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Speaker 1: Mr John Sam John as always your one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 1: These anti Ice lunatics that we live amongst in the

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Speaker 1: Twin Cities are very sad because they're losing their limelight

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Speaker 1: from the theatrical show that they live in every day

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Speaker 1: fantasy land. If you go to Facebook and see all

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Speaker 1: our paranoid posts that Ice is doing all these things still,

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Speaker 1: you'll see the comments by the Joe Blows of the

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Scott as always good to hear from you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, John. I find it funny that Governor Walls

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Speaker 4: wants to sue the federal government for damages, especially if

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Speaker 4: you think that we had three thousand plus agents here

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Speaker 4: to have motel rooms, go to restaurants and visit other

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Speaker 4: stores and facilities that we have in the state. So

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Speaker 4: didn't they bring in a ton of money? Thanks not

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Speaker 4: have a good day.

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Speaker 3: I want to see the breakdown of where they're claiming

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Speaker 3: all of this lost revenue in the state.

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Speaker 2: I just don't buy any of it.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this a bit on Friday, Governor Tim

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Speaker 3: Walls saying that he's going to make the federal government pay.

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Speaker 3: You can't just go and mess the place up and

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Speaker 3: break things and not expect to pay for What did

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Speaker 3: Ice break? What damage did Ice go and do.

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Speaker 2: All of.

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Speaker 3: The mayhem that I've seen has all been taking place

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Speaker 3: not seeing any evidence of what Ice is broken. I

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Speaker 3: and obstructing intersections in South Minneapolis, stringing trash behind during

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Speaker 2: The list goes on and on. I have no idea what.

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Speaker 3: Walls is talking about with this loss of economic revenue,

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Speaker 3: and if he's talking about the businesses, and the businesses

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Speaker 3: especially the ones that win in closed down during the

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Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, John, Barry and andover.

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Speaker 6: So answer this for me. The businesses the left are

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Speaker 6: to lower the expenses to increase their profits. Aren't these

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Speaker 6: literally the kind of companies the left is usually yelling

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Speaker 5: Of course, Nope, it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't need to make any sense on the left though.

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Speaker 3: Whatever furthers the agenda, common sense coc can go out

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Speaker 3: the window. Being a hypocrite is not a negative. It's

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Speaker 3: their world, their alternate universe, wherein they don't have.

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Speaker 2: To go and make sense when it comes to their criticisms.

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Speaker 7: So let me get this straight, John. Companies decide to

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Speaker 7: And now it's our responsibility to build these people and

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Speaker 5: This is unreal.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned several times, as the ICE operations draw down, depending

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Speaker 8: I heard you ask about Operation Metro Surge and CBP

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Speaker 8: grateful that we've found some agreement on what we can

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Speaker 3: The Minnesota Department of Human Services, so that's Minnesota's DHS,

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Speaker 3: attempting to doing that thing with my fingers, correct misleading

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be great if we had a state level

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Speaker 3: In its fact check, DHS pushed back against claims surrounding

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Speaker 3: It's a bit of a tongue twister from the Star Tribune,

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Speaker 3: the state's embattled Department of Human Services DHS, also known

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Speaker 3: as Fraud Central, as a part of the agency's Laughable

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Speaker 3: Program Integrity pr effort. In debunking all these false claims.

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Speaker 2: Water for the left.

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Speaker 3: A review of billing data from the state run medicaid

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Speaker 2: An exception would include when.

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Speaker 3: Officials are required by state or federal law to administer

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Speaker 2: These News Talk and Guaranteed Humans.

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Speaker 3: We've been discussing ice new bills in the legislative session.

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Speaker 3: a moment. Also, programs in tackling fraud here implemented in

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Speaker 3: Realty here on Twin Cities News Talk before we talk

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Speaker 7: Talking about it setting up these new programs to search

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Speaker 7: for fraud and software and AI. All I can say is,

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Speaker 7: remember men lars, remember men lars, Remember Menlars have a

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Speaker 7: great day.

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is, remember min.

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Speaker 10: Lars, John, when you dig into that story that ninety

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Speaker 5: Good morning John, great show.

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Speaker 11: What if there's a school shooter and ICE is in

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, we're not allowed to help.

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Speaker 3: This is with regard to the Fox nine story of

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Speaker 11: Good morning John.

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Speaker 12: It'd be nice if they go into the schools. I mean,

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Speaker 7: That would be a beautiful thing, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: pleased to Welcome to the show. Representative Walter Hudson. Good

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Speaker 3: morn to Walter. How are we doing this morning?

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Speaker 9: Oh, bright eyed, bushy tailed, and ready to start another

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Speaker 3: Quick snapshot expectation going into this legislative session. You think

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Speaker 5: Well, listen.

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Speaker 9: Based upon the posturing put forward buy House Democrats, it

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Speaker 5: Going into the midterm elections.

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Speaker 9: The question is it is underneath the surface of all

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Speaker 5: I hope the answer is yes. There's things we should

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Speaker 9: There's service we should be providing to the folks who

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Speaker 9: Us just to scream at each other and make political points.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, you know, once we get into

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Speaker 3: But I don't expect that you really have a gauge

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Speaker 2: Do you anticipate Let's start here.

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Speaker 3: I was just providing details of this Representative Sidney Jordan

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm sure it'll go to some kind of vote

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Speaker 5: It moving out of committee.

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Speaker 9: it that you're trying to set up?

442
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Speaker 5: Here?

443
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Speaker 9: Are you trying to set up a confrontation between local

444
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Speaker 9: law enforcement.

445
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Speaker 5: And the feds.

446
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Speaker 9: You think that's going to resolve, Well, you think that's productive,

447
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 9: and they haven't thought through that far. I really don't

448
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Speaker 9: think they have, because it's not about how it would

449
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Speaker 9: actually work, Like with so many of the policies that

450
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Speaker 9: they've enacted, it's never about how it would actually work

451
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Speaker 9: on the ground functionally and operationally. It's about how does

452
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Speaker 9: it make me feel? What does it signal in terms

453
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Speaker 9: of my virtue? And so, yeah, I don't see this

454
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Speaker 9: going anywhere in committee. Maybe I'm wrong. There's a couple

455
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Speaker 9: of parliamentary maneuvers that they could pull to try to

456
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Speaker 9: get a vote on the floor, and.

457
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Speaker 5: We'll see how that plays out as well.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about that compared to a bill that

459
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Speaker 3: you are sponsoring along with others residential protesting and potentially

460
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Speaker 3: making this a crime under this proposal juxtappose you know

461
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Speaker 3: what was being presented here by Sidney Jordan to what

462
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Speaker 3: it is that you and others on the Republican side

463
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Speaker 3: are proposing with this bill.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's pretty simple that we have time, place, and

465
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Speaker 9: manner restrictions on speech as an established precedent in case law,

466
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Speaker 9: and it's entirely appropriate to prohibit protest at somebody's residence.

467
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Speaker 9: I don't care who they are This would apply to

468
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Speaker 9: every person in Minnesota, every residence in Minnesota. It's not

469
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Speaker 9: an appropriate time, plays or manner for you to be

470
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Speaker 9: engaging in proest. There are plenty of other ways in

471
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Speaker 9: your twenty twenty six to make your voice heard and

472
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Speaker 9: to register your dissent from whatever it is that you

473
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Speaker 9: feel people are doing that you disagree with the idea

474
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Speaker 9: that you're going to go to their house and disturb

475
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Speaker 9: the peaceful enjoyment of their property and terrorize neighbors and

476
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Speaker 9: children and family should be completely outside the bounds of

477
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Speaker 9: what we consider acceptable behavior in polite society.

478
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Speaker 5: Other states have done this. It makes total sense.

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Speaker 9: It has no encroachment whatsoever upon the First Amendment. You

480
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Speaker 9: don't have a First Amendment right to come into my

481
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Speaker 9: house and start yelling me in my bed. Right, same

482
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Speaker 9: thing goes with my property more generally.

483
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Speaker 3: Well, and I think it'll speak volumes for those that

484
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Speaker 3: want to push back and disagree with this as well.

485
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen how this has spiraled. I mean

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Speaker 3: you mentioned it, Walter talking on Representative Walter Hudson. We've

487
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Speaker 3: seen how this has spiraled out of control to something

488
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Speaker 3: that wouldn't first occurred.

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Speaker 2: It was not necessarily a common occurrence.

490
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Speaker 3: It was very infrequent that this would pop up, and

491
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Speaker 3: at the time it was roundly criticized by both left

492
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Speaker 3: and right. But we've entered into a completely different realm

493
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Speaker 3: relating to protesting at the moment wherein I'm agreeing with you.

494
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Speaker 3: I think that we need to have some provisions like

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Speaker 3: this to re establish what had been before all of this,

496
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Speaker 3: a societal standard that we used to sort of self

497
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Speaker 3: govern and tragically we just don't do that, do that anymore.

498
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can actually speak larger to the issue

499
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Speaker 3: of what we've been dealing with in terms of the

500
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Speaker 3: obstructing a vice agent since Operation Metro Surge started. So

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Speaker 3: good on you guys for putting this forward. And I'm

502
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Speaker 3: interested to see what the complaints are going to be

503
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Speaker 3: from the left moving forward on this particular Bill Walter

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Speaker 3: Osen Well.

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Speaker 5: You and me both.

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Speaker 9: I am very curious to see when who knows, maybe

507
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Speaker 9: they'll embrace it because this benefits them as well. Right,

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Speaker 9: I don't know why anybody on either side of the

509
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Speaker 9: aisle would want to have to front a mob of

510
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Speaker 9: people surrounding their house and terrorizing their kids and disturbing

511
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Speaker 9: their neighbor's ability to.

512
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Speaker 5: Enjoy their property.

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Speaker 9: So if they want to argue in favor of that,

514
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Speaker 9: that'll certainly be fascinating to conjure. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 9: I can't imagine what that argument could possibly be. That

516
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Speaker 9: that isn't that makes any sort of internal logical or

517
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Speaker 9: legal sense.

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Speaker 3: Well, especially Walter Hudson, considering how so much of what

519
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Speaker 3: has been taking place over the course of the past

520
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Speaker 3: few weeks, the left has used the excuse or motivation

521
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Speaker 3: justification of you know, we're protecting our neighbors and ice

522
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Speaker 3: is coming into our neighborhoods and disrupting our lives. So

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Speaker 3: it would seem as if maybe you're right, maybe there

524
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Speaker 3: will be some individuals that will hop on board, because

525
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Speaker 3: they certainly have been very upset over what's been taking

526
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Speaker 3: place in neighborhoods because of ICE's presence. So that would

527
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Speaker 3: at least make me believe that they care about, you know,

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Speaker 3: what actually happens in residential areas regarding this type of activity.

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Speaker 5: I mean, one could be optimistic.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, it certainly seems as though the actual rule that

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Speaker 9: they follow is that they get to do whatever they want.

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Speaker 5: And the rules only apply to us. So we'll see

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Speaker 5: so on.

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Speaker 2: The legislative session.

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Speaker 3: And then I do want to talk to you a

536
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Speaker 3: little bit about what's transpired here with Operation Metro Surg

537
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Speaker 3: because we haven't had a chance to really chat about this,

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Speaker 3: and I know you've been very active online in terms

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Speaker 3: of putting a commentary out. I'd like to discuss that

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Speaker 3: with you as well. This is not a budget year,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, so the legislature doesn't need to go and

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Speaker 3: pass a budget. Obviously the state's finances are not in

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Speaker 3: good shape. It is a bonding year, however, So talk

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Speaker 3: a little bit about your expectations in this legislative session,

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Speaker 3: and I guess Representative Walter Hudson more specifically, what would

546
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Speaker 3: you like to see happen regardless of what transpires, you know,

547
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Speaker 3: not being a budget year, we do have to deal

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Speaker 3: with the bonding issue. What is it that you would

549
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Speaker 3: like to see how and during this legislative session.

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Speaker 9: Well, I do think we have a lot of critical

551
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Speaker 9: infrastructure needs in the state that we should be spending

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Speaker 9: our time addressing with a serious bonding bill that looks

553
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Speaker 9: at things like you know, water and sewage and you know,

554
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Speaker 9: roads and bridges and things that are that are actually

555
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Speaker 9: critically needed in communities around the state. It would be

556
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Speaker 9: it would be amazing if we can set aside all

557
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Speaker 9: the bs to actually do our jobs for once, So

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Speaker 9: I think that should be a priority. There's tax conformity

559
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Speaker 9: issues obviously with che which is a pretty routine thing,

560
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Speaker 9: even though it will be made political because you know,

561
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Speaker 9: it's an opportunity to shout about Oige man bad, but

562
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Speaker 9: that's something that needs to happen early on as well.

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Speaker 9: And then there's all sorts of other policy changes that

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Speaker 9: I think would be beneficial to Minnesotan's you know, this

565
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Speaker 9: residential protest thing is one another bill we're going to

566
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Speaker 9: be hearing tomorrow is a bill.

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Speaker 5: To provide aggravated.

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Speaker 9: Sentencing for folks who engage in multiple crimes in possession

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Speaker 9: of a weapon, which I think is something that would

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Speaker 9: go a long way towards making our streets safer. I

571
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Speaker 9: know that Democrats typically don't like to put bad guys

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Speaker 9: in jail, but that's kind of how you keep them

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Speaker 9: away from the good guys. So I'd like to think

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Speaker 9: that there's a potential to do something there. There's a

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Speaker 9: number of things that I'd personally interested in surrounding family

576
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Speaker 9: law and parental custody where I think there's an opportunity

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Speaker 9: for bipartisan consideration, and those conversations have already begun. Again

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Speaker 9: under the surface, not glossy, not showy, just the real

579
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Speaker 9: legislative work. So again, it all depends on how serious

580
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Speaker 9: people want to be. There's going to be the theatrics,

581
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Speaker 9: there's going to be the bloviating, there's going to be

582
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Speaker 9: the kabuki theater. But underneath the surface, in the quiet

583
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Speaker 9: corners of the capital, how serious are certain members on

584
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Speaker 9: either side going to be willing to be in order

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Speaker 9: to actually get work done that benefits Minesota.

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Speaker 3: We have a couple love comments that have come in

587
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Speaker 3: talk back to the iHeart Radio at mine.

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Speaker 2: If we take a few of these, Walter, sure.

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Speaker 13: Please tell me you're not trying to advocate for restriction

590
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Speaker 13: of protesting on public property. No matter where it is,

591
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Speaker 13: we cannot go there private property, But if it's in

592
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Speaker 13: some neighborhood on a public street, you cannot stifle that.

593
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Speaker 13: It's in the constitution.

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Speaker 3: Where's the nuance, Walter Hudson in the bill that you're

595
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Speaker 3: proposing relating to protesting.

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Speaker 9: For whatever reason, I wasn't able to clearly hear the talkback,

597
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Speaker 9: but I got the gist of the argument is that

598
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Speaker 9: you can do whatever you want on a public street.

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Speaker 5: That's utterly ridiculous. Of course, you can't do whatever you

600
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Speaker 5: want on a public street.

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Speaker 9: Public streets are public property. And this is one of

602
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Speaker 9: my favorite kind of ridiculous premises that people think their

603
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Speaker 9: constitutional authorities when they talk about public property. You know

604
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Speaker 9: you have a public library. Guess what you can't do

605
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 9: go there at four in the morning to check out

606
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Speaker 9: a book because it's closed.

607
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 9: There are rules, Yes, there are rules that govern the

609
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Speaker 9: use of public property. And a public road is there

610
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Speaker 9: to be used for transportation, and specifically for lawful transportation

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Speaker 9: relevant to the folks who live in that area.

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Speaker 5: You don't have a right to just.

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Speaker 9: Go into any neighborhood and start making a ruckets.

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Speaker 5: It's called disturbing the peace.

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Speaker 9: I mean you can make if you want to make

616
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Speaker 9: a good argument against this law that I'm proposing. The

617
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 9: good argument would be that we already have laws in

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Speaker 9: place but that could be enforced that would prevent this

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Speaker 9: from happening. The problem is they don't get in for it,

620
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Speaker 9: and so we need to specify it more.

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Speaker 3: Clearly here's another one along those same lines, talking the

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Speaker 3: representative of Walter Hudson.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, John Rich Here, So Walter Hudson is proposing

624
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Speaker 9: a bill that they can't protest at people's homes?

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Speaker 2: Can we also that the church issue? So we have

626
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Speaker 2: a federal law, Yes, but how about a state law with.

627
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Speaker 5: Some teeth to it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard that one. But again

630
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Speaker 3: to the bill you're proposing. He's out talking about the

631
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Speaker 3: church issue. We have a federal law, but what about

632
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Speaker 3: a state law regarding being able to conduct a protest

633
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: inside of a church?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Before that, I think it probably would be a separate

636
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Speaker 9: bill in this case, because you're you end up mutting

637
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Speaker 9: the waters of you know, angles from which to attack it.

638
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think that again Again, similarly, a good

639
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Speaker 9: argument against that is that we already have laws in place,

640
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Speaker 9: they just need to be enforced, and so.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't mean it's not worthwhile to pursue. But at

642
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Speaker 5: the same time.

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Speaker 9: The real problem here, the real underlying problem, is that

644
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Speaker 9: we don't have local authorities that are willing to force

645
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Speaker 9: the law. Now out here in Wright County that's not

646
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Speaker 9: a problem, but the closer you get to the city,

647
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 9: the more of a problem it is, and people find

648
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Speaker 9: themselves living in more or less a state of nature

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Speaker 9: whereby anybody who's protesting for the right cause can get

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Speaker 9: away with doing whatever they.

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Speaker 2: Want before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: Today, I'm talking with Representative Walter Hudson. I know you've

653
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Speaker 3: been very active putting commentary up online. I wuld encourage

654
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Speaker 3: everybody to follow you on X. Is there anywhere else

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Speaker 3: online where people can go and find out in terms

656
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Speaker 3: of the commentary that you've been putting out there, especially

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Speaker 3: in the wake of Operation Metro Surge and what's been

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Speaker 3: transpiring here in the state as of late.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, my primary platform has been YouTube, So just go

660
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Speaker 9: on YouTube and just look me up. Walter Hadson should

661
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Speaker 9: pop up pretty quick. And I try to put out

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Speaker 9: stuff on a fairly regular basis, and the whole lot

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Speaker 9: premise behind it is to dig just a layer deeper

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Speaker 9: underneath the issue, as opposed to just telling you what

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Speaker 9: I think about it, telling you why I think that way,

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Speaker 9: why things work the way they work a little behind

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Speaker 9: the scenes of some of these issues and occurrences that happen,

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Speaker 9: and people seem to enjoy it. It's been relatively successful

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Speaker 9: and I appreciate people's patronage well.

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Speaker 3: And last thing this morning, again talking to the Representative

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Speaker 3: Walter Hudson, you know, never letting a manufacturing crisis go

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Speaker 3: to waste. We do see the Operation Metro Surge drawing down,

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Speaker 3: although you hear a lot of individuals on the left

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Speaker 3: saying we don't know if they're leaving for sure, don't

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Speaker 3: believe the hype. In the meantime, you've got Governor Tim Walls.

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Speaker 3: He wants a bailout of businesses for whatever math they're

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Speaker 3: using to come up with this number that they say

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Speaker 3: the economy has been negatively impacted here in the state,

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Speaker 3: directly tied to the actions of the federal law enforcement officials.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, you know, do you have a quick

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Speaker 3: thirty thousand foot view of what's transpired and more recently,

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Speaker 3: this desire by Governor Tim Walls to essentially go and

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Speaker 3: bail out these businesses because as he said last week,

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Speaker 3: you know, you can't just go and break a bunch

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Speaker 3: of stuff to pay for it. And he thinks the

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Speaker 3: federal government shou just step in and have to pay

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Speaker 3: for their actions here during Operation Metro Surge.

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Speaker 5: It's an utterly ridiculous premise.

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Speaker 9: It's a repeat of twenty twenty when he let the

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Speaker 9: city burn for three days and then turned around and

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Speaker 9: tried to sit in the bill to Washington, DC. This

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Speaker 9: is even more egregious because this was an entirely contrived chaos,

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Speaker 9: and it was contrived from the top down by Governor Walls,

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Speaker 9: by Mayor Jacob fry, By Keith, Attorney General Keith Ellison,

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Speaker 9: all out there delegitimizing the authority of Ice, engaging an

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Speaker 9: insurrectionist rhetoric, supporting and encouraging people to take to the

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Speaker 9: streets to commit federal crimes. The stuff that was broke

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Speaker 9: in Minnesota was broke by them. It was broke by

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Speaker 9: the Democrats. It was broke by the left. You don't

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Speaker 9: get to blame the fence for doing their job. This

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Speaker 9: didn't happen in any other state. It only happened here.

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Speaker 5: Why is that?

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Speaker 9: It's because of our ridiculous insurrection is leadership. And they

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Speaker 9: can pay their own damn bills.

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Speaker 3: Say Representative Walter Hudson. As always, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for the time this morning. I look forward to getting

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Speaker 3: caught up on the legislative session when time is available

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Speaker 3: for you. Good luck as you head to us Saint

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Speaker 3: Paul later today. Godspeed to you and everybody else. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: this ends up being a productive legislative session. But this

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Speaker 3: is me sitting here talking to you, not holding my breath.

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Speaker 3: But I appreciate the time this morning, my friend.

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Speaker 5: No problem, Take care all right?

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Speaker 3: Coming up, A woman says her partner passed away following

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Speaker 3: mised treatments due to ice. Also, ice tactics being questioned

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Speaker 3: after a Brooklyn park man was lured from his own

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Speaker 3: en detained. I'll give you details on that and quick comments.

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Speaker 3: Barack Obama stirred things up over the weekend saying that

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Speaker 3: aliens were real in a recent podcast. I want to

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Speaker 3: share some thoughts on this and we'll get to your

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