1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Pieces your will, somebody please make it stop. Leader Fan 2 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Fan Radio Network and k fa N dot Com one 3 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: minute and fifty two seconds past the hour of three 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: o'clock Central daylight time. Welcome Back, midweek edition, Wednesday, production 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: of the Bumper to Bumper program on a gorgeous, crisp 6 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: fall afternoon here in the twin cities of Minneapolis and 7 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Saint Paul. Is this our last week? By the way 8 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: of uh, we changed the clocks this weekend, don't we. 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: And I didn't know that until about three hours ago. Okay, 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: I heard it listening. 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: It's usually right after Halloween, and Halloween's Friday, right FIRSTUS Friday. 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: So this is the weekend we go back to standard time, 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: and we have the big debate this weekend. But the 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: doctors that come forward and say we should stay on 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: standard time all year, because each time we make this switch, 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand people die as a result of it. 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: It's tough and it seems like a supreme sacrifice. I say, sorry, 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: we're going to keep it the way it is fall back. 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: I have no problem keeping it the way it is. 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: Guards he produces the show. My name is Dan Barrero 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: form Ringstein Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities, and we 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: are delighted that you are long for today's bumpy rye 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: Glenn Mason four h two. Not in Fargo, but here guards, 25 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: he tells me. And Pat Kessler is scheduled in studio 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: as well at five point thirty. He's going to be 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: able to file a live report on what it was 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: like to see the carnage up close and personal. In 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. He was there as the plus one 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: in the beautiful People's suite for the Vikings Chargers debacle. 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Correct, he was. I don't know if he was in 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: a suite. It sounds better. 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: I was going to say his labrum is also ailing 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: after patting all the wolfs on the back for two 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: straight days. 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: There's no question about it. I'm sure that happened. 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah that I have no doubt whatsoever that that would 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: that indeed took place. And I'm sure how much eye 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: rolling do you think there is when big shots are 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: around Kessler these days? I mean, I he they may 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: do a good job of hiding it from him, but 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: I you know, out of respect for missus Kessler in part, yes, 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: there's got to be a lot of eye rolling that goes. 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: Oh, here he comes again. 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Doesn't he have anything to do? Give him something to do? 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, problem, he's got too much free. 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: There's only so many art history classes that you can 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: uh write. What's the term for you if you don't 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: technically attend college audit? That's the word, thank you. There's 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: only so many of those are can audit. I think 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: he's run out of them. In fact, he has. We are, 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: as I said, delighted you are along for today's production 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: broadcast between now and I'll say six thirty now, But 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we're going to six thirties. 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: We usually yesterday. We find out about that? How find out? Well, 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: we've been told. 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: It's just we double check and then I think today's 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: six thirty Tomorrow it's like five forty five. 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: It is. Yes, you told me we. 60 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: Were going deep out. 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: That's good. I'm not complaining. 62 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: We're usually out at six. But because there's a say tomorrow, yeah, 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: that's true. Okay, so it's about fifteen minutes early. Vikey, 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: I should say Timberwolves I'm the fan tonight or just 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves channel. I was distracted because I guess I 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: was in a suite yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Unbelievable, 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: he'd he see how quickly he had to make sure 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: you knew it wasn't him. 69 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: Oh, it wasn't ye, it wasn't him. It was another 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: source on the ground. 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Ah. 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Interesting, it was with the peasants. Okay, good night. 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: I would imagine although this individual he can text me 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: he was probably in the suite too, Wolves Lakers. 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: On the fan that it's another late start. It is. 76 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: This is the burden associated with being a national TV Darling, Right, 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: you're we're in so many a national games this year, 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I know, and there's national net works you know, have 79 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: coverage every day basically. So that's the price you pay, 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: because I'm sure for a lot of people it's not 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: a real convenient start when it's eight forty. 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: It's not It can't be. 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: It's a school night, the whole bit, especially if that's 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: the case tonight in October. 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we deal with it in April and 86 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: it's correct, game two of the first round doubleheader in 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs. You kind of get the bit to have 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: two of your first three home games at eight thirty. 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: That's not great, No, it's not ideal. No, you got 90 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: nut up. 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: We do. We tell people to do that in the playoffs. 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: So no, Lebron tonight, no lifts some Luca tonight he's 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: out as well. 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: Correct. 95 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then they got the new scorer, what's his name, 96 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: Billy Kobe? Yep, who is now getting used to score. 97 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: What's going to happen when they come back is I'm 98 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: wondering if the Hillbilly's gonna say, I ain't staying here'tain 99 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I can score fifty? Yep, we're happy for you. Know, Lebron, 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: you're ninety and lift some Luca. I get it, you 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: lost some weight where That's wonderful. But I can score. 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: I got to handle them. 103 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Let me give me the ball. 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: Get out of my way. Who cards hill Billy Kobe tonight? 105 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: That's the question? 106 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Does nobody right now? According to FINCHI Does Finchy have 107 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: confidence in Jaden McDaniels. 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: To do it? The problem? 109 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all part of I think a very 110 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: orchestrated campaign. I hope so more on that it works. 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Is there any chance that you can make it stop? 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Just end it? 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't. I'm worried. 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Here's your headline. Got if I had a buck for 116 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: every time this headline appeared. I wouldn't be I'd be 117 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: in molly right now. The athletic today, Wilde felt they 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: were better team in four to three overtime loss to 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: the Jets. When is somebody gonna say to members of 120 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: this organization, to players, nobody gives a rat ass that you, 121 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I guess, not having anything else to say in the 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: locker room, think. 123 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: We got the better of it. 124 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: Stop saying it, even if you believe it. 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: Keep it inside you. And then when you've. 126 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Gone on it, after you've gone on like a fifteen 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: game unbeaten streak and you've established your bonafides one of 128 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: these seasons, dare I say postseason people might accept it, 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: but I heard it. We've this season. We've already I 130 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: bet you we've already heard that like five times. And 131 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: we're not the wild are not the only hockey team 132 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: to do it, not the only sports franchisees shyes, that 133 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: does it. But it's just it's annoying, it's obnoxious, and 134 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. 135 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: We lost in overtime four to three, did we not? 136 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: We turned the ball, our best player turned earned the 137 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: puck over in overtime, leading to one of the easiest 138 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: overtime goals I've ever seen, and the game was over 139 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: at that point. How do you deserve better when you 140 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: give up a goal that way. We've lost seven of 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: our last eight. I get it, oh points and back 142 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: to back home games, but we've lost seven of the 143 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: last eight, including the first three of what was viewed 144 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: after the five game road trip disaster, a pretty important 145 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: early season six game homestand you hote this, there's no 146 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: equity on this team to go with what hockey players 147 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: have said, generation after generation played better, got the better 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: of it. Now there's even just as damaging. There's the 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: new analytic right, well, it's relatively new and this is 150 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: basically really how many goals? 151 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, here it is, I'll read it. 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: This is from the the Joe Smith piece in the 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Athletic today. This contributes to the madness. The Wild held 154 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: a four point four to four to two point four 155 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: to advantage in expected goals in all situations per something 156 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: called natural stat trick. That's what it is. It's a trick, 157 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: and it's not going to playcate. A fan base that 158 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: with every game that goes by has every reason to 159 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: tune out, even this early in the season and to 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: roll their eyes and say, man, stop talking about getting 161 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: the better end of play, because it doesn't count that 162 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: way in the standings. And you're not a good enough 163 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: like I said, you're not a good enough team to 164 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: fall back on that cliche and have anybody believe. 165 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: It is there way, Like. 166 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Could we Maybe I'll text Bill Garran and I'll ask 167 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: him if he would consider fining the next player next 168 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: one of his players who uses that quote. Let's see 169 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: who the quotes came from in this game. Afterwards, there 170 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: were a couple, I believe Jake Middleton said it was 171 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: probably one of our more complete sixty minutes Midzi Rock Faber, 172 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I thought we were the better team. It's one of 173 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: those things where we play that game ten times over. 174 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: We have a good chance of winning a lot of 175 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: those games. I understand, and I can live with the cliches. 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: We got to stay the course, We got to stay together. 177 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: We can't panic. We got a lot of ground, you know, 178 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: ground to make up. But we you know, we have to. 179 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: We can't cave in. 180 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: Now. Those I all would understand got the better of 181 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: the action. 182 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Here's the fatal flaw regarding some of those analytics for me, 183 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: especially in hockey, you can have a stretch in the 184 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: game where you do seem to be sort of controlling 185 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: the action, okay, but if in that stretch you don't score, 186 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and so the rest of the game 187 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: becomes You can't just isolate on those sections that serve 188 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: your purpose of trying to take the pressure off. This 189 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: team has only one way to take the pressure off, 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: win more games. That's what it's going to take. Maybe 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: they're incapable of it. Hell, lovel did you see the 192 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: label headline? 193 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: I didn't. 194 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Basically, maybe we need to take a long, hard look 195 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: and change the expectations of the twenty twenty five twenty 196 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: six it's. 197 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Not even Halloween. 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: It's subtle wild. Yeah, But maybe he's right. I mean, hell, 199 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: by Sunday, he'll probably know. By Monday, he'll probably write 200 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: the same com about the Vikings after they get. 201 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: Destroyed in Detroit, because it'll be the same thing. 202 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's we got to reconsider what the realistic goals 203 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: are for twenty twenty five. It's possible there may be 204 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: a number of teams that fall sadly into that classification 205 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: before this thing is done. 206 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: But I just. 207 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: I can't believe what have we said about hockey fans. 208 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: They're defensive, they're fairly parochial, but I don't think they 209 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: like being lied to. I think they take their hockey seriously. 210 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: I think they take their own understanding of the game 211 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: seriously and often. They might well be the most knowledgeable 212 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: fan base of any sport in this town. The people 213 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: who are into it right, I can't believe they like 214 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: hearing this crap repeat it over and over again, because 215 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: after a while, it's like we said with the pelf scale, 216 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: if over and over, you know, the Mike Pelfrey bit 217 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: that we started with the pel scale was the first 218 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: time Mike Pelfrey after a game looked into the eyes 219 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: of the Jackals and said, boys and girls, that loss 220 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: is on me. I was not good enough. I didn't 221 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: give the team the number of innings and performance that 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: it deserved. I'm raising my hand. I'm gonna take responsibility. 223 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm better than that. 224 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: The problem with Pelfrey was, like the sixth time he 225 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: did that in like two months, you go, well, okay, 226 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: this sounds this sounded good. Originally, it sounds like, hey, 227 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: he's not blaming anybody else. He's not saying, well, as 228 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Scotti Erickson once did the former Twins pitcher, I mean 229 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: once the ball leaves my hands. 230 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: I have no control over what happens to it in 231 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: terms of how it's hit. He didn't do any of that. 232 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: He said, No, it's I'm not making good enough pitches. 233 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: But at some point that loses his impact. If you 234 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: have to keep doing it over and over and over again, 235 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: people go, well, the words were nice the first, second, 236 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: third time, but by the fourth time, it's like, you 237 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: gotta do something about it. 238 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: On the diamond from the mound, same with this. 239 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: It's it's if it hasn't fallen on deaf ears already, 240 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: it should because it doesn't. Here's the other fact factor. 241 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: We heard about this. What game was it on the 242 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: road trip where Louie basically said the same thing the 243 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: wild where they had one horrible game and then they 244 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: had one where we deserve better, right, And that may 245 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: well have been on that occasion, but it if you 246 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: keep going down that road, it's almost like you're asking 247 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: people to so do you remember the games? Are players 248 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: just as brutally honest about I'll be honest with you, 249 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: they oh played our ass almost start to finish, we 250 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't deserve the victory. I don't think you hear that 251 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: very much. Maybe you do what I've missed it, then 252 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: that might be more. I might be willing to accept it. 253 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, if people say, in that position, find a 254 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: way to win, right, didn't have our best stuff, but 255 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: found a way to win. Right, we want to get 256 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: patted on the back for that. We're not in those 257 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: situations going well, I can't believe we got two points 258 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: in the standings for that. Is there any way we 259 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: can petition that because we didn't deserve it. Nobody says that. 260 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Nobody should because in the end, you have to win. 261 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know anybody who's watching this team now 262 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: says they're playing winning hockey or anything close to it. 263 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: The goaltender has not been good. I don't care what 264 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: anybody says. The stuff happening in front of him has 265 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: not been good. And you can even again talk about injuries. 266 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm not even denying it, but just stop with the 267 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: man we had. It's almost like, well if we well, 268 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: he did say it, Faber. So let's see if we 269 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: play that same game ten ten games over what we 270 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: would win seven of them? What difference does that make right? 271 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: You either you win or you you play to win 272 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: the game, don't you? You do occasionally to tie. And 273 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: we did get a point again for the second YEP 274 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: straight game, but it did I didn't come out of 275 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: that game feeling like they. 276 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: Should be happy with that, and they haven't shown we had. 277 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: A nice comeback after we get down early and then 278 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: we blow that lead and then. 279 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: We lose it. 280 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: Like I said, instantaneously after we lost control of the 281 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: puck in ot And as I'm watching the first pariod 282 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: last night, I'm thinking to myself, they're playing pretty well, 283 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: they've got some jump, they've had a lot of good chances, 284 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: and they're down to zero. 285 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: Right, it doesn't matter how well you're playing if you're 286 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: down and they got that, does it? They got themselves 287 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: back in it, and sure, moral victory point whatever you 288 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: want to call it. But the other issue is they 289 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: haven't shown the ability to replicate the effort that Faber 290 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: is talking to No right, when you say, if we 291 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: do that ten times, we're going to be on the 292 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: right side of things. But that's been part of the 293 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: problem this season. Right, they haven't done that enough, and 294 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: so you don't get rewarded maybe on the nights that 295 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: you do bring it, but there have been too many 296 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: nights where it's just been a debacle home or road. 297 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 298 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Well, I see, here's an example, a six to one 299 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: to two guy, Dan, did you watch the game? I 300 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: watched every minute of the game. What's the point? 301 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: Well, so what I'll throw it back to six one two? 302 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Guy? 303 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: Did you watch the game? 304 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Are you aroused by the by the the the idea 305 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: that we're going to give ourselves extra juice for hey 306 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: this game? We we they just had a disastrous road 307 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: trip and they've done nothing on this homestand so far, 308 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: who do we just lose to. 309 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: Two nights ago in ot Sharks? Right? Six five? 310 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Is that? If I checked the standings upside, are they 311 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: considered one of the best teams in hockey? 312 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: So what are we doing so you can't? 313 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: You have to build equity to use, in my opinion, 314 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: to utter that cliche and not get mocked for it. 315 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: And we haven't. 316 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: We haven't done any of that to this point. Now, 317 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: if you want to say, well, if we we think, 318 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: if we keep playing this style, we have a chance 319 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: to get it going, I'll listen to that. But I'd 320 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: rather also have with it. But we if we have 321 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: to find a way to win those games. That's what 322 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: separates the great teams from the average and mediocre teams. 323 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: That part doesn't. Just don't think that part changes. So 324 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: in any case, that's where we are. Let' let's go, 325 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: We'll go to twenty second. 326 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: We cannot. 327 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: We can't because we don't have our first guest till 328 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: top of the hour. Six five le should say the 329 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: The Bratchean Brian Kivan text line is six four six. 330 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: Eight six six four six eighty six Dan. The word 331 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: of the day. 332 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: This is from nine to five to two. Guy is delusional. 333 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: I was at the Wild game last night, and Rock 334 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Faber really thinks the Wild we're the better team. His 335 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: face is next to the definition of today's word in 336 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Webster's Dictionary, the Wild. We're lucky to even be in 337 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: the game late in the third period. The team had 338 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: no energy in the first or second periods. That's from 339 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: nine to five two Guy I was there, writes six' 340 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: one two, guy we looked. TERRIBLE i was just wondering 341 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: if you really did watch. It the goalies haven't been, 342 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: bad but nothing else is. WORKING i LIKE i, SAID 343 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: i MAYBE i don't even know what they're capable. Of 344 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: at this, POINT i. Did i'd created a hashtag off 345 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: of the level the link to The Lavelle wild column 346 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: the A Star tribune hashtag longing For. LAMAIRE i know 347 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: it's it's not gonna. Happen louis reminded him he's eighty years. 348 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: Old he's not coming. Back he loves The floorida life too. 349 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: MUCH i get. It i'm just telling, you And i'm 350 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: not even putting it on our, guy our head. 351 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: Coach, now who is our head? Coach? Now oh, tines that's. 352 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Right we've had a. Few BUT i, JUST i, JUST 353 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: i guess What i'm longing for is WHAT i Think lamaire. 354 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: Represents and WHAT i liked About lamaire's coaching style, was, 355 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: well they don't have that much. 356 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: TALENT i have a little like surprise in a couple of. 357 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: Places but there's a way we got to play to 358 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: give ourselves the best chance to at least be. Competitive 359 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: AND i don't care what the general manager, THINKS i 360 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: don't care what fans think in terms, of you, know 361 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: esthetic style of. Hockey we're going to adhere to my. 362 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: Principles The lamaire, principles and maybe that's. Rare maybe there 363 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: aren't very many people who are like that who could 364 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: get that. Done AND i admit, it that was a 365 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: long time, Ago BUT i just what else have we? 366 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: REALLY i, mean we've had a number of coaches, who 367 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: over a period of, time you, go, oh this guy looks, 368 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: promising or this guy looks, interesting or this guy looks 369 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: like he's got a. Chance But i'm reminiscing And i'm 370 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: wa see nostalgic For lamaire in large, measure because you 371 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: can really make the argument that since he, left nothing's happened. 372 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Here in all, seriousness, AGAIN i, supported like you did 373 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: The suit Of perezy signings and to that extent financially 374 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: in terms of attendance and you, know trying to keep 375 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: the franchise. Viable those, moves aggressive moves probably made. Sense 376 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: but in all, honesty did we ever we never went 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: to a conference final in the suit Of perezy, era did? 378 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: We we didn't went to the second round a couple of. 379 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: Times so it's, like, SO i that's WHY i keep 380 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: longing For. 381 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: Lamire that's just BECAUSE i remember then it just felt 382 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: like something different was going on. That this is a 383 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: guy who just, knows who evaluates, ruthlessly doesn't care about hurt. 384 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Feelings here's Why i'm going to, play you want to, 385 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Play here's how you have to, play and got away with, 386 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: it despite the fact THAT i don't think anybody said 387 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: to those early years we were abundant in talent where 388 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: we we couldn't have. Been we were an expansion, team weren't, We. 389 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: And that might be part of. It it was a 390 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: team that knew who they. 391 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Were, yeah it Was grinders that knew who they, were 392 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: and Then, gabrick who was there last night right in 393 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: a very interesting sweater being honored for his contributions to the. 394 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: Franchise it was a group that knew who they were 395 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: and knew who their strengths were and knew how they 396 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: had to play to. Win AND i think this group 397 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: is searching for that a little. Bit they played for 398 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: the sweater back, Then that's what they. Did they played 399 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: for the team of eighteen. Thousand they did, that and 400 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: they played for the state of, hockey. 401 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: The state of. 402 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: Hockey that's. True, yes when it was fresh and, new 403 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: we didn't roll our eyes about that. Cliche the state 404 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: of hockey then or even the. Song we loved every 405 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: bit of. It. 406 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: Goosebumps, YES i am STILL i will say. THIS i 407 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: mentioned this the other. 408 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Day i'm still bitter With falness because he knows my 409 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: affection For La, mayor and he had every opportunity to reach. 410 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: Out in, FACT i think it would have been a 411 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: perfect guest For. Sunday it was one of those two 412 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Hour sunday sermons WEEKS i THINK i. PUT i didn't 413 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Given lamara as much time as he. Wanted maybe you 414 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have wanted any. Time maybe that's the. Problem, yeah 415 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: but we. 416 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Could you know What i'm. 417 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: Saying let's let's link up for The, then he at 418 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: least had an excuse to talk to. Him he was 419 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: in town, right part of the celebration of twenty five, years, 420 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: right that's the whole. Bit. 421 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah and DID i get a call a text from 422 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: him on? THAT i. 423 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: DON'T i don't think he. Did he certainly knows the 424 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: number he. Texted he texts. Enough he definitely knows how 425 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: to make his voice heard when he wants. 426 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: Something where's the headline? AGAIN i gotta look at just 427 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: one more. Time just get me. GOING i don't want 428 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: to lose. 429 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: Anything this is the headline we've also used in the 430 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: postseason a lot. Too, right we, have we have and 431 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: over we absolutely. Have, yeah Unfortunately wild felt they were better. 432 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: Team did you see the? Game surect quote from a 433 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: FAVOR i thought we were the better. Team we played 434 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: that game ten times. Over we have a chance of 435 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: winning a lot of those. Games it. 436 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: Sucks it. 437 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Stinks you just got to get back to. It stick with. 438 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: It should turn our way at some. 439 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: Point well we can if you do all those. 440 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: Things, yes can you have a banner put up that 441 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: you know for our four point four to four to 442 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: two point four to two advantage in expected goals in all? 443 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: Situations it's hard to see the font and you have 444 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: to make it that small in the, banner but yes you. 445 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Could are you on the? Website natural stat? 446 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Trick? 447 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: Much that's what That's that's who came? 448 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 2: Out who has? 449 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: It I'm i'm only on it because that's what we've 450 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: had to hold on. TO i have looked at that site, 451 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: before Because i've had to reference that site, before or 452 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: at least confirm that site. Before maybe the first couple 453 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: of TIMES i read it and, said what is this? 454 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: SITE i need to take a look at. This it's 455 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: it's just. 456 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: It it boggles the. 457 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: Mind all, right let's do. This we'll make this the 458 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. Break let me remind You Glenn 459 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: mason will be in studio at four and we Expect 460 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Pat kessler with all sorts of stories from The West. 461 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: Coast he Tracked Vikings. Chargers he was in The Beautiful 462 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: people's seats for that game and has apparently a lot of. 463 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: MEMORIES i don't know if he had any fights out, 464 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: there but we'll find out if anybody challenged him to 465 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: a brawl or he had to like keep his. Composure 466 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: he is scheduled to join us in studio at five. 467 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Thirty is that? Correct he's coming. In he sent us the. 468 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: List he's ready to. Go, yeah we got some texts 469 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: six four, six eight. Six all we got to do 470 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: is want we come. BACK i think we may have 471 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: struck a nerve with at least one member of the hockey. 472 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: Community that's going to be a good place to come 473 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: back and pick up the. Pieces we got to get 474 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: back to The darosauce. STORY i Thought Alec lewis had 475 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: an interesting piece via The athletic making some of the 476 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: same points THAT i think we've been making about The 477 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: darisaw saga at this, point and whether The vikings have 478 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: some culpability and a couple of fronts in that. Regard we, 479 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: also did you ever think we'd have to say on 480 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: this show we didn't need? Mine? Not we might have 481 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: to say we didn't need mine. Not have you heard 482 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: about what an hero he is already becoming In, Boston. 483 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: Massachusetts i've gotten rumbling to. It. 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Cash hearing loud and clear. 495 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: From the hockey, community as we often do at. 496 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: A time like, this. 497 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Let me get to some of the highlights in this 498 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: segment of The bumper To bumper. Program you two are 499 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: an embarrassment to the state of. Hockey stick to your 500 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: timber puppies and. Tennis that's From gopher hockey. Guy stick 501 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: to your timber puppies and. Tennis, okay we were the 502 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: better team out, there as. Diplomatically diplomatically saying that your 503 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: goalie lets you. Down can't say. That got to say 504 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: something because this reporters asking you don't have to say, 505 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: that And i'll say, again we've had We've this is 506 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: not a new discussion on this show regarding the use 507 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: invoking this particular cliche because it doesn't just apply to. 508 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: HOCKEY i mean the the the probably the most, HISTORIC 509 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: i don't want to was one of your favorite games 510 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: In vikings. History, yeah the Fumble eye, game in which 511 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: we outplayed The New Orleans saints except for the fact 512 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: that we turned the ball over nine times and they were, 513 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: cheating and well they were, Cheating i'll grant you, that 514 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: but we we are self. Inflicted. UH i don't think 515 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: the cheating had anything to do with the missed handoff 516 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half Between Adrian, peterson 517 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: who's been making some news, lately more news and uh 518 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: and and number Four Brett. 519 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: Favre but the. Huddle that didn't. 520 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: Help, yeah that didn't. HELP i mean you could argue 521 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: that had that had something to do with bounty. Gate 522 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: we were, traumatized and so who do we ultimately? Blame 523 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: we blame that on a, position Guy, eric the enemy 524 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: WHO i think is In chicago now with The. Bears 525 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: is he you would know better than. ME i don't 526 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: know for, sure BUT i think that's where he might 527 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: be at this. 528 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: Point if we played THAT Nfc championship game ten ten, 529 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: times how many times would we have been in The Super? 530 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: Bowl you won it eight? Times you think SO i? 531 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: HAD i think? Nine well the BETTER i, think actually 532 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: the better. EXAMPLE i think the honest answer to that 533 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: one would be six and a. Half. 534 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah the one that's more telling is the ninety eight 535 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: nfcatitle game Here Vikings. Falcons if you played that game ten, 536 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: Times I'M i think The vikings probably win it nine 537 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: out of. 538 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: Ten, yeah to be honest with. 539 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to keep thinking it? Again does? 540 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: It it doesn't playkates you in any meaningful. Way it 541 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: certainly does. Not. Dan what happened to giving The wild 542 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: no coverage after your snarky response to fans after the 543 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: opening night five nil. 544 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: Win you're a? Fraud did you make that? VOW i 545 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: can't remember WHAT. 546 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: I said was in? 547 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: Fact? 548 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: He sensitive hockey guy, texted then why are you not 549 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: talking about the five nothing? Victory AND i, said because 550 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: it's game. 551 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: One we've now. Played what's our? Record how many games 552 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: have we? Played? Now pull up the? 553 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: Standings might as well be accurate erasment to the hockey. 554 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: COMMUNITY i don't know we can get out of. That 555 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: i'm a hockey dad, too think about. It, yeah that's 556 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: a good. Point, yeah we've we've certainly played more than 557 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: one game, now. Correct that's the point is we now 558 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: have the start of a body of. Work it's not, 559 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: complete season's not, over but one game is very different 560 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: than our current number of, games which is. Eleven, okay 561 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: so that's we're three and. Three that's so eleven games 562 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and double digits were. One i'm not gonna do the. 563 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Math no, one no, one. 564 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: Eighth of the. Season, sure let's go with that little 565 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: bit more whatever it. Is, yeah that's. 566 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: All we've already had a five game road trip and 567 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: now we're halfway through a six game homestand we have nine. 568 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: Points and we got nine points or three points out 569 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: of a wild, card so we got. That we got 570 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: once again the worst penalty kill. Ever our goal differential 571 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: is one of the. Words we laid all this out 572 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: On monday when we're going through the list of an 573 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: aptitude from the. Weekend SO i you, know, again that's 574 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: fine if you this was a specific rant having to 575 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: do with it really Is pelfrey, related it's it's, well, 576 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: NO i guess it's a different. Example pelfrey example is 577 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: you're trying too hard to take responsibility and you can't 578 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: keep taking. Responsibility it's a little like the coach who 579 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: says it's on. Me just within the last. WEEK pj 580 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: went with it AND koc went with. It, yeah and 581 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: you Lost october. Weekend it's a dangerous card because if 582 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: you play it more than, once then same thing. Happens 583 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: people go away a. Minute now you're the coach you 584 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: can't Get you might be able to get away with that. 585 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: Once this one we've granted about for decades regarding the 586 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: variation of we outplayed, them or we deserve, better or 587 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: we were the better. Team and the ultimate, test AS i, 588 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: said how many times do we hear a TEAM i 589 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: used to do. IT i was a. Jackal you after a, 590 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: game you go into the losing locker room and you 591 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: find a player who, says we deserve to win that. 592 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: Game we played. Them what do you? 593 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: Do you sprint to the winning locker room and you, say, 594 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: he by the, Way Joe, doaks they're starting, safety says 595 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: that they deserve to win the. 596 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: Game they outplayed. 597 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: It how many times do players, say, Well doaks might 598 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: have a, Point, no they got's. 599 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: Insulting we won the. Game so it's it's why it's 600 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: a waste of. 601 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: Time And i'll say a game you might believe in 602 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt if it's a consistently winning, 603 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: operation and you, go, okay well it's a, cliche but, 604 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: yeah they won a, lot and so maybe they mean, 605 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: it and maybe there's even some truth to. It it just. 606 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't it just rings hollow when you have as, many 607 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: AS i, said unrealized dreams for this franchise In. Minnesota 608 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: WHILE i mean we kidded about. IT i love. History 609 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: you know that twenty five years is a good round, 610 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Number But i'm not sure enough has happened to make 611 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: that big of a production over the twenty five. Years 612 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: you got to have more, yeah on the, RESUME i 613 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: think it's a little. Tough it's a little tough when 614 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: you have to go down that. Road and there's just 615 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: this is not ten years right since round? 616 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: Two? Correct round? 617 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Two actually two seventy two maths, alright that can't be. 618 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Right twenty, no. 619 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: Twenty. 620 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Seven we haven't played twenty seven percent of the. Season 621 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 1: that's a quarter of the. Season that can't be. Right 622 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: we haven't played that many games court of the season with, 623 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Me how many games did you? 624 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: Say we've played? Eleven eleven? 625 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: Times? 626 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: Four is forty? 627 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: Four? 628 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: Right we know, That so he's playing with. Us this 629 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: is WHAT i don't like when people question our math 630 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: when we've kind of done it. Right, yeah and then 631 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: it makes us sound even dumber for questioning that and 632 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: having to rethink, it because once we start rethinking our bad, 633 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: math that's where we're really. 634 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: Here here's the guy who gets. It god Bless john 635 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: the mail, carrier tired of being the little engine that 636 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: could freaking win some. Games that's, it, Man if you 637 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: really distill the emotion of the average hockey fan right, 638 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: now that's all they care. 639 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: About we've been waiting for this, year exactly. It and 640 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: so that emotion says it. 641 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: All that doesn't mean there can't be some nuance to to, say, 642 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: Well i'm seeing some good signs Or i'm seeing some 643 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: things maybe that have a chance to come. Together but 644 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: you're tired of being a little engine that could win 645 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: some more more puck. Games just win a few. More 646 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: actually you need to win a lot, more but you 647 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: know we start with a. Few like right, now you've 648 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: got three games left in this home. Stand win all. 649 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: THREE i don't know who we're, Playing just just win all. 650 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: Three just just try to get the bad taste out 651 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: and and and maybe give people a sense, that all, 652 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: right we are starting to figure some stuff. 653 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: Out Got pittsburgh tomorrow. Night who's this? Team got to 654 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: look at that? Logo The preds are a week From kay, 655 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: yesterday who is this? Team, well well you're looking that 656 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: up as the hockey maven that you. 657 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Are let Me, Canucks canucks On Van, Okay scott rights 658 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: Of oh this is a Lun, Scott, hey Doctor. VANNA 659 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: i was at the game last, night AND i felt 660 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: like the effort was much. BETTER i wouldn't say they 661 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: deserve to. Win the biggest problem is they've been very 662 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: shaky this. Season, oh they have been largely, shaky and 663 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: maybe some of that's injuries will find. Out but even, 664 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: THAT i, mean you, KNOW I i just don't think 665 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: we pat him on the back for a better. EFFORT 666 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: i don't, know we'll. See it's hard to. Say tony Writes, 667 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: dan AS i listened to your battle of the hockey. 668 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Community i'm thinking deeper about how why it has come to. 669 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: THIS i THINK i understand what you're digging. At it 670 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: seems like you're just asking for them to view things. 671 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: Reasonably could be like the team, itself you need to 672 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: lower your. Expectations maybe He's Maybe tony's, Right maybe it's 673 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: it's time to stop fighting it like Like lavelle, said 674 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: AND i. Haven't in, fact he text. Us both texted 675 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: us both Because i'll ADMIT i haven't read the column. 676 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: YET i read the headline that was about The bear 677 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: staff that he, Wrote oh the. 678 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Enemy, Yeah ANTOINE. Randallll that would be of. Course Glenn 679 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: mason are four o'clock, guests good, friends he just walked, 680 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: in And Al harris are all on The bear's. Step 681 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: closer got to lovel in your, column what are you 682 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: suggesting should be the new expectations of The Minnesota Wild 683 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: we're back to play all the, kids all of the 684 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: time because you ain't going anywhere. 685 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: Anyway because you can make that. 686 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: Argument the problem is whether THE gm feels comfortable enough doing, 687 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: that whether the head coach feels comfortable enough doing, that 688 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: and whether deep down fans are willing to accept. That 689 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: it's the same series of questions, frankly that The vikings 690 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: might soon be, asking if they're not. Already seaford told 691 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: us yesterday that you, know he buys the notion that 692 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tension in the whole building right 693 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: now because they know this effort to sort of thread the, 694 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: needle you, know young quarterback and keep it together and 695 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: still be a playoff team thinking of making a run ain't. 696 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: Easy and the early indication are they've they're not meeting 697 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: that high standard at. All let's take a, break get 698 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: caught up on our. Schedule don't. Forget AS i, Said 699 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: mace will join at the top of the. Hour we 700 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: may turn four to five Into hoo's your hotline. 701 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: Today stay. Tuned how, many in all, seriousness. 702 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: How old are you forty? Three you've been a sports? 703 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: Fan would you say since you were, Five i'd say forty. Years, yeah, 704 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: okay so forty Years i've been. HERE i got here 705 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: in the, fall late fall of nineteen eighty, six so 706 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: that's fourteen plus twenty, five. 707 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: So almost forty years between the two of. 708 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: US i, mean maybe we should compile a list if 709 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: we included all of the of the, games regardless of, 710 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: sport in which we outplayed the other team but didn't 711 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: get the victory at how many and would we have 712 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: how many banners do we? 713 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: Have it'd be A hall of fame. RESUME i, mean 714 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: it never. 715 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: Stops mace was known for that, too wasn't He he 716 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: was big on after the game we outplayed, Him we 717 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: didn't win the, game but we deserved a better. Fate 718 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: he did that a few. Times not sure if you 719 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: could see his. Response not happy to. That i'm just 720 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: trying to loosen him up a little. 721 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: Bit he's. 722 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: Ready trying to get him worked. Up he's ready comes. 723 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: In you don't have to tell him what time the game. 724 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: Starts mace is always. Prepared was there anything that? 725 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 2: Either? 726 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: WHY a lot of the comments from the coach were from, 727 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: yesterday But wentz spoke, today, Correct Carson. Wentz, Yeah so 728 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: is there anything That Carson wentz said today because he 729 00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: went right along the party. 730 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: Line he did right along the company. LINE i was 731 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: in on it all. 732 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: Along. 733 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: Yep they Didn't they didn't Do they didn't force me 734 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 2: to do. 735 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: ANYTHING i knew exactly WHAT i was, doing AND i 736 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: wanted to play as long AS i. COULD i was 737 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: gonna milk this as long as they possibly. 738 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: Could so. 739 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: Listening To, WinCE has your opinion or MAYBE i should 740 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: ask myself this BECAUSE i don't know if you've been 741 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: a strident on this as me tempered at all on 742 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: the basis of what the player himself, said because for, 743 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: me it doesn't change. 744 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 2: Anything it doesn't because that's WHAT i expected him to say. 745 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: EXACTLY i expected the player and the, competitor or the 746 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 3: warrior As koc called him. YESTERDAY i expected the warrior 747 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: to say. THAT i don't expect a player to, say, 748 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 3: YEAH i was a little dicey out. There they probably 749 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 3: should have grabbed. ME i don't expect the, quarterback especially 750 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: one who was waiting for an opportunity like. This of 751 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: course he's going to say. That of course he's gonna want, 752 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: that and of course he's going to say. THAT i 753 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 3: think our point at least what, well you, know you 754 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 3: do have to make a, JUDGMENT i. 755 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: Think SO i am going to be curious to find 756 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: out What mace thinks about all this as a former, 757 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: coach because he might you, know coaches tend to stick. 758 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: Together so my guess is he'll feel obligated to. Defend 759 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: you know that's on call For. 760 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: Mace that is very. Uncalled the last response was just 761 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: the one, hand that's just so. SPIRITED i, MEAN I 762 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: i just don't understand where that with that lack of. 763 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: CLASS i actually don't. Either i'm a little DO i 764 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: think that he'll say that tells you what you do to? 765 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: HIM i Texted seafort with this, question will you answer me? 766 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: THIS i should have asked him this. Yesterday so we 767 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: keep being told that he can't do any more damage to. 768 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: It it's just a matter of pain. Threshold on that, 769 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: basis can anybody explain to me why he's having? 770 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: Surgery? Now do you know WHAT i? 771 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: Mean it's, like, well because the comeback was, well he 772 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: didn't have as much time to recover between The sunday 773 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: game in The thursday night. Game, well now he would 774 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: have more to recover again as the backup again at 775 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: this point because we know what McCarthy is going to, 776 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: be the guy who's. Starting but if there's no other 777 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: damage that can be, done and it's just a matter of, 778 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: NO i just have to deal with the, pain And 779 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: i'm fine dealing with the. Pain why would he have 780 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: the surgery? Now is there not a possibility that later 781 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: in the season they might need him? 782 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: Again that's, true they couldn't need him as soon As. 783 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: Sunday, yeah it's another piece that doesn't add up with 784 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: the idea, that, hey, no he's, fine. 785 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: You, know just a little. 786 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: PAIN i, mean it may have looked a little weird 787 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: that contraption he wore on his left shoulder that looked 788 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: like it came out of the like medieval, times For god's, sake, 789 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: Right but no one's really been able to explain that 790 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: to me other than, well it's just the pain is worse. Now, 791 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: well but now we've got the extra time, off why 792 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: not continue to try to manage the, Pain which is 793 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: WHY i don't buy that it hasn't gotten, worse or 794 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: that it was already bad enough by the second half 795 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: of that game that he shouldn't have been in the damn. 796 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: Lineup. 797 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 3: Sorry, honestly the only thing that changed is that now 798 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: they have an option that they're ready to throw back out. 799 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: There, Right that's the only thing that's. 800 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 3: Changed JJ's, healthy, yes and he's ready to, play and 801 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 3: they're afraid to put your guy. On they don't for 802 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 3: not the reason that you would, expect, right, Right they're 803 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: afraid to put him out. There SO i think that's 804 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: the only thing to change is if you can gut 805 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 3: it out. Now we needed to gut it. Out and 806 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: Once JJ's, back if you want to have the, surgery 807 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 3: go do. 808 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: It and that's what he's. Doing did you read The 809 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: Alex lewis piece on. 810 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: On? 811 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: DARISANG i read pretty much. Everything Alex lewis. 812 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: Rights, absolutely HE i think raised some of the points 813 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: that we got into, yesterday but let he fleshed it 814 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: out in much more depth beyond. That AND i think 815 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: he's asking the same question we've been. Asking we've had 816 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: a lot of mixed messages About darisa and his, availability 817 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: and now we're, hearing, well it's always been a twelve month, 818 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: injury and so to a certain, extent it's almost like 819 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: The vikings are saying we should have seen it. Coming 820 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: how inconsistently he might be available through the first part 821 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: of the, season and by, inconsistent here's your snap counts thirty, 822 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: eight seventy, six forty, one sixty, nine and, nine and he, 823 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: writes injury designations don't tend to be this much of a. Puzzle, questionable, out, questionable, active, active, active. 824 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: Questionable he notes that in the, spring O'Connell consistently Praised 825 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: darrisau's commitment to the. Bit, however until this, week When 826 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 1: darisa told reporters that the initial recovery timeline was twelve, 827 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: months meaning he would need until mid to Late, october 828 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: neither he nor The vikings had offered a definitive timeline 829 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: for his. Return he notes and acknowledges in some, ways 830 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: the lack of clarity is. Understandable health isn't always. Linear 831 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: teams often treat injury designations as a competitive advantage of, sorts. 832 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 2: Etc the obtusenists began In week. 833 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: ONE a couple of days before that, game O'Connor saidarisa 834 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: had great moments throughout the, week, ADDED i know he's 835 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: getting really really, close but The vikings rule derisaw. Out 836 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: Before week two matchup with The, falcons O'Connell dismissed the 837 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: idea of any, setback described the dynamic as a very 838 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: wait for, it collaborative approach With, christian myself and our medical. 839 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: Team he debuts In week three against The. Bengals O'Connell's 840 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: celebrating his. PRESENCE i think he's now got that last 841 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: bit of confidence, needed check that, box and NOW cd 842 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: should be in a great position moving. Forward week, four 843 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: upward trajectory, Continues snaps, increase that should bode really well 844 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: for him moving, forward but it. Didn't snaps decreased in 845 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: the win over The. Browns by week allows him to 846 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: be present for the entirety of The week seven game 847 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: against The, eagles for better or. Worse but Then darisa 848 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: removed himself nine steps into The thursday night debacle In Los. 849 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: Angeles that's When darrisau said short, week tried to give 850 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: it a. Go body didn't respond HOW i wanted. To 851 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: so if that's all, true and that deep down The 852 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: vikings have known all along that this is a twelve month, 853 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: prognosis a twelve month, process, then. 854 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 2: As alec, notes what about your? 855 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: Insurance Knowing darrisa's, timetable The vikings Chosen march to Sign 856 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: justin's school when pro football focus is dinged for a 857 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: league high six sacks is backup. Depth Walter rowle's twenty 858 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty four to fifth round pick also is not, ascended 859 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: and their struggles have complicated the team's desire to put 860 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: young QUARTERBACK jj McCarthy and the cushion spotted hope to 861 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: create this. Season to, me what he's saying there, is, 862 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: well if that's really what you, know then you have 863 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: to make better insurance a. Priority now you're not going 864 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: to get an all pro backup. Tackle we understand. That 865 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: but if if The vikings all along believed What dar 866 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: saw is now saying to, us, didn't they need to 867 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: have a better PLAN b until they can comfortably reach 868 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: the point to say he's. Back he's back every you, 869 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: know every snap that, matters every game the rest of the. 870 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: Season and it's what we talked. 871 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: About they've done a poor job of managing, expectations messaging 872 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: and messaging on you, know how he's going to be 873 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: available because even the MESSAGING i just quoted seem to 874 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: indicate upward path and we're it's all clear now and 875 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: it's clearly has that has clearly not been the case 876 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: the way this thing has has played, out and SO 877 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: i again think the player has been done in disservice 878 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: because among fans there's, Grumbling, yeah what's with? Him you, 879 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: know he's just how wimpy is? That and he doesn't 880 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: have to be wimpy at? All this might just be 881 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: part of the. Process it's a significant. Injury but because 882 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: the Vice kings didn't give us any warnings on, that 883 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: even just ideas of, hey this thing's going to come and, 884 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: go we don't know if it's going to go straight 885 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: up in terms of his playing. Time it depends on 886 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: a lot of factors. HERE i think they would have 887 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: been better off opening that door without being Too you 888 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: don't have to be too negative about, it BUT i 889 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: didn't think they did a particularly good job of. That all, 890 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: right let's do. This we'll prepare For mace in fact 891 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: you have if you have questions or comments for, him 892 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: hit the bratch On brian K fa and text. Line 893 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: we'll get his view as a former coach regarding decision 894 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: making as it pertains to. Players, never, WELL i shouldn't say, 895 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: never because darrisaw wanted, out but you, know players rarely 896 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position are going to go leave on their. 897 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: Own they know that the time's too. Valuable they don't 898 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: know when they're going to get a chance to get 899 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: back in. There what responsibility does a coach have and 900 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: what factors should the game situation itself beat as took 901 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: place In Los, Angeles, Vikings, chargers that and. More will 902 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: Preview Gophers Michigan. State we will Review Gophers iowa as, 903 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: well and there might be a couple Of indiana football 904 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: questions in. There