1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: Here she is. 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: She works for ESPN dot com, she's living in La. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: She's covering the Rams. But I know where her heart 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: truly lies. 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Naughty naughty cow, naughty cow. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: I'd be with our Seattle Mariners as her heart was breaking, 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: just like our was. 8 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Ours was. 9 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: And during Game seven of the Alcs, our longtime friend, 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: the rally Fry girl, Lindsey Theory with us on the 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: radio show, Hi, how are you well? 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: After that message, the Mariners all of a borderline tearing 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: up again. It's the thought of it. I'd put it 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: out of my mind. I mean, I never thought weidered 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: crying in front of my three year old over a 16 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: baseball game, but that's where we were that night. 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, brutal. I mean, it's funny, isn't it. 18 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Like you think you're kind of getting through it, you 19 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: forget about it, and then somebody like me, some jackass 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: like me, reminds you about that game. 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 22 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I was happy to see the Dodgers take 23 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: care of Toronto. You're down there in La. Tell us 24 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: about that about how hard you think you're kind of 25 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: rooting for the Dodgers just because you can't stomach the 26 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Blue Jays winning. 27 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'm married to a Dodgers fan. My 28 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: kids like, it's perfect world. They got an American League 29 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: team in a National League teams like I had to 30 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: get on board. That was pretty pretty exciting, but like, 31 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: deep down I did it. I mean, the Marrior thing 32 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: is just still killing me. 33 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 4: What would have been the family dynamic though? Had the 34 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: Mariners one Game seven and rumorus Dodgers in the World Series, 35 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: it would. 36 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: Have been like the best and craziest thing. Like we 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: would have gone to Dodgers Stadium, we would have gone 38 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: to tea mobile. I would have somehow tried to like 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: hold down my actual daytime job. That was going to 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: be incredible. We really put the cart before the horse 41 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: on that one though we really thought it was happening. 42 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Well, you kind of have to write. You kind of 43 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: got to be prepared. 44 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't just wait until it happens and 45 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: then go book tickets and then go get the hotel. 46 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't the Mariner's rough two games, two bands coming 47 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: out of Toronto and I look at my husband, Oh 48 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: my god, we are going to the World Here's like 49 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: my dad who worked forty some odd seasons at the stadium, 50 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: like we are taking him to a World Series and 51 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: my husband's like, oh my god, you are You just 52 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: can't get out of yourself like this, Yeah, yeah, here 53 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: we are, here, we are well. 54 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: I had a flight and hotel all set for Game 55 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: seven in La Lindsey because that was the same day 56 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: as the Husky Bye. It would have been perfect, It 57 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: would have worked out perfectly for us. 58 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: Here in Seattle. 59 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: But hey, maybe in the next one hundred years it'll happen. 60 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: So hang in there. But let's talk about this game 61 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: on Sunday with the Rams and Seahawks. And before we 62 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: talk about the matchup, just give us a take on 63 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: this Rams team. I mean, you remember, after they won 64 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: the title a couple of years ago, a lot of 65 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: people had to take that, Well, these guys just sold 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: their soul. They're gonna suck for the next five or 67 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: six years. And they had the one down year right 68 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: immediately after the championship. 69 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: And now they've bounced right back. How have they done it? 70 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they just they find a way to 71 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: get things done. Like right, it was s them picks 72 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: as they traded everything away, they get the stars they needed, 73 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: and then they built again quickly through the draft, right, 74 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: they trade away guys where it's like, Okay, you're at 75 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: the end of your life span, so let's get some 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: picks back for you. And so they have some really 77 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: young talent, especially on that defensive line. You look at 78 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: care Adverse and Brandon Fisk, like they have found some 79 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: really great guys in the draft. And then obviously Matthew 80 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: Stafford is thirty seven years old and is still playing 81 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: really great football. So they were down for a year 82 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: and then they came back and last year they were 83 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: one play away for playing for an NFC title. So 84 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: I mean they're back, right, and this is going to 85 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: be a really really fun game on Sunday. 86 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: Well, Staffords had a great year, but in particular since 87 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: you know, we hear all about this three tight end 88 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: offense that's being used forty percent of the time now, 89 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: and Stafford's got eight touchdowns out of it in the 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: last three games. He's got what thirteen touchdowns and no 91 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: interceptions in the last three football games. So what is 92 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: this three tight end offense at about? 93 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: All about? 94 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: You would think it's a run set, but it's really not, right, right, 95 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: It's more. 96 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: Impressive than that. Twenty touchdowns and no interception in the 97 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: last six games. And it's been really interesting to see 98 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: the evolution of this offense. I mean, you guys might 99 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: remember a few years ago when Sean McDavis first on 100 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: the scene, actually nine years ago. Now, you know, he 101 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: ran only eleven personnel and it was like the same 102 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: eleven guys on the field all the time. And now 103 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: this team is loaded with tight ends in and out 104 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: and Matthew Staffords still passing the ball at crazy. It's just, 105 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: you know, it's a very balanced offense. They have Kyrienn 106 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: Williams and Blake Korn. We're trading series out of the backfield, 107 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: but it's the tight ends who really made a difference. 108 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: They keep loading up. They brought more guys in so 109 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: they have the looks on the practice squad. So it's 110 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 3: a really different version of a Shawn McVay offense. 111 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: Anything this season, Well, I got to be honest with you, 112 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: Lindsay Lindsay Theory. ESPN dot com covers the Rams with 113 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: us noted Mariner fan down there, the biggest Mariner fan 114 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: at ESPN and not even close at ESPN, is with 115 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: us on the radio show. And I remember when Poka 116 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: Nakua Dick you do too? Was that you Dub and 117 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: Lindsey you probably remember Puka playing at Washington also. And 118 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: then one thing I really appreciated with Puka when he 119 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: left to go to Byu Is he left you, Dub 120 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: and said, I'm gonna go home, and then he actually 121 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: went home to go play with his brother in Provo. 122 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: So good for him. And then he blows up as 123 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: a rookie. 124 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: You're thinking, Okay, maybe some of this is a flash 125 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: in the pan. Not now, it's not a flash in 126 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: the pan at all. This guy is one of the 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: best receivers in the NFL. How surprised are you by 128 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: Puka's sustained success and what has made you think this 129 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: guy so impossible to cover down there? 130 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think what's really interesting, and I think your 131 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: players in Seattle, the Seahawks, they were talking about the 132 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: effects of this this week is the Cooper Cup effect 133 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: and a lot of those guys up they were saying, like, 134 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: he can't be overstated what he meant. And for puquin 135 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: A Coo, he came into the Rams and he had 136 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup to learn from, and like Cooper Cup is 137 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: just the absolute pro when it comes to his preparation. 138 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: That not a detail that he pays to ever seeing 139 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: that he does. And so you see that with Jackson 140 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: Smith and Jigball. Like you know, Cooper Cup came in 141 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's the reason why k is 142 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: it's so good, but there's certainly an element to what 143 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: he brings as a pro and Poopa and Akua is 144 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: someone who learned from that. And obviously there comes a 145 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: lot of talent, you know, so given talent, a hard 146 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: work talent that Poopa has, but it's a lot about 147 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: how he learned to be a pro in that first 148 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: season and that's what's really allowed him to kind of 149 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: take off now on his own. And him and Matthew Stafford, 150 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he just put an invisible string between the 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: two because they are on the same page no matter 152 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: what they're doing out there on the field, and it's 153 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 3: so impressive to watch. 154 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 4: So with Cup out and DeVante Adams in, is McVeigh 155 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: just using Davante the same way he used Cooper Cup. 156 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: No, it's it's a bit different. Like Cooper moved all 157 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: over the field, Davante not so much. I mean, Davante 158 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: has been become a huge red zone target for them. 159 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: The exact stats a little bit over my head right now, 160 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: but something like seven for a whiley, it's seven catches 161 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: in the red zone, all them turned into touchdowns. Who 162 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: He's been a really big target for them really when 163 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: they get in the red area. So it's been a 164 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: bit different than Cooper Cup. But he has nevertheless come 165 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: on really strong for them, especially over the last few weeks. 166 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: You can tell that him and Matthew Stafford really have 167 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: got on the same page. 168 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: Well, Lindsay Theory again. 169 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: ESPN dot Com is with us on the radio show, 170 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: and Lindsey, I know a lot of folks in Seattle 171 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: are kind of really curious to see what this Seahawk 172 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: offense does against this Rams defense and vice versa. Right 173 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: with the Seahawk defense against the Rams offense feels like 174 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: maybe the first real big time test for them. But 175 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: what about in La, I mean, does this kind of 176 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: look like a team that's maybe playing a bit over 177 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: their heads or are people down there kind of waiting 178 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: to see what happens on Sunday at one o'clock. 179 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: No, I think people are really excited to see what 180 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: happens on Sunday at one o'clock. I think the expectations 181 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: for the Rams. It's funny, right. We know on the 182 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: West coast, these teams often get overlooked early in the 183 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: season for the flashy storylines out on the East Coast. 184 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: But the Rams really right now look like a team 185 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: who could very much contend for an NFC title. And 186 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: they look like that on offense, they look like that 187 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: on defense. But that being said, it's so funny. Often 188 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: guys will not talk about, like what a big matchup 189 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: these games are. But I was talking to a couple 190 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: of players in the Rams locker room this week and 191 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: they're like, no, this is huge, Like this, this is 192 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: actually one of those games you kind of saw it 193 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: on the calendar and thought, Okay, that'll be good. But 194 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: now both teams seven and two, and really, when you 195 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: look at it, like their offenses their offensive outputs so similar, 196 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: their defensive outputs are so similar. So this is a 197 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: really really big matchup, not only for the NFC West, 198 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: but for the conference as a whole. 199 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: I think the perception outside of LA is that nobody 200 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: really cares about the Rams in LA, especially when the 201 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: Dodgers have just come winning a championship and you got 202 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: the Lakers playing well, are the fans fired up for 203 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: this team? What kind of crowd are we going to get? Yeah? 204 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: So, look, the Rams are certainly building a fan base 205 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: out here, but it is not as you know, feverish 206 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: as you might get in Seattle. I would expect Sunday 207 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: to be very loud when the Rams are on offense. 208 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: I would expected the Seahawks fans, I mean, are probably 209 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: traveling down here thinking it's gonna be sunny. 210 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: And it's not. 211 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: It's raining for the five days, but fans travel well 212 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: to Sofi Stadium. You know. Some of the Rams players 213 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 3: often joke that they're quite accustomed at home to happen 214 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: to use a silent count, so they're well practiced at that. 215 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: The fan base down here is growing. The Rams have 216 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: known for quite some time now that it's just going 217 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: to take time. It's like a whole new generation of 218 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: young people that have to come up as Rams fans. 219 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: You know, I happen to be around a lot of 220 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: kids these days all the time, and there are like 221 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: young Rams fans. Obviously, the older people like myself, we all, 222 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: you know, came from somewhere else and have other teams 223 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: that we grew up with. But that there is a 224 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: growing fan base for the Rams. 225 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: This is a Lindsay, This is a Rams football team 226 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: that is fifth in the NFL in scoring offense, right, 227 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: and they're number two in the NFL and scoring defense. 228 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: So we talk about Matt Stafford being the MVP, and 229 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Puka and Davonte and all those guys. Is this a 230 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: better offensive or a better defensive team in your mind 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: right now? 232 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: Oh, that's such a hard question. I knew you were 233 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 3: going to put me on the spot. I hate to 234 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: say it's like equal, but it's about equal. Like I 235 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: just don't that the defense is absolutely out there doing 236 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: his job. But I mean the offense they just scored 237 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: six touchdowns against the forty nine ers, And I know 238 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are banged up as anybody in 239 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: the league, but they just made it look so easy 240 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: and effortless. And it's and no matter who's out for 241 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, it's that's always a solid defense. 242 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: So I don't really think there's a way to choose 243 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: one side or the other. I mean, maybe I would 244 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: just go with the offense a little. With the edge, 245 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: the Rams secondary sometimes has been susceptible, which I know 246 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: when you look at the matchup this week. In the 247 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: amount of explosive that Sam Darnold's managed, you, I mean 248 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: you guys. I think Seahawks are leading the league in 249 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 3: explosive if not second, just behind Matthew Stafford. So I 250 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: think that will be really really interesting to see how 251 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: the Rams secondary shares. Also, because you know, all these 252 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: defensive friends have had a really hard time getting to 253 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold. 254 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: I think it's a similar situation with the Seahawks. I mean, 255 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: the Seahawks offense is actually ranked higher than the Seahawks defense, 256 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: But I think most Hawk fans would say we're a 257 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: better defensive team than we are offensive teams. 258 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: So what kind of a game. 259 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: Do you think we're gonna see? Is this gonna be 260 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: we just had a handicapper, come on, so there's gonna 261 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: be like thirty to twenty seven. I so often I 262 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: see more twenty three to twenty than we do thirty 263 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: to twenty seven. What do you think? 264 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: I hope it's high scoring. I mean, I love the offense. 265 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, here are asking the only 266 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: questions I don't. 267 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: Know answers to, you know what, I expect way more 268 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: from a former rally fried girl, I'll be honest with you, 269 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: way more I. 270 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: Handed out prize for free as an intern. What do 271 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: you really expect? I mean, I didn't even ask for 272 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: minimum wage. Would have been kind of rich. That's but anyway, 273 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: that's an in the story. But I mean, I think 274 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be. I think high scoring. 275 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: I think high scoring. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with 276 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks and the receivers. Let's let's call it a 277 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: high scoring one just for fun. 278 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: I will say this, when you expect a low scoring game, 279 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of more often than not you 280 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 2: get what you don't expect. And there's surprises in the 281 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: National Football League. But Lindsey, before you go, you mentioned 282 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: you mentioned Sean McVay and he doesn't even turn forty 283 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: until January and he's already been the coach of the 284 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: Rams for nine years. How how close was he a 285 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: couple of years ago to actually quitting and going to 286 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: work for TV And now that he's winning again, is 287 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: he totally now invested, like bought into this thing. We're 288 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: not going to hear any rumors or reports that McVeigh 289 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: is considering quitting and getting out. Is are those days 290 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: over now for him. 291 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was it was very very close. 292 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: It was it was close to him leaving a couple 293 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: of years ago, years ago. It's really interesting you ask 294 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: this because it's been something I've thought about, Like, he's 295 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: not even forty, this is his ninth season. Next year 296 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: is going to his tenh season. Like it's just unheard 297 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: of for a coach to be able to stay in 298 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: one place for so long, let alone, I mean, what 299 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: he'd stay here for his entire career with what he's 300 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: done here. I don't know. I don't think. I don't 301 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 3: think we're going to hear anything about like, oh, Sean's 302 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: getting it's to retire anything. But somewhere down the line, 303 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: I don't think it's after this season. I don't think 304 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: it's after next him. But somewhere down the line, I 305 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: would imagine he'll maybe want to like just take a 306 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: breakpar a minute and maybe go do some TV and 307 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: then get back into it, because I don't know, I 308 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: just can't see him doing this for like thirty straight 309 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: years and forty straight years and he could, right Pete 310 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: Carroll's seventy seventy five, seventy six, Yeah, like still doing this, 311 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: So at some point he's gonna have to take a 312 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: little break. 313 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: Right, you'd think so, you'd think so. All right, Lindsay, 314 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: great stuff. We appreciate this once again, the biggest marin 315 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: or fanityesp carrying the flag for that franchise down there 316 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: in the halls of ESPN dot com on television covering 317 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: the Rams. Great stuff. Tell the hobby, I said alone 318 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: by the way too, okay, and. 319 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: Please turn on Sunday NFL Countdown on Sunday morning seven 320 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: am to ten am Eastern is at the mess on 321 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: the east. 322 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 323 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see you guys there on Sunday NFL Countent 324 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: and I will tell my husband hello, and we'll see 325 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: you in Maui in February. 326 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: There's not a chance I'm up at seven am on Sunday, 327 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: by the way, and if I am them on the 328 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: golf course, I'll be honest with you, all right. 329 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: But maybe I'll tape the shell. I'll record it there 330 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: you go. 331 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, see Lindsay theory ESPN with us on the 332 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: radio show and Dick is Lindsay was talking there. I 333 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: was just doing a little bit of math here and 334 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: as far as the offenses and who they faced. 335 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: I know you've mentioned this couple of times. 336 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams are you know, look, it's it's 337 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: still the point of the year where things are kind 338 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: of evolving, still a little bit, you know, as far 339 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: as who's got the great units and blah blah blah. 340 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: But you're getting ou on the fourteenth November much more 341 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: of a picture for who's good and who's not versus 342 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: the middle of September. I mean, clearly, it's been two 343 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: and a half months of data. But the Rams have 344 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: faced one, two, three, four top half defenses in the NFL, 345 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: and the Hawks have only faced two of them. And 346 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: that's San Francisco and Houston. Points per game, that's points 347 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: per game. 348 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: That's good. 349 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: I know how much you hate yards. I would never 350 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: offend you by bringing yards. Okay, that's points per game, 351 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: but again, points is always in context of the way 352 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: the game goes defensive score. Yes, so they faced two 353 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: top half defenses, I'm sorry, three top half defenses San Francisco, 354 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and the Texans. The Niner game was the 355 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: first game of the year with Sam Darland quarterback. Maybe 356 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: you throw it out, I don't know. They scored thirteen points. 357 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay game. They lost, but they scored thirty five. 358 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Texan game was the number one scoring defense in the NFL, 359 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: and they scored twenty seven on Monday nights. So if 360 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: you look at the last two games they played against 361 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: top half defenses, I think they've done fairly well against 362 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: the Texans. 363 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Was there a defensive score in the Texan game as 364 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: well for the Hawks? 365 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: Why do I think that there was? 366 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be honest with you, My memory of 367 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: that game is in the gutter because that was Game 368 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: seven of the ALCS, so I don't remember a lot 369 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: about that. I didn't even get into the stadium until 370 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: the second quarter. There was not a defensive touchdown in 371 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: that game. Zach Charbonney had two and Jay sid had won. 372 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: But the point is they faced three of them. Two 373 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: of the three they did. Okay, the Rams have faced 374 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: four of them, actually five of them, because they played 375 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: the Rams or the Niners twice and they scored fourteen 376 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: against the Texans, twenty six against Philly, twenty seven against 377 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: the Colts, and then forty two and twenty three against 378 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: San Francisco. So you could argue the Rams have had 379 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: maybe a little more exposure to a top half defense 380 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: than the Hawks have, and both teams have done okay, 381 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: if not pretty good. 382 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: I just have more faith in these defenses in the 383 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: red zone than I do in these offenses. Put in 384 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 4: a lot of points on the board. And look at 385 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: the numbers. I mean red zone scoring presenters. These are 386 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: touchdowns only. Seattle is seventh in the league. The Rams 387 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: are second in the league in making sure the other 388 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 4: team when they get into the red zone they are 389 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 4: kicking field goals and not scoring touchdowns. I think that's 390 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: what we're gonna see. I think we're gonna see multiple 391 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: field goals for each team and very few touchdowns for 392 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 4: each team. 393 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: Well, Humellan will tell us if we're nuts or not 394 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: at five o'clock tonight. We'll talk to you that. 395 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 5: Now back to football frive Age sponsored cry Tito's Hamade 396 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 5: Vodka on your home for the NFL Sports Radio ninety 397 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 5: three point three r FL. 398 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, I might be dead wrong on this, by 399 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: the way, Okay, I got a feeling, Dick that there 400 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: might not be a stadium in the NFL where ticket 401 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: prices are more impacted by the opposing fan based in 402 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: SOFI stadium, and that's for both Chargers and Rams. 403 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: By I can only think of one other, which would 404 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: be one Vegas. 405 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: There you go, yep, good one, yep, yep, yep. 406 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 2: Well, tickets for the Tampa Bay ram game on Sunday 407 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: night football in ex actually next Sunday night, and it's 408 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: also the Aaron Donald celebration game. Are they retiring his number? 409 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: Is that what's going on? I assume that it might 410 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: be possible ninety eight bucks to get in the door. 411 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: This game Sunday is one hundred and sixty four dollars. 412 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: So I just I just wonder how much that's influenced 413 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: by Seahawk fans and just opposing fans in general, because 414 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: the best example of that we saw is when the 415 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: Niners played the Rams in the NFC Championship game and 416 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: it was a home game for San Francisco. Remember that, Yes, 417 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: it was almost embarrassing when the Packers came to town. 418 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: Was it last year or two years ago when Packers 419 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: came to town? Yeah, it's two years ago. I think 420 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: yeah too, because last year was Philadelphia and the Commanders, 421 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: right right, Yeah? And I just think, I don't know, Dick, 422 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: I think that the ticket prices at Sofi Stadium are 423 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: greatly influenced by the opposing fan base. You heard lindsay 424 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: theory of there saying that she's expecting when the Rams 425 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: have the ball on offense, it's going to be loud 426 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: as hell in the stadium on Sunday. 427 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Are we back? 428 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: Are we back to dominating opposing stadiums the way we 429 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: used to? 430 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 4: I don't think it ever left. 431 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 432 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: Maybe, honestly, Like, look at all those games in Jacksonville 433 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: the last three years that we've played in Carolina, we've 434 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: played I mean you Arizona for sure, yes, I mean 435 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: you heard Seahawks Seahawks chant in the second quarter of 436 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: the last road game in Washington. That was Washington. I 437 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: just think the Seahawks have become because they've been for 438 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 4: the most part, good, if not great, over most of 439 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: the last generation. Really, I mean we're going, oh, we're 440 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 4: going back to the beginning twenty years, going back to 441 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: ninety nine. That's twenty six years. It's a full generation 442 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 4: where the Seahawks have been. Can we say, one of 443 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: the top ten teams in the NFL? All that generation 444 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: probably what's going to lead to a whole new generation 445 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: of fans raiding other team stadium. 446 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: Compare the Seahawks from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand five. 447 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: So if we are twenty twenty five, so if we 448 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: just include, if we include this year, and if we 449 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: assume that they're going to the playoffs, by the way, 450 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: which is not a lock, but let's just assume for 451 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: the sake of argument, shiggles and gets that they are 452 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: going to the playoffs this year. That is twenty seven 453 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: years of football right going back to nineteen ninety nine, 454 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: and they would have one, two, three, four, five, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen, 455 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: seventeen playoff appearances in twenty seven years. In the previous 456 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: fifteen I'm sorry, previous twenty three years, they had four 457 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: of them. So how many in twenty seven did I say? 458 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Fifteen in twenty seven versus four in the last twenty three. 459 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, if you were born in the 460 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties and you were ten years old in 461 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: two thousand, when you really kind of got into your fandom, 462 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: I guess, or even born in the late eighties or 463 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: mid nineties, whatever, this is all you've known. 464 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: If you're a pretty decent franchise exactly, And I just 465 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: I just looked it up since two thousand, which is 466 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 4: basically the second year of home grin. There's only seven 467 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: teams with more wins than the Seahawks, right, and all 468 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 4: of these almost all of these seven teams travel like 469 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: the Seahawks, Steelers, Packers, Eagles, Chiefs, Patriots. I mean almost 470 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: all those teams travel like the Seahawks do. 471 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're talking seventeen playoff appearances in twenty seven 472 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: years versus four and twenty three. That's what it would 473 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: be if they make the playoffs again this year, which 474 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: I think they're going to. Seventeen and twenty seven four 475 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: in twenty three. That is really a pretty five years 476 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: of age. It's all, you know, it's all all you know, 477 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: it's home grown Carrol. And now, yeah, well that's why 478 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: what had what happened between twenty twenty one in twenty 479 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: twenty four is what got Pete Carroll fired. 480 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 5: That. 481 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know, Pete Carroll basically just went 482 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: on a run where he went seven and ten, nine, 483 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: nine and eight, missed the playoffs two out of three years, 484 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: and that was enough to get the guy fired. To 485 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: miss the playoffs two out of three years was enough 486 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: to get. 487 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: The guy left. 488 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: The mayor, the manager went five hundred. Of course, of 489 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: three years, he'd get a ten year extension. He'd be 490 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: in their Hall of Fame. There's no question about that. 491 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think this is again You're gonna see 492 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: a lot of Seahawks fans in the stands on Sunday, 493 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: and I do think, like we said earlier, this is 494 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: the kind of game where Mike McDonald can really show 495 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: again that the Seahawks made the right call in hiring him. 496 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who the finalists were for that 497 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: job a couple of years ago. I know Ben Johnson's 498 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: name was on the list, Bobby Sloweck's name was on 499 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: the list, and then Ben Johnson decided I want to 500 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: stay in Detroit and go back and stay with. 501 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: The Lions for one more year. 502 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: We would have had an offensive minded guy, right versus 503 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: a defensive minded guy in Seattle. And I mean, frankly, 504 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad that Ben Johnson turned down the job. I'm 505 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: glad Ben Johnson decided to go back to the Lions. 506 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 2: I think Ben Johnson's good code. I'd rather just have 507 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald when. 508 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: You I think he's number one, the only guy we 509 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: wanted ahead of Ben Jonson. 510 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, right, Harbaugh, that's right, and both of us 511 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: did correct. Yes, And let's. 512 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: Face it, you could argue that Mike McDonald has had 513 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: better success in Seattle than Jim Harbaugh's had in LA 514 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 4: so far. I mean, the Charge have been good, right, 515 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 4: but they haven't been great, and they're not as good 516 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: as the Seahawks are this. 517 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Year ten and seven and seven and two. Yeah. 518 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: Correct, So he's twenty seven and nine in his two 519 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: years in Seattle, teen and nine, seventeen and nine. Sorry 520 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: when I say twenty seven, seventeen and nine, and Jim 521 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: Harbaugh's eighteen and nine. So they're right there, pretty similar, right, 522 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: no doubt. The difference is Harbaugh made the postseason a 523 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: year ago and Mike McDonald did not. But you know what, 524 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh should have made the playoffs last year. He 525 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: had justin Herbert McDonald had Geno's. He should have made 526 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Right, So I think they've got a winner. 527 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: I think they got a big time guy in McDonald. 528 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: You know, I was more excited last camp for the 529 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: scheme and for McDonald to be the star, and I 530 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: still feel that way, man. I mean, I think the 531 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: Hawks have I think all of us agree. They got 532 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: some really good players, they got some good names on 533 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: their defense and on their football team. But I still 534 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: feel like the star of the show. I remember telling 535 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: you last year in training camp that I was more 536 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: excited for the coaches than I was the players. And 537 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: that was Ryan Grubb obviously part of it. And it 538 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: was also McDonald's defense. And I still feel that way. 539 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: On the defensive side of the ball. I think the 540 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: biggest star this team has to offer is the head coach. 541 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: Well, let's just look at first and second team All 542 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: AP All NFL team right now. You would have one 543 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: first teamer that's right in jail, right. How many second 544 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: teamers would you have? I don't know, man, I don't 545 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: think you have any. Yeah, you've got a lot of 546 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: Pro bowlers, maybe is Abel who knows. 547 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. 548 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: You've got a lot of people on both sides of 549 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: the ball that could be considered for the Pro Bowl. 550 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: But there's a big difference between Pro Bowl and first 551 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: and second team All Pro. 552 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the Pro Ball is a joke. 553 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: I mean when the minute Tyler Huntley made the Pro Bowl, 554 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I mean, get out of here. Dude, 555 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: the guy played like he played in four games and 556 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: he made the freaking Pro Bowl. I mean, somebody's got 557 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: to go out there and throw a football through a 558 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, a grape sized hole from five hundred feet away, 559 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: So they chose that guy. 560 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: To do it. 561 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna break humil enjoins at five