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Speaker 2: was just talking about the pressure that Houston figures to

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Speaker 2: put on Aaron Rodgers. Monday night, Houston plays a four

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Speaker 2: to three Anderson and Hunter on the ends. I guess

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Speaker 2: it's Fatano against Anderson and Dylan Cook against Tunner.

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not crazy about that last matchup.

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Speaker 3: Of course not I'm not crazy about the first matchup

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Speaker 3: that you said either. These are the two best edge

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Speaker 3: rushers as far as a tandem is concerned that anybody

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Speaker 3: can throw at you in the league. This is the

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Speaker 3: best duo that someone has to offer. Tomlin said that

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Speaker 3: today more or less, and because of that, not only

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Speaker 3: does Houston get an insane amount of pressure pressure, they

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Speaker 3: do it without blitzing you. Know that four to three

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Speaker 3: that they have, those four guys are the only ones

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Speaker 3: that are coming at Rogers, and they're gonna make his

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Speaker 3: life hell, which means that seven are going to be

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Speaker 3: dropped back into coverage. That is the most crucial matchup

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Speaker 3: in this game. If they can figure out a way

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Speaker 3: to keep Rogers cleaning that pocket for him to make

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Speaker 3: some plays downfield, they have a puncher's chance.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not optimistic about that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did you find it curious that Brian

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Speaker 2: Batco at the post because that said yesterday, like very

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Speaker 2: matter of fact that in the Cleveland game, Rogers did

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Speaker 2: ditch the ball early to keep Garrett from getting the record.

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Speaker 1: He stated it like he was sure about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But see what I always was so torn with that,

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Speaker 3: you know narrative was that's what you do against the

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Speaker 3: Browns anyways, you get rid of the ball so quickly,

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Speaker 3: so Garrett doesn't, you know, break your back in half

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Speaker 3: and wreck your.

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Speaker 1: Game, right right?

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Speaker 2: But Brian said it like like it was because of

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Speaker 2: the sack record tick earlier, like like, but I still

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Speaker 2: and I hate to agree with JJ Watt over Brian Batko,

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Speaker 2: But but JJ Watt, you know, said what's the alternative

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Speaker 2: letting him sack Rogers. You know what I would have,

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Speaker 2: like we've seen Rogers, like give Garrett the sack early

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Speaker 2: and just get it out of the way and play football. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I could see that, But at the same time, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that that would have been the difference in

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Speaker 3: the game. Like I don't think if Rogers took a

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Speaker 3: dive and let Garrett get the sack record in the

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Speaker 3: first quarter of the offense would explode in the second

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Speaker 2: You know what Rogers could have done og longest jar

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Speaker 2: just drill Garrett right in the nuts from close range.

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Speaker 1: Just just put him on the sideline, tell Cook let

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Speaker 1: him in free.

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Speaker 2: Right and then it worked once it should work again

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Speaker 2: in the remake he hits the ref and the nuts.

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Speaker 2: I understand the need, you know, to change it up

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Speaker 2: but I liked it better. And it was implied in

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Speaker 2: the original that Ray Nichke, one of the the Guard's

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Speaker 2: middle lineberger. He was dead, literally dead when they carted

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Speaker 2: him off the field, so.

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Speaker 1: They didn't give him a wet willie like they did

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Speaker 1: in the original.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's your assignment to see the original within a

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Speaker 2: n after week, it's going.

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Speaker 1: To ruin the new one for me, though I love

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Speaker 1: the new one.

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Speaker 2: Just watch it and will review, otherwise you'll be fired again. Now,

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Speaker 2: how good is the Steelers O line as they get

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Speaker 2: ready to face Anderson and Hunter and really not just them.

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Speaker 2: They bring pressure from all over the place, albeit without

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Speaker 2: blitzing very much. It's a very standard four to three

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Speaker 2: setup that they rarely have variety within context. But but

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Speaker 2: it's down to the Steelers O line. I think mostly

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Speaker 2: it's a pretty good offensive line. But Cleveland was all

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Speaker 2: over Rogers, and like we're saying right now, Houston's a

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Speaker 3: I think it's a good offensive line. I'm impressed with

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Speaker 3: what the offensive line has developed into this year. I

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Speaker 3: still think they're a smidge overrated though, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, Oh no, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to pass protection, I think it's a

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Speaker 2: You know what's weird. I think they're overrated as individuals.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Zach Fraser that he'll Billy. I don't

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Speaker 1: Do they see Jimalo as a glue guy?

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Speaker 2: But then again, they functioned fairly well when he was

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Speaker 3: He's good, but he's a vet. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: after this. Tatanho is the one that they don't overrate, though.

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Speaker 3: Fatan who is a really solid right here with Tim

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Speaker 2: Now where would you put the tight end? Who would

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Speaker 2: you give help Fatano against Anderson, who's probably the slightly

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Speaker 2: help against Hunter? I'd give Cook help against Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I mean you drafted Ftano in the first round, right,

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Speaker 3: he's got to take on Anderson all the time? One, No,

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Speaker 2: Would you use would you use the jumbo package by

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Speaker 1: Well, what would the jumbo package look like?

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Speaker 3: Because it couldn't be the true one because you're not

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Speaker 2: Just keep putting lineman out there. I think eight nine.

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Speaker 2: I think Anderson lined up as a tight end a

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Speaker 2: sixth you know, the tackle eligible. Maybe put another offensive

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Speaker 2: I think safe as and the Steelers just play it

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Speaker 3: One thing that they cannot do. A mistake they made

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Speaker 3: and Gainwell just has to be involved in your passing game.

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Speaker 3: He has to be your leading receiver like he was

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Speaker 3: in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I watched the.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore game again just to confirm what I thought Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: which is how bad a game it really was.

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Speaker 1: Albeit very exciting.

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Speaker 2: But Baltimore was like a free pass in terms of

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Speaker 1: Grandpa, game manager got to sit back there and take

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Speaker 3: It's so easy. I mean Kyle van Noy is just

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Speaker 3: such a washed up shell of himself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a couple times.

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Speaker 2: How do you mention that there were a couple of

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Speaker 2: times of being NOI you know, got in on Rogers,

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Speaker 3: I mean then only came off his couch last year

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Speaker 3: to be retired. He's passed his prime, He's passed his

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Speaker 3: time on the NFL field. It's gonna be such a

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Speaker 3: different story against the Texans. You saw what Garrett as

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Speaker 1: Well, the Steelers. One more against Houston.

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Speaker 2: Maybe why way of protecting Rogers just just pound the

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Speaker 2: because Houston's defense is not just a pass rush. It

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Speaker 2: is the best defense in the league period, all eleven guys,

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Speaker 2: and as good as the individuals are, they make the

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Speaker 1: It's an incredible defense.

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Speaker 3: That's the answer for the Steelers in this game is

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Speaker 3: to commit to running the football. Of course, Houston's a

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Speaker 3: great run defense too, and they could stop it. But

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Speaker 3: that's your greatest strength as an offense. Matt Williamson has

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Speaker 3: pointed out their fifth in rushing EPA and their fifth

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Speaker 3: Commit to it. They won't do it, though, because of

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. Rogers just dumps out of it way too quickly.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the one guy from the Post Gazette

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Speaker 2: like pumping Tomlins tires on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: I kind of took some shots at him.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy who's supposed to be their big ex'es

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Speaker 1: He's not a freaking stain on Matt williamson sheets.

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Speaker 2: He's He's just such a mark and that was kind

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Speaker 2: of creepy and I wish I had said that one

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Speaker 2: oh five ninety X rejoined music my first concert, I

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Speaker 2: was like thirteen or fourteen. Rod Stewart, Ronnie wood, Ian McLagan,

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Speaker 2: Ronnie Lane had already quit by then.

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Speaker 1: They had a bar on stage.

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Speaker 2: I remember that vividly Faces had a bar on stage

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Speaker 2: The next day, well not long after that, certainly, we

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Speaker 2: got some great sound bites later. We got Shady McCoy,

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Speaker 2: the former Pitt guy. He's with Fox, totally dismissing the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: chances against Houston. And then we got Willie Cologne, also

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Speaker 2: from Fox, former Steeler, acting like this offense has arrived,

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Speaker 2: the overary to beating a crap team in a fake

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Speaker 2: playoff game. Honestly, it's been exactly what I figured it

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Speaker 2: would be, not least locally. You know, the Steelers really

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Speaker 2: should win home game, and they got that Monday night

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Speaker 2: streak twenty three straight wins on Monday night football. Houston

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Speaker 2: is zero to six on the road in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: You got the hot and cold factor, you got the

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Speaker 2: indoor and outdoor factor. It's all adding up. I'm a

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Speaker 2: doubter turning into a believer, but kind of by default,

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Speaker 2: just because it's due that one time they win an

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Speaker 2: efing playoff game and then, like I said in the

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Speaker 2: show's open, then you keep Tomlin for ten more years

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Speaker 2: and don't come close to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And that might be exactly how it plays out.

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Speaker 2: A lot to talk about who's gonna win the AFC

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Speaker 2: playoff games. Who's gonna win the AFC period, ain't nobody.

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Speaker 2: It's very good. What if you beat Houston and Buffalo

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Speaker 2: beats Jacksonville at Jacksonville, which is how I'd bet. Maybe not,

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Speaker 2: I think we all underestimate Jacksonville. But let's say that happens,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo wins, and then the Steelers play New England in

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Speaker 2: the divisional round. Who they beat? Hey, let's all dream

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Speaker 2: big Pittsburgh. Like I said, Houston owen six on the

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Speaker 2: road in playoff games, the Steelers have won twenty three

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Speaker 2: in a row on Monday Night football. Steelers gonna win,

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Speaker 2: It's preordained. Although what's happened before that? Owen six on

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Speaker 2: the road for Houston. The twenty three straight wins on

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Speaker 2: No, I think he'll finish in stinking Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: They're there. They're right there, and the offense is unbelore.

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Speaker 3: This officer, he ain't coming back. I don't think so either,

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Speaker 3: Would you say they're already they're franchise's best quarterbacks? Like,

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Speaker 2: Allen ain't better than Jim Kelly. Yet Jim Kelly did

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Speaker 3: Whereas the Bengals have two quarterbacks Anderson and Boom who

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Speaker 1: Ben was great. But still to win two super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just a matter of when you're born right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of good quarterbacks tom like look like they're

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Speaker 1: I just go to text. He's Matt Couf. He said

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Speaker 2: I think the charges against the Patriots it's up for grabs.

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Speaker 2: And I think Herbert right this second, is a better

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Speaker 3: Drake May's had a better season. It might Hill MV

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Speaker 2: I would give it to May too, because the Rams

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Speaker 3: Plus Stafford's got Davonte Adams, Pukinakua, Sean McVay, great offensive coach,

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Speaker 2: Is you consider Potash a local media legend, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: Potest don't text, don't you dare? I dump that real

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Speaker 2: We got some Penguins talk coming up later on Tom

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Speaker 2: Eric Carlston the show tomorrow. Yeah, it's very exciting and

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Speaker 2: some potential big name celebrity guests to talk Steelers later

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Speaker 3: Where could you get better coverage for the Steelers game

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Speaker 3: for the Penguins anywhere than here right now? I mean,

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Speaker 1: This will be our tenth Penguins player on the show

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Speaker 2: Is awesome, which I mean, you know, I I'd rather

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Speaker 3: But if we make the playoffs, you have to take

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Speaker 3: Slip through, just like didn't Sweden just win juniors?

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Speaker 2: Dax Tom We got a bunch of sound later that

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Speaker 2: don't hear it to the same level that I do

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Speaker 2: with other teams, although Stephen A. Smith is kind of

440
00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 2: hesitated jumping on the bandwagons, saying he doesn't believe what

441
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,119
Speaker 2: he's seeing and for that matter, need to do what

442
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 2: Although to reiterate, I predict again, I think they will

443
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 2: be used despite.

444
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 3: The fact that they haven't advanced in the playoffs in

445
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 3: almost an entire decade. They still just have that mystique

446
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 3: they see nationally that logo show up in the playoff

447
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,159
Speaker 3: bracket and they just go, oh, they can make a

448
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 3: run of the Pittsburgh Steelers. This is their time of year.

449
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 3: And you're so right that that doesn't even apply that

450
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 3: much to other teams. Like have you heard that take

451
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 3: about the Packers this year? Like a definitive, like.

452
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Hey, they could get hot and watch out for the

453
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 2: pack Well, part of that is tom that did with

454
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 2: Mike Hurt that he was supposed to be the guy

455
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: that got them over the.

456
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Speaker 1: Top, but still has that in Love.

457
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,360
Speaker 3: They have a much better quarterback than the Steelers due

458
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 3: Jordan Love kicked Aaron Rodgers' ass earlier this year.

459
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 2: I think almost everybody in the playoffs has a much

460
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 2: better quarterback than the Steelers Doings, not least because he's

461
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,479
Speaker 2: forty two. I just like when I hear that they

462
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Speaker 2: can go on a run, you're telling me that a

463
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 2: forty two ye old quarterback is going to somehow wind

464
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: it up and be durable. And with Stan Houston maybe

465
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: killing him, I just don't see it. If it happens,

466
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: God bless, but I just don't see it.

467
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Speaker 1: Do you think he's better than Stroud? Right now? Rogers?

468
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Speaker 1: Right this second, going into this game.

469
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Speaker 3: I'd rather have Rodgers, I think in this kind of

470
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Speaker 3: a game, I'm leaning that way. Stroud's won a playoff

471
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Speaker 3: game before, though, so it's not like.

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Speaker 1: They don't they And.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing. People seem almost dismissive of Houston

474
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Speaker 2: and Stroud in particular. Yeah, but he's won a playoff

475
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Speaker 2: game each of the last two seasons. The Steelers ain't

476
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: won a playoff game in.

477
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Speaker 3: Eight years, and he knows exactly what the offense needs

478
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Speaker 3: to do. He plays his role so well in that

479
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 3: Houston team, like they've won nine straight.

480
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Speaker 1: I think he's held back.

481
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: And simplified because again, this is to the Steelers advantage.

482
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Speaker 1: Damiko Ryans coaches like Tomlin.

483
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Speaker 2: He believes in defense first and don't take too many chances,

484
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Speaker 2: and I think that's.

485
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Speaker 1: Held back Stroud.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there could definitely the more conservative

487
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 3: game plan that's not letting him reach his absolute height,

488
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 3: because he was undeniably trending to be maybe one of

489
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 3: the elite quarterbacks in the NFL after his rookie season.

490
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Speaker 3: I mean, he took the league by storm, and then

491
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Speaker 3: I think there is kind of a Ryan's kind of

492
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Speaker 3: not you know, maliciously, but thinks it's best for the

493
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 3: team if I can kind of put.

494
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Speaker 1: The cuffs on him a little. He thinks like Tom

495
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: a little bit. His primary protection offensively is to protect.

496
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Speaker 3: Protect the football don't like and Stroud's good at that,

497
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: he really is. But here's something working in the Steelers favor.

498
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Speaker 2: The hero of this shows as recently Christen the MVP

499
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: on defense besides Cam Hayward Joey Porter Junior.

500
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Speaker 1: He can erase Nico Collins.

501
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Speaker 2: I think remember when Collins killed them a couple of

502
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Speaker 2: years ago.

503
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Speaker 3: That is just something that you have in your arsenal

504
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: now for years to come.

505
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Speaker 1: At least.

506
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, is you can take a team's

507
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: number one weapon in the passing game just completely out

508
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 3: of it. You can delete him, you can get creative.

509
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 3: You can take a secondary weapon out completely and then

510
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: double team, triple team a team's primary weapons. It's so

511
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: crucial to have a number one corner in today's day

512
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: and age. In the NFL, they finally appear to have

513
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: one with Joey. So yeah, he could just cut the

514
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Speaker 3: head off of a Nico Colin snake.

515
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Speaker 2: And I see people dismissing Stroud's experience. You know, he's

516
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: won two playoffs, Yeah, in two years. You know he's

517
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: not you know, just just fell off the turnip truck

518
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: into a playoff game, Ohio state quarterback, big games his

519
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: whole life. Yeah, I see people saying like, if the

520
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 2: Steelers gonna lead, that kid'll fold. I'm not sure he's

521
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: a kid. I'm not sure he'll fold. And I just

522
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean again, it's part of the overreaction.

523
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: I said in my opening Monologu Tom. I have seen

524
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Speaker 2: the win over Baltimore refer to by journalists, by people

525
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Speaker 2: writing it like the Athletic in the Post Gazette as

526
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: a playoff win or as like the facto playoff win.

527
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: What it is is a fake playoff win that you

528
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Speaker 2: created by failing at Cleveland losing to what a feig

529
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Speaker 2: and thirteen team?

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Speaker 1: Is that? No, they won the last game five and

531
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Speaker 1: twelve and twelve. Now, the thought that you know C. J.

532
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: Stroud's going to come in and just fold and the

533
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 3: stage is just going to be too big for him,

534
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: it's just completely asinin. Now the crowd might be insane

535
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: and that might cause a lot of problems for him.

536
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: In the Houston offense, but he is going to come

537
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: into the game with a lot of confidence. Would you

538
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 3: be surprise Mark if Houston first play play action? Let

539
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 3: Stroud just bomb one down the field. Try to set

540
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: a tone like that, kind of like how the Steelers

541
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: when they had been you know, in that run that

542
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: they went in two thousand and five.

543
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Speaker 1: He was so quiet throughout the whole year.

544
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Speaker 3: Then that Colts game comes and bang they punch him

545
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: in the mouth with Ben Roethlisberger.

546
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Speaker 2: Did you see James Harrison and Joe Hayden on their podcast,

547
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: which really rivals the Kelsey's for two idiots bleeding just

548
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: yell at each other.

549
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yo, what did do Deck?

550
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: They think Burrow laid down to let Garrett break the

551
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Speaker 2: record about all the hate he has for the Steelers.

552
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: I just don't see that. No, I don't see the

553
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: hate that Burrow is alleged to have, and I don't

554
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: think he laid down. But let me tell you something,

555
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: James Harrison should be in the Hall of Fame, or

556
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: at least among the guys that on the cusp for

557
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers. He merits it the most, and he when

558
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: he wants to be he can be a charming guy.

559
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Like Noah Hales wrote that story where Harrison and the

560
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: guy he tackled on the field of Cleveland they sat

561
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: down for dinner. Yeah, and they went through that guy's backstorre.

562
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: He credits Harrison for getting him to wake up life

563
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: and change his life and not become an alcoholic, not

564
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Speaker 2: stay an alcoholic. And I'm not sure I believe all that.

565
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: I bet he still has a nip now and again.

566
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: But but but it was a good story, right, But

567
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: James Harrison's an ass. He's he's just just he's a bully.

568
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: He just like like, I just don't like the guy.

569
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: I respect me as a player. But every time he

570
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: opens his mind, unless he's going out of his way

571
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: to be charming, like in small sound bites, James Harris

572
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: can be a phony, like he did with the o'hiles thing,

573
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: But on that podcast where you Gotta Talk for a While,

574
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 2: he turns into the real James Harrison.

575
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Speaker 1: He's a bully and a jerk.

576
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: And he couldn't be more wrong when it comes to

577
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: this Joe Burrow and Miles Garrett thing. Miles Garrett beat

578
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown off the snap there in like half a second.

579
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: It was one of the fastest to the quarterback I've

580
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: ever seen a player do. That time was running out.

581
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: You knew Garrett felt desperate to get that. There's nothing

582
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: Burrow could do. And furthermore, people pointed out Burrow was

583
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: getting rid of the ball like half a second earlier

584
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: than he usually does, like he's a hang in the

585
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: pocket kind of guy, and he wasn't doing that, so

586
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: he was trying to get away from the Garrett.

587
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: See that's where Steeler fans are just such jerks, because

588
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, we we we dismissed the notion that Rogers

589
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: was just getting rid of the ball to void Garrett

590
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: sacking him to break the rown definitely one which I

591
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: don't think is true, but we dismissed that, whereas Burrow,

592
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously wanted to screw tj. Why here's something

593
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: I want Deebo and Joe Hayden, who wasn't that impressive

594
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: during his career here, But then again, he's a bron Joe,

595
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: if you're listening, you're really a brom Uh. These guys

596
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: just don't get and the fans out there don't get.

597
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: And like I said, if you disagree with me, there's

598
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: never been a better time to not listen. But the

599
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: world doesn't revolve wround what the Steelers do. Yes, and

600
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: certainly not everyone in the league wakes up thinking about

601
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: trying to screw TJ.

602
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Watt exactly. Okay, you know what they think about TJ.

603
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: Watt. You know what the league really thinks about him?

604
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 2: Not as good as Garrett never won a playoff game.

605
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: That is TJ. Watt in a nutshell?

606
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: Do you think that ever crossed Burrow's mind even one

607
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: second during that game against the Browns?

608
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Though, I wonder what t J.

609
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: Watt would think about this if Garrett broke the sack

610
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 3: against me.

611
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: But again that's Harrison and Hayden, Hayden Harrison being a jerk,

612
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 2: Hayden being a phony Steeler.

613
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: He's really a Brown.

614
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if I could ask James Harrison, one question

615
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: will be why are you doing a podcast with the brown?

616
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: That's the only question that needs to be asked. Yeah,

617
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: the color of excrement. He is a Brown.

618
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: But like they think that that's all that matters, is

619
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Speaker 2: that the whole world revolves around the.

620
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Steelers, especially the whole football world.

621
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Speaker 3: You know what's funny, I've seen a lot of people

622
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: and the priest with the Holy Water, Oh God. In

623
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: reference to Garrett breaking the sack record, I see a

624
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: lot of people just mentioning Strahan and like barely even

625
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: remembering that Wa.

626
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: Wa was a part of that as well.

627
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: The real sack kings Mark Gastoneau at sixteen games. No,

628
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: the real sack kings Deacon Jones. I saw Deacon Jones

629
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Speaker 2: play I'm old.

630
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

631
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Speaker 2: First off, if you put him in an octagon with

632
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: all the other sack pretenders Gastono, TJ. Watt, and now Garrett,

633
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: this is all guys in their physical prime, right.

634
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Yes, Deacon Jones is the guy who walks out.

635
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: I will say that Reggie White, who had the twenty

636
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: one sacks aswell games, Reggie could have given Deacon a

637
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: run for his money. And even though he's not in

638
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: this conversation, I don't know what his numbers were sacked wise,

639
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: because again the stat wasn't official. Then me and Joe

640
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: Green kills everybody. Yeah, no question, and that includes you,

641
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: James Harrison, without question about that. Is the sack record

642
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: in general an overrated one. Like do people really care

643
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: about who's the sack? As I've said repeatedly, I think,

644
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: especially in today's day and age, but even then as well,

645
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: the sack is the most overrated playing football, especially now

646
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: that it's so easy to get you yards back with

647
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: the high tech offense. Is a sack on first and

648
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: second down means just about nothing? I will say, though,

649
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: given the ability to get yards, a sack on third

650
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: and fourth dot really does.

651
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: Mean a lot.

652
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, without question, they should have like a super sack

653
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: stat or something like that where it's like, if this

654
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: sack got you off the field or forced to punch,

655
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: you get a little extra bone.

656
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: We need less stats, Tom, because no, no, I'm being serious,

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Speaker 2: because there are too many stats that we use to

658
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Speaker 2: invent a guy being better or worse than he is.

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Speaker 1: That's especially true in base baseball, no question, you can

660
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Speaker 1: make any player, you can find a stat that proves

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Speaker 1: that your guy don't suck. O'Neil Cruz is a perfect

662
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Speaker 1: example for that, and he sucks. One oh five to nine.

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Speaker 1: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six. Pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It is a super cool DX at one nine.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be clouding today with rain developing a high

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Speaker 3: of fifty two.

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Speaker 1: It's the Mark Maddon Free Game Show on DX.

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Speaker 2: The pregame Show, brought to us by our good friends.

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Speaker 2: We still call it the pregame Show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's up to you. That's a strictly you decision.

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Speaker 3: What do we go for the trifecta? For today's trifecta?

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Speaker 3: Market looks like we have ourselves our job openings in

675
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Speaker 3: the NFL. I don't think there's gonna be another surprise

676
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: opening coming. As far as the head coach is concerned.

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Speaker 3: I guess, would you say.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is still up in the air a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They'd handle that with a little bit more class than

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Speaker 3: just firing him right away. Harbaugh, I bet they keep him.

681
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna keep him too, So I think

682
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Speaker 3: we're all stating it.

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Speaker 2: It depends how much Lamar and Harbaugh aren't getting along

684
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Speaker 2: and how much Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Is willing to state that to management.

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Speaker 3: Here are my three best job openings right now for

687
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Speaker 3: the NFL, though in ascending order. Number three, I'm gonna

688
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: go with the New York Giants. I bet people would

689
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Speaker 3: have them higher than three on their list. I just

690
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: don't trust Jackson Dart. He's not gonna change his style.

691
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: There's a terrible job, like if I were Tom win

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00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: Er Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: The fans don't want any job at that one, and

694
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: I agree, I don't trust Jackson Dart.

695
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: But that's why people are gonn talk that job up

696
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: is because of Jackson Dart being there. Number two for me,

697
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna go with the Vegas Raiders. That might

698
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: surprise people. But you have the number one overall pick.

699
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: That's a ton of good.

700
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: Black Bowers, and you got gent at running back. Max

701
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Crosby on defense unless he wants up because they shut

702
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: him down to make sure they finished Dad last. But

703
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: him being pissy about that, well, it's typical Jim teacher meathead.

704
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Speaker 1: As no question.

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Speaker 3: If I'm a coach, I just ignore that and I

706
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: come in and say I'm the new coach. I'm gonna

707
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: convince Max Crosby that things are gonna be different. And

708
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: this Mendoza kid from.

709
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Speaker 2: Indian a new coach. I come in, Stay, Max Crosby,

710
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Speaker 2: you got a contract. Yes, shut up, Tom.

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00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: This Mendoza kid in Indiana looks really good too. If

712
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Speaker 3: you're going to take him as the number one overall

713
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Speaker 3: pick to.

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Speaker 1: Be your quarterback.

715
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Speaker 3: Who's their quarterback now the Raiders, it's Gino Smith or

716
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Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: I'd go with Picket.

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Speaker 3: The number one job though, I think has to be

719
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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons. You were eight and nine last year,

720
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: a game four game winning streak, and they fire the coach.

721
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: Obviously the team didn't quit on him.

722
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Speaker 3: Now maybe if you wanted to say, oh, he didn't

723
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Speaker 3: play Kirk Cousins until later in the season and we

724
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Speaker 3: would have made the playoffs. A Kirk ba no an

725
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Speaker 3: ownership draft, Yeah, I mean you got a player that's

726
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: the owner ownership definitely in that moment, you know what

727
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: I mean. I mean Pennis got hurt, right he did,

728
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: and they probably they probably would have kept.

729
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Playing Penix had he not been hurt, right right. You

730
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: know why, because they're trying to move forward. They're actually

731
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: looking beyond the next game. I don't hate it. It's

732
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: to their detriment that Cousins had to play clause Penix

733
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Speaker 2: got hurt. Whether they almost made the playoffs or not. Yeah,

734
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Speaker 2: I'd want to coach be John Robinson for sure.

735
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Speaker 3: John Robinson Drake London's a top tier wide receiver. They

736
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: really just have to figure out the quarterback. Maybe Penix

737
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: is still the guy. But other than that, the Falcons

738
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: are ready to win. Uh what other job openings are there?

739
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: Is that you got the Browns. I just there's I

740
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Speaker 3: think some attracted defense at a high draft. That's what

741
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You don't think there's anybody that hired d On to

743
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Speaker 1: coach Schador? Do you?

744
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: If this was last year? I think that we'd have

745
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: a lot more conversation there.

746
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: But I think they will get and they think, Okay,

747
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: maybe he's okay, but no better than okay?

748
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: Correct, And I just don't think going to go down

749
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: that pat the brown Like, You're right, great defense, best

750
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: defensive player in football, you're inheriting, and you've got great

751
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: draft picks moving forward to law draft capital.

752
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Speaker 1: That ownership medaling would really bother me. Though, Who do.

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Speaker 2: You think the best candidate is that's available right now

754
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: for a coaching gig?

755
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, head coaching.

756
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: It It's obvious.

757
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of heat on Twitter because I

758
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: said on Twitter and on this show Tom that I

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Speaker 2: would fire Tom Win and hire Stefanski.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. I'm not saying that to get heat.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that because I really would fire Tom Win

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Speaker 2: to get Stefanski. He's a modern day offensive mind who

763
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: was shackled by the mechinations of ownership at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: If he would have kept Baker, they might have won

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Speaker 2: the division this year with that defense, but ownership screwed

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Speaker 2: it up. And he's an offensive coach, Tom who still

767
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Speaker 2: had the best defense in the league. That that's the

768
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Speaker 2: kind of coach I want, And I'm serious. I would

769
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Speaker 2: fire Tom when to hire him, And if I'm Stefanski,

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Speaker 2: I don't say the only job of those available now.

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Speaker 2: I would wait it out if I'm him, unless Atlanta

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Speaker 2: called me.

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Speaker 3: I think about Atlanta. He's been linked to the Giants.

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00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: He's been linked to the Raiders to.

775
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Speaker 2: Make Vegas overpay because there is some promise there. But

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00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: I'd still make them overpay. And I wouldn't even take

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Speaker 2: a call from the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He is the one, though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's linked to basically every team that that's

780
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Speaker 3: open right now, and the narrative already seems to be

781
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 3: getting started with The Browns were stupid to let him go.

782
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: They have a proven commodity. They barely ever get those,

783
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Speaker 3: especially at the head coaching position. Don't let that guy

784
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: walk out your door. Like the Browns today should be

785
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: feeling really nervous that they like see all the reports

786
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Speaker 3: are Kevin Stefanski link to the Raiders, link to the Cardinals,

787
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Speaker 3: link to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Right, did they fire the guy everybody wants him right away? Yeah?

789
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Speaker 2: I think that he's gonna benefit by having been fired

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00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: by them.

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Speaker 3: I think so too, But he's got a land in

792
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: the right spot, Like which would you fire Tom Win?

793
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Speaker 3: To har Stefanski, I don't know. I don't know about

794
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: that one. I'm hesitating.

795
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: How could you not? I don't know. I'm just hesitating.

796
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: There.

797
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: He's a two time coach of the Year. But what

798
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: does that really mean? Though to that's usually just an overat.

799
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: I means he's a better coach than Tomlin. Okay, fair enough.

800
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: I just don't know if I would make that movie.

801
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: I am so mad still that Tom Win is tied

802
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 2: with Noel for career wins I mean playoffs, though, I'm

803
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: like livid about it. You heard the playoff winning percentage?

804
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: Way different? Yes, let me let me find it here.

805
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: Tom Win at six sixty seven, excuse me, Noel at

806
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: six sixty seven, Tom Win at four twenty.

807
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: One, and Noel built the Steelers.

808
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: It was easier to keep it together because there was

809
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: no free agence. But he had to build it. He

810
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: had to start it, no question. And you know, you

811
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: know what made Chuck such a great coach too, Among

812
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: so many things, he had great assistance. He wasn't scared

813
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: by guys who knew as much as him, and not

814
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: just the assistant coaches, but Bill Nunn and Art Rooney

815
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: Junior and Dan Rooney.

816
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like like.

817
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: The coach now dating back to when Cower won his

818
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: power struggle with Tom Donahoe the GM back then. And

819
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: as much as I'm a fan of Bill, he should

820
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: not have won that power struggle. I would I would

821
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: have gone with Donahoe to make the decisions regarding personnel

822
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: in perpetuity.

823
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: He's that good of a football man.

824
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: But but Chuck Noll, everybody had input and sometimes he

825
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: would acquiesce to what somebody else thought. I mean, he's

826
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: the best coach of the three we've had since sixty nine. Yeah,

827
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: he was the one who took the most input because

828
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't scared, He wasn't intimidated by other people who

829
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: knew football.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the mark of a truly great coach too? Like,

831
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: don't all great coaches take input like that?

832
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 2: I think so, And I think by the way, kyr

833
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: was better in that regard than Tomlin taking input. I

834
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: just think I just well, as indicated by the great

835
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: assistant coaches he had, yes, and Tomlin ran him out

836
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: of time and.

837
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: Ran BA out of areans. But Coward just the thing

838
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: with Donahoe.

839
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: If I were Dan Rooneybeck that I would have sat

840
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: the two of them down in a room and just

841
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: made them hash it out and say, you're both staying,

842
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: you're both under contract, you got to figure it out.

843
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: But but Coward just won't budge on that. And that's

844
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: one of the few criticisms I have a Bill.

845
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: Is that he wanted that power struggle and he wouldn't

846
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: let it go, had to see it through where he

847
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: would make the decisions personnel.

848
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: Well, well, what made it.

849
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: Even worse was the power carried over to the coach

850
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 2: from him leaving and tom Win coming in. It didn't

851
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: take tom Win long to just pretty much get final

852
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: say on on everything. By the way, Tom I was

853
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: talking earlier about the Hayden and Harrison podcast. We might

854
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: have a sound bite from that later, them accusing Joe

855
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: Burrow of laying down.

856
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: To give Garrett the sack record.

857
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: But I was speaking with one of our executives about

858
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: that segment. I probably shouldn't say his name, but it

859
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: was John Mashidah, and he said accurately, we were talking

860
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: about the Kelsey podcast.

861
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: He's listened to the Kelsey podcast.

862
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: And John said, whenever they have a big name guest on,

863
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: it sounds like McCartney being interviewed by Chris Farley on,

864
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: which is true. They just they just pretty much hung

865
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: the rectum, remember that, humidly NonStop And that was awesome.

866
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: That's that. Oh that's one of the funniest all time skits.

867
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Speaker 1: When Paul's like, you're doing You're doing great, man, don't worry.

868
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: It made me think Tom and not that I shy

869
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: away from giving myself credit, but don't you have to

870
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: agree that in terms of people doing this in this city,

871
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: certainly I'm the most well rounded like that. I can

872
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: talk about stuff way off the board and know what

873
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about be interesting and uh, you know, like

874
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: it got me thinking about McCartney's concert here and how

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Speaker 2: great that was and some things I could say about that.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I just want to make clear

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Speaker 2: to everybody, if you gave me a choice between the

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Speaker 2: Steelers winning the Super Bowl this year or me interviewing

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Speaker 2: McCartney on this program for ninety seconds, then again, we

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Speaker 2: could have done that with Geezer Butler.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never said who it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the guest we almost had who just

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Speaker 2: wanted to come on into a plug for for Stell

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Speaker 2: City Conn. I can't believe I said that. Garsh darn it,

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Speaker 2: but I would pick interview McCartney over anybody.

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Speaker 1: You think five minutes no over the Steelers winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Come on, Yeah, it's Paul freaking McCartney. Are

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Speaker 1: you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Lift Forever? Yes, me will never fade away. And that

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Speaker 2: shows how long we're on Todam. I just started singing

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Speaker 2: Coming Up, which was a hit for him, but you know,

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Speaker 2: among his lesser like from solo, And when I saw

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Speaker 2: McCartney and Pittsburgh, you know what song I wanted to

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Speaker 2: play most coming Up? All those Beatles hits, you know,

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Speaker 2: But I said, okay, that song, you don't hear it

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Speaker 2: all the time and it really works good live again.

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Speaker 2: How well rounded am I?

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Speaker 3: I would take the Steelers not making the super Bowl

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Speaker 3: just for me to answer the phone and say hello,

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Speaker 3: mister McCartney, thanks for calling in into doing this interview

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Speaker 3: with Mark Mattins.

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Speaker 1: Would let you do that? I'd answered the phone myself.

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Speaker 2: By the way Back in two thousand and one, I

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Speaker 2: was given a rather unusual choice for those who remember.

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Speaker 2: Between during as Mark editing, somebody asked me if I

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Speaker 2: would trade a Steelers playoff loss to New England for

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Speaker 2: a Liverpool win over Manchester United, which also occurred to

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Speaker 2: this same day, and the answer I gave cannot be repeated.

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