1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: What's up Nick Man? How you doing? Man? Well, you 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: did a good job coordinating. It's good like it. Well, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: I told you last time I saw him. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: If you ever see me and that is not in play, 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: call the cops. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: There's an impostor. Okay, yes, I'm keeping that in mind. 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: It's like me not seeing you with your final Yeah, 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: something's wrong. Yeah, Dave, good to see you. How are 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: you good to see both of you? 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: I'm glad to see that that whatever, you know, our 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: respective organization didn't decide to trade his back to a 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: former team like the Ravens did with Max Crosby last night. 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: That literally broke as we were leaving the We hadn't 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: even you hadn't stepped outside the building. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: No, you texted me, and that was now. Got a 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: few thoughts on that. I've heard from a couple of people. 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: One that I he's a friend of mine, but I 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: don't really trust him to be completely accurate all the 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: time with stuff like this, and one that I think 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: is pretty well tied in and not given to hyperbole. 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: And I got a cryptic. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: Message today about the Max Crosby deal, and all the 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 4: message said was there's more than meets the eye. 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: So now what does that mean, I mean, other than 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: being a transformer's reference. 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah right, I uh so, I don't know, 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: but it's it is. It is unusual. It's highly unusual. 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: It physicals are voided on a on a fairly regular basis, 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: but it's highly unusual for a deal to be consummated 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: four days prior and it just gets voided at at 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: this point. 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: So we'll see, you know how to look at this 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: issu WAYE when I when I thought about it, it's like, uh, 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: going in for a nie art and then getting a 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: practically proctal electomy. 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: And what that is is what procto electomy? Proctal electromy? 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: Yes, so that that's where they's if you have bowel cancer, 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: what is the procedure that they have to do where 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: they remove your large intestines, your rectum and your anal canal. 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: But you went in for a knee surgery. How how 41 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: the hell would you come up with that? 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what I thought about, because 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I thought about the worst thing that could happen. But 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: also too, being a proctal electomy means it stinks, it smells. 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: If you can get the metaphor. 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: Right, So well, yeah, so it stinks proctal electomy. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: Ya, proct elected be trust me, you never want. 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: To have you know, you hit the coupon card and 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: you certain certain punches on there and then something style 50 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: you don't want to punch. 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: Car for you looking for a discount product elect Trust me, 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: you know you don't want to get to ten. You 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: know you don't know what they're gonna give you. You 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: couldn't get to. 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: Ten because once they remove all this other stuff out 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: of your body. 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: Talking to a call and oscar, Yes we're talking about 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: a producto electomy. 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean ten surgery. Anyways, Yes, you're right, 60 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: it is kind of us. Eric Tacosta, the Gem of 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: the Ravens, is actually speaking on NFL network right now. 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they are trying. 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: To sell and excit, I'm seeing it quot right now. 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: They are trying to sell that they were pursuing Trey 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: Hendrickson with the attempt to play him opposite Max Crosby's 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: what he just said right now moments ago. So there, 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: and I saw some of that this morning that they 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: were saying, well, because we saw the signing this morning 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: of Trey Hendrickson twenty eight million per and the report 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: is no, no, we wanted Max here and we're going to 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: get Trey Hendrickson. 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: But it looks a little fishy. 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: It looks a little bit they had I think of 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: all the NFL teams, they probably had gotten rid of 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: or allowed to leave more players than any other NFL team. 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean they had signed I think one guy, and 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: they had I think it was about eight guys. 78 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: I think it was like maybe even more, maybe like 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: ten eleven. I'm thinking, wow, man, they have purged a 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 4: whole bunch of a whole bunch of salary. I find 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: it hard to believe they would have been able to get, 82 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: you know, get both of them. Maybe they would have, 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. You know what, it's crazy. 84 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: They they need a lot, they need a large shovel 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: for all the poop they're they're shoving right now. Because 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: I failed to believe that they were trying to get 87 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: both guys simultaneously. 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: It was like, let's see, why are people holding if 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: in fact, and I don't think any of us actually 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: believe that to be true, So let's just say it's 91 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: it's not true. Why Why would Eric Acosta feel it 92 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: necessary to come out and say, oh no, we were 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: trying to get both of them. Why why wouldn't he 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: just say, listen, there were some things that came up 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: in the Max Crosby deal we were not comfortable to 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: move forward. Therefore, we had interest in Trey Hendrickson and 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: we continued our pursuit of him. 98 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: They were reneged. That's basically what they did, because now 99 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: they don't want. 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: To be known as an organization and that you can't trust, 101 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: because basically it seem as though they were sending two 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: first round picks to the Raiders, which forced the Raiders 103 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: to look at their roster and adjust their roster accordingly, 104 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: only for the rug to be pulled from underneath him. 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: With this old Max Crosby situation. 106 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: So you see, if it was anybody but the Raiders, 107 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: if it was somebody that was was actually more viable 108 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: immediately in the AFC, Like if the Ravens did that, 109 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: let's say, to the Bills, or did it to the 110 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: even the Broncos or the Chiefs, then I'd say, hmm, 111 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: so maybe they were trying to screw that other team. 112 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: But the Raiders have been so bad and I don't 113 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: think anybody considers the Raiders to be a threat to 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 4: win the AFC next year. 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: No, no, not a threat, but the fact of you were 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: willing to give up two first rounders, one in twenty 117 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: twenty six, one twenty twenty seven. And then also you say, well, 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: let's look at the injury to Crosby opposed to Trey 119 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: hendrickson which guy's injury took place first, and what should. 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Be further along? 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: And it's like, you know what, let's pull the trigger 122 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: on this and just say that it was a failed physical. 123 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you have done that due 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: diligence beforehand? 125 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing. They should have done it 126 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: before they announced it on front if there was something 127 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: other than an injury. Well see, that's. 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: What I think why they're coming out and saying what 129 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: they're saying now some. 130 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Extra bodiy stuff. Oh well, just. 131 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: Asking Okay, I think they want to avoid the perception 132 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: that this was cold feet, Like that's what was coming 133 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: out last night and even to this morning. A lot 134 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: of the perception around the league is that they just 135 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: got cold feet. Remember, this is the first time this 136 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: organization has ever traded a first round pick for a 137 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: player so. 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: You're saying the perception was they got cold feet in 139 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: terms of oh my god, we just sent two number ones. 140 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we just sent two number ones for this player. 141 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: Now, no, you could say the injury stuff factored in, 142 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: but you knew about this. He was coming off with 143 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: an MCL surgery. He was on crutches last week for 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: crying out loud, right, so we all knew that. 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: So that really doesn't make sense. It doesn't make a 146 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of sense. 147 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: So what does make sense to a lot of people 148 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: is you got cold feet because organizationally, you'd never done 149 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: this before. You went ahead and swung for it, and 150 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: then suddenly maybe the ownership came down and said, hey, 151 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: we can get Trey Hendrickson right now and keep our two. 152 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: First, all we got to do is fail as physical. 153 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: Well that's that's really I mean, if that's the case, 154 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: and I don't know that to be true, that is. 155 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Horrible leadership evaluation. 156 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: Somebody had to okay the deal to get done, and 157 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: the deal got done for four days. 158 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean that that that to me, would fit more. 159 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: With what the Raiders have been experiencing, uh than than 160 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: the Ravens. The Ravens have been one of the most 161 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: solid run organizations ever since Ozzy Knew so a teammate 162 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: of mine, became the guy that ran the organization. And 163 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: even though Ozzie's retired, Ozzy still goes in and works 164 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: very closely with Eric Acosta. 165 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: So I don't know, but. 166 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: I I just can't imagine that that had happened like that. 167 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: But that's that would be a massive flub on the 168 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: Ravens standpoint, because the decision that you made essentially impacted 169 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: other teams and what they did in free agency. So 170 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: this is why they're trying to kind of save Grace 171 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: and say, well. 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Here's what we wanted to do all along. Yeah, And 173 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, if that's what you wanted to do all along, 174 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: why don't you just do it? Because once again, you. 175 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: Announced this on Friday, right ahead of free agency deadline, 176 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: only to change her mind what the day of. 177 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: It's like, come on, dog, what do we do? 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: Although again, I've seen plenty of times and I'm sure 179 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: Nick has too in the league where team A and 180 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: their medical staff will look at a player, they'll diagnose 181 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: the various injuries he's had or injury that he's coming 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: off on of, and they will clear him team B 183 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: might look at the very same player and say, you 184 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: know what, I just I don't think so so we 185 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: have to failure on your physical Well, okay. 186 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: Here's what this reminds me of. 187 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: Remember when you know Drew Brees got injured and with 188 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: the charges once. 189 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: At a Dolphins, I think, Nick sables, that's that's a 190 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: good that's a good one. 191 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: They failed him, right, and then he went to the 192 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: Miami Miami, Miami failed him. 193 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he went to the Saints 194 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: and it was all good. Yeah they did. 195 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: Okay, are the doctors not looking at the same MRIs 196 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: and that trays you just have you. 197 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: Have uh and again I don't know that this is 198 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: actually what happened, but you will have orthopedic surgeons. Team 199 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: doctors look at MRIs, look at images of U a 200 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: player's injury and maybe don't come to completely different conclusions. 201 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: But one might say, yeah, I mean I think we're honestly, 202 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: I think that player probably has seven, you know, to 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: eight more years, And and another medical staff might look 204 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: at that and say, I think at best, that's a 205 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: two year, two year thing here, and then after that, 206 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: we're gonna have to keep our fingers crossed. 207 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,239 Speaker 1: See this thing seemed like it goes deeper. 208 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: And let me put my tip four a hat on 209 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: because based on what we're talking about, if the rave 210 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: if the Ravens knew that they wanted to be in 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: the business with Trey Henderson and kind of realized they 212 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: made a mistake, who was to say that you couldn't 213 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: go to your independent doctors and have them to view 214 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: whatever X ray's MRIs from mix Crosby to your benefit. 215 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: So you can say, legitimately, this is a guy who 216 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: failed as physical Well, I. 217 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: Mean they did have some independent doctors, look at it, right, 218 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: and so they had their their doctors, they did the. 219 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: Doctor, they see their doctors. That's right. 220 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: And every team has their own quote unquote process for 221 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: this right when they I mean every team, I mean 222 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: you were you guys played in the league. You'd go 223 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: to a new organization, they do a physical, they. 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Check you out. 225 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: Had to tow and mariahs all the thing to get 226 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: the sense of what you are. Now this is such 227 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: a such a high level. It's not like trades have 228 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: not gone through or acquisitions have not gone through because 229 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: the field. 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: Physical support this happens such a lot. 231 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen this level two first round picks 232 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: a star player like Max Crosby. 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, tinfoil hat. I think a lot of people 234 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: have that on right now. 235 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: And so Eric Deocosta finally coming out and talking, and 236 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: some of his comments are more or less like nobody 237 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: feels as bad about. 238 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: This as I do. Sure, And and. 239 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: You know, I have a responsibility to this organization, to 240 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: the fans to do the right thing. 241 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: For all I'm asking. 242 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: So for all the people that are skeptical about this, 243 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: what are you skeptical? 244 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: Extremely? 245 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not I'm not even trying to be a 246 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: smart ass about this. So what what what do you 247 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: think happened? 248 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: Well, what I think happened is they were aware of 249 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 3: the knee. Because you couldn't not be right, you. 250 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: Did the physical. 251 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: Maybe you got some worst news than you wanted. Like understand, 252 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: he could he's gonna play this year, maybe he's gonna 253 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: play the next two or three years, but he's not 254 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: going to necessarily be a five year player for you. 255 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: Just argument right, He's not going to be into the 256 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: future pot exactly how MRIs can be viewed differently. 257 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 258 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: So I'm on the same page with you, exactly on 259 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: the same page. And so then at that moment, you 260 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: as an organization. 261 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Go, god, you know, it's. 262 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: A lot to give up, okay, and we can go 263 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: get Trey Henderson right now and get a first back. 264 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't take much. 265 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: So why so why Because basically that's what they're saying 266 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: to the media right now. So why are you Why 267 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: are you skeptical? Because I think I think the scenario 268 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 4: you just described is completely plausible. 269 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: What I'm skeptical of is the we were gonna pair 270 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: Max Crosby Trey Hendrick. 271 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't they're selling that. He's I mean, he 272 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: just literally why say that's what I'm saying that because. 273 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: He didn't want Trey Hendrickson to feel like, hey, you 274 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 4: know you were you weren't the girlfriend I wanted to go. 275 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: To prom with. 276 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: Right, girlfriends on ESPN selling the same thing today. 277 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: I can't remember which one, but one of them was 278 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: selling the exactly. 279 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: Oh no, Hey, they were actually trying to pair these 280 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: guys together, is what I've been told. 281 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm caringtop and here's also too, But why is that? 282 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: Why is that a big I don't understand why that's 283 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: a big deal. 284 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: Why why do why do we think that something sinister 285 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: happened simply because the cost of now the GM of 286 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 4: the Ravens is trying to say, no, we wanted both 287 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: of them. 288 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: How does that effect what has happened because it. 289 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: Changed a lot of what other teams wanted to do 290 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: in free agency because think about the Raiders, the Raiders 291 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: and thinking, okay, we got Max Rosby off the books, 292 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: we got two first round picks, so we're gonna draft 293 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza. Are you're going to give Linda Baum this 294 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: massive deal and then now you're looking to fill out 295 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: your roster? 296 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: Because I get all that, but but in other words, 297 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: what benefit to the Raiders other than That's why I said, 298 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: if it were any other team, if we were a 299 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: Buffalo or Denver or Kansas City, it'd be easier for 300 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: me to say, like, okay, some fishy here, because you 301 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: know what you're hurting. Maybe your chief competitor this year 302 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: in the AFC. Raiders aren't aren't going to compete for 303 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: the AFC? 304 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: What what would what would? 305 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: Why would the Ravens go to this extent to try 306 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: to jam up the Raiders? 307 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's the. 308 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: Fact that they made him with right and then trying 309 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: to get out in front of it, because when you 310 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: think about the injuries to both players, it was a 311 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: core injury I believe to Trey Hendrickson, and it happened 312 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: Week six right of last year. When you think about 313 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: what happened with Max Crosby, it happened later in the season. 314 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: So you say, Okay, well, which guy do we feel 315 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: is going to be rady in the short term? But 316 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: like Ryan said, what's one of these guys going to 317 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: be better for us in the long term? 318 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: And so here's the deal. 319 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: Max Crosby every day of the week is a better 320 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 4: player than Trey Hendrickson a great period when they're both healthy. Yes, 321 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: And it's to me, I admire Henderson plays hard. He's 322 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: a really good player, maybe even a great player. Max 323 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: Crosby is a generational guy. 324 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: He's a dog. Yes, So there's no I mean, if they're. 325 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: I guess I don't understand why Eric Acosta would say no, 326 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: we were trying to get both of them, and why 327 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: that would that sentiment that he floated out there, why 328 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: he would think that would benefit the Ravens to have 329 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: that point of view. 330 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Because it sounds better. It sounds better than we got 331 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: cold fees. That's yeah, it sounds all they have to say. 332 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: Basically, what they've said is he failed, he failed the physical. 333 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: But but I want us to do But the idea. 334 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: Is that they failed physical could be because they put 335 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: that news out there purposely. 336 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: What what's your news well about him failing the physical? 337 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: Meaning okay, well, when you look at Max Crosby, they 338 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: could have they should have done their due diligence before 339 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: they even got to this point, but they realized that, hey, listen, 340 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: we still could get this other guy. So in order 341 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: to make it sound great to say that we didn't 342 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: have cold feet and we didn't pull out is to 343 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: say that he failed the physical. 344 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: No, I get that, and and that's listen. 345 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: If I were involved in the NFL, I would think 346 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: that's a that's a bit of a bush league move. 347 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know that I can that. 348 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: I think there's any sort of, you know, real conspiracy 349 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: other than maybe maybe their team doctors looked at him 350 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: and said, and that thing is not that's not healed 351 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: up the way that I thought that would heal up 352 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: sort of thing that's crazy. 353 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: You get two or theipedic. 354 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: Surgeons who went to school for I don't know, eight years, 355 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: that they would have different opinions on the same X ray. 356 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: There, you know, that's exactly how it happens. You know it. 357 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: You know that you played in the league. You know 358 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: that's how it happens. 359 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: And if you have that team, in the case of 360 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: being the Ravens, they wanted to get out of it, 361 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: so they need their guy in the fault. 362 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: Hey, you've got doctors that will look at MRIs of 363 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: aspiring NFL players and say, I think we're looking at 364 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 4: four years, and it will cost that player in terms 365 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: of draft position because the league then we'll say, or 366 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: the teams will say, man, we can't draft that guy 367 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: that high if he's got four years to play. I've 368 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: seen that happen where the guy played eleven years, and 369 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: I've seen it happen where the guy played about four years. 370 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: So but I'm just saying there are differing opinions from 371 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: orthopedic guys. I just wonder based on the text about 372 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: there's more than meets the eye, you know that that 373 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: That just leads me to wonder if if there was 374 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: something other than the quote physical Do you want to 375 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: put your no, I don't think. I don't think. I 376 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 4: don't think I better because you know, it would be 377 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: like into the sort of Stephen King mode. 378 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: I just this is one of the strangest deals ever. 379 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: Uh, because of the magnitude of the das and the 380 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: greatness of the player and the and the amount that 381 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: that player commanded back in return, and then to have 382 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: this thing squelched. Uh, It's It's one of the craziest 383 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: things I've ever seen. 384 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Is what I think the league should do. Because the 385 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: Ravens are trying to do damage control. You need to 386 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: take a draft pick away from it, because if you 387 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: one does it. 388 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: Yes, why not. Nowever, we're just gonna give a slap 389 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: on the wrist forgiven you do nothing, let me do nothing. 390 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: The only consequence, ultimately is teams are going to be 391 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: a little more cautious dealing with the Ravens. 392 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: That's about it, because there. 393 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: Is no repercussions because you can't set a precedent that, hey, 394 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: we can't we can't fail guys on physicals. 395 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: You have to be able to do that. You've got 396 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: part of the stipulation. 397 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: Oh you got to do something to a team to 398 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: make sure that you prevent this behavior from taking place 399 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: anytime in the future. 400 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: Take take a draft pick away, uh, charge the cost 401 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: of some some cash. Right, It's just it's a bad precedent. 402 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: You can't do it. I'm sorry. I say it's something. 403 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: Wait when your kids, when your kids misbehave, right, let's put. 404 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: It in the world that you want to stay. I 405 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: can't wait for this. Your kids misbehave. 406 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: And you tell them if you do this again, I'm 407 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: going to do this. This is a repercussions Hey do 408 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: it again and you go, what, Well, I can't. I 409 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: can't do that because of I would. 410 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: See. Dave's got it, She's got she's got to handle 411 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: on this. 412 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 5: Well. 413 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: It was Sean Payton. Did you did you see Jake Glaser? 414 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: That was funny. Oh my gosh paying for the plane 415 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: for Max Rosby? Did you see this, Dame? Yeah, yeah, 416 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: he said. 417 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: Sean Payton called me so fired up that the Raiders 418 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: traded Max Crosby and even texted Max saying he's offered 419 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: to pay for a private play in one way flight 420 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: to Baltimore. 421 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: Happy to see him. Out of the division. 422 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: Was Jay Glaizer out of pocket for doing that? Yeah, 423 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: it's a private conversation. 424 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, me, it is. It is, and also have done that. 425 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: Now Max is back in division, and I don't I 426 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: don't think. 427 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 4: I don't think Jay Glazier puts that out there unless 428 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: it's been sanctioned by Sean. 429 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's But now I feel like Max 430 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: is gonna play. 431 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: I will Sean Payton loves Max Crosby and I can see. 432 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 4: I mean he is, you know he is. So what 433 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 4: makes him such a great player? Uh, he's got outstanding ability. 434 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: But the dude's motor I said about ninety eight every 435 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: single snap. 436 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: So you know what this is effectively done to mix? 437 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: Crosby fired him up. And the unfortunate thing for us 438 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: is football fans. The Raiders don't play Baltimore until twenty 439 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven. 440 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: I think he'll still be dealt. Do you still think? 441 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: But for two firsts, I don't know about that. 442 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 443 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: I don't know how you I don't know how you 444 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 4: bring him back. That's entered the raid of the locker 445 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: room with the brand new coaching staff. He was in 446 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: the facility this morning. I think that he's rehabbing right 447 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 4: right in the day. 448 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: You've had an upset with your wife before, right. Yeah, yeah, 449 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: then you guys got over it right rehab exactly. So yes, 450 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: you get to what Amy whitehouse on. So that's what 451 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: you do. 452 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: There's more than meets the eyes. 453 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna I'm gonna puzzle on that for a 454 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: minute because I like the conspiratorial stuff. 455 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: You know that, I know. Can I toss this out? 456 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but based on what you're saying, yeah, 457 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: it seems though this has nothing to do with or 458 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: the peething. It seemed like it has to do with 459 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: maybe something else body related ingested. 460 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Dave. Maybe maybe not. Well, we have even repped. Feel 461 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: free to ask him that I'm ask five. 462 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: There was a Kamma Spirit Health text like also the 463 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: Broncos have many a couple of sightings. Lucas Crowle and 464 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: mat Henksen are back, so I'll have just just to 465 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: break that down. Coming up next, we had out to 466 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: the Kaikomas Spirit Health Highline and bring on our INNFL 467 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: network Insider Ian Rapaport powered by Chevron. Chevron the Human 468 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: Energy Company committed to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, 469 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: ever cleaner energy. 470 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Ian Good afternoon, sir, how are you. 471 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 5: What's going on? How are you? Is there something you 472 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: wanted to discuss? 473 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah? Nothing. That's that's the thing about the NFL. 474 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: Nothing ever happens right after the super Bowl ends until 475 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: the first pre season game. 476 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Damn, I wish that would change. 477 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: No, I I just to give you an idea. Yeah, 478 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 5: what's going on here? So we've been on on air 479 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 5: for you know, we've been starting at eight in the morning, 480 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 5: finishing at eight at night for the last several days. 481 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: And I finished last night. We'll finished the Insiders at eight. 482 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: It's eight oh two, and I see my phone buzz 483 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: and it says that the Raiders say the Ravens have 484 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: called off the Max Crosby trade. And it was full 485 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: on pandemonium. 486 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 4: I'll bet I bet we into the show here at 487 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: six o'clock. By the time I got in the car, 488 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: it was like, what what is actually going on? So 489 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 4: as as best you know, I mean, you're you're obviously 490 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: locked in on everything NFL. Is this just as simple 491 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: in your mind as the Ravens doctors failed Max Crosby 492 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: on a physical. 493 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 5: So I don't believe that the term failed on a 494 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: physical is an accurate one. It's really not it's not you, 495 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: it's everybody says this. It's not really what happened failing 496 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 5: a physical. It's like the player is not able to play. 497 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 5: This is the Ravens traded two first rounders and Crowsley 498 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 5: was making thirty plus million dollars a year. It was 499 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 5: based on what they found in the knee. You know, 500 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: he's had a fullment uniscus repair, which I reported during 501 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 5: the Scherbouli knew that, but two months out they what 502 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: they found in the knee they did not think was 503 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 5: worth the two first round picks. There's really a risk 504 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 5: judgment and a value judgment. And they tried to go 505 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 5: back to the Raiders to renegotiate the deal, saying that 506 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: they did not feel comfortable based on what they found 507 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: him the knee that doing the trade for that price, 508 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: and the Raiders said that's the price and the trade 509 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: is off. And so you know that's my understanding, Like 510 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: is he going to play this year like they believe 511 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 5: he is. Should be good, But it's really just you know, 512 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 5: questions about the long term sort of longevity of Max 513 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: Crosby's knee moving forward. 514 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: Well, I shouldn't they have figured all of this out? Before. 515 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 2: I guess it was announced on Friday instead of having 516 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: this chaos that's taken place. 517 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 5: Now, you're not allowed to you're not allowed You can 518 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 5: get scans, but you can't give a player of physical 519 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: and you know basically the way it works. And look, 520 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 5: you know again, like I reported during the Super Bowl 521 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: that it was a miniscus repair, not a miniscus trimp. 522 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: So everyone knew there was an issue. But you know, 523 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 5: it was two teams competing. It was the Cowboys and 524 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: the Ravens competing in the match Acrossby. And I think 525 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 5: it's pretty clear, you know, I think it's it's pretty 526 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: clear that the Ravens were like, you know what, We're 527 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: just gonna take a risk and do the trade and 528 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 5: figure it out later because we don't want to miss 529 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: you know, we don't want to miss out on getting 530 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: match Acrossby. And so they took the risk and in 531 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 5: the end it did not pay off and the trade 532 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 5: ended up being scuttled. 533 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: So what's going to be the lesson for this whole thing? 534 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: Are team is going to be a little more reticent 535 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: to work with the Ravens under these circumstances. 536 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: Nah, I don't think that's reality. 537 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean. 538 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: And also I would also say, like I don't know what, 539 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: I don't know what the Ravens did wrong. Like, first 540 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: of all, Eric Tacosta has the responsibility to his organization 541 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 5: to do what's right for them, So like, yes, it 542 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 5: is an unpopular decision, but his job is to do 543 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 5: its best for the Ravens. I would question why he 544 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: went after Crosby knowing that the knee was not healed yet, 545 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: but I wouldn't question him doing right, you know, for 546 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: his organization, because that is that is his job. We 547 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: were talking, you know, I would say this, like you 548 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 5: talk about like, you know, agents not wanting to do 549 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: business with them, like they literally signed one of the 550 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 5: biggest free agents this morning in tre Hendrickson, And so 551 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that's reality. 552 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: You know. 553 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: It's like when an agent says like I'm never sending 554 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 5: the player to that team and then it's like, hey, 555 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: we have the most money for you, and you're like 556 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 5: and we're back. 557 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, So what what I've got two questions? 558 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: What what purpose would it serve Eric DaCosta uh to 559 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: say that he was trying to signed both and he 560 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: was trying to make the deal for Max, and that 561 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 4: he was also trying to sign Hendrickson from the Bengals. 562 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: I mean, realistically, from a number standpoint, I just don't understand. 563 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Why would he say that because. 564 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: He wanted Trey to feel like, you're not playing second 565 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 4: fiddle here. 566 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: We were going after you no matter what. 567 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 6: No, I think he's saying it because it's true, Like 568 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: Trey's from what I am told, Hendrickson learned early in 569 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 6: the process that they were going after him and Max. 570 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 6: Now today, obviously Hendrickson knew that it wasn't going to 571 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 6: be him, and they you know, were able to raise 572 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: their offer because they didn't have. 573 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 5: Crosby's thirty million on the books. But Trey Hendrickson was 574 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 5: told that they were trying to sign both early on, 575 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 5: which I think would be like Monday probably is when 576 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 5: she learned this. Just you know, his market took a 577 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: little time to develop, and I think once the Ravens 578 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 5: lost Crosby, they obviously had a lot more money and 579 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 5: turned that, you know, turned it into into Hendrickson. But 580 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 5: they were trying to sign both. 581 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: We were talking before you came on the air about 582 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: without we you know, it's hard to believe, isn't it, 583 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: I know. I mean, we've we've got to feel the airwaves. 584 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: I mean before you get on and a little bit. 585 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: After you get on. 586 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: But if you, if you, if you talk about when 587 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 4: when the Saints made the deal. When Drew was a 588 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: free agent, he first went to Miami. Miami failed him 589 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: on a physical. He then went to the Saints. The 590 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: Saints looked at the very same shoulder, did not fail 591 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: him on a physical. 592 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: And we know how that worked out. 593 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: Do you do you think this is similar in terms 594 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: of how the teams actually may have differing opinions looking 595 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: at the same injured body part. 596 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 5: Okay, see that that is a very very good example, right, 597 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 5: because the Dolphins were very comfortable in what they believed. 598 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I think at that point Drew couldn't really 599 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: rift his arm over his shoulder, I remember correctly, And 600 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 5: say Nick Saban, who was the coach at the time, 601 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 5: I was always blamed the Dolphins medical staff for this. 602 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: But you know, this is their job to take the 603 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 5: evidence that they have and use to make the best 604 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 5: you know, off of the best opinion. It's called a 605 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: medical opinion, off of the best opinion. Saints took a 606 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 5: chance and Drew Brees is a Hall of Famer and 607 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 5: the Dolphins didn't and they were left with Dante Culpepper 608 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 5: and it's been a challenge, you know, ever since. 609 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 4: So do you think a team jumps in and makes 610 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: an offer now for Max Crosby before the year starts? 611 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: So I know teams were calling the Raiders when this 612 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: broke down last night. The problem is everybody wants a discount. 613 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 5: You know, it's like all right, like cool, so you're 614 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 5: not doing this pick, You're not doing two picks. You know, 615 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: let's just uh, let's just have about how about one 616 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 5: first rounder? And it's like that. I don't think that 617 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 5: really works like that. I think they have a value 618 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 5: on one of the best pastors to the NFL and 619 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: they're sticking to that. And to me, it feels like 620 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: Crosby is now back to the Raiders. That is what 621 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 5: it feels like to me, Like he was back in 622 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: the building this morning. He is all ins, He's ready 623 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: to go h And that's kind of and I think 624 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: that's okay, I really do. 625 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, we know that at the collective bargain agreement 626 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: will be negotiated by twenty thirty. 627 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Do you think this particular. 628 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: Situation will somehow come up and be presented by the 629 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: NFLPA as far as getting these types of X rays 630 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: done so you can avoid this type of chaos. 631 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: You know, I don't know that you need to wait 632 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 5: until the CBA. You could make a change next year, 633 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 5: like and you know you can do it right, you 634 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 5: can say, I mean, first of all, there's not a 635 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: lot of players who are. 636 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 7: Traded while having medical concerns. But theoretically, you know, if 637 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 7: two teams are competing for the same player, like, would 638 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 7: you pause a trade if negotiations are going quickly and 639 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 7: say like all right, like let's hit pause, Let's find 640 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 7: the player to two different place to do a physical 641 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 7: Like I mean, I wonder if teams, you know, maybe 642 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 7: there's a rules change, maybe somebody. 643 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: Would allow it. I just don't know how feasible it 644 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: is when everything moves so fast in this world, you 645 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: know what I mean? 646 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Totally. 647 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: The last one I have for you just want to 648 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: ask you about the Broncos, who have ultimately signed all 649 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: their own players back for the most part, except for 650 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: John Franklin Myers and PJ. Locke, everybody else's is back 651 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: with the team. We're a little surprised by that. What 652 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: was your reaction to seeing that so far? 653 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 5: No, this is kind of to me, this is kind 654 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 5: of where they should be. You know, like, look, I 655 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 5: thought they were going to make some signings too. I thought, 656 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 5: you know, chig a Conquo was with someone they might sign. 657 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: I mean there's you know, I sort of thought they 658 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: might be in it a little more. But like, this 659 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: is where you want to get to as a team, 660 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 5: where you're like, we have some good, highly valued players. 661 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 5: They're going to leave. We're going to get the compix 662 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 5: like they'll probably get like a set or something COMPIIC 663 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 5: for John Franklin Myers, and you resign your own guys. 664 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 5: I mean the Broncos basically had their free agency in like. 665 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: December. 666 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 5: When when did they sign all those all their own guys? 667 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? December, Yeah, December. 668 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: So uh yeah, I mean that sort of to me 669 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: was was was their free agency. 670 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: You you're getting a little bit of info there. Ian 671 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: got to uh break something down. 672 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: It's nothing that it's nothing that important. 673 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: Okay, pause there for a moment. It's like all right, well, 674 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: hey we got you got you the phone right now? 675 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: All right? 676 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: Yeahh no, that's I mean that that's what. 677 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: Uh, we get those two, honey, pick up the milk. 678 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: We get them. We get them all the time. They 679 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: pick up the kids from school. Yeah, don't forget that one. 680 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one. All right. Ian, Uh, 681 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: you're the best. We appreciate We'll check you with you 682 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: next week. 683 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 5: Man, okay, thanks. 684 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Man must spend something. 685 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 4: He's getting something something right now. 686 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: Because he was like, nowhere to be found, butterfly, all right, 687 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: we'll come back and react to all that. He made 688 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: a point. 689 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: I didn't want to disagree with him because he said, 690 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 4: it's really not failing physical that's that's really exactly what 691 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: it is. That's the terminology the NFL teams use. I've 692 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: seen them use that before and again. I mean, I 693 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: think a lot of people would think, hey, listen, you 694 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: get a group of doctors, NFL doctors. One group represents 695 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: the Cowboys, one group represents the Bears, and they look 696 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: at the same imaging of a particular player. Most of 697 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: them would come to the same conclusion based on. 698 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: What they saw. 699 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: And just based on what I've seen and experienced in 700 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 4: the NFL, that is not true necessarily. 701 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: It just seems once again like the Ravens is just 702 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: trying to say face, that's exactly want to make sure 703 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: that they remain a reputable organization. 704 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Like you said, well, you think about. 705 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: You know, what would you do if they if you 706 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: were them and you said, hey, we want Max. Okay, 707 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: here's what it's going to cost, right, you want you know, 708 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: I'm sort of glossing through all this stuff that goes 709 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: into it. And then they come to the determination that boom, 710 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: we're gonna make this deal. They haven't done they haven't 711 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: done the physical and as Ian said, you can't do 712 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: it until until after you have a deal in place. 713 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: So they bring they bring Max Crosby back again, I 714 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 4: don't know any of this is true, and they look 715 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 4: at his knee and one of the orthopedics that has 716 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 4: been with the Ravens for a number of years says, listen, 717 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: I've got some real concern based on what I see 718 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: in terms of the longevity of Max Crosby with that injury. 719 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, as simple as getting on the phone or 720 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: doing a zoom call with I guess the Raatest doctors 721 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: or whoever did the surgery and confer with that doctor. 722 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: Here's what we're looking at. What are we saying that, 723 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: What do you different? 724 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: What would you expect to have Max Crosby's doctors say, well, apparently, 725 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: if you did the surgery, you're going to say, you 726 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 4: know what, that's one hundred percent success. 727 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: So you let the two doctors actually talk with both 728 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: teams and their representatives being on the same call, so 729 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 2: everyone knows exactly what we're talking. 730 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm playing along. Now, let's just say that happened. 731 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: And Max Trobsy's doctors said, listen, I feel real good 732 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: about the repair. Here's what I did. Boom boom, boom, 733 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 4: boom boom, And the Raider and the Ravens doctors said, 734 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 4: we think there's some issues, not in terms of the repair, 735 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: just in terms of the viability and the longevity of 736 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: this injury to this player at his age. 737 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: But Dan, if you are the Raiders doctor, you tell 738 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens doctor go f off. 739 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: Okay, But if you're the Ravens at that point you're 740 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: running the Ravens, what's your next step? 741 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna go ahead and go ahead with the deal. 742 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: No, I mean, at that point, if your doctors through 743 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: the conversation with everyone's sitting in the room and we're 744 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: putting everything on the table. Now we say, okay, well 745 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: this is not a good deal for us, so this 746 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: is where we're going to pull out. 747 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: And that's I think. 748 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: I think most people feel maybe that's the closest to 749 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: what really happened. I don't know anything else. There's speculation 750 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: there may be something else, but I think what we 751 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 4: just sort of outlined is the closest that most reasonable 752 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: people feel NFL people feel like happened. 753 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: And then there's the more than meets the eye stuff. 754 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 4: Then there's the text that I got about there's more 755 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: than meets the eye. 756 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when you pull back the labous. 757 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: My brain is firing and all to that point. 758 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be some more information because I 759 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 2: don't know, but I also it's completely over. 760 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: I also disagree with Ian. 761 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 4: I don't think Max Crosby's necessarily back with the Raiders 762 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 4: because he was in their rehabbing that means he's back. 763 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. 764 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: I would bet I would guess that Max Crosby will 765 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: play somewhere else this fall. 766 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: But this is whether the Raiders are going to fill 767 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 2: really quickly that they were. They got a short end 768 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: the stick because they went from two first rounds and 769 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: now maybe only one, or maybe a one and. 770 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: A third or maybe none exactly. Maybe it won't be 771 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 4: it'll be another team that deals with the Ravens. 772 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: We'll see how desperate they get. 773 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: So far this morning, the reporting is that they're gonna 774 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: stick with their two firsts as their ask for Max 775 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: Crosby Congratulations to CEESU women last night winning the Mountain 776 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: West Tournament fifty six forty two in over air Force. 777 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: CSU men are gonna take on Fresno State tonight. 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