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For the record, we did not confer before. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Both wearing our Georgia state hats. Tonight, Georgia, Southern Georgia, Southern. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Georgia Southern. 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: You know, if you make that mistake on air, you 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: will get hate mail from Georgia. 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Our Georgia Southern hats. Yes that you got me very 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: d again. Yeah, where we're We're doubling up on them 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: tonight Rock Sunday. I felt good at what they marched 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: down the field on their opening drive, and then they 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: do it on their second drive and their third drive, 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: and they have touchdowns on the first three drives and 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: they led. When they led twenty eight to eighteen, when 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Joe found Mike Aziki in the back of the end zone, 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: I'm thinking they are actually going to pull this off. 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: And even even after twenty one answered by the Bills, 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: when they got Josh Allen and the Bills to third 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: and fifteen, I'm thinking they're going to get a stop 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: here and Joe Burrow is going to win this game 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: in the snow, and it will be odd and then 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: it will off. 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: It was off, and the defense kind of crept back 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: up as the detriment of this team. Obviously Burrow throwing 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: the interceptions was a big one, but I think the 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: big story the defense. We want to believe it's getting better. 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: Maybe it's better, but it's not where it needs to be. 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: They just have a way of doing one thing. Whether 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: it's Miles Murphy taking it inside rush and leaving the outside, 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: or it's a hands to the face penalty by DA's Hill, 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: or it's just Barrett Carter taking a wrong step a 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: bad angle. 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: They just have a way. 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: They'll do something as you said, you think all right, 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: and then they'll do something. 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: You say, you got to be kidding me. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, And as we always or I always talk about, 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: they just don't have the explosiveness to make up. You're 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: gonna have hands with the face penalties. You're gonna have 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: a guy out of his lane. But you need some 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: of those guys that just close the door, just shut 58 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: the door right there, and they don't have them. 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Now, I will say this, I have a scenario for 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: you Rock. Are you ready for the scenario? If there's 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: a lot of ink on that pay, Yes, the Bengals 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: went out. 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: This isn't far fetched, is it? 64 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: If the Bengals went out and the Steelers have to 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: lose three of their last four and the Ravens have 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: to lose two of their last four, that's not impossible. 67 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: That's not impossible. 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: But here's some context to that we're saying the Bengals 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: have to win out, so they have to win four 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: games in four tries. So far they've won four games 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 2: in thirteen tries, so we sensed the problem. Yes, it's 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: one thing to say just went out well. That would 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: require matching their win total to this point in the 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: entire season, So we shall see. Can I do some 75 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: headlines so we can go yes, far away? All right, 76 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: let's start. Bengals go to work. We're back at work 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: today on the Ravens and for Sunday's matchup at pay 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Cort T. Higgins, still in concussion protocol, was limited at practice. 79 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart was a full go. More from Trags coming 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: up in a couple of minutes. Bengals plays Trey Hendrickson 81 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: on the reserve injured list with a hip pelvis injury. 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: He had played seven games this season. Steelers pass rusher TJ. 83 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Watt is in a Pittsburgh hospital for lung evaluation after 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: experiencing discomforted practice yesterday. 85 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: Excuse me. 86 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: His status for Monday's game against the Dolphins. Getting all 87 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: choked up is in question. Four Bearcats earned All Big 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: twelve honors from the Associated Press. Linebacker Jake Goldey offensive lineman, 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: Evan ten Guestahl and were placed on the first team, 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: while Joe Cotton offensive lineman and Dante Corleone defensive lineman 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: both received spots on the second team. Former Michigan football 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: coach Arn Moore, who remains in custody as a suspect 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: and an alleged assault. He's expected to appear in court 94 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: for a raiment on Friday, fired yesterday after an internal 95 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: investigation revealed an improper relationship with a staff member. 96 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: He was taken into custody last night. 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football Falcons at the Buccaneers eight fifteen on 98 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The NFL, by the way, is 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: shortening the time between draft picks in the first round. 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: Teams will now have eight minutes instead of ten minutes. 101 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: College basketball, he gets back in action Saturday night or 102 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon in Atlanta at State Farm Arena. They take 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: on Georgia in the Holiday Hoops Giving Talk Bearcats tonight 104 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: after us on The West Miller Show. Baseball single game 105 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: tickets red spring training home games go on sale tomorrow 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: at noon. Reds dot Com Slash Spring twenty twenty six 107 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: Cactus League play begins on Saturday, February twenty first versus 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: the Guardians at Goodyear Ballpark. They are scheduled to play 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: seventeen games at Goodyear Ballpark, including a World Baseball Classic 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: exhibition versus Cuba, and two games as the visiting team 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: against the Guardians. The Braves bolstered their bullpend today they 112 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: signed Podrey's National Lakes save leader Robert Swarez to a 113 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: three year forty five million dollar deal, Atlanta Ink to 114 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: icell Igalacias to a one year, sixteen million dollar deal. 115 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: About two weeks ago, at FC Cincinnati, assistant Dominic Kinnear 116 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: has departed the club after four seasons. 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: Those are your headlines, all right? 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: We have the following tonight, the the cast of usual 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: cast of characters minus Greg. Unfortunately, the high school football 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: season is over, but we'll talk with Trags Mike Petralia 121 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: from c l NS Media at six twenty. We'll talk 122 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: with Chad Brendle at seven o six. On the Bearcats front, 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: we'll talk with Dan Klaskins at seven fifty. We got 124 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: into you gotta get into what Joe Burrow said. You'll 125 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: hear a little bit of it. We'll react to it. 126 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the release of Jermaine Burton, We'll talk 127 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: about Rocky playing against perhaps Sunday starting quarterback for the 128 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, and preview the Baltimore Ravens. All of that 129 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: is ahead. He's Rocky on Lance. We're at Long Necks 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: and Wilder. Plenty of time for you to get here 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: hang out with us tonight see Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power 132 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: by Tope Sheldon Round Table Show, Long Necks and Wilder 133 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: and presented by Postman Law seven hundred w l W 134 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 2: six seven HUNDREDLW The Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: Sheldon Round Table Show. Hanging at It Long Next he 136 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: at Wilder, Lance, McAlister, Rocky Boyman. It's all brought to 137 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: you in part by Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksworth Donors, Save. 138 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: Lives Close to Home. Who will you say? 139 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Let's turn to our feature guest every week at this time, 140 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: he's all over the Bengals for cl nscincywithy dot com. 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: Host of the wildly popular Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube. 142 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: That would be Mike Petralia. 143 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: How are you. 144 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 5: I'm doing well, Lanced Rocky. Been kind of an eventful 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: week at pay Corpse stadium with regard to a certain quarterback. 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: Lots of speculation out there about what was said, what 147 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 5: he meant to say, and I'm sure we're going to 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: get into that, but it's never a dull moment when 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: you're on the Bengals feet, that is for sure. 150 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: No doubt, and a perfect segue to the obvious first question. 151 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: You were in the room yesterday, in the moment, you 152 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: ask a great follow up question to Joe and just 153 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: kind of as you pay time to process and think 154 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: about it over the last twenty four hours, what did 155 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: you make of Joe Burrow's reflections on life and career yesterday? 156 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: Well, it's always dangerous business in our industry lands to 157 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: read body language and then draw a conclusion based on 158 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: that body language. But certainly there was something on Joe's mind, 159 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: and my question was right to the point, was it 160 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: football related? 161 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 6: Was it personal? And he said all of the above. 162 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: Well to me, if it was just purely personal, I 163 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: think he would have led on to that. I don't 164 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: think he was playing forty chess in terms of trying 165 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: to disguise something in his personal life by saying it 166 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: was both football and personal. I think he was legitimately 167 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: he had some things on his mind that were struggling. 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: I think is a fair word. He was very much 169 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 5: not himself. He was very distracted when he entered that 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 5: room yesterday, and it became apparent, you know, he kind 171 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: of gage short, very truncated answers to the questions that 172 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 5: were being asked, and then eventually it just got to 173 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: the point where I was wondering, Okay, is this football related? 174 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 5: Is it personal? And when he said that, I think 175 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 5: there was a point a madness, a method to his madness, 176 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: I should say. And I don't think Joe ever answers 177 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: anything by accident. I always think there's a purpose to 178 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 5: his answers. And I think he's been very bothered by 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 5: this season from a professional level, certainly with the team 180 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: being four and nine, him doing everything in his power 181 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 5: to get back and play, and you know, they win 182 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: their first game back with him at the helm. Maybe 183 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 5: he should have played against the Patriots, maybe not, And 184 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 5: then they blow the game last week against Buffalo, and 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 5: you know, barring a miracle, Burrow is going to miss 186 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 5: the playoffs for a third straight year. But he also 187 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: brought up the fact that he's been through so much 188 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 5: more so than other quarterbacks in the NFL, and he's 189 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 5: been through so much and he still wants to play. 190 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 5: And that's something that Jamar Chase pointed out today in 191 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 5: his gathering with the media. 192 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 6: And you know, Jamarrow was giving. 193 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 5: It to us, saying, you guys are always trying to 194 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 5: create some type of narrative, always trying to stir the pot. 195 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: And we came back at Jamar saying, no, we just 196 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: want to know if you have any perspective that could 197 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: clarify the matter. And he told us today, all I 198 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: can tell you is Joe Burrows still loves football. He 199 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 5: still loves preparing, He loves the whole act of coming 200 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: in to the building and getting ready to play the game. 201 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 6: This coming Sunday. 202 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 5: So that was the perspective from Jamar Chase today and 203 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 5: I think it was good perspective. 204 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 6: In the end. I don't think Joe Burrow's trying to 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 6: shoot himself out of town. I would never go that far. 206 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: I think he was just having a rough day and 207 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 6: there was a lot on his mind. 208 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: So let's dive into that further. You know, Joe is 209 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: I think very good with his power of persuasion. Right 210 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: when he uses the microphone to kind of get things 211 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: that he wants. So did you see it more as hey, 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: this is a guy that's really kind of down on 213 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: his luck and everything. Or was he using this, as 214 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: you know, kind of as a message to the front office, like, hey, 215 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: man like you, we got to do something to build 216 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: this franchise back here or else kind of deal. 217 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 6: I would say the latter, Rocky. 218 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: He certainly did it last year with Sea and Jamar, 219 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: more so with t because I think the Jamar stuff 220 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: was the FATA complay that had to be done. 221 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 6: But I think when he. 222 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 5: Brought Tea into the mix and said, we really need 223 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: both of these guys back if the offense is going 224 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 5: to be or what I think it can be and 225 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: what I think we all know it can be. 226 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 6: So he's done it before. 227 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: I do think there's some credibility to what you're suggesting, Rocky, that. 228 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 6: He may have been laying a very. 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 5: Subtle message, a very subtle groundwork in terms of I'm 230 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 5: not happy. 231 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 6: I think you can read it in my body language. 232 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: We have got to get our act together, cleaning it 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 5: up a little bit there. Got to get our act 234 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: together and make sure that this doesn't happen next year. 235 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: I would love to ask, and he's never going He's 236 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: going to say. If I asked the question, what kind 237 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 5: of changes do you want to see happen, He's going 238 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: to say. 239 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: My job is to play football. 240 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 5: I lead the football decisions to the football people. That's 241 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: what he said last year, and I don't think there's 242 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: any reason he would change that messaging publicly. 243 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 6: But behind closed doors, I'm sure he is. 244 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 5: You know, either has or will let Katie, Troy, Mike 245 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 5: and certainly Duke all know where what he feels about 246 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: the current situation. 247 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: Traig's also believe it was you that asked him about 248 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: keeping his finger on the pulse of the energy in 249 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: the locker room now at four and nine. Do you 250 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: sense any wavering this week now at four and nine, 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: with the decks so stacked against this team. 252 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 6: I don't, And that's a great question. 253 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: Lance. 254 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes again with the body language and the 255 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 5: atmosphere when you read it in the locker room and 256 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 5: the players are listening to music and relaxing, and you know, 257 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 5: people aren't really quiet and somber. You could take that. 258 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 5: If you're from the outside, you could take that as well. 259 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 5: These guys don't take their job seriously. They're not upset 260 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: like the fans are upset. But then you take a 261 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: step back and you realize, and Rocky, I'm sure you 262 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: can speak to this. It's their job, and you can't 263 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 5: be serious twenty four hours a day. You can't be 264 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: upset twenty four hours a day. You waste too much 265 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 5: and you expend too much energy being upset. So you 266 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 5: do your job to the best of your ability. 267 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 6: In the morning, you go out, you have a good practice, 268 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 6: could walk through. 269 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 5: Whatever, and then you come back in the locker room 270 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: and unwind for half an hour. 271 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with that. 272 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 5: But what Joe Burrow told me yesterday was the fact 273 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 5: that he likes the energy. He likes the way everybody 274 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: is working hard to get better, and I think that's significant. 275 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 5: I think the fact that Joe Burrow made a point 276 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: of saying that the energy in the locker room is 277 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 5: in a good place is indicative of what he feels about, 278 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 5: at least the mental approach to the players there at 279 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: the talent level, and perhaps the positions they are being 280 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: put in during a game. Maybe that's a different matter 281 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: and subject altogether. 282 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: Try I'm not sure if he has been officially ruled 283 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: out or not, but he's been in a concussion protocol. 284 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: What's and now you know, no Jermaine Burton. Not that 285 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: that's a big deal when it comes to that, but 286 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: any word on how his role is going to be 287 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: filled what other players may be more in the mix 288 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: this week. 289 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: So he was again limited today, Rocky, and that means 290 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: he's pretty much in the same spot he was last week. 291 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: If he can get if he can clear protocol by 292 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: the time you know, tomorrow ends and he goes through 293 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 5: the Friday practice at full participation, he could be cleared 294 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: in theory to go on Sunday. And I think there's 295 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 5: a misperception that the team has a lot to do 296 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 5: with this. I don't think they do. It's more a 297 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: medical decision. And if the player feels ready to go 298 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: and and he has been cleared medically to go, meaning 299 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: he is non symptomatic, then it's up to the. 300 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 6: Player to play. And if he wants to play, he'll play. 301 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: And you know, some people may think that's reckless for 302 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: the team. 303 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: To let him go out and play, but again, if the. 304 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: Player feels like he is asymptomatic and feels fine to play, 305 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: then he's going to play I do. I am sympathetic 306 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: to those who believe that this guy's come off one 307 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: concussion and symptoms of a second, and there is a 308 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: fine life. 309 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 6: There is some. 310 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: You know, medical innuendo there in discernment to be taken 311 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: into consideration the difference between the two. But he had 312 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: one concussion and he had symptoms of a second. And 313 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: if you know, the team is cautious, maybe they hold 314 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 5: him out. But again, I think the final decision is 315 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 5: up to T Higgins. 316 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: Trags, you were all over all of this for more, 317 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: tell listeners how they can read, watch and follow. 318 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 6: All right, telling us Simpson with a Y dot Com. 319 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to have a column up for tonight's Flash 320 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 5: tomorrow morning regarding what Jamar Chase said today and taking 321 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 5: twenty four hours to kind of digest, like we said 322 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: at the top of the conversation about what Joe Burrow 323 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: said on One today. That column will be up on 324 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 5: Stealing Us since with a Y dot Com. 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I'll get a check on news still ahead. 335 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: You'll hear a little bit of what Joe said yesterday 336 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: and then we'll react to it. 337 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: That is next. 338 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: It's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope Showdon Roundtable Show, 339 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: Long Next in Wilder the spot. It's presented by Postman 340 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: Law seven hundred WLW six thirty eight seven hundred WLW 341 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope showd in round 342 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Table Show. We're at Long Necks in Wilder, presented by 343 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Postman Law. Brought to you in part by Ever Dry 344 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: water Proofing. It's not dry till it's ever dry. Lance McAlister, 345 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: Rocky boymen, the gangs all here, Mike Mills here to 346 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: our left, Joe Waddell back in the studio. Fran and 347 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: lovely wife Phyllis are here. Franz decked out in a 348 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 2: long neck shirt. He'll be serving a little bit later on, 349 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: just to be making his way around and delivering drinks. 350 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: And look at that Phyllis is on the phone. You know, 351 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: I'm paying attention to this all the time. Ultimate just wow, 352 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: she's a mover and shaker. She's she's just got people 353 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: to talk to. I agree. Yesterday, the much discussed Joe Burrow. 354 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: Let's listen to about a minute and ten seconds of 355 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: what he said, and then let's react to what he said. 356 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 2: So I like a play. Here's Joe Burrow yesterday. 357 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 7: I want to keep doing this. I have to have 358 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 7: fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot, 359 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 7: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing 360 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 7: it for? So mindset, I'm trying to bring to the 361 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 7: table how much right now? 362 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: So all to have fun? 363 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: And then the season would've been through, physically, emotionally, all 364 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: of it. 365 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 6: And certainly did you. 366 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 4: Have fun playing with you? I mean, how much of 367 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: it was fun? 368 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: Before? 369 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 6: Wins? 370 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: Always fun? 371 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: But in general, was it was fun before you got hurt? 372 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 8: No? 373 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say. 374 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say you did it that way? 375 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 4: I think I'm not sure. 376 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 7: I'm not sure there was a singular moment or of time. 377 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 7: It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things 378 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 7: that I've done and been. 379 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 9: Through in my career. 380 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 7: I think I've been through more than most and certainly 381 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 7: not easy on the the brain or the body. So 382 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 7: it's trying to have fun doing. 383 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: Anything you've seen like the something on the line. And 384 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: maybe I'm written too much into it, but it seems frustrated. 385 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 7: There's a lot of things going on right now. A 386 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 7: lot of things going on right now, all related personally, 387 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 7: all the above. 388 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow yesterday. 389 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: It's led to a great deal of speculation and conversation. 390 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: I think the easy knee jerk default is to tie 391 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: him now to either Carson Palmer or Andrew Lucky. That's 392 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: that's the very easy thing to do. I just I 393 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: would say this, he was clearly yesterday on his twenty 394 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: ninth birthday, he was clearly taking inventory of his life 395 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: and mentally and physically how he feels on his twenty 396 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: ninth birthday. And there's a lot going on with Joe 397 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Burrow right now. I'm not going to make it more 398 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: than that. I'm not going to make it less than that, 399 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 2: But clearly it was a day of reflection for Joe 400 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: Burrow about a lot of important stuff in his life. 401 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: We all do it, right, especially when things are kind 402 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: of down. We reassess and where am I, Why am 403 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: I feeling this way? What do I have to do 404 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: to make it better? And like you said, there's a 405 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: lot of things going on, you know, the you know, 406 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: the injuries the last couple of years. You know, third 407 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: straight year Bengals probably aren't going to playoff twenty ninth birthday, right, 408 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: You always kind of reassess things as you're approaching thirty, 409 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: like any human does. And I think the biggest thing 410 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: is just the fact that you know, it's tough to 411 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: play this game when you're not healthy, and he hasn't 412 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: been healthy for a full year in a long time, right, 413 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 4: and and it's mentally draining and physically draining in and 414 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: of itself. And then you got the losing season, and 415 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 4: when you're doing all that, and you're also getting up 416 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 4: in five thirty and going to rehab and you're playing 417 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: with some kind of weird thing in your shoe and 418 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: it doesn't quite feel right that that that is. It's 419 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: tough day and day, and. 420 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: You you make it all the way back with the 421 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: expectation I'm going to you know, elevate us and maybe 422 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: save the season, and you win the first game, and 423 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: then they were winning on Sunday and then they weren't 424 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: and he threw two interceptions. Yeah, you pile there's all that, 425 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: all those chips into the middle, and you understand why 426 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: it was. It was a heavy sounding at times, almost 427 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: maybe a dark conversation yesterday. 428 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and again I think it's it's completely honest 429 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 4: for him to go through that. Yeah. I don't think 430 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: he's sounding the alarms that he wants to leave. I 431 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 4: do think he's been a little bit calculating in it, 432 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: and by sharing that in a way telling the front office, hey, look, 433 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: you know, I'm twenty nine. Soon he'll be thirty. Yep. 434 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: Thirty is kind of the line of hey, you're no 435 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: longer a young player. And I think he also is seen. 436 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing lance to add to all 437 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 4: that is he's looking forward to what's coming next year 438 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: and he's not seeing some radical shift, some great amount 439 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: of change where this defense in particular is going to 440 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: get a lot better. 441 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: I think he's it'd be one thing if this season 442 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: was if we say, for all practical purposes, they've been eliminated. 443 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if he could look in the 444 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: look down the road and see, well, next season we 445 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: will be back to where we. 446 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: Need to be. 447 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: I think he's looking saying, well, crap, I'm already worried 448 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: about next season to a large extent. 449 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: Well, you act like that when you like you don't 450 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: have any hope. And if he were looking at this 451 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: and this was a say it was a defense where 452 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: three impact players were hurt and they're you know, season 453 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: ending injuries, but boy don't be back, and that gives 454 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: you hope when there's something good coming down the line, 455 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: I think he's saying, look at I don't see this 456 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: defense getting any better in one cycle. 457 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: Now I want to bring something up, and I'm gonna 458 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: preface this by saying, because you know how I feel. 459 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: People Sometimes people they don't want to they don't want 460 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: to read, or they don't want to. 461 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 3: Listen, and they just want to. 462 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: They just want to. I've now adjusted to people are 463 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: so quick to want to say something more than they 464 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: want to listen or learn something. 465 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: They just want to say something. 466 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: It isn't So I'm gonna I'm gonna stress that when 467 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: I say this, I was curious after what Joe said yesterday, 468 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: because to me, there were words that kind of caught 469 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 2: my ear and I went back today. I'm treading very 470 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 2: lightly here. I know where you're going. I listened to 471 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck's press conference when he retired. 472 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: He was twenty nine years old. 473 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: It was August of twenty six team, and I circled 474 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: some phrasing he used. And I'm not tying Joe to 475 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: a decision like this. I'm just saying I was struck 476 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: by how Joe reflected on his life yesterday is very 477 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: similar to how Andrew Luck was reflecting on his the 478 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: day he made the announcement what he said quote. For 479 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: the last four years or so, I've been in this 480 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: cycle of injury pain rehab, injury pain rehab, and it's 481 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: been unceasing, unrelenting, both in season and off season, and 482 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: I felt stuck in it. The only way I see 483 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: out is to no longer play football. I'm in pain, 484 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm still in pain. It's taken the joy out of 485 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: the game. And after twenty sixteen, I made about of 486 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: myself that I would not go down that path again. 487 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: I've come to the proverbial fork in the road, and 488 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 2: I made about of myself that if I ever did 489 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: it again, I'd choose me. In a sense, part of 490 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: my journey going forward will be figuring out how to 491 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: feel better. Those are some pretty powerful words from Andrew 492 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: Lucky in all that he was considering with his life, 493 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: and and it's why I wanted to I just wanted 494 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: to see where he was coming from and what words 495 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: he was using. And I don't use this to sound alarms, 496 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of reflection he was doing that 497 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: I heard Joe Burrow doing yesterday. 498 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's similar to that. 499 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: The rehab, the pain, the discycle. 500 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: A lot of the same things. But I think also 501 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: at that point, Angela didn't have hope. He didn't have 502 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: hope the offensive line was ever going to be fixed 503 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: because he had seven eight years. Great boy never seemed 504 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: to happen, yep. So he was at his wits end. 505 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: And I think while Burrow may not be there, I 506 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 4: think there's the danger that this keeps up a little, 507 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: you know, just a little bit longer. He could go 508 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: to that place. 509 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, you we talked about it before, 510 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: and you've rehabbed injuries. I just I can't imagine the 511 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: mental drake. Forget about the physical drain, the mental drain 512 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: of having to rehab returning injury, rehab returning injury, and 513 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: just feel like like you're on the the the hamster wheel, 514 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: and it never it never changed. 515 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: To A much smaller example would be like for you 516 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: if every before every show, like you woke up in 517 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 4: the morning you couldn't speak right, you had, you had 518 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: no voice, but you had you took the cough drops 519 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: and you took the t's and by the time six 520 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: o'clock roll around you could go out there and do it. 521 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: And you was scratching and hurt a lot, but you 522 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: got through it. And I knew the next morning I'd 523 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: have to do the exact same damn thing over and 524 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: over and over and over and over. That's that's very taxing, 525 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: not just physically but mentally. It's mentally draining and wearing 526 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 4: on a player. And that's what's happening with him, no doubt. 527 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: And it's time for our standing ovation for last week. 528 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: It's presented by Ovation the Urban Resort where Cincinnati coming 529 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: to the Newport come together. 530 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 9: Let's go. 531 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: Mike Gasicki, who was very productive on Sunday six targets 532 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: six catches eighty seven yards at a touchdown, showed the 533 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: impact he can have on this offense and why they 534 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: sorely missed him during that stretch when he was dealing 535 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: with the peck injury. That's the ovation standing ovation brought 536 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: to you by Ovation of Plot Life Experience Ovation Visit 537 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: Ovation on the River dot com. And we'll review last 538 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: week's drive of the game because it ties in Mike Kasiki. 539 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: It's brought to you by Driveway Dumpsters in Cincinnati black 540 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: and yellow does mean trash. Visit d Dumpsters dot com. 541 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: It was the twelfth place, seventy five yard drive Burrow 542 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: to Kasiki had made it twenty eight to eighteen with 543 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: about eight and a half minutes to go. If we 544 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: could just stop the game there, because the Bills then 545 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: scored the next twenty one points still ahead, let's talk 546 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: at Jermaine Burton. I want you to hear also what 547 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: Zach said about Trey hendrickson, which I guess we'll we'll 548 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: give us a little insight into their relationship that as 549 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: we continue. It's a Cincinnati tax resolution powered by Tope 550 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: sholdon Round Table Show. It's presented by Postman Law. We're 551 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: at Longnecks in Wilder seven hundred WLW closing in on 552 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: seven o'clock on this Thursday night, Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered 553 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: by Tope Showdon round Table Show. We're at Longnecks in Wilder. 554 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: It's brought to you in part by my university where 555 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: today's students become tomorrow's leaders. Visit Miami Oh Dot e 556 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: du By the way, while I'm thinking about a shout 557 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: out to Miami University Miami football, they were very kind 558 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: to send me a replica jersey from their Cradle of 559 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: Coaches game, especially going on to a jersey those are sharp. 560 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: I put mine on today. I went up into Casey's 561 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: room and I found the Miami Redhawk's helmet that Terry 562 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: Heppner was so kind to give Casey what he was 563 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: in the hospital years ago. It sits up on a 564 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: on a shelf, so Rockeye. I put that jersey on, 565 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: and then I said, well, let me put that helmet on. 566 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: I saw it, and then I may have taken a picture, 567 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: and then I may well. First of all, I sent 568 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: it to my family and their reaction was sheer horror. 569 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: I think Peyton said whah, with about twelve whys following 570 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: Casey's response was terrifying, and I think Kelly's response was, 571 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: make sure you're not wearing that when I come home. 572 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: What's funny because you wore the jersey but I got 573 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: one too, But Kelly is gonna have it on when 574 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: I get. 575 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: I'll see you are You're not right? You are not right. 576 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: You should You should have seen me walking around the house. 577 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm the only one in the house wearing that helmet 578 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: and the jersey hit. I'm trying to figure out where 579 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: I could take a picture. I'm trying to figure out 580 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: the lighting for the picture. And I finally opened up 581 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: the front door and had the snow background. 582 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: I was like football now, telling me you had the 583 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: helmet on, you're all in the house, did you, like, 584 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: you know, bash the helmet in like a wall or two? 585 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 2: Just grunted, Yeah, I grunted, and then I really Then 586 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: I thought, as always do I don't know how. I 587 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: don't know how you guys wear helmets. They're just so 588 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: damn one. They're so tight and they're so heavy, and 589 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: I just. 590 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: How do you run around with those things? 591 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: A man? Oh man? 592 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: But thank you to Miami University and here you. 593 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: Want to let me see you hold hold on here, 594 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: let me no, you tagged me. 595 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: I saw no, but there was a there was a here. 596 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: This is the one that may have scared my family. 597 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: Let's see, there's the one that scared my Fanily. 598 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: God, I may be grunting and uh it may be 599 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: like my Dick buck kiss look. 600 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: Ridiculous. Thank you Miami University. 601 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Let's do our defensive play of last week before we 602 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: run out of time. 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That's our 612 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: Postman Law injury report delivered by Postman Law Injured called 613 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: eight four to four Postman. All right, before we get 614 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: into Jermaine Burton quickly, just because I got a kick 615 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: out of this. This is yesterday, and Trey Hendrickson has 616 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: had surgery, He's on injured reserve, He's probably played his 617 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: final snap. There was a question asked yesterday about to 618 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: Zach about his reaction to Trey's surgery and probably being 619 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: done for the season, and I'm thinking, all right, Zach's 620 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: gonna say, yeah, it's a tough blow. 621 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: It's been a tough. 622 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: Season, and we miss his abilities late in games, and 623 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: there was a hope he could get back in and 624 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: help us, and we certainly missed that element of the game. 625 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: Listen to the question and what Zach said in response 626 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: to it. How disappointing wasn't it to find out about 627 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: Hendrickson and not potentially being able to happen for the 628 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: rest of the year. 629 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing new, brilliant, Mean, that's that's been the last 630 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: few weeks. 631 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: That was it? Nothing new? 632 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, He's a big piece of our defense and 633 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: we miss it. 634 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: Nothing. 635 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed to be very frustrated with uh, Trey Henderson. 636 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: If you ever thought there was a glimmer hope that 637 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: Trey Henderson might be back next year, it is absolutely gone. 638 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: It is gone now. Jermaine Burton. 639 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: I think it is the most often as question why 640 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: did they keep him around as long as they did? 641 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: And I heard you talking with Tommy Is as part 642 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: of the Thursday segment you do in on UH or 643 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: in the mornings once a week, and I do one 644 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: once a week, and and I thought you hit on 645 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: a great point. It's one thing when somebody is so 646 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: gifted when they're younger and on athletic ability are better 647 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: than everybody else. But there comes a time you got 648 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: to be a pro. You got to have the work ethic, 649 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: have a lot, and it just never just never was 650 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: there or showed itself for Jermaine Burton, Yeah. 651 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: You just wonder did he during his youth in high 652 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 4: school and college career. You know, he likely, like a 653 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 4: lot of NFL players, was the best player, right and 654 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: was always the fastest and the and the number one 655 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: guy on the team. And and so he wondered did 656 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: he ever have to really work at the craft? You know, 657 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: did he have to learn the ins and outs of 658 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 4: the of the wide receiver, the route tree or was 659 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: he just always good enough to just win in spite 660 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: of And I've just I've seen, you know, some athletes 661 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: where they're great at Lettism is a great blessing, but 662 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: the biggest curse. I think that was true of Cam 663 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: Newton to some degree, Like he was so physically gifted 664 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: and he was a good quarterback, but never I don't 665 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: think the potential that he could have been because his 666 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: whole life he was just so good. The mental side 667 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: of it he didn't have to do. 668 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: I mean, so I and think about it. 669 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: You get drafted out of Alabama the eightieth overall, and 670 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: you get to go to an organization with Joe Burrow 671 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase and T Higgins to learn from in 672 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: the same room, and you blow. 673 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: It, blow it. I mean his golden opportunity. T Higgins 674 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 4: is out this year. They need somebody to step up, 675 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: and he's he's just just not not there. I just 676 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: he also just wonder I always separated guys that didn't 677 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: seem to make it in the NFL. Where did you 678 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: love football? Or do you love what football brought you? 679 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: And I just never it never felt to me that 680 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: Jermaine Burn was a guy just loved football. Because if 681 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: you love the game, you study the game and you 682 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: do what you can to get better in the game, 683 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: not because you know it'll give you money, just because 684 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: damn it, that's what I want to do and I'm 685 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: interested in it so much. Just never seemed like very 686 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: I mean again, talk about I mean, how many people, 687 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 4: how many wide receivers, great wide receivers would cut off 688 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: their pinky yep to be placed in that situation, like 689 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: you said with Joe Burrow in this town, with Jamar 690 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: Chase and t Higgins right there, couldn't take advantage. It's 691 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 4: very sad. 692 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: One hour done, one hour to go. Chad Brendle talks 693 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: you see football as we continue, and then wait till 694 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: we get into some college football conversation. We might talk 695 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. You never know. 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After they win four straight, 713 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens lose two of four and the Steelers lose three. 714 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: Of four, then we have to tie in there or 715 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: not they. 716 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: Win all tie breakers. Let's talk Bearcats. Next up the 717 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl versus Navy in Memphis, Friday, January the second. 718 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: Let's do that with the man from Bearcat Journal Bearcat 719 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: Journal dot com, Chad Brendle. How are you. 720 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 10: Time? 721 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 11: You guys are live from the dispensary tonight. 722 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: Yes, working on scenarios of minuscule opportunities. 723 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: You would be the perfect. 724 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: Person to ask this question because in the last week, 725 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: let's see Bearcat assistant GM Carter Wilson is headed to 726 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: USF according to reports today. The report is a staffer 727 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: is headed to Penn State to be an assistant GM 728 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: Jack Griffith. You as well as anybody, knows the inner 729 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: workings and the importance of a front office structure now 730 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: in college athletics. How significant are these departures for UC football? 731 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 11: Incredibly significant? 732 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 10: But I mean Carter Wilson was in charge of high 733 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 10: school scouting recruiting. He's the guy that you know, essentially 734 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 10: put together the recruiting board for high school recruits, and 735 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 10: Jack Griffith put together the board for the transfer portal. 736 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 10: So you've still got the head of the Snake and 737 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 10: Zach Grant at GM, but his two top lieutenants are 738 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 10: are now headed elsewhere. 739 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 11: So that you know, the Carter. 740 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 10: Wilson one, it hurts, but you just finished your signing class, 741 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 10: so you know you've got time to replace that specific position. 742 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 10: But with Zack Griffith, that's you know, the portal opens 743 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 10: the second and he's been working on that, you know, 744 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,959 Speaker 10: diligently since the portal closed last year. 745 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 11: And to lose him, you know, basically on the. 746 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 6: Eve of the transfer portal. 747 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 10: That's a significant pole to fill and Zak Grant's gonna 748 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 10: have to go find somebody that is equally as adapt 749 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 10: at mining the transfer portal. I mean, we had a 750 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 10: story about it that we talked about on this show 751 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 10: about a month ago, where you know, eighteen of the 752 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 10: twenty one guys they brought in and the transfer portal 753 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 10: populated the too deep and you know also Jake Golden, 754 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 10: Brendan Soresby, and you know guys, guys that were a 755 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 10: big part of this team were part of that transfer 756 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 10: portal process from from Jack and that's a that's a 757 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 10: big hole to fill with the transfer portal about the opens. 758 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 4: And by the way, Chad, I have the Liberty Bawl 759 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: on radio, so I'll be calling you in the next 760 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: week or so to get all your information. Anyway, right, No, 761 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: so the same question, but now let's talk to the 762 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 4: talk about the players. Who is in danger of entering 763 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: the portal. I guess let's start with with Soresby. Is 764 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: a guy that you think is going to stay or 765 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: is he out or what do you think? 766 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 10: And I don't think he's made a decision yet, but 767 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 10: he's going to be a very popular name if he 768 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 10: does there. 769 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 11: Or the transfer portal. 770 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 10: I've heard ballpark numbers and you're talking millions at a 771 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 10: new destination if he chooses to go that route. So 772 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 10: with Cincinnati's financials, I don't know that you know, they 773 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 10: can get all the way up in that ballpark of 774 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 10: what he's going to be looking at. So it's definitely 775 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 10: something that you have to keep an eye on because 776 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 10: you know, if I had to bet you get one 777 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 10: last shot at this to go make a whole bunch 778 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 10: of money, it's going to be really difficult for Cincinnati 779 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 10: to keep him. And you know, they haven't made any 780 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 10: announcements on whether he's going to be at the ball 781 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 10: game or not, but I kind of would be surprised 782 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 10: if he played way things are, you know, where things 783 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 10: stand at the moment. 784 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, and that was gonna be the follow up chatter, 785 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: are they proceeding, How are they proceeding in terms of 786 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: expectations of from Sorsby to Corleone to Royer to gold 787 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: Ay even playing in the Bowl game. 788 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 10: Well, Corleone and Goldey were both pretty beat up by 789 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 10: the end of the season. 790 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 5: Uh. 791 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 10: I think that announcement everybody, you know, why did why 792 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 10: did Dante Corleon announce he was going to the draft 793 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 10: when he was out of eligibility. 794 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 11: I had to guess that was, you know, I'm not 795 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 11: going to be in Memphis, so I wouldn't expect to 796 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 11: see him. 797 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 6: I wouldn't. 798 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 10: I'd be surprised to see golda although gold as kind 799 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 10: of a kind of a machine, it wouldn't shock me 800 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 10: if he wanted to play. But uh, we haven't had 801 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 10: a practice availability yet, so I don't know exactly what 802 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 10: that's going to look like. But you know, you just 803 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 10: lost Christian Harrison, who was one of your best defensive back. 804 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 11: To the transfer portal. I wouldn't expect to see him play. 805 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 10: And ultimately, I mean, you know this as well as 806 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 10: I do, Rocky in this day and age, the last 807 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 10: thing you want to see as your bowl game opponent 808 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 10: is a service academy. 809 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: I was just going to say, this is not exactly 810 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: an ideal matchup, is it? 811 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 6: No? 812 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 11: Because they're not going to have opt outs like those guys. 813 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 11: You know you can leave. 814 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 10: I guess you can leave enter the transfer portal your 815 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 10: freshman and sophomore year, but once you hit your junior year, 816 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 10: like you're locked in. You can't transfer out of the 817 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 10: military academies, so they don't have to worry. 818 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 11: Really about the transfer portal with their roster. 819 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 10: They don't have to worry about whether guys are going 820 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 10: to be locked in for this. So in terms of 821 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 10: kind of worst case scenario of an opponent in today's 822 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 10: day and age, but you really don't want to play 823 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 10: a service academy unless you're in the playoffs. 824 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me squeeze in one the on basketball with 825 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: a trip to Atlanta to take on Georgia. How I mean, 826 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: we know what they've done in non conference, we know 827 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: what's coming in the Big twelve. We I mean, if 828 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 2: we're looking resume building and need to put things on 829 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: the board, I mean, how important is a Saturday opportunity 830 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: against Georgia. 831 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 11: It's critical. 832 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 10: I mean, you can't if you're playing if this is 833 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 10: tournament or bus for Les Miller and you really need 834 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 10: to get over this hump. You've got to have some 835 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 10: wins in this non conference. Now You've got you know, 836 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 10: if you look at ken Pom, Georgia's twenty four, Clemsons 837 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 10: twenty five, so you've got two golden opportunities remaining, yep, 838 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 10: to put some wins on. 839 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 11: The board, but you got to stack them. 840 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 10: You've eliminated any and all leiggle room with the way 841 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 10: things had played out over the first six weeks of 842 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 10: the season. 843 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 11: So for five weeks of the season, whatever it is, 844 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 11: you better start putting some wins on the board. 845 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 10: And that starts Saturday against a team that really good 846 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 10: on offense, really good on defense. They're averaging like ninety 847 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 10: nine points a game. If you look at their you 848 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 10: know their metrics. They're good at pretty much everything. So 849 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 10: this is going to take an incredible effort from Less's 850 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 10: team if they're going. 851 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 6: To get this win. 852 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: All right, Bowl Season, Portal, you name it, the basketball. 853 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. You guys are all over it. 854 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: Lay out what the listeners find at barkad journal dot com. 855 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 10: I mean, if you if you like more information on 856 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 10: the two guys that left, We've got everything up on 857 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 10: the board. Keegan's got a couple of articles up that 858 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 10: covers both of those departs for Cincinnati, and we're getting 859 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 10: you ready for Georgia on Saturday, getting you ready for 860 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 10: Navy on January second, And Rocky, there is good news. 861 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 11: Have you ever done the liberty ball before? 862 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 4: I have yes, a couple of years ago. 863 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 10: So you know that there's Rendezvous barbecue in the press box. 864 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if've ever got any of that, but 865 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 4: I've been to Rendezvous Barbecue a bunch of times, but 866 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 4: not in the press box, but I will. Thanks for 867 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 4: letting me know that it would be good. 868 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 10: Well, maybe it's changed, but the last time we were 869 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 10: at the Liberty Bowl, the press box meal for the 870 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 10: media was Rendezvous barbecue. 871 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice. 872 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 11: If it's not that anymore, you better pull some strings. 873 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 6: Well. 874 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 4: And now they got the construction goaling. So now, because 875 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 4: I did a game at Memphis this year in the 876 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 4: press boxes on the opposite side now or the TV 877 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 4: booth and I assume the radio booth is on the 878 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 4: opposite side of the press box now, So I don't know. 879 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 4: But either way, I will find you, and I will 880 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 4: find Rendezvous barb barbecue and we'll have that. 881 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 10: Are you at Guss's fan, Rocky Gus Guss's Is. 882 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 2: That barbecue. 883 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 10: Chicken I've ever had? 884 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 6: All right? 885 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,959 Speaker 10: All right, is awesome, but Gus is his otherworldly all right. 886 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 2: But by the way, if I could and this will 887 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with sports, but I just thought 888 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: of it, and I hate mentioning other places, but uh, 889 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 2: of all things. Dave Miley, the former Reds manager, reads 890 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 2: my random thoughts and and then he texts me his 891 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 2: random thoughts and he told me that Kelly and I 892 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 2: have to get chicken at Saint Leon Tavern? Do I 893 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: recall correctly? Did when I was at camp one year? 894 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 2: Did you not take me there for chicken? 895 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: Do I? 896 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: Do I remember correctly? Didn't we have lunch there at 897 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: Saint Leon Tavern? 898 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 10: I've been doing this so long, I've had it. And 899 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 10: if you like the peppery Indiana fried chicken like. 900 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 4: That, I think we took you don't well, if you 901 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 4: don't remember, I haven't been there. Did you take me there? 902 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 4: I didn't take it there? How do you remember that 903 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 4: you took me there? I think you took me there 904 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 4: and said you gotta try this. Who else would I 905 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,479 Speaker 4: have gone? 906 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 6: All right? 907 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 10: Nobody, probably because wouldn't take. 908 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 3: Maybe it was cough. No, I think it was you. 909 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 11: I don't know, all right, I mean, I'm not doubting that. 910 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 6: I'm just I've. 911 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,479 Speaker 11: Got I've got a bad memory. 912 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just old, and thank you, sir. We'll talk 913 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 3: next week. 914 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: There you Goad, Brenda Oper Cat Turtle. 915 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 9: I saw that. 916 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 4: You know, that's my favorite thing you do, is the 917 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 4: random talk thing. 918 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's right. 919 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: You reckon it, you said, I absolutely been there. 920 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 4: It's uh all right. 921 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 3: Killers on the list, on the list. 922 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 2: He's Rocky, I'm lancelet Stock Ravens. When we come back 923 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,919 Speaker 2: to Cincinnati. 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Get back in 933 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 2: the Game Today. Yesterday afternoon, Eddie and Rocky talked with 934 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: their good friend Glenn Clark. Glenn Clark Radio covers the 935 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and got perspective on what is going on 936 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: with that Ravens team that is now at six and seven, 937 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: and yet, having said that, Lamar Jackson, if he is Lamar, 938 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: gives them an opportunity. Here's Glenn on what's going on 939 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 2: with the Ravens quarterback. 940 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 12: Yes, the Ravens still have a chance because they do 941 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 12: have Lamar Jackson. And if suddenly on Sun Day in Cincinnati, 942 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson looks like Lamar Jackson again, then they're going 943 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 12: to have a chance to win any game if they 944 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 12: can play, because that's what their organization has been for 945 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 12: the last few years. They've been They've been good teams, 946 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 12: but they've been good teams wildly propped up by Lamar 947 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 12: Jackson being either the best or one of. 948 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 6: The two or three best players in the entire league. 949 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 6: To your point, he. 950 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 12: Hasn't been anything close to. 951 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: That of late. 952 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 12: And it's a complicated story. The offensive line is terrible. 953 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 12: The guard position has been a massive problem. 954 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 6: For the Ravens this season. 955 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 12: They haven't really experimented with trying anything else. I just 956 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 12: continue to stick it out and they're not getting better results. 957 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 12: Then you add to it the number of injuries. The 958 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 12: hamstring injury that cost them three weeks, and then after 959 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 12: he came back, he missed practices with designations to the knee, 960 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 12: the toe, and the ankle, and then today he just 961 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 12: didn't practice again, and the Ravens are just saying, well, 962 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 12: this is just a rest day, and like, you sure, fine. 963 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 12: I mean, he's dealt with a lot of injuries, but 964 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 12: what you've seen on the field has looked like a 965 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 12: team that's needed to have more days working together because 966 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 12: it's just not working. 967 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 6: So could it happen. 968 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 12: I guess it could happen, But he's not been right. 969 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 11: He's just been a shell of himself. 970 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 6: Rock. 971 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,720 Speaker 2: We saw two weeks ago when they played him, Joseph 972 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 2: Osai tracked him down to the sidelines, and there were 973 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 2: other opportunities where it looked like he would normally take 974 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: off seeing an opening, and he just he wasn't willing 975 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 2: and able to do that. 976 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 4: He just doesn't seem to strike the fear at the 977 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 4: hearts of defenders the way he used to have. Just like, 978 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 4: oh my god, we could have everything perfect, but this 979 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 4: guy can just flop and make a play and make 980 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 4: you look stupid in the process. So you know, I 981 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 4: who knows, And maybe injuries get better, but he just 982 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 4: I mean this whole year, He's not quite looked the same. 983 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: Here's one more from Glenn talking about Lamar Jackson the passer, 984 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson the runner, and the balance between that this season. 985 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 3: Take a listener. 986 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 12: This argument has existed for forever that Lamar was going 987 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 12: to have to run less, and as I've said a 988 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 12: million times the injury argument, quarterbacks get hurt in the 989 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 12: pockets statistically more. 990 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 4: Than they get hurt when they're right down field. 991 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 12: And Lamar Jackson in particular, you know, I was so 992 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 12: fast that he never took big hits downfield, like all 993 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 12: of the big hits he took were. 994 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 5: In the pocket because he knew when the hits were coming. 995 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 3: And he avoided them. 996 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 12: He got down or he got out of bounds. So 997 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 12: this has been a really complicated topic that he just 998 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 12: doesn't give clear answers about. And that makes it frustrating 999 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 12: because when he's full Lamar Jackson, he is one of one. 1000 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 12: He is the most unique talent we may have seen. 1001 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 6: In the NFL. 1002 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 12: When he's Lamar Jackson doesn't run, he's still an incredibly 1003 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 12: capable thrower of the football. He's one of the more 1004 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 12: precise throwers of the football. 1005 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 6: In the League in the last couple of years. But 1006 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 6: he's not one of one. He's a good football player. 1007 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 2: Glenn Clark, Glen Clark Radio yesterday, joining Eddie and Rocky. 1008 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about a quarterback here in 1009 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 2: a second, but quickly cover the AFC North. Brought to 1010 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: you by brand setters kangaroof your hometown rooping, guttering, inciting 1011 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 2: experts covering Cincinnati homes for over twenty five years. Visit 1012 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: go Kanga dot net. They hopped to it. Three and 1013 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 2: ten Browns are at the nine and four Bears, the 1014 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: seven and six Steelers on Monday Night Football hosting the 1015 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 2: six and seven Dolphins. Philip Rivers, at age forty four, 1016 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 2: five years removed from his last NFL game, could very 1017 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 2: well start on Sunday for the Colts. 1018 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 3: And I ask. 1019 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: You and you confirmed you clearly played against Philip Rivers, 1020 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 2: and he is clearly sixteen years later, he's the only 1021 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 2: then active player in the NFL you would have played against. 1022 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's the same fishing three times twice 1023 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 4: when he when I was with the Chiefs. But the 1024 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 4: one time that that's the biggest bummer was I don't 1025 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 4: know if this was his rookie year. But it was 1026 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 4: two thousand and seven. In the playoffs, we had a 1027 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 4: first round by we play the Chargers La Danian Tomlinson 1028 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 4: isn't healthy, Philip Rivers isn't healthy. Billy Bullet comes in 1029 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,959 Speaker 4: the game and we somehow lose the most inexplicable loss ever. 1030 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 4: But no, he was. He's a great player. But yeah, 1031 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 4: he is a guy that You're not too many people 1032 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 4: in all of him because I'm talking about the opposing team. 1033 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 4: He can irritant, he is a jerk. But you know, 1034 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: if he was on my team, I would love this. 1035 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 4: I would love this. 1036 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 3: Yes, oh, man, Sunday if he start. 1037 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: And I looked this up to give a little context 1038 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 2: to how long he's been around. He was the fourth 1039 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 2: pick overall in two thousand and four. That year, the 1040 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,280 Speaker 2: Bengals in the first round drafted Chris Perry, running back Michigan. 1041 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 2: That's how long ago Philip Rivers was drafted. That's incredible. 1042 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 2: I mean just saying two thousand and four out loud, 1043 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 2: and he could start on Sunday. 1044 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 4: So the age is one thing, though, but it's the 1045 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 4: fact he hasn't played in five years. Yeah, yeah, And 1046 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 4: I heard I read a comment earlier, and he's probably 1047 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 4: rice and mentally like you know, he's still you know, physically. 1048 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 3: Takes a hit and the speed of the game. 1049 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,399 Speaker 2: And then the wild thing is he runs the same 1050 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 2: offense that the Colts run. He's been longtime friends with 1051 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 2: Shane Steike and the Colts coach and has installed the 1052 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 2: basically the Colts offense in the high school team that 1053 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: he coaches. So it's made it much easier to say, Okay, 1054 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: let's go onto His player's. 1055 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 4: Got to be like, yes, that's so awesome. 1056 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: All right, we come back if you're ready. We'll get 1057 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 2: into some college football. I want to talk maybe Notre Dame. 1058 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 2: I want to talk as much as we can without 1059 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 2: revealing anything. The Heisman and so much more. He's Rocky. 1060 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 2: I'm land Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Roundtable Show. 1061 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: We're at Long next in Wilder. It is presented by 1062 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 2: Postman Law seven hundred WLW. 1063 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 10: Man. 1064 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 2: We are flying tonight, making our way towards eight o'clock 1065 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 2: if you check on New Tuesday eighth, and the West 1066 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 2: Miller Show follows us. We've got Dan Klass before that 1067 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 2: coming up at seven fifty with your fantasy football insight. 1068 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: Let's get into some college football. Let's make it. Let's 1069 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 2: double up here. Let's make it our hot topic, usually 1070 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: around the NFL, but certainly the college football playoffs, the 1071 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,760 Speaker 2: hot topic around football. It's brought to you by Hudson Oil, 1072 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: fueling champions on and off the field, and we'll expand 1073 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 2: on it and make it our Kelsey Chevrolet College Football 1074 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: Weekend preview. 1075 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 3: Trade keys today. 1076 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 2: Whether you're making loan release payments or your vehicle has 1077 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 2: paid off, Kelsey Chevrolet wants to trade keys and put 1078 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 2: you in a new Chevrolet. Check them out together, let's 1079 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 2: drive kelseyship dot com, the home of lifetime powertrain protection. 1080 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 3: All right, Rock, I don't even know where to begin. 1081 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 2: Let's cut to the chase and let's simplify the opening thought. 1082 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: Are we in agreement that Notre Dame got hosed out 1083 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 2: of a playoff spot? 1084 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 4: Yes? Who do you think they got? Who? 1085 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: Alabama is my biggest beef hunter, because to me, Alabama 1086 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 2: hasn't looked like a playoff team for a good month plus. 1087 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 3: You saw them in personal. 1088 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 4: In person, never thought they were one of those juggernaut 1089 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 4: Alabama teams. 1090 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 2: And it just there was so much of that final 1091 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: decision that just doesn't make sense of how Bama's performance 1092 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 2: in the SEC championship game wasn't seemingly weighted, yet BYU's 1093 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: performance in the Big twelve championship game was weighted. And 1094 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 2: and it just it It goes back to just the 1095 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 2: sense that they were making it up. A combination of 1096 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 2: making up it as they went and predetermining who they 1097 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 2: wanted and then figuring out the talking points to explain 1098 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 2: why that team was going. 1099 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 8: To make it. 1100 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 4: I think that's the best way to describe. But yeah, 1101 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 4: getting the results they won. But then, okay, how can 1102 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 4: we get to the logical conclusion that we just made 1103 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 4: up well, Well, in this case, we'll emphasize this is 1104 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 4: being the best criteria, and then this one will say 1105 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 4: that you know, whether its strength and schedule or best 1106 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 4: win best loss. It's a huge mess. 1107 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,280 Speaker 2: Let's let's run through some Notre Dame bullet points because 1108 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 2: we were we both read the the Pete Sampson piece 1109 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 2: from the and I'd be curious of your thoughts as 1110 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 2: a Notre Dame representative to what he said won. The 1111 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: idea of the the value or loss of skipping the 1112 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 2: fifteen ball practices, The idea of skipping the ball, missing. 1113 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 3: Out on ball practices. 1114 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 2: What do you what do you say to those who 1115 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 2: say they took their ball and went home. 1116 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 4: I don't see it that way because as many of 1117 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 4: these other teams are gonna find out that they're gonna 1118 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 4: be missing a lot of players, and so it's not 1119 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 4: gonna be the twenty twenty five Irish that you're going 1120 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 4: to see in any bowl game. It's going to be 1121 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 4: some of those guys and a lot of guys that 1122 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 4: that that weren't that team. So so from that standpoint alone, 1123 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 4: I say, yeah, I understand the situation. And I think, 1124 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 4: you know, there is a time and place in this 1125 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 4: world to take a stand on something and set a precedent, 1126 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 4: and I think they knew that they would set a 1127 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 4: precedent in Asia. 1128 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 3: A couple are things that jumped out from this. 1129 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: I am in total agreement that I thought Notre Dame 1130 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,760 Speaker 2: overplayed its hands scheduling wise in playing Miami in Texas 1131 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: A and m back to back to open the season. 1132 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 2: And I didn't realize that their deputy athletic director is 1133 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 2: Ron Paulus, the former Notre Dame quarterback. That's asking an 1134 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: awful lot of any any team nobody else in the 1135 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 2: country out of the shoot played Miami in Tech And 1136 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 2: it's not an excuse. I'm just saying, that's an awful 1137 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 2: tough ask of a team. 1138 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,479 Speaker 3: You're trying. 1139 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 2: You've lost your defensive coordinator and Al Golden, You've got 1140 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 2: a new, unproven quarterback. There was just a lot to 1141 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 2: ask and to throw that schedule at him. 1142 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 4: So I know college football wants teams to schedule tough 1143 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 4: out of conference games, right because those are the games 1144 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 4: that people want to watch. But in a couple examples 1145 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 4: this year, they have penalized teams for taking those early 1146 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 4: shots and losing. Texas being the other one, yes, against 1147 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 4: Ohio State. So and you know, and that was Steve 1148 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 4: Sarkisian's point. He's like, wait, minute, we took this game. 1149 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 4: We could have taken old dominion and beat them, and 1150 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 4: and but you said, no, we let's take that and 1151 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 4: we won't get penalized for a tougher matchup. Early in 1152 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 4: the season. Notre Dame did the same thing. The fact 1153 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 4: that they did him back to back. Yes, I remember 1154 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 4: saying the time. I was like, oh, what's wrong with 1155 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 4: the Irish. I'm like, well, because most teams in the 1156 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,919 Speaker 4: country are scheduling Mercer Yes for the week weeks one 1157 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 4: and two, and they have two top teams back to back. 1158 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 4: I was a terrible move on their part, especially having 1159 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 4: them that early in the season before your team can develop. 1160 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,479 Speaker 3: No doubt. What do we how do we view? 1161 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 2: One of the other big talking points is what is 1162 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs supposed to be about? 1163 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 3: And is it? 1164 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 2: Is it supposed to include opportunities for somebody like James 1165 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: Madison for example, versus clearly a better team is the 1166 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 2: It's like the NCAA basketball tournament is never the best 1167 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 2: sixty eight because you have a representative from every single conference, 1168 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 2: a small conference. Whatever should the college football playoff be 1169 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 2: simply give me team's rank one through twelve, or should 1170 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 2: there be an opportunity for somebody like a James Madison. 1171 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 4: I think it should be the best twelve teams. You know, 1172 00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 4: I guess because you know Tulane and James mass realistically 1173 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 4: or not gonna win this. 1174 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 6: They're not. 1175 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 4: They're absolutely not going to. And as much as we 1176 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 4: say we like the underdog getting a chance, don't I 1177 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 4: don't know when it plays out. 1178 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 2: If we we don't actually do we don't. I'll give 1179 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 2: you the basketball version of that. When my Butler Bulldogs 1180 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 2: went to the NCAA championship game in back to back years, 1181 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 2: the TV ratings for the championship game the lowest of 1182 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 2: all time because, yeah, they were Cinderella. But people want 1183 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 2: to see blue bloods. They want to see the best 1184 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: teams in the country, and they perceive Butler as like 1185 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: the little team from Indianapolis at Hinkle, and the ratings 1186 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: just tank. We want the best, and I get the 1187 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 2: James Madison argument, but you know, what do you ultimately want? 1188 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 2: Is it the twelve best or is it leave an 1189 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 2: opening for the best group of five? I guess you 1190 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 2: could make it. If you're going to include a group 1191 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 2: of five, they have to be in the time. I 1192 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 2: don't know it. It's very complicated from there. 1193 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, if they would for whatever reason, their schedule and 1194 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 4: who they win and who they beat is puts them 1195 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 4: in there. That's fine. Just back to Notre Dame for 1196 00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 4: in just kind of the future of ball. 1197 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: That's gonna be my next question. But it's the future, well. 1198 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 4: I think it doesn't. It doesn't vode very well. There's 1199 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 4: like a battle between the old way of doing things 1200 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 4: in college football and a new way of going, and 1201 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 4: it seems like the new way is winning out when 1202 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 4: we're paying players. You know, it's a very transactional sport, 1203 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 4: which doesn't coincide with with the bulls. And I gave 1204 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 4: this example on another radio show, what if after the season, okay, 1205 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 4: after the season the NFL playoffs started, he said, you 1206 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 4: know what, the Bengals and the Titans are gonna play 1207 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 4: an exhibition game. Players aren't gonna get paid, okay, and 1208 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 4: it's not gonna be for anything, but it'll be fun. 1209 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 4: I think the players would never do it, no, because 1210 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 4: you know the same reason. Notre Dame Denim will do 1211 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 4: it because like why, And the fans would be like, well, 1212 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 4: wait a minute, we're gonna get hurt, Like it doesn't 1213 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 4: mean anything. So maybe I'll watch it, but I'm not 1214 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 4: that invested in it. This is kind of the same thing. 1215 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Let me give you a crazy idea and out of 1216 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 2: the box, eyde and it's not mine, So if you 1217 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 2: don't like it, feel free. It's Rick Neuheisel. I saw 1218 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 2: lay this out and he said, the Bowl games are 1219 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 2: done as we as we know him. He says, one 1220 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 2: way to reinvent the Bowl games would be to start 1221 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: your season with a bull game. I've heard this idea, 1222 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: and do have how X number of bulget whatever it 1223 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 2: is twenty bowl games and that will match up and 1224 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: to start to kick off. I kind of like it 1225 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of I don't think there's enough celebration 1226 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,439 Speaker 2: of the start of seasons. Baseball does a great thing 1227 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 2: with opening Day in Major League Baseball. I think it'd 1228 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 2: be kind of cool for college football to say opening 1229 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 2: weekend features twenty bowl matchups and this is the kickoff 1230 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 2: of college football. Gather around your TVs and let's go. 1231 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 2: I think there's. 1232 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 3: Something to that. 1233 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 2: I'd have to dig deeper, but on the surface it 1234 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 2: kind of it's an exciting way to start the season. 1235 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 4: I mean, and look, it's all about viewership, right, and 1236 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,959 Speaker 4: you know people enough people still watch the Bulls, which 1237 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 4: is ultimately why they still do them. I think, do 1238 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 4: you see double triple the amount of people would watch 1239 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 4: those balls? 1240 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: And you know what, if you do it at the start, 1241 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the weather's going to be better in all places versus 1242 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 2: games being played in January in some cold places that 1243 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 2: nobody wants to go to. I mean, I could see 1244 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 2: it being set up as travel to see your team 1245 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 2: kick off the season in the x y Z Bowl 1246 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 2: game to kick off college football twenty twenty six. 1247 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 4: I've't even heard about it. You know they have these 1248 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 4: bowl games in the spring. I've heard that float out, 1249 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 4: but I think the beginning of the season week zero, right, Yeah, 1250 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 4: just throw them all right there? 1251 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 2: I think it just it would elevated mony Maker absolutely, 1252 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 2: no question. All right, we solved that problem as much 1253 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 2: as we can say publicly without revealing our vote. There 1254 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 2: are four Heisman finalists. 1255 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 10: We know. 1256 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 2: That's Jeremiah Love, Notre Dame, Fernando Mendoza, IU Diego Pavia 1257 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: of Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt, and Julian Saying of Ohio State. Our 1258 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 2: ballots allow for choices. 1259 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 4: Dude, did you tell everybody we get a Heisman vote? 1260 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? We we do. We Uh, we forget how many 1261 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 2: years we've been voting doing the show? I think, do 1262 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 2: we go back to Lamar Jackson? Have we gone? Do 1263 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 2: we go further back than I remember? I do too, 1264 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, we go back at least to that. 1265 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 2: Here's what I'll ask, because we are not publicly allowed 1266 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 2: to reveal our votes until after the announcement. But and 1267 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: you're allowed three. You go onto the computer, your ballot 1268 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 2: is emailed to you. You have to insert, you have 1269 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 2: to type in physically the full name of the player 1270 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: and the school. First place, second place, third place. Are 1271 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 2: your three selections among the four Heisman finalists? 1272 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 3: Yes, as our mind. 1273 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so. 1274 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 2: That's all we can say. Don't say anything else. I'm 1275 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 2: not even gonna ask you. 1276 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 8: Uh. 1277 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 2: They have revealed tonight the top ten. Jacob Rodriguez, the 1278 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 2: linebacker at Texas Tech, is number five, Jeremiah six Smith 1279 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 2: of Ohio State six, Gunnar Stockton of Georgia seven, Trinidad 1280 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 2: Shambliss of Ole Miss eight, Caleb Downs nine, and Haines 1281 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 2: King of Georgia Tech is tenth. 1282 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 3: So there you go. 1283 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a time out, come back, and 1284 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 2: Dan Klaskins has some fantasy football, and then we'll travel 1285 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Rockies Road. We may need an entirely new full segment 1286 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 2: of Rockies Road based on how many games you have 1287 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 2: coming up. 1288 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 3: Holy cow, He's Rocky on Lance. 1289 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon, Roundtable Show, Long 1290 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Nexs and Wilder presented by Postman Laws seven hundred WLW. 1291 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 2: All right, heading down the stretch, final segment of the 1292 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 2: night the News Top of the Iron, followed by The 1293 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 2: West Miller Show talking some UC bearcats. 1294 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 3: Let's talk fantasy football now. 1295 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Next guest host of Fantistics Insider Football Sirius XM Fantasy. 1296 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 2: That would be Dan Klaskins and Dan. In most leagues, 1297 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 2: fantasy playoffs start this week. I wonder as the kind of. 1298 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 3: Sewer you are. 1299 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 2: Aside from not making the playoffs, what are some of 1300 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 2: the things you dislike most about fantasy football? 1301 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 9: Oh? 1302 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, fantasy playoffs start Lance. Half the league is 1303 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 8: over for them, right, so a lot of bitter people 1304 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 8: out there. We're going to feed into it. Some things 1305 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 8: I hate. 1306 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 6: Let's start with kickers. 1307 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 8: I've been on this crusade to give rid the kickers 1308 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 8: in fantasy for a number of years, and especially if 1309 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 8: the Brandon Aubrey got like twenty five points against me 1310 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 8: last week. There's such a variance there it takes all 1311 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 8: the fun out of it. My least favorite thing is 1312 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 8: in game injuries. In real football, if a player goes 1313 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 8: down the first quarter, a backup comes in and fantasy 1314 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 8: you're left without any stats. I don't know why in Lance, 1315 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 8: in today's age with apps and all the software. We 1316 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 8: can't pick a bench player and have some. 1317 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 6: Sort of rythm. 1318 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,919 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah nothing. 1319 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 8: I also can't stand crappy trade offers. And I don't 1320 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 8: mean to call our friend James ra Payin out, but. 1321 01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:58,919 Speaker 6: He might be the worst. 1322 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 8: He's probably sending me one right now as we speak. 1323 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 8: But man, wasting people's talkings with ridiculous trades. I really 1324 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 8: can't stand people that don't play their league piece. But 1325 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 8: that's just the commissioner coming out of me. And lan's 1326 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 8: probably the thing that really annoys me is free leagues, 1327 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 8: Like why the people playing and why the people ask 1328 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 8: me to play in them? Like, if there's nothing at stake, 1329 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 8: I have no interest. 1330 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 4: That great, Liz, that was a great rant there. I 1331 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 4: love that Dan, good stuff. Bring it all right, let's sell, 1332 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 4: let's do it again your injury. Watch what we got here? 1333 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's start rocking with the big news tonight. Some 1334 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 8: good news for the Bucks and fantasy managers alike Mike Evans, 1335 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 8: he's active from a collarbone injury at the sideline him 1336 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 8: for a couple months. 1337 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:41,959 Speaker 6: Here. 1338 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 8: They also get back Jalen McMillan. 1339 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 9: Now interer at your own risk. 1340 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 8: I do expect Evans to be on some sort of 1341 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 8: limited snap tonight, but he still could offer some good 1342 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 8: Fantasy production As we turn our look towards Sunday. Devon 1343 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 8: Hien the biggest name on the lists. 1344 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 9: He plays on Monday night, so it's not even Sunday. 1345 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 9: We're gonna have to track this one all. 1346 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,959 Speaker 8: Weekend, and it could be something fantasy managers were gonna 1347 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 8: have to have a backup play, which would be tough 1348 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 8: considering he's one of fantasy's best running backs. Drake London 1349 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 8: He's already been ruled out the Falcons wide out for 1350 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 8: tonight's game as well, so he's out probably the rest 1351 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 8: of the season. Good news with Ceedee Lamb. He practiced 1352 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 8: today's still in concussion protocol, but trending in the right direction. 1353 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior's still. 1354 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 8: Not back for the Cardinals, so Michael Wilson will continue 1355 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 8: his really hot streak hopefully rooum of dudes days week 1356 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 8: to week there for the Bears, so don't count on him. 1357 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 9: Garrett Wilson not quite. 1358 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,919 Speaker 8: Back yet from his active status, but the Jets playing 1359 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 8: for now them, I'm not sure sure if he'll come 1360 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 8: off I are, and then of course at quarterback. I 1361 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 8: know you guys already probably talked about Phil Rivers, but 1362 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 8: as Daniel Jones managers are really struggling right now, as 1363 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 8: are the Colts. He's out for the season. Jaydon Daniels, 1364 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 8: he's not playing this week. I don't know if he's 1365 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 8: returning from that elbow issue. 1366 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 9: And the Commanders losing zach Ertz. 1367 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 8: That could be a career ending one for the thirty 1368 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 8: four year old tight end. We'll see, but not the 1369 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 8: end of the season he was open for that's for sure. 1370 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 3: All Right. 1371 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 2: How about our weekly look at studs, duds and sleepers. 1372 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's start with the studs, fellas, and we'll start 1373 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 8: with my favorite. 1374 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 9: Stud of them all, quarterback Jackson Dart. 1375 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 8: I think it's like the third time I've had him 1376 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 8: as a stud. The rookie has a great matchup here 1377 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 8: versus the Commanders. 1378 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 9: I've got him at the number three QB on my 1379 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 9: list overall, which is a lot higher than normal. I 1380 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 9: like the rushing floor. 1381 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 8: I hope our listeners were listening to Lance last week. 1382 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 9: Lance, but I gave him Harold Fan and Junior as. 1383 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 8: A sleeper because he went off for about thirty points. 1384 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 8: He's made his way to the stud status this week. 1385 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,799 Speaker 9: He's my tight end four, right behind McBride's Bowers and Kittle. 1386 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 8: I think he's really connected with Shadura Sanders and the 1387 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 8: top target in that Browns passing attack. I'm sitting justin 1388 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 8: Herbert this week. I'm a little scared at that hand 1389 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 8: that cast plus the Chiefs matchup at aarrawhead a tough defense. 1390 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 8: He's outside of my top fifteen and Brian Thomas Junior 1391 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 8: hits a guy. Probably one of the biggest busts of 1392 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 8: the season was a pick on the end of the 1393 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 8: first round. In most leagues, he hasn't scored more than 1394 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 8: excuse me, I had a cop more than three catches 1395 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 8: in a game since Week eight. So he's on my 1396 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 8: bench and my sleepers of the week. What he marks, 1397 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 8: I like him. Seventeen plus touches. 1398 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 9: In five straight games. 1399 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 8: Arizona has given up the fourth most fantasy points. The 1400 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 8: running backs and Juwan Jennings don't dig the PPR points 1401 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 8: at four of his last five. Tennessee's allowed seventeen receivers 1402 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 8: to hit double digit PPR points this season. Jennings becomes 1403 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 8: the eighteenth this week. 1404 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 2: Fellas all right Fantasy season winding down over for some 1405 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 2: does not have to be. There's the Do Good Fantasy 1406 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 2: Salary Cap challenge. If listeners have been waiting to join, 1407 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 2: now is the time tell them more. 1408 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1409 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 8: Well, I appreciate that, Lanthon. Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, 1410 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 8: and you know veterans need our help. A great time 1411 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 8: to give you got ten bucks. That's we dropped it 1412 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 8: all the way down, a ten dollar donation. The DAV 1413 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 8: dav helped a million veterans a year through free programs 1414 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 8: and services, but we rely on the public. 1415 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,520 Speaker 9: So if your season's over you need some fantasy. 1416 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 8: Action, I've got the game for you. Ten hour donation 1417 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 8: it Do Good Fantasy. It all goes to our veterans. 1418 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 8: You get to play four weeks salary cap, pick a lineup. 1419 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 8: I got over three thousand dollars in prizes, so you 1420 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 8: can play with purpose, you can. 1421 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 9: Learn more, help me out. Help that turns out. 1422 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 8: Go to Do Good Fantasy dot Com. 1423 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely great catching up as always, enjoyed the football this weekend. 1424 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,640 Speaker 8: Yes, enjoy the game as fellas, and stay. 1425 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 9: Warm out there. 1426 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 3: Amen to that. 1427 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, Thanks Dan, Dan Glaskins with fantasy football. Let's 1428 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 2: wrap it up with the Rockies Road. We travel it 1429 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 2: and it's brought to you by Queens City Metro. Metro 1430 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 2: is hiring a play at go dash metro dot com 1431 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 2: slash careers. You have how many games and you mentioned 1432 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 2: radio as well? How many total bowl games? 1433 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 10: Do you have? 1434 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 4: Five total? By postseason bowl games in like thirteen days? 1435 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 4: Start twenty second with a Vocal Bowl, then the twenty 1436 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 4: seventh Military Bowl, and then the thirtieth of Music City Bowl, 1437 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,799 Speaker 4: and then the second the Liberty Bowl, and the fourth 1438 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 4: of the D three National Championship. Really this year? 1439 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 6: Really? Yeah? 1440 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,560 Speaker 4: All right, for I'll get you tickets. 1441 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 3: Wow, that's very nice. Okay, So uh let's say the 1442 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 3: Music City that's uh, that's. 1443 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 4: Nashville, right, yes, Nashville. 1444 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 2: It's Liberty Gold Tennessee in Illinois, Tennessee and Illinois. Where 1445 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,040 Speaker 2: do where's your first one? 1446 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:12,879 Speaker 4: You said? FOCA? 1447 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 3: Oh o, very nice. 1448 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 4: Played at fau's home field there for what it's called. 1449 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,560 Speaker 4: But it's nice down there. 1450 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,639 Speaker 3: And you get the Bearcats for your radio game? 1451 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? Do you? 1452 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 3: I forget? Do you do a radio Bowl game every year? 1453 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 4: I had? I didn't last year, but I have in 1454 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 4: the past. I've usually gotten like two TV and one 1455 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 4: radio and this year it's three TV and two radio. 1456 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 4: All right, yeah, I have some presents for the kids. Lance, 1457 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 4: Is that what I'm getting? The extra Bowl games? 1458 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 10: Oh? 1459 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,719 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Oh, I say, yes. 1460 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 2: You know what's funny as you say presence it is 1461 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 2: it still a thing do? And I guess with n 1462 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 2: I l it's it's no longer a thing when you 1463 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 2: used to go as players, you go into the suite 1464 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 2: and you had X amount of gift card dollars to 1465 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 2: buy like headphones and everything else. 1466 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 4: Players are getting paid, Like I say, has that. 1467 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Gone away or do they still do it? 1468 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 4: Or that has been They used to be the big 1469 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 4: thing that That has been my argument for why players 1470 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 4: don't care about the ball games. I remember in two thousand, okay, 1471 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 4: we were in line to go to the Fiesta Bowl, 1472 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,559 Speaker 4: which we made, and we were so excited because we're 1473 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 4: gonna get like five hundred dollars in swag and you 1474 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 4: just walk into the suite and you pick you pick 1475 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 4: out what I think they actually they gave us a 1476 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 4: Duffel bag okay with you know and had like you know, 1477 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 4: the Fiesta Bowl logos sewn on, and it was cool 1478 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,719 Speaker 4: when inside was but like the first like the first 1479 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 4: generation Bow's noise canceling had no so and you would 1480 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 4: have thought we died and went to heaven over five 1481 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 4: hundred dollars in free swag. Now these players are getting 1482 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 4: paid thousands of dollars a week, and I don't care 1483 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 4: about another reason why the balls don't mean as much 1484 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 4: to the players. 1485 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of that, and I guess we're never going 1486 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 2: to get around with this because I mentioned last week. 1487 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,920 Speaker 2: Keep this story because we talked about it this week. 1488 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 2: But the baseline rate, according to the Athletic for a 1489 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Power four quarterback starts at rough lay one hundred thousand 1490 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 2: to three hundred thousand. Five star quarterbacks are getting seven 1491 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand, maybe a million. And the reports 1492 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 2: around Brendan Soresby is he has a deal, multiple deals 1493 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood of four million dollars to leave. 1494 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 3: You see different times, rock Worth living. 1495 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 4: In different times, but we're in one way. In some ways, 1496 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 4: we're trying to do the same thing and wondering why 1497 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 4: it ain't worth. 1498 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we're done. It's been a good night, 1499 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 2: very well executed. Fran hit the flash on every picture 1500 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 2: he took tonight, right, out of the gate. Does not 1501 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 2: get any better than that. We upped our game tonight. 1502 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 2: His lovely wife, Phyllis, wants to make it clear she 1503 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 2: was not listening talking to somebody on the phone and 1504 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 2: ignoring us. She was actually listening to us on the 1505 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 2: iHeart radio as it got loud in here because this 1506 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,679 Speaker 2: place was packed. 1507 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 3: So there you go. Wanted to set the record straight. 1508 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Successful night, Have. 1509 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,679 Speaker 3: A great night, everybody. 1510 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with this stick around. 1511 01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 3: The West Miller Show is next. 1512 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 2: This is the Cincinnati Tax Resolution power by tope shown 1513 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 2: and roundtable showing long necks and wilder presented by Postman 1514 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Law seven hundred WLW