1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Here we go. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to home. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: We are doing an all calls weekend, nothing but your 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: calls today, and I want to get back to the 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: phone so we can get as many calls in as possible. Hey, Gary, 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: welcome home. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 5: I just inherited a seventy five year old house from 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 5: my mom and I noticed that there's some TERMI droppings 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 5: around and when I look for tags, I find that 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 5: the last time it was fumigated was about nineteen ninety eight. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 5: They tags say that they use something called Viking, and 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 5: I'm wondering is that the gold standard still or is 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 5: there something better these days? And what do I do 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 5: with the damage that's I've found. 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not familiar with every chemical process that is 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: part of a tent fumigation, but I can tell you this, Gary, 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: We've come such a long way in the last twenty 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: five twenty seven years since the house was fumigated before, 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: and you've got a lot of options. My encouragement to 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: you is that you talk to a pest control company 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: that has, in fact in their arsenal a lot of options, 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: and you'd be surprised few of those companies are out 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: there because a lot of pest control company they just 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: get into the biz. They just pick up the stuff 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: that everybody does. They'll do a little spot treatment here 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: or there, but if anything is beyond what they're comfortable with, 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: then they'll just say, tent the house. And so you 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: tend the house, you move all the stuff out, you 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: stay out of it, and it gets fully tinted and 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: it's going to be that way for a few days, 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 3: and it's you know, if you're not living in the house, it's. 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: Such generally empty. So I'm not opposed to having attented 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: and taking as much time as they need, but I. 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: Want you to know that you know there's a cost 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: involved in that, obviously, and it may or may not 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 3: be justified. So the point is this, just because you 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: find some droppings here and there doesn't mean that it 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: is an entire whole house infestation. You need to get 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: conscientious eyes on and that's why I say I want 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: you to go with a pest control company that has 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: a lot of other options other than just what we 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: call the nuclear option, which is just tenth the house 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: and it's gone because we've come a long way. We 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: can electrocute termites in walls. Shockingly, shockingly, Ah, I did 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: not mean to say that that way. We can find 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: termites and walls and run a current through them because 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: they've got water in their bodies, and actually electrocute them 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: through the walls to dispose of them. There are various 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: other forms of spot treatment that are highly, highly effective 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: that don't require tentting the house. And there's heat treating 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: a house instead of tinting. And I'm a huge fan 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: of whole house heat treatment as opposed to tinting, just 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: because it leaves no chemical residue, no harmful things behind. 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: Heat treating a house is also a whole house treatment. 58 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: It's sealing up the whole house using heaters and fans 59 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: to bring the internal temperature of the house up to 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: about one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty degrees. 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: They hold it there for a few hours. That is 62 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: lethal to every termite everywhere inside the place. And it 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: doesn't require a tent. It's done. It starts at the 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: beginning of the day, early in the morning, and it's done, 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: and you're back in the house or anybody could be 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: back in the house by that evening. No chemical residue, 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: you don't have to pull stuff out, and you know, 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: and I know the house is relatively empty, but just 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: so you know, it doesn't leave behind any toxicity. It's 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: just a heat treatment, massively popular. Yeah treatment here. My 71 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: biggest recommendation is to find the right company. Now, yeah, 72 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: of course, I'm going to tell you that Eco La. 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: They are my preferred pest control company for southern California's 74 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: precisely because they have a full arsenal and I don't 75 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: know of a pest control company that's more conscientious when 76 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: it comes to approaching the house. They simply don't want 77 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: to do more than is necessary. And they are as 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: everybody who has the nuclear button in front of them 79 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: should be. They are loathed to just turn the key 80 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: and press the button. But they always get the job done. 81 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: And so that's the guarantee. They're going to get the 82 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: job done at whatever level it needs to go. And 83 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: so talk to them, Give them a call, Eco La, 84 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: Eco La, give them a call, and you know, have 85 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: them consult with you about the termite situation. How extensive 86 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: is it. They may say hey, Gary, we need to 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: tent the house, or they may offer some other solutions 88 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: that you might be far more comfortable with and that 89 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: your wallet may actually be more comfortable with. So the 90 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: moral of the story for everybody who's listening is, uh, 91 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 3: you find the right doctor, not the one who just says, 92 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: got an infected splinter. There amputation. No no, no, no no. 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: Let's find a conscientious doctor who gets to the route, 94 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: gets it done with the minimal amount of invasive surgery 95 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: along the way. That's the goal. Gary, Thank you for 96 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: your call, my friend. All right, let's talk to Julie. Hey, Julie, 97 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: welcome home. 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 6: Hi Deine. We're looking at getting new windows, and I 99 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 6: love the black frame windows, but they're obviously a lot 100 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 6: more extensive. So I was wondering, what are your thoughts 101 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 6: on if we just if someone just adgested black frame 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 6: windows in the back of the house and kept the 103 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 6: traditional white frame in the front. 104 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: I have no general problems with that whatsoever. In fact, 105 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: if you hear me talk on the show quite often, 106 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: I'll talk about the tech. One of the techniques for 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: upgrading a house without touching its traditional curb appeal is 108 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: to treat the facade of the house differently than the 109 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: backside of the house, because from the the facade of 110 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: the house is something that is viewed from outside the house, 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: standing on the curb in the street looking at the house. 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: Then you move into the house, you walk in, and 113 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: once you're past the face of the house, now we're 114 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: inside the house looking out through windows into the backyard. 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: It's a completely different experience. And so the idea of 116 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: using black frame windows for the backside of the house 117 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: because you love them and because they work with the 118 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: configuration that you're looking for, in my thinking, in most 119 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: cases most cases don't quote me on this universally, but 120 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: in most cases, yeah, your freedom to mix it up, 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: I would even say, depending on decor. There are times 122 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: when you know there are well, actually you know, I'll 123 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: tell you this. We just finished designing from the ground 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: up a new house in Studio City. Some of those 125 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: windows are white traditional framed windows, some of them are 126 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: dark bronze and black traditional windows, just depending on room 127 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: for room and the effect that we're looking for, and 128 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: on some of the elevations of the house, you can 129 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: see both at the same time. It all depends on 130 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: whether it works with that theme. But as a general rule, 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of the mullet approach, right, all 132 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: business up front and party in the back. So keep 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: your white frame windows facing the street and do back 134 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: black towards the back of the house and have a blast. 135 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: I think you're completely free to do that in most cases. 136 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: Thanks Julie for the call. 137 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's my mullet theory. My mullet theory applies 138 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: to lots of things. 139 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: All the time. I'm so glad you join him in 140 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: this morning. Hang tight, there is more to come. You're 141 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 3: listening to Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Thanks 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: for joining us on the program today, Dean Sharp the 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: House Whisper with you, it is an all calls weekend. 144 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: We are just going to the phones. You're setting the 145 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: agenda today. The number to reach me eight three three 146 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: two ask Dean, Hey, Philip, welcome home. 147 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning. I have a question about a bathroom. 148 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: We're upgrading a small second bath. It's about eight by 149 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: four and for the flooring, the choice, I guess comes 150 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: down to a vinyl sheeting or the twelve inch tiles. 151 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: And is that a matter of just preference or is 152 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: one safer easier to clean, et cetera. Do you have 153 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: any comment about what's a good for It's going to 154 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: be used every day, so there is a lot of traffic, 155 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: and there is a shower, which we'll talk about in 156 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: the second, so there might be water from time to time. 157 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Any ideas on that? 158 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: Okay? Well, all right. 159 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: So when you say the choices come down to sheeting 160 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: or twelve by twelve tie, you mean twelve by twelve 161 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: vinyl tiles, So. 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: Oh, cerami or whatever? 163 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, well you know, i'm I'm The 164 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: ceramic tile floor is a nicer floor than the vinyl. 165 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: It's also going to be a little bit more expensive, 166 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: going to involve some more stuff to do along the way? 167 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: Is this a are we going down on a slab? 168 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: Are we upstairs? What's our stu? 169 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: It's a one story and right now there is some 170 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: vinyl there, but it's it's an old house, so it's 171 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: not on slab. It's a race foundation. 172 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you, I got you. 173 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, So vinyl is going to Now what's the Let 174 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: me ask you this, what's the floor material outside in 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: the hallway? 176 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: I would it's it's an odor Like the other woman, 177 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: it's an odor. Home, but all the flooring is very 178 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: nice and it's you know, the original from thirty nineteen 179 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: thirty seven. 180 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: Got you all right. So here's the thing. 181 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say this because I don't get to 182 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: say it ahead of time before. People do this kind 183 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: of stuff very often, and that is, if you're gonna 184 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: go tile in there, okay, then you're gonna put down 185 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: at least you know where you got your your the 186 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: hardwood and the substrate underneath the bathroom floor. By the 187 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: time you put down back or board and tile, then 188 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: your tile is going to be up above the level 189 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 3: of the hardwood coming in, so you're gonna have a 190 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: level change, which is not my favorite. Now there are 191 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: ways around that, which is to block in between the 192 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: floor joists with solid plywood, not on top of, but 193 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: in between them. It's a little bit more work that 194 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: allows you to lay down just the back or board 195 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: and the tile and actually end up planing out with 196 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: that three quarter inch flooring, which is a beautiful way 197 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: to go. It's my preferred way to go. Anytime we 198 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: are asked to do that and to design it, that's 199 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: always what I say, because I love the idea, especially 200 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: in an older home, pushing a century home that we 201 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: just transition smoothly from the top of the hardwood to 202 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: the top of ceramic tile without there having to be 203 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: a big step up into the bathroom. That aside, vinyl 204 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: will get you there without the extra effort. And there 205 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: are some really nice vinyls out there. But also in 206 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: addition to nice vinyls out there, they are really nice 207 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: luxury vinyl planks out there, which also is going to 208 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: raise the floor only a little bit, and they interlock 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: with each other and they float and they might be well, 210 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: they would be I think in this case a sexier 211 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 3: nice are looking completely bomb proof and water proof alternative 212 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: to just sheet good finals. So that's my suggestion there. 213 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: But for those of you who have century homes, you've 214 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: got to raise foundation home and you're trying to match 215 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: up a bathroom floor, think creatively about how it is 216 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: that you can lay down a ceramic tile floor in 217 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: a bathroom without its sticking up an inch or so 218 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: above the hardwood by the time all the layers are 219 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: built up. There is a way, There is a way 220 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: to do it, and it's it's sheeting and blocking in 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: between the joists as opposed to on top of it. 222 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: So that's my opinion on that, Philip. What else did 223 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: you have for me cheating. 224 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: In the book? Okay? The other thing, the shower valve 225 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: very hard to turn on and turn off. You have 226 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: to really tighten it. Is that something that a matter 227 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: of changing some parts. A plumber could do that, or 228 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: do we have to take the valve out because that 229 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: would involve but breaking a tile and then in a 230 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: replace in a tile. 231 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: What's on the other side of that bathroom shower wall? 232 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: Another bathroom, another bathroom, So what's immediately on the other side. 233 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: Is it plaster, drywall or is it another tub? 234 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: Let's see on the other side. I think it's a drywall. 235 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so there is the answer to your question. An 236 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: old valve like that. Sometimes fixing an old valve like 237 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: that is actually easier than it seems, because maybe it's 238 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: just an old pressurized washer in the valve. But let's assume, 239 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: just for the sake of argument, the harder problem, which 240 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: is those valves are just old and they're not going 241 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: to rehab Well, here is the secret. This is what 242 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: we do all the time, find out what is exactly 243 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: precisely on the other side of that wall. What is 244 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: right behind those valves. If it's plaster or drywall, you're 245 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: in luck, because that's how we change this stuff out 246 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: without tearing up the tile inside the shower area. We 247 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: open up the drywall. Just a little bit of drywall repair. 248 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 3: Ain't nothing compared to having to redo tile in a shower. 249 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: So tile, then we have to break it. 250 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: You said, yeah, if you got tile, then you got 251 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: to break it. But if on the back side of 252 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: that wall it's dry wall, then you open that up 253 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: and we get to those valves from the backside and 254 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: slide new ones through the existing tile setup, and you're 255 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: good to go with a minimal dry wall repair versus 256 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: tearing up everything inside the shower. Philip, thank you for 257 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: the questions and for the call good luck. Give a 258 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: serious look. I'm just saying a house that is pushing 259 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: a century in age is worth your time and energy 260 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: to fix it up right. I don't want to spend 261 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: your money for you, but it's a little bit more 262 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: elbow grease and not real a lot of cost. If 263 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: you decide to go with a ceramic tile floor and 264 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: in order to get that level leveled out with the 265 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: existing three quarter inch hardwood, that beautiful stuff. What we 266 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: do is, instead of sheeting on top of the floor 267 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: joist in a bathroom, we will block some edges and 268 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: will sheet in between the floor joists in the bathroom. 269 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: That saves us three quarters of an inch, which means 270 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: half an inch of back or board on top of 271 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: that and our ceramic tile, and your brand new ceramic 272 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: tile floor ends up floating out flush with the century 273 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: old hardwood, and nobody will ever question that. That's how 274 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: it was done on day one. It'll be beautiful, Your 275 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: feet will love it, everybody will love it, and it's 276 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: worth the effort. So get creative when it comes to 277 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: these kinds of things. You are listening to Home with 278 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: Dean Sharp, the House whisper. 279 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 280 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,119 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty, kaf. 281 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: I AM sixty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You 282 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: are Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisperers. Hey, thank 283 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: you for joining our program this morning. 284 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: It is always good to be with you. It's always good. 285 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: To be a part of starting your weekend outright with 286 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: a friendly voice. That's mine, I mean, that's my intention, 287 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: that's the goal. It is an all calls weekend. We 288 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: are just going to the phones. You're setting the agenda today. 289 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: The number to reach me eight three three two, ask Dean, Hey, Joan, 290 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: welcome home. 291 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: Hi, thank you. 292 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 7: I bought an old house, probably from the thirties in 293 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 7: northern Michigan, and I pretty much have to diy this 294 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 7: whole thing myself. 295 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 8: So it's. 296 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 7: The problem, one of the problems I'm having. There's a 297 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 7: lot of problems. But I pulled all the carpet out 298 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 7: of the house, and it does have some hardwood flooring underneath. 299 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 7: But when I pulled out this carpet that I think 300 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 7: is maybe from the sixties, underneath there's about half an 301 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 7: inch of black soot and black chunks that are like 302 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 7: charcoali from the pad deteriorating, and I mean there's almost 303 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 7: it's thick, and I'm wondering the best and safest way 304 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 7: to get rid of that. 305 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: Well, the safest way to get rid of it is 306 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: mask up, put on your gloves, get a nice floor 307 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: scraper out there, and you know, then scrape it up, 308 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: scrape up what parts you can, get it into bags 309 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: and get it out of there. It is the carpet padding. 310 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: It is especially back in the sixties and seventies was 311 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: the lowest form of easily degradable polyurethane, polyurethane kind of foam, 312 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: rubbery foam. And so as the years roll on, moisture 313 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: in the carpet, pet moisture, pet urine, I mean, every 314 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: imaginable thing works, and especially like in Michigan, temperature changes 315 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: and moisture humidity can just absolutely wipe out a carpet, 316 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: especially a carpet that was laid down in the sixties. 317 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: Wow. 318 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 9: Wow. 319 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: So anyway, yeah, it's pretty much just a mummified mess 320 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: down there, So scrape it up. 321 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 9: Now. 322 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: There may be some parts that are gooey or sticky. 323 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: App Actually that's still just the breakdown of that polyurethane. 324 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: There are adhesive removers that will help you get that 325 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: back up acetone if you just want to get something 326 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 3: right off the shelf. Otherwise you can go with an 327 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: adhesive remover. What is the one and that? In fact, 328 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: we were just doing this not that long ago. Here 329 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: I want to say it was made by let me take. 330 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 10: A look here for you picture. No, I don't have 331 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 10: it here? How did I lose it? 332 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: Oh? Here we go? 333 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: Uh clean Uh the company clean k L. E. A. 334 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: N H makes a great great adhesive remover that now 335 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: you know a little bit of actone and adhesive remover. Also, 336 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: Bostick makes the ultimate adhesive remover. That's the one that 337 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: we use. Bostic B O S T I K. Bostic 338 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: Ultimate Adhesive Remover. Don't over use it because I'm assuming 339 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: you might want to be preserving those hardwood floors underneath, uh, 340 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: and so you don't want to over use it because 341 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: it can get a little but essentially the same material 342 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: that you would use to take off fingernail polish, you know, 343 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 3: acetone is what you want to use on the floor 344 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: with the really sticky stuff, But don't don't fear the 345 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: rest of it. Just the mask up and get it 346 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: all out of there, and then glory in those nineteen 347 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: thirties hardwood floors. That just might make this whole thing worthwhile. 348 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe just shop back it up. 349 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, any anything you can do, 350 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: use a floor scraper for the stuff that's really sticky 351 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: and anything that's gooey, go ahead and use the adhesa 352 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: remover on. 353 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 7: Do you mind if I ask you one quick question? 354 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 4: Sure, real quick? 355 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 7: Okay, what's your opinion? On the Monsanto force field rushing 356 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 7: versus plywood on a roof that's going through winter with 357 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 7: not much. 358 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: Of a pitch. 359 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: Okay, so the Monsanto. 360 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: Roofing shield the weather shields versus just plywood. 361 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like a four x eight and you don't 362 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 7: have to put on the you know, you don't have 363 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 7: to wrap it. It's all just one piece and then 364 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 7: you just put the shingles on top of it. 365 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 366 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: It's a good material. It's a solid material. It's a 367 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: solid concept. Okay, it's got to be applied exactly how 368 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: they spec it. The problem with pre wrapped vapor barrier 369 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: sheets of material is that people often just put them 370 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: together and they ignore the seams. There are details about 371 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: how to do the seams, and you got to do 372 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: the seams. You've got to work those properly so that 373 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: they're all sealed in one to the other. Otherwise you're 374 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: defeating the purpose of the whole thing, you know, being 375 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 3: what it is. And if that's in your budget and 376 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: it's something that's readily available to you, no problem. Otherwise, 377 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: just laying down just standard old plywood and using any 378 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: number of overlapping seam sealed elastimeric roof membranes. It's gonna 379 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: work just fine for you, honestly, gonna work just fine. 380 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: So thank you. 381 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 7: Don't I'm pitch plywood. I don't mean half inch plywood. 382 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: Half inch or five eighths plywood. I'd prefer five eights 383 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: up on a roof so that it maintains its rigidity 384 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: up there and doesn't sag in between roof rafters. So 385 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: we prefer doing a roof in five eights uh, and 386 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: then using you know, a self sealing membrane up there. 387 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: You're gonna be fine, gonna be fine. 388 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you so much. 389 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: Thank you, Joan. Thanks for the call, Michigan. That's fantastic. 390 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: How about some more of your calls when we return. 391 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: You are listening to Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. 392 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: Welcome to home, where every week we help you better 393 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: understand that place where you live. I'm Dean Sharp, the 394 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: House Whisper here with you live like I am every weekend. 395 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: Or whether you are listening. 396 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: To the local broadcast right here in southern California, or 397 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: you're streaming us live from across the country, or if 398 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: you have joined in for another episode of the House 399 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: Whisper Podcast. I am just glad that you are here 400 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: with us. Good morning to you, and welcome home. We 401 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: are doing an all calls weekend. 402 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 4: Let's talk to Dave. Hey, Dave, welcome home. 403 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 8: My family lives in a thirty five hundred square foot 404 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 8: a two story single family house in Orange County at 405 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 8: bill Lyon Home, and we a year ten years ago, 406 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 8: I spent about fifty thousand upgrading the back put, installing 407 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 8: a hard roof, tile floor, granite countertops, at an outdoor 408 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 8: kitchen with three different barbecues and sinks, and our kitchen 409 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 8: needs a similar upgrade. We have hardwood cabinets that we like. 410 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 8: They're oak. We love wood. 411 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 9: We have at nineteen sixty nine at home if I 412 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 9: didn't mention that, and it's got tile countertops, and we 413 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 9: put in a new tile in the floor when we 414 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 9: redid the patio, but the floor is chipping. The tile 415 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 9: was substandard. We need new flooring. We want to replace 416 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 9: our countertops. We want to keep the oak cabinetry, and 417 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 9: we like wood so much that we'd like to go 418 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 9: hardwood countertops. So we'd like your recommendation there. 419 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I got you. 420 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: Well, good on you and for you know, being bold 421 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 3: and wanting to do some cool stuff. So here is 422 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: the thing for just as a general recommendation. And I'll 423 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: get back to this in a second. I have no 424 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: issues whatsoever with hardwood countertops, none, zero issues. I know 425 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 3: people all over southern California are like, oh, oh, we 426 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: would never do that. That's fine, then don't do it. 427 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: But I'm just telling you, as somebody who's been building 428 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: homes and designing homes for you know, almost forty years now, 429 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: hardwood is a brilliant countertop. People are like, well, that 430 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: will never last up to you know, spillage and moisture. 431 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 3: And it's like, well, if you've ever been on a 432 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: boat that has a galley in it, I guarantee you 433 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: this one thing. The countertop on that galley is hardwood. 434 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: If you've ever gone into a pub and sat at 435 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 3: a bar, the bar is hardwood. So yeah, the idea 436 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: that wood doesn't hold up to abuse and or moisture 437 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: is a myth. Now you got to do it right, okay, 438 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: So but there you go. There's my feeling about hardwood countertops, 439 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 3: even so much so that Tina and I half of 440 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: the counters half of them in our kitchen. The specifically, 441 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: the counter that the sink is in is a two 442 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: inch thick walnut, black walnut, and it just oiled, not 443 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: finished with polyurethane or anything, just oiled with mineral oil. 444 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: And it's years old now, and it years and years 445 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: old now and it looks like brand new and all 446 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: we have to do is just reoil it and gaboom. 447 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 3: So anyway, now the trick for you, Dave is going 448 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: to be this. You've got you're thinking about putting hardwood 449 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: floors in the kitchen. You've got oak cabinets, and you're 450 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: thinking about wood. Now that as a wood lover, you 451 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 3: know that's a lot of wood. And so the key 452 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: is this. I'm not going to tell you not to 453 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: do all of that wood, but I am going to 454 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: be very very specific. You need to wisely create contrast 455 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: between the floor, the cabinets and the countertops. So whatever 456 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: color the oak is of the cabinets, that's a lock, 457 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: right because they're all finished out. Whatever color that is, 458 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: you want some contrast in lightness or darkness and in 459 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: intensity of color for the countertops. Number one and number 460 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: two for the floor. If we go oak on oak 461 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: on it, actually the material itself is irrelevant. I would 462 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: not use oak for the countertops just because oak doesn't 463 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: do as well with these things. But the floor, the 464 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: cabinetry and the counter, if you went with the same 465 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: kind of style and the same general tone, you're gonna 466 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: end up with a wood cave. And you don't want 467 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: a wood cave in your kitchen where your kitchen used 468 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: to be. Okay, So in order for it to really pop, 469 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: for it to really shine, for it to really show 470 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: itself off, you just want color contrasts. So if the 471 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: cabinets are staying dark, then you want to go lighter 472 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: with the counter or vice versa. Our cabinets in our 473 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: kitchen are white. They're just there. They're beautiful wood cabinets, 474 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: but they are white. And so the dark wallnuts sitting 475 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: on top of those cabinets, and then we have a 476 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: brick style tile floor underneath them. They all just show 477 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: off and compliment each other, you know, super well. But 478 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: we have done wood on wood on wood before. But 479 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: the key is contrast heavy contrasts so that you don't 480 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: get that cavy, bleed out effect. And so there you go, 481 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: and my recommendation as far as the wood, there are 482 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: several species of hardwoods that work really, really well. You 483 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 3: should just get yourself down to a hardwood specialty shop 484 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: or lumberyard that specializes in hardwoods and check out what 485 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: they've got, and you know, see how you guys feel 486 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: about it, because it's one of the one of the 487 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: fun things about picking out hardwoods for situations like this. 488 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: Every piece is different, you know, it's not just standard lumber. 489 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: And a lot of people are wondering, like, Okay, where 490 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: do I find such things? Cause you know, I didn't 491 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: see anything at the home depot or lows or at 492 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: the lumberyard down the street. Now, first of all, your 493 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: lumber yard down the street may have some, but there 494 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: are shops all over southern California that specialize in these 495 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: kinds of woods. Two things you need to do. One, 496 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: when you're talking about wood that you're gonna use for 497 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: finished products like countertops or furniture, it doesn't come in 498 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: it's not sold in inches by inches. It's actually sold 499 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: in in quarter inches thicknesses. So if you're looking for 500 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: a two inch countertop slab, you're gonna be looking for 501 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: an eight quarter or an eight over four, okay, because 502 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: that's how they're rated. 503 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: That way. 504 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: So if you're looking for an inch and a half, 505 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: it's a six over four. One inch is a four 506 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: over four. That's just lingo. If you walk in, speak 507 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: in the lingo, they're gonna dig you. Where do you 508 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: find it? All over the place. If you're up here 509 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: in eastern Ventory County or the West Valley, then you know, 510 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: get out here to a gore and go to Canao Hardwoods. 511 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: If you're in La Bonhoff Lumber, of course, classic my 512 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: buddy's over at Angel City Lumber. Please go to Angel 513 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: City and check out what they've got. If down in Anaheim, 514 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 3: you've got a lot of choices, among which are California 515 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: Exotic hardwoods, and there are others. There are many, many others, 516 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: but there just gives you a sample of North Valley, 517 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: Northwest Valley, LA, and Orange County. These kinds of places 518 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: are all over the place. The last thing I'm gonna 519 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: tell you is when we do a countertop, my preference 520 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: is not to super seal the wood in terms of 521 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: like putting multiple layers of polyurethane and making it like 522 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: a bar top shiny like I said our would when 523 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: in raw the black walnut, and we just keep it 524 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 3: nicely oiled water beads right on the surface. What if 525 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: it gets scratched, Dean, Well, it's two inch thick hardwood. 526 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: If you end up with a scratch or a gouge 527 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: that you're just like, uh oh, you know what, especially 528 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: if it's only been oiled, you just get out the 529 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: sand paper or a little sand er, a little palm sander, 530 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: and just gently, very very gently massage the area until 531 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: the gouge goes away, reoil it, and you're back in 532 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: the game again. That has not happened to our countertop, 533 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: but you know it could. 534 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: So there you go. 535 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: My friend Dave, thank you for the question, and good 536 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: luck on the kitchen. You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, 537 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: the House Whisper on KFI. This has been Home with 538 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast 539 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: on KFI Am six forty every Saturday morning from six 540 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: to eight Pacific time, and every Sunday morning from nine 541 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: to noon Pacific time, or anytime on demand on the 542 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio app.