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Speaker 3: It's Thursday night.
Speaker 2: We must be at the Roundtable show Long Next in
Speaker 2: Wilder two hours to unfold between now at eight Lance
Speaker 2: McAllister Rocky Boyman. For the record, we did not confer before.
Speaker 2: Both wearing our Georgia state hats. Tonight, Georgia, Southern Georgia, Southern.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Georgia Southern.
Speaker 4: You know, if you make that mistake on air, you
Speaker 4: will get hate mail from Georgia.
Speaker 2: Our Georgia Southern hats. Yes that you got me very
Speaker 2: d again. Yeah, where we're We're doubling up on them
Speaker 2: tonight Rock Sunday. I felt good at what they marched
Speaker 2: down the field on their opening drive, and then they
Speaker 2: do it on their second drive and their third drive,
Speaker 2: and they have touchdowns on the first three drives and
Speaker 2: they led. When they led twenty eight to eighteen, when
Speaker 2: Joe found Mike Aziki in the back of the end zone,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking they are actually going to pull this off.
Speaker 2: And even even after twenty one answered by the Bills,
Speaker 2: when they got Josh Allen and the Bills to third
Speaker 2: and fifteen, I'm thinking they're going to get a stop
Speaker 2: here and Joe Burrow is going to win this game
Speaker 2: in the snow, and it will be odd and then
Speaker 2: it will off.
Speaker 4: It was off, and the defense kind of crept back
Speaker 4: up as the detriment of this team. Obviously Burrow throwing
Speaker 4: the interceptions was a big one, but I think the
Speaker 4: big story the defense. We want to believe it's getting better.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's better, but it's not where it needs to be.
Speaker 2: They just have a way of doing one thing. Whether
Speaker 2: it's Miles Murphy taking it inside rush and leaving the outside,
Speaker 2: or it's a hands to the face penalty by DA's Hill,
Speaker 2: or it's just Barrett Carter taking a wrong step a
Speaker 2: bad angle.
Speaker 3: They just have a way.
Speaker 2: They'll do something as you said, you think all right,
Speaker 2: and then they'll do something.
Speaker 3: You say, you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as we always or I always talk about,
Speaker 4: they just don't have the explosiveness to make up. You're
Speaker 4: gonna have hands with the face penalties. You're gonna have
Speaker 4: a guy out of his lane. But you need some
Speaker 4: of those guys that just close the door, just shut
Speaker 4: the door right there, and they don't have them.
Speaker 2: Now, I will say this, I have a scenario for
Speaker 2: you Rock. Are you ready for the scenario? If there's
Speaker 2: a lot of ink on that pay, Yes, the Bengals
Speaker 2: went out.
Speaker 3: This isn't far fetched, is it?
Speaker 2: If the Bengals went out and the Steelers have to
Speaker 2: lose three of their last four and the Ravens have
Speaker 2: to lose two of their last four, that's not impossible.
Speaker 4: That's not impossible.
Speaker 2: But here's some context to that we're saying the Bengals
Speaker 2: have to win out, so they have to win four
Speaker 2: games in four tries. So far they've won four games
Speaker 2: in thirteen tries, so we sensed the problem. Yes, it's
Speaker 2: one thing to say just went out well. That would
Speaker 2: require matching their win total to this point in the
Speaker 2: entire season, So we shall see. Can I do some
Speaker 2: headlines so we can go yes, far away? All right,
Speaker 2: let's start. Bengals go to work. We're back at work
Speaker 2: today on the Ravens and for Sunday's matchup at pay
Speaker 2: Cort T. Higgins, still in concussion protocol, was limited at practice.
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart was a full go. More from Trags coming
Speaker 2: up in a couple of minutes. Bengals plays Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 2: on the reserve injured list with a hip pelvis injury.
Speaker 2: He had played seven games this season. Steelers pass rusher TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt is in a Pittsburgh hospital for lung evaluation after
Speaker 2: experiencing discomforted practice yesterday.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: His status for Monday's game against the Dolphins. Getting all
Speaker 2: choked up is in question. Four Bearcats earned All Big
Speaker 2: twelve honors from the Associated Press. Linebacker Jake Goldey offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: Evan ten Guestahl and were placed on the first team,
Speaker 2: while Joe Cotton offensive lineman and Dante Corleone defensive lineman
Speaker 2: both received spots on the second team. Former Michigan football
Speaker 2: coach Arn Moore, who remains in custody as a suspect
Speaker 2: and an alleged assault. He's expected to appear in court
Speaker 2: for a raiment on Friday, fired yesterday after an internal
Speaker 2: investigation revealed an improper relationship with a staff member.
Speaker 3: He was taken into custody last night.
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football Falcons at the Buccaneers eight fifteen on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The NFL, by the way, is
Speaker 2: shortening the time between draft picks in the first round.
Speaker 2: Teams will now have eight minutes instead of ten minutes.
Speaker 2: College basketball, he gets back in action Saturday night or
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon in Atlanta at State Farm Arena. They take
Speaker 2: on Georgia in the Holiday Hoops Giving Talk Bearcats tonight
Speaker 2: after us on The West Miller Show. Baseball single game
Speaker 2: tickets red spring training home games go on sale tomorrow
Speaker 2: at noon. Reds dot Com Slash Spring twenty twenty six
Speaker 2: Cactus League play begins on Saturday, February twenty first versus
Speaker 2: the Guardians at Goodyear Ballpark. They are scheduled to play
Speaker 2: seventeen games at Goodyear Ballpark, including a World Baseball Classic
Speaker 2: exhibition versus Cuba, and two games as the visiting team
Speaker 2: against the Guardians. The Braves bolstered their bullpend today they
Speaker 2: signed Podrey's National Lakes save leader Robert Swarez to a
Speaker 2: three year forty five million dollar deal, Atlanta Ink to
Speaker 2: icell Igalacias to a one year, sixteen million dollar deal.
Speaker 2: About two weeks ago, at FC Cincinnati, assistant Dominic Kinnear
Speaker 2: has departed the club after four seasons.
Speaker 3: Those are your headlines, all right?
Speaker 2: We have the following tonight, the the cast of usual
Speaker 2: cast of characters minus Greg. Unfortunately, the high school football
Speaker 2: season is over, but we'll talk with Trags Mike Petralia
Speaker 2: from c l NS Media at six twenty. We'll talk
Speaker 2: with Chad Brendle at seven o six. On the Bearcats front,
Speaker 2: we'll talk with Dan Klaskins at seven fifty. We got
Speaker 2: into you gotta get into what Joe Burrow said. You'll
Speaker 2: hear a little bit of it. We'll react to it.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the release of Jermaine Burton, We'll talk
Speaker 2: about Rocky playing against perhaps Sunday starting quarterback for the
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, and preview the Baltimore Ravens. All of that
Speaker 2: is ahead. He's Rocky on Lance. We're at Long Necks
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Speaker 3: Lives Close to Home. Who will you say?
Speaker 2: Let's turn to our feature guest every week at this time,
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Speaker 2: Host of the wildly popular Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube.
Speaker 3: That would be Mike Petralia.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm doing well, Lanced Rocky. Been kind of an eventful
Speaker 5: week at pay Corpse stadium with regard to a certain quarterback.
Speaker 5: Lots of speculation out there about what was said, what
Speaker 5: he meant to say, and I'm sure we're going to
Speaker 5: get into that, but it's never a dull moment when
Speaker 5: you're on the Bengals feet, that is for sure.
Speaker 2: No doubt, and a perfect segue to the obvious first question.
Speaker 2: You were in the room yesterday, in the moment, you
Speaker 2: ask a great follow up question to Joe and just
Speaker 2: kind of as you pay time to process and think
Speaker 2: about it over the last twenty four hours, what did
Speaker 2: you make of Joe Burrow's reflections on life and career yesterday?
Speaker 5: Well, it's always dangerous business in our industry lands to
Speaker 5: read body language and then draw a conclusion based on
Speaker 5: that body language. But certainly there was something on Joe's mind,
Speaker 5: and my question was right to the point, was it
Speaker 5: football related?
Speaker 6: Was it personal? And he said all of the above.
Speaker 5: Well to me, if it was just purely personal, I
Speaker 5: think he would have led on to that. I don't
Speaker 5: think he was playing forty chess in terms of trying
Speaker 5: to disguise something in his personal life by saying it
Speaker 5: was both football and personal. I think he was legitimately
Speaker 5: he had some things on his mind that were struggling.
Speaker 5: I think is a fair word. He was very much
Speaker 5: not himself. He was very distracted when he entered that
Speaker 5: room yesterday, and it became apparent, you know, he kind
Speaker 5: of gage short, very truncated answers to the questions that
Speaker 5: were being asked, and then eventually it just got to
Speaker 5: the point where I was wondering, Okay, is this football related?
Speaker 5: Is it personal? And when he said that, I think
Speaker 5: there was a point a madness, a method to his madness,
Speaker 5: I should say. And I don't think Joe ever answers
Speaker 5: anything by accident. I always think there's a purpose to
Speaker 5: his answers. And I think he's been very bothered by
Speaker 5: this season from a professional level, certainly with the team
Speaker 5: being four and nine, him doing everything in his power
Speaker 5: to get back and play, and you know, they win
Speaker 5: their first game back with him at the helm. Maybe
Speaker 5: he should have played against the Patriots, maybe not, And
Speaker 5: then they blow the game last week against Buffalo, and
Speaker 5: you know, barring a miracle, Burrow is going to miss
Speaker 5: the playoffs for a third straight year. But he also
Speaker 5: brought up the fact that he's been through so much
Speaker 5: more so than other quarterbacks in the NFL, and he's
Speaker 5: been through so much and he still wants to play.
Speaker 5: And that's something that Jamar Chase pointed out today in
Speaker 5: his gathering with the media.
Speaker 6: And you know, Jamarrow was giving.
Speaker 5: It to us, saying, you guys are always trying to
Speaker 5: create some type of narrative, always trying to stir the pot.
Speaker 5: And we came back at Jamar saying, no, we just
Speaker 5: want to know if you have any perspective that could
Speaker 5: clarify the matter. And he told us today, all I
Speaker 5: can tell you is Joe Burrows still loves football. He
Speaker 5: still loves preparing, He loves the whole act of coming
Speaker 5: in to the building and getting ready to play the game.
Speaker 6: This coming Sunday.
Speaker 5: So that was the perspective from Jamar Chase today and
Speaker 5: I think it was good perspective.
Speaker 6: In the end. I don't think Joe Burrow's trying to
Speaker 6: shoot himself out of town. I would never go that far.
Speaker 6: I think he was just having a rough day and
Speaker 6: there was a lot on his mind.
Speaker 4: So let's dive into that further. You know, Joe is
Speaker 4: I think very good with his power of persuasion. Right
Speaker 4: when he uses the microphone to kind of get things
Speaker 4: that he wants. So did you see it more as hey,
Speaker 4: this is a guy that's really kind of down on
Speaker 4: his luck and everything. Or was he using this, as
Speaker 4: you know, kind of as a message to the front office, like, hey,
Speaker 4: man like you, we got to do something to build
Speaker 4: this franchise back here or else kind of deal.
Speaker 6: I would say the latter, Rocky.
Speaker 5: He certainly did it last year with Sea and Jamar,
Speaker 5: more so with t because I think the Jamar stuff
Speaker 5: was the FATA complay that had to be done.
Speaker 6: But I think when he.
Speaker 5: Brought Tea into the mix and said, we really need
Speaker 5: both of these guys back if the offense is going
Speaker 5: to be or what I think it can be and
Speaker 5: what I think we all know it can be.
Speaker 6: So he's done it before.
Speaker 5: I do think there's some credibility to what you're suggesting, Rocky, that.
Speaker 6: He may have been laying a very.
Speaker 5: Subtle message, a very subtle groundwork in terms of I'm
Speaker 5: not happy.
Speaker 6: I think you can read it in my body language.
Speaker 5: We have got to get our act together, cleaning it
Speaker 5: up a little bit there. Got to get our act
Speaker 5: together and make sure that this doesn't happen next year.
Speaker 5: I would love to ask, and he's never going He's
Speaker 5: going to say. If I asked the question, what kind
Speaker 5: of changes do you want to see happen, He's going
Speaker 5: to say.
Speaker 6: My job is to play football.
Speaker 5: I lead the football decisions to the football people. That's
Speaker 5: what he said last year, and I don't think there's
Speaker 5: any reason he would change that messaging publicly.
Speaker 6: But behind closed doors, I'm sure he is.
Speaker 5: You know, either has or will let Katie, Troy, Mike
Speaker 5: and certainly Duke all know where what he feels about
Speaker 5: the current situation.
Speaker 2: Traig's also believe it was you that asked him about
Speaker 2: keeping his finger on the pulse of the energy in
Speaker 2: the locker room now at four and nine. Do you
Speaker 2: sense any wavering this week now at four and nine,
Speaker 2: with the decks so stacked against this team.
Speaker 6: I don't, And that's a great question.
Speaker 4: Lance.
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes again with the body language and the
Speaker 5: atmosphere when you read it in the locker room and
Speaker 5: the players are listening to music and relaxing, and you know,
Speaker 5: people aren't really quiet and somber. You could take that.
Speaker 5: If you're from the outside, you could take that as well.
Speaker 5: These guys don't take their job seriously. They're not upset
Speaker 5: like the fans are upset. But then you take a
Speaker 5: step back and you realize, and Rocky, I'm sure you
Speaker 5: can speak to this. It's their job, and you can't
Speaker 5: be serious twenty four hours a day. You can't be
Speaker 5: upset twenty four hours a day. You waste too much
Speaker 5: and you expend too much energy being upset. So you
Speaker 5: do your job to the best of your ability.
Speaker 6: In the morning, you go out, you have a good practice,
Speaker 6: could walk through.
Speaker 5: Whatever, and then you come back in the locker room
Speaker 5: and unwind for half an hour.
Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5: But what Joe Burrow told me yesterday was the fact
Speaker 5: that he likes the energy. He likes the way everybody
Speaker 5: is working hard to get better, and I think that's significant.
Speaker 5: I think the fact that Joe Burrow made a point
Speaker 5: of saying that the energy in the locker room is
Speaker 5: in a good place is indicative of what he feels about,
Speaker 5: at least the mental approach to the players there at
Speaker 5: the talent level, and perhaps the positions they are being
Speaker 5: put in during a game. Maybe that's a different matter
Speaker 5: and subject altogether.
Speaker 4: Try I'm not sure if he has been officially ruled
Speaker 4: out or not, but he's been in a concussion protocol.
Speaker 4: What's and now you know, no Jermaine Burton. Not that
Speaker 4: that's a big deal when it comes to that, but
Speaker 4: any word on how his role is going to be
Speaker 4: filled what other players may be more in the mix
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 5: So he was again limited today, Rocky, and that means
Speaker 5: he's pretty much in the same spot he was last week.
Speaker 5: If he can get if he can clear protocol by
Speaker 5: the time you know, tomorrow ends and he goes through
Speaker 5: the Friday practice at full participation, he could be cleared
Speaker 5: in theory to go on Sunday. And I think there's
Speaker 5: a misperception that the team has a lot to do
Speaker 5: with this. I don't think they do. It's more a
Speaker 5: medical decision. And if the player feels ready to go
Speaker 5: and and he has been cleared medically to go, meaning
Speaker 5: he is non symptomatic, then it's up to the.
Speaker 6: Player to play. And if he wants to play, he'll play.
Speaker 5: And you know, some people may think that's reckless for
Speaker 5: the team.
Speaker 6: To let him go out and play, but again, if the.
Speaker 5: Player feels like he is asymptomatic and feels fine to play,
Speaker 5: then he's going to play I do. I am sympathetic
Speaker 5: to those who believe that this guy's come off one
Speaker 5: concussion and symptoms of a second, and there is a
Speaker 5: fine life.
Speaker 6: There is some.
Speaker 5: You know, medical innuendo there in discernment to be taken
Speaker 5: into consideration the difference between the two. But he had
Speaker 5: one concussion and he had symptoms of a second. And
Speaker 5: if you know, the team is cautious, maybe they hold
Speaker 5: him out. But again, I think the final decision is
Speaker 5: up to T Higgins.
Speaker 2: Trags, you were all over all of this for more,
Speaker 2: tell listeners how they can read, watch and follow.
Speaker 6: All right, telling us Simpson with a Y dot Com.
Speaker 5: I'm going to have a column up for tonight's Flash
Speaker 5: tomorrow morning regarding what Jamar Chase said today and taking
Speaker 5: twenty four hours to kind of digest, like we said
Speaker 5: at the top of the conversation about what Joe Burrow
Speaker 5: said on One today. That column will be up on
Speaker 5: Stealing Us since with a Y dot Com. We'll also
Speaker 5: have the preview up for this weekend's Ravens Bengals game.
Speaker 5: You can follow all of my content on the act,
Speaker 5: including locker room interviews, at Trags. T rgs and of
Speaker 5: course the Jungle War Bengals.
Speaker 6: Podcast page that is at YouTube dot com slash Jungle
Speaker 6: War Pod.
Speaker 2: Love it, Thank you trags. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 6: All right, gentlemen, take care we'traw.
Speaker 2: You trags all over it on the Bengals beat. We'll
Speaker 2: take a time. I'll get a check on news still ahead.
Speaker 2: You'll hear a little bit of what Joe said yesterday
Speaker 2: and then we'll react to it.
Speaker 3: That is next.
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Speaker 2: our left, Joe Waddell back in the studio. Fran and
Speaker 2: lovely wife Phyllis are here. Franz decked out in a
Speaker 2: long neck shirt. He'll be serving a little bit later on,
Speaker 2: just to be making his way around and delivering drinks.
Speaker 2: And look at that Phyllis is on the phone. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm paying attention to this all the time. Ultimate just wow,
Speaker 2: she's a mover and shaker. She's she's just got people
Speaker 2: to talk to. I agree. Yesterday, the much discussed Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Let's listen to about a minute and ten seconds of
Speaker 2: what he said, and then let's react to what he said.
Speaker 2: So I like a play. Here's Joe Burrow yesterday.
Speaker 7: I want to keep doing this. I have to have
Speaker 7: fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
Speaker 7: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing
Speaker 7: it for? So mindset, I'm trying to bring to the
Speaker 7: table how much right now?
Speaker 4: So all to have fun?
Speaker 2: And then the season would've been through, physically, emotionally, all
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 6: And certainly did you.
Speaker 4: Have fun playing with you? I mean, how much of
Speaker 4: it was fun?
Speaker 2: Before?
Speaker 6: Wins?
Speaker 4: Always fun?
Speaker 2: But in general, was it was fun before you got hurt?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say you did it that way?
Speaker 4: I think I'm not sure.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure there was a singular moment or of time.
Speaker 7: It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things
Speaker 7: that I've done and been.
Speaker 9: Through in my career.
Speaker 7: I think I've been through more than most and certainly
Speaker 7: not easy on the the brain or the body. So
Speaker 7: it's trying to have fun doing.
Speaker 2: Anything you've seen like the something on the line. And
Speaker 2: maybe I'm written too much into it, but it seems frustrated.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of things going on right now. A
Speaker 7: lot of things going on right now, all related personally,
Speaker 7: all the above.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow yesterday.
Speaker 2: It's led to a great deal of speculation and conversation.
Speaker 2: I think the easy knee jerk default is to tie
Speaker 2: him now to either Carson Palmer or Andrew Lucky. That's
Speaker 2: that's the very easy thing to do. I just I
Speaker 2: would say this, he was clearly yesterday on his twenty
Speaker 2: ninth birthday, he was clearly taking inventory of his life
Speaker 2: and mentally and physically how he feels on his twenty
Speaker 2: ninth birthday. And there's a lot going on with Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow right now. I'm not going to make it more
Speaker 2: than that. I'm not going to make it less than that,
Speaker 2: But clearly it was a day of reflection for Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow about a lot of important stuff in his life.
Speaker 4: We all do it, right, especially when things are kind
Speaker 4: of down. We reassess and where am I, Why am
Speaker 4: I feeling this way? What do I have to do
Speaker 4: to make it better? And like you said, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of things going on, you know, the you know,
Speaker 4: the injuries the last couple of years. You know, third
Speaker 4: straight year Bengals probably aren't going to playoff twenty ninth birthday, right,
Speaker 4: You always kind of reassess things as you're approaching thirty,
Speaker 4: like any human does. And I think the biggest thing
Speaker 4: is just the fact that you know, it's tough to
Speaker 4: play this game when you're not healthy, and he hasn't
Speaker 4: been healthy for a full year in a long time, right,
Speaker 4: and and it's mentally draining and physically draining in and
Speaker 4: of itself. And then you got the losing season, and
Speaker 4: when you're doing all that, and you're also getting up
Speaker 4: in five thirty and going to rehab and you're playing
Speaker 4: with some kind of weird thing in your shoe and
Speaker 4: it doesn't quite feel right that that that is. It's
Speaker 4: tough day and day, and.
Speaker 2: You you make it all the way back with the
Speaker 2: expectation I'm going to you know, elevate us and maybe
Speaker 2: save the season, and you win the first game, and
Speaker 2: then they were winning on Sunday and then they weren't
Speaker 2: and he threw two interceptions. Yeah, you pile there's all that,
Speaker 2: all those chips into the middle, and you understand why
Speaker 2: it was. It was a heavy sounding at times, almost
Speaker 2: maybe a dark conversation yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and again I think it's it's completely honest
Speaker 4: for him to go through that. Yeah. I don't think
Speaker 4: he's sounding the alarms that he wants to leave. I
Speaker 4: do think he's been a little bit calculating in it,
Speaker 4: and by sharing that in a way telling the front office, hey, look,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm twenty nine. Soon he'll be thirty. Yep.
Speaker 4: Thirty is kind of the line of hey, you're no
Speaker 4: longer a young player. And I think he also is seen.
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing lance to add to all
Speaker 4: that is he's looking forward to what's coming next year
Speaker 4: and he's not seeing some radical shift, some great amount
Speaker 4: of change where this defense in particular is going to
Speaker 4: get a lot better.
Speaker 2: I think he's it'd be one thing if this season
Speaker 2: was if we say, for all practical purposes, they've been eliminated.
Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if he could look in the
Speaker 2: look down the road and see, well, next season we
Speaker 2: will be back to where we.
Speaker 4: Need to be.
Speaker 2: I think he's looking saying, well, crap, I'm already worried
Speaker 2: about next season to a large extent.
Speaker 4: Well, you act like that when you like you don't
Speaker 4: have any hope. And if he were looking at this
Speaker 4: and this was a say it was a defense where
Speaker 4: three impact players were hurt and they're you know, season
Speaker 4: ending injuries, but boy don't be back, and that gives
Speaker 4: you hope when there's something good coming down the line,
Speaker 4: I think he's saying, look at I don't see this
Speaker 4: defense getting any better in one cycle.
Speaker 2: Now I want to bring something up, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: preface this by saying, because you know how I feel.
Speaker 2: People Sometimes people they don't want to they don't want
Speaker 2: to read, or they don't want to.
Speaker 3: Listen, and they just want to.
Speaker 2: They just want to. I've now adjusted to people are
Speaker 2: so quick to want to say something more than they
Speaker 2: want to listen or learn something.
Speaker 3: They just want to say something.
Speaker 2: It isn't So I'm gonna I'm gonna stress that when
Speaker 2: I say this, I was curious after what Joe said yesterday,
Speaker 2: because to me, there were words that kind of caught
Speaker 2: my ear and I went back today. I'm treading very
Speaker 2: lightly here. I know where you're going. I listened to
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck's press conference when he retired.
Speaker 3: He was twenty nine years old.
Speaker 2: It was August of twenty six team, and I circled
Speaker 2: some phrasing he used. And I'm not tying Joe to
Speaker 2: a decision like this. I'm just saying I was struck
Speaker 2: by how Joe reflected on his life yesterday is very
Speaker 2: similar to how Andrew Luck was reflecting on his the
Speaker 2: day he made the announcement what he said quote. For
Speaker 2: the last four years or so, I've been in this
Speaker 2: cycle of injury pain rehab, injury pain rehab, and it's
Speaker 2: been unceasing, unrelenting, both in season and off season, and
Speaker 2: I felt stuck in it. The only way I see
Speaker 2: out is to no longer play football. I'm in pain,
Speaker 2: I'm still in pain. It's taken the joy out of
Speaker 2: the game. And after twenty sixteen, I made about of
Speaker 2: myself that I would not go down that path again.
Speaker 2: I've come to the proverbial fork in the road, and
Speaker 2: I made about of myself that if I ever did
Speaker 2: it again, I'd choose me. In a sense, part of
Speaker 2: my journey going forward will be figuring out how to
Speaker 2: feel better. Those are some pretty powerful words from Andrew
Speaker 2: Lucky in all that he was considering with his life,
Speaker 2: and and it's why I wanted to I just wanted
Speaker 2: to see where he was coming from and what words
Speaker 2: he was using. And I don't use this to sound alarms,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of reflection he was doing that
Speaker 2: I heard Joe Burrow doing yesterday.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's similar to that.
Speaker 2: The rehab, the pain, the discycle.
Speaker 4: A lot of the same things. But I think also
Speaker 4: at that point, Angela didn't have hope. He didn't have
Speaker 4: hope the offensive line was ever going to be fixed
Speaker 4: because he had seven eight years. Great boy never seemed
Speaker 4: to happen, yep. So he was at his wits end.
Speaker 4: And I think while Burrow may not be there, I
Speaker 4: think there's the danger that this keeps up a little,
Speaker 4: you know, just a little bit longer. He could go
Speaker 4: to that place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, you we talked about it before,
Speaker 2: and you've rehabbed injuries. I just I can't imagine the
Speaker 2: mental drake. Forget about the physical drain, the mental drain
Speaker 2: of having to rehab returning injury, rehab returning injury, and
Speaker 2: just feel like like you're on the the the hamster wheel,
Speaker 2: and it never it never changed.
Speaker 4: To A much smaller example would be like for you
Speaker 4: if every before every show, like you woke up in
Speaker 4: the morning you couldn't speak right, you had, you had
Speaker 4: no voice, but you had you took the cough drops
Speaker 4: and you took the t's and by the time six
Speaker 4: o'clock roll around you could go out there and do it.
Speaker 4: And you was scratching and hurt a lot, but you
Speaker 4: got through it. And I knew the next morning I'd
Speaker 4: have to do the exact same damn thing over and
Speaker 4: over and over and over and over. That's that's very taxing,
Speaker 4: not just physically but mentally. It's mentally draining and wearing
Speaker 4: on a player. And that's what's happening with him, no doubt.
Speaker 2: And it's time for our standing ovation for last week.
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Speaker 2: Mike Gasicki, who was very productive on Sunday six targets
Speaker 2: six catches eighty seven yards at a touchdown, showed the
Speaker 2: impact he can have on this offense and why they
Speaker 2: sorely missed him during that stretch when he was dealing
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Speaker 2: It was the twelfth place, seventy five yard drive Burrow
Speaker 2: to Kasiki had made it twenty eight to eighteen with
Speaker 2: about eight and a half minutes to go. If we
Speaker 2: could just stop the game there, because the Bills then
Speaker 2: scored the next twenty one points still ahead, let's talk
Speaker 2: at Jermaine Burton. I want you to hear also what
Speaker 2: Zach said about Trey hendrickson, which I guess we'll we'll
Speaker 2: give us a little insight into their relationship that as
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Speaker 2: today's students become tomorrow's leaders. Visit Miami Oh Dot e
Speaker 2: du By the way, while I'm thinking about a shout
Speaker 2: out to Miami University Miami football, they were very kind
Speaker 2: to send me a replica jersey from their Cradle of
Speaker 2: Coaches game, especially going on to a jersey those are sharp.
Speaker 2: I put mine on today. I went up into Casey's
Speaker 2: room and I found the Miami Redhawk's helmet that Terry
Speaker 2: Heppner was so kind to give Casey what he was
Speaker 2: in the hospital years ago. It sits up on a
Speaker 2: on a shelf, so Rockeye. I put that jersey on,
Speaker 2: and then I said, well, let me put that helmet on.
Speaker 2: I saw it, and then I may have taken a picture,
Speaker 2: and then I may well. First of all, I sent
Speaker 2: it to my family and their reaction was sheer horror.
Speaker 2: I think Peyton said whah, with about twelve whys following
Speaker 2: Casey's response was terrifying, and I think Kelly's response was,
Speaker 2: make sure you're not wearing that when I come home.
Speaker 4: What's funny because you wore the jersey but I got
Speaker 4: one too, But Kelly is gonna have it on when
Speaker 4: I get.
Speaker 2: I'll see you are You're not right? You are not right.
Speaker 2: You should You should have seen me walking around the house.
Speaker 2: I'm the only one in the house wearing that helmet
Speaker 2: and the jersey hit. I'm trying to figure out where
Speaker 2: I could take a picture. I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: the lighting for the picture. And I finally opened up
Speaker 2: the front door and had the snow background.
Speaker 4: I was like football now, telling me you had the
Speaker 4: helmet on, you're all in the house, did you, like,
Speaker 4: you know, bash the helmet in like a wall or two?
Speaker 2: Just grunted, Yeah, I grunted, and then I really Then
Speaker 2: I thought, as always do I don't know how. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you guys wear helmets. They're just so
Speaker 2: damn one. They're so tight and they're so heavy, and
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: How do you run around with those things?
Speaker 4: A man? Oh man?
Speaker 2: But thank you to Miami University and here you.
Speaker 4: Want to let me see you hold hold on here,
Speaker 4: let me no, you tagged me.
Speaker 2: I saw no, but there was a there was a here.
Speaker 3: This is the one that may have scared my family.
Speaker 3: Let's see, there's the one that scared my Fanily.
Speaker 2: God, I may be grunting and uh it may be
Speaker 2: like my Dick buck kiss look.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous. Thank you Miami University.
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Speaker 2: into Jermaine Burton quickly, just because I got a kick
Speaker 2: out of this. This is yesterday, and Trey Hendrickson has
Speaker 2: had surgery, He's on injured reserve, He's probably played his
Speaker 2: final snap. There was a question asked yesterday about to
Speaker 2: Zach about his reaction to Trey's surgery and probably being
Speaker 2: done for the season, and I'm thinking, all right, Zach's
Speaker 2: gonna say, yeah, it's a tough blow.
Speaker 3: It's been a tough.
Speaker 2: Season, and we miss his abilities late in games, and
Speaker 2: there was a hope he could get back in and
Speaker 2: help us, and we certainly missed that element of the game.
Speaker 2: Listen to the question and what Zach said in response
Speaker 2: to it. How disappointing wasn't it to find out about
Speaker 2: Hendrickson and not potentially being able to happen for the
Speaker 2: rest of the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing new, brilliant, Mean, that's that's been the last
Speaker 4: few weeks.
Speaker 3: That was it? Nothing new?
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, He's a big piece of our defense and
Speaker 2: we miss it.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed to be very frustrated with uh, Trey Henderson.
Speaker 4: If you ever thought there was a glimmer hope that
Speaker 4: Trey Henderson might be back next year, it is absolutely gone.
Speaker 3: It is gone now. Jermaine Burton.
Speaker 2: I think it is the most often as question why
Speaker 2: did they keep him around as long as they did?
Speaker 2: And I heard you talking with Tommy Is as part
Speaker 2: of the Thursday segment you do in on UH or
Speaker 2: in the mornings once a week, and I do one
Speaker 2: once a week, and and I thought you hit on
Speaker 2: a great point. It's one thing when somebody is so
Speaker 2: gifted when they're younger and on athletic ability are better
Speaker 2: than everybody else. But there comes a time you got
Speaker 2: to be a pro. You got to have the work ethic,
Speaker 2: have a lot, and it just never just never was
Speaker 2: there or showed itself for Jermaine Burton, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You just wonder did he during his youth in high
Speaker 4: school and college career. You know, he likely, like a
Speaker 4: lot of NFL players, was the best player, right and
Speaker 4: was always the fastest and the and the number one
Speaker 4: guy on the team. And and so he wondered did
Speaker 4: he ever have to really work at the craft? You know,
Speaker 4: did he have to learn the ins and outs of
Speaker 4: the of the wide receiver, the route tree or was
Speaker 4: he just always good enough to just win in spite
Speaker 4: of And I've just I've seen, you know, some athletes
Speaker 4: where they're great at Lettism is a great blessing, but
Speaker 4: the biggest curse. I think that was true of Cam
Speaker 4: Newton to some degree, Like he was so physically gifted
Speaker 4: and he was a good quarterback, but never I don't
Speaker 4: think the potential that he could have been because his
Speaker 4: whole life he was just so good. The mental side
Speaker 4: of it he didn't have to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I and think about it.
Speaker 2: You get drafted out of Alabama the eightieth overall, and
Speaker 2: you get to go to an organization with Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase and T Higgins to learn from in
Speaker 2: the same room, and you blow.
Speaker 4: It, blow it. I mean his golden opportunity. T Higgins
Speaker 4: is out this year. They need somebody to step up,
Speaker 4: and he's he's just just not not there. I just
Speaker 4: he also just wonder I always separated guys that didn't
Speaker 4: seem to make it in the NFL. Where did you
Speaker 4: love football? Or do you love what football brought you?
Speaker 4: And I just never it never felt to me that
Speaker 4: Jermaine Burn was a guy just loved football. Because if
Speaker 4: you love the game, you study the game and you
Speaker 4: do what you can to get better in the game,
Speaker 4: not because you know it'll give you money, just because
Speaker 4: damn it, that's what I want to do and I'm
Speaker 4: interested in it so much. Just never seemed like very
Speaker 4: I mean again, talk about I mean, how many people,
Speaker 4: how many wide receivers, great wide receivers would cut off
Speaker 4: their pinky yep to be placed in that situation, like
Speaker 4: you said with Joe Burrow in this town, with Jamar
Speaker 4: Chase and t Higgins right there, couldn't take advantage. It's
Speaker 4: very sad.
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Speaker 2: in Wilder, our destination the remainder of this Bengal season
Speaker 2: and into their playoff run. After they win four straight,
Speaker 2: the Ravens lose two of four and the Steelers lose three.
Speaker 4: Of four, then we have to tie in there or
Speaker 4: not they.
Speaker 2: Win all tie breakers. Let's talk Bearcats. Next up the
Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl versus Navy in Memphis, Friday, January the second.
Speaker 2: Let's do that with the man from Bearcat Journal Bearcat
Speaker 2: Journal dot com, Chad Brendle. How are you.
Speaker 10: Time?
Speaker 11: You guys are live from the dispensary tonight.
Speaker 2: Yes, working on scenarios of minuscule opportunities.
Speaker 3: You would be the perfect.
Speaker 2: Person to ask this question because in the last week,
Speaker 2: let's see Bearcat assistant GM Carter Wilson is headed to
Speaker 2: USF according to reports today. The report is a staffer
Speaker 2: is headed to Penn State to be an assistant GM
Speaker 2: Jack Griffith. You as well as anybody, knows the inner
Speaker 2: workings and the importance of a front office structure now
Speaker 2: in college athletics. How significant are these departures for UC football?
Speaker 11: Incredibly significant?
Speaker 10: But I mean Carter Wilson was in charge of high
Speaker 10: school scouting recruiting. He's the guy that you know, essentially
Speaker 10: put together the recruiting board for high school recruits, and
Speaker 10: Jack Griffith put together the board for the transfer portal.
Speaker 10: So you've still got the head of the Snake and
Speaker 10: Zach Grant at GM, but his two top lieutenants are
Speaker 10: are now headed elsewhere.
Speaker 11: So that you know, the Carter.
Speaker 10: Wilson one, it hurts, but you just finished your signing class,
Speaker 10: so you know you've got time to replace that specific position.
Speaker 10: But with Zack Griffith, that's you know, the portal opens
Speaker 10: the second and he's been working on that, you know,
Speaker 10: diligently since the portal closed last year.
Speaker 11: And to lose him, you know, basically on the.
Speaker 6: Eve of the transfer portal.
Speaker 10: That's a significant pole to fill and Zak Grant's gonna
Speaker 10: have to go find somebody that is equally as adapt
Speaker 10: at mining the transfer portal. I mean, we had a
Speaker 10: story about it that we talked about on this show
Speaker 10: about a month ago, where you know, eighteen of the
Speaker 10: twenty one guys they brought in and the transfer portal
Speaker 10: populated the too deep and you know also Jake Golden,
Speaker 10: Brendan Soresby, and you know guys, guys that were a
Speaker 10: big part of this team were part of that transfer
Speaker 10: portal process from from Jack and that's a that's a
Speaker 10: big hole to fill with the transfer portal about the opens.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Chad, I have the Liberty Bawl
Speaker 4: on radio, so I'll be calling you in the next
Speaker 4: week or so to get all your information. Anyway, right, No,
Speaker 4: so the same question, but now let's talk to the
Speaker 4: talk about the players. Who is in danger of entering
Speaker 4: the portal. I guess let's start with with Soresby. Is
Speaker 4: a guy that you think is going to stay or
Speaker 4: is he out or what do you think?
Speaker 10: And I don't think he's made a decision yet, but
Speaker 10: he's going to be a very popular name if he
Speaker 10: does there.
Speaker 11: Or the transfer portal.
Speaker 10: I've heard ballpark numbers and you're talking millions at a
Speaker 10: new destination if he chooses to go that route. So
Speaker 10: with Cincinnati's financials, I don't know that you know, they
Speaker 10: can get all the way up in that ballpark of
Speaker 10: what he's going to be looking at. So it's definitely
Speaker 10: something that you have to keep an eye on because
Speaker 10: you know, if I had to bet you get one
Speaker 10: last shot at this to go make a whole bunch
Speaker 10: of money, it's going to be really difficult for Cincinnati
Speaker 10: to keep him. And you know, they haven't made any
Speaker 10: announcements on whether he's going to be at the ball
Speaker 10: game or not, but I kind of would be surprised
Speaker 10: if he played way things are, you know, where things
Speaker 10: stand at the moment.
Speaker 2: Well, and that was gonna be the follow up chatter,
Speaker 2: are they proceeding, How are they proceeding in terms of
Speaker 2: expectations of from Sorsby to Corleone to Royer to gold
Speaker 2: Ay even playing in the Bowl game.
Speaker 10: Well, Corleone and Goldey were both pretty beat up by
Speaker 10: the end of the season.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 10: I think that announcement everybody, you know, why did why
Speaker 10: did Dante Corleon announce he was going to the draft
Speaker 10: when he was out of eligibility.
Speaker 11: I had to guess that was, you know, I'm not
Speaker 11: going to be in Memphis, so I wouldn't expect to
Speaker 11: see him.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't.
Speaker 10: I'd be surprised to see golda although gold as kind
Speaker 10: of a kind of a machine, it wouldn't shock me
Speaker 10: if he wanted to play. But uh, we haven't had
Speaker 10: a practice availability yet, so I don't know exactly what
Speaker 10: that's going to look like. But you know, you just
Speaker 10: lost Christian Harrison, who was one of your best defensive back.
Speaker 11: To the transfer portal. I wouldn't expect to see him play.
Speaker 10: And ultimately, I mean, you know this as well as
Speaker 10: I do, Rocky in this day and age, the last
Speaker 10: thing you want to see as your bowl game opponent
Speaker 10: is a service academy.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, this is not exactly
Speaker 2: an ideal matchup, is it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 11: Because they're not going to have opt outs like those guys.
Speaker 11: You know you can leave.
Speaker 10: I guess you can leave enter the transfer portal your
Speaker 10: freshman and sophomore year, but once you hit your junior year,
Speaker 10: like you're locked in. You can't transfer out of the
Speaker 10: military academies, so they don't have to worry.
Speaker 11: Really about the transfer portal with their roster.
Speaker 10: They don't have to worry about whether guys are going
Speaker 10: to be locked in for this. So in terms of
Speaker 10: kind of worst case scenario of an opponent in today's
Speaker 10: day and age, but you really don't want to play
Speaker 10: a service academy unless you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me squeeze in one the on basketball with
Speaker 2: a trip to Atlanta to take on Georgia. How I mean,
Speaker 2: we know what they've done in non conference, we know
Speaker 2: what's coming in the Big twelve. We I mean, if
Speaker 2: we're looking resume building and need to put things on
Speaker 2: the board, I mean, how important is a Saturday opportunity
Speaker 2: against Georgia.
Speaker 11: It's critical.
Speaker 10: I mean, you can't if you're playing if this is
Speaker 10: tournament or bus for Les Miller and you really need
Speaker 10: to get over this hump. You've got to have some
Speaker 10: wins in this non conference. Now You've got you know,
Speaker 10: if you look at ken Pom, Georgia's twenty four, Clemsons
Speaker 10: twenty five, so you've got two golden opportunities remaining, yep,
Speaker 10: to put some wins on.
Speaker 11: The board, but you got to stack them.
Speaker 10: You've eliminated any and all leiggle room with the way
Speaker 10: things had played out over the first six weeks of
Speaker 10: the season.
Speaker 11: So for five weeks of the season, whatever it is,
Speaker 11: you better start putting some wins on the board.
Speaker 10: And that starts Saturday against a team that really good
Speaker 10: on offense, really good on defense. They're averaging like ninety
Speaker 10: nine points a game. If you look at their you
Speaker 10: know their metrics. They're good at pretty much everything. So
Speaker 10: this is going to take an incredible effort from Less's
Speaker 10: team if they're going.
Speaker 6: To get this win.
Speaker 2: All right, Bowl Season, Portal, you name it, the basketball.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. You guys are all over it.
Speaker 2: Lay out what the listeners find at barkad journal dot com.
Speaker 10: I mean, if you if you like more information on
Speaker 10: the two guys that left, We've got everything up on
Speaker 10: the board. Keegan's got a couple of articles up that
Speaker 10: covers both of those departs for Cincinnati, and we're getting
Speaker 10: you ready for Georgia on Saturday, getting you ready for
Speaker 10: Navy on January second, And Rocky, there is good news.
Speaker 11: Have you ever done the liberty ball before?
Speaker 4: I have yes, a couple of years ago.
Speaker 10: So you know that there's Rendezvous barbecue in the press box.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if've ever got any of that, but
Speaker 4: I've been to Rendezvous Barbecue a bunch of times, but
Speaker 4: not in the press box, but I will. Thanks for
Speaker 4: letting me know that it would be good.
Speaker 10: Well, maybe it's changed, but the last time we were
Speaker 10: at the Liberty Bowl, the press box meal for the
Speaker 10: media was Rendezvous barbecue.
Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 11: If it's not that anymore, you better pull some strings.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 4: And now they got the construction goaling. So now, because
Speaker 4: I did a game at Memphis this year in the
Speaker 4: press boxes on the opposite side now or the TV
Speaker 4: booth and I assume the radio booth is on the
Speaker 4: opposite side of the press box now, So I don't know.
Speaker 4: But either way, I will find you, and I will
Speaker 4: find Rendezvous barb barbecue and we'll have that.
Speaker 10: Are you at Guss's fan, Rocky Gus Guss's Is.
Speaker 2: That barbecue.
Speaker 10: Chicken I've ever had?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 10: All right, is awesome, but Gus is his otherworldly all right.
Speaker 2: But by the way, if I could and this will
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with sports, but I just thought
Speaker 2: of it, and I hate mentioning other places, but uh,
Speaker 2: of all things. Dave Miley, the former Reds manager, reads
Speaker 2: my random thoughts and and then he texts me his
Speaker 2: random thoughts and he told me that Kelly and I
Speaker 2: have to get chicken at Saint Leon Tavern? Do I
Speaker 2: recall correctly? Did when I was at camp one year?
Speaker 2: Did you not take me there for chicken?
Speaker 3: Do I?
Speaker 2: Do I remember correctly? Didn't we have lunch there at
Speaker 2: Saint Leon Tavern?
Speaker 10: I've been doing this so long, I've had it. And
Speaker 10: if you like the peppery Indiana fried chicken like.
Speaker 4: That, I think we took you don't well, if you
Speaker 4: don't remember, I haven't been there. Did you take me there?
Speaker 4: I didn't take it there? How do you remember that
Speaker 4: you took me there? I think you took me there
Speaker 4: and said you gotta try this. Who else would I
Speaker 4: have gone?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 10: Nobody, probably because wouldn't take.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was cough. No, I think it was you.
Speaker 11: I don't know, all right, I mean, I'm not doubting that.
Speaker 6: I'm just I've.
Speaker 11: Got I've got a bad memory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just old, and thank you, sir. We'll talk
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 2: There you Goad, Brenda Oper Cat Turtle.
Speaker 9: I saw that.
Speaker 4: You know, that's my favorite thing you do, is the
Speaker 4: random talk thing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: You reckon it, you said, I absolutely been there.
Speaker 4: It's uh all right.
Speaker 3: Killers on the list, on the list.
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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and got perspective on what is going on
Speaker 2: with that Ravens team that is now at six and seven,
Speaker 2: and yet, having said that, Lamar Jackson, if he is Lamar,
Speaker 2: gives them an opportunity. Here's Glenn on what's going on
Speaker 2: with the Ravens quarterback.
Speaker 12: Yes, the Ravens still have a chance because they do
Speaker 12: have Lamar Jackson. And if suddenly on Sun Day in Cincinnati,
Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson looks like Lamar Jackson again, then they're going
Speaker 12: to have a chance to win any game if they
Speaker 12: can play, because that's what their organization has been for
Speaker 12: the last few years. They've been They've been good teams,
Speaker 12: but they've been good teams wildly propped up by Lamar
Speaker 12: Jackson being either the best or one of.
Speaker 6: The two or three best players in the entire league.
Speaker 6: To your point, he.
Speaker 12: Hasn't been anything close to.
Speaker 4: That of late.
Speaker 12: And it's a complicated story. The offensive line is terrible.
Speaker 12: The guard position has been a massive problem.
Speaker 6: For the Ravens this season.
Speaker 12: They haven't really experimented with trying anything else. I just
Speaker 12: continue to stick it out and they're not getting better results.
Speaker 12: Then you add to it the number of injuries. The
Speaker 12: hamstring injury that cost them three weeks, and then after
Speaker 12: he came back, he missed practices with designations to the knee,
Speaker 12: the toe, and the ankle, and then today he just
Speaker 12: didn't practice again, and the Ravens are just saying, well,
Speaker 12: this is just a rest day, and like, you sure, fine.
Speaker 12: I mean, he's dealt with a lot of injuries, but
Speaker 12: what you've seen on the field has looked like a
Speaker 12: team that's needed to have more days working together because
Speaker 12: it's just not working.
Speaker 6: So could it happen.
Speaker 12: I guess it could happen, But he's not been right.
Speaker 11: He's just been a shell of himself.
Speaker 6: Rock.
Speaker 2: We saw two weeks ago when they played him, Joseph
Speaker 2: Osai tracked him down to the sidelines, and there were
Speaker 2: other opportunities where it looked like he would normally take
Speaker 2: off seeing an opening, and he just he wasn't willing
Speaker 2: and able to do that.
Speaker 4: He just doesn't seem to strike the fear at the
Speaker 4: hearts of defenders the way he used to have. Just like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, we could have everything perfect, but this
Speaker 4: guy can just flop and make a play and make
Speaker 4: you look stupid in the process. So you know, I
Speaker 4: who knows, And maybe injuries get better, but he just
Speaker 4: I mean this whole year, He's not quite looked the same.
Speaker 2: Here's one more from Glenn talking about Lamar Jackson the passer,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson the runner, and the balance between that this season.
Speaker 3: Take a listener.
Speaker 12: This argument has existed for forever that Lamar was going
Speaker 12: to have to run less, and as I've said a
Speaker 12: million times the injury argument, quarterbacks get hurt in the
Speaker 12: pockets statistically more.
Speaker 4: Than they get hurt when they're right down field.
Speaker 12: And Lamar Jackson in particular, you know, I was so
Speaker 12: fast that he never took big hits downfield, like all
Speaker 12: of the big hits he took were.
Speaker 5: In the pocket because he knew when the hits were coming.
Speaker 3: And he avoided them.
Speaker 12: He got down or he got out of bounds. So
Speaker 12: this has been a really complicated topic that he just
Speaker 12: doesn't give clear answers about. And that makes it frustrating
Speaker 12: because when he's full Lamar Jackson, he is one of one.
Speaker 12: He is the most unique talent we may have seen.
Speaker 6: In the NFL.
Speaker 12: When he's Lamar Jackson doesn't run, he's still an incredibly
Speaker 12: capable thrower of the football. He's one of the more
Speaker 12: precise throwers of the football.
Speaker 6: In the League in the last couple of years. But
Speaker 6: he's not one of one. He's a good football player.
Speaker 2: Glenn Clark, Glen Clark Radio yesterday, joining Eddie and Rocky.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about a quarterback here in
Speaker 2: a second, but quickly cover the AFC North. Brought to
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Speaker 2: five years removed from his last NFL game, could very
Speaker 2: well start on Sunday for the Colts.
Speaker 3: And I ask.
Speaker 2: You and you confirmed you clearly played against Philip Rivers,
Speaker 2: and he is clearly sixteen years later, he's the only
Speaker 2: then active player in the NFL you would have played against.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's the same fishing three times twice
Speaker 4: when he when I was with the Chiefs. But the
Speaker 4: one time that that's the biggest bummer was I don't
Speaker 4: know if this was his rookie year. But it was
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven. In the playoffs, we had a
Speaker 4: first round by we play the Chargers La Danian Tomlinson
Speaker 4: isn't healthy, Philip Rivers isn't healthy. Billy Bullet comes in
Speaker 4: the game and we somehow lose the most inexplicable loss ever.
Speaker 4: But no, he was. He's a great player. But yeah,
Speaker 4: he is a guy that You're not too many people
Speaker 4: in all of him because I'm talking about the opposing team.
Speaker 4: He can irritant, he is a jerk. But you know,
Speaker 4: if he was on my team, I would love this.
Speaker 4: I would love this.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, man, Sunday if he start.
Speaker 2: And I looked this up to give a little context
Speaker 2: to how long he's been around. He was the fourth
Speaker 2: pick overall in two thousand and four. That year, the
Speaker 2: Bengals in the first round drafted Chris Perry, running back Michigan.
Speaker 2: That's how long ago Philip Rivers was drafted. That's incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean just saying two thousand and four out loud,
Speaker 2: and he could start on Sunday.
Speaker 4: So the age is one thing, though, but it's the
Speaker 4: fact he hasn't played in five years. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 4: I heard I read a comment earlier, and he's probably
Speaker 4: rice and mentally like you know, he's still you know, physically.
Speaker 3: Takes a hit and the speed of the game.
Speaker 2: And then the wild thing is he runs the same
Speaker 2: offense that the Colts run. He's been longtime friends with
Speaker 2: Shane Steike and the Colts coach and has installed the
Speaker 2: basically the Colts offense in the high school team that
Speaker 2: he coaches. So it's made it much easier to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go onto His player's.
Speaker 4: Got to be like, yes, that's so awesome.
Speaker 2: All right, we come back if you're ready. We'll get
Speaker 2: into some college football. I want to talk maybe Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: I want to talk as much as we can without
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Speaker 3: All right, Rock, I don't even know where to begin.
Speaker 2: Let's cut to the chase and let's simplify the opening thought.
Speaker 2: Are we in agreement that Notre Dame got hosed out
Speaker 2: of a playoff spot?
Speaker 4: Yes? Who do you think they got? Who?
Speaker 2: Alabama is my biggest beef hunter, because to me, Alabama
Speaker 2: hasn't looked like a playoff team for a good month plus.
Speaker 3: You saw them in personal.
Speaker 4: In person, never thought they were one of those juggernaut
Speaker 4: Alabama teams.
Speaker 2: And it just there was so much of that final
Speaker 2: decision that just doesn't make sense of how Bama's performance
Speaker 2: in the SEC championship game wasn't seemingly weighted, yet BYU's
Speaker 2: performance in the Big twelve championship game was weighted. And
Speaker 2: and it just it It goes back to just the
Speaker 2: sense that they were making it up. A combination of
Speaker 2: making up it as they went and predetermining who they
Speaker 2: wanted and then figuring out the talking points to explain
Speaker 2: why that team was going.
Speaker 8: To make it.
Speaker 4: I think that's the best way to describe. But yeah,
Speaker 4: getting the results they won. But then, okay, how can
Speaker 4: we get to the logical conclusion that we just made
Speaker 4: up well, Well, in this case, we'll emphasize this is
Speaker 4: being the best criteria, and then this one will say
Speaker 4: that you know, whether its strength and schedule or best
Speaker 4: win best loss. It's a huge mess.
Speaker 2: Let's let's run through some Notre Dame bullet points because
Speaker 2: we were we both read the the Pete Sampson piece
Speaker 2: from the and I'd be curious of your thoughts as
Speaker 2: a Notre Dame representative to what he said won. The
Speaker 2: idea of the the value or loss of skipping the
Speaker 2: fifteen ball practices, The idea of skipping the ball, missing.
Speaker 3: Out on ball practices.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you say to those who
Speaker 2: say they took their ball and went home.
Speaker 4: I don't see it that way because as many of
Speaker 4: these other teams are gonna find out that they're gonna
Speaker 4: be missing a lot of players, and so it's not
Speaker 4: gonna be the twenty twenty five Irish that you're going
Speaker 4: to see in any bowl game. It's going to be
Speaker 4: some of those guys and a lot of guys that
Speaker 4: that that weren't that team. So so from that standpoint alone,
Speaker 4: I say, yeah, I understand the situation. And I think,
Speaker 4: you know, there is a time and place in this
Speaker 4: world to take a stand on something and set a precedent,
Speaker 4: and I think they knew that they would set a
Speaker 4: precedent in Asia.
Speaker 3: A couple are things that jumped out from this.
Speaker 2: I am in total agreement that I thought Notre Dame
Speaker 2: overplayed its hands scheduling wise in playing Miami in Texas
Speaker 2: A and m back to back to open the season.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize that their deputy athletic director is
Speaker 2: Ron Paulus, the former Notre Dame quarterback. That's asking an
Speaker 2: awful lot of any any team nobody else in the
Speaker 2: country out of the shoot played Miami in Tech And
Speaker 2: it's not an excuse. I'm just saying, that's an awful
Speaker 2: tough ask of a team.
Speaker 3: You're trying.
Speaker 2: You've lost your defensive coordinator and Al Golden, You've got
Speaker 2: a new, unproven quarterback. There was just a lot to
Speaker 2: ask and to throw that schedule at him.
Speaker 4: So I know college football wants teams to schedule tough
Speaker 4: out of conference games, right because those are the games
Speaker 4: that people want to watch. But in a couple examples
Speaker 4: this year, they have penalized teams for taking those early
Speaker 4: shots and losing. Texas being the other one, yes, against
Speaker 4: Ohio State. So and you know, and that was Steve
Speaker 4: Sarkisian's point. He's like, wait, minute, we took this game.
Speaker 4: We could have taken old dominion and beat them, and
Speaker 4: and but you said, no, we let's take that and
Speaker 4: we won't get penalized for a tougher matchup. Early in
Speaker 4: the season. Notre Dame did the same thing. The fact
Speaker 4: that they did him back to back. Yes, I remember
Speaker 4: saying the time. I was like, oh, what's wrong with
Speaker 4: the Irish. I'm like, well, because most teams in the
Speaker 4: country are scheduling Mercer Yes for the week weeks one
Speaker 4: and two, and they have two top teams back to back.
Speaker 4: I was a terrible move on their part, especially having
Speaker 4: them that early in the season before your team can develop.
Speaker 3: No doubt. What do we how do we view?
Speaker 2: One of the other big talking points is what is
Speaker 2: the playoffs supposed to be about?
Speaker 3: And is it?
Speaker 2: Is it supposed to include opportunities for somebody like James
Speaker 2: Madison for example, versus clearly a better team is the
Speaker 2: It's like the NCAA basketball tournament is never the best
Speaker 2: sixty eight because you have a representative from every single conference,
Speaker 2: a small conference. Whatever should the college football playoff be
Speaker 2: simply give me team's rank one through twelve, or should
Speaker 2: there be an opportunity for somebody like a James Madison.
Speaker 4: I think it should be the best twelve teams. You know,
Speaker 4: I guess because you know Tulane and James mass realistically
Speaker 4: or not gonna win this.
Speaker 6: They're not.
Speaker 4: They're absolutely not going to. And as much as we
Speaker 4: say we like the underdog getting a chance, don't I
Speaker 4: don't know when it plays out.
Speaker 2: If we we don't actually do we don't. I'll give
Speaker 2: you the basketball version of that. When my Butler Bulldogs
Speaker 2: went to the NCAA championship game in back to back years,
Speaker 2: the TV ratings for the championship game the lowest of
Speaker 2: all time because, yeah, they were Cinderella. But people want
Speaker 2: to see blue bloods. They want to see the best
Speaker 2: teams in the country, and they perceive Butler as like
Speaker 2: the little team from Indianapolis at Hinkle, and the ratings
Speaker 2: just tank. We want the best, and I get the
Speaker 2: James Madison argument, but you know, what do you ultimately want?
Speaker 2: Is it the twelve best or is it leave an
Speaker 2: opening for the best group of five? I guess you
Speaker 2: could make it. If you're going to include a group
Speaker 2: of five, they have to be in the time. I
Speaker 2: don't know it. It's very complicated from there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if they would for whatever reason, their schedule and
Speaker 4: who they win and who they beat is puts them
Speaker 4: in there. That's fine. Just back to Notre Dame for
Speaker 4: in just kind of the future of ball.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be my next question. But it's the future, well.
Speaker 4: I think it doesn't. It doesn't vode very well. There's
Speaker 4: like a battle between the old way of doing things
Speaker 4: in college football and a new way of going, and
Speaker 4: it seems like the new way is winning out when
Speaker 4: we're paying players. You know, it's a very transactional sport,
Speaker 4: which doesn't coincide with with the bulls. And I gave
Speaker 4: this example on another radio show, what if after the season, okay,
Speaker 4: after the season the NFL playoffs started, he said, you
Speaker 4: know what, the Bengals and the Titans are gonna play
Speaker 4: an exhibition game. Players aren't gonna get paid, okay, and
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be for anything, but it'll be fun.
Speaker 4: I think the players would never do it, no, because
Speaker 4: you know the same reason. Notre Dame Denim will do
Speaker 4: it because like why, And the fans would be like, well,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, we're gonna get hurt, Like it doesn't
Speaker 4: mean anything. So maybe I'll watch it, but I'm not
Speaker 4: that invested in it. This is kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2: Let me give you a crazy idea and out of
Speaker 2: the box, eyde and it's not mine, So if you
Speaker 2: don't like it, feel free. It's Rick Neuheisel. I saw
Speaker 2: lay this out and he said, the Bowl games are
Speaker 2: done as we as we know him. He says, one
Speaker 2: way to reinvent the Bowl games would be to start
Speaker 2: your season with a bull game. I've heard this idea,
Speaker 2: and do have how X number of bulget whatever it
Speaker 2: is twenty bowl games and that will match up and
Speaker 2: to start to kick off. I kind of like it
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of I don't think there's enough celebration
Speaker 2: of the start of seasons. Baseball does a great thing
Speaker 2: with opening Day in Major League Baseball. I think it'd
Speaker 2: be kind of cool for college football to say opening
Speaker 2: weekend features twenty bowl matchups and this is the kickoff
Speaker 2: of college football. Gather around your TVs and let's go.
Speaker 2: I think there's.
Speaker 3: Something to that.
Speaker 2: I'd have to dig deeper, but on the surface it
Speaker 2: kind of it's an exciting way to start the season.
Speaker 4: I mean, and look, it's all about viewership, right, and
Speaker 4: you know people enough people still watch the Bulls, which
Speaker 4: is ultimately why they still do them. I think, do
Speaker 4: you see double triple the amount of people would watch
Speaker 4: those balls?
Speaker 2: And you know what, if you do it at the start,
Speaker 2: the weather's going to be better in all places versus
Speaker 2: games being played in January in some cold places that
Speaker 2: nobody wants to go to. I mean, I could see
Speaker 2: it being set up as travel to see your team
Speaker 2: kick off the season in the x y Z Bowl
Speaker 2: game to kick off college football twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: I've't even heard about it. You know they have these
Speaker 4: bowl games in the spring. I've heard that float out,
Speaker 4: but I think the beginning of the season week zero, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: just throw them all right there?
Speaker 2: I think it just it would elevated mony Maker absolutely,
Speaker 2: no question. All right, we solved that problem as much
Speaker 2: as we can say publicly without revealing our vote. There
Speaker 2: are four Heisman finalists.
Speaker 10: We know.
Speaker 2: That's Jeremiah Love, Notre Dame, Fernando Mendoza, IU Diego Pavia
Speaker 2: of Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt, and Julian Saying of Ohio State. Our
Speaker 2: ballots allow for choices.
Speaker 4: Dude, did you tell everybody we get a Heisman vote?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We we do. We Uh, we forget how many
Speaker 2: years we've been voting doing the show? I think, do
Speaker 2: we go back to Lamar Jackson? Have we gone? Do
Speaker 2: we go further back than I remember? I do too,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, we go back at least to that.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll ask, because we are not publicly allowed
Speaker 2: to reveal our votes until after the announcement. But and
Speaker 2: you're allowed three. You go onto the computer, your ballot
Speaker 2: is emailed to you. You have to insert, you have
Speaker 2: to type in physically the full name of the player
Speaker 2: and the school. First place, second place, third place. Are
Speaker 2: your three selections among the four Heisman finalists?
Speaker 3: Yes, as our mind.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 2: That's all we can say. Don't say anything else. I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna ask you.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: They have revealed tonight the top ten. Jacob Rodriguez, the
Speaker 2: linebacker at Texas Tech, is number five, Jeremiah six Smith
Speaker 2: of Ohio State six, Gunnar Stockton of Georgia seven, Trinidad
Speaker 2: Shambliss of Ole Miss eight, Caleb Downs nine, and Haines
Speaker 2: King of Georgia Tech is tenth.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a time out, come back, and
Speaker 2: Dan Klaskins has some fantasy football, and then we'll travel
Speaker 2: Rockies Road. We may need an entirely new full segment
Speaker 2: of Rockies Road based on how many games you have
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 3: Holy cow, He's Rocky on Lance.
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Speaker 2: All right, heading down the stretch, final segment of the
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Speaker 3: Let's talk fantasy football now.
Speaker 2: Next guest host of Fantistics Insider Football Sirius XM Fantasy.
Speaker 2: That would be Dan Klaskins and Dan. In most leagues,
Speaker 2: fantasy playoffs start this week. I wonder as the kind of.
Speaker 3: Sewer you are.
Speaker 2: Aside from not making the playoffs, what are some of
Speaker 2: the things you dislike most about fantasy football?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, fantasy playoffs start Lance. Half the league is
Speaker 8: over for them, right, so a lot of bitter people
Speaker 8: out there. We're going to feed into it. Some things
Speaker 8: I hate.
Speaker 6: Let's start with kickers.
Speaker 8: I've been on this crusade to give rid the kickers
Speaker 8: in fantasy for a number of years, and especially if
Speaker 8: the Brandon Aubrey got like twenty five points against me
Speaker 8: last week. There's such a variance there it takes all
Speaker 8: the fun out of it. My least favorite thing is
Speaker 8: in game injuries. In real football, if a player goes
Speaker 8: down the first quarter, a backup comes in and fantasy
Speaker 8: you're left without any stats. I don't know why in Lance,
Speaker 8: in today's age with apps and all the software. We
Speaker 8: can't pick a bench player and have some.
Speaker 6: Sort of rythm.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah nothing.
Speaker 8: I also can't stand crappy trade offers. And I don't
Speaker 8: mean to call our friend James ra Payin out, but.
Speaker 6: He might be the worst.
Speaker 8: He's probably sending me one right now as we speak.
Speaker 8: But man, wasting people's talkings with ridiculous trades. I really
Speaker 8: can't stand people that don't play their league piece. But
Speaker 8: that's just the commissioner coming out of me. And lan's
Speaker 8: probably the thing that really annoys me is free leagues,
Speaker 8: Like why the people playing and why the people ask
Speaker 8: me to play in them? Like, if there's nothing at stake,
Speaker 8: I have no interest.
Speaker 4: That great, Liz, that was a great rant there. I
Speaker 4: love that Dan, good stuff. Bring it all right, let's sell,
Speaker 4: let's do it again your injury. Watch what we got here?
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's start rocking with the big news tonight. Some
Speaker 8: good news for the Bucks and fantasy managers alike Mike Evans,
Speaker 8: he's active from a collarbone injury at the sideline him
Speaker 8: for a couple months.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 8: They also get back Jalen McMillan.
Speaker 9: Now interer at your own risk.
Speaker 8: I do expect Evans to be on some sort of
Speaker 8: limited snap tonight, but he still could offer some good
Speaker 8: Fantasy production As we turn our look towards Sunday. Devon
Speaker 8: Hien the biggest name on the lists.
Speaker 9: He plays on Monday night, so it's not even Sunday.
Speaker 9: We're gonna have to track this one all.
Speaker 8: Weekend, and it could be something fantasy managers were gonna
Speaker 8: have to have a backup play, which would be tough
Speaker 8: considering he's one of fantasy's best running backs. Drake London
Speaker 8: He's already been ruled out the Falcons wide out for
Speaker 8: tonight's game as well, so he's out probably the rest
Speaker 8: of the season. Good news with Ceedee Lamb. He practiced
Speaker 8: today's still in concussion protocol, but trending in the right direction.
Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior's still.
Speaker 8: Not back for the Cardinals, so Michael Wilson will continue
Speaker 8: his really hot streak hopefully rooum of dudes days week
Speaker 8: to week there for the Bears, so don't count on him.
Speaker 9: Garrett Wilson not quite.
Speaker 8: Back yet from his active status, but the Jets playing
Speaker 8: for now them, I'm not sure sure if he'll come
Speaker 8: off I are, and then of course at quarterback. I
Speaker 8: know you guys already probably talked about Phil Rivers, but
Speaker 8: as Daniel Jones managers are really struggling right now, as
Speaker 8: are the Colts. He's out for the season. Jaydon Daniels,
Speaker 8: he's not playing this week. I don't know if he's
Speaker 8: returning from that elbow issue.
Speaker 9: And the Commanders losing zach Ertz.
Speaker 8: That could be a career ending one for the thirty
Speaker 8: four year old tight end. We'll see, but not the
Speaker 8: end of the season he was open for that's for sure.
Speaker 3: All Right.
Speaker 2: How about our weekly look at studs, duds and sleepers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's start with the studs, fellas, and we'll start
Speaker 8: with my favorite.
Speaker 9: Stud of them all, quarterback Jackson Dart.
Speaker 8: I think it's like the third time I've had him
Speaker 8: as a stud. The rookie has a great matchup here
Speaker 8: versus the Commanders.
Speaker 9: I've got him at the number three QB on my
Speaker 9: list overall, which is a lot higher than normal. I
Speaker 9: like the rushing floor.
Speaker 8: I hope our listeners were listening to Lance last week.
Speaker 9: Lance, but I gave him Harold Fan and Junior as.
Speaker 8: A sleeper because he went off for about thirty points.
Speaker 8: He's made his way to the stud status this week.
Speaker 9: He's my tight end four, right behind McBride's Bowers and Kittle.
Speaker 8: I think he's really connected with Shadura Sanders and the
Speaker 8: top target in that Browns passing attack. I'm sitting justin
Speaker 8: Herbert this week. I'm a little scared at that hand
Speaker 8: that cast plus the Chiefs matchup at aarrawhead a tough defense.
Speaker 8: He's outside of my top fifteen and Brian Thomas Junior
Speaker 8: hits a guy. Probably one of the biggest busts of
Speaker 8: the season was a pick on the end of the
Speaker 8: first round. In most leagues, he hasn't scored more than
Speaker 8: excuse me, I had a cop more than three catches
Speaker 8: in a game since Week eight. So he's on my
Speaker 8: bench and my sleepers of the week. What he marks,
Speaker 8: I like him. Seventeen plus touches.
Speaker 9: In five straight games.
Speaker 8: Arizona has given up the fourth most fantasy points. The
Speaker 8: running backs and Juwan Jennings don't dig the PPR points
Speaker 8: at four of his last five. Tennessee's allowed seventeen receivers
Speaker 8: to hit double digit PPR points this season. Jennings becomes
Speaker 8: the eighteenth this week.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely great catching up as always, enjoyed the football this weekend.
Speaker 8: Yes, enjoy the game as fellas, and stay.
Speaker 9: Warm out there.
Speaker 3: Amen to that.
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Speaker 2: slash careers. You have how many games and you mentioned
Speaker 2: radio as well? How many total bowl games?
Speaker 10: Do you have?
Speaker 4: Five total? By postseason bowl games in like thirteen days?
Speaker 4: Start twenty second with a Vocal Bowl, then the twenty
Speaker 4: seventh Military Bowl, and then the thirtieth of Music City Bowl,
Speaker 4: and then the second the Liberty Bowl, and the fourth
Speaker 4: of the D three National Championship. Really this year?
Speaker 6: Really? Yeah?
Speaker 4: All right, for I'll get you tickets.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's very nice. Okay, So uh let's say the
Speaker 3: Music City that's uh, that's.
Speaker 4: Nashville, right, yes, Nashville.
Speaker 2: It's Liberty Gold Tennessee in Illinois, Tennessee and Illinois. Where
Speaker 2: do where's your first one?
Speaker 4: You said? FOCA?
Speaker 3: Oh o, very nice.
Speaker 4: Played at fau's home field there for what it's called.
Speaker 4: But it's nice down there.
Speaker 3: And you get the Bearcats for your radio game?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Do you?
Speaker 3: I forget? Do you do a radio Bowl game every year?
Speaker 4: I had? I didn't last year, but I have in
Speaker 4: the past. I've usually gotten like two TV and one
Speaker 4: radio and this year it's three TV and two radio.
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, I have some presents for the kids. Lance,
Speaker 4: Is that what I'm getting? The extra Bowl games?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Oh, I say, yes.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny as you say presence it is
Speaker 2: it still a thing do? And I guess with n
Speaker 2: I l it's it's no longer a thing when you
Speaker 2: used to go as players, you go into the suite
Speaker 2: and you had X amount of gift card dollars to
Speaker 2: buy like headphones and everything else.
Speaker 4: Players are getting paid, Like I say, has that.
Speaker 3: Gone away or do they still do it?
Speaker 4: Or that has been They used to be the big
Speaker 4: thing that That has been my argument for why players
Speaker 4: don't care about the ball games. I remember in two thousand, okay,
Speaker 4: we were in line to go to the Fiesta Bowl,
Speaker 4: which we made, and we were so excited because we're
Speaker 4: gonna get like five hundred dollars in swag and you
Speaker 4: just walk into the suite and you pick you pick
Speaker 4: out what I think they actually they gave us a
Speaker 4: Duffel bag okay with you know and had like you know,
Speaker 4: the Fiesta Bowl logos sewn on, and it was cool
Speaker 4: when inside was but like the first like the first
Speaker 4: generation Bow's noise canceling had no so and you would
Speaker 4: have thought we died and went to heaven over five
Speaker 4: hundred dollars in free swag. Now these players are getting
Speaker 4: paid thousands of dollars a week, and I don't care
Speaker 4: about another reason why the balls don't mean as much
Speaker 4: to the players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of that, and I guess we're never going
Speaker 2: to get around with this because I mentioned last week.
Speaker 2: Keep this story because we talked about it this week.
Speaker 2: But the baseline rate, according to the Athletic for a
Speaker 2: Power four quarterback starts at rough lay one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: to three hundred thousand. Five star quarterbacks are getting seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand, maybe a million. And the reports
Speaker 2: around Brendan Soresby is he has a deal, multiple deals
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood of four million dollars to leave.
Speaker 3: You see different times, rock Worth living.
Speaker 4: In different times, but we're in one way. In some ways,
Speaker 4: we're trying to do the same thing and wondering why
Speaker 4: it ain't worth.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we're done. It's been a good night,
Speaker 2: very well executed. Fran hit the flash on every picture
Speaker 2: he took tonight, right, out of the gate. Does not
Speaker 2: get any better than that. We upped our game tonight.
Speaker 2: His lovely wife, Phyllis, wants to make it clear she
Speaker 2: was not listening talking to somebody on the phone and
Speaker 2: ignoring us. She was actually listening to us on the
Speaker 2: iHeart radio as it got loud in here because this
Speaker 2: place was packed.
Speaker 3: So there you go. Wanted to set the record straight.
Speaker 4: Successful night, Have.
Speaker 3: A great night, everybody.
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