1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: He asked me a good question during the break, But 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, would he ever coach again? I get to 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: thinking about that. I right off the bat, I would 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: have said no. But then, you know, you figure one 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: of these G five or I guess I know G nine, 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: whatever they are now schools, somebody will get desperate enough 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: to hire that sort of And I hesitate to use 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: the word pedigree there, but he did win enough, you know, 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of games that they will or at least 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: that brand that they feel like will excite or rejuvenate 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: their program, some kind of minor you know that the 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: the Sacramento States of the world, somebody like that. I 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: would have said, I would have said that Bobby Patrino 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: would never coach again after the motorcycle and yet that 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: man has had job after job. Yeah. I said Urban 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Meyer would never coach again after some stuff that went 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: down at Florida and he got promoted to Ohio State 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: and kept on going. 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. But yes, So here here's I viewed those guys differently. 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: I think, I think from from Brian Kelly standpoint, comparing 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: him to Bobby Patrino, I think most football people look 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: Bobby Petrino and say, Okay, you can form whatever opinion 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: you want to in his personal life, and we all 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: we all have the right to judge. 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Him on that he did some stupid things. 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: But in terms of a football coach, you know that 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: dude knows offense. I am absolutely convinced on that Brian 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: Kelly doesn't. I don't view him the same way in 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: terms of his offensive acumen. I'm certain you know he's 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: a good coach, but he made so much money in 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: the buyout. Although there's still fighting to believe at LSU, 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 3: I think you'll have opportunity. 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: But it's a matter of whether he can. 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: Sort of gather himself and come to the realization like, hey, 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: if I want to coach, if coaching is in my 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: blood and this is what I do, and I'm going 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: to coach for another ten years and then call it today, 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: all right, I have two offers and both these offers 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: are FCS or FBS. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: So I just I don't know that I see him 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: because he he was a Grand Valley State for a 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: long long time and had a good run, had a 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: good run there, So that that will be that will 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: be interesting when when you think of when you think 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: of who'd you mentioned from Florida or meer See. I 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: don't remember, at least publicly, hearing too much about him 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: at Florida. I think privately maybe you were privy to 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: sometimes and. 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't really want to get into too much of that, 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: but the later issues that Urban Meyer that did go 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: public are reflective of some of those issues at the time. 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: So my point being that that maybe there were people 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: that were in positions to make decisions that were like me, 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: didn't hear a lot of what was going on in Gainesville, Florida, 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: except the fact that they were winning a houseload full 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: of games. 58 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: But that's interesting. Yeah, that's it. 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: And I think Urban pro probably with how the Jacksonville 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: thing worked out. I think he's now probably come with 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: the realization that he's doing TV and doing you know, 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: podcast and doing all that. 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: It's probably far less stressful than coaching was. 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: And he did have some he did have some health 65 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: concerns certainly in coaching multiple times. 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Yes, But yeah, I just it was fascinating to me 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: there are guys you's like, this guy will never coach again, 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: and then you know, there you go. I never thought 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: that Adam Gase would get a second shot at head coaching, 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: and there he did. And now he's back. 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: On the reap tour. 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: He's over there with the Chargers on the Mike McDaniels side. 73 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: Of the ball, the first team higher. 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, really interesting, high almost a polar opposite of what 75 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel does offensively. 76 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean for me to think, and I 77 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: like Goose a lot of gotten to know him a 78 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: little bit more since he I mean he was he 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: was out at the Broncos facility quite a bit this spring. 80 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: Father in law, that's right, that's right, so he was 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: in town. I think he's a good football man, even 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: though he never never played football. He's got a he's 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: got a really good sense of offense. But to think 84 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: of Adam Gasee and Jim Harbaugh sitting in a room 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: together with with two sort of you know, what kind 86 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: of personalities would they have? 87 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Eclectic? Maybe, yeah, I'm not sure. 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: Etcentric. 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: That would be one where you you would hope that 90 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: Hard Knocks could somehow have a camera in the room. 91 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: You kind of want, don't you like? The Chargers this 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: year between Mike McDaniel, Adam Gasee and Jim Harbor and 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: McDaniel's so laid back right that I think that he 94 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: could get along with anybody. But like that room in 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: and of itself and those person ye, I'm so here 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: for that hard knocks. 97 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: I think Mike McDaniel honestly is a really good run 98 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: game coach. Like if you go look at some of 99 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: his stuff when he was with Kyle before he became 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: the head coach of the Dolphins, I mean, it was 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: really good and the Dolphins running game was really good 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: at at times early in that in that tenure, I 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: think what hurt him was just his overall presentation. He 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: came in when they were winning, and they won the 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: first couple of years at a reasonable rate, then the 106 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: presentation was thought to be quirky, and hey. 107 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: He's his own man. 108 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: This is kind of unique and maybe a little bit 109 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: appealing that you have an NFL coach that is just 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: different than all the other NFL coaches and coach speak. 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: But if that's fine, But if you're going to be 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: that guy. 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: That steps out of the circle, steps out of the norm, 114 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: a different presentation, different way of talking, different look. 115 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: Then you have to win. 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: Once you start losing doing that, then your presentation becomes 117 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: fodder for those who ultimately play a hand a significant 118 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: role in whether or not you survive or not. 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, I almost worked for the same employer once. 120 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: After we'd all got fired down there in Tampa two 121 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, I went to try to go do some, 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: uh some media public relations work for the then California 123 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Redwoods of the UFL, where Mike McDaniel Denny Green was 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: the head coach and uh sacrament where relocated to Sacramento 125 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: the next year. But I also know they turned the 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: job down because I didn't want to go out there 127 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: for the salary that they were barely offering. I didn't 128 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: want to go do that for that sort of poultry 129 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: amount of money. And uh, but Mike McDaniel was the 130 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: was then assistant coach on that staff with Anny Green 131 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: in the UFL before getting. 132 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: Back to the That was after his Houston debacle. 133 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jo Mike hired him to Washington out of the UFL, 134 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that was right. 135 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: He lost his gig with Gary. That was after the 136 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Texas stuff. 137 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, and uh did Washington of course in Cleveland, 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: and and you know then Atlanta where Dan and Kyle 139 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: gotting sober at Atlanta and all that kind of stuff. 140 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny how he is like the the 141 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: run game doctor, as it were. It does a lot 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: of innovative stuff with that. When he played wide receiver, 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of fascinating to sort of see 144 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: a guy who played a different portion of that because 145 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: he was a receiver, Smokey's receiver yale, yep before he 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, before he did that. But yeah, Mike and 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I were almost almost co workers. He's at one point, he's, uh, he's. 148 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: A bright, bright dude in that running game. Yeah, I'm 149 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: just telling you, Chargers running game is going to be 150 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: better this year than we've seen it the last handful 151 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: of year. 152 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: I believe that. 153 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: I genuinely believe that, And I think it's interesting to 154 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: me because this is probably the most powerful running back 155 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: that he's had in o Mario and Hampton versus a 156 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: lot of those guys he's had, like Devid a chain, 157 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: those guys, I mean, rahee, moster those guys are they 158 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: have flat out fly. But Hampton's not that dude. Hampton's 159 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: a between the tackles, you know, more of an inside 160 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: his own guy, and he can move. He can move 161 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: you a little bit. He's got some hef to him 162 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: and he's two twenty eight pounds. He can he can 163 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: move you. So it'd be interesting to see how they 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: designed that. 165 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's more I think it's more built. 166 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: You remember when when I'm trying to think now that 167 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: I just popped into my mind when when San Francisco 168 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: went on a playoff run. I think think Daniels was 169 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: there as the run game coordinator where they played the 170 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: Packers and they threw it like yeah, you know eight times? 171 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well are you talking? Was that the Kaperdick gear. 172 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: No, okay, that's Jimmy Garoppolo, the quarterback. 173 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Oh yes, he was in that. He was on that staff. Yeah, 174 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: because it's in the Kaperdick gear. 175 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: He was. 176 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: He was not paying he was. 177 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: First they're watching an NFL game with thinking, yeah, they're hiding. 178 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: Ever seen that, ye know what they are, but and 179 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: they're and they're running the ball in green Bay knows 180 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: they're running the ball and Green Bay can't stop him 181 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: from In the NFL, normally you just you don't see 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: games like that. 183 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was that game. And then the other game 184 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that springs to mind was when another one of those 185 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: acolytes there in the floor up in Green Bay. Did 186 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: it back to Dallas and Dan Quinn a couple of 187 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: years when Quinn was running that Dallas defense and they 188 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: just put they just kept putting it to him on 189 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: the ground. It could not stop it. Dallas knew what 190 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: was coming. There's nothing they could do. 191 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: Yep. So it'll, uh, it'll be an interesting match in. 192 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: People and I get, you know, we goes back to 193 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about at the top, but the fan 194 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: base one, and because it feels like the division improved, 195 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: you look at the Raiders and the free agents that 196 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: they added. 197 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: Now, of course there's definitely improved, but that wasn't anywhere 198 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: to improve. 199 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: There wasn't anywhere to go but up, I mean at 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: that point. And you had the Chargers, who maybe haven't 201 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: added as many, you know, free agents, but certainly added 202 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: to the collective brain trust with guys that are considered 203 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: bright football minds and Adam Gase, Mike McDaniel. On the 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, you figure that that offense 205 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: will be a lot more complex than it was under 206 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: under Greg Roman, who you know, I think has done 207 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot for mobile quarterbacks over the years, but maybe 208 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: his offense kind of tops out after a year or 209 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: two and you you kind of figured out everything that's 210 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: a part of it. And then you've got Kansas City, 211 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: who you know, added Kenneth Walker. They're going to get 212 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: you know, you figure they're not going to be as 213 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: bad as they were this past year in terms of quarterbacks. 214 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: If Mahomes comes back and is uh, you know, anything 215 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: like his former self. And so I think I sort 216 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: of get where fans are frustrated with the not outside moves. 217 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: From that perspective, Yeah, but you know, I mean again, 218 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: we were the number one seed in the AFC. You 219 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: did win the West. You were a pretty good football team. 220 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: He had some near misses on offense. I think that 221 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: could have made it a lot better. 222 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: I also think that even though since Sean Payton took over, 223 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: he's changed the culture of this organization. I don't think 224 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: there's any doubt about it. This will be bone Nix's 225 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: third season coming up. But for the fans, you know, 226 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: prior to Sean getting here, there were ten years that 227 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they were pretty difficult. 228 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of. 229 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: So fans I think are I'm guessing here, but I 230 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: think fans might be a little fearful of. 231 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Hey, wait a minute. Last year was great. 232 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: We don't want to go back to where we were 233 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: over the last ten years before Peyton and Company got here. 234 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 3: We want to continue to add to this team. And then, 235 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: as you said, then they factor in they see other 236 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: teams in a free age is going It's like, okay, 237 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: It's like it's like having a room full of kids 238 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: and Santa comes in and he's got, you know, a 239 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: bag full of toys and the one on the end 240 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: sees the bag dwindling. You know, here comes Santa and 241 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: the little one on the ends thinking, hey, you know 242 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: what about me? So I think I think there's some 243 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: of that from Broncos fans. And I honestly I get that, 244 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: I really do. 245 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: I do get that. But I look at the other 246 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: side of the coin here. I'm like, we got the 247 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: guy though, we got bow right. Whatever else you think 248 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: of bone Nicks, I mean clutch time. He has owned that. 249 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: He's been big time. 250 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: I compared him to, you know, to Derek Carr coming 251 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: out in terms of tools, like he's got the mobility, 252 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: although Derek car didn't use it as much he's got 253 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: an arm to get the ball down the field. You know, 254 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: he comes out of kind of a little bit of 255 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: a high schoolish offense, but you know he can he 256 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: can grow into that. But Bo's the anti Derek Carr 257 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: in terms of being clutched. Where Car melted in those 258 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: high pressure situations, Bone Nicks is unbelievably clutch in those situations. 259 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, do you. I mean, you can build 260 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: on that. 261 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: I just get the feeling that the organization likes, likes 262 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: where they are, and they weren't going to just for 263 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: the sake of signing somebody. They weren't gonna go out. 264 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: I think they had one guy in mine at the 265 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: running back room. We've talked about that. It didn't work out, 266 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: so they bring JK. 267 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: Back. I'm a big believer of JK. Dobbins. 268 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: Anybody who's listened to me since Dobbins got here knows 269 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: that to be a fact. The tight end room is 270 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: a little surprising. Not gonna lie, but it is what 271 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: it is. 272 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Well, they went out and looked at some guys in 273 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: the tight end room, like they went out and looked 274 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: at Chiga konkwill right, they were willing to go to 275 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: six million per year. Chick signed a thirty million dollar 276 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: three year deal. They were not gonna do that with 277 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: the room that they already had, you know. So that's 278 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think the never post confirmed on 279 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: my reporting from last week about going to ten million 280 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: on ATN You know those kinds of things. I mean, 281 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: they have price points and they stick to it. I 282 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: guess it's frustrating for fans as you look at it 283 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: and you're like. 284 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: You're being cheap. 285 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: But it also I mean, if you've ever if you've 286 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: ever been a person who's had to control a budget, 287 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: you know what you will you get to a point 288 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: where you're just not willing to throw good money after 289 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: bad and Fritzian like, how much money would it have 290 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: taken actually to pry him away from where he wanted 291 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: to go in going home to New Orleans. Sometimes it's 292 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: not just the money. 293 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: No, it's a good point. And so we'll see, we'll 294 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: see what happens. As long as JK. Dobbins stays healthy. 295 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: I think he'll be a really productive player and I 296 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: think the running game will be productive, just like we 297 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 3: saw in the first eight. 298 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: Games of the season. 299 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: I'm anxious to see what the offense looks like and 300 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: does it look just from the naked eye? 301 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: Does it? 302 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: Does it look different with supposedly a new play caller? 303 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: That and that is the million dollar, a multimillion dollar question. 304 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: But he's the most important question going into camp. 305 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Let's play a little Let's play a little miss Cleo 306 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: here for a second. Let's say it is Davis Webb's offense. 307 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: Let's say it is him running the whole show, all 308 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I don't think either one of 309 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: us actually believe that, but you know, let's say let's 310 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: say that it is. Well, let's say this offense takes off. 311 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Let's say it looks like it did in that preseason game. 312 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: They're throwing a ball over the yard. You know, this 313 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: offense is just hitting on all cylinders. Is Davis Webb 314 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: moving on to be a head coach next year? I mean, 315 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: he got plenty of opportunity at least in terms of 316 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: interview this year. Or is this organization suddenly looking at 317 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: Sean Payton on the end of his contract and saying 318 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: we need to make this guy the next head coach 319 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: of the Never Broncos. 320 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's I would hit the button of. 321 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: Unknown at this time. 322 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you could create a scenario that next year, 323 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: if Davis Webb, as you said, is the play caller 324 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: and the Broncos offense looks. 325 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: Demonstrably better. 326 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: That if that happens, he's going to get some head 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: coaching opportunities next year. Now, Sean, this coming year will 328 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: in the fourth year of a five year deal. At 329 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: the end of this coming year, if not before, Sean 330 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: payton Is representatives are going to want to know what 331 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: what the Walton Pinner family ownership group has in mind. 332 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, don Yee doesn't do lame duck coat, you know, 333 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: not going to go into that fifth year duck deals. Yeah. 334 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: So uh then then to me, it comes it comes 335 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: down to Greg Pinner. It comes down to Greg Pinner 336 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: having to make an interesting sort of decision on the 337 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: direction of his team. I also think how bow Nicks 338 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: plays next year and sort of his overall countenance. You know, 339 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: by all accounts, he's he's close to Davis Webb. If 340 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: he plays great, then he's probably gonna want to continue 341 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: with Davis Webb as the play caller of the play designer. 342 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: So I mean there's I think there's a lot of 343 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: plates in the air. So to speak, and it's just 344 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: going to be fun to see how it unfolds. 345 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: A voice should Bonnicks have in that decision, Well. 346 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: It depends, I think, a significant voice if he's going 347 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: to be if he's going to be the recipient of 348 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: a and then just fill in the blank. Sixty million 349 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: per year with three you know, three digits and then 350 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: a million behind it over a probably three year deal. 351 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: So if you're going to go down that road, you 352 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: theoretically don't have to negotiate with Bonnicks after what will 353 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: be his third year next year, but all indications are special. 354 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: If he has a good year, the Broncos are going 355 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: to want to get ahead of the get ahead of 356 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: the curve, so to speak. So yeah, I mean if 357 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: he if he plays great and the offense works and 358 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: he has just one of those years and the Broncos 359 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: play well, then then I think everybody has to sit 360 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: down in the room and try to figure out what's 361 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: best for the team. 362 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's gonna be an interesting conundrum 363 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: that comes out of winning instead of losing, for you know, 364 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: as it has been over the last coup years five six, six, 365 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: nine zeros of text one three h three keep talking 366 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: bleep about our Raiders. Gents, the days of pick on 367 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: us are over. I don't think we were picking on 368 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders. I think we said they improved. 369 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: Both of us said they improved. 370 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I said the bar has been raised. 371 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't gotten lower. 372 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: Than last year. But that's kind of a pick on, 373 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean. 374 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: A little bit. But I'm also I mean it's a 375 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: joke about their last season. Yeah, you know, not the 376 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: direction they're going. I think they're going to be better. 377 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to be more competitive than 378 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: they were last season. 379 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: Me too. 380 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: But Pete Carroll, I did not see that. 381 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: If you'd have told me, what are the chances that 382 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 3: at the end of this season Pete Carroll is fired, 383 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: I would have said, I'll take all you want to 384 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: give on that bet. 385 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: I would have had a lot of shares. I would 386 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: have had a lot of shares on that. By the way, 387 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: I've had several people texting me here, said keep to 388 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: Leeb just said on a podcast that the Broncos are 389 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: adding an offensive playmaker. When he was pressed by Skip, 390 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: I guess is Skip Bayless's podcast? 391 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: I don't know a. 392 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: KIF smiled and said he knows. People also said when 393 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: breaks just know you heard it here first, So being 394 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a little KOI there as far as that goes, but 395 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: to keep to leave. Apparently on something called Arena Gridirn, 396 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: which is I guess an underdog podcast said that they 397 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: were the Oberoncoles were gonna be adding an offensive playmaker. 398 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: I have said the same thing, but in full disclosure, 399 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: I was thinking of the running back room. And now 400 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: I don't think the guy that I thought would be 401 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: most likely to be that guy is no longer available, 402 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: so I don't I don't have any inside information about 403 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: another offensive playmaker I will. 404 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I've mentioned some offensive additions. I put some 405 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: names out there before. 406 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: But those guys don't classify. 407 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you classified Jawan Jennings or David 408 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: and Joku necessarily is huge difference makers. I don't, and 409 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and Joko's gonna come here anyway. I 410 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: think they might get priced out on that too. You've 411 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: already got a full room, and what he's gonna want 412 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: is more than six million a years, So I don't 413 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: know as far as that goes. I mean, I wonder 414 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: what other deal I'll have to I'll make some texts 415 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: and see what we can do during the break. But 416 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: as it sits right now, Jawan Jennings would be the 417 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: leading name that I would think of there for the offensive. 418 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 2: Side of the ball, and that doesn't make a lot 419 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: of sense to me. 420 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: That doesn't. I mean, he can play, but I don't know. 421 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 422 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: I would not necessarily sit there and call that a playmaker. 423 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: That's not the term that I would use. 424 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: I mean, just Juwan Jennings make the wide receiver room better. 425 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: And if so, if your answer to that is yes, 426 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: at who's expense I. 427 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: Think he does for me, that expense would be Troy Franklin. 428 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: Man, I don't know, but I'm not sure. 429 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'm ready to give up on Troy 430 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: Franklin just yet. I can tell you this, Troy Franklin's 431 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: a lot faster than Juwan Jennings. 432 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Jennings has, to his credit, fifteen touchdowns 433 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: over the last two seasons in twenty five games. 434 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: And keep in mind he played in a really good 435 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: offense as well. I mean, Juwan Jennings I think is 436 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: over priced the market with respect to. 437 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 2: What he's been willing to sign for. 438 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's still out there, but I mean, 439 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't he really be in like the little Jordan role, Like, 440 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't he really be his role? 441 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: For how much money? 442 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm getting at. It's like doesn't that 443 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: cost anyway? Yeah, Jauan Jennings at the COMBA, he had 444 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: a slow comp remember what was like four to seven two. 445 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: That's what Troy Franklin is a lot faster than Juwan Jennings. 446 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be using Memme's instead of Troy anyway 447 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: if it were me. 448 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't see the I don't see the 449 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings thing. I just I don't see that here 450 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: in Denver. Okay, Okay, Stefan Diggs is still out there. 451 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's that would be the other one that 452 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: you'd but they wanted, from what I understood, they wanted 453 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: his legal stuff cleared up before they'd even discussed that. 454 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: And his next Harry is until April first, So okay, 455 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't you know, we'll see. Maybe I'm you know, 456 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'm behind the times on that. Maybe maybe I'm not. 457 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: But they tried to bring Diggs in last year and 458 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: ultimately couldn't land it, So we'll see how that works out. 459 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: We got had a break, Ry Waives, see as you 460 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: women's men's basketball coach, women's basketball coach when we come back, 461 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: head coach RYE. Waives joining the show right now. Coach, 462 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: how you doing today? 463 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. 464 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: On absolutely, Coach. Congratulations. 465 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: You want to ask you if you have been able 466 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: to sort of see this coming. I know the Rams 467 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: haven't been in the tournament. I think it was twenty sixteen, 468 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: but you guys have had good success, a lot of 469 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: success the last what is it four or five years? 470 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: I think you've won twenty plus games, are you? I mean, 471 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: can coaches kind of feel with the recruiting and how 472 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: their team is playing and going through year after year 473 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: after year that they're kind of on a good track. 474 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: And here we are in the tournament this year. 475 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. We just kind of felt 476 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: this thing was brewing. We just in the competitive makeup 477 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: of this group and although there's some newies to this group, 478 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: we thought back in June when we all kind of 479 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 4: got together for summer workouts that this group just they 480 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: had it, and you know that we were going to 481 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: be in a position we felt to win a lot 482 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: of games, and you know it's not easy, right, It's 483 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: really hard to win a tournament. But this group stayed 484 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: the course, really kind of kept getting better as the 485 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: year went on, and we were playing our best basketball. 486 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: We are playing our best basketball here into to March, 487 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: and I think that's why we've had the success, you know, 488 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 4: to that end. 489 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: You started the season pretty hot. January was a little 490 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: bit of a of a stumble, but then you've won 491 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: what ninth straight I think through mid February, wind of 492 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: the tournament coming into the NCAA hot. How big is 493 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: that for this program? How big is that for this program? 494 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Moving to the PAC twelve next years as sort of 495 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: a building. 496 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: Block, yeah, I think it's. 497 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really big building block. 498 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: You know. 499 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: The Mountain West was a really good conference for us, 500 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: and we enjoyed being in it, but you know, we're 501 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: onto bigger and better things in the pack and to 502 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: have some momentum, uh, heading into that new league with 503 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: with the championship, with the n C double a birth, 504 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: you know it should fuel recruiting. 505 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: It. 506 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 4: It surely can't hurt us. So we're we're excited about 507 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: what's in front of us immediately and in the very 508 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: near future. 509 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: You're, as we. 510 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: Mentioned, you're the twelfth seed. Uh, you're playing Michigan State, 511 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: the fifth seed. And and for people, and they're probably 512 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people listening that wouldn't know much about 513 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: Michigan State. What what what are you getting yourself into? 514 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: What kind of club does Michigan State have? 515 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: Well, obviously the Big Ten is a a big time league, 516 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: and you know, it's a team that can really score 517 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: the ball. I think they're ninth in the country and 518 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: scoring offense. They've got length, they've just got a really 519 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: talented roster with not many holes in it, and and 520 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 4: they they really compete. You've got to to finish high 521 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: in that league. You've you've got to you've got to 522 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 4: really battle in you know, night in and night out. 523 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: But but so do we and we know we're going 524 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: to face really good guard play. Uh they're interior with 525 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: vander Sloop, but you know the Oregon transfer, she's she's 526 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: an elite interior player around the basket, So they've got 527 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: some pros. We know we've got our work cut out 528 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 4: for us, but we we've played good teams this year. 529 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: We played good teams on the road in big environments. 530 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: Our kids don't seem to, you know, get too wide eyed. 531 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 4: They they love these types of things, and we're going 532 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: to take this thing head on and see what we 533 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: can get done. 534 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, coach your standout guard to the season ending 535 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: injury midway through the semmifinal game in Vegas. But it 536 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: feels like the bench has really stepped up, especially some 537 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: of those younger players. You got Roby in there getting rebounds. Uh, 538 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: how has that been as an adjustment for you as 539 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: a coach And how's the team rallied around the loss 540 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: of that player? 541 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: Well, it just shows what type of team that we 542 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: have to win two games in the Mount West Conference 543 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 4: tournament without your best player and we do a lot. 544 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: I mean, she's our quarterback and you know, she averages 545 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: sixteen of games, she's our second leading rebounder, and she's 546 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: our toughness. She's a big ten player. So to see 547 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: our team rally around that and not just to rally 548 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: with emotion and that sort of thing and toughness, we 549 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: had to perform and everybody had to do a little 550 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: bit more, probably assume a little bit different role and 551 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: produce in it. And you know, we have all the 552 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: confidence in the world and those kids, and they obviously delivered. 553 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 4: But you know, Marty Laimana was huge, both offensively and 554 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: defensively the last two games. You know, Froby Carlson, the 555 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: sophomore duo was spectacular. Brag on the interior. Everybody. We 556 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 4: just asked, can you give us, you know, five percent more? 557 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 4: And everybody delivered yes. 558 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: Kind of. 559 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: It's kind of fun when you when you can see 560 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 3: stuff like that happen, even though you hate to to 561 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: lose Lexus. Uh, my last question, and of course I've 562 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: done some digging for this. I'm gonna ask you. Will 563 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: your wife be washing all of your shoes on this trip? 564 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh? My lord? What I mean? 565 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: You guys, You guys aren't that good. You told me 566 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: you guys are really not that good. But hey, I 567 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: like my shoes white. I'm you know, Ryan Williams, white 568 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: shoe whatever. Yeah, darn right, they're they're washed. 569 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: So hey, when did that start? How long has that 570 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: been that way for you? 571 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. 572 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: I've always liked my shoes to be clean, I mean 573 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: years and years, to be honest with you, And I 574 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 4: like the white shoes even in the winter time. So 575 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: I think they make me look faster if I wore 576 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: black shoes like you know in football, I could never 577 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 4: wear black shoes. I mean I'm slow to begin with. 578 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: So I mean I want to the fastest coaches in 579 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 4: America in these white shoes. 580 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 581 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: Oh. 582 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: CSU Women's yes basketball head coach Ryan Williams, the twelve 583 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 5: seed at CSU have taken on the fifth seeded Michigan 584 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: State in the NCAA turned round one WU Friday at 585 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 5: five thirty Mountain. 586 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: Time on ESPA. Coach wishing the best of lucky that one. 587 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: Looking forward to. 588 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: It all right, thanks, gentlemen, Lucky here. 589 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: That's CSU women's basketball head coach Ryan Believe. 590 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: The dude's won over twenty games like it's either five. 591 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: Or six straight seasons. 592 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been. 593 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean they have done a really good job at 594 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: women's at women's basketball. 595 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: And four Collins he has the most wins in his career, 596 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: are tied for the most excuse me, in his career 597 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: of any Mountain. 598 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: West basketball coach, men or women's. And there won't be 599 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: any more Mountain West conference right. 600 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Well, they're not going to be in the niver Left 601 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: of the Mountain West Conference. They're going to be moving 602 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: to the PAC twelve. And what a great time for 603 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: them to have that kind of success as you're moving 604 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: forward into a new common it's to get a little 605 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: buzz around the program. If helps out recruiting a little 606 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: bit more so, absolutely good for them. And you know, 607 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: you hate to see a star player go down, but 608 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: you love to see you know, you love to see 609 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: players routing around for somebody else step up, and they've 610 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: they've certainly had that. We appreciate coach taking the time 611 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: to to join us today as well. Get back to 612 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: the text line here. Everybody keeps sending me this a 613 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: keyp to leeb audio. Well we'll listen to that and 614 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: see what he had to say. From what I understand, 615 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: he said something about he you know, he had a 616 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: little birdie tun him. They were adding an offensive playmaker. 617 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: So we'll get to that audio. I had that chance 618 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: to listen to a keep to le Bon with I 619 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: believe Skip Bayless, who I make it a point not 620 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: to listen to every day of my life. 621 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: I am not Skip is uh is Skip a ben guy. 622 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he cares one way there about me. 623 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: I think there's no, it's not there's not beef there. 624 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: This isn't like Jaw Rule in the summer of twenty sixteen. 625 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, when John and I would you know, went 626 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: back and forth. I never thought I would a beef 627 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: with Rule. I never thought I would have beef with 628 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: a rapper that would make Complex magazine, but it did. 629 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: On I made jokes about him and fire fast, and 630 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: he took that very personally, uh, and tried to fire 631 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: some shots back off and then uh, he said, So, 632 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: I God, wish I have to go back and look 633 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: at this. But he said something about, uh, you know, 634 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: get back to power rankings or whatever it is you do. 635 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: And I said, I power ranked your mother last night. 636 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: She came second. And that one, that one set him off. 637 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: Oh, man, I would say, I mean, seriously, see you 638 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: lucky he didn't whoop your ass. 639 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I well, I mean he's not the biggest. 640 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: Well either of you might be. Yeah, you're lucky on 641 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: that one. 642 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: So we'll see. I've I've had a smart mouth my 643 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: whole life. We'll see if it gets me in trouble 644 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: one of these days. For the entire audience that wonders 645 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: who Pete Pablo is he was the rapper that was 646 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: the take your shirt off, spin it like a helicopter guy. 647 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: That's woo Pete Pablo? 648 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: What you said next to him? 649 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: His wife got got Pete's poncho because he was terrain 650 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: she gave he gave his wife a poncho. What's that worth? 651 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Probably not much these days. Yeah, yeah, p D hasn't 652 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: had a hit in twenty years. Yeah, pd Pablo. It 653 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: was like nine to eleven arrow when he question was 654 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: making it. 655 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: What was the other one? 656 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Freakingly? Oh yeah, Grant and high school love that sound 657 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: in Ohio with and over bite. Oh my Southeast Ohio. Yeah, 658 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't this conversation is gonna go ways. I don't 659 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: want it to go right now. Five six six nine zero. 660 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for having the CSO coach on. Hope to hear more. Guy, 661 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you know he's good. I love to have them more. 662 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm pulling for the Rams on Friday. 663 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: See how clean those shoes off? This one'll be watching 664 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: now now. I've been watching on TV to see how 665 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: clean those shoes. 666 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: We got that tidbit of information from Susie Crack. Wife 667 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: always washes his white tennis shoes. They have to be 668 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: spotless white. That's I mean, I get it. Man likes 669 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: his shoes to be clean. 670 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: I get it. But whatever, yeah, you know, I mean, 671 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,239 Speaker 1: if you're bringing home the baking, okay, okay, that's what 672 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: works for you. And good good luck to the CSU 673 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: women out there and taking all Michigan State there any 674 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: of the uh any these matchups in the in the 675 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: men's tournament, you're really really looking forward to. Hawaii makes 676 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: the tournament for the first time and in a while, 677 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: of course, they run up against Arkansas in the opener, 678 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: so that's probably not gonna. 679 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: That's the that's the end of them. No, I think that. 680 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a year where you. 681 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: Have, honestly, I think there are five or six teams 682 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: that legitimately could win this thing. Gotta stay healthy, I mean, 683 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: all all the things that we know to be true 684 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: in sporting events. When you have to go on a run, 685 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: you gotta stay healthy, you know, you got to. You 686 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: gotta be a good defensive team, all the all the 687 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: all of all those things. But I mean, Arizona I 688 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: think could win it. I think Michigan, even though they 689 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: lost in the Big Ten championship to Purdue, I think 690 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: Michigan could win. 691 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: That might have. 692 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: Been the best thing to happened to them. 693 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: I'd lose, like still the number one seed, right right, 694 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe refocuses them is the weakest number one seed 695 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 3: with the injuries. I mean, they play hard, they're just 696 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: not very deep. They could literally run out of bodies. 697 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: But they listen the boozer the Boozer boys or are legit, 698 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: I mean, and they know how to play. And I 699 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: think I think for taking over for a coaching icon, 700 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: I think John Schreyer has done about as good a 701 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: job as you could possibly do. 702 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: I would agree with that. 703 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you stepped through the shadow. Mikeyewsky, I mean. 704 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: No, I mean, look at Indiana kind of allowed for 705 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: years and years when Bobby Knight left under different circumstances. 706 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: But I mean Indiana has had a couple of moments since. 707 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: But but not I mean but Duke. I mean, Duke 708 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: is there seemingly every single year. I think I just 709 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: think John Schreyer is the right guy for that job. 710 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: He played from from coach Skrzyzewski, he coached under coach Skrzyzewski. 711 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 3: Seems like he's the right guy. So I think they 712 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: can make a deep run. I think Arkansas could win it. 713 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: That's another one, do too. 714 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: I like my Hogs shot this year. Gonzaga another number 715 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: three seed. Is this a team that's ever going to 716 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I've only seen them a couple of times. 717 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put them in the Arizona Michigan. Uh, I 718 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: tell you a dark horse for me, And it's probably 719 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: because I got to know him a little bit years ago. 720 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: But Saint John's they might not be as good as 721 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: they were even last. 722 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: Year, but they they will. 723 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: They will play defense the entire game like their life 724 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: depends on it. Yeah, Patino gets a lot out of 725 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: that team. 726 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: We started the show talking a little bit about Nolan Richardson, 727 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: but Rick Patino, you know the way he gets guys 728 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: to play defense. 729 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: He gets tough players, he gets New York, New York kids, 730 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: a lot of them. Yeah, so, I uh, I think 731 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: they're my dark horse. 732 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: Those used to be the best matchups too, Patino against 733 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: Nolan Richardson back a dog fight. Those were those were 734 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: the that was the rivalry that David, It's a lot 735 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: of fun. 736 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: I'll see it tomorrow a bit. I'll see it tomorrow, DC. 737 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: You next