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Speaker 4: Welcome Back final hours upon us nine to noon and

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Speaker 4: patiently awaiting the arrival of head coach Kevin O'Connell. XES

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Speaker 4: and o's with head coach Kevin O'Connell on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 4: You hear it on Wednesday evenings of course, but it'll

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Speaker 4: be live nine to noon and these six and three Bears.

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Speaker 4: I thought we did a good job kind of kind

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Speaker 4: of laying out just some of the oddities of this

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Speaker 4: six and three Bears team. Next up on the docket

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Speaker 4: at noon or at US Banks Stadium, impromptu performance the

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Speaker 4: analyst and Chicago Land native Pete Bursich hanging out in

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Speaker 4: studio for a couple of minutes when we open the

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Speaker 4: show today, just kind of looking into the oddities of

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Speaker 4: the Bears. Whether this is a defense Pete that has

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Speaker 4: twenty takeaways a plus fourteen in the.

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Speaker 5: Take give, No, they don't give it away.

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Speaker 2: They don't give it away at all.

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Speaker 5: They take it, but they don't give it.

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Speaker 6: That's that's a the other side to that other edge

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Speaker 6: to that blade exactly.

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Speaker 4: And it's so they're they're very selfish, but apparently in

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Speaker 4: a good way from that part of things. But this

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Speaker 4: run game, man, it's like one hundred and eighty on

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Speaker 4: the ground over this four and one stretch since the bye.

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Speaker 4: Very different team, I think even than what we saw

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Speaker 4: week one at Soldier Field. What are some things that

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Speaker 4: pop for you with the Bears in town this weekend?

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Speaker 6: All right? What do you want to begin to talk

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Speaker 6: about offensively? That offensive line? THEO benedet I believe is

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Speaker 6: how you pronounce it. Canadian kid played left tackle. He's okay, okay,

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Speaker 6: he'd be a guy to go after. Toony's good, Dolmond's good.

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Speaker 6: Jonah Jackson, we know of them. Darnell Wright is kind

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Speaker 6: of a jekylin hide where some you'll you'll see he's

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Speaker 6: He's the guy that you're gonna see the the Twitter

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Speaker 6: highlights on about him just killing people. Sure, but what

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Speaker 6: they don't show you are the five times he takes

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Speaker 6: a swing and a miss. Right, So yeah, a good front.

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Speaker 6: Not the best offensive line that we've seen, but but

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Speaker 6: certainly not bad. I think what stands out to me

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Speaker 6: watching them is just how Ben Johnson is, uh aggressive,

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Speaker 6: That's what's That's what he's trying to implement and change

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Speaker 6: with this with this Bears team. Fourth down and whatever,

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Speaker 6: we're going for it, we're you know, we we gotta

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Speaker 6: we get a turnover. They get a turnover against I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: I had a fourth down stop right at midfield against

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Speaker 6: the against the Giants. What's the next play I'm sorry

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Speaker 6: was after a turnover?

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Speaker 5: Go deep? Yeah, throwing it deep.

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Speaker 6: DJ DJ Moore is the guy, right, So he's trying

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Speaker 6: to instill that attitude in this Bears offense. Take what

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Speaker 6: we saw in which we haven't seen out of Chicago

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Speaker 6: maybe ever so maybe since they invented the forward pass,

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Speaker 6: we haven't seen this type of you know, aggressive down

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Speaker 6: the field passing game from a Bears team, and he's

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Speaker 6: trying to get them to do that. We've seen the

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Speaker 6: Lions progress from you know, the loser Lions to what

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Speaker 6: they are now, and you're kind of seeing an unfold

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Speaker 6: in front of you. You know in front of your eyes

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Speaker 6: right now. So just a different attitude. All right, well

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Speaker 6: I got I've been up, I've been you surped.

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Speaker 7: Yes you have that. Hey, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Pete Bursage at Pete Bursich I in the Sky podcast

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Speaker 4: on YouTube, not the Allen Parsons project, but the Pete

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Speaker 4: Bursage project. You can search via YouTube at Pete Bursige

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Speaker 4: five six and of course you can hear him Mondays

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Speaker 4: hopefully after a Vikings victory this upcoming Monday, thanks to

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Speaker 4: Sue Cup Manufacturing.

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Speaker 2: Always appreciate Pete Bursich's.

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Speaker 4: Inclusion nine to noon as as I get my head

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Speaker 4: out of the camera's way and uh we just we

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Speaker 4: we yield.

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Speaker 2: The floor to the box. And the coach, Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 2: it x's And if you're hearing it live on Tuesday, welcome.

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Speaker 2: and o's, welcome to you too. And the head coach

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Speaker 2: joins us, Now, how are the wife and kids. And

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Speaker 2: how are Bill and Suzanne doing well?

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Speaker 8: No pool jumps this past weekend as you as you saw,

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Speaker 8: my dad after the Lions game jumped in his non

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Speaker 8: everybody did. But unfortunately, no no pool pool jumps this

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Speaker 2: But there was there was some pool jumping. Yeah there

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Speaker 2: was pool though, but no diving board.

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Speaker 7: No, that's right, yeah, no it was.

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Speaker 8: You know, they're doing well, kids are doing well, excellent,

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Speaker 8: fighting through a little got some got a sick kid

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Speaker 8: at home, but you know we're fighting through it a

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Speaker 8: little bit for you any listeners out there going through

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, so you have sick kid, which means you're

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Speaker 2: But like a lot of things, it too shall pass,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of things. And and we welcome Kevin

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Speaker 2: Bill and Suzanne plaid. Things are well, Leah and the

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Speaker 5: How's that happening?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think they you know, they've given up some yards,

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Speaker 8: they've owned up some plays, but they have really, you know,

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Speaker 7: If you think about it.

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Speaker 8: Defensively, we were leading the league in turnovers and it

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Speaker 8: felt like all those extra possessions gave us a lot

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Speaker 7: And I think it's been very similar.

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Speaker 8: You know, they've been able to force some big turnovers

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Speaker 8: I think has kind of really centered on, hey, we're

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Speaker 8: going to force turnovers. We might give up a play

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Speaker 8: forcing turnovers getting to the quarterback at times. They've got

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Speaker 2: I heard the press conference yesterday and I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: how can the league look at that sack and find

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Speaker 2: any problem with it? And as a teacher like you are,

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Speaker 2: you're a coach, but you're a teacher, Well, how does

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Speaker 2: one teach and subsequently how does one learn to avoid

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're here a lot during training camp, Pa Pete,

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Speaker 8: I think you're here every day, but you guys will

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Speaker 8: simulating getting to the quarterback, you know, striking and legally

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Speaker 8: you know, understanding where the strike zone is. And then

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Speaker 8: the last phase of it that has become a big

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Speaker 8: part of the league of protecting quarterbacks is that you know,

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Speaker 8: part of roughing the passer that you know, if if

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Speaker 8: I've talked to a lot of our former you know,

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Speaker 8: the world can that be a penalty? But the way

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Speaker 8: the line by line rule of rough in the passer

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Speaker 8: is now, it is indeed a penalty. And you just

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Speaker 8: got to try to find a way to slide, you know,

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Speaker 8: sounds like it's gonna lead to a face mask and well,

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Speaker 7: And that's just part of it.

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Speaker 8: But it makes it very difficult for these guys to

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Speaker 2: It, okay, well, and this is you know, this is

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Speaker 2: game at Ford Field, honestly, I thought there were two

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Speaker 2: So that this is just trying to get a hold

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Speaker 5: I I just don't understand. Well, I think the press conference.

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Speaker 8: Yesterday, kay, we've had some you know, we had a

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Speaker 8: based upon some of those interpretations, we're trying to you know,

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Speaker 8: and you have to try to make that legal. They

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Speaker 8: determined it wasn't. There was a there was some levels

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Speaker 8: to it that kind of seemed like they were working

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Speaker 8: through it. But what I've learned in my four years

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Speaker 8: be just different interpretations of how they see, depending on formations,

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Speaker 7: And that's part of football.

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Speaker 8: But it's also it's also you know, some of those

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Speaker 2: I mean, the way you just explain that and as

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Speaker 8: Hey, well, that's the thing with the block shots is

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Speaker 7: It doesn't make it any easier for any of us.

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Speaker 2: That's Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. This

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Speaker 2: is nine to now. We have a talkback coming a

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Speaker 2: little later on a talkback Tuesday for the head coach,

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Speaker 2: and he did mention fall starts, so end of the equation,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they weren't at all.

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Speaker 8: But there was other examples. I mean, there was one

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I just know we've got we've got the group

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Speaker 7: And that's where we're at in the season.

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Speaker 7: Ready to go Sunday.

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Speaker 8: But We've got to start seeing it consistently to give

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Speaker 8: At least in the short term things that you know,

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Speaker 8: over the last few games you're thinking about as a

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Speaker 8: coach of.

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Speaker 7: And I know Flow thinks about them.

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Speaker 8: How do we continue to find ways to cause disruption

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Speaker 8: and see if we can get opportunities at the football.

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Speaker 7: Those things have a way of working out.

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Speaker 8: And if you know, if we if they awarded the

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Speaker 8: you know, the turnover margin winner at this point, you know,

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of teams would sign up for that.

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Speaker 7: We would not be one of them.

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Speaker 8: We want to go ahead and get this thing back

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Speaker 8: where it belongs. It's a very very important thing. I

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Speaker 8: look at every game with this year's team as a

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Speaker 8: line of scrimmage game from a standpoint of, you know,

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Speaker 8: our our fronts on both sides of the ball having

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Speaker 8: an impact on the other team's front, and then Pa,

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Speaker 8: we got to be all about the ball. We got

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Speaker 8: we got to start winning the turnover battle. We're thirty

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Speaker 8: three and four when we break even or better since

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Speaker 8: I've been coaching this team, and you show up to

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Speaker 8: the stadium even, and that's on us to keep it

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Speaker 8: that way or improve our standards there.

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Speaker 2: Chicago is oh and too. The year versus the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: The last five, the Bears out of the by four

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Speaker 2: and one, lost to the Ravens with Tyler Huntley not

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. Last five, they've run one at one eighty

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Speaker 2: five eclipse under and eighty five yards eclip. What what's

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Speaker 2: that doing to help them win?

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Speaker 8: Well, they're they're they're running the ball, They're running all

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Speaker 8: the complimentary plays off of their run game. I think

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Speaker 8: their O line has really gelled when you watch them,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think the acquisitions they made in the offseason.

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Speaker 8: I think their right tackles. You know, Darnell's turning into

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Speaker 8: one of the better right tackles in football, and they

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Speaker 8: and they they were able to kind of solidify that

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Speaker 8: left tackle spot that seemed to be kind of up

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Speaker 8: for grabs there for a little bit. But they're playing,

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Speaker 8: they're gelling, and then I think what that's allowing them

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Speaker 8: is not to be so drop back oriented in the

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Speaker 8: early downs. You're just you're seeing a lot more of

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Speaker 8: the deeper play actions. You're seeing a lot more of

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Speaker 8: the keepers, the movement game, the screen game off of

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Speaker 8: their run game. And you know what we've got to

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Speaker 8: try to do is stop that run game and force

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Speaker 8: them to be a little bit more of a one

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Speaker 8: dimensional team, you know, by putting them behind the chains

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Speaker 8: first and fifteen second and longs things like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, uh Wide reserve wide receiver DJ Morris three touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: one receiving, one rushing, one passing. The Jefferson pass Sunday

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Speaker 2: was a beauty. How do you know when to run

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Speaker 2: tricks like that?

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Speaker 8: Well, you're you're attempting to call them in uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: in moments where we've had we've had several called this

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Speaker 8: year where we just didn't get the look and we

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Speaker 8: end up, you know, canning the play, changing the play

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Speaker 8: to something else and coming back to it again and

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Speaker 8: trying to get the look and trying to get the look.

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Speaker 8: That was a little bit more of a longer yardage

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Speaker 8: situation where kind of a breather play for JJ where

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Speaker 8: he doesn't have to drop back and read the defense

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Speaker 8: and make protection calls, and we elicit the response that

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Speaker 8: Justin gets when we throw them the ball. Now, ideally,

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Speaker 8: you know, in a world where you get the exact

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Speaker 8: look you want for the play and there's one player

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Speaker 8: to block and you have three linemen to block them,

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Speaker 8: ideally you'd like to find a way to get those

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Speaker 8: yards to sub hurt and then we would have started

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Speaker 8: the game four or four on third down and what

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Speaker 8: does that look like? There was some frustration there just overall,

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Speaker 8: just you know, one or two guys just understanding a

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Speaker 8: little bit more about you know, what we were looking

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Speaker 8: for there.

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Speaker 7: And that's on me.

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Speaker 8: That's got to give the clarity to these guys, because

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Speaker 8: I know when I do it, they.

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Speaker 7: Respond and perform.

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Speaker 2: Saving the best for last, it involves the Jalens first,

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Speaker 2: the guy on offense.

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Speaker 5: Here's the talkback. Good morning, coach O'Connell.

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Speaker 9: This is Corey from Thelouf, Minnesota. That Jalen naylor performances

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Speaker 9: past Sunday against the Ravens was absolutely electric. My question

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Speaker 9: for you is going forward, will opposing defenses have to

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Speaker 9: pay more attention to Speedy and will that open up

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Speaker 9: more targets for Jets Addison and Hockinson.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for your time and I hope you have a

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Speaker 7: great day.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Bob.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great question.

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Speaker 8: And really we've been you know, you and I have

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Speaker 8: talked about Speedy a lot on this show. Just any

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Speaker 8: chance I get publicly to talk about him, because it's

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Speaker 8: not always.

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Speaker 2: Since two preseasons ago when you featured him in the preseason.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just not always.

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Speaker 8: The ball doesn't always find him, but it did this

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Speaker 8: past Sunday, and and and he was, you know, absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 8: Some third down some big third down plays, some explosives

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Speaker 8: and and and Speedy is just playing fast, he's playing

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Speaker 8: through contact. He's getting a lot of one on ones

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Speaker 8: because of Jordan and Justin and TJ.

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Speaker 7: And there's a lot of featured coverage to take away

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Speaker 7: some of those guys.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes and Speedy goes to work in those moments and

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Speaker 8: we got to continue to give him opportunities to do that.

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Speaker 8: But yes, I think the second part of that question

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Speaker 8: is accurate. You've got to really decide, you know, when

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Speaker 8: we're able to throw the ball outside of our consistent

545
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Speaker 8: commitment to running the ball, you got to really decide

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Speaker 8: how you want to handle the weapons that we do have,

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Speaker 8: because justin Jordan Speedy, tj Aaron Jones out of the

548
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Speaker 8: backfield have proven to be playmakers that can change the

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Speaker 8: game at any time and really elicit a response from

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Speaker 8: the defense that helps kind of make everything go. And

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Speaker 8: we've just got to find a way to make those

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Speaker 8: plays eliminate the negatives. Run the football consistently, and when

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Speaker 8: we get to those weighty downs and those third downs,

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Speaker 8: those red zone opportunities like we did in the game

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Speaker 8: the other day, Jalen Naylor had two big conversions on

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Speaker 8: third down and he had a fourth down touchdown when

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Speaker 8: we absolutely had to have it to keep that game

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Speaker 8: within reach.

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Speaker 2: And lastly, the Jalen's saving the best for last. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, the early part of the game, I think

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Speaker 2: he had six tackles in a quarter and a half

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Speaker 2: something like that.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Redmond was all over the place.

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Speaker 7: He's been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: The story is unbelievable if you get into the depth

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Speaker 2: of the blood clots and his best friend died at

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Speaker 2: age twenty three, and you know everybody gave up on him.

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Speaker 2: Carolina made it exposed him not a negative way, but

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Speaker 2: other teams can come get him. You know, he had

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Speaker 2: a calf strain. Couldn't figure out what was going on.

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Speaker 2: It was blood related. Quiet going kind of guy, but

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Speaker 2: he is just a rolling ball of butcher knives on

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Speaker 2: that defensive line getting around, specifically these bigger offensive linemen.

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Speaker 2: I thought in the first half, I thought, that's as

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Speaker 2: good a work against the run as I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: him do.

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Speaker 7: And he's lined up absolutely everywhere.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you've seen him at defensive end, you've seen

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Speaker 8: him at nose, you've seen him at three technique. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he is capable of just about anything. And we really

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Speaker 8: have needed that just with the versatility of Jalen Redman

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Speaker 8: allows Hargrave and Jonathan Allen to be not only in

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Speaker 8: their multiple spots they're comfortable at, but playing the play

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Speaker 8: style that we brought them here to do and that's

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Speaker 8: been big over these last couple of weeks seeing that

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Speaker 8: come to life. But I'm so glad you asked about him,

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Speaker 8: and he has been a phenomenal, phenomenal story. And if

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Speaker 8: you see him walking the halls around here, he's never

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Speaker 8: ever had a bad day, you know, since.

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Speaker 7: I've had him.

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Speaker 5: Same with Elijah Williams.

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Speaker 8: It's it's it really is remarkable because those guys have Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, I've seen some d lineman now have some

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Speaker 8: bad days just because they got to be down there

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Speaker 8: in the trenches all day long. But Jalen Redmond has

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Speaker 8: had some swagger about him and his performances have been fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Why why I.

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Speaker 2: Laughed when I mentioned Elijah up undrafted from Morgan State,

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Speaker 2: worked his tail op at the active roster. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he had been on too many airplanes, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's like he was so wide eyed with these cities

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Speaker 2: teams get to fly to in the hotels and the wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just so authentic and fantastic, just like

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Speaker 2: Jalen Redmond, just like you tear it up this weekend,

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Speaker 2: all right, appreciate you and we will preview lambeau.

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Speaker 5: Field next week.

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Speaker 2: just respectfully move Pete Bursig from a chair kind of

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Speaker 2: like it reminded me of a story you told this

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Speaker 2: morning at a speaking engagement you and I had together

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Speaker 2: at the museum about about well, why don't you share it?

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Speaker 2: It was about when you were at Notre Dame you

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Speaker 2: got benched or something like that.

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Speaker 6: What happened. Well, here's a fascinating story. My sophomore year,

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Speaker 6: I'm playing. I'm playing middle linebacker with with Gary Darnell

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Speaker 6: as our defensive coordinator. It was four to three stack

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Speaker 6: blah blah blah. I had a great I ended up

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Speaker 6: starting nine games my sophomore year. Jim Flanagan and I

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Speaker 6: who ended up playing for the Bears and the forty

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Speaker 6: nine ers were fighting over to play linebacker. You know,

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Speaker 6: you win that battle, right, and you win that battle,

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Speaker 6: you play and you have a great year. And then

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Speaker 6: Darnell leaves and we bring in we bring in a

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Speaker 6: different defensive coordinator. Demetris Dubo's gets suspended, so I move

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Speaker 6: over to his spot. And then you go through three games,

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Speaker 6: Demetrius comes back and they leave the other guy where

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Speaker 6: he was, Tony Peterson, And then I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 5: Well where am I going?

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Speaker 7: Well happened.

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Speaker 5: They're like, what exactly?

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Speaker 6: What now? If I had gone and the team was

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Speaker 6: really good by the way, yeah, well yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: if we if we had a top three in the country,

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Speaker 6: if we had if something would have if I had

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Speaker 6: done something, I'd have been like, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 5: But nothing happened.

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Speaker 6: So every time and I got we all got benched

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Speaker 6: a million times because lou would come down. You would,

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Speaker 6: you would literally get benched every every couple of weeks. Seriously,

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Speaker 6: he'd come over to the defense. He'd be like, yes, Sah,

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Speaker 6: get him out, get him out, coach, and then he'd

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Speaker 6: pull you out.

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Speaker 5: Another guy comes in and then he'd leave and I'm like, hey,

660
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 5: just screwed up too. He just did the exact same

661
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 5: thing I did. But you're over there, so you know, right,

662
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: So it's so.

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Speaker 6: And then every time I got benched, I went to

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Speaker 6: his office and I knocked on the door, I came in,

665
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 6: I sat down, I said, coach, what do I gotta

666
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 6: do to get back on the field.

667
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: And then I'd just sit back.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't listen to a word he said, I just

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Speaker 6: sit back. I just want him to know that it

671
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 6: pissed me off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, as you shared this morning that every

673
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Speaker 2: seeded you made a mistake acting like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, that wasn't the right way to act.

675
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Speaker 6: Well, the thing, and I guess the thing was in

676
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Speaker 6: my point was you there's certain there's certain times in

677
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 6: life where those things happen. You have a choice, you

678
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 6: have you either you either quit, move on, do something else,

679
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 6: or you just keep going. And I just I chose

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00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: to keep going because I knew I couldn't live with

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Speaker 6: myself if I quit, if I put everything I got

682
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Speaker 6: into something it's like And that's why I brought up

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Speaker 6: the ninety eight the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 7: Right.

685
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 6: I played special teams all the time, and then Eddie

686
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 6: McDaniel got hurt. So I was in there for you know,

687
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 6: I was done. I was toast. And when I got

688
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: kicked that field goal and I saw it go through it,

689
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: I was like, Hey, there's nothing more I could have

690
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 6: possibly done. And that really is the only way you

691
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 6: could live without having regrets in that regard. And so

692
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 6: just being too dumb to quit. That's the whole Rudy thing.

693
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Speaker 6: That was the whole point of the root of the

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Speaker 6: movie Rudy.

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Speaker 5: Right.

696
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Speaker 6: I know, his whole family, his brothers have done more

697
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 6: remarkable things than he did. Wait, Rudy was on the

698
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 6: team you were on. No, No, he was way before me.

699
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Speaker 6: But his one brother was his brother. One brother, Mark

700
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 6: was the wrestling coach of my high school. I just

701
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 6: say coach of the year many many times. His brother

702
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: Francis was an undercover detective and ran a gym.

703
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 7: He held.

704
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: Lifting records for his weight class. Right, and his other

705
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Speaker 6: brother was the first four time state champion and wrestling

706
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Speaker 6: in Illinois history.

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Speaker 2: In high school, Dusty Roads the American Dream and they.

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Speaker 6: Make the movie about him, about about the goofy one, right,

709
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Speaker 6: and I love him to death. I know him, you know,

710
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 6: and so but that's kind of the point in the movie. Yeah,

711
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 6: you know, just to you gotta be you just got

712
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Speaker 6: to stick through it, just a day longer, one day

713
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: at a time, a minute at a time, the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: And you know, here we go and here we.

715
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Speaker 2: Are, so the Bears this weekend, and it causes me

716
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: to hearken to the Pete started as analyst for the

717
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Speaker 2: Vikings Radio network in two thousand and seven after Uncle

718
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: Joe Censor was the analyst O two, three, four, five

719
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Speaker 2: and six. So Childress comes in and uncle Joe does

720
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Speaker 2: a year and then he's like, I'm a back out

721
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Speaker 2: and do some other things. So then in rolls the

722
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: analyst Pete Persage, And every time the Bears are on

723
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Speaker 2: the schedule, one of the first things I think of

724
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: is the first game you called at Soldier Field, a

725
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: place you went to a bunch of times with your

726
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: game warn Mike Singletarrier, Wilbur Marshall or Richard Dent. Grew

727
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 2: up a Bears fan, eighty five Bears. You lived in

728
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: the city thirteen years old. Team wins a super Bowl.

729
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: It could be better, right, And now you're with the

730
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: Vikings Radio network after coaching for the Vikings for a

731
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Speaker 2: half decade and playing for the team X amount of years,

732
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: and of course the first game you have at Soldier

733
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Speaker 2: Field is just this high scoring bonanza with Peterson running

734
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Speaker 2: all over the place, Dwight Smith biting on a Devin

735
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Hester double move. At me mad, you were so emotional

736
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: during that game. I'll never forget.

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Speaker 6: And I think back about what he what they did

738
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: with Adrian Peterson and how he played, and then they're like,

739
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: all right, we're just gonna let him return a kick,

740
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: and then he takes it out to what the forties,

741
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, it was unbelievable and long Well

742
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 6: walks off. Yeah, I'm still mad about the Devin. I mean,

743
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 6: what else was Devin has to He's a deep why

744
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: else would he be in there? He's gonna run a

745
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 6: vertical route. He's fast, he can't run curls and digs

746
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Speaker 6: and you know post comebacks this is what he does,

747
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 6: you know, So how dumb can you beat?

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Speaker 4: You know?

749
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: Remember how loud it was?

750
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Speaker 2: And then Devin Hester walking out for the punts and.

751
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 5: What's the bit, oh soldier boy?

752
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: And he didn't like run out to a spot, No,

753
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: he like fout, floated, looked at the crowd it had,

754
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: and then there would be a punt return and of

755
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: course Heath Farwell would have gotten blocked in the back,

756
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Speaker 2: but no call and there goes devn.

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Speaker 6: We talked to Anthony Barr yesterday for alumni bit, you know, Vikings,

758
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 6: and we were talking about the Bears game and stuff,

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00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: and he's he The first thing he brought up was

760
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: how bad the field was, right, and that was it's

761
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: much better now. But remember I remember back in the

762
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: day you go out there and the grass would be

763
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 6: ankle deep and you're coming up and and just pieces

764
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Speaker 6: and that that. But that was that's what clippery was

765
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 6: this year. Yeah, but that's what going to Chicago is, right,

766
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 6: it's a it's a.

767
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Speaker 2: But it's worse now because they're moving to Arlington High.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're gonna get Speaking of that, I remember the

769
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Speaker 6: Pontiac Silverdome. We used to go to Silver Drome, and

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Speaker 6: I remember when they when they finally decided what they

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 6: were gonna do, and they're gonna move it to Ford

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Speaker 6: Field in downtown. So the last time we went to Pontiac,

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Speaker 6: we're in the hotel, right, you jump out, what do

774
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 6: you do? You get on these big tour buses and

775
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 6: then tour buses are surrounded by what police cars and

776
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 6: you're just zipping on the side of the ramps and

777
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 6: you know you're right into the stadium, the police and

778
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 6: pont and I'm sorry it was I'm trying to remember

779
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 6: what town, Troy, the Silverdome was in whatever, Oh, Pontiac, Yeah, Pontiac.

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00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 6: They escorted us, but they didn't turn their lights on,

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00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: so they said, and we said in traffic behind the

782
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Speaker 6: cops the whole way there. Took us like thirty five

783
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 6: forty minutes to get that. I mean, it's just it.

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Speaker 6: I love that kind of stuff because the people in

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00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 6: Pontiac are like.

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Speaker 5: Screw you, guys, you're the Lions. You guys want to

787
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: go downtown.

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Speaker 7: Screw you.

789
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Speaker 6: We're not gonna no more police escorts, no more of this,

790
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 6: no more of that. The stadium's falling apart, the whole thing.

791
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 6: And it was all that for a right to play

792
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 6: Barry Sanders.

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Speaker 5: It's fantastic.

794
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding, And those things are just I love

795
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 6: playing at the Silver Room. We played there one day

796
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Speaker 6: after one day after a Bruce Springsteen concert on a

797
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 6: Saturday night, and it was you couldn't see the rafters

798
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: because it was so much smoke still in that thing.

799
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 6: I did back then, circulate air. Come on, what do

800
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 6: you mean you know you go in the locker room

801
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 6: and it was all like a chain linked this and

802
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 6: just wires that, and it was so it was so spartan.

803
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 6: I mean, the tiles missing, no, you know, hot water thing,

804
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 6: the whole it was.

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: It.

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00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

807
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 6: It was almost like going to Candlestick with how bad

808
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 6: I mean Candlestick was just a dump as a visitor

809
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 6: for sure, locker room, the whole thing. And and uh

810
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 6: about Dallas Texas Stadium, Oh yeah, that was something that

811
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 6: was ridiculous.

812
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 5: It was. It was hot.

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Speaker 6: I remember my rookie year ninety four going on there

814
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Speaker 6: for a preseason game. We flew down the day of

815
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 6: the game. We flew down the day of the game,

816
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 6: went to a hotel, sat around for two hours, and

817
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 6: then went to the stadium.

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Speaker 5: I don't even remember. It was nine hundred degrees. Oh,

819
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 6: It was the first game I ever cramped up. I

821
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 6: didn't see the field for the entire first half. I

822
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 6: got introduced to performance drugs in the locker room as

823
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 6: a professional, right, Like we take things in college, but

824
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: you do it when you went out party, and you

825
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: didn't do it when you were playing, right, because we

826
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 6: got tested and everything. So Scotty Adams, if you remember him,

827
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 6: probably maybe there might be two people listening there, remember him.

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 6: He had a he had a tackle box, a plano rapple,

829
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 6: a fishing box full of pills stuff. He's like, all right,

830
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: take some of these things. And I'm a rookie. I'm like, okay,

831
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Speaker 6: I'll take them. Before the kickoff, I'm I am just

832
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 6: feeling great. The holy problem was I didn't see the

833
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 6: field till the second half.

834
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Speaker 7: H oh.

835
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Speaker 6: So by then it was crash. It was a crash,

836
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 6: and I'm like, all right, roock money. Kiffin's like, okay, rookie,

837
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: get out there. You got you got all of it.

838
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 6: You're covering punts, kickoffs, whatever, And I remember cramping up

839
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: on the on the I never cramped before. And I

840
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: remember getting on the bus on the way back and

841
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 6: just had you know, You're sitting there and all of

842
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 6: a sudden, someone in the back stands up.

843
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: And like yeah, You're like, oh, there's a cramp. And

844
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: I was one of them. It was those are the days, mat.

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00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: When we get the opportunity to down memory lane, we

846
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: go with the analysts like we did this morning. It

847
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Speaker 2: was the Capitol Club, That's what it was called this morning. Yeah,

848
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: with the ped Lever and Pete Man some good stories. Share,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud, see you soon, all right. See it

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Speaker 2: by Pete Versage at Pete Versage via Twitter. Final segment next, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thanks for the good times today. Everybody always a joy

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Speaker 2: coming over to Twin City's Orthopedics Performance Center and copyright.

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Speaker 2: Dan Barrero the host of Bumper to Bumper with Barrero

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Speaker 2: three to six thirty weekdays and on Sunday sermons. We

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Speaker 2: have some big knockers Tomorrow nine to noon, Courtney Cronin

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Speaker 2: with the Bears Focus. Tomorrow Courtney Cronin from ESPN will

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Speaker 2: join Lavelle e Neil the Third will be in studio

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Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock and I believe Chris Finch, head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Minnesota Timberwolves, will be joining tomorrow. Likewise, from

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio for Eric Nordquist, I'm Paul Allen. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much, Brett Blake Moore for the production. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you Kevin O'Connell for joining at eleven o'clock today,

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Speaker 2: chatting out JJ McCarthy. PJ Fleck is next and skipping

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Speaker 2: the steps even if they're difficult, as PJ says, well

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Speaker 2: you just can't do that with JJ McCarthy. As Kevin

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