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Speaker 2: NFL long Dan Barrero, are you cranky?

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Speaker 3: I'm not damn very good.

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Speaker 4: Look, I apologize for the delay. I thought it might

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Speaker 4: make you cranky. Sean Salisbury usually joins us on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: He joined today and I thought, now you know you're

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Speaker 4: you can be. I'm not gonna lie. You can be

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Speaker 4: kind of high maintenance. In fact, if I had to

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Speaker 4: rank our regular guests, you have to be top five

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Speaker 4: high maintenance.

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Speaker 3: Well that's not very nice.

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Speaker 5: It's isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm look, Dan, there's times when I think you

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Speaker 3: actively tried to irritate me. You do, I think so,

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Speaker 3: And if you don't, you're not trying to.

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Speaker 5: Do a severy kind, very kind No, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just saying you're actively trying to do that, and it's

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Speaker 3: for show, you know what I mean. It's this isn't

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Speaker 3: this is about show. So anyway, No, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: This is our last one we're gonna do this year.

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Speaker 3: And because you do not have a signed agreement for

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Speaker 3: next year. This might be the last one ever. For

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Speaker 3: the predictions.

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Speaker 5: Say that sounds pretty dramatic out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you never know, Dan, where your radio

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Speaker 3: station works, who knows?

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Speaker 4: Man, Well, are you sure we want you back next year? No,

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Speaker 4: I just don't take anything for granted there. It sounds

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking anything for granted, Dan, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: This might be your last one ever.

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Speaker 5: Are you a big bad bunny guy bat Bunny, bad Bunny.

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Speaker 5: I think he's called a bad bunny.

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Speaker 3: I think it's bat bunny super superhero guy. Yeah, I could.

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Speaker 3: I have to admit, Dan, I don't think I've even

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Speaker 3: heard a bat bunny song?

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I have. I don't. I mean, do

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Speaker 3: you think maybe you should get out more in Spanish?

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Speaker 6: Right? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 3: Spanish song?

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Speaker 5: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: I think the last Spanish song that I listened to

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Speaker 3: was in eighth grade Spanish class and it was a

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Speaker 5: You sure.

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Speaker 3: I listened to that, But that's in English for the

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Speaker 3: most part.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's true. That's a good point. You're right about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dan, I'm not a big bat bunny person. To

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Speaker 3: be honest, it's gonna be a big day at the

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Speaker 3: Active for exhibit that and breakfast and lunch because after

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Speaker 3: we take the people. First of all, we're having another

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Speaker 3: of our murder mysteries that we started last week. It

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Speaker 3: was very successful, and we're doing that on tonight and

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night, and then we're gonna ship everybody out do

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Speaker 3: kind of early lunch. And we got a super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: That sounds very compelling.

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Speaker 6: No that the.

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Speaker 3: Murder mysteries went very well, except when the first one

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Speaker 3: we were we said the victim was kill Williams and

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Speaker 3: people really didn't care who did it. A lot of

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Speaker 5: That very nice.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's not real, I know.

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Speaker 5: But nevertheless, it's just not real.

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Speaker 3: It's just a game. It's just fun. You know. Why

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems like that's you know, there's there's

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Speaker 5: Well, they are.

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Speaker 3: Watch that show on TV called The Trader.

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Speaker 5: I've heard it's quite good, but I haven't watched it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched that show. That's that's very good, except

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Speaker 3: for the fact there's too many desperate housewives on there.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, you're the super Bowl party. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: Bowl party, big game party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they want to say. I'm saying super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: If Goodell wants to start something, gils will be off

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Speaker 3: wants to come on up, collect some money from me

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Speaker 3: because I'm staying super Bowl. I think I can collect

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Speaker 3: something from you. You don't, don't Goodell. Goodell does not

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Speaker 3: want any product, meaning Dan.

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Speaker 5: You think he's afraidiant.

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Speaker 3: I should be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have that, you have that way about you.

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Speaker 4: There's no question, there's no there's.

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Speaker 3: Very few people because I'm a supervised.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no no, and an owner and a number

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Speaker 4: of other things as well. We'll get we only have

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Speaker 4: one game today, so before we get to that. A

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Speaker 4: number of Texters are kind of demanding because they like

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Speaker 4: sensibility about you that they relate to, and they're curious, like, well,

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Speaker 4: it's under that classification. Of you know, what would Carl

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Speaker 4: with the first official controversy of the Milan Courtina Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Now, what is it about the steroids or something like that?

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Speaker 4: Well close, but not exactly that. Apparently there is an

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Speaker 4: investigation into the possibility that male skiers could be injecting

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Speaker 4: themselves with hyaluronic acid in their penises.

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Speaker 3: To get stuff like a women's shampoo. Yes, I see

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Speaker 3: it on TV where Eva Longoria is get having some

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Speaker 3: hyaluronic acids.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and in this case, it is allegedly injected into

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Speaker 4: the penis to gain an athletic advantage in for example,

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Speaker 4: ski jumping. Your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: First of all, Dan, why are you always focused on this?

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Speaker 5: We're focused on it. It's I'm covering.

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Speaker 3: Were always asking questions about sex.

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Speaker 5: We follow the story. Well, this has nothing to do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can, Dan, You can look up all

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Speaker 3: kinds of stories online and you shouldn't for more. Okay,

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Speaker 3: sports dot com on to do that stuff. Okay, they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do in order to improve.

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Speaker 4: I guess there's a hydra they believe there's a a how.

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Speaker 5: Do I explain it?

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Speaker 4: An advantage in terms of dare I say it the

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Speaker 4: lift that the would be ski jumper might get, and

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying every here's the.

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Speaker 3: Quote you got to stop read.

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Speaker 5: Here's the question. This is sports dot Com. Here's the quote.

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Speaker 3: This is not just you gotta this is just my

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Speaker 3: advice to you. Dan. You're not young anymore. You don't

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Speaker 3: need to be doing this. Okay, you know I would

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Speaker 3: stay away. I just don't do it. Every say I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to read sticky side to it.

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Speaker 4: If your suit has a understand how that works, I'm

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Speaker 3: It's is it like somehow don't they well, like one

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but supposedly.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't there evidence be fair?

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Speaker 4: The aerodynamic advantage is the suit. The suit size would

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Speaker 4: that's considered advantageous to get greater distance and lift. I

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Speaker 4: what it does, presumably to the suit.

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Speaker 5: The suit becomes bigger.

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Speaker 3: It's just not some guy's attempts to kind of you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's the talk of the Olympics right now.

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Speaker 5: Just saying it's already been called.

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Speaker 5: It's already being called penis gape.

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Speaker 3: You by newspapers and by one.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying I was looking for a little

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Speaker 5: Uh, this is.

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Speaker 4: A common filler used in cosmetic surgery, so the idea

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Speaker 5: No, well, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Although well, there's a professor who says it could make

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Speaker 4: things bigger. But you would need to inject a lot

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Speaker 4: of this acid for it to be effective. It's temporary

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Speaker 5: And I'm just saying, and.

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Speaker 3: I suppose you can just go. Is that coming by

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Speaker 5: It's a great question.

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Speaker 3: as part of the murder mystery a myschief because what's

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Speaker 3: in the results?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Really, does that mean there's a chance a few things

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be in that way, you're covering your end and saying, well, no,

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Speaker 4: that's part of the deal, that's part of the game.

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Speaker 3: No, we have a special kind of sasage. It's going

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Speaker 5: I see mystery sausage.

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Speaker 3: Yea mischief su that Dan, I probably didn't even tell

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Speaker 6: No, not me, I have no.

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Speaker 4: I'm being as as clinical and scientific as I possibly can.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I'm being childish about this. I don't

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Speaker 3: Do your employers scour your internet history?

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Speaker 5: Hopefully not. If your suit has a five percent bigger

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Speaker 5: service area, you fly further. So there it is. I

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Speaker 5: mean that, that's it. That's all. Yes, that's it.

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Speaker 3: So let's say you let's say you say you know

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Speaker 5: What's I don't I have no idea, but it's.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it sounds like it's probably like a

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Speaker 4: That could be the difference between a gold medal and

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Speaker 4: maybe a bronze for all I know, or maybe not

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Speaker 4: even medaling.

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Speaker 3: I can't. I don't think I want to metal that bad.

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Speaker 5: Well that's a good question there.

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Speaker 4: What yeah, what are you willing to sacrifice because there

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Speaker 4: are side effects?

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Speaker 5: Apparently it says.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, yeah, I couldn't imagine what those might be.

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Speaker 3: Whole topic is just my last time ever, Dan, you're

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Speaker 3: talking about. Shoot, something.

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Speaker 4: Poorly injected technique or incorrect dose would cause any or

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Speaker 4: all the following penile Yes, penile.

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Speaker 3: Pain, didn't hit the right spot.

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Speaker 4: Disfigurement, deformity, infection on the morning show, in flavor, inflammation,

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Speaker 4: sensory change, all those things, and worst case scenario, infection

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Speaker 4: can spread to cause gang green.

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Speaker 5: And loss of the organ. You think that's worth it

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Speaker 5: for a metal, Yes, for a metal I'm with you

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Speaker 3: But you see it's going down hill, going up and jumping.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet you it was for you.

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Speaker 5: No, that's true. Think about it, Think about that. That's yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's the beauty of it.

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Speaker 5: Song, it's very patronizing.

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Speaker 4: We're going with four and a half Seattle favored by

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Speaker 5: What do you got like?

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Speaker 3: That's you?

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I want you back, Gerby. If

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Speaker 1: I think straight up? I think it's Seahawks and it's

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Speaker 6: That's why he's.

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Speaker 3: The Jordan could come up with that kind of no,

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Speaker 5: No, come on, maybe maybe on college basketball.

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Speaker 3: Games, there's a question is about how much it's four

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Speaker 3: It's like a lot of four point swings that make sense.

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Speaker 3: I think both defenses are very very good. Both teams

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Speaker 4: Well, it be better than the Prince halftime show, though, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I didn't watch that. You said that, you've told us

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know. Look I get for you guys,

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Speaker 4: So well, yeah, well what was that supposed to mean.

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Speaker 5: This one's easy. I think Seattle is going to destroy

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think it's going to be close. I

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Speaker 4: I don't even think this is going to be close.

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Speaker 4: Will you watch anyway or not.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, we're doing one of them contests as part

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Speaker 4: Somebody did ask an interesting question of you. This is

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Speaker 3: Dan, what.

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Speaker 5: It's hypothetical? We're trying to get a handle on you.

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Speaker 3: I would probably be a pretty good ski jumper without it,

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Speaker 4: I was about to ask you That's the end of

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Speaker 4: the Gurby segment for today. For the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: Will we want him back next year? Those are all

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure we'll get the reviews in on who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the temperature is better, but the winds are like

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Speaker 6: he will. But I don't think that anybody is going

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Speaker 6: to go into the season just completely banking on that,

447
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Speaker 6: because I know there's a lot of people with a

448
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 6: lot riding on it. You've got a lot of veterans

449
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 6: in that locker room that want to win, want to

450
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Speaker 6: be competitive. I mean, you've heard Justin Jefferson say it

451
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Speaker 6: out of the Super Bowl this week. I think a

452
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Speaker 6: lot of the things he said out there were things

453
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Speaker 6: he said through the course of the season too. But

454
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 6: you have people that want to win and want to

455
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Speaker 6: win now, and it's hard to just do the development thing.

456
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Speaker 6: I think that was the hope at the beginning of

457
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Speaker 6: this year, is that you could kind of bring him

458
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Speaker 6: along faster than it looked like they did. And I

459
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 6: don't know that it's the same situation next year. It's

460
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Speaker 6: kind of one of those Okay, he tried this for

461
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Speaker 6: a year, and if it's you go into the next

462
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Speaker 6: year assuming well, a second year, it's just going to

463
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Speaker 6: be better. I just don't think anybody's going to go

464
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Speaker 6: about it that way. So I think for the interests

465
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Speaker 6: of a lot of people in that building, including Kevin O'Connell,

466
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 6: who needs to get to the playoffs and win a

467
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 6: playoff game here, I think there's going to be a

468
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 6: lot more of an open situation, which could take any

469
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Speaker 6: number of different pads. But no, I think the idea

470
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Speaker 6: that JJ McCarthy's got that job secured at this point

471
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Speaker 6: is not the case.

472
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Speaker 4: We had Sean Salisbury on at three point thirty. He

473
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Speaker 4: usually joins us on Thursday, but had some scheduling issues

474
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Speaker 4: and he well, I asked him about the the quasy dismissal.

475
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Speaker 4: He granted that he's this is from Afar, but he

476
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Speaker 4: was pretty tough on him, and I think a lot

477
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Speaker 4: of what he was doing was reading a lot that

478
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Speaker 4: has been written on it. And there are a couple

479
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Speaker 4: of texters, including Chris who's I think got very intentive.

480
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Speaker 4: For example, he wrote, no one would give a bleep

481
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Speaker 4: that he took two weeks. I guess they're talking about

482
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Speaker 4: the period after a birth of a kid, if you

483
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Speaker 4: took two weeks off. If they won some games where

484
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Speaker 4: if Donald doesn't put mud on their face. I want

485
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Speaker 4: to speak to that what that sentiment indicates, because I

486
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Speaker 4: think that's the nature of any of these moves.

487
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Speaker 5: What tends to happen.

488
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Speaker 4: An executive or a coach shows some vulnerability because either

489
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Speaker 4: the team's not doing that well, or perhaps the team

490
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Speaker 4: is not drafting that well, and they reach a point where, okay,

491
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Speaker 4: are we going to make a change. Well, maybe we

492
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Speaker 4: are going to make a change. And then what happens

493
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Speaker 4: invariably is guys like you trying to cover the story.

494
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Speaker 4: You're in a position where you're doing a post mortem

495
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Speaker 4: on all right, how did we get here? And I

496
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: think you'll probably agree that if the Vikings had had

497
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Speaker 4: a series of good to very good drafts, even if

498
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Speaker 4: his work ethic, or his approach or his time off

499
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Speaker 4: was exactly the same, none of it would come up.

500
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Speaker 4: But it's limberg baby material to me to be surprised

501
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: that ancillary issues are going to come up when things

502
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Speaker 4: don't go well. That's the nature of this business, I

503
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: think pretty much any business, is it not?

504
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, And I think that I mean

505
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Speaker 6: that the paternity leave stuff has been a big talker

506
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Speaker 6: through the course of this that has not been in

507
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Speaker 6: my particular story because some of it I just don't

508
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Speaker 6: think is as big of a deal as it's about

509
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Speaker 6: to be. But the reason it becomes an issue, like

510
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Speaker 6: you say, is when it's after the fact, and hey,

511
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Speaker 6: what are the issues that people have heard about? A

512
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Speaker 6: lot of us had heard that that happened. But the

513
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Speaker 6: thing I would say to that is, and you're kind

514
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Speaker 6: of getting to this point, I think, is that if

515
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Speaker 6: they had won and this had happened, they would have

516
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 6: been hailed for being a more forward thinking organization. We're

517
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Speaker 6: giving people time to have some work life balance. We're

518
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Speaker 6: kind of breaking the mold of the coaches that sleep

519
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Speaker 6: in their off This is the executives that you have

520
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 6: a Murphy bed. You remember that happening. I think Mike

521
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Speaker 6: Zimmer Murphy bed in as old officer winner party if

522
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Speaker 6: I recall correctly. But there's I think a lot of

523
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Speaker 6: those molds get broken if this works, and then they

524
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Speaker 6: become kind of this precedent setting organization in a different way.

525
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Speaker 6: So I think the thing I would say to the

526
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Speaker 6: whole attorney leave issue is, I mean, that happened in

527
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Speaker 6: twenty three and if it was a big enough issue

528
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Speaker 6: for it to lead to somebody getting fired. There is

529
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Speaker 6: no chance that they bring him back in twenty four

530
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Speaker 6: when they're heading into a draft where they're going to

531
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Speaker 6: take a quarterback in the first round. If that was

532
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Speaker 6: something that was going to lead to a firing, I

533
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 6: think it would have happened sooner. And some of it, obviously,

534
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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody's insinuating that that was the refil.

535
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's one of those details.

536
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Speaker 4: It comes of sexy detail, right, and it goes to

537
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Speaker 4: the top of the list. It doesn't mean it was

538
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Speaker 4: at the top of the list. And I think people

539
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: get confused by that. I think you've written. I know,

540
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Speaker 4: I think some of you have written. And again, whether

541
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Speaker 4: this is fair or not, whether this is too easy

542
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: after the fact, we can have that debate. But it

543
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: seems certain that within that building, leaving aside two weeks off,

544
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Speaker 4: there was a level of detachment sometimes that got in

545
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Speaker 4: the way in the minds of some of the other

546
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Speaker 4: people in the building. Correct, And so however it manifests itself.

547
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: It really isn't just that that's just like I said,

548
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: the sexy headline talking point, right, But it's more generally

549
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: I think that feeling of maybe you know, he's a

550
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: little too removed in some ways, and maybe that's contributing

551
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Speaker 4: to a feel feeling that, you know, we're not communicating

552
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Speaker 4: the way that we should. And even that stuff, I

553
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: would argue probably wouldn't be that big of a deal

554
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: to people if the results were better. But isn't it

555
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: a more general feeling about that, about maybe being a

556
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Speaker 4: little bit sometimes too removed.

557
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that is that is true. And I was

558
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Speaker 6: looking back through old notes from conversations I'd had throughout

559
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Speaker 6: his tenuary this week, and that has come up. And

560
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Speaker 6: you know, this idea of being more connected to the

561
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Speaker 6: rest of the staff, being more connected to the entire

562
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Speaker 6: organization was certainly something that had been discussed, you know,

563
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Speaker 6: you know, probably a year or two into the job.

564
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Speaker 6: So yeah, and I think some of those things evolve

565
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Speaker 6: and some of those things change over time. But yeah,

566
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Speaker 6: when you have a guy that was coming from a

567
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Speaker 6: background that was not traditional, and you have a lot

568
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Speaker 6: of scouts who look at this probably with a bit

569
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Speaker 6: of a raised eyebrow, you have a hurdle to clear there.

570
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Speaker 6: And he was fairly honest about that, saying that, you know,

571
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Speaker 6: when I'm coming into this job and people look at

572
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Speaker 6: me as not a quote unquote football guy. I do

573
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Speaker 6: need to build that bridge. I think he was cognizant

574
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Speaker 6: of the need to change that. And did he get

575
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Speaker 6: there with everybody? I don't think he did. So. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 6: I think that was certainly part of the story of

577
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Speaker 6: what happened here, and it was going to be one

578
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Speaker 6: of those things that, given what they were trying to

579
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Speaker 6: correct for I suppose where he's coming in and he's new,

580
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Speaker 6: and he's kind of an unusual candidate, it was going

581
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Speaker 6: to be something that probably required maybe a little more

582
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Speaker 6: attention than it got. But yes, I think that certainly,

583
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: as you're hashing out what happened, that's certainly part of

584
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Speaker 6: the story.

585
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Speaker 4: And by the way, and I guess I didn't hear

586
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: it the same way, but a couple of wheeld Texas

587
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: said that Sean also says something about that that he

588
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: hadn't shown up at the Senior Bowl.

589
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Speaker 5: I think this.

590
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Speaker 4: He was at the Senior Bowl this year for sure, right,

591
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if he was referring. Has there

592
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Speaker 4: ever been any writing that he wasn't in another Senior Ball.

593
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Speaker 4: I want to correct the record on that particular issue,

594
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Speaker 4: if indeed that's what he said. I did not catch

595
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Speaker 4: that part of the conversation I had with him very closely,

596
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Speaker 4: but that's what a couple of people have indicated.

597
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he was certainly at the Senior Bowl

598
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Speaker 6: this year, and I believe has gone in previous years.

599
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 6: I can't tell you his attendance record every year of it.

600
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Speaker 6: I haven't been in the Senior Bowl in quite a

601
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Speaker 6: long time. It's probably been ten years since I've been

602
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 6: in the Senior Bowls. I think about it, but yeah,

603
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Speaker 6: I mean I think awfully detached and removed year he

604
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Speaker 6: was down there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's what they say about you detaching and

606
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Speaker 5: remove sae same thing.

607
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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. The starts to travel budgets sometimes are the things.

608
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Speaker 5: That prohibit that might have something to do with whether.

609
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Speaker 6: I am detached or not. Iause because yeah, you're always

610
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 6: and you're trying to piss through the offet. And I

611
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Speaker 6: think for teams too, that one is always. If you

612
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Speaker 6: play late into the playoffs, that changes some of the.

613
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Speaker 5: Things at that point.

614
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Speaker 6: Okay, so the vikings, but a couple of the playoff years,

615
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Speaker 6: you're you're still trying to sort out some of the

616
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Speaker 6: stuff from the season.

617
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Speaker 5: All right, we got a lot more ground to cover.

618
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Speaker 5: Let's get a quick pause in now.

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Speaker 4: We went a little bit long with Gurby because sometimes

620
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Speaker 4: it's just hard to stop them. We got more with

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Speaker 4: the Ben Gestling Star Tribune and Stardibune dot com and

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624
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Speaker 5: We'll continue with Ben next Part two with Ben Gestling.

625
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Speaker 4: Now, as I mentioned, top five yet to come and

626
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: Lavelle will join at five point thirty. We'll have some

627
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Speaker 4: winter I'm looking for some winner olymp nuggets in the

628
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Speaker 4: top five to five, so be warned. I'm looking for

629
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Speaker 4: because I know there's already been some competition, and then

630
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Speaker 4: the opening ceremonies I think are just wrapping up.

631
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Speaker 5: So let me know on all that.

632
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Speaker 4: Make that a part of whatever we do, even if

633
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Speaker 4: it comes at the expense of Fallness's team. Part two

634
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Speaker 4: with Ben Gesling joining us via the Connectico Water Systems Online.

635
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Speaker 4: I want to interject one last point from the first

636
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Speaker 4: part of our conversation, and we covered I think a

637
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: decent amount of this last week in discussing the quasy bit.

638
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: I am firmly of the opinion that I don't want

639
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: this to be Quazy is responsible for everything that goes wrong.

640
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: We talked about how easy that becomes when that's the

641
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: guy who's dismissed, and that, especially at the quarterback position.

642
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: It's too easy for me.

643
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: It's way too easy just to say, well, Quasy didn't

644
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: get Jones back. He was in charge of that, didn't

645
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: get it done, and it just you know that nothing

646
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: seemed to work there. Because I firmly believe that's very

647
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: much a shared responsibility. So I don't because I think

648
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: a couple of the Texters are getting a little bit

649
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: of the wrong idea here.

650
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Speaker 5: I think there's to me and I think you agree

651
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: with this.

652
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Speaker 4: Been the top of the list is just results and

653
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: the results on the draft, and it's hard to get

654
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: past that no matter what style he used, whether the

655
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: Rick Spielman style or a Quasy Dopamensa style. Right, So

656
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: that's at the top of the list. But on the

657
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 4: quarterback thing, I'm sorry. I'm not in the group that

658
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: believes it's it's it's You're just it's it's you know,

659
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna look back on this and say Quasy blew

660
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Speaker 4: this end of story.

661
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Speaker 5: I just don't buy it.

662
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't either. I mean, they were certainly in

663
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Speaker 6: concert on that pick, and Kevin O'Connell obviously was driving

664
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Speaker 6: a lot of that process to get to that point,

665
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: and when they were on the clock, they had the

666
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 6: choice between McCarthy and Bonnicks, and they very clearly wanted

667
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy there. I mean, the question of could you

668
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 6: move up and trade for Drake May is going to

669
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 6: go on forever, especially when he the Super Bowl on Sunday,

670
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 6: But the Patriots held very firm on that tick and

671
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 6: the idea that they could make up, get up and

672
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 6: make that deal. I mean, they certainly tried, and I

673
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 6: think that's really all you can do, because if the

674
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 6: team wasn't going to move, there's no way to get him.

675
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 6: So I think the responsibility on the pick certainly has

676
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 6: to be shared, and I think that's probably how everybody

677
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 6: in that building is looking at it too, that you

678
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 6: have to look at everything in terms of what you

679
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 6: saw on McCarthy, how you develop him, And we may

680
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 6: be a ways yet from being able to render the

681
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: final verdict on him, we'll see, But as you look

682
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 6: at it at the moment where they're kind of opening

683
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: things back up this offseason. You do have to then

684
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: go back and say, what did we do in this

685
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 6: process that led us to the point where two years

686
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 6: after taking him, we're thinking about this again. So that's

687
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 6: going to be something that a lot of people have

688
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 6: to look at pretty closely.

689
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: Hey, one last history lesson from you if you can

690
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: help us. And I think I asked see for this

691
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: early in the week. I don't believe I asked you

692
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: this because a couple of people had emailed this particular question.

693
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: Has it ever been established in your mind or in

694
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: what you've written reported on where Quazy was because I mean, basically,

695
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: the Vikings were looking at Koc and they were looking

696
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: at Harball, right. Harball had that whirlwind trip where he

697
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 4: blew through out of nowhere and we're going, wait a minute,

698
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 4: what's going on here? Maybe he's going to get the job,

699
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: and then he leaves and there's some people who thought

700
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 4: in the building he was weird and other people were excited.

701
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: So do we have any working knowledge on Quasy's view,

702
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: because it clearly was not just his hire. I don't

703
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: believe on between those two individuals too, you know, would

704
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 4: be coaches Harbaugh or Koc well.

705
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 6: From what I remember, I mean, Harball came in, and

706
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 6: some of it was they had a pretty standardized interview

707
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 6: process that they wanted to go through the same things

708
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 6: with everybody, whether you were a guy that had almost

709
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 6: won a Super Bowl, whether you or a guy that

710
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: was a first time head coaching candidate. And Harbaugh, I

711
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 6: think he went through that process during the second part

712
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 6: of it, and they got further into it, it was like, Okay,

713
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 6: this isn't really working. This isn't somebody who is kind

714
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 6: of clicking with the people that would be involved in

715
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: making this decision. Quasi included, and from everything I've heard

716
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: when he went out to California to talk with O'Connell,

717
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 6: there was a lot of things where the two of them,

718
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 6: at least in the interview clicked and felt like they

719
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 6: were seeing things the same way in a lot of cases.

720
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Speaker 6: And you know, I think that's over time working together,

721
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 6: they had some of those things and there were some

722
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 6: things where they differed, But I know the interview process

723
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Speaker 6: with Harbaugh was one of the points on it was

724
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 6: that they didn't really bend it and say, well, okay,

725
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 6: we're gonna take a different process with you, given your

726
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 6: history it was they wanted to see everybody go through

727
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 6: the same process, and I don't think he came out

728
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: of that having done terribly well. So Yeah, I think

729
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 6: as they went through it, from what I know of

730
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: the reactions in those two interviews, I don't think he

731
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: was putting his thumb on the scale for Harbaugh. I

732
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 6: think it was very much a well, we'll give him

733
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 6: a chance, like we'll give everybody else. But I don't

734
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Speaker 6: think there was any thing where he was trying to

735
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Speaker 6: steer them towards Harbaugh away from O'Connell. I think it

736
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 6: was just that when he went through it, the results

737
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 6: for them were clear enough to say this is not

738
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Speaker 6: going to be the fit. We're going to go with O'Connell.

739
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: All right.

740
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 4: Who else have I feel like we've made a couple

741
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 4: other hires, and I don't completely understand are we getting

742
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 4: any I mean, who's running what in the front office

743
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 4: right now? And who have we added to the list

744
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: in this interim period right where we assume we're not

745
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: going to make a final Well, we said we're not

746
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: going to make a final call on a permanent general

747
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: manager till after the draft.

748
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Robert Zinsky is running things in the

749
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 6: front office at the moment. And they made an addition

750
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: yesterday hiring the former Seahawks salary cap official that had

751
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 6: been retired from a couple of years ago to come

752
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: in and do a lot of that work to help

753
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 6: Robertsinski with it, because you know he's going to, I think,

754
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 6: be involved in some of those things. But when you're

755
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 6: running the front office effectively, you're kind of the de

756
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 6: facto GM. You have more responsibilities than just running the

757
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Speaker 6: cast stuff. So that's a temporary thing. It's basically a

758
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 6: consulting gig through the draft, and I don't think that'll

759
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Speaker 6: be something permanent.

760
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Speaker 3: You know.

761
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Speaker 6: I got the question of does this mean that Presentski's

762
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 6: the front runner for the job. I don't think it's.

763
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody's looking at it that way. It's

764
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Speaker 6: let's get this to the point where we can get

765
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Speaker 6: through a busy offseason with enough people to do the

766
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Speaker 6: work that we need. And so that's where they're at

767
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 6: in the front office. And then Frank Smith coming in

768
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 6: on the offensive staff I think is probably one of

769
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Speaker 6: the bigger higher there. They promote Keith Carter to the

770
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Speaker 6: offensive line coach, but Frank Smith is somebody that has

771
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 6: a lot of offensive line experience, had been the Dolphins

772
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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator and had had a lot to do with

773
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 6: some of the run game stuff that for the first

774
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: part of their tenure with Mike McDaniel down there, that

775
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 6: Dolphins run game was kind of the talk of the

776
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 6: league given how many different designs, different schemes they had

777
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 6: to get a lot of guys with top end speed

778
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: loose down the field. So I think he's going to

779
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 6: be involved in a lot of those things. And then defensively,

780
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 6: Gerald Alexander, the defensive backs coach, has worked with Brian

781
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 6: Flores quite a bit in the past. And then Ryan Nielsen,

782
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 6: the defensive line coach, who's got an additional the one

783
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 6: game coordinator title on defense as well. He is going

784
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: to be in charge of that defensive line. He's a

785
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 6: guy that they actually had talked to a couple of

786
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 6: years ago for the DC job when they hired Brian Flores.

787
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 6: So that's where we stand at the moment, and they'll

788
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 6: have to hire a tight ends coach with Brian Angelico

789
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 6: becoming the Steelers offensive coordinators, so there's going to be

790
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 6: a few other things. They'll be assistant position coach jobs

791
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 6: that still get filled, and they'll see the staff get

792
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 6: rounded out a little bit more here. But that's I

793
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 6: think that's the tally of everything that's happened at the moment,

794
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 6: unless I'm forgetting something, but yeah, it's it's an evolving

795
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 6: process here and probably will continue to be some of

796
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 6: those things ticking through the news feed here in the

797
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: next couple of weeks.

798
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good synopsis. That's actually perfect.

799
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: Let me get to a text that has Oh, I

800
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: know I was going to ask you, when is the

801
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: next time koc is going to surface publicly.

802
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: I would expect it'll be at the Combine, which is

803
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 6: in a couple of weeks here. We may talk to

804
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 6: him right hear from him before then. I think it's

805
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 6: probably likely that he'll show up. I think the next

806
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: time we'll probably be at the Combine. I know he's

807
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 6: planning to talk with with the beat writers that are

808
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 6: going to be down there, myself and a number of

809
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 6: others from the Start Tribute and included in that. So

810
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 6: I would think that's probably the next time we'll hear

811
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 6: from him.

812
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: It's possible that changes, but I think that's that.

813
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 6: Would be where i'd expect it will.

814
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 4: Be one last text. This comes from Angie out of Rochester.

815
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 4: The elementary school library I work in has a Minnesota

816
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: Timberwolves book written by Ben published in twenty twelve.

817
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: I would love to hear the story behind it.

818
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that is it was. It's like written for

819
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: fourth graders. It was I think I did a book

820
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: on I was covering the Nationals at the time, and

821
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 6: I did a book kind of the history of the

822
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 6: Washington Nationals to that point, and they that book probably

823
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 6: needs a second edition because they got really good. As

824
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 6: soon as I left that beat. They started winning all

825
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: the time, so all of that stuff is not in there.

826
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Speaker 6: But I did that, and then they asked me. I think, hey,

827
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Speaker 6: do you want to do another one on the timber Bowl.

828
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Speaker 6: Of knowing I was from Minnesota, I think it was

829
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 6: a company in Minnesota that did that. I want to

830
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 6: say it was maybe even one of our copyaters at

831
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 6: the Star Tribune that got me connected with that. So

832
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: I did that one and those are those are my

833
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 6: only two published books. It was a couple of books

834
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 6: you'll find in elementary school library. I said anything more

835
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: riveting than that, but you know, it's that man educating

836
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 6: the next generation is a good thing too.

837
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Speaker 4: They are worse things, and you could argue that for

838
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: some of us, maybe fourth grade levels actually will resonate

839
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: with with with with mid books.

840
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 6: So that's what the newspaper is supposed to be written

841
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 6: than the fourth grade level. I probably have editors that say, hey,

842
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 6: maybe you should try that use a few less ten

843
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 6: cent words. Any of them are loostening right now. They're

844
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 6: probably nodding their heads.

845
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 5: No doubt. Who do you have winning Sunday?

846
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 6: I have the Seahawks winning. I think the Patriots will

847
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 6: have a chance to test that defense, especially if they

848
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 6: can push the ball down field. I think that's going

849
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 6: to be a lot of what to watch for. But

850
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 6: I think that defense, as well as it's played, is

851
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: going to make things difficult for Drake May. I think

852
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 6: trying to get in if that game turns into a shootout,

853
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 6: if the Seahawks put it in a position where the

854
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 6: Patriots have to chase points, I don't think the kind

855
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 6: of game the Patriots want to be able to play

856
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: because I think that Seahawks offense, especially with Jasin Spith

857
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: and Jigba, is pretty prolific. So I think they win

858
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: it I think it's relatively close. I think when I

859
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: was talking about this on our podcast this week, I

860
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: think the spread I believe is four and a half.

861
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 6: I picked Seahawks to win, Patriots to cover. But I

862
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 6: think what I said on there was they get to

863
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 6: the one yard line at the end, and rather than

864
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 6: throwing from the one yardline this time, they handed to

865
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker. He goes in for the go ahead touchdown,

866
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: and nobody tries to get too clever on the goal

867
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 6: line this time.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll let chat

869
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: next week.

870
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 6: Thanks Ben all Right, enjoyed the Super Bowl, Dan, Thanks man.

871
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 5: Ben Gesling. Brought to you by Standard Heating and Air Conditioning.

872
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: Lavelle Usual, another Friday regular, is scheduled for his usual

873
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: time at about five point thirty and maybe an underwear

874
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 4: anecdote or two. He's always good for one of those

875
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: top five though.

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00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: What's next.

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Speaker 1: We'll preview a Wolves game, we'll talk Olympics, and I

878
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: might have to pen an apology to Kevin Falmas.