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Speaker 2: Tight ends to the left of Christian Darisol. It is

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Speaker 2: second and a goal from the one direct snap to

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Speaker 2: Jordan Mason. He sprints out to the left, he reaches

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Speaker 2: short Jordan Mason on a direct snap, think the same

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Speaker 2: play they ran to Cam Akers in the Browns game.

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Speaker 3: Every players really on the field.

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Speaker 4: The touch that.

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Speaker 2: Now post time for x's and o's on the baston

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Speaker 2: ever expanding KFA in Minnesota, Vikings Audio Network and welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Paul Allen. Happy to be joined by one of

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Speaker 2: our favorite people here, Quincy. How you been Quasy, Quasi Sorry,

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Speaker 2: Quasia Doofo mensa general manager for the Minnesota Vikings. But

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Speaker 2: we're on a level just to take you behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes here at Twin City's Orthopedic Performance Center, where two

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Speaker 2: studios to the left of us, two studios to what

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Speaker 2: would be the southwest of us directionally is where those

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Speaker 2: of you who watched Undercover on Amazon Prime, put together

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Speaker 2: by Eli Manning. Well that's we're back in training camp,

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Speaker 2: justin Jefferson. Donda costume called himself Darius Frost, and one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite moments because it went nuts on social

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Speaker 2: media last week. So then I go to Prime and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, I have Prime, So I guess I've

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Speaker 2: been paying for that for right. That's cool? All right,

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Speaker 2: Well I might as well watch it then, And I

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Speaker 2: watched the first Undercover with Baker Mayfield acting like he

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Speaker 2: and then they start throwing pats this people are like hey,

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Speaker 2: and the rookie receiver they had three other players there,

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Speaker 2: and so the rookie receivers looking at fellow rookies going

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Speaker 2: who is this? I mean, this guy is an arm

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Speaker 2: Then he takes the whole thing off and the ruse.

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Speaker 2: The ruse was done, and it was beautiful. Episode number

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Speaker 2: two Justin Jefferson as a photographer Darius Frost uh quasi

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Speaker 2: Dopamensa comes in August or whatever it was for some

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Speaker 2: quote staff photos end quote. And the ruse and then

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Speaker 2: the spoofing was terrific. A lot of great laughs to

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Speaker 2: you figured it out. But I I just there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of great moments there. I still think my

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Quincy a lifetime of having a West

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Speaker 3: African name that I love and to my heart, but

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Speaker 3: it's been mispronounced every which way possible.

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Speaker 5: So really there's yeah, it's crazy, oh man.

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Speaker 3: The first day of school used to be this anxiety

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Speaker 3: inducing five minutes just as I knew there were now

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Speaker 3: and move on. But now justin with that was an

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Speaker 3: incredible performances. I'm too close to Sam Newton right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I trust him anymore. For people

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't really want to be memorialized

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Speaker 5: And Sam was like, you gotta do it, You gotta

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Speaker 2: What do you mean this mustache? You've always had a

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Speaker 5: You, but just the soul, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, you know the that's so fantastic, Quincy,

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Speaker 2: And Here's what I'm getting at. You don't think for

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Speaker 5: That was No, that was so well done.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously you got to be the Every once

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've always been very comfortable with radio and

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Speaker 2: Pedia that undercovers the number one thing for the week.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're really gonna put your thumbs underneath your armpits,

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Speaker 2: flutter your fingers and go A. That's not exactly our

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Speaker 2: general manager, Quasi adopha mensa off your name quickly, though.

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Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of Quazis. I've heard a lot

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Speaker 3: I'll be like, it's you know what, it's sometimes both

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Speaker 2: Okay, well is quasi And there's a reason for me

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Speaker 2: I mean that thing had. That thing had nineteen vowels

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Speaker 3: There is a part to my first name that I'll

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the uh the with with Justin's giggle okay,

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Speaker 5: We can work on that against the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: And but I'm surprised you didn't get Justin's laugh during

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Speaker 3: Man, in hindsight, there is so many things that I

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Speaker 3: Also, just how weird everybody was acting around and I'm

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Speaker 2: Surprise. You would do the same thing if you thought

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Speaker 3: And because I kept looking at him and like they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit it perfectly one forty.

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Speaker 3: And you know, as my my wife would probably tell you,

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Speaker 3: I am Quacy is not fully in the room at

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a different conversation, different day. We need

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Speaker 3: Man, we all do, you know, And so sometimes you

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Speaker 3: need to you know, obviously with her, I buck up

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Speaker 5: So I think my detector was a little off there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two of us in here along with you or dad,

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Speaker 2: you know. So Nordo has has three young young daughters

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Speaker 2: It's just big people, big problems, little people, little problems.

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Speaker 2: When you put that whole thing in perspective. Okay, okay man.

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Speaker 2: Quasia Dopa Mensa, General manager for the Mission of the

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Speaker 2: Vikid's okay, ready, ready, Sam, Here we go. Football questions,

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Speaker 2: NFL trade deadlines two weeks from today. Do people still

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Speaker 3: That My office line is probably wrung seven times since

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Speaker 3: I've been here, and they've all been somebody from the

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Speaker 3: On draft day, people will we do have those landlines,

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Speaker 2: Have you ever investigated or just let yourself think about

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Speaker 2: what your job must have been like before cell phones

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Speaker 5: You know, unbelievable. It's funny. We were in London.

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Speaker 3: I was walking the streets with my family and I

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Speaker 5: I mean, when's the last time you saw a payphone.

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Speaker 3: I had to find a payphone and find a quarter.

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Speaker 3: Of those are things that people kids nowadays probably know

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Speaker 3: You know, it's really really hard when I when I

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Speaker 2: Sound I'm still stuck on facts. I'll just stopped it

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean if you wanted to make a trade

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny that I am normally pretty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know when that lasts.

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Speaker 5: But it's my job to kind of to be on

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Speaker 3: You know some players, it happens, great players have bad games.

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Speaker 5: It's all again.

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Speaker 2: And I have a reason for asking that question something

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Speaker 3: Right now, I am listening to this southern hip hop

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Speaker 2: what they do weekly and how they change things up

437
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Speaker 2: and we we like teach music. Well that here is

438
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Speaker 2: immediately a perk. And he puts the word how into

439
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Speaker 2: the band, so like, you know, I don't know old

440
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Speaker 2: school duo Daryl holl and John Oates all of notes

441
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Speaker 2: how and Oates or We're going to play some some

442
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Speaker 2: Halvin Gay today and learn about Marvin Gay. So I'm like, well,

443
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Speaker 2: what about Parliament, Howidelic and George Clinton and Bootsy Collins

444
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Speaker 2: on bass, Atomic Dog and Flashlight and and so many

445
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Speaker 2: different songs and so therefore that I think that's cool

446
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Speaker 2: what they do to kind of break it up, like that,

447
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Speaker 2: but it also helps the new age or those who

448
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Speaker 2: are younger learn about the roots of trick Daddy, the

449
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Speaker 2: roots of what people listen to.

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Speaker 5: Now, you know, that doesn't surprise me.

451
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Speaker 3: PJ is one of the more unique people I've ever met, creative, passionate,

452
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Speaker 3: watched that game on TV. Really, we be proud of

453
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Speaker 3: those guys. So that doesn't surprise me at all. But now,

454
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Speaker 3: music's this beautiful thing, you know. I know last night

455
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Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba had a great thing. I love

456
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Speaker 3: telling this story. But I'll run into him every now

457
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Speaker 3: and again. He will remember the top thirty meeting where

458
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Speaker 3: I asked him what song would you play if you

459
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Speaker 3: had something to say about it? Like, he will remember

460
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Speaker 3: and we'll talk about it. That's like a cool thing

461
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Speaker 3: that you can connect with people. We don't we're not

462
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Speaker 3: from the same place.

463
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Speaker 5: We don't. He didn't have a typewriter in seventh grade.

464
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Speaker 5: But you know we can.

465
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Speaker 3: We can connect on those things and kind of have

466
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Speaker 3: those experiences, which is awesome.

467
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Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be a thank you very

468
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Speaker 2: much for joining. Greatly appreciate you. And if I don't,

469
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Speaker 2: if we don't chat on the sideline, it's so far.

470
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Speaker 2: It's because I envisioned there could be a moment with

471
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Speaker 2: a you and Chargers GM. Joe is it Ortiz, Yeah,

472
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Speaker 2: Joe Ortiz. He's lost his top two running backs and

473
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Speaker 2: left tackle Rashaans Later for the season. You've gone through

474
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Speaker 2: a million games of injuries this season, so maybe you

475
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Speaker 2: guys just lament a little bit into the game before

476
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Speaker 2: you compete against each other.

477
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Speaker 3: You know, Joe, Joe's super talented, known of him for

478
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Speaker 3: a long period of time, but as GMS, you don't

479
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Speaker 3: really lament on those things. It's just say that's the job,

480
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Speaker 3: and you kind of take the challenge of it. And

481
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Speaker 3: he's wired that way, and they got a great roster.

482
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Speaker 3: It'll be a competitive game. I'm excited for it to

483
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Speaker 3: two teams that need to win like we always do,

484
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Speaker 3: so I'm fired up for it.

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

514
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Speaker 2: I'm doing well.

515
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Speaker 4: The short week is it's a grind, but you know,

516
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Speaker 4: you just kind of ride with the chaos and try

517
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Speaker 4: to be where your feet are.

518
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Speaker 2: As they say, Yes, every Tuesday, we coming off the

519
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Speaker 2: NFL a completed week, we will do something called hyperbolic

520
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Speaker 2: or hyper accurate. Yeah, mixed in a little NBA today

521
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Speaker 2: with Okac and stuff while we were waiting for Quasia

522
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Speaker 2: Dopa mensa. So for both of you, I'll lay this

523
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Speaker 2: out and Ben you go first. Is this hyperbolic or

524
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Speaker 2: hyper accurate? Carson Wentz is so banged up? Max Brosmer

525
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Speaker 2: should play at the LA Chargers. I think that's hyperbolic.

526
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Speaker 2: We will see a little more today what he has

527
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Speaker 2: to say, what Kevin O'Connell has to say. But no,

528
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's so banged up.

529
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Speaker 4: I mean he said after the game, I'll be all right,

530
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Speaker 4: I'll get through the recovery process.

531
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Speaker 2: And he said, you know, I don't like Thursday games.

532
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Speaker 4: I don't know that there's a player who does, because

533
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Speaker 4: you hear somebody of them talk about these games are

534
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Speaker 4: like getting in a car crash. Every week so you

535
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Speaker 4: have to be ready again to do it earlier than

536
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Speaker 4: you normally would. I know a lot of players will

537
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Speaker 4: say Thursday is about when you start to feel normal again.

538
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Speaker 4: So there is a certainly a heightened challenge of trying

539
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Speaker 4: to do this on a short week, and when you

540
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Speaker 4: are dealing with injuries, that makes it more difficult. But

541
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's so bad. And he didn't react

542
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Speaker 4: in a way on Sunday that made me think, hey,

543
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Speaker 4: they might need to make a change for health reasons here.

544
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Speaker 4: So no, I think that's hyperbolic.

545
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Speaker 2: And I know the shoulder situation was his non throwing shoulder. Yes,

546
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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to pretend, you know, and lie

547
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Speaker 2: to the audience and act like I've watched every Carson

548
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Speaker 2: Wentz Throader in the course of his career. It's the

549
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Speaker 2: reason I brought it up the way I did is

550
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Speaker 2: in watching back the game and all of the games,

551
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Speaker 2: specifically offensively, is he's throwing his throwing mote, it's side

552
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Speaker 2: He's doing a lot of side arm stuff when he

553
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Speaker 2: doesn't really have to. And like there's an Addison play

554
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Speaker 2: where he got behind a corner a safety was running

555
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Speaker 2: and the one by the boundary where he fell.

556
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he brought it in for the long game. Yeah,

557
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Speaker 4: the one that if he leads him, it's probably a touchdown.

558
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Speaker 2: Probably. I think safety guy might have had something to

559
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Speaker 2: say about that, But it could have been longer. The

560
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Speaker 2: longer game, right, Well, there's that example. Some of the

561
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Speaker 2: other examples would be just the looping nature of some

562
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Speaker 2: of these passes. And maybe after with all with all

563
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Speaker 2: due respect, we're both quite bond of Carson. It's after

564
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Speaker 2: Cousins and then Darnold and now you know we're just

565
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Speaker 2: and why you were watching Sam last night, Yeah, I

566
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Speaker 2: mean you're just used to seeing that thing just zipping

567
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Speaker 2: there every single play, and there's somebody running after the

568
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Speaker 2: catching and I just wonder if he's battling some things

569
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Speaker 2: that that's costing him some velocity on his passes. Yeah,

570
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Speaker 2: it could be.

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Speaker 4: I mean that shoulder injury could be affecting the follow

572
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Speaker 4: through and that may be kind of what comes into

573
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Speaker 4: the velocity too. So I mean, yes, it's not his

574
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Speaker 4: throwing shoulder, but everything is, especially when you talk about

575
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Speaker 4: the way quarterbacks are taught to throw in this day

576
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Speaker 4: and age, with rotational mechanics, it is your whole trunk,

577
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Speaker 4: it's your whole body, so it's it's going to have

578
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Speaker 4: an effect, I think, and it's part of the reason

579
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Speaker 4: that in London he had to go get a harness

580
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Speaker 4: put on his shoulder. I believe he played with that

581
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Speaker 4: again last week. So you're looked like working through those

582
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Speaker 4: things and that does have an effect, I think, But

583
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Speaker 4: you know, it's one of those things we try to

584
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Speaker 4: just get through it and make the best of it.

585
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Speaker 6: Well, I hate I hate to say it this way

586
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Speaker 6: for his sake, I kind of hope that he's battling

587
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Speaker 6: through an injury because with everything, and it's not that

588
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Speaker 6: he's it's not that he's ever been the most accurate

589
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Speaker 6: quarterback in NFL history. However, his arm has never been

590
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Speaker 6: questioned in terms of his ability to get it to

591
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Speaker 6: where it needs to be at a high level of speed.

592
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Speaker 6: And it is the loopy his second interception, for instance,

593
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Speaker 6: and I know he's running, he's off platform, all of that,

594
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Speaker 6: but the amount of air he puts under the ball

595
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Speaker 6: is effectively what allows Makuba the ability or Makuda I think,

596
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Speaker 6: the ability to go back and secure that ball. And

597
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Speaker 6: so you know, I don't want him to be hurt

598
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Speaker 6: but then at least I would know if he's that

599
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Speaker 6: banged up, that would provide some explanations for what was

600
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Speaker 6: an incredible regression from an accuracy and overall just an

601
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Speaker 6: overall quality of play standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think there probably has to be I

603
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Speaker 4: think one is probably linked to the other. There, I

604
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Speaker 4: wouldn't expect it's just all of a sudden. Oh there's

605
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Speaker 4: this sudden regression and this guy that we thought was

606
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Speaker 4: playing at least efficiently, the way he played in London,

607
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Speaker 4: certainly at the end of the game was better than

608
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Speaker 4: efficient to all of a sudden then go out and

609
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Speaker 4: be that off. I mean, I even think of the one.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's there's a backwards pass. There's the one

611
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Speaker 4: that Addison kind of leaks out on the back that

612
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Speaker 4: Addison's probably opened for a big game he misses behind him.

613
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the opening drive before the bad snack.

614
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Speaker 6: Addison has a first down, potentially another touchdown opportunity there

615
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Speaker 6: if he gets him. Yeah.

616
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Speaker 4: Yes, So there were enough of those things that you

617
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Speaker 4: kind of say, Okay, there has to be more to

618
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Speaker 4: this story than just all all of a sudden, he's

619
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Speaker 4: not good. I mean, you know, it's not typically that

620
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Speaker 4: It's not that somebody that's been doing this for as

621
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Speaker 4: long as they have all of a sudden is inefficient

622
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Speaker 4: at it. There's usually more to it. So yeah, then

623
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Speaker 4: the question becomes how do you manage it? The question

624
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Speaker 4: is does it cause enough regression that you say we

625
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: need to go with somebody else here? But in a

626
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Speaker 4: short week with J. J. McCarthy still recovering that ankle

627
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Speaker 4: he said last week's not one hundred percent, and Max Brosmer,

628
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Speaker 4: you know, has not started an NFL game, are you

629
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Speaker 4: gonna do that in a short week. It's not an

630
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Speaker 4: ideal scenario, But the Thursday games really are when.

631
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Speaker 2: You when you, you know, watch the portion of practice with

632
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Speaker 2: with all the players out there, including JJ McCarthy. Do

633
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Speaker 2: do you ever watch like after McCarthy does a drill

634
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: or throws or whatever, and then he like walks back

635
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Speaker 2: and here comes Brosmer and then here comes Wentz and

636
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Speaker 2: that whole thing JJ still has the cliched hitchin is

637
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Speaker 2: giddy up. Have you noticed that when he walks it's

638
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Speaker 2: it's just not it's not a ten of ten days

639
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Speaker 2: yet because of that ankle.

640
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've seen a little bit of that, and

641
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Speaker 4: I think there's still things he is getting through with

642
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: at him, and there may be some scar tissue there

643
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Speaker 4: and you have to kind of and that may be

644
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Speaker 4: there for a while. I mean, you may get to

645
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: a point where everybody says you're good. It's just not

646
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: going to feel completely normal until this car tissue gets

647
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Speaker 4: worked through. So there could be some of that involved.

648
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 4: But yes, you can see some of those things yet.

649
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: And I think it's one of those discussions where everybody's like,

650
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: when's he going to play?

651
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Speaker 2: When's he going to play?

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Speaker 4: If you look at this in the context of a

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Speaker 4: career trajectory, I think, which is what I think they're doing,

654
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Speaker 4: it becomes a little bit of a different question. This

655
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Speaker 4: whole thing of is it this week? Is it next week?

656
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Speaker 4: It's like, no, they're thinking about what is he going

657
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Speaker 4: to look like when he's twenty five, twenty six years old?

658
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Speaker 4: And this getting him in a smooth kind of ramping

659
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Speaker 4: on process on ramping process. Not corporate enough to know

660
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Speaker 4: all the hr lengal, but I think all of that

661
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: comes into what they are doing and when they're going

662
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Speaker 4: to put him back out there. And if you're still

663
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Speaker 4: in that spot where you're not necessarily trusting your mechanics

664
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Speaker 4: and your gait planting off that back foot because of it.

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Speaker 4: I think all of that is part of the process

666
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Speaker 4: that they have to figure out before they put it back.

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Speaker 2: Now with Ben via X at Ben Gesslin, you can

668
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Speaker 2: learn about Access Vikings, and you can learn about the

669
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Speaker 2: podcast and the Access Vikings newsletter. But one of the

670
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Speaker 2: prevalent things you will see close to atop the page,

671
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Speaker 2: not not pinned, but that's about McCarthy and mechanics and

672
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Speaker 2: quarterback school and stuff like that. Really cool story we

673
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Speaker 2: talked about a few weeks ago, but one of these

674
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Speaker 2: submissions is Vikings. Vikings are at the bottom of the

675
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Speaker 2: NFL's toughest division with a short week and questions to answer. Yeah, okay,

676
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Speaker 2: and that was like above your story and I've read

677
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Speaker 2: the story, but for those who haven't, what what questions

678
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Speaker 2: are there to answer heading into the Chargers game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think there that was. I think

680
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Speaker 4: the game story kind of gets into some of those things.

681
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Speaker 4: That's the story you're referencing.

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Speaker 2: It was.

683
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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, the way they played defensively on

684
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Speaker 4: Sunday was a little pick I mean, getting beat down

685
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Speaker 4: the field like they did is not something we've seen

686
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Speaker 4: very much, So, you know, is it questions if I

687
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: think there's safeties in spots where ASAA Rodgers is getting

688
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Speaker 4: beat downfield, should he have had safety help on a

689
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Speaker 4: couple of those. I think that the seventy nine yarder

690
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: that comes to mind. They're not getting home quite as

691
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: effectively with a pass rush as I would expect. I

692
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: do think they miss Andrew van Kinkel. We'll see if

693
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: he's unbelievable it. Yeah, it makes a massive difference the

694
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: way they look when he's in there versus when he's not.

695
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Speaker 4: So I think those things have been factors, and I think, yeah,

696
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: just defensively, that has been a group that buys you

697
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: a little bit of margin because they're good enough at

698
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Speaker 4: getting stops, and they did a lot of that on Sunday.

699
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Speaker 4: I mean they were able to come back because that

700
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Speaker 4: group created three and outs and after that first drive,

701
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Speaker 4: I think the Eagles had like twenty seven net yards

702
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: on their next four or something like that. So the

703
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: group is still good at getting stops when it needs them,

704
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Speaker 4: but the lack of turnovers has been a big difference

705
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Speaker 4: from last year. And then just getting beat down field

706
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: is not something we'd seen. I think they had only

707
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Speaker 4: given up like six plays of twenty yards or more

708
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Speaker 4: before Sunday all season, which was the fewest in the league,

709
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Speaker 4: and I think they gave up five on Sunday, So

710
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Speaker 4: kind of an uncaraster, uncharacteristic performance that I think as

711
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Speaker 4: they go into this one, there's gonna be a lot

712
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Speaker 4: to get figured out at a base level.

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Speaker 6: Can you just dial all of that into the pass

714
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Speaker 6: rush or potentially the lack thereof, And that goes into

715
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Speaker 6: the Van Gigle conversation with the neck. I liked a

716
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Speaker 6: lot of what I saw from Cashman in his return,

717
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Speaker 6: those sorts of things. Pa hit on something yesterday, just

718
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Speaker 6: the lack of snaps for Javon Hargra. Yeah, and so

719
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Speaker 6: you're kind of thinking, Okay, well, Jalen Redman's kind of

720
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Speaker 6: showing out.

721
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Speaker 2: You had a lot of Levi Drake Rodriguez.

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Speaker 6: In that game Sunday. But in terms of affecting the

723
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Speaker 6: passer and Jalen in the vacuum with this Eagles game,

724
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Speaker 6: I mean, he can just kind of dip on out.

725
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Speaker 5: He's kind of smooth, actually.

726
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he buys himself a little time and there's

727
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Speaker 6: aj Brown uncovered. But to that end, you know, moving forward,

728
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Speaker 6: getting vang Gae back, getting more potentially out of Dallas Turner.

729
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Speaker 6: The lack of sacks, the lack of turnovers, I feel

730
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Speaker 6: like that really stems at a base level, specifically with

731
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Speaker 6: that front group.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I think that has a lot to

733
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Speaker 4: do with everything. I mean, they built front to back,

734
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Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it, and you've seen them in

735
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Speaker 4: the way they've gone about it in free agency these

736
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Speaker 4: last couple of years. Do that where it's let's go

737
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Speaker 4: get the edge rushers. Last year, Jonathan Gunnard Andrew Van

738
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Speaker 4: Ginkle draft Dallas Turner. This year it's let's go get

739
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Speaker 4: Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen. And yes, they've added in

740
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Speaker 4: the secondary, certainly Isaiah Rodgers, I think was the first

741
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: guy they agreed with during the legal tampering period. So

742
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Speaker 4: they address some of those things, but the big money,

743
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: the big investments have been upfront, and I think the

744
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Speaker 4: idea is, if you can create enough pass rush, you

745
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Speaker 4: get the ball thrown underneath, you can rally to the ball,

746
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Speaker 4: defend and keep it to short gains. You're not giving

747
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Speaker 4: up anything long downfield. It's a little bit of the

748
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Speaker 4: vic Fangio thing of keep everything in front of you,

749
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Speaker 4: but they're doing it a different way because they're basically

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Speaker 4: forcing the ball to come out so fast that it

751
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Speaker 4: doesn't get thrown over your head. So the fact that

752
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Speaker 4: that happened on Sunday, some of that, yes, is Jalen

753
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Speaker 4: Hurts being able to extend plays. I think the touchdown

754
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 4: on the fourth down had the ball in his hand

755
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Speaker 4: for like seven seconds, and that's the backside of that play.

756
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: He'd work the other way and nothing was open before

757
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: coming back to aj Brown. So when you have him

758
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Speaker 4: doing that that there is some uniqueness to what he does.

759
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Speaker 4: But they also need to be able to get to

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Speaker 4: the point where quarterbacks say, I've got to get the

761
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Speaker 4: ball out of my hand and it can't go downfield.

762
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Speaker 4: I can have broken plays because somebody's coming after me.

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Speaker 4: And I think the pass rush helps the secondary a lot.

764
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Speaker 4: And I think the lack of productivity, at least to

765
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Speaker 4: the standard that they're used to, has hurt the secondary

766
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Speaker 4: kind of as a side effect of that.

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Speaker 2: Is there any van Ginkel steam I mean he was

768
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Speaker 2: limited with the practice designation yesterday, which teams do for

769
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Speaker 2: Thursday games. If there had been practice right so and

770
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Speaker 2: so would be limited, and he was limited all week

771
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Speaker 2: last week, then ruled out Friday in front of the

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Speaker 2: Eagles game. And any Van Ginkle scheme is to like

773
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Speaker 2: when well.

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Speaker 4: I asked O'Connell about it on Friday, he sounded more

775
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: optimistic about the progress. And they've done, you know, a

776
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: lot of digging on how to treat the next stuff.

777
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Speaker 4: And I think you know, when it's a neck and

778
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: a player that's had a concussion, you're probably crossing your

779
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: eyes or crossing your t's dotting your eyes with a

780
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: lot of things to make sure it's not going to

781
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Speaker 4: get worse and it's not going to have long term ramifications.

782
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: So I think they felt good about a lot of that,

783
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: and the work he had in practice last week I

784
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: think was a step in the right direction. I don't

785
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: know if in a short week they'll say, yeah, let's

786
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Speaker 4: go try it. I would think maybe the Lions game

787
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: makes a little more sense there. I agree, but you know,

788
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 4: we'll see today what he does and how they proceed.

789
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: I think they are moving towards it, but I just

790
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: the short week I think makes everything a little harder.

791
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, to dovetail off what Nordo asked about that

792
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Speaker 2: baseline question and then he mentioned Javon Hargrave. Where I

793
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: saw it on Twitter yesterday. I wasn't adding up to

794
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: snapcounts or anything. Somebody tweeted I verified it, and it

795
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: was like, Javon Hargrave eighteen snaps fewer than Levi, Drake Rodriguez,

796
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: Jalen Redman has been better than everybody on that defensive

797
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: line the whole year, against the run, against the pass,

798
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: and the whole thing. Okay, so you're six into it,

799
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: you still got eleven to turn some things around. However,

800
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: speaking of the X machine, I saw this this morning.

801
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't know this person, but you know I follow

802
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: him on Twitter, Sean Borman. It was at Sean Borman NFL.

803
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: That's where I saw it. It was a tweet and I

804
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: added it up and he's right, it's in that And

805
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: you know, there was some bragging off the not from

806
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: the team, but a braggadocious or positive situation off the

807
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Bears game where Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave, two newbies

808
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: on whom they're counting, had thirteen pressures combined in that

809
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: Bears game. Okay, well, in the next five games they

810
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: have fifteen combined. Well how I mean and with Hardgrave,

811
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Speaker 2: I just I'm I'm not getting it with jay Von Hartrave.

812
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Somebody yesterday was like, well, maybe you can't play him

813
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: situationally because of this, and I'm like, in my opinion,

814
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: they signed Javon Hargrave to stop the run, yep, to

815
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: rush the quarterback and not complain when he gets double teamed.

816
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: So others can quote eat end quote what do you think.

817
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has gotten a lot of attention, he's

819
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: gotten double teams, certainly, we've seen that through these few games.

820
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: But you do want to see more production from him,

821
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: more plays where you're noticing his impact even if he's

822
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: not getting to the quarterback that he's able to, you know,

823
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Speaker 4: maybe make a quarterback have to bail a certain way

824
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 4: or closes off the line to step up where he's

825
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: he's a bigger factor in the pass rush than we've

826
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Speaker 4: seen him be. I do think the lack of impactfulness

827
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Speaker 4: from him especially has hurt. I mean Jonathan Allen hasn't

828
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: gotten there as much. Jonathan Allen Actually, I thought early

829
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: in that game on Sunday, the first two tackles, Yes,

830
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: and both and a really nice play. I think the

831
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: ball was going away from him. Mix a backside play

832
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: to stop the first one. So he had some moments.

833
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: But they signed those guys to create more interior pass

834
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: rusts than they've gotten, especially over these last few and

835
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Speaker 4: I think that's when you're missing Van Ginkel and you

836
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Speaker 4: have players that you brought in to help, you know,

837
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Speaker 4: be another source of pass rush, and it hasn't happened.

838
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's had an effect well. And and

839
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: when you get an eighteen, okay, it can be if

840
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: we if we were in a room with those making

841
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: the decision, we had an hour and they got to

842
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: call us, you're an idiot, you don't get it. Look

843
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: at this, this, this, this, this before you spout off

844
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: and talk. Okay, I'd love to have that, sure, simply.

845
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: And it has nothing to do with the financial compensation

846
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: given Javon hargright, Yeah, when people get paid. That ship

847
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: has sailed. Now, it's productivity. How much you play? Is

848
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: it what you said? It would be stuff like that.

849
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: So okay, perhaps we could be told that this is

850
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: a this is a side to side, this is an

851
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: edge game. Okay, we're working on all this with Barkley

852
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: outside and the cutbacks and the angles and the the

853
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: the holding the edge and everything that hurt all week

854
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: last week or could be vertical all right where Well,

855
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Speaker 2: I don't care.

856
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 5: And here's why.

857
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: Because I've been a fan of jay Von Hargraves from

858
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: Afar since he came into the league and he had

859
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Speaker 2: a fumble recovery touchdown in his very in his very

860
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: first season. I'm like, who is that? And I watched

861
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: him right up on his story and I've been a

862
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: fan of his from Afar. Well, now he's here. It's

863
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: a conscious decision somebody is making to play somebody only

864
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Speaker 2: eighteen plays, right, Okay, Well, I'm curious to see where

865
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: it goes this next game and then after that. But

866
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: that's Eighteen's a tiny for somebody of that calny. That's

867
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: very true.

868
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 4: And I think Jalen Redmond has played well enough that

869
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: that may change the conversation a little. But when you

870
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: brought Javon Hargraves in, I think they are expecting to

871
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: have a guy that's playing a little more than he has,

872
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: So I have to think it's a two sided coin here.

873
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: Some of it's been Redmand playing well. I think some

874
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 4: of it probably is Pargrave not being as productive as

875
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: they want. So, I mean, all of these things, these

876
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: pieces work together. But yeah, I think through the course

877
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 4: of the year, if you're seeing those snapcoms continue, Yeah,

878
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: it's absolutely fair to point out this was different than

879
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: what they seem to expect when they signed him for

880
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881
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905
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911
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: What does on a short week? Does Flores speak during

912
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: the week?

913
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: I would expect if we, I mean, all of our

914
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: access is for the week is today, So I would

915
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 4: think if we're getting coordinators coming off the field, okay,

916
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: I think.

917
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the reason I ask, is that with

918
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: the strategy to stop or stall, the tush push. Yeah,

919
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: they were the brotherly shove by the Eagles and the

920
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: strategy with edge guy Tyler Batty laying on the ground.

921
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: Did you get any clarity or like, like, what is

922
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: that supposed to do to help? Yeah?

923
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: So we actually wrote about it. I think I'm only

924
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: a likeer. Talked to him after the game. He basically said,

925
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: the basics of it are low man wins. I think

926
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: the Chiefs did this in the Super Bowl with Chris Jones,

927
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: which you know you may need Chris Jones for other things,

928
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 4: so right, Tyler Penny, I think you know, coming back

929
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: from the knee injury, it's like, hey, glad your needs

930
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: feeling better.

931
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: Here's what we're thinking for this week. I would have

932
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: loved to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. Guys,

933
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm healthy. What do you guys want me to do?

934
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 6: Well, we want you to effectively die under an offensive, like.

935
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 4: Multiple three hundred pound men to fall on you and

936
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: maybe steep on your wounded knee. Have you ever driven

937
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: over a speed bump like we basically want you to

938
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: be that. So I think some of it was, Yeah,

939
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: you get leverage and it makes it so they can't

940
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: get up push.

941
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: Well, how do you get leverage only if people stand

942
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 5: on you?

943
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: Well, yes, but you're you're getting leveraged from stopping the

944
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 4: Eagles from pushing the line back because they're not able

945
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: to get low enough to move you.

946
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

947
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think in the football basics of low

948
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: man wins, I think it's taking Loman wins to an extreme.

949
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's uh well, and I think he talked

950
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: about it in the locker room, and I think Blake,

951
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 4: I think was Blake Cashman that in Emily's story shouted over, Yeah,

952
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: he's a certified maniac or something like that, which you've

953
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: got to have to be to be like, yeah, let's

954
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: do it. That sounds great. But yeah, that one, it

955
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: almost worked. It's an interesting thing. We'll see if other

956
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: teams try it. But you do have to have the

957
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: right people to say, yeah, I'm I'm good with that.

958
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 6: I still I don't get it how Jurgen's his head

959
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 6: is over the ball the right I mean with specifically

960
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 6: at the beginning of the year when there was all

961
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 6: this emphasis on illegal formation. Right, So helmet of the

962
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 6: tackle's got to be belt level or closer to where

963
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: the center's at Yeah, all those flats were thrown initially,

964
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 6: and let's just say I doubt that every team has

965
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 6: buttoned that entire thing up. But it feels kind of

966
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 6: like a short term like don't do this, guys, and

967
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 6: then they just moved on. Yeah, but similar like, there

968
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: are serious formation issues that you can see when you

969
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 6: get the overhead camera view, and they.

970
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Still are able to do it.

971
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 6: So at first, I'm just thinking if it's illegal play,

972
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 6: who cares? And they just happen to be really good

973
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 6: at it, and you know what we can do. We

974
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 6: can just keep them out a third and one right,

975
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 6: well in sometimes two and the vikings actually mostly effective

976
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 6: in that. But now I saw a couple of camera angles.

977
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 6: I'm just it's kind of a sham play. It annoys me,

978
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 6: and I want it to go away. I don't want

979
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 6: to overlegislate the game, but that thing is just it's

980
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 6: an ugly play and I hate it.

981
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: I used to be like, Okay, well just go stop

982
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: it if you don't like it. But the more I've

983
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: seen it, and the more you just kind of think

984
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: about the mechanics of it, I'm the more I'm with you,

985
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: the more I'm just kind of.

986
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: Like this is kind of annoying. Yeah, it's just like

987
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: you fin agile.

988
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a gadget, and if enough teams get

989
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: annoyed with it, I mean.

990
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: Try to stop it. But why is it a loophole?

991
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: Well, in the sense that pushing a guy forward, I

992
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: mean we've had that conversation over the years of being

993
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: able to help a guy get positive yardage. I mean,

994
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: this wasn't the big discussion. I mean that the name

995
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: goes back twenty years last week to the Bush push

996
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: in Ue Reggie Bush pushing Matt Lionard.

997
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: I believe in at the end zone.

998
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: Its Notre Dame was when that first came up, and

999
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: this idea of can you aid a runner going forward,

1000
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: We've all kind of said this is okay, and I

1001
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: think there's a loophole in the rules with the formation

1002
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: that allows them to do it. But yeah, I mean

1003
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: the packers tried. They proposed at the owner's meetings last year,

1004
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 4: let's get rid of this, and it didn't get the votes.

1005
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: I think the that got pushed to the meetings that

1006
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: were here in egan in May and owners said, no,

1007
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: we don't have enough momentum to get rid of this.

1008
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: I will be interested to see if that continues to

1009
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 4: move toward getting rid of that play after this year.

1010
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: The tush push generally takes three ish seconds. Okay, I

1011
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: haven't timed it out. I'm guessing here. Do you think

1012
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: you guys think three three and a half sounds fair?

1013
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, one thousand and two, one thousand

1014
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: and three, Maybe a little longer, yeah, okay. And with

1015
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: the with the brotherly shove and what the Eagles do.

1016
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: If you watch most of them back, they're all going

1017
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: forward and the outside guys generally head in. Okay. So

1018
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: I've said this for years, and I can't get anybody

1019
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: to tell me it's against the rules or why nobody

1020
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: does it. I don't understand for the life of me.

1021
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: Not in touchdown situations because all hands on deck, I

1022
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: got somebody on the edge, and your only job is

1023
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: to come around that edge at one hundred miles per

1024
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: hour and get Doubt Dallas Goddard and the ribs and

1025
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: get aj Brown in the ribs with your helmet or

1026
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: your shoulder pads, legal hits and do it repeatedly. Go

1027
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: ahead and keep running this well, you better take that

1028
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: left tackle or your extra unbalanced guy and get this

1029
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: guy because his only job is to come around and

1030
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: smack the pusher. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna bury the

1031
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: pusher and hit that sucker so hard. I'm gonna either

1032
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: knock your guys out of the game or I'm gonna

1033
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: pull you out of this.

1034
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: Push push, and that would maybe be the way nobody

1035
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: does it. Nobody does it. But if that happened enough,

1036
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: I wonder if the NFL would start to say, you

1037
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 4: know what, we gotta stop doing this because a lot.

1038
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: Of helmet in rig Dallas done well.

1039
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you would get to a point where

1040
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: the concerns about player safety would get loud enough that

1041
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: they would say, well, you know what, the way that

1042
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: this play has gone, the way it's it's evolved, I

1043
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: think that would change the conversation. I mean, yeah, we're

1044
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 4: gonna give you a surprise. Yeah, no, we're giving you

1045
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 4: the right. You're at the fifty, go go ahead and push.

1046
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1047
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: In fact, you're gonna get four yards out of this. Yeah,

1048
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 4: they those three players cost of doing business to that that. Yeah,

1049
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: if that were to happen, I do wonder if GMS,

1050
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: if Howie Roseman would say, you know what, Nick, we

1051
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 4: need to not run this play.

1052
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: And don't you can't tell me that the pushers generally

1053
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard, Saquon Barkley und or A. J. Brown, that

1054
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: they are defenseless players. They're not. They're pushing the guy

1055
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: they're in the play. So it's not, you know, targeting

1056
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: a defenseless player, which maybe it is, and maybe that's

1057
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: why nobody doesn't. But now thought, now, all of a sudden,

1058
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: you got to take your your edge, guys offensively, you're

1059
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: outside guys. You've got to think about who's coming around

1060
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: to put that helmet into Dallas Goddard's trips. And now

1061
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 2: that's one last guy one if you were a guy,

1062
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just it's it's there has to

1063
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: be a way to make the Eagles pay for what

1064
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: they're doing.

1065
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. You have to think that somebody will

1066
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: come up with something. I mean, obviously teams are trying

1067
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 4: to find new ways to do it. When the Vikings

1068
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: say Tyler Batty is going to act as a speedbump slash,

1069
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: you know, table for people to use his leverage, Yes,

1070
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 4: people are trying to figure out to this that could

1071
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: be one that's interesting to see if that ever comes

1072
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: to if teams decide to do that.

1073
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Yeah, see you in the Sofi box box

1074
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: on a Thursday evening when you do pregame with muss Okay.

1075
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 4: I will check in on the directions of how to

1076
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: get down that half mile walk from the press box

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Speaker 4: to the radio booth.

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Speaker 2: Well, just don't get stuck in Amsterdam. Yeah, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: we do that. Let's be fine. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Mike Mussman is doing a Thursday football feast at Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Wild Wing Savage where he's doing vikings Football Sunday that

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Speaker 2: begins at five o'clock Buffalo Wild Wing Savage that will

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Speaker 2: take place on Thursday into the final hour nine to noon.

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Speaker 2: After this