1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Fan Welcome back nine to noon, Nordowen for Pa and 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: joining us now from four Myers Twins Daily dot Com 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: gleaming in the Geek podcast. Longtime Fan family member John 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Bonus is here with me. How you doing, Johnny? 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. How are you doing, Nordo? 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Very well, very well, And I appreciate you on short 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: notice giving me a little bit of time this morning. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I just want to, of course, just start with the 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: news of the day here Pablo Lopez. You know, a 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: few hours ago, it's feeling like, okay, this is maybe precautionary, 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's nothing we shall see. And now the news 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: coming out that season ending surgery maybe on the table 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: or is on the table. Where are we at with that? John, 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of shocking news. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: There is the exact quote was a strong likelihood. But 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: those are the tours the Jeremy's all put in there. 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: They're going to get a second opinion. But there is 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: a other quote was significant tear in his attendant, and 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: so yeah, it's not looking good. You know. Pablo talked 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: a little bit about the process of getting a second 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: opinion and know what that was about, and essentially he said, 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, an experience to try and clear it 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: up any grey area, whether or not there's any possibility 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: of trying to pitch through this or not. But it 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: sounds real unhopeful. That sounds like it's especially kind of 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: given the timing on this. Yeah, this is you know, 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: if you got to he's under contract for twenty twenty seven, uh, 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: and so you know this is a twelve to fifteen 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: month general you know, recovery period. That would you know, 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: if he were to undergo the knife right now, he 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: might be available. That would be the first year after 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery. That can sometimes be a little tricky too, 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: but you know, he would be available potentially at the 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: beginning of next year. But you know, if they try 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: to play through something like this, they try to do 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: a more conservative approach, uh, you know, then it could 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, potentially cost him. You could be ineffective this 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: year and then absent from a second hand of the 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: year and absent for next year as well. And so 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: as everybody's sort of on the same page that you know, like, 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: like I said, those words were a strong likelihood that 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be undergoing today. 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: And it's just devastating, isn't it John, when you think 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: about everything that this team has gone through over the 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: last year, and you got Fouvee leaving and all of that, 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: the fires sale, and you're trying to cling to names. Right, 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: It's like, at least we still got Joe Ryan, at 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: least I can go watch Buck and Royce Lewis as 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: a hitting coach now so pumped about him. Just a 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: healthy brother, and we got Pablo. We have we have 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: some things upon which, despite maybe not being competitive, but 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: what we can put something on the field. This is 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: absolutely devastating. 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was some there's a bit awesome 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: discussion about, you know, the changes in leadership here and 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: Buck talked a little bit about it from a player's standpoint, 57 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: how nice it was to have Ryan and Lopez and 58 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: him and Bailey Ober and g Ryan Jeffers back to 59 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: sort of be a core around this team. But there's 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: also been a whole whole seat change of changes at 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: the leadership level. We've got a new own, we've got 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: a new head of baseball operations, we've got a new manager. 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: And what yesterday was in the morning was a team 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: embracing that. You know, they had a you know, the 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: sort of kickoff speech by Derek Shelton and then something 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: that's unusually had a kickoff speech by Tom pole D. 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: And you know my understanding, the players were really really 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: excited about this season and about the expectations that in 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: particularly you know, Tom pole D is thrusting upon this 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: team in terms of being competitive. And Pablo Lopez in 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: his press conference that we just came out and said, 72 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: you know, it was for him, it was like going 73 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: from one hundred to zero. Yeah, you know that quick. 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: You know the you know what, on that opening day 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: when with hitters report, they open up the stadium down 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: here like em the rest of the days, you know, 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: you can go and watch people on the fields and 78 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: so on, and there's areas that you can watch the 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: players and so on. But on opening day they have 80 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: an open house. They opened up the concessions. All the 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: concessions are half priced. They've got a big crowd around here. 82 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: And the big thing that you see for the first 83 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: time is just see live VP. That means you've got 84 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: cood twins pictures facing twins hitters. You can have Pablo 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: Lopez facing Byron Buxton, right, and one of those first 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: pitchers out there was gonna be Pablo Lopez, and you know, 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: midway through his first live VP session on day one 88 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: of full camp, he has to cut it short, and 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: a little bit later he gets the MRI and now 90 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: he goes for the season strong likelihood of out for the. 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Season, strong strong likelihood. 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it is a gut punch. There's no question is 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: a gut punch. Exactly when this team and frankly, this 94 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: organization does not need that gut punch. 95 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: I just you know, and you you mentioned it briefly 96 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: there as part of that. That just kind of the 97 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: overview of what lays before us. Now, I do wonder 98 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: how this resonates in the locker room though, I mean 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: just in in in the dressing in the clubhouse moving 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: forward kind of, I mean just having to endure that 101 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: finding optimy is Tom Pole Lad standing there giving a 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: great conversation. Everyone's like, all right, you know, it's like 103 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: the seventh Pole Lad, I've been looking up to over 104 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: the last decade. But okay, Tom, the new guy, let's 105 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: let's go. I guess he's hands on and and now 106 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: this happened. Just how that resonates to the clubhouse, that's brutal. Man. 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: Well, we're about to go into the clubhouse and they'll 108 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: also get Shelton's thoughts on it as well. But you know, 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: just talking amongst people, of course, it was sort of like, 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: by I hope they're learning this news from somebody else, 111 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: because the last thing we want, is beat reporters, is 112 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: to go in there and tell people, oh, yeah, your 113 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: your ace is out for the year. We would we would, 114 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: we would, We like to like to get their reaction 115 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: from it from after they've heard the bad news from 116 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: some other source, because yeah, it is terrible news now, 117 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's terrible news for it's also you know, 118 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: some opportunity for some of the younger pitchers. The one 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: thing that you know came out of last year was 120 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: they didn't have Lopez for a long stretch of last year, 121 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: and they didn't have Bailey over at his best for 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: most of the year. And as a result, what they 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: found was that the pitching depth that they thought they 124 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: had wasn't quite as deep as they wanted to be. 125 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: And so they went out and made a couple of 126 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: trades at the trade deadline to acquire some other you know, 127 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: ready for the majors type pitchers. And so we thought 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: we were going to have a four man competition for 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: one spot in the rotation. Those four people being Zebbie 130 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Matthews David Festa. Those are the two that were already 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: with the organization and high expectations last year and didn't 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: really didn't really thrive last year. But then also the 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: new guys they acquired, which is Tied Bradley and mckabel 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: Tis Bradley from the Rais and Mickabel from the Phillies. 135 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: We thought we were going four guys competing for one spot. 136 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Now it looks like we're four guys competing for two 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: and that they will be joining. We think Joe Ryan 138 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: the top of the rotation. Bailey Ober hopefully he seems 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: to be, you know, recovering nicely from the hip injury 140 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: that he devastated his twenty twenty four season a twenty 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: twenty five season, and Simeon was Richardson who also showed 142 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, the steady hand for the last two years 143 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: and a lot of real promise with a new splitter 144 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: in August and September last year. So it doesn't it's 145 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: not a death knell for the starting pitching, but you 146 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: starty pitching could still be very good. But because there's 147 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: so many other questions about the team. 148 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Storry. 149 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: Pitching has to be great. Yeah, and you just lost 150 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: your ears. 151 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: You just lost him wowe well strong, strong likelihood as 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: as as as of this particular moment. Thank you so much. Man, 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to direct people. You already got content up. 154 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: It looks like on Twins Daily about this. I appreciate 155 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and short order. You're headed into the clubhouse here momentarily. 156 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: We'll continue to of course follow you for for updates 157 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: is this unfolds anytime. 158 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: We'll probably be also dropping an emergency podcast on pitching 159 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: and probably in the next hour between Aaron Cleland and I, 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: so we'll give you you want an hour of depressing 161 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez talk. Make sure you go out there and 162 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: sign up right now. 163 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks as always, man, I'll catch up with you soon. 164 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: That's John Bonus Twins Daily. Wow. He he was on. 165 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: He jumped on with the Power Trip I think earlier 166 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: today and it was kind of like, all right, well, 167 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't great that he left midway through through Live 168 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: BP yesterday. That's not preferred, but you know, maybe it's precautionary. 169 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: We'll see. 170 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: There may have been an MRI last night. Maybe there's 171 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: one happening today, the significant tear in the elbow and 172 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: a strong likelihood that he will have season ending injury. 173 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: And Bonus nailed it, of course, So make sure you 174 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: tune into Gleaming and the Geek their emergency Patreon podcast 175 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: with as he mentioned, more depressing commentary on this injury. 176 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: What a freaking disaster, I mean, what a disaster the 177 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: last not just today as it pertains to on the field, 178 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: but just how this thing has gone. Really going back 179 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: to the day that the Twins were eliminated from the 180 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: playoffs in twenty twenty three, what a freaking disaster this 181 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: thing is that stinks. Man, Pablo great dude in here, 182 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: got the I didn't get them meet him, but I 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: heard him play in the initials game. He's been a 184 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: somewhat not regular but we've had him on at least 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: a handful of times. When we do we do the 186 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: bit with the Twins and we passed around the phone. 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: We love doing that and with the cold call, the 188 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: cold calls that we've done. But get to know Mick Abel, 189 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: get to know Tadj Bradley, and get to know a 190 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: very different looking Twins pitching staff. In twenty twenty six. 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: So that's the fresh news courtesy of John Bonus and 192 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: of course widely reported. I So Gleaming of the Athletics 193 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: has some content on it as well, so follow them 194 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: for all the updates. But Pablo Lopez that elbow might 195 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: be over for twenty twenty six and then consequently part 196 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty seven his final year under contract with 197 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the Twins due to this injury. So we'll break here, 198 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: we'll come back. 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I didn't know this was going 209 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: to be part of it. Just kind of messing around 210 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: with Saucy at the open of the show, just to 211 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: you know again the Vike and it's it's kind of 212 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: proved out with these talkbacks today. I appreciate all of them, 213 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's really you can you can kind of 214 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: talk yourself into any name in terms of what the 215 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Vikings might do in terms of raising the level of 216 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback room and what that what that looks like. 217 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Even I saw a TEX six four six eighty six, 218 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. People are done with JJ after ten bleeping starts. 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm not done with JJ. But in terms of raising 220 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: the level of the quarterback room, what does that mean? 221 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: And the broad spectrum of what they can do if 222 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: if we're told after many camps and as the spring 223 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: continues on here that there is an incredible amount of 224 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: faith and support around the growth of JJ McCarthy and 225 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: he ends up being the starter week one. I'm all 226 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: good with that. I just need to see it. He 227 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: wasn't on the field enough in twenty twenty five, and 228 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: a lot of what we saw on the field wasn't 229 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: good enough. And then there was kind of that just 230 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: kind of that blip in the course of his starts 231 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, we're onto something here. Dallas and 232 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: a couple other games. You know, the way that he 233 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: handled business at the Lions when he returned from injury. 234 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: There were some good moments with McCarthy, a lot of turnovers, 235 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of bad moments. So if, if, if they 236 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: want to, if if they roll into it to week 237 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: one with JJ McCarthy, I still have to trust that 238 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: he's proven the things that we don't get to see, 239 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: that he's proven those things out, that he's ready to 240 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: do it. And again, that is the best option. That's 241 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the best of any of these options in any of 242 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: these names, is that it's going to be uh JJ McCarthy. 243 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: The other texts uh Clayton in Rochester, this must have 244 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: been Bonus must have had a preposterous statement at one 245 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: point about Otani. He did it was one. Yeah, now 246 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: because Clayton texts in now that we're down a starting pitcher, 247 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: is their room for for Otani on the Twins roster? Yes, 248 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: technically I think that's they are. They are looking at 249 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: that potentially ask yeah, I ask Bonus if you still 250 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: think so Tani doesn't fit another text message here it 251 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: is now. 252 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: I'll just you know, On the one hand, pitching has 253 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: been pretty good, and I'm not saying they can't add 254 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: that much better, but they're not saying that, like they're 255 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: not saying there, with a good lord, we have either 256 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: him or you know, Dylan Bundy taking up the fifth 257 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: spot in the rotation. 258 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Right, it's not that. 259 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: And from a hitting standpoint, well know, he's been doing 260 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: a lot of dhing. We've got bucks to the DH 261 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: right now. He's not moved to center field. We don't 262 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: know if he's gonna be moving this inunerfield. So it's 263 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: also not like an ideal fit. 264 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: An ideal fit, oh yeah, just well, you know, the 265 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: best players to ever play the game not a fit 266 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: for the Twins. 267 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: Bonus uh, I mean that's not no offense to John Bonas, 268 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: but that isn't nearly as preposterous as some of the 269 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: idiotic things that I've uttered on these airwaves. And I'm 270 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: sure pragmatically he thinks that O'tanma would fit just nicely. 271 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: We would appreciate having him on this team. But that 272 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: goes back to that that money conversation that we were 273 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: having earlier, just trying to envision because I'm like you, 274 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I want players to make I want I want them 275 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: to make that money. Go get it. The league exists 276 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: because of the entertainment that you provide fans. It ain't 277 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: the owners. I mean the owners. The owners pony up 278 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: the front cash and they give you a place to play. Sure, 279 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: but people will go to watch the players. I don't 280 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: have a pole aad. You know, there aren't many pole 281 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: add jerseys rolling around, but there are some Buxton jerseys 282 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: and there are maybe signs with pole add on it. Yeah, 283 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: but I think then they're just kicked out of this. Yeah, 284 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: if they get kicked out of the stadium when they 285 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: have those signs. Depending upon the mood, maybe that X 286 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: y Z person the subject of that sign might be in. 287 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: But let me see here about this talk back. 288 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: Tan Nortle. You can tell the hosts on the fan 289 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: that you know, the Twins should spend more money on 290 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 5: ballplayers who shoop with their feet up all season and 291 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 5: don't play. So Lopez might be the Lakes the curse. 292 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: He's only played one of the last three seasons. So 293 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: these guys have spent way way more money money than 294 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: they ever should have for a bunch of ballplayers who 295 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: don't play. And by the way, they traded away a 296 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: bullpen that was terrible, gave away ninth inning leads like crazy, 297 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: gave away inherited runners like crazy. 298 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: They did the right thing. Is that one of the 299 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: pole ads using the talkback machine, let me see here 300 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I can find probably not check the email I was expecting, 301 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: like tpole ad at Twins dot com, they did the 302 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: right thing. I actually, I mostly I would agree with that. 303 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: When you're looking at the fire sale that took place, 304 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: there are two things to it. Functionally, you can understand, 305 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, you have that hometown connection to Louis Varland, 306 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: who you would eventually see pitching in the in the 307 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: World Series. But to that end, I mean, ultimately you're 308 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: not You're not looking at a lot of long term 309 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: stability that you lost during that fire sale. I think 310 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: the implication, it's the implication of the fire of of 311 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: what the fire sale meant may mean moving forward that 312 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I think struck some people and created quite a stir 313 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: more talkbacks. 314 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 6: I fell in love with baseball at six years old, 315 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 6: and my son is now six and I'm trying to 316 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 6: get him to be interested in baseball, and the Twins 317 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 6: being so incredibly bad makes it so difficult for him 318 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: to get into because there's no player to hang on 319 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: to there's no fun at the at the stadium. It's 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 6: it's sad, and it makes it makes it real difficult 321 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 6: to watch. 322 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the talkback. I feel that I don't know, man, 323 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: when I was six, you're a little bit younger than me, Brett. 324 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: When I was six, I had no concept of what 325 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: being good or bad in terms of a sports team, Like, 326 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what, Like I didn't feel so six. 327 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know, let's let's let's make it 328 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: even like eight. For instance, post so post World World 329 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: Series ninety one, I was really excited when I watched 330 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: the Twins win the World Series. But I I but 331 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't really articulate to you what that truly meant emotionally. 332 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: And then similarly, even through through a large part of 333 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: the nineties where there were some very very lean years 334 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: as a Twins fan, I wasn't sitting around thinking about 335 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: how bad it was. I loved going to the Metrodome 336 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties just to be there. There's just there. 337 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: There was kind of and I mean, it's the Dome, 338 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: it's stuff. Yeah, I get I get all that, but 339 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: just at a base level, just connecting, you know, bright 340 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: lights on it. Watching again, these these pros do it 341 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: at a high level. Even again, if in the context 342 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: of a high level, the Twins were one of the 343 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: worst teams in Major League Baseball. When I was that age, 344 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: I just wanted to steal a piece of it, steal 345 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: a moment of it day even about being Pucket, love 346 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: knoblock in the nineties, all those sorts of things like 347 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: I so and maybe that's the that's the case now 348 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: as an adult, where maybe it's not fun. I love 349 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: going to target field. Target Field is an elite venue. 350 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Sadly the beers are not one dollar, but I have 351 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: no control over that. But but to that end, like 352 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I just I needed to 353 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: be close to it. So I didn't really feel like 354 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: as a as a as a young fan, I don't 355 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: think I had the emotional wherewithal to connect to Well, 356 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: he's only batt in two forty, Well that was a 357 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: terrible throw like that, that guy's wearing my favorite team's 358 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: name on their jersey. I was in love with that person, 359 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: regardless of what was going on. Now, as I have 360 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: gotten older, of course, the bitterness has found its way 361 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: into the mix. Not enough of some people. But as 362 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: a kid, there was the innocence there. It was a 363 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: game being played, and hey, that guy that I watch 364 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: on TV down a man Cato, I'm now seeing him 365 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: seventy five feet from me down on the field. This 366 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: is unbelievable, this is magical. That's kind of how I 367 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: looked at it as a kid. So I mean, not 368 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: every kid's the same, I suppose, but yeah, I don't. 369 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know when it becomes apathy, how much 370 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: maybe we as adult sports fans can impact those that 371 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: are younger. But but there's got to be a build up, 372 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: a period where you just love it because you're close 373 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: to it, and then you find out that they're the twins, 374 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: and then maybe you move on to something else. So 375 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: but I hope he finds the next time they're at 376 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: the park. I get it. It can be difficult. I 377 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: get it. But I love bringing my kids there. My 378 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: kids have no idea what's going on. They just want 379 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: the helmet, ice cream Sunday thing, and they love sitting 380 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: in the sunshine. And anytime something good's happening and the 381 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: crowd starts cheering there, they're on. 382 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: Fire or for you and you're a kid dome dog. 383 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: Let's go in there and get that call today. I've 384 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: had I've had a number of those. I've had too 385 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: many dome dogs in my day. 386 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think dome dogs do they 387 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: have an expiration date? Probably? Probably you don't want to 388 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to test it. That's what I hear 389 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: of the legend of the dome dog. I hear that 390 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, it's it's finding, you know, just 391 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: loving it and then but but then keeping that and 392 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: I do agree over the course of time, that's that's 393 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: part of the conversation. You start to feel it. You 394 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: feel that apathy if you start and when that comes in, 395 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: how do you how do you get rid of that? 396 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: You almost need some sort of That's why I think 397 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: people were really excited a year ago when you heard, hey, 398 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: maybe there'll be new owners, they're going to sell the 399 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: team and so away. If you've been apathetic for a 400 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: long time, it's not just even that they might be 401 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: playing better. You you would need something striking to happen 402 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: and ownership change. If if that's where you would you 403 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: would put a lot of your eye or over the 404 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: course of time, and then it didn't happen. I was like, okay, 405 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: well you're selling off after team. You said you were 406 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: going to sell the team and then you didn't. I'm out. 407 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of that sentiment at 408 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: the time, and sadly you're going to the ballpark to 409 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about guys that you can get excited about. 410 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez one of those guys, and it sounds like 411 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: there is a strong likelihood that he won't be there 412 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: this year. Good morning, Nordo, Hey d Florence, Texas. I 413 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: got one for you. A fan favorite of the Minnesota Vikings, 414 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: Kyle Sloter. It wouldn't hurt. He's better than JJ McCarthy. 415 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Just my two cents. I have a fabulous day school. 416 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Who you want to talk about? Oh this is this 417 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: is a fun time of year kind of dream weaving 418 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: in various things and we do it again. The emotional 419 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: side of me is going to try and tell you 420 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: that Cam Danceler might be something different than what we 421 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: all see with our eyes. What's tough and Kyle Kyle 422 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: Sloter preseason superstar, no doubt about it. But you know 423 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. JJ is going to be the 424 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: starter Week one, So we're going to talk about Burrow. 425 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: I only bring I bring Burrow up. I saw one 426 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: article this is probably a month ago now, somebody mentioning 427 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: just because if you listen to his press conferences kind 428 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: of down the stretch of the season, you know a 429 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: little mysterious, a little contemplative or you know, introspective at times. 430 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: Does he want to be here? Does he not want 431 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: to play? Does he not want to play for the Bengals? 432 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: Does he not want to play pro football? What's going 433 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: on with that? And it is these he talks about 434 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: his kind of his injuries like this is tough man, 435 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: like you want to be out there and you just 436 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: keep stubbing your toe and for him some that could 437 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: be a literal thing. But between the hand, he's got foot, 438 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: he's got these other things, the knee is rookie season. 439 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Does he want to play? So now you know Joe Burrow. 440 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: It's like, well, if he was to leave the city 441 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: and go somewhere, they make that connection JJ justin Jefferson's here. 442 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: I use that name. But you kind of build in 443 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: this time if you I can get irresponsible with it 444 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: where you start dream weaving and thinking about these scenarios 445 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: and you kind of do the build up to the breakdown. 446 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: So when Twins fans heard that the pole Ads were 447 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: going to sell the team, there was a lot of 448 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: people that are very excited about it, right. There were 449 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: party hats, they ordered a cake, they built, you know, 450 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: we got noisemakers, the whole thing, and you're ready to 451 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: cut the cake. And then they put that statement out Surprise, 452 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: we're staying no. So I feel like in some ways 453 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying I'm going to try to be a little 454 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: more a little more responsible this offseason where I'm not 455 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: going to build up completely insane or not insane ideas. 456 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: We don't know, right, got to keep an open mind, 457 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: but you can build yourself up. It's like, okay, well 458 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: to firsts. You know, you're like on Madden setting up 459 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: a trade then and they accepted it. Burrow for a 460 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: couple of first you said, McCarthy, maybe you get Jake 461 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: Browning back here, Uh, some sort of thing as a backup. Basically, 462 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: just swap QB rooms with a couple of firsts on 463 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the side they need to replace, uh, they need to 464 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: replace Hendrickson and all this, and it's just gonna work perfectly. 465 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: You build yourself up to that, and then you know 466 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. It's gonna be JJ McCarthy and Zach Wilson. 467 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be JJ McCarthy and Zach Wilson. That's what's 468 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Or you're gonna see uh, you're gonna see 469 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Brett Rippon picked up again, John Woolford, you're gonna see 470 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: you might see the or hey, seven oh one, you're 471 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: gonna see Carson Wentz again. Building yourself up. You gotta 472 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: be responsible with it because you don't know how it's 473 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna go. But watch out for that. Don't let your 474 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: hearts be broken. You've been open mind, stay grounded over 475 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: the course of this thing. Oh it's mid February and 476 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: we're just throwing out names. There's so many names. Carr 477 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: coming out of retirement, Tyler Murray, seeing reports that McCarthy 478 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: can't throw over the middle, Well, that's kind of a problem. 479 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: Got Tua tua two until you're satisfied wherever he is. 480 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: And then he got Zach Wilson, you got Russell Wilson, 481 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: you got famous Jamis. But list goes on. It's a 482 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: tough year for needing a QB or do we need one? 483 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: You can spend this thing in a hundred different directions. 484 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. What never stops the enigmatic nature 485 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: of our favorite football team? The best option? He was 486 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: drafting the guy and then he works out, can JJ 487 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: do that? You need to ponder that endlessly, endlessly, segment 488 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: after segment after segment, nine to noon, Pa back in 489 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: the chair tomorrow, endlessly until we get an answer. Joe Burrow, 490 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Zach Wilson. Just don't you know, Just don't 491 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: write that off again. Get excited, stay grounded. Final segment 492 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: and a couple more talkbacks. Talker Tuesday, brought to you 493 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: by Northern Fire Grilling and Barbecue Supply. 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But if we do 504 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 7: the retreads, the Jamis Winstons, the Kirk Cousins, the Derek Carrs, 505 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 7: it's gonna be status quo. We're gonna win nine to 506 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 7: ten to eleven games have a playoff game exit like 507 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 7: let's go. 508 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Let's go ups Man. Ups Man is the tastiest talkback 509 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: of the day on a Talker Tuesday, brought to you 510 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: by Northern Fire Grilling and Barbecue Supply. So, mister ups Man, 511 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: you'll be receiving a twenty five dollars gift card for 512 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: Northern Fire. You can shop online Northern firebbq dot com, 513 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: or you just go into store. 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It's just that's again. 524 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: It's it's a perfect name to illustrate your point, though. 525 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: It's a quarterback that has been in the league, was 526 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: never really good. He had moments of being horrendous, but 527 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: at times potentially serviceable. And that's what the market is 528 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: right now, unless you want to go get Joe Burrow. 529 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: I agree with I agree with that. Watching the Checks 530 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: and the Danes in hockey right now. I mean, as 531 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: we're as we're spending a talker Tuesday talking about something 532 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: that none of us will find an answer to for 533 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: at least a few weeks, and maybe not at all 534 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: as far as the Vikings are concerned. Moving forward, what 535 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: that thing looks like, We're gonna have to wait a while. 536 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: We have hockey. We got the ladies in the gold 537 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: medal game. We got the United States facing the Winter 538 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: the men, excuse me, facing the winner of Sweden and Latvia. 539 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: Are you feeling Sweden like? Is it just the obvious answer? 540 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I think it is. 541 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have struggled the times, but I think Latvia 542 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: they did pulling up set against Germany. But I just 543 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: think the Swedes are too skilled that eventually the skill 544 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: is going to take over. 545 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: Which is the worst. 546 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I have all the teams coming out of 547 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: this play in tournament, you know, play in round to 548 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: get into the quarterfinals. That to me is the worst 549 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: because Sweden dropped so many games they had to play 550 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: in this part of the tournament. That's the worst matchup 551 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: the US could have possibly got is getting Sweden in 552 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: an elimination game just to make it to the semifinals. 553 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 3: So it stinks. But so yeah, I guess go Latvia. 554 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: But if Latvia beat Sweden, then that means they're a 555 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: good team as well. But the US rold done the 556 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: first time they played. What about Canada and what appears 557 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: to be the Czechs. I mean, I think the Czechs 558 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: are a solid team as well. They're definitely a tier 559 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: below Sweden in my opinion, definitely a tier below Finland. 560 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it was the four nations face off for reason. 561 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: It's the four of them and then a step down 562 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: and then there's everybody else. But the Czechs would be 563 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: near the top of that. 564 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: Everybody else for sure if they move on or they 565 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: they they would face they would not face Canada. They 566 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: would face either well, I mean, I'm just assuming Finland 567 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: beat Switzerland, but that's not guaranteed, but it would be 568 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: they would they would either face the winner of Finland 569 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: Switzerland or Slovakia Germany. Right, they would not face Canada 570 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: unless it's a gold medal game. 571 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: So Finland plays the winner of Switzerland Italy, which will 572 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: be what's already was Switzerland that happened earlier. 573 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Switzerland, and then Slovakia Germany. That is correct, yep, Okay, 574 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: so that's the other side. They wouldn't Canada in the 575 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: semi final, correct, yea, So there's a reseed. 576 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're the only way that US to play 577 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: Canadas in the gold medal game or I guess potentially 578 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: the bronze medal game. 579 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: They both lose in the semis. But let's not talk 580 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: about that. No, we don't talk about such things. Again, 581 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: we are emotional and we are optimistic, and we're looking 582 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: for US v. Canada on Thursday for the ladies, and 583 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: then I believe that would be it would be Sunday, 584 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, oh, come on man, seven in the morning 585 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: for the men's gold medal game. Seriously, okay, kegs and eggs. 586 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Isn't that that's exceptionally arrogant of me, by the way, 587 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: for a sporting competition taking place in Europe, that they 588 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: must gear the entire schedule so that me and Minnesota 589 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: seven hours before them, that they must gear the timing 590 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: of every event. What is most convenient for me? Again, 591 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: thousands of miles away. 592 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: I think the there's a reason that every US game 593 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: so far for the men's and most of them for 594 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: the women's, has been at two ten Central. I mean 595 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: that's a nine to ten pm start time. Yeah, that's 596 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: that's brutal. I should be thankful for that. Actually, I 597 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: appreciate that. 598 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you have to do that and they're 599 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: not doing it Sunday morning. We're used to. 600 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: Watching games at nine am. As soccer guys. 601 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, h that's nothing. Kegs and eggs. Let's go kegs 602 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: and eggs. Scarves up for your guy. Hamas Thumas Rodriguez. 603 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Of course he changes everything. Is he the best Columbian ever? 604 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Or is it Falcow? Is it Valderramo? I just by 605 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: ignorance I'll say he's the best ever. We'll leave it 606 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: that he looked like he was definitely going to be 607 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: the best ever. Sadly twelve years ago it's been a while. 608 00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: He ain't the same. 609 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: And the first highlight I got sent for my friends 610 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: was from the twenty fourteen World Cup and like, look 611 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: how good this guy is. 612 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: That's that's a problem. That is a problem. Thanks for 613 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: hanging out with me today, my friends. That's that is 614 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: Brett Blakemore, producer of nine to Noon this morning. Big 615 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: thanks to Saucy for a little draft conversation on the 616 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: front end sparking a a Talker Tuesday, brought to you 617 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: by Northern Fire Grilling and Barbecue Supply. Pat mcletty is 618 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: always appreciate him, and it was just fun catching up 619 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: with Parker. I mean, you know Parker is I mean 620 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: he's not he's kind of on vacation in Milan, but 621 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: the taking the time that he has to spend some 622 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: with with Pa last week and with us this morning, 623 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: just kind of sitting as close as he is with 624 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: with this women's team embarking on just i mean one 625 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: of the more dominating Olympic performances you've seen what Team 626 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: USA is doing and what they likely will do Thursday 627 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: against the against the Canucks. The Canadians is a beautiful thing. 628 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: And for John Bonas, that's the news of the day. 629 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: In case you weren't earlier that Pablo Lopez leaving batting 630 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: practice yesterday discovering a significant tear in his elbow and 631 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: the strong likelihood that he will be opting for season 632 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: ending surgery. Second opinion in play. But John Bonus during 633 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: the eleven am hour updating on us on that thank 634 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: you for listening. Pa is going to be back in 635 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: the mix tomorrow. As of now, I believe there may 636 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: be a Bruce Boudreaux appearance at Jordan Leopold appearance and 637 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: much more on a Wednesday nine to noon. Have a 638 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: terrific day, and thank you for listening to the fan 639 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: podcast Today's Paul Allen Show. 640 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 6: We're listening back to previous show and interviews like going 641 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 6: to the iHeartRadio app or kfan dot com.