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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm your host Tatum

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Speaker 1: Everett from the Vikings Entertainment Network, and the Vikes are

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Speaker 1: back home this weekend when they welcome the three to

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Speaker 1: nine Washington Commanders. Minnesota's looking to snap a four game

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Speaker 1: losing streak and return to the win column. And I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty excited about today's show. Vikings radio analyst Pete Burstch

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Speaker 1: joins the program to give us a breakdown into Sunday's matchup. Plus,

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Speaker 1: we've got artists to the athletes, Dan Gamash, who you

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Speaker 1: may know Asmash. He'll talk about his journey from being

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Speaker 1: an athlete himself to now customizing shoes and cleats for

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Speaker 1: the Stars. But first let's hear from Vikings head coach

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. He spoke to the media on Wednesday about

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Speaker 1: what needs to happen on the field Sunday to return

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Speaker 1: to their winning weights.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important when you talk about what it's

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Speaker 3: going to take to win a game and coincides with

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Speaker 3: getting the you know, the quote unquote trained back on

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Speaker 3: the tracks is we got to stop doing things to

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Speaker 3: lose games before we get ourselves a chance to win them.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes it might not be as catastrophic as a

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Speaker 3: turnover play, but those are certainly in the you know,

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Speaker 3: in the ledger of things that that lose games. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's an early you know, you may play a really good,

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Speaker 3: complete game, but your one play is on a fourth

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Speaker 3: a chance to maybe start a little faster, sustain a

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Speaker 3: little bit of momentum, give our defense a chance to play,

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Speaker 3: you know, not in an even fifty to fifty game

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Speaker 3: at times this year, to maybe kickstart some momentum, they're

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Speaker 2: So it's a lot of things like that.

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Speaker 3: And then it's just understanding that, you know, we are

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Speaker 3: in the midst of troubling, troubling times, but how we

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Speaker 3: persevere through these times are what you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: the path moving forward will be forged upon, you know,

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Speaker 3: whether that's decisions that are made, whether that's ultimately what

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Speaker 3: this kind of organization and our roster and our staff

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Speaker 3: and things, all those things like, we're in a moment

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Speaker 3: now where we need to all respond the right way

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Speaker 3: got the players to do it, and it talking about

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Speaker 3: it gets you to a certain point, but then it's

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Speaker 1: Now, it's time to welcome in Pete Burstt. You hear

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Speaker 1: him on the radio call each in every Vikings game, Pete,

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Speaker 1: what is happening?

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Speaker 4: How's it going?

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Speaker 5: It's going challenging times, but yeah, they're not going to

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Speaker 5: cancel the rest of them. So you got to just

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Speaker 5: keep incrementally improving on things, doing the best you can,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully you get a chance to turn this thing

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Speaker 5: around against a Washington commander's team that's you know, they're

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Speaker 5: they're they're struggling in spots too, So we'll see how

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Speaker 5: this one turns out for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, k I was just saying, it's one thing to

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Speaker 1: talk about a tough time, but another to go out

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Speaker 1: and make those incremental changes. As you mentioned, how difficult

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Speaker 5: It's very difficult just in this regard. The job is

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Speaker 5: hard enough as it is right week in and week out.

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Speaker 5: It's hard enough to win, uh, and do the extra

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Speaker 5: it makes it that much It makes it that much tougher,

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Speaker 5: of team. You know, for the defense, like we saw

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Speaker 5: And it's the time of possession being so lopsided and

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Speaker 1: One player I guess on the defense who has been

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Speaker 1: a bright spot is Dallas Turner feels like he's really

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Speaker 1: He's had a sack now in three straight games. Last

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Speaker 4: What have you seen change?

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Speaker 5: Now? What's interesting I think with Dallas is I think

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Speaker 5: he's definitely taken advantage of the increased amount of playtime

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Speaker 5: and he's take I think he's taken full advantage of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, Dallas Turner played kind of a defensive end

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Speaker 5: here to a Flora system that really leans heavily on

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Speaker 5: this scheme. You know, what I'm what I'm seeing is

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Speaker 5: he's just he's just reading faster. Things are starting to

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Speaker 5: with the reading keys, and Burnt Flora has said it earlier.

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Speaker 5: He's doing the little things right and that's why the big,

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Speaker 5: are our alignment, foot were, reading keys, reacting properly, those

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Speaker 5: all all those things put you in position to make plays.

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Speaker 5: And because he's such a good athlete, he can probably

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Speaker 5: of comes with the surety of what you're doing right.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing worse than being out there on the field

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Speaker 5: it's a horrible feeling when you're kind of like, oh, god,

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Speaker 5: He looks a lot more sure of himself when he's

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of strategy to that. It's not just

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Speaker 5: fundamentals and technique, but knowing when to do what. Like

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Speaker 5: for I mean, so it's a whole it's a whole

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Speaker 5: a he's such a talent. He's so fast, so explosive. Uh,

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Speaker 5: if this trend continues, Uh, you know this sky's the

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Speaker 5: having success. The team may not be, but he is.

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Speaker 5: And so he just has to continue to do everything

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Speaker 5: on and who's going to elevate themselves. So that process

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Speaker 5: He's got more snaps this year and he's taken advantage

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about the next opponent, it's the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: They had a really tough game last week against the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: They seem to be far from where they were last.

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Speaker 4: Season when they made it to the NFC title game.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been watching some film on them this

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Speaker 1: week to get ready for the matchup. What will the

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Speaker 5: I think the offense in order to run the ball well.

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Speaker 5: There's an opportunity here to really run the ball well

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Speaker 5: take some you can take some pressure off of the

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Speaker 5: passing game. Right, you're not throwing the ball thirty five

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Speaker 5: keep this defensive group on the field, all right, Goldman,

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Speaker 5: We're familiar with Javon Kinlaw. They've got some guys in

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Speaker 5: the middle that are good, but they wear down Jeruson Newton,

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Speaker 5: Preston Smith outside linebacker, Frankie Louvu, Jacob Martin von Miller.

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Speaker 5: They're good, but they're they're not the group that we

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Speaker 5: saw a week ago against Seattle. Right Bobby Wagner inside linebacker.

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Speaker 5: I think from a from a defensive backfield standpoint, they're

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Speaker 5: they're solid, right, but they're not. Uh, they're not. They're

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Speaker 5: they're not great. There's no one out there that really

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Speaker 5: offensively for you know, for us, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 5: form in front, most of the time, we have more

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Speaker 5: success I think against that. Just keep this veteran defense,

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Speaker 5: especially the front, but this veteran defensive front, keep them

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Speaker 5: those three four yard runs will eventually become more and

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Speaker 5: and yeah, I think this is our best shot at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can't take the you have to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the negative place, to get rid.

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Speaker 5: Of the we got to quit turn the ball over.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's a think for you know, first and foremost,

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Speaker 5: be we can't be doing that. And if you can

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Speaker 5: just maintain possession, even if you're three and out, and

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Speaker 5: pump the ball and flip the field and do those

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Speaker 5: things consistently, you're gonna make it tougher on this Commander's offense.

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Speaker 5: You know, not knowing who's going to be a quarterback,

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Speaker 5: they have a very good running game. They're number three

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Speaker 5: you got guys like Jacory Krosky, Merritt and Chris Rodriguez.

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Speaker 5: He's a good running back. Krossky Merrit very good vision quick.

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Speaker 5: If you don't stop though, if you don't stop the

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Speaker 5: run against this team, you're gonna have a long day.

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Speaker 1: So and also if you want a little bit more

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Speaker 1: on the Commanders, you can check out Pete's film breakdown.

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Speaker 1: He goes into how this team can take care of business.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tatum Everett. The Vikings return to US Bank Stadium

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Speaker 1: How many how many requests for might cause my cleats

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Speaker 2: I see what you're saying, which is very like, you know,

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Speaker 6: But you know, once one guy sees what someone else

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Speaker 2: It's it's still great.

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Speaker 6: But obviously, as a as a guy who's a fine

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Speaker 2: Whatever, but you just it's part of the job.

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Speaker 6: You navigate and keep everyone comfortable and happy because you

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Speaker 2: You know it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, Marsh, thank you so much for your time. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate getting to know you a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: We've seen your art for years, love everything that you do,

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Speaker 1: so thank you so much, and thanks for being a

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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, and hopefully hopefully we turn on the

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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