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Speaker 1: Mister New York Mark Simon se wo r Well. Howie

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Speaker 1: Carr is one of the very best talk show hosts

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Speaker 1: in the world. You can hear him on iHeart. Also

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Speaker 1: a best selling author. You'd love his books and his

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Speaker 1: Amazon and you can get everything at Howie carshow dot com.

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Speaker 1: His website, Howie carshow dot com. Howie Carr, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: Very well? Better than the the Ayatola, the new Iyatola.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's the son of the old Isola. But

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Speaker 1: would you take that job? How long? How long? Would

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Speaker 1: how long do you think your life insurance company would

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Speaker 1: let you keep the policy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? There used to be an old joke about people

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Speaker 2: who were on what they call the hit parade, an

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Speaker 2: organized scribe you wouldn't want to be standing next year,

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Speaker 2: And I think this guy falls into that category. You know,

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Speaker 2: don't be standing too close to the new Iatola. And

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Speaker 2: now it turns out apparently his father, the ruthless, bloodthirsty dictator,

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Speaker 2: he had written him out of the will. Oh I mean,

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Speaker 2: and you know the thing I don't understand, Mark, is

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Speaker 2: I thought they overthrew the show for one reason. In

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine because they didn't want a hereditary monarchy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and now it seems like all these years later, they've

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Speaker 2: gone back to a hereditary succession.

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, but that's this assembly of experts. Apparently I

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Speaker 1: told himself did not want to have his son take over, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, But you know who else was going to take over?

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Speaker 2: And I guess these hardliners, I mean I don't understand

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Speaker 2: that why they would bomb. You know, they're you know,

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Speaker 2: people who were at least neutral and maybe like kind

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Speaker 2: of secretly rooting for him, you know, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: not even Hitler. Hitler didn't send skiing Nazis into Switzerland

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Speaker 2: during World War Two, you know, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: this is just this crazy, isn't it. I Mean, it's

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Speaker 2: like they're proving the point that they're there, they're lunatics

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Speaker 2: and they can't be trusted with these these munitions. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's they're they're proving, they're proving Trump and and uh,

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Speaker 2: you know who's point, aren't they?

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Speaker 1: And maybe they just hate this I told his kid,

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Speaker 1: and they want to get rid of them, so they

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Speaker 1: figure the quick's way to get rid of him is

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Speaker 1: making them a new leader, and it'll be going on

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Speaker 1: a few days.

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Speaker 2: Well, I heard yesterday that you know that there were

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Speaker 2: reports that maybe he had lost a leg in the

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Speaker 2: in the attack that killed his parents and his wife

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Speaker 2: and everybody else. And you know, so then so then

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Speaker 2: of course the joke flooded in on my show. You know,

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Speaker 2: but he didn't have a leg to stand on. And

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Speaker 2: you know, he's he's busier than a than a one hour,

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Speaker 2: than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, all the old jokes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now this I told his son, in that bombing

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Speaker 1: of those leaders, he lost his wife, his son, his mother,

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Speaker 1: So I would imagine he's not too America friendly. This

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Speaker 1: is a new eye, told his son.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's he gonna do? I mean, the missile

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Speaker 2: lunches are down ninety two, you know, and every every

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Speaker 2: day they go down another I mean they I mean,

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Speaker 2: they'll still keep going after them, because you know what,

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Speaker 2: all it takes is one missile to kill a bunch

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Speaker 2: of people, but in any of these countries. But you know,

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Speaker 2: they're they're it's becoming negligible now, I mean, what are

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Speaker 2: what are they going to do? I mean, but I

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Speaker 2: Mark tell me, how does it how does it end?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they if they just want to keep

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Speaker 2: if they say they're not going to surrender, do you

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Speaker 2: do you just keep bombing them and bombing them and

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Speaker 2: bombing them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's try that for another week. See what happens.

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Speaker 2: I know, just I mean, I know it's this is

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Speaker 2: this is still very early days, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we want to cease fire. We want to see this

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Speaker 2: is like it's if there were if this were Pearl Harbor.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's last Saturday. It's not even Christmas nineteen

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Speaker 2: Let's stop the war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they call it the Endless War. It's now day eleven,

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Speaker 1: Endless War. So hey, Howie Carr, you wrote the best

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Speaker 1: books ever written about the Kennedys. You are the best

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Speaker 1: Kennedy expert. You know, this new JFK Junior mini series

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Speaker 1: is like the hottest thing now streaming. Everybody's talking about this,

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Speaker 1: and the family's all upset. They're exploiting the Kennedy don't

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Speaker 1: you think though. It's the first time that Kennedy's ever

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Speaker 1: got any positive publicity in the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. I mean sometimes the stories are sad,

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Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, there's never there's never anything popular. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's positive. I mean look the the son, the son,

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Speaker 2: the heir apparent lost to asynate primary in Massachusetts to

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Speaker 2: Ed Markey, and I mean your yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how familiar national audience is with Ed Markey,

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Speaker 2: but I mean he's he's really on the Biden spectrum. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially when it comes to walking, he's he's

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Speaker 2: doddering around. And a Kennedy named Joe Kennedy the second

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Speaker 2: couldn't beat him in massac quashed there. And and then

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Speaker 2: this this kid that's running for a Nadler seat. I

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Speaker 2: mean that guy is he's certifiable, isn't he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Kennedy? Oh no, he could win. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: a Democratic district. If you get the nomination, you win.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, but I mean he can't get the

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Speaker 2: can he get the nomination? As crazy as he is?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey, look look we got elected mayor.

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Speaker 1: Look who's our governor?

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Speaker 2: I know, you know you know what he now that

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Speaker 2: I think about it. He kind of looks like one

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Speaker 2: of those bomb throwers at Gracie Bean, doesn't he Have

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Speaker 2: you ever seen him in the bomb thrower in the same.

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Speaker 1: He is completely nuts. So what is it with this

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Speaker 1: Kennedy family. You know, every family has a black sheep,

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Speaker 1: Every family has a tragedy somewhere or a This family

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Speaker 1: has tragedies everywhere, nuts everywhere in the family. Even JFK Jr.

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Speaker 1: The one that we really love, the one good life

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Speaker 1: ends in tragedy. What is it with the Kennedy's and

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Speaker 1: all the tragedy.

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Speaker 2: I don't well. I think part of it is just

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Speaker 2: the you know they they take chances. I mean like

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Speaker 2: the you know, the the oldest son, Joe Kennedy, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he finished up his time in World War Two, had

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Speaker 2: flown all these missions and he just decided to go

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Speaker 2: back out for another one and and got blown up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they they all do. His kick the woman

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Speaker 2: who was killed in the plane plane crash. Look at

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Speaker 2: how many of them have died in plane crashes, including uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, some of Epple Eppele's ca call Kennedy's uh

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Speaker 2: another thing too, I mean, this is just my aunt.

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Speaker 2: My aunt used to say that Irish people who sold

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Speaker 2: booze to other Irish people always ended up, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting the curse. And uh you know, I hadn't thought

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Speaker 2: of that for years and years. But maybe Aunt Kay

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Speaker 2: I mean Joe Kennedy, uh well, and his father, Patrick Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: they were both they were both big booze sellers to

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Speaker 2: their own people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that story about Joe Kennedy a million years ago.

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Speaker 1: He was on that ship in first class and there

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Speaker 1: was an Orthodox rabbi with his people there, and Kennedy

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Speaker 1: was so vicious, so rude to him, and that the

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Speaker 1: rabbi put a curse on him. You remember, really, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an old it's it was always said that that

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Speaker 1: was where it all started, the tragedy.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, have you ever read that book,

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Speaker 2: mister s about Frank Sinatra.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's one of the best books ever written. George Jacobs.

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Speaker 2: It is George ja that is such a great book.

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Speaker 2: But I always remember what he said, you know, he said,

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Speaker 2: I was working for Frank Sinatra. I met all the mobsters,

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Speaker 2: the Jewish mobsters, the Italian mobstership, but the worst mobster

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Speaker 2: I ever met, worst organized crime guy, Joe Kennedy. He

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Speaker 2: went to Harvard.

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Speaker 1: And we can't say it on the air, but tell the.

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Speaker 2: Jokes I can't repeat. We can't repeat the jokes on

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Speaker 2: the air that Joe Kennedy used to tell.

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Speaker 1: Joe Kennedy in Sinatra's dinner party, would say the most ugly, racist,

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Speaker 1: anti Semitic things you could. We can't even repeat it

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Speaker 1: on the here. It's so vulgar. Yeah, but it's a

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Speaker 1: great book.

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Speaker 2: And yet, and yet down here in Palm Beach, you know,

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't let him in any of the waspy clubs

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Speaker 2: because obviously it was a gangster. So he had to

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Speaker 2: play golf at the Jewish country club. I always was

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Speaker 2: I always wondered about that, the pump that's where he

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Speaker 2: had a stroke at the Palm Beach country Club, play

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Speaker 2: playing golf.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. In the last few years of his life,

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Speaker 1: he was basically bedridden, right, it was awful. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No. All he could say was no, no.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you want more of this, get Howie Carson.

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Speaker 1: He's got these great books Kennedy Babylon and Volume.

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Speaker 2: Two, Kenny Babylon Volumes One and two. Hey, I got

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Speaker 2: they're still They're still around. I'm gonna this this summer.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I'm going to hook up with Amazon

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Speaker 2: and have Amazon just take over printing them and then

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Speaker 2: they'll be readily available at popular prices. Yet again. I

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Speaker 2: think I can bring those books back again. You can

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Speaker 2: still get them. You can still get them.

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Speaker 1: And also get Howie Carr's latest book, Mass Corruption. Just

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Speaker 1: go to Amazon Mass Corruption by Howie Carr. Also just

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Speaker 1: go to his website. You can get the radio show,

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Speaker 1: the podcast Everything Howie Carr Show dot Com, or hear

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Speaker 1: him on iHeart Howie Carr. Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Mark about take care Forget Buck and Clay noon today,

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Speaker 1: right after the News at twelve, it's Buck and Clay

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Speaker 1: for three hours. And then you got the most listened

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Speaker 1: to radio show in America, Sean Hannity at three. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and you got j You got Jesse Kelly at six,

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