1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: What's that. 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: There's too many of you crowds, brother, there's. 3 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: Far too many. 4 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Love you dad. 5 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: I think anyone who puckers up their lips and presses 6 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: it against their boss's buttocks and then smooches isn't ask us. 7 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: I seem to be in at everything except my work. 8 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: I'm good at my work. I confine myself to that. 9 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: All I want out of life is thirty share in 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: a twenty rating. 11 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: The man's enlarged my mind. 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 5: Uh. 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 6: He's a poet bowyer and in the classic sense, I'm 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 6: a little man. 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 7: I'm a little man. 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: He's a great man. 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 6: Think of it as colors. There's black and there's white, 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 6: and in between is mostly gray. 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 8: That's us now. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 6: Gray is a tough color because it's not as simple 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 6: as black and white, and for the media certainly not 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 6: as interesting. 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 7: But that's who we are. 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: Busies, your indignities in Inglewood Leader Fan Fan Radio Network, 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Did you see the game? And k f a n 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: dot com One minute forty two seconds past the hour 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: of three o'clock central daylight time, Welcome back Friday edition 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: Bumper to Bumper program. Very different show than usual because 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: we've got Thursday night football to discuss, and we are 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: monitoring the koc presser, which is supposed to begin very shortly. 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: I'll get a signal from Blake Moore in for Guardzy today, 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: who's on his way to Iowa City as soon as 33 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: it begins. Now, I'll caution you sometimes the sound the 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: audio quality is not great because I think this is 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: one of those zoom pressers. Correct it is, So we'll 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: play it by ear. If it sounds good and it's 37 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: looked like there's some juicy stuff going, we'll let it 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: play a little bit. If audio becomes frustrating for everyone, 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: we'll we'll bow out. 40 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 8: Now, KOs is famously fashionably late. Is that your So 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 8: we'll see what happens. I do see a chair now, 42 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 8: So that's a start. Yeah, so that's halfway there. That's 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 8: a start. Well, here's the other thing I've always wondered. 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,559 Speaker 8: We can ask Ben Gesling about this at four point thirty? 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 8: Is it harder for the jackals to jackal when they're 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 8: also tired? 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Right? A lot of them either took red eyes back 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: last night if those even exist any longer, or I'm 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: sure took a crack of dawn flight this morning after 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: the late game. Do you lose your your your ability 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: to jackle just a little bit. Or is it universal 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: that when you have a team in disarray to the 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: degree that the Minnesota Vikings are, that you don't lose 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: that no matter whether you're working on twelve hours sleep 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: or twelve minutes sleep. We'll have to see plenty of vikings. 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: Talking points will be part of the discussion today. Guardsy 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: was kind enough to put those together before he had 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: to bow out for Iowa City. Also took you off 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: the hook like more. You didn't have to mess with it. 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: You're very pleaded because you've done talking points a couple times, 61 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: haven't you. 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 9: I have. 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: It's a lot easier when when Guardsy comes and puts 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: it together. 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 9: Well. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: In any case, we got those going for us. I 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: mentioned Guestling at four thirty Lavelle at five thirty. No 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: picks because we did them yesterday and the head coach 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: is speaking, let's listen. 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 9: Game Other than you know upon you know, getting a 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 9: chance to view the film and our coaches, you know, 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 9: being you know, really being here since we arrived back here, 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 9: really attacking looking at it from a lens of things 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 9: that we can improve. Many things on the film are 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 9: correctable and and the the easy seeking comfort answer of 76 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 9: short week or guys battling different injury adversities you know, 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 9: are not going to be part of that discussion, either 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 9: here today or or you know internally here, it's about 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 9: using the time we will have on the practice field 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 9: next week time as a staff today and this weekend 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 9: to uh, you know, create a plan moving forward that 82 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 9: will allow us to match the intent of scheme and 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 9: technique and fundamentals accordingly to give our players a chance 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 9: to have success. And we're going to get to work 85 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 9: immediately on that. And and when we get an opportunity 86 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 9: to get on the grass next week next week with 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 9: our players, that's going to be the plan of attack. 88 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 9: So obviously, you know, a tough watch in all three phases, 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 9: but some some as in many cases, when you have 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 9: a result in the performance like that, you know you 91 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 9: can see places where we clearly can be immediately better 92 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 9: and we need to be And it. 93 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 7: Starts with us as a coaching staff, and that starts. 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 9: With me, and then I know our players know that 95 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 9: the confidence level that I have in the group and 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 9: our group as a whole to to press onward, push forward, 97 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 9: and you know, go put our best foot forward to 98 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 9: play a divisional game on the road against a really 99 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 9: good team, and you know, we want to know in 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 9: the division right now, and we need to try to 101 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 9: attack these division games with the importance that they always are. 102 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 9: But knowing where we're at in the season, obviously critical 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 9: at this juncture. Don't really have a lot of injury 104 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 9: updates at this time. We did get in back to 105 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 9: the facility close to you know, about five am, and 106 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 9: our players and treatments have been ongoing. I'll be able 107 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 9: to circle back on a lot of those things next week. 108 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 9: But I do feel you know, I do feel positive 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 9: about But where both Brown O'Neil and Christian dare saw 110 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 9: you know are today and and and and hopefully in 111 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 9: regards to their work week next week and leading into 112 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 9: being available, feel positive at this time and and hope 113 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 9: to update you more next week on that. And the 114 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 9: same can be said, uh for JJ McCarthy at the 115 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 9: quarterback position. You know, he uh he will get. 116 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 7: Some work in. 117 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 9: I got some work today and and we'll hopefully get 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 9: some work throughout the early part of the week which 119 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 9: will lead him into a full week of preparation and 120 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 9: and feel positive about where he's at as well. 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 7: Turn it over to you. 122 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: Hey, Kevin, I just wanted to ask about just with 123 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: the run game. I think you guys have lost Tarisaw 124 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: and Oliver before or you'd even played a tenth snap 125 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 4: on offense. Just how much did that affect how you 126 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: called the game? And then with the opportunities the run 127 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: game did get, how did you evaluate those? 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, you know, I think jo Jo might 129 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 9: have been on the eighth snap, and then CD might 130 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 9: have been, you know, on the ninth snap, so you're 131 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 9: right on that and. 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 7: Looking at it. 133 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 9: I think over the course of the first you know, 134 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 9: ten there weren't many, obviously, but ten run rushing attempts 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 9: we had in a variety of different reasons, including a 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 9: holding call. You know, I think we ended up right 137 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 9: around you know, eight to ten yards of total production 138 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 9: out of that. So when you're in a game where 139 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 9: you're down some linemen, that make those known passing downs 140 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 9: a little bit more difficult. 141 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 7: The lack of ability to get some of. 142 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 9: Those plays going not of you know, we were we 143 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 9: found ourselves in second and you know, behind the chains 144 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 9: too many times in the game, and we were able 145 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 9: to overcome h minimally with some some you know, playmaking 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 9: by either Justin or you know, some of our other 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 9: skilled players in the past game. But it's just not 148 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 9: the formula for success when you are trying to mitigate 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 9: some other areas that are concerning based upon the matchups 150 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 9: and and and some of the things you're trying to 151 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 9: work through as a group all well knowing you know, 152 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 9: getting guys like Justin and Jordan and TJ and going 153 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 9: a little bit can can you know, do light Year 154 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 9: do wonders for your for your offensive rhythm when you 155 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 9: can you know, maybe get things opened up a little 156 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 9: bit via the past. But we just were never really 157 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 9: able to put it all together and consistently look like 158 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 9: the offense we want to look like. And there's a 159 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 9: lot of reasons for that, and we've identified some of 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 9: those on the tape. But I do think the fun 161 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 9: mentals and technique of of guys uh you know, in 162 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 9: the run game making sure we you know, both schematically 163 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 9: have the best angles we can have and and the 164 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 9: the identity of plays matching with then the technique and 165 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 9: fundamentals of of being able to go cover guys up 166 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 9: and get things started for our runners. But you know, 167 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 9: not having CJ and then losing Josh early. He's such 168 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 9: a critical part of our of our run game there 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 9: at that why true why position, And obviously you know, 170 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 9: when Christian Darsol is in the game, he's always been 171 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 9: a major, major, major focal point for us to run behind. 172 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 7: So you know, we were we were missing some pieces. 173 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 9: But at the same time, the film, you know, does 174 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 9: clearly show that we can be better and we need 175 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 9: to be better. 176 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 10: Hey, coach, I was just wondering there were three or 177 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 10: four veteran players in the locker room last night that 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 10: reiterated what you said about nos uses, but also kind 179 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 10: of pointing to the positive of the closeness of the 180 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 10: team in this situation and really belief in one another 181 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 10: rather than anyone pointing fingers. I don't want to ask 182 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 10: an obvious question, but just wondering if, from your perspective, 183 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 10: if you can comment kind of on on that aspect 184 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 10: of it and how impactful that is to have the 185 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 10: closeness when you guys are trying to figure things out here. 186 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I love our guys, I love the makeup of 187 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 9: our guys. We clearly didn't have the performance or the result, 188 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 9: and that's all of us last night, and everybody to 189 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 9: a man in that locker room and our coaching staff, 190 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 9: we have to acknowledge that we can't run from it. 191 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 9: And at the same time, I think all of the 192 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 9: things that those players have built in their locker room 193 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 9: and the principles that we've we've built a lot of 194 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 9: our team building in. And the foundation of this building 195 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 9: on is for these moments where we've got to, you know, 196 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 9: be even more connected, even more of a group that 197 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 9: can work through this together. 198 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 7: And and I and I. 199 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 9: Know that that's the type of leadership we have, that's 200 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 9: the type of team that that our guys have have formed, and. 201 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 7: We're gonna need to lean in on that. 202 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 9: And and I don't think you can just sit back 203 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 9: and say it's because of this, this, and this and 204 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 9: and and use anything other than the facts of the 205 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 9: season is long. There's certain aspects of the schedule that 206 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 9: can be more challenging than others. 207 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 7: But for the totality of the. 208 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 9: Season and where we're at right now, we need to 209 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 9: improve in all three phases of our team. 210 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 7: We've got the players to do it. 211 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 9: We should continue to see, you know, the original intent 212 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 9: of of hopefully this team from a from a depth standpoint, 213 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 9: and and and what we thought, uh, the the twenty 214 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 9: two guys on the field and off and defense would 215 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 9: look like we're going to work our way continuously back 216 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 9: towards that. But at the same time, what are we 217 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 9: doing on the practice field. 218 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 7: What are we doing in the meeting rooms? 219 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 9: What are we doing to ensure that, you know, every 220 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 9: stone is being uncovered and and and we're making sure 221 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 9: that we're on top of every detail, every fundamental technique scheme. 222 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 7: What is the identity of our team? 223 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 9: And how we continue to press forward to finding that 224 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 9: and then seeing that And that is something with some 225 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 9: of the things that do come up throughout the season, 226 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 9: and it just so happens we've we've navigated a lot 227 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 9: of those things early on in our season, from you know, 228 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 9: players being out to start the season, to losing players 229 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 9: in game, to losing players for you know, uh, you 230 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 9: know consecutive weeks, uh for for us as a team, 231 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 9: that can be something that is ongoing, but there is 232 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 9: only so much time. 233 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 7: There's uh got. 234 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 9: To be an urgency to find solutions, and there's got 235 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 9: to be urgency to then matt those solutions with the 236 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 9: work that we put in and our preparation and then 237 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 9: make those practice field solutions and plans of attack become 238 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 9: a reality on game day. And then it's about that 239 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 9: word of consistency, and consistency can't just be tied to 240 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 9: whether Isaiah Rodgers interception early on in the game for 241 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 9: a touchdown gets overturned or not. We can't let those 242 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 9: plays go from seven points for us on a huge start, 243 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 9: fast strike first kind of mentality that you need in 244 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 9: those Thursday games where it can be that, okay, it's 245 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 9: not now. 246 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 7: As a team, we need to respond. 247 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 9: We need to find a way to get a stop 248 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 9: on defense and then offensively sustain some sort of rhythm 249 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 9: to allow complimentary nature of football to take place. 250 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 7: And we did not do that. And I know our guys. 251 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 9: Will commit, and they will understand that there's a ton 252 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 9: of football left in front of us. And although ten 253 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 9: gamesas gives us an opportunity to to dig ourselves out 254 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 9: of this, you know, temporary hole we're in, it's going 255 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 9: to be only done by work and rolling up our 256 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 9: sleeves and going to work on this. 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: Kevin with the run defense specifically, and just wondering how 258 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: much you see so far through seven games that's maybe 259 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: quickly fixable, and how much of it might need more 260 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: of a deeper dive. 261 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 9: I guess yeah, I think, uh, you know, coming out 262 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 9: of the bigger bye week a couple of weeks ago. 263 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 7: You know, where we took that deep dive. 264 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 9: You know, there was there was definitely an emphasis by 265 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 9: Flowing his staff of really taken a look at, you. 266 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 7: Know, what we had been and what we wanted to be. 267 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 9: And there was a lot of positives that showed up 268 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 9: in the Philadelphia game that you know, in the in 269 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 9: the aspect of stopping the run, we were we were 270 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 9: clearly able to do that. And then you look at 271 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 9: when you're doing that, is it, uh is it you know, 272 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 9: calls by flow? Is it our group of eleven, you know, 273 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 9: playing totally connected and everybody doing their job. And I 274 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 9: think what we saw is it's a combination of both. 275 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 9: And it's a mixture of scheme but understanding that fundamentals 276 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 9: and technique and players, you know, overcoming whatever the offensive 277 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 9: scheme is that's trying to take advantage of either how 278 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 9: we lined up or the. 279 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 7: Call that we're in. 280 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 9: We just got to get the ability to sync that 281 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 9: all together a little bit more consistently. I do think 282 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 9: there's been some bright spots, like a Jalen Redman continuously 283 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 9: showing up on the tape. And I think Jonathan Garnard's 284 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 9: doing a lot of really good things on the edge. 285 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 9: You know, a lot of those runs are going away 286 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 9: from him, and he's trying like crazy to chase some 287 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 9: of those things down. But what are we doing as 288 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 9: far as setting edges, what are we doing as far 289 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 9: as defeating blocks, playing the cutback and then continuously trying 290 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 9: to chase improvement from a tackling standpoint to be able 291 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 9: to get people when we do arrive at the football. 292 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 9: We do arrive with numbers at the football, can we 293 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 9: get that player on the ground for the for the 294 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 9: most minimal game we can possibly do To then allow 295 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 9: our defense to set themselves up in D and D 296 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 9: s where they can be aggressive and past likely situations 297 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 9: to try to maybe you know, cause some chaos or cause. 298 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 7: Some issues for the offense. 299 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 9: And then like you saw in the Isaiah Rodgers play 300 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 9: that didn't end up being an interception upon review as 301 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 9: they determined, but that was caused by you know, an 302 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 9: early down stop in the run game that forced the 303 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 9: negative And then we force people to play on less 304 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 9: comfortable terms, and that's when our defense has been at 305 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 9: their best. But we'll have time here to kind of 306 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 9: continue along that deep dive and really attach a lot 307 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 9: of the principles of playing good football. You know that 308 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 9: all three of our phases of our team need to do. 309 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 9: But defensively, a lot of confidence in the group. We 310 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 9: have a lot of confidence that we can and you know, 311 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 9: as a coaching staff, you know, I think Flowing his 312 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 9: staff do a great job continuously trying to seek and 313 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 9: search for the best possible solutions and then presenting those 314 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 9: to the players and then matching those things up with 315 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 9: the techniques and fundamentals. And we're going to get an 316 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 9: opportunity to do that with you know, a normal practice 317 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 9: week and then some for some time on task to 318 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 9: make things right. 319 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 11: Kevin, with with Christian from what you're being told you, 320 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 11: do you anticipate needing this need to be a maintenance 321 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 11: situation for an extended period of time, In other words, 322 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 11: where a heavy workload in one game could affect his 323 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 11: availability in the next. 324 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 7: Do you view these. 325 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 11: Situations as unique and potentially behind you or where do 326 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 11: you kind of see this going From what you're being told. 327 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know the information I have, especially from 328 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 9: a standpoint of some of the unique factors of what 329 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 9: our early season slate kind of looked like. Kevin, I 330 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 9: think that was you, Kevin, right, Yeah, I see a 331 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 9: lot of faces there, Yes, it was. But yeah, Kevin, 332 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 9: I think it's something that now we should be in 333 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 9: a pretty consistent Sunday to Sunday type approach with with 334 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 9: with some limited factors there for for you know, the 335 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 9: foreseeable future. I think the next eight weeks, I believe 336 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 9: in some capacity, and until right around the holidays. But yeah, 337 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 9: I think it's something where hopefully we can get back 338 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 9: into a consistent rhythm of what Christian's work week looks like, 339 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 9: a rhythm of what his recovery looks like coming off 340 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 9: of a Sunday game, and then try to consistently get 341 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 9: him turned over because he's you know, it's it's no 342 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 9: secret how critical you know, he's been to our success, 343 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 9: how critical he's been to our consistency. And I would go, 344 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 9: you know, along the same route with what Brian O'Neil 345 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 9: has meant to our offense, as well as those two 346 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 9: pillars on the outside that allow you know, so much 347 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 9: to go for our offense, and you know, I would 348 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 9: I would sign up for having those guys out there 349 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 9: every single play for the rest of the season. But 350 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 9: at the same time, we've got to find ways to 351 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 9: continue to build in a way with our depth, with 352 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 9: our scheme, with our management of some of those unique 353 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 9: circumstances where those guys might not be in the game, 354 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 9: we still have to find production and move the football. 355 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 7: So, like I said, I feel good. 356 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 9: About where those guys will be at coming out of 357 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 9: this you know weekend and then the ability to get 358 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 9: into a normal practice week. But but yeah, as far 359 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 9: as Christian goes, I'm hoping this Sunday you know, Sunday 360 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 9: to Sunday schedule for for the foreseeable future will help 361 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 9: hopefully with getting a little bit more of you know, 362 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 9: of seventy one out there on a consistent basis. 363 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 2: Heaven, how how close do you feel like and Drew 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: van Ginkel is to returning. 365 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he's a guy that's been able to 366 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 9: kind of continuously you know, get the get the limited 367 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: working on the practice field to try to continue to 368 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 9: stay sharp as he kind of uh tries to get 369 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 9: back into a place to be available to us. I'm encouraged, 370 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 9: you know, by the fact that we've got a little 371 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 9: bit more time this week and and how how Gink 372 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 9: can possibly turn over and when he's available and we 373 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 9: can get him back out there. 374 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 7: He's one of those guys. 375 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 9: That is a critical part of of how we want 376 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 9: to play defense. So when we can make that happen, 377 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 9: and when that happens will be uh will be a 378 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 9: huge boost for us. Don't really have an update right 379 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 9: now on on that for for next week in any 380 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 9: kind of concrete way, but my hope is that we 381 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 9: we get to see Gink sooner rather than later for sure. 382 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 12: Kevin, what is your just mindset with the offense with 383 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 12: JJ McCarthy coming back and how you approach that with 384 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 12: obviously an inexperienced, younger quarterback, but also wanting to maximize 385 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 12: and improve what you've had offensively the last couple of weeks. 386 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, you know, really, outside of yesterday, over 387 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 9: the past you know, four or five weeks, we've seen 388 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 9: the ability to move the football, to do some of 389 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 9: the things that we've kind of been accustomed to for 390 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 9: the better part of three years of being able to 391 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 9: you know, find you know, find completions, move the football, 392 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 9: and then we've just had lapses at times in different 393 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 9: instances of either third down or red zone, specifically against 394 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 9: the Philadelphia Eagles that were kind of setbacks to ultimately 395 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 9: getting the points required to win games. Yesterday, we didn't 396 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 9: do much of of you know, much of those things 397 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 9: at all, so we can't look at it as an outlier. 398 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 9: We've got to try to find a way to find 399 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 9: our rhythm, find our identity as a group, and with 400 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 9: JJ he he'll play an integral part of that from 401 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 9: a from a standpoint of his ability to throw completions, 402 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 9: his ability to get our playmakers involved, in his ability 403 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 9: to use the athleticism that that we saw, you know, 404 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 9: early on in the season, stealing some first downs here 405 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 9: and there, using his legs, creating some plays potentially out 406 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 9: of the pockets, to go along with hopefully finding a 407 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 9: rhythm and and a completion base feel with the ability 408 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 9: to find those explosives that have kind of defined, you know, 409 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 9: what our offense you know, can be when we're working 410 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 9: at all cylinders, but it's got to be an all 411 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 9: eleven thing. 412 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 7: We've got to protect him. 413 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 9: We've got to find a way to provide the quarterback 414 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 9: with time to find those those open players. And then 415 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 9: for JJ, it's going to be about, uh, the commitment 416 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 9: that he's made throughout his rehab to you know, getting 417 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 9: back to the those concrete fundamentals and techniques that allow 418 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 9: his feet and eyes to work together and find completions. 419 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 7: You know, to any one. 420 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 9: Of our five eligibles, whether it's a receiver, whether it's 421 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 9: tj or one of our tight ends or even you know, 422 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 9: Aaron Jones or Jordan Za, you know, out of the backfield, 423 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 9: all of. 424 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: Those things can be valuable. 425 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 9: And then you know, just all the complimentary tiers of plays, 426 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 9: whether it's the screen game, the RPO game, you know, 427 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 9: different variations of getting the ball into playmaker's hands with 428 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 9: blockers out in front. All of those plays come down 429 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 9: to obviously the defense that you're calling them against, but 430 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 9: then the execution level of the details and the things 431 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 9: that make those plays that maybe end up as three 432 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 9: four yard games or not. Even so, you know, as 433 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 9: we saw in the first play of the game, you know, 434 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 9: the ability to get a drive started in a positive 435 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 9: way and we're not able to make that throw and 436 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 9: catch there, and then we're second and ten. 437 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 7: And able to convert on a third and longer. 438 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 9: But you don't want to live in that world consistently, 439 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 9: you know, and especially looking ahead to to how well 440 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 9: Detroit's playing defensively, we're going to have to be able 441 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 9: to sustain some early down success and I think jj'll 442 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 9: play a role in that as well as you know, 443 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 9: getting that all leven feel of no matter what the 444 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 9: scheme is, getting the execution to the line. Uh so 445 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 9: we can allow our you know, our playmakers and and 446 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 9: and coinciding with that our run game to to work 447 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 9: hand in hand. 448 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 7: Last one to Dane. 449 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: Kevin, just going back to Christian, real quick conversations on 450 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: the sideline, Like is that him coming up to you 451 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: guys saying I can't go? Or like, how does you 452 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 5: know the chain of command work when when he does 453 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: come out of the game, you know, yesterday and then 454 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 5: I get the same thing against the Browns too. 455 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: Is that him saying I need it? 456 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 5: Or is that kind of working in concert with with 457 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: kind of everybody involved. 458 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know, from a standpoint as coaches, you know, 459 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 9: we go into the game kind of knowing where Christian's at. 460 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 9: You know, he he was able to work out before 461 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 9: the game and and feel like he could give it 462 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 9: a go, and then it's really kind of an unknown 463 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 9: in many ways. And and that leads to Christian's dialogue 464 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 9: with the medical staff and kind of where he thinks, 465 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 9: where he thinks he's at and his ability to go 466 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 9: out and do his job ultimately is is is the 467 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 9: most important thing, and and we want to always allow 468 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 9: the medical staff and the player uh to kind of 469 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 9: set the precedent for that. 470 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 7: But at the same time we've got a plan. 471 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 9: Accordingly, we did have nine linement up for the game, 472 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 9: and as we did for the Cleveland game as well, 473 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 9: when when it was a possibility that we might not 474 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 9: have him maybe for. 475 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 7: The whole entire game. 476 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 9: But at the same time, there's no preset number, there's 477 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 9: no preset. 478 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 7: Kind of management plan. 479 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 9: As much as we've got to listen to the listen 480 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 9: to the player, and the player's got to listen to 481 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 9: his body and and then all ultimately the medical staff 482 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 9: and then the player making a determination on can they 483 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 9: go out there and function and do their job. And 484 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 9: that's kind of been the situation in some of those 485 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 9: kind of unique either you know, turning over from a 486 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 9: lot of plays against Pittsburgh to a you know, another 487 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 9: game there and in London where you know there there 488 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 9: was time but maybe not the most standard week of 489 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 9: preparation with some of the circumstances there. And then obviously 490 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 9: the Thursday game is its own animal that that all thirty. 491 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 7: Two teams have to deal with. 492 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 9: It just so happens that Christian's coming back from a 493 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 9: significant injury that that has kind of, you know, required 494 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 9: a certain level of you know, I would just say 495 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 9: a certain level of understanding about where he's at and 496 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 9: and and and how that arrow, you know, we keep 497 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 9: that arrow pointing up and progressing throughout the season as 498 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 9: he gets it further and further away from that injury. 499 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: So there is your head coach, Kevin O'Connell, bumper to bumpers, 500 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: the name of the program, Berrero and Blakemore with you 501 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: until six thirty tonight. I have a number of people 502 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: who texted Blakemore saying you should be if you haven't 503 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: already checked the tape that there was indeed, a things 504 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 2: are easily correctible. Moment uttered early and as you know, 505 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: that cliche has people in this town breaking out in 506 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: hives because whether Koc knows it or not immediately people 507 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: are sent back in a nightmarish way to the era 508 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: of Christian ponder. So we'll double check it and if 509 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: we get it, we'll try to make a SoundBite out 510 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: of it, and maybe we will even indeed play it forever. 511 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: I can't say that the head coach gave us a 512 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: lot to chew on there. He gave us very little 513 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: to chew on. But the I think the audio was 514 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: good and we wanted to play it because it's the 515 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: day after and it is the head coach of your 516 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: favorite football team. So we'll set the table when we 517 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: come back. We got vikings talking points, a lot to 518 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: say about what was asked today, some really really tough, 519 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: tough questions, including my favorite obviously was the you know, 520 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: how much does it help that everybody's going to stick 521 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: together at a time like this. It's just it's it's 522 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: amazing to me. But well, there's other questions that maybe 523 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: weren't asked that we can talk about, and there's a 524 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: lot to address regarding the game itself. Ben gesling in 525 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: an hour and Lavelle will give his point of view 526 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: probably about five thirty. If you want China, what's happening 527 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: with your favorite kfan shows. You can make your voice 528 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: heard on the Brad Shawn Bryant kfaan text line, So 529 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: let us know what you have to say by texting 530 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: your message to six four six eighty six at six 531 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: four six eight six Stanner text message in day rate 532 00:28:52,360 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: supply I and left. I think with only one conclusion 533 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: surrounding the CHOC decision, the as far as I'm concerned, 534 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: indefensible CHOC decision to all but force Carson Wentz to 535 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: stay in the game until all four quarters were played. 536 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 2: The only rational way that can be explained is that 537 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: he didn't believe he, being the head coach, that the 538 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: quarterback was in as much pain as he seemed to show. 539 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: He didn't hide any of it, and I'm here to 540 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: say should have. I'm not here to say it was 541 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: milking it. But that's the only rational explanation for why 542 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: a quarterback in his condition was not pulled from the game. 543 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: It makes no other sense. He wasn't asked about it today. 544 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: We played the entire presser today. I don't know how 545 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: much he got into it yesterday. I think there was 546 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: some questioning last night after the game, and it was 547 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: viewed as more of a pain issue and if you 548 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: can tolerate the pain, then there it wasn't any further 549 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: damage that was going to be done to the shoulder, 550 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: which might well be true. I don't know, but there is. 551 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: I don't think there's, like I said, other than I 552 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: can't tell anybody this, but yeah, he's milking it a 553 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: little bit that you don't pull up as a head coach. 554 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: You have to put him out of his misery in 555 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: that situation. And let me quickly add before the Brosmurer 556 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: Brownstone people go irrational on the bit, and we've had 557 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: fun with the bit and I'm in on some of it. 558 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: You don't replace him with Brosmer because you think Brozmer 559 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: has a chance to steal the game. Or here's the 560 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: other theory that's being offered. It's afraid to play him. 561 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: He knows, does koc. He's got to turn the club 562 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: or the team over to JJ McCarthy on whatever that 563 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: early November day is that we play Detroit next time 564 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: we play, and he's scared that Brozemer might play so 565 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: well in the second half of this game or the 566 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: last quarter of this game against the Chargers that he'll 567 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: have another quarterback controversy on his hands. I mean, there's 568 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: delusional and then there's like hardcore delusional. But I'll say 569 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: part of the reason I guess you can offer that 570 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: nonsense with a straight face is how because it's so 571 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: hard to come up with any other explanation that makes sense. 572 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: It's so odd to me that the head coach, who 573 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: prides himself on humanity right being not a player's coach 574 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: in a soft sense, but in a sense of treating 575 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: players the right way, and that's an important part of 576 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: what he thinks has been built at in winter Park, 577 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: that he would not, you know, an inner voice wouldn't 578 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: at some point in the fourth quarter, maybe even after 579 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: the interception that's being way overplayed as being all that meaningful. 580 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: The interception on the overthrow at Jefferson. The team was 581 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: already down then, was it thirty one to ten? Was 582 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: a thirty four to ten game? Was already over? Not 583 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: a good throw, but the game's over. But the idea 584 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: that I think, because it's so hard to explain that 585 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: you didn't pull them as this coach who wants to 586 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: always tell us how you got to you got to 587 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: treat the players right, I think it's borderline neglect, borderline abuse. 588 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: No illusions for me, as a guy who has always 589 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: liked Brosmer, liked him last year at the U, intrigued 590 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: about him making the roster, Intrigued with the possibility that's 591 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: somewhere down the road there might be a place for 592 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: him in the NFL if US say NHL. Intrigued is 593 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: what I said, though intrigued by the possibility. But I've 594 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: got no illusions. I'm putting him in the game to 595 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: save this man from further agony. And all I'm going 596 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: to ask Brozmer to do is not allow himself to 597 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: get killed. And how am I going to do that. 598 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to do something that, quite frankly, I as 599 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: always I didn't do as much as I vowed I 600 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: was going to do. Hand the ball off, check down, 601 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: throw swing passes, and just play the game out. I 602 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: actually had somebody when I laid out the X this 603 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: morning that if you evaluate the total system failure that 604 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 2: took place in Inglewood, California, last night, as primarily related 605 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: to the new accusation that the current backup quarterback of 606 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: the team, Carson Wentz, holds onto the ball too long, 607 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: you've lost the plot. There were so many things that 608 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: broke down yesterday in that game that go well beyond 609 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: whatever the quarterbacks performance was. But we have this is 610 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: how delusional people have gotten on the Brozeman Brownstones thing. 611 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: One guy said, but wait, didn't you see he got 612 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: rid of the ball quicker. He got rid of the 613 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: ball quicker on the last drive of the game when 614 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: the Chargers aren't trying to defend anything, the game is over. 615 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: How often in garbage time do we see exactly that 616 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: kind of drive? It means nothing. And again, I love 617 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: Rosmer as much as the next guy, maybe not as 618 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: much as Guardsy, but I try to be in the 619 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: same zip code with him. But that sounds that's hows stupid. 620 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: This stuff gets a shooty. And again, I love Gopher Hole, 621 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 2: I love Gopher Nation, but we all they also act 622 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: like did the Gophers go to the Rose Bowl last year? 623 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: He was good, I liked him, but it's just it's insane. 624 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: But I think, in fairness to those delusional folks who 625 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: are going with conspiracy theories like it's Fridplin, it's Fred 626 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: that the reason they are willing to throw that nonsense 627 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: out is there is no rational explanation for continuing to play, 628 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, I guess I am supper. There hasn't been 629 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: more pushback from the media jackals on this, especially again, 630 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: as I said, with a coach who is who has 631 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: sort of placed himself as we play, we coach with humanity. 632 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: We may coach hard, but we coach with humanity. How 633 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: is that the human decision to make that just absolutely 634 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: makes no sense, unless, as I said, he was he'd 635 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: been told by doctors, don't pay attention to how often 636 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: and how evident he's making. The pain on his face 637 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: means nothing. It means he's overplaying his hand or whatever. 638 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 2: I don't know how else to explain it. Every time 639 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: the guy went down it looked like he was not 640 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: gonna get up. Game is over. So again, I don't 641 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: want to put somebody else in so you can get 642 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: a spark. God, you go to spark the defense too. 643 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 2: That's another whole subject. We've got plenty of talking points 644 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 2: on that. Just get the healthy guy in the game, 645 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: tell him to stay out of the way, take no hits. 646 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: Maybe at this point, I don't even know if they 647 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 2: blitzed much on that last drive. Hardball by then might 648 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: have had mercy to say let's say the game's over. 649 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: Let's we'll let them have their cute little drive down 650 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 2: the field with the third string quarterback and and and 651 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: they can feel better about themselves. But at that point 652 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: it did not even matter. In any case, let's do this. 653 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: Let's stay on schedule, because we went long with the 654 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 2: presser that did you find by the way, is there 655 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: a easily correctable have you found it yet? I have 656 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: found it? Have you isolated it yet? 657 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 7: It is? 658 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 9: Many things on the film are correctable. 659 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: So at least he didn't go easily correctable that the 660 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: ponder sound bite was easily correctable. He just went with correctable. 661 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: But it's still too close, isn't it. For here's the 662 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: fault at it for a little longer. Okay, of things 663 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: that that we can improve. Many things on the film 664 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: are correctable, and the easy the word sound a little 665 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: bit okay? Yeah, well yeah, you usually do with him. Interesting, 666 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 2: all right, Well, we'll try to hold on to that 667 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: Vikings talking points Ben Gesling four thirty And we'll get 668 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: Lavelle's view on the current state of the Minnesota Vikings 669 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: and so maybe some other stories twins managerial search, who 670 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: knows what else? 671 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 7: Stay tuned. 672 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 8: Babies cry, and that's normal. But if you're feeling overwhelmed, 673 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 8: it's okay to just step away. Never shake a baby. 674 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 8: Shaking can kill one and four don't survive. Survivors off 675 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 8: and face permanent brain damage. Learn more and get today. 676 00:38:35,360 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 8: Never shake en dot com. 677 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: Let's get to it. The first is Ron, the late 678 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: great Ron Rosenbaum used to say, let's start at the beginning. 679 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: Let's start with the pick six. It wasn't Herbert out 680 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: of the shotgun on second down. Mittelli's blitzes and Herbert 681 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: threw it right to isay you Rogers. 682 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 13: Inside the ten touchdown. The Minnesota Vikings took the ball 683 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 13: from justin Herbert, and I say you Rogers ran it 684 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 13: into the end zone for US six zero lea. 685 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 2: Hallballs state incomplete. Of course it is. Hallball's on on 686 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: the big screen. I hadn't talked to the official. State 687 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: it's incomplete. Right, here's the official after review, the willing 688 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: in the fields are incomplete. Pass that's special. Here's a 689 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 2: third that's super special. It was the correct call. We'll 690 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: all agree on this one. I was actually in the 691 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: Viking side regarding the tight end catch a week ago, 692 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: even though a lot of officials say that one wasn't 693 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: as close as some of us thought it was. But 694 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: this one, what's interesting is I thought the whoever the 695 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: officiating guy was that they went to last night, he 696 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: seemed to be hemming and hanging in a way that 697 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 2: at first he thought it was going to be upheld, 698 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: and eventually maybe it was one of those reverse angles 699 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 2: that also convinced him. I thought it was pretty clear 700 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: from the beginning that he did not have control of 701 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: the ball. But it's a gut punch, right because when 702 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: you are the team reeling, which the Vikings were coming 703 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 2: off the last game, and you're flying across the country 704 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: and you kind of know, even though the Chargers have 705 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 2: not played very well, that you're vulnerable to lose again. 706 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: You're looking for something that can turn it right. You 707 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: are looking for a defensive place. We talked about team 708 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 2: that had going into the game seven takeaways, five of 709 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: them coming against the Bengals and zero in the last 710 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: three games. 711 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 7: You're going here we go. 712 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes that's what you need to tip the balance in 713 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: your direction. So it was an absolute gut punch. But 714 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: you'll notice today as we do talking points the rest 715 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 2: of the way. There's a similarity to all of them 716 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: in that they read as follows the pick six that wasn't, 717 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: which you just heard, the ground game that wasn't, the 718 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: run defense that wasn't, the pass defense that wasn't, the 719 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 2: highly tutored up and comer defensive player who isn't. You 720 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: can all guess on who that might be, and the 721 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 2: pass protection that wasn't. That's the theme. It's what didn't 722 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: and wasn't happening, and it's that's why I think the 723 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: old poll ad quote about total system failure applies in 724 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: this case. Now, can you, on a given Sunday or Thursday, 725 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: get a spark from the most important position on the 726 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 2: field that seems to transcend all of your other problems. 727 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: The answer is yes, it does happen. It usually doesn't 728 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: isn't sustained if you don't deal with those other failures, 729 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: But absolutely it can. It can make you feel like 730 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 2: the weights off of your team's shoulders, that somebody has 731 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: come through with a couple of plays, exciting plays, or 732 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: just seems to turn it. So I'm not ruling that 733 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: out about putting in a new quarterback. Even JJ McCarthy 734 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: as inadequate as he looked the last time we saw him. 735 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 2: Those things can indeed happen. But I defy you, as 736 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 2: I said, to watch that game and say, we just 737 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: got to take care of the offense. We just got 738 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 2: to get healthy on the offensive line. How does that 739 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: explain a defense that now every time it plays a 740 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: legitimate quarterback, well legitimate to good quarterback, gets diced up. 741 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that was not even close to competitive defensively, 742 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: And I am firmly convinced if Harbaugh wanted to be 743 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: a jackass, they might have and if it was a 744 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: closer game, Chargers might have been able to score fifty. 745 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 2: I really believe that. I mean, at some point they 746 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: went to that other mode and said, all right, we 747 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: can just kind of play this game out. We can 748 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: settle for field goals. We will just will keep tacking 749 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: up points there and we're going to be fine in 750 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: this game. But that play that wasn't very early in 751 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: the game, I think set the tone because everything was 752 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 2: in the wasn't category in every classification. There was no 753 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: run defense, there was no pass defense, there was no 754 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: pass protection, and yes, there really was no legitimate quarterback play. 755 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 2: But I'll say again, I will defy you to watch, 756 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: especially in the first and second quarters, of what Wentz 757 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: was dealing with in terms of pressure, and tell me 758 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 2: that anybody, even somebody throwing a little better than he 759 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: has tended to, was going to be able to do 760 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: anything with that on that given night. I think I 761 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 2: understand human nature. Human nature is you want to think 762 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 2: there's a way out because the alternative is too devastating. 763 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: The alternative is we're just not very good, so you 764 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 2: want to go, oh, way out, Brosemann, way out of 765 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 2: the quarterback. And it look, I've said all along, I've 766 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 2: been unfairly accused of being a wentz apologist. No, it's 767 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 2: not that so much as I've tended to defend him 768 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: from some of the onslaught because people have gotten irrational 769 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: in not paying attention to other aspects of this team. 770 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: But what I said all along was the assumption is 771 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: once will come back to the pack for whatever the reason, 772 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 2: even if some it's not his fault, and when he 773 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 2: does the decisions, the decision is easy. The decision's now easy. 774 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 2: There's no drama, there's nothing else to think about. 775 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 7: It's done. 776 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: Vikings. When they play next against the Detroit Lions on 777 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 2: is it November two. You double check the date. It's 778 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: early November. It is November two. JJ McCarthy will be 779 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback now. The only way that he isn't 780 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: is if he's hurt, right, I mean, are still isn't 781 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: healthy enough to play? That's the only reason. But it's 782 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: now McCarthy's team again. And at this point what you 783 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 2: go with is you can't even necessarily worry about whether 784 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: that means the season's lost and you're going to have 785 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 2: to deal with a lot of McCarthy mistakes. You don't 786 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 2: have any alternatives that you're excited about. Now for some people, 787 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: it'll be Brozemer still. And what's ironic about it is, 788 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 2: can we all agree that if Max Brosmer had played 789 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 2: at Tulane, nobody, nobody would be clamoring for what we 790 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 2: got gotta put out there? Put him out there instead 791 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 2: of JJ? What are we basing the belief that he's 792 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 2: a better option right now than JJ McCarthy, As someone 793 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: has been pretty hard on JJ? What what what's the basis 794 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 2: of that college careers? Oh, did Michigan kids did pretty good? 795 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 2: Had better infrastructure around him and did pretty good. It's 796 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 2: the it's it's the backup quarterback syndrome. That's now to 797 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 2: the tenth power because we remember him he was a golfer, 798 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: and there's the gopher hole of his hoolization of the 799 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: culture that is good at now. I've I've nurtured some 800 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: of it as fifty percent a bit, and sadly we've 801 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 2: got a lot of people who believe it to that extent. 802 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: And I don't know. And again am I ruling out 803 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 2: the possibility that's somewhere down the road JJ McCarthy, I 804 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 2: should say bro Brosemer will end up having a better 805 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 2: pro career than JJ McCarthy. No, I'm not, because we've 806 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 2: seen weird things happen, but there's really no evidence, even 807 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 2: from a scientific standpoint, an analytics standpoint, historic standpoint, to 808 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: think that, yeah, I'll play those odds. It's because he've 809 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 2: played here for one year and we like saying the 810 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 2: name Brozmer, and I think we kind of like the 811 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 2: first name Max too. And he seems to be everywhere. 812 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: When he's not with the Vikings, he's in another Gopher game, 813 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: and he's on the sidelines, and he's always coaching, and 814 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: he's always doing you know, maybe he should have five 815 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 2: different jobs I don't know. Top of the eye break 816 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: Ben Gessling at about thirty more vikings, talking points to 817 00:47:53,600 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: get to and maybe even a little conversation on Gopher's eye. 818 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: Iowa a big game tomorrow for the Gophers because you 819 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 2: got to capitalize on what they did against Nebraska. If 820 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 2: you turn around and lay an egg in Iowa City, 821 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 2: a lot of bat juice goes away. It's about building 822 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 2: on the way you played in very convincing fashion. Not 823 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: that far from here. Last was that Saturday night the 824 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 2: Saturday night game? Yeah, it was against or was it 825 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 2: Friday night? Friday night game against the Nebraska cornhu