1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back our number two Cincy three sixty, 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thank you for listening along, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 3: not only today but all week. And if you listen enough, 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 3: you know what the start of our number two is 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: on Friday. It's our guy Charlie Goldsmith taking time out 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: of his schedule to join us. I'm sure Charlie's schedule 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: right now Austin is about what dinner places he's gonna 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: want to frequent when he's in Arizona here soon sure, 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: getting ready for spring training? I'm sure is Charlie Goldsmith 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: joining us right now? What's up, Charlie? 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I'm booking reservations, but I'm thinking about it. Yeah, 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: spring training definitely on my mind. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: I would imagine with the weather coming this weekend, it's 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: even more on your mind to get out of weather 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: like this. What are your plans for the weekend with 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: the uh, the snow that's that's projected to come to 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: the city. 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Well, I should be, you know, clear enough weatherwise to 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: go to the Zager game tomorrow afternoon, and I thowt 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: that got moved up a bit, but that'll be in 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: my plans. And then set back on Sunday and watching football. 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: I like it. 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: I like it. Before we get into some uh some baseball. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: Who do you like this weekend? From the AFC and 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: NFC standpoint. 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: I hate to just be the guy who's carried Sidham 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: game set match, but I look at that and I'm 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: gonna pick the Patriots, even though I think that's actually 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: a really flawed team who I don't think is a 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't call them a contender, but yet here they 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: are now the favorites to make it to the super Bowl. 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: And then the Seahawks have been truly my favorite team 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: in the league since July. I could go on and 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: on and on about how I like everything. Uh you 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: know what they're about, except for for Donald's turnovers, but 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: I think they can work past that. 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: I saw someone say that they expect jess Mentor to 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: have a similar impact in Baltimore than to the one 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: that Mike McDonald had in Seattle. I know you did 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of research on this. Once Jesse Mentor 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: was announced yesterday. What do you make of that higher 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: and how it affects the Bengals. 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: So, first of all, from Baltimore's perspective, talk about the 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: one that got away and kind of trying to keep 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: as I do around the division of polls on how 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: kind of Baltimore feels. There's a lot of regret about 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: McDonald leaving the door, and I've talked to people inside 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: peakor stadium about this. There hasn't been a defense that's 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: been tougher for the Bengals to face than Mike McDonald's 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 2: Ravens led defense in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: There's a reason why the Bengals needed Sam Hubbard to 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: score a ninety nine yard touchdown to win that playoff game, 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: and that's Mike McDonald. So Minter does some similar stuff, 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: a creative defensive mind who will have to keep building 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: and we'll face all new challenges as well, but kind 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: of that similar tree which challenges the Bengals. 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: So much talk about coaching and coordinators and here in Cincinnati, 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: Zach Robinson gets the job in Tampa where Dan Pitcher 61 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: was interviewing, where Brian Callahan was interviewing, do you foresee 62 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: a change at all, because you got to imagine Dan Pitcher, 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: if he's going to want to become a head coach, 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: wants to call place somewhere. Maybe that's not this upcoming year. 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: But do you think there's ever a conversation with with 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: the Bengals and Zach Taylor and Dan Pittro on who's 67 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: going to be actually calling the plays or do they 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: just keep things status quo tot this. 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Point, Here's how I view it. Zach wants Dan to 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: do what he he wants to do right by Dan 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: for everything the Pitcher's done in Cincinnati. I haven't talked 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: to Dan about this. I haven't heard these words specifically, 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: but my read on the situation is this that Dan 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: Pitcher wants to be a head coach. More power to him, 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: you know, hope he gets that it's not his dream 76 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: isn't to become a play calling offensive coordinator. And the 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: problem that he faces that Brian Callahan faced, and that 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: every offensive coach has walked in the building a Paycorse 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Fadiums faced, is offensive coaches in Cincinnati get no credit 80 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: and respect league wide. Nobody gets promotions except for Brian Callahan, 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 2: and that was after Jake Browning looked like a standout starter. 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: So what I think is that Pitcher would look at 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: it and say, I have a better chance to become 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: a head coach as a play caller in Tampa than 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: I even could as a play caller in Cincinnati if 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: they made that change. And again I haven't heard that directly, 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: but knowing kind of some of the behind the scenes 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: coaching stuff and how that's been viewed around the league, 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: I bet that something just as simple as oh, let's 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: just have Pitcher called the plays doesn't get him any 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: closer to his ultimate goal, which is becoming a head coach. 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: So just giving him the play calling just to do 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: him a favor would kind of be a moot point. 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: What do you think the reason for that is? Is 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: it Joe Burrow? Is it Zach Taylor? Is it just 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: the fact that they're in Cincinnati that those coaches don't 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: get credit. 98 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: I think it's Joe and the fact that he is 99 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: chasing and Higgins as well. It's a system set up, 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: and I think it's very well set up for star 101 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: players to be in position to win one on one. 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: That's like, for example, the biggest difference between Zach Taylor's 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: system and Ben Johnson's system. Back and Ben have similar trees. 104 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: They work together for a while, but Ben Johnson's talks 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: about I don't believe in fifty fifty balls. A lot 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: of it more is steaming guys open as opposed to 107 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: putting guys in position to win. And so when guys win, 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: you focus on the guys winning. But you know, the 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco experience shows that that there's still a lot 110 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: going on that is putting these guys in position to win. 111 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: So you've seen that with Callahan, with Pitcher, and then 112 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: the fact that, aside from one Troy Walters interview for 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: it would have been a bad Texans job at the time, 114 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: you have seen no Bengals offensive coach anywhere interview for 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: any promotion in a way that's been reported. 116 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: Charlie Let's switch gears to the Reds, and it's been 117 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: a unique offseason, I think, to say the least, from 118 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: the interest and the offer to Kyle Schwarber, to where 119 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: they landed with the players that they got to hearing 120 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: that they tried to make Ellie the highest paid Red ever, 121 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: to what they've added to the pitching staff, to the 122 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: conversations that I thought with Lance McCallister and Terry Francona 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: were unique in the sense of kind of identifying they're 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: not going to be a huge offensive team, but they're 125 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: also not going to be as aggressive on the base 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: pass and what Chris Valaka had to say. And then 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: you fast forward. Now there's interest in Suarez, there's interest 128 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: in Austin Hayes, but this TV deal could be holding 129 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: things up. What do you make of the latest from 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal that the Reds are interested or want to 131 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: be in on those two, but the TV deal may 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: be holding that up. 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: We'll start here. The TV deal fell through for lack 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: of a better word, or like all that news came 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: down the day before the Reds paid six and a 136 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: half million dollars for Pierce Johnson. So yet the TV 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: stuff has an impact. But honestly, I was expecting that 138 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: it would immediately freeze the Reds from a transactional perspective, 139 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: and it didn't. And the Piers Johnson move showed that 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: now Suarez, you can take the TV deal completely out 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: of it. You know, they could have a you know, 142 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: they could be on FanDuel for the next decade. And 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: with what we know about the Red payroll situation. They'll 144 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: ownership will tell the front office that they don't have 145 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: the money to fit in for what they're willing to 146 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: spend on their payroll, the salary that I think gave, 147 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: and your Suarez will land to make a move like 148 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Suarez happened. I still think the Reds would need to 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: make another subtraction to the payroll based on the fact 150 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: that ownership told the front office payroll in twenty six 151 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: will be the same as it was in twenty twenty five. Now, 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Hayes is a nice middle round there. I checked in 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: last week. I know the Reds have been talking to Hayes. 154 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: I know he's a fit. I know they see him 155 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: as a fit and like what he brings to the table. 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: I know he's not going to make anyone feel like 157 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: the Reds won this offseason, but that would be a 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: clean fit that the Reds have expressed interested. 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, how does auheoz make any sense? 160 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: That's a great question, and I'm kind of nervous to 161 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: say this because you can just keep it extremely simple. 162 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: Reds get big home run hitter good like, I agree 163 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: with that, and they're trying to hit more homers this year. 164 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: Chris Blake told me that the front office has expressed. 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: That as well. 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: But there's also a reason why Gino's still on the market. 167 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: And I like Geno and again, get the guy who 168 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: hits home or if you can get it on a 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: value deal. I think that's good. But he's a bad 170 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: third based defender now, so are you teaching him first? 171 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 2: Are you signing him to be a full time DH? 172 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: And the strikeout rate is very alarming. That's a reason 173 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: why why Geno's still a free age. I know they're 174 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: right love Gino. I know they're looking to improve their offense. 175 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: If they can make it fit and a thing that 176 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: makes perfect sense, I think the right would be interested, 177 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: but Geno is is frankly a flawed free agent, which 178 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: is why he is still a freege. 179 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: Do do you believe last time we spoke to Gavin, 180 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: Lux deal just happened and Retzfest was getting ready to go, 181 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: and you kind of felt the Lux deal feels like 182 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: they're going to make some type of move offensively. Do 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: you still feel that with this Reds offseason, with where 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: things are at. 185 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: One and the million dollar question is will it be 186 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 2: a move that satisfies everybody? But they are speaking about 187 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: this as if it's an incomplete roster one and two, 188 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: if they broke camp like right now today, then you'd 189 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: have like Tyler Callahan or Michael Tollia on the opening 190 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: day roster in terms of a twenty six man roster projection, 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: and that's not They know that they would like to 192 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: have more on the roster than that, so they're speaking 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: about it publicly and privately as an unfinished, incomplete roster 194 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: that they plan to act. 195 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: I know it's a lot of unknown Charlie. How much 196 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: is going through organizations across baseball? You know, for the Reds, 197 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: they're worrying about the TV deal and what that looks like. 198 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: But obviously the lockout is looming. Obviously it's becoming more 199 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: and more of a story. How much does the lockout 200 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: have to play and the unknowns of what happens to 201 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: those contracts, what happens if works stopped. How much does 202 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: that play into teams either maybe wanting to go all 203 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: in or not wanting to go all in, understanding what 204 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: could be coming in another year. 205 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: It's something that I expected to see become a trend 206 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: this off season, and I asked kind of around the 207 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: league about it at the DM meetings back in November, 208 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: but it really hasn't. Like the only thing I've felt 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: the lockout impacts from a free agent perspective on the 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: market this winter, and I believe it was Cody Bellinger 211 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: has a clause in his cup on track where if 212 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: there's miss time due to a lockout, his opt out 213 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: gets pushed back another year. There's been stuff like that, 214 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: but like look at Boba sheet deal, he's set to 215 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: opt out during a potential lockout. Like so, even though 216 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm very concerned about the state of baseball in twenty 217 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: twenty seven, it's something I've been hearing about considerably since 218 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: early in the twenty twenty four season, and it could really, 219 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: you know, hurt a team like the Reds to the 220 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: last time there's a lockout, they started a huge rebuild. 221 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: It's something that from a Red perspective, when you look 222 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: at the movies they've made and haven't made, and from 223 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: a league wide perspective, you're really not seeing on a 224 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: tangible basis impact decision making. 225 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: I think there's there's obviously two sides to the coin here. 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: You have the Dodgers spending just an ungodly amount of money. 227 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: You have a team like the Brewers trading away their 228 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: best picture because they won't pay him. I think both 229 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: are bad for baseball. When you look ahead and to 230 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: the line out, and let's say that that Charlie Goldsmith 231 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: was the commissioner and he got to choose how baseball operates. 232 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: What what changes would you make? Would it be a 233 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: salary cap, would it be a salary floor? What if 234 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: Charlie the commissioner was in charge, how would you fix 235 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the issues? 236 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: With me? 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: What it's towards. I think you should be a commissioner. 238 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: True. What's most important to me is a change that 239 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: we've seen actually in the NBA. What's most important to 240 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: me is that a team like the Reds can look 241 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: itself in the mirror and say we have a shot 242 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 2: to keep Ellie de la Cruz for his entire career. 243 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: That's what's the most That's what's most important to me. 244 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: What can you do to support teams that are trying 245 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: to spend a godly amount of or an ungodly amount 246 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 2: of money for a player who's one of the best things. 247 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: I think that's good for the game. I think that's 248 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: good for teams having identities. I think that's good for 249 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: fans buying in so some thing you saw in the NBA. 250 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: In the NBA, they did it with the supermacs. I 251 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see max contracts in that 252 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: way in baseball. But what I would do is some 253 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: ideas from a couple cbas to go in the NBA 254 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: some version of an amnesty clause where he can get 255 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: out from under a deal. Uh once a decade. This 256 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: was the thing in the NBA a while back. So 257 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: I don't think this will happen ever, But if the 258 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 2: Reds are giving Elie de la Cruz five hundred million, 259 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden his career dies, well 260 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: then you can at least get out from under that 261 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: deal and there's less risk that could kill a small 262 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: market team when you invest that kind of money in 263 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: a player. And another maybe less extreme idea would be 264 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: the NBA has it's a wave and stretch, So if 265 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: you have Jamer Candelario, you cut him, you can stretch 266 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: that money out over five ten years to still give 267 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: you more financial finexibility in the short term. So the 268 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: whole point is a big contract. 269 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 3: Kill you, Charlie, I do it ask you? You mentioned 270 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: going to the game tomorrow, Rick Patino's going for win 271 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: number nine hundred. I don't know how much of Xavier 272 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: you've had a chance to watch, but it feels like 273 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: every time I flip them on, they're getting better under 274 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: Richard Patino. I think you can look at at the 275 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: Creighton game. Creighton beat him by forty one at the 276 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: Centas Center and it takes last second heroics to beat 277 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: Xavier earlier this week. How impressive or how impressed are 278 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: you with what Richard Patinos has been able to do 279 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: in a short amount of time. 280 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Incredibly so. Like their first couple games of the year, well, 281 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: I thought the identity of that team was going to 282 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: be was they'd run the offense to point guard Roddy Anderson, 283 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: and then they'd be kind of leaning a lot defensively 284 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: and in the pick and roll game on Robinson, and 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: Robinson doesn't play now. And Roddy Anderson he's he's out, 286 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: he's up and down, he's had hot, but he's a 287 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: very inconsistent player. The fact that Patino, and this has 288 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: been more documented, has been able to retreate the identity 289 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: of the team several times over the course of the year. 290 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: They're seeing worve eachen and get more involved. You saw 291 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Malikovich be the future guy, but then he got very 292 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: very cool, so they kind of went away from him 293 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: a bit and lean more into small ball lineups. And 294 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: Trey Carroll's another inconsistent player, but they have ideas to 295 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: feature him when he's hot and ideas to maybe he 296 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: they're big in a different way when he's cold. And 297 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: when you look at improvement, like borve Eachin and frankly, 298 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: he's my kind of guy, like he's a blue guy. 299 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: He's consistent, but then you know, all right's gotten much better. 300 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: He's gone on more, went from a guy who couldn't 301 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: make a basket to a confidence scorer right now, a 302 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: Carroll is on an upward trajectory. They're all defending better, 303 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: even though none of them individually maybe they are good defenders. 304 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: I couldn't be more impressed with just how that team 305 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: is trending for a team that is did below average 306 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: Big East. 307 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: Lastly, the Bearcats the winners of two in a row 308 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: last weekend, beating number two Iowa State. They fall on 309 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: the road, and I don't think the score was indicative 310 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: as to what that game was for the night against Arizona. 311 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: But a similar question to you, what have you seen 312 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: from the Bearcats in the last couple that maybe gives 313 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: you some confidence going forward. 314 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: I had no problem with how they played in Arizona. 315 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: You're on the road against the number one team in 316 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: the country and the team that on top of that 317 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: was a bad matchup when you look at how and 318 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: I was really impressed with Arizona's center kind of a 319 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: finesse Bay who is also incredibly tough, Like that's just 320 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: a tough matchup for the big that you see has. 321 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: So they did what they could do there, But just 322 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: the fact that your answers for perimeter shooting are still 323 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: a mystery. What I've liked the most recently is they've 324 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: leaned really as much as they can into just the 325 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: idea of ball pressure being their identity and running even 326 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: more offensively through their two guards, even though they didn't 327 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: really do anything against Arizona, Like, I feel like they 328 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: know what they're trying to do. It's just they're still 329 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: not finding answers to their biggest flocks. 330 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: Charlie goldsmith Man, you are the man. Enjoy the weekend, 331 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: stay safe with with everything happened and what's the easiest 332 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: way folks can follow along with everything you got going on. 333 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: Charlie Shockboard on Substack on Fox nineteen, you get the 334 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: power Stack podcast. 335 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: That's right, firing back up. 336 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: It's an exceeding time of year. 337 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Love it. 338 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: Thanks Charlie man, have a great weekend. Thanks so much. 339 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: Now, thanks you, I see you. 340 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: I think Charlie's for sure a sled riding guy. 341 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: For sure. 342 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: For sure. 343 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of the winter weather that's coming 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: this weekend, Xavier has made an official announcement that the 345 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: women's game against Georgetown tomorrow will move and start at 346 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 3: nine to thirty AM, and the men's basketball game will 347 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: now move up to one thirty PM. Verus Saint John's 348 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: okay that way, if Rick Patino wins and he doesn't 349 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: want to leave his team behind, they can probably still 350 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: get out of town. Win number nine hundred at stake 351 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: for Rick Patino tomorrow. All we have at stake going forward. 352 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: Now is your talkbacks next on the ESBN fifteen thirty 353 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports station. 354 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: Now, here's your