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Speaker 1: Now News Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday Morning Sports

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Speaker 1: Talk with your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW, as.

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Speaker 2: We dig in and here we go Bengals football later

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Speaker 2: on this afternoon at four twenty five. It's a late kick.

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Speaker 2: Network probably looked at this game back in the day

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Speaker 2: and they thought, hm, Bengals Lions, that ought to be

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Speaker 2: a good one. Of course, we know the history of

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Speaker 2: both of these teams. The Lions at three and one,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are two and two, and on paper, which

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Speaker 2: no one ever plays on. On paper, it looked like

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Speaker 2: a pretty good matchup. But as we know, it is

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Speaker 2: a little bit different. Joe Burrow not available, and the

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Speaker 2: Bengals have been reeling the last couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 2: what do they do. Well, Apparently, you go back to

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Speaker 2: where you began, and that is figuring out a way

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Speaker 2: to put the most competitive team on the field that

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Speaker 2: started all the way back in February, of course with

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Now no Joe Burrow. Nevertheless, it's not like

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Speaker 2: to give you any sympathy any time off or any

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Speaker 2: kind of slack in the NFL. You line up and

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Speaker 2: you play with what you got. Zach Taylor knows that

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Speaker 2: I've been preaching about it all week, probably has talked

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Speaker 2: to his team a lot about it, Probably talk to

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Speaker 2: his team about just how it was unacceptable. We knew

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Speaker 2: it was unacceptable. Hopefully now the team knows it was

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Speaker 2: unacceptable what happened the last couple of weeks. Here's Taylor

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: I love personally playing playing these types of games. These

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Speaker 3: are my favorite games to play. This is why we

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: Our backs against the wall a little bit going in

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Speaker 3: this game off of two losses.

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Speaker 2: That's perfect.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'd like to see how everybody responds, who

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Speaker 3: lives in fear, who thrives in the university. It's it's

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Speaker 3: a great opportunity for a coach to really assess what

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Speaker 4: Myself included.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, your your back is really up against the

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Speaker 2: wall because it you know, you take them one game

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Speaker 2: at a time. That's coach speak, but it's right. You

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Speaker 2: just you only you only can deal with what's in

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Speaker 2: front of you, and you play them one at a time.

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Speaker 2: But let's just look at the lands Escape. You're two

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Speaker 2: and two. You've got arguably one of the top three

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Speaker 2: offenses in the game right now, coming to play you

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Speaker 2: today at four to twenty five in the Lions. Then

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Speaker 2: you've got to go to Green Bay, and then you

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Speaker 2: come home and play Pittsburgh. If you're going to jumpstart

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Speaker 2: this thing, why not jump start it against one of

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Speaker 2: the best teams in the league. We'll get into this

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Speaker 2: a lot in the next three hours. There is much

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Speaker 2: more to get to and a lot going on as

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Speaker 2: we settle all matters here on Sunday mornings. And let's

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Speaker 2: start with college football yesterday at Knippert Stadium. What a

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Speaker 2: magnificent atmosphere and what a win for the University of

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati thirty eight to thirty over number fourteen Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: This game had Cincinnati race out to a quick seventeen

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Speaker 2: a four hundred and seventy four day of total yards,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty yards of which came on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Brendan sorosby workmanlike, if not terrific, thirteen of twenty five

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Speaker 2: eleven yards and a couple of touchdowns, and all of that, well,

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Speaker 2: you didn't have to tell Zach Taylor how big a

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Speaker 2: day it was on the field and in the stands.

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Speaker 5: That's a huge win for us in our in our

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Speaker 5: one of the best teams arguably the last ten years

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Speaker 5: for that, and I'm you know, proud of our fans

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Speaker 5: and our atmosphere that we had to day to be

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Speaker 2: You may want to fix the hum in that multipox

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Speaker 2: before the next news conference. Nevertheless, Prior was absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 6: Here's Prior, you know, in the in the runner back room,

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Speaker 6: you know, so we just do our part, you know,

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Speaker 6: We just got to be great from there.

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Speaker 2: And if not great, they were really really good you

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Speaker 2: effort next Saturday for a noon kickoff, and the Godfather

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Speaker 2: was back. This defense, as you well know if you're

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Speaker 2: a UC fan, is night and day. When they have

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Speaker 2: Dante Corleone Junior in the middle, he just clogs up

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Speaker 2: a lot of space. He's been here for the good times,

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Speaker 2: he's been here for the not so good times. This

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Speaker 2: is a good time for him. And he knows what

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Speaker 2: all of those bad times, those struggles and everything that

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Speaker 2: why things are well humming for the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: We was so banged up last year, but we didn't

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Speaker 7: make it excuse we fought our butt off. But this year,

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Speaker 7: our team, man, it is just a different feeling, you know.

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Speaker 7: Just the look on our faces says it all. Like

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Speaker 7: last your team would have definitely photoed as soon as

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Speaker 7: they score touching and we're up. So I've definitely seen

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Speaker 7: that today and just sorts you, bro, like that's what

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Speaker 7: we've been missing since des Ritter like leadership like him

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Speaker 7: So is this the leadership on his team goes along way.

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Speaker 2: Well, it sure did yesterday thirty eight thirty over Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Again you see four and one with Central Florida coming

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Speaker 2: Julian's saying twenty three of twenty seven, three hundred and

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Speaker 2: coach couldn't be saying any more about Julian saying than

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Speaker 2: what he says right here.

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Speaker 8: I think you're seeing his confidence improve every week. And

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Speaker 8: you know, how we do it is everything's thought out.

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Speaker 8: Not everything always goes to plan, but we're very deliberate

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Speaker 8: our quarterbacks. Sometimes, you know, we have to maybe put

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Speaker 8: them in situations that they're maybe not ready for. But

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Speaker 8: when you have a defense like we do right now,

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Speaker 8: Julian play with more and more confidence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, he knows how to distribute the ball

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Speaker 2: Carnell Tate nine receptions, one hundred and thirty eight yards

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Speaker 2: a big game yesterday. He did a lot of different things,

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Speaker 2: and quite frankly, when you watch Smith when he doesn't

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Speaker 2: Tate had those nine catches and the touchdowns. Ohio State

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Speaker 2: oh two and oh in the Big Ten next week

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Speaker 2: at number twenty two Illinois. That is a noon kick

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Speaker 2: good Big Ten game next week number one oh High

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Speaker 2: State five and zero. Meanwhile, down in Georgia, it ain't

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Speaker 2: was outstanding about anything that the University of Kentucky did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And right now, that team is reeling two and three,

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Speaker 2: oh and three inside the SEC, and it really hasn't

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Speaker 2: won a game of any significant since beating Ole Miss

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Speaker 2: last year. Last year, Mark Stoop says he's getting sympathy

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Speaker 2: from no one. Mark Stoop says, look, his team is

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Speaker 9: I mean, you think we're the only ones, you know

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Speaker 9: what I mean, Like, nobody feels sorry for you in

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Speaker 9: this league. Nobody's kinda I mean throughout the country. You

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Speaker 9: so you got to block it out, go back to work.

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Speaker 9: And you know that's what matters to me, and that's

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Speaker 9: what I told them. You know, it's about continuing to

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Speaker 9: stay very possible.

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Speaker 2: We're not even halfway through this season. Yet we played

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Speaker 2: five you know, so we had seven games left. Now

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Speaker 2: Kentucky is now two and three, as they said, oh

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Speaker 2: to three in the SEC. They get a bye next week,

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Speaker 2: which would be welcome. Speaking of teams that are really

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Speaker 2: this is outside the area. But how about Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Penn State goes out to play at UCLA. U CLA

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Speaker 2: fires its coach last week. UCLA had won a game

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Speaker 2: all year. UCLA was a twenty four and a half

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Speaker 2: point underdog, and UCLA beat Penn State yesterday forty two

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Speaker 2: to thirty seven. Penn State now three and two. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Miami goes to two and three one to er in

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Speaker 2: the MAC They beat Northern noh Oi twenty four fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback Kwon Finn fourteen of twenty six one's seventy a

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Speaker 2: to fourteen. Final. Next week, Miami goes to Akron, Ohio University.

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Speaker 2: This may be the worst loss in the Midwest for

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Speaker 2: any team. Ball State beat them twenty to fourteen. Wall

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Speaker 2: State's not good Ou was worse yesterday, losing almost at

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Speaker 2: the gun on a forty three yard touchdown pass Anderson

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Speaker 2: walks into Mount Saint Joe and Mount Saint Joe smaxsim

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Speaker 2: around forty one. Twenty one was the final. Yesterday, Mount

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Speaker 2: Saint Joe goes to two and two, but Thomas Moore

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Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky and walks away with a twenty one to

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Speaker 2: fifteen win. Thomas Moore is now o and five on

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Speaker 2: the season FC Cincinnati. We'll get into where they're all

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Speaker 2: at about right now and talk a little baseball as well.

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Speaker 2: It's Sunday morning Sports Talk and it's seven hundred w

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Speaker 2: l W. All right, mister Penney, I'm going to show

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Speaker 2: you some images and you tell me what do you see?

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Speaker 2: It looks like a butterfly listening to the Scott's Loan Show.

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Speaker 2: And this one I see a rocket ship, a rocket ship.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, last enough for the planet Sloan I see. And

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Speaker 10: this one that looks like a fish swimming in a

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Speaker 10: mountain pond.

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Speaker 4: Very good.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but a fish is angry because he's not listening

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Speaker 11: to Scott Sloan.

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Speaker 2: Scott Sloan, please listen responsibly join.

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Speaker 12: Me Scott Sloan tomorrow morning at nine o'clock on seven

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Speaker 12: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: five against the Lions last night out East Uh They

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Speaker 15: The latest on the government shutdown. This is the nine

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Speaker 16: The Democratic House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries uploaded a letter

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Speaker 16: proposed government funding stopgap bill. He also said millions will

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Speaker 17: Big changes are head for the week weatherwise. Will have

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Speaker 2: I don't want to rule the world. I'd sure like

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Speaker 2: more than what we saw against you know what, I

437
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Speaker 2: just want to forget about the last two weeks. We

438
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Speaker 2: just need to see more. And even Browning knows that.

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Speaker 21: I think the main, like I said, just the main

440
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Speaker 21: focus for us is just more more of yourself to it,

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Speaker 21: put more time into it. And you know, I'm going

442
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Speaker 21: to do everything I can to make sure that I'm

443
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Speaker 21: leaving no stone unturned and showing up someday with given

444
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Speaker 21: our chance of our team the best chance to win.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know again, he's he's got his hands full

446
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Speaker 2: with the Lions defense today, and it's it's not that again.

447
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Speaker 2: Not not having Joe Burrow is really a big deal,

448
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Speaker 2: as we know, not just because of what he can do,

449
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Speaker 2: but the other things that maybe aren't so strong about

450
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Speaker 2: this franchise that Burrow with his play can make up with.

451
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? His play can hide a lot

452
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Speaker 2: of deficiencies and it's unfair to throw those things completely. Then,

453
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Speaker 2: on the back of Jake Browning, Mike Renner is joining

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Speaker 2: us right now. He is the host of a really

455
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Speaker 2: good podcast. You should listen to it if you're into

456
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Speaker 2: the NFL. It's called Pushing the Pile. I listened to it.

457
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Speaker 2: I think it's out two or three times a week. Nevertheless,

458
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Speaker 2: when it comes out, I listen to Renner because he

459
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Speaker 2: gets into some really deep dive stuff with his co host.

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Speaker 2: And I asked Mike if he would join us today

461
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Speaker 2: to talk about not just not just the Bengals in

462
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Speaker 2: its plight, but also what's going on here with Jake Browning.

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Speaker 2: Mike Renner, how are you on this glorious Sunday. I'm

464
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Speaker 2: doing fantastic Theys for having me on Ken. I don't

465
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Speaker 2: think Jake Browning in a vacuum is a bad quarterback.

466
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I don't think he's going to

467
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Speaker 2: start and lead a team to a super Bowl. I

468
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Speaker 2: don't think he's a bad quarterback. But this is an

469
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Speaker 2: offense that was designed by and large around Burrow. Burrow

470
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Speaker 2: can extend plays, Burrow has chemistry, which I think you

471
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Speaker 2: compound that with their inability to run. And you've got

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Speaker 2: what you've got right now. So even if you look

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Speaker 2: at it, you say, Okay, this probably isn't going to

474
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Speaker 2: be a season that ends with Mike Brown hoisting a

475
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Speaker 2: super Bowl trophy over's head. What do you do if

476
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Speaker 2: you're Zach Taylor, You've got this after four games and

477
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Speaker 2: you know you still have thirteen games to go, what

478
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Speaker 2: do you do? I mean, here's that.

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Speaker 22: I don't think it's completely over right, Like I'm not

480
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Speaker 22: completely packing it in. It's scene ended right now. They

481
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Speaker 22: still be in the playoffs. The AFC is kind of

482
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Speaker 22: wide open. It's not as good as we thought, but

483
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Speaker 22: you do have to get the running game better like that,

484
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Speaker 22: you have to try something else than what you've been

485
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Speaker 22: doing the first few weeks, because I saw the stats

486
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Speaker 22: in CBS research, is the first team ever to go

487
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Speaker 22: under fifty five yards in the Super Bowl era rushing

488
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Speaker 22: under fifty five yards rushing each of their first four games. Like,

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Speaker 22: it's just been a complete ineffect that they've had from

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Speaker 22: running game in terms of just like no impact on

491
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Speaker 22: the game. So I have to play all of it

492
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Speaker 22: on your quarterback every single week, and that quarterback's not

493
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Speaker 22: Joe Burrow. Yeah, you're just not going to win a

494
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Speaker 22: lot of games.

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Speaker 2: So you got to figure out. You just got to

496
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Speaker 2: toss more plays out.

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Speaker 22: You got to figure out what this offensive line can

498
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Speaker 22: do from a cohesiveness standpoint and try to lean into that.

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Speaker 2: I think if you can get Chase Brown outside, I

500
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Speaker 2: think you can do damage. I think if you can

501
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Speaker 2: use Chase Brown, as they used to call it years ago,

502
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Speaker 2: a safety valve, if you can get him involved in

503
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Speaker 2: the passing games somehow and use that passing game to

504
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Speaker 2: equate to runs, I think he's effective. But it still

505
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Speaker 2: doesn't solve the issue of tackle to tackle and running inside,

506
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Speaker 2: and I think that seems to be where they're struggling

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Speaker 2: the most. You can't switch everybody up. You can't try

508
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Speaker 2: different plays and say, whoops, I hope that'll work. So

509
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Speaker 2: at that point, at that point, is it strategy? Is

510
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Speaker 2: it just trying to get to the bye week, which

511
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Speaker 2: comes for them still about a month away. I'm just

512
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out you're as a fan if you

513
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Speaker 2: look at this and you say, yeah, I really want

514
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Speaker 2: to I really want to believe that this is going

515
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Speaker 2: to be a good season eventually. I really want to

516
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Speaker 2: believe that they can win some games. I really want

517
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Speaker 2: to believe, as you just said that this this American

518
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Speaker 2: Football Conference is a little weak this year. They've got

519
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Speaker 2: injury problems in Baltimore. You know, Buffalo looks great, but

520
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Speaker 2: after that, everybody looks featable. I mean, if you're a fan,

521
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Speaker 2: what are you looking for, particularly in this game today

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Speaker 2: against the Lions.

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Speaker 22: So if they're silver lining, it's Jig Browning led them

524
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Speaker 22: back to that win against Jacksonville and then the next

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Speaker 22: two weeks. The defenses you faced are arguably two of

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Speaker 22: the five best defense in the NFL, and like probably

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Speaker 22: the defenses if you're a backup quarterback that are the

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Speaker 22: most difficult to go again because Brian Flores is the

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Speaker 22: most creative defensive coordinator in the NFL. Of the Minnesota

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Speaker 22: Vikings and then the demo Broncos, they just are the

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Speaker 22: most talented defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So like it was going to be tough even if Joe.

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Speaker 22: Was out there, it was going to look like I mean,

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Speaker 22: you saw the offense one against the Browns, another top

535
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Speaker 22: five defense the NFL. They've faced a murderous row of

536
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Speaker 22: defenses to start the year. Now here's the thing. They

537
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Speaker 22: face the nasty North. So it doesn't get too much

538
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Speaker 22: easier when you got teams like the Lions and the

539
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Speaker 22: Packers on your schedule that have fantastic defenses in their

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Speaker 22: own right, But you're not going to be facing like

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Speaker 22: a Patrick's or a tan who can actually go monoimno

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Speaker 22: against to mar Chase, I think this is their week

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Speaker 22: against the Detroit Lions. If the offense doesn't get back

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Speaker 22: on track here.

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Speaker 2: I'd be a little spied.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 22: Detroit Lions offense is another story. The lead the league

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Speaker 22: in points per game whatever, But this team, at least

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Speaker 22: in the secondary, is susceptible to those one on one

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Speaker 22: routes on the outside that t Higgins and mar Chase

551
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Speaker 22: can win consistently against the corners of the Lions are

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Speaker 22: thrown out there.

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Speaker 2: So I think there is hope.

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Speaker 22: But this offensive line is the one where it's like,

555
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Speaker 22: this offensive line feels like it's on the GM in

556
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Speaker 22: front office, like this was put together kind of hand

557
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Speaker 22: picked by them, and it's not performing, And it's kind

558
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Speaker 22: of like a mismatch of guys who are you know,

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Speaker 22: their tackles are giant, enormous, their interiors super small, and

560
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Speaker 22: so like you're kind of schematically hampered because ideally, with

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Speaker 22: those tackles, you'd want to run gap scheme, power, downhill stuff,

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Speaker 22: but then your interior isn't built to run those sort

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Speaker 22: of concepts. So you just have this mismatched offensive line

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Speaker 22: that I don't think they were going to really gel

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Speaker 22: into a useful unit.

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Speaker 2: Did they make a mistake in this offseason by not

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Speaker 2: trading for Joe Toney, who's a local kid who went

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Speaker 2: to the I think the Bears for a fourth round

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Speaker 2: draft pick. Then of course had his contract renegotiated. They're

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Speaker 2: paying him a lot of money, But I you know,

571
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Speaker 2: they did the Lucas Patrick thing, and then late in

572
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Speaker 2: camp they did Dalton Reisner and they went rookie on

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Speaker 2: the other side with Dylan Fairschild. I go back to

574
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Speaker 2: maybe a missed opportunity there with Joe Toney. Should they

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Speaker 2: have pursued him more just for a fourth round draft

576
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Speaker 2: pick and extra money?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean it's kind of been the Bengals MO.

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Speaker 22: They've always kind of been in bargain shopping at that position,

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Speaker 22: you know, outside the Orlando Brown deal, Like it seems

580
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Speaker 22: like they always want to try to sneak by with

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Speaker 22: you know, mid round draft picks or midly paid free

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Speaker 22: agent It's like, well, when you pay guys that much

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Speaker 22: and when you draft guys in those ranges, more often

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Speaker 22: than not, you get the results as you pay for,

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Speaker 22: like you kind of get average to below average offensive lines.

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Speaker 22: And that's what we've seen from the Bengals. So one

587
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Speaker 22: Tuney isn't fixing this whole unit.

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Speaker 23: But would you rather probably know Bengals fans telling right now,

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Speaker 23: with what happened to Joe Burrow, would you rather have

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Speaker 23: Joe Tuney right now, or you know, one of their

591
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Speaker 23: highly paid receivers or that they have, I don't know, you.

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Speaker 10: Know, it's it's.

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Speaker 22: Given his injury history, it's hard to it's hard to

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Speaker 22: say they've done enough with this office line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this will be the third year brid

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if Burrow is coming back at any

597
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Speaker 2: point this season, but this'd be a third season and

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Speaker 2: six that he doesn't finish the season. And Tooney, who

599
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Speaker 2: was out there at least, you know, you got to

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Speaker 2: start somewhere, and invariably when you start somewhere, that's where

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Speaker 2: you spend the most of your money. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I again, I look at that, and I wonder if

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Speaker 2: it was a missed opportunity. Mike Renners our guests Pushing

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Speaker 2: the Plile his podcast. He's with cbssports dot dot com. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow doesn't tackle, Joe Burrow doesn't get lost in coverage,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow doesn't, you know, exercise pressure from the from

607
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Speaker 2: the perimeter. I mean, he can't fix everything, but there

608
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Speaker 2: are some giant efficiencies on that defensive side of the football,

609
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Speaker 2: and they've been on display the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, we here come the Lions who put

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Speaker 2: up Boku points. But I mean it's not like the

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Speaker 2: the Browns were Juggernaut. It's not like the Jaguars were Juggernaut.

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Speaker 2: It's not like either one of the two teams they

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Speaker 2: played in the last two weeks, including a Minnesota team

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Speaker 2: with Carson Wentz with Juggernauts. I mean, there's some serious

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Speaker 2: deficiencies on the defensive side of the ball, are they not?

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Speaker 2: There are?

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Speaker 22: And you knew it going in and you saw it

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Speaker 22: last year. You're really hoping Al Golden could make more

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Speaker 22: of it, and I do kind of think he is.

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Speaker 22: You know, I think at least this defensive kilburrow we're healthy,

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Speaker 22: it wouldn't be the sieve that we saw at times

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Speaker 22: last year where they had some games where it didn't

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Speaker 22: ven force punts, you know, so I think it is better.

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Speaker 22: But you're really paying for the fact that there's one

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Speaker 22: guy that.

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Speaker 4: Can rush the passer on this team.

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Speaker 22: When you have only one guy that can rush the

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Speaker 22: passer and Trey Henderson, it makes life very easy for

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Speaker 22: opposing offense quarridors. They just say, Hey, wherever Trey Hendrickson is,

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Speaker 22: that's where we're going, that's where we're putting all our attention.

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Speaker 22: And if you don't have even a number you know,

633
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Speaker 22: even number two, even a plan B, even a guy

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Speaker 22: who can win a one on one semi consistently.

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Speaker 2: You're just going to have a.

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Speaker 22: Tough time with a posing offense and making opposing quarterbacks uncomfortable.

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Speaker 22: And that's what they're figuring out. That's what they're continuing

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Speaker 22: to figure out. Unfortunately with you know, Schmarts who are

639
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Speaker 22: being banged up, but with Miles Murphy not turning into

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Speaker 22: that guy and just not having any your interior defensive

641
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Speaker 22: tackles that you've drafted in recent years really starts making

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Speaker 22: different da So it is just the fact that their

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Speaker 22: pastor is just completely predicated on is Trey Henderson getting

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Speaker 22: a one on one on this particular play, because if not,

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Speaker 22: quarterbacks probably will have all day.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see today against the Lions. We all know

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Speaker 2: who they have upfront and we'll see how Hendrickson handles

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Speaker 2: all of that. Mike Runner again pushing the pile of

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Speaker 2: the podcast. When does that come out?

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Speaker 4: Mike?

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Speaker 2: How many times a week? Four times a week?

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Speaker 22: We do a Sunday night show and then we do Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you got a little midwek action. They're leading

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Speaker 2: in the It really is terrific. You and Kyle really

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Speaker 2: do a nice job together. By the way. Is he

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Speaker 2: easy to work with? He is. Actually he's a great guy,

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Speaker 2: very easy to go. What were you going to say? No,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a loaded question, but you guys really

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Speaker 2: do a nice job together. And I would heartily endorse

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Speaker 2: anyone downloading that and listening to it because it's it's

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Speaker 2: not only informative, it's fun. All right, Mike, we'll visit

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Speaker 2: down the road. Thanks for your time today. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: it for sure, Ken, thanks for having me. You bet

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Speaker 2: it is. It is a good lesson, it really and

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Speaker 2: truly is. Yeah, today it will be interesting. We all

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Speaker 2: know who the Lions have up front on their offensive line.

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Speaker 2: It's Pena Seol. And you remember the debate what was

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Speaker 2: it four year five years ago? Jamar Chase pa Sool?

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase pa Soool? And I don't think anybody really

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Speaker 2: is upset to Jamar Chase is in our our team,

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Speaker 2: our town playing for the Bengals. But we're going to

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Speaker 2: see Suol today. I don't that depends if they move

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson around, but I mean they he should line up

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Speaker 2: across from Joseph Asai. But it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: exactly what Seoul does here today. He's obviously graded very

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Speaker 2: well in his NFL tenure and it was a huge

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Speaker 2: pickup for the Lions. They were talking about that this

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Speaker 2: week up in Detroit, just how much he meant and

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Speaker 2: to start for reconstructing their offensive line, so that too

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Speaker 2: will be a storyline Today is the Bengals take on

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Speaker 2: the Lions at Peyk Horse Stadium and Sunday mornings Sports

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Speaker 2: Talk will continue. In just a moment, did someone say

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Speaker 2: cat fight?

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Speaker 24: Sorry, that's the first thing that came into my mind.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on.

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Speaker 24: Defreud rules into Cincinnati to take on arm the loved Bengals.

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Speaker 24: Will the Orange and Black send the Lions back up

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Speaker 24: I seventy five with their tail between their legs?

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Speaker 2: Catch the goal live from Dan Wood and Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 24: Coverage starts today at twelve new stream for free on

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Speaker 24: a new and improved iHeartRadio app or on seven hundred WLW,

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Speaker 24: home of the best Bengals coverage.

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Speaker 2: Workdays can be unpredictable, but your work where shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: With the Centas Apparel Plus program ahead May seven hundred WLW,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back at Sunday Morning Sports Talk. Oh, We've got

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Speaker 2: a birthday to celebrate today yes, yes, yes, Brian Johnson,

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Speaker 2: lead singer ac DC, come on seventy eight years old today,

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Speaker 2: seventy eight years on this earth. I'm about that his

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Speaker 2: But Brian is seventy eight years old today from Dunstan, County, England. Actually,

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Speaker 2: this guy wasn't a bad singer before ac DC. He

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Speaker 2: was with a group that had some renown in the

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Speaker 2: UK by the name of Jordy. But when Bonscott died,

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Speaker 2: some of the boys from ac DC, Malcolm and Angus,

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Speaker 2: they went searching for a lead singer and they saw

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Speaker 2: this guy, Brian Johnson singing for Jordie on the floor,

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Speaker 2: doing contortions while singing, and they said, that's our guy.

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Speaker 2: And it was quite a fine as he contributed greatly

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Speaker 2: to what ac DC did over the latter part of

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Speaker 2: their existence. He's in the Rock and Roll Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame class of two thousand and three with the rest

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Speaker 2: of ac DC. And I suppose I can tell this

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Speaker 2: now because my good friend Jerry Springer has not been

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Speaker 2: around unfortunately for a couple of years now. But when

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Speaker 2: I visited Jerry down in Sarasota and we talked about

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Speaker 2: the neighborhood he lived in and just how wonderful it was,

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Speaker 2: and it was, it was a beautiful neighborhood down there underwater.

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Speaker 2: And one of his neighbors was Brian Johnson. And man,

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Speaker 2: what a neighborhood that must have been. A Johnson's seventy

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Speaker 2: eight years old. Today, ac DC, all right on the

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Speaker 2: show Today we have Lee Stirling, of course, paramount Sports.

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Speaker 2: He will get you all kinds of winners for you.

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Speaker 2: And then down the road John Breach any hope for

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Speaker 2: the Bengals in two and two? And coming up at

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Speaker 2: eleven thirty six a book about the Big Red Machine.

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Speaker 2: But not just any book. It was written by a

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Speaker 2: guy who grew up a fan, went to work and

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Speaker 2: covered the team for the Inquirer. And now Terrence Moore

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Speaker 2: has written My Big Red Machine, the tales drama of

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Speaker 2: a fan turned journalist covering Baseball's greatest team. All that

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Speaker 2: and more coming up between now and noon. And as

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Speaker 2: you know, I am passionate about a lot of things, sports,

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Speaker 2: from the BMW store right here in Cincinnati. Did you

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Speaker 2: know there are over three hundred and fifty BMWSS in

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Speaker 2: the United States. There's only one BMW store ten minutes

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Speaker 2: north of downtown Cincinnati, right off that Stuart Road exit,

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Speaker 2: all of that at v BMW store. Ten o'clock. Coming

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Speaker 2: up after the news, Matt Snyder on your Reds. They're done,

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Speaker 2: but what's the best case scenario for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: It's all part of Sunday Morning Sports Talk on seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: News, Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati.

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Speaker 15: A possible end to the war in Gaza is inside

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Speaker 15: with the ten o'clock report. I'm Sandy Collins, breaking now

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Speaker 15: as the second year mark approaches since the Hamas massacre

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Speaker 15: in Israel. It's Tuesday, October seventh. A peace plan announced

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Speaker 15: last week is triggering a new round of indirect talks

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Speaker 15: between Israel and Hamas. They're set to start tomorrow in Egypt.

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Speaker 15: US Secretary of State Marco Rubio on ABC's This Week

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Speaker 15: This Morning says he's hopeful, but progress must be made

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Speaker 15: within days.

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Speaker 25: We're hoping it'll be finalized very quickly early this week,

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Speaker 25: and I'm hoping, you know again, who knows the timeline,

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Speaker 25: but this cannot take weeks or even multiple days. We

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Speaker 25: want to see this happen very fast. If it doesn't,

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Speaker 25: then I think the entire deal becomes in periled.

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Speaker 15: President Trump's twenty point proposal will end the war in Gaza.

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Speaker 15: Both Israel and Hamas have indicated support for it, but

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Speaker 15: those conditions still need to be negotiated. Latest traffic and

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Speaker 15: weather together no issues right now. If you're coming up

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Speaker 15: from Florence area, the travel times are normal and there

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Speaker 15: are no accidents on the highways in Cincinnati now.

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Speaker 26: advanced dentistry the thought of the dentist making you a

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Speaker 17: A beautiful day across the tri State with above average temperatures.

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Speaker 17: Heights would be in the mid eighties to day with

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Speaker 17: most of the sunny skies. Big changes are ahead for

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Speaker 17: the week. I isolated Mareene chances on Monday and then

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Speaker 17: hire Raene chances on Tuesday, and then cooling down because

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Speaker 17: of a coal front would pass us Tuesday into Wednesday.

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Speaker 17: Temperatures would drop into the upper sixties and low seventies

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Speaker 17: from your severe weather station. I'm nine first one and

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Speaker 17: meteorologist kJ Jacobson's radio seven hundred WLW A CRISP.

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Speaker 19: Sixty seven degrees.

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Speaker 15: Right now in the Tri State News is a service

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Speaker 15: of coordinated financial plan. We now know the name of

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Speaker 15: the man shot and killed yesterday in Rose Lawn.

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Speaker 19: Please say.

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Speaker 15: Thirty five year old Kenny Townsend died on Summit Road

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Speaker 15: just west of Reading. Neighbors in this area say that

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Speaker 15: that addresses a hotspot for drug crimes. No suspects have

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Speaker 15: been named. A Cincinnati man who suffered a head injury

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Speaker 15: during a fight on West eighth Street this week has died.

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Speaker 19: Please say.

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Speaker 15: Fifty four year old Spencer Morris was involved in a

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Speaker 15: physical altercation Thursday and was taken to University Hospital, where

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Speaker 15: he died the next day. Cincinnati, please say nothing about

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Speaker 15: a suspect in their release. They're not not indicating that

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Speaker 15: they're looking for anyone at this point. A Cincinnati man

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Speaker 15: has been missing since Friday and police are asking for

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Speaker 15: help and finding him.

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Speaker 27: And endangered missing adult alert remains active for an elderly

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Speaker 27: man who doesn't have access to his medication. Eighty one

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Speaker 27: year old Ronald Donaldson was last seen leaving his residence

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Speaker 27: around ten thirty Friday morning in Hamilton County. He's six

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Speaker 27: foot one, about two hundred pounds, with gray hair, one

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Speaker 27: gray eye and one brown eye, and has diabetes and dementia.

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Speaker 27: He was last seen with a black and yellow shirt,

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Speaker 27: blue pants, brown sandals, and might have a gray sweatshirt

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Speaker 27: on hand. If you know where Donaldson is, you're asked

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Speaker 27: to call nine one one or the Cincinnati Emergency Communications Center.

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Speaker 27: I'm Ley Mawen News Radio seven hundred WLW seven hundred

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Speaker 27: WLW Sports.

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Speaker 28: It is not an upset, it is an uprising, as

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Speaker 28: Cincinnati knocks off undefeated fourteenth rank Dios State by the

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Speaker 28: final score up thirty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 29: There you heard it from Dan Horde. The UC Bearcats

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Speaker 29: upset undefeated number fourteen Iowa State at sold out Nippert

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Speaker 29: Stadium with a score of thirty eight to thirty. The

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Speaker 29: Bearcats jumped out to a big lead, scoring seventeen points

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Speaker 29: in the first quarter, and would hold a comfortable lead

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Speaker 29: throughout the rest of the game. Quarterback Brendan Soarsby completed

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Speaker 29: thirteen of twenty five passes for two hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 29: yards and two touchdowns going to Joe Royer and Caleb Goody.

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Speaker 29: Running Back Evan Pryor rush for ten carries, one hundred

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Speaker 29: and eleven yards and two touchdowns. I'm Bretdy Hopkins, News

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Speaker 29: Radio seven hundred WLW and the.

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Speaker 15: Bengals today four to twenty five against the Lions. The

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Speaker 15: forecast kickoff temperature about eighty five degrees. The Bengals gamed

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Speaker 15: I'm Sandy Collins. Next update at ten thirty on news

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Speaker 15: Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 19: This report is sponsored by Think it Up. Think it

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Speaker 2: To a play now.

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday morning Sports Talk

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Speaker 1: with your host Ken Brew on news Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: We have NFL football already underway across the pond in London.

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Speaker 2: Vikings and Browns tied at seven at the end of

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Speaker 2: the first quarters they play on. The Vikings have been

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Speaker 2: over there for a while, but any event, the Vikings

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Speaker 2: with Dylan Gabriel and quarterback, tied with the Browns with

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel a quarterback, tied with the Vikings after one

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Speaker 2: and somebody said that that's the first time an NFL

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Speaker 2: quarterback has made his debut on foreign soil, and if

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Speaker 2: you think about the recency at least of these European games,

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Speaker 2: that probably is a don't have the exact research in

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Speaker 2: front of me, But Dylan Gabriel at the helm for

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Speaker 2: the Browns seven to seven with the Vikings after one

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Speaker 2: quarter of football. The Red season came to an end

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Speaker 2: this week. It came to an end with a thud

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Speaker 2: after a couple of losses in the wild Card round

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Speaker 2: of the Dodgers. The Dodgers have moved on. In fact,

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers last night beat the Phillies five to three.

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Speaker 2: Game two in that National League Division Series is coming

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Speaker 2: up tomorrow at six. Two games today, both in the

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Speaker 2: American League. Game two between the Tigers and the Mariners

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Speaker 2: Tigers up one game to none. Game two between the

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays and the Yankees. The Blue Jays winning Game

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Speaker 2: one last night ten to one. And as I said,

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Speaker 2: the National League Series continues tomorrow night Dodgers, Phillies, Cubs Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee also up a game on the Chicago Cubs. But

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Speaker 2: as for the Reds, look, you can look at their

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Speaker 2: participation in the playoffs any number of ways, half full,

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Speaker 2: half empty. Was the Mets collapse that got them in?

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Speaker 2: Was it key wins for the Reds down the road

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Speaker 2: that got them in? Either way, it was a season

868
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: that was a season that was entertaining at the very least,

869
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: and a season that had a lot of accomplishments along

870
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: the way. Here's Terry Francona after it was all over.

871
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 14: I thought our group from day one was a special group.

872
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 14: We did not accomplish what we set out to do.

873
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 14: That takes away nothing from what me and the coaches

874
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 14: feel about those guys.

875
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: Matt Snyder covers baseball for cbssports dot Com. He's standing

876
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: by to join us, and I want to ask Matt too,

877
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: but what this team needs to do, I mean, tangibly

878
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: needs to do to go to that next level in

879
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: the offseason, and they're multiple things in my opinion. Let's

880
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: see what he says Matt, how are you on this

881
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: glorious Sunday.

882
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 10: I'm great.

883
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 11: I am looking forward to the ensuing rounds of the playoffs.

884
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 11: Really good Wildcard round actually, I mean other than you

885
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 11: know the locally, Yeah, but three Game three is it's

886
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 11: the first time we've had that really really.

887
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 10: Good action and really all three of the game threes.

888
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 11: I mean, we had a late surgeon offensively for the

889
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 11: Tigers Cubs Potters was.

890
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 10: A complete nail bider. Yeah.

891
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 11: And you know in the Yankees Red Sox game, James

892
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 11: Slitler just went out and made ahead of historic performance

893
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 11: for a rookie.

894
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

895
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're you're dead on it all. All

896
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: of that. Of course, the one that turned out to

897
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 2: be the least competitive was the Reds and the Dodgers. Look,

898
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways this year, Terry

899
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: francona squeeze blood out of a turnip, and there's some

900
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: in game things that have drawn the ire of the

901
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: local fan base on social media. That happens in all

902
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: thirty Major League Baseball towns. But by and large, I

903
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: think the guy did a pretty darn good job this year.

904
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: What do you consider his ace was out for two

905
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: months Austin Hayes, whom they counted on greatly, had three

906
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: stints on the IL. And you know over and above

907
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: that players were playing out a position. Martego is to

908
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: right field. That worked out great, but he started the

909
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: year at third base. I think by and large, Francona

910
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: did okay here with what he was given to work with.

911
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 10: What about you totally agree? I mean, look, it's great.

912
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 11: American Ballpark is a ballpark that conducive to power. And

913
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 11: the Reds ring twenty first in baseball and home runs

914
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 11: this season, and that is the best possible.

915
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 10: Thing you can do on offense.

916
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 11: And it's not like they're stealing a ton of bases.

917
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 11: It's not like you go back to the mid eighties

918
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 11: and those Cardinals teams where they didn't have a ton

919
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 11: of power, but they ran all day. Like you basically

920
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 11: have what Ellie obviously, but Pat that maybe Matt McClain,

921
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 11: maybe TJ. Friedel, a little bit of Mark Day, but

922
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 11: like they need more power in that lineup. It's as

923
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 11: simple as that. And as you as you mentioned, Hunter

924
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 11: Green miss time he had to mess with. Francona had

925
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 11: to mess so much with the bullpen early in the season.

926
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 10: I mean died was the closer they can.

927
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 11: Here right right right, Yeah.

928
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: And the guy he thought was going to close this

929
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: year wound up fishing for three major league teams. I mean,

930
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Alesis Dias was was toast And yeah, there's I think

931
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: a lot of times you get lost in the outcome

932
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: as opposed to the journey to the outcome.

933
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, and look, I think it was a long time ago,

934
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 11: but Baseball Perspective at one point compiled a series of

935
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 11: either Internet comments or tweets or what have you for

936
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 11: every single manager in baseball, where every single fan base

937
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 11: thought their manager was off at Bolton management because if

938
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 11: the Bolton doesn't have a zero point zero zero era

939
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 11: in one inherited runners stranded, then it was a terrible decision.

940
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 11: Every single time a Bolton gives up a run, it's

941
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 11: the worst decision ever.

942
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 10: I imagine that's where most of the complaints came from.

943
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 11: And I guess the other thing would probably be line up.

944
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 10: There's always lineup complaints. He always should have done something

945
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 10: differently with the lineup.

946
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 11: But I I mean, there's a reason that Terry Francona

947
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 11: is known as one of the best managers of all time.

948
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 10: And you look at.

949
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 11: There were improvements across the board for this team this season,

950
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 11: and there were shortfalls from some players. I guess I

951
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 11: shouldn't sat across the board. Some players feel like they

952
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 11: should have hit better, and what you get is a

953
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 11: team that I'm sorry, no offense intended, and you probably

954
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 11: won't take any but it was not really a playoff

955
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 11: caliber team, even though it made the playoffs.

956
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 10: Getting in the playoff.

957
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 11: And getting their teeth kicked in by the defending champs

958
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 11: who are on the flip side a lot better than

959
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 11: their record.

960
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does highlight the fact that if you look

961
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: at their roster composition, there's something that is missing that

962
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: has been crying out here for a while, and that

963
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: is a bat that they can put in that three

964
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: or four hole that can deliver in critical times, be

965
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: it a double, be it a fly ball that gets

966
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: a runner in from third. And I think in the

967
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: off season that's probably what they have to look at most. Sure,

968
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: the bullpen needs to be tweaked and and and reconstructed

969
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: frankly in some ways, but I think you know they

970
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: got snake bit by what they did with Mike Mustakas

971
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: that didn't work out. Then here comes Jmr Candelario, who

972
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: is a complete bust when he arrived here. Now, so

973
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: maybe they were hedging their bets here at the deadline.

974
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: But I think in this off season they've really got

975
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: to address the middle of that batting order, don't they.

976
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: You know yet?

977
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 10: They need some thunder for sure.

978
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 11: I think these names are not necessarily out of reach

979
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 11: financially for the Reds, But I don't think they're going

980
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 11: to be swimming in this school.

981
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 10: But the two guys who stick out.

982
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 11: To me right away are Pete Alonzo. Again, I don't

983
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 11: need to hear like from an ear listeners CBS Sports

984
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 11: Front reporter connect to the Reds.

985
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 10: No, no, this is knee sing This is knee saying.

986
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 11: You throw Pete Alonzo in the middle of that order,

987
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 11: and all of a sudden, everybody else looks a lot

988
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 11: better because now you have a guy who can hit

989
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 11: forty to forty five home runs, right, and that just

990
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 11: makes everybody looked that much better. Another guy who grew

991
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 11: up in the area, Kyle Swarber. Now, again, I don't

992
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 11: think the Philliers are going to let Swarbur go. From

993
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 11: everything that we've heard, it seems like he's not even

994
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 11: going to be an option.

995
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 10: But if he is an option, I think that is

996
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 10: somebody who we're not talking about.

997
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 11: Hey, let's get a guy who might hit twenty to

998
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 11: twenty five home runs.

999
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 10: You have guys there.

1000
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 11: I'm talking about the big time, elite level thunder.

1001
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 10: So again, I don't think the Reds are going to

1002
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 10: do any one of those.

1003
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 11: But those are the types of guys that I don't care.

1004
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 11: If it's all bad, I don't care. The Reds need

1005
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 11: a lot more power presence in the middle of that

1006
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 11: batting order.

1007
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Schwarber is probably going to be a

1008
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: thirty million dollar a year ballplayer, is what he's going

1009
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: to be. There's twenty million coming off the books with

1010
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: Nick Martinez. So I mean, there are a number of

1011
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: ways to play, to play the numbers game. But I

1012
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: looked at the Dodgers and I looked at the Reds.

1013
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: The forty roster on Los Angeles, four hundred and three

1014
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: million for the red Yeah, and that nine million. You

1015
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: can't look. Dollars buy things in baseball. At buys, speed, advice, power,

1016
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: ad buys, pitching. It's it's it's it's as old as

1017
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: the game, well as old as free agency, as itself.

1018
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: They got the money. Every owner in baseball is making money,

1019
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: aren't they made?

1020
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1021
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 10: They are. They do need to spend more. I would

1022
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 10: like to. I'm not necessarily a salary cap guy, but I.

1023
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 11: Definitely think there's there should be a little bit more

1024
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 11: equity because I mean, look, the doctors are really really

1025
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 11: good at finding bargain. If you go to like the

1026
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 11: Tasker Hernandez, Max Munky, part of the batting order. They

1027
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 11: they locked up Will Smith on a long term deal,

1028
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 11: but before that he was a homegrown catcher.

1029
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 10: You know, other teams had access to guys like that.

1030
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 11: But the separation point is being able to carry rookie

1031
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 11: bets Freddy Freeman and Shoho.

1032
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 10: Tani on the same roger and those guys one, two three.

1033
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 10: That's where you're like, all right, this isn't fair.

1034
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 2: Come on, no, So yeah, I mean you got Otani

1035
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: at seventy million, Bets at twenty five million, forty Freeman

1036
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: at twenty seven million. I mean, yeah, you got it.

1037
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 10: It's just not fair.

1038
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: It raises the question though, a year from now, a

1039
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: year and a couple of months from now, the current

1040
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: collective bargaining Agreement expires, and I would wonder at this

1041
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: point if the ownership group, whoever does the negotiation, doesn't

1042
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: try and get some sort of salary cap, some sort

1043
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: of at least competitive balance from a financial standpoint. Inside

1044
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: the lake the you know, the union is going to

1045
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: scream at how and has won at every step in

1046
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: the way when this has been raised before. But the

1047
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: game's not healthy when it comes to things like that.

1048
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 10: I agree, and I think we're going to have a problem.

1049
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 10: I think we're going to miss some games. The owners look.

1050
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 11: Rob Banfords, the Commissioner of Baseball, which technically, by definition is.

1051
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 10: Supposed to be neutral, but come on, the owners hire him.

1052
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 10: He works for the owners. He's the one last time

1053
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 10: that when.

1054
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 11: The owners lock the players out and the players are like,

1055
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 11: we're trying to negotiate, why do you lock us out?

1056
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 11: And Manford said, well, it was a defensive lockout, the

1057
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 11: first time we've ever heard.

1058
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 10: A defensive lockout. He's made a bunch of commons since then.

1059
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 11: That suggests the owners are serious this time and there

1060
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 11: is going to be a fight. And there aren't many

1061
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 11: owners left like Steve Cohen who want to go crazy.

1062
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 10: Who is what's the mess? In case your listeners aren't

1063
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 10: sure who want.

1064
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 11: To go crazy spending and want to out spend everybody.

1065
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 11: Like if you look at some of the other mega

1066
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 11: market teams such as the Cubs who just advanced in

1067
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 11: the playoffs, there were eleventh on payroll this year.

1068
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 10: The Cubs should be top five and spending, no questions asked,

1069
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 10: But there are eleventh.

1070
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 11: And Tom Ricketts has dropped a lot of hints about

1071
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 11: not wanting to continue to spend so much on payroll

1072
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 11: and he's more focused on player development and different.

1073
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 10: Things like that and not having to send as much.

1074
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 11: I believe their biggest contract of all time is still

1075
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 11: Jason Hayward. Dancy Swanson's up there, but they're not. They

1076
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 11: have not gone over two hundred million for any player,

1077
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 11: So I think Rangers Texas Rangers another one. They've sent

1078
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 11: huge on Corey seeger Marcus Simon. They won that championship.

1079
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 11: What's the first thing we heard if they won the championship, Well,

1080
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 11: they want to dial back payroll.

1081
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want a championship crazy. Yeah, I know, that's nuts.

1082
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 11: So I think that in the past it's been the

1083
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Speaker 11: players obviously will not accept the salary cap, and there's

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Speaker 11: a divide and ownership where a lot of the big

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00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 11: the mega market owners still want to keep spending, and

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00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 11: there's enough of them that that kind of tilts the scales.

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Speaker 11: I think the owners are getting closer and closer to

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Speaker 11: a unified front to where they're going to take a

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Speaker 11: stand and so to speak, for all line in the sands.

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Speaker 2: And they're in lies the great possibility of losing games

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty sixth season. Yeah, Matt Snyder is

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Speaker 2: our guest. We're talking Reds Baseball. Put a cap around

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Speaker 2: the season. Well, a couple of things here. One, I

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Speaker 2: think Ellie data Cruz continues to be an elite player offensively, defensively,

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Speaker 2: No where do you think they have to move him

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Speaker 2: to get him out of that shortstop spot? And can

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Speaker 2: they really afford for a full one sixty two keep

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Speaker 2: Brian Hayes and Matt McClain in the same batting order,

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Speaker 2: because it would seem the best you're going to get

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Speaker 2: out of those guys in any game is going to

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Speaker 2: be two for eight.

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Speaker 10: S key.

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Speaker 11: Brian sticks out like it's sore thumb to me, because

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Speaker 11: he's such a good defender at third base and that

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00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 11: is important, but gosh, he just can't hit, and he's

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Speaker 11: going to age twenty nine season next year. You're at

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Speaker 11: the point where that's just what you are offensively, and

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Speaker 11: that's traditionally been a spot where you need not only

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Speaker 11: a good hitter, but a power hitter at third base,

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Speaker 11: and I just talked about how the resonate power.

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Speaker 10: It just it just seems like it's not a great

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00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 10: fit there. Well.

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Speaker 11: The other thing is, though, if you're going to have

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Speaker 11: that guy there because he's so good defensively, you have

1115
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 11: to make up for that offensively in other spot. So

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 11: that means Matt McClain needs to hit like he did

1117
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 11: as a rookie, that it hit like you did this year,

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00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 11: and if they believe that he can.

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Speaker 10: Get to that point, that's fine. He played well.

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Speaker 11: He played over half of the season as a rookie,

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 11: so it's not like it was ten games. It was

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Speaker 11: a good sample, but this year there was. It wasn't

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Speaker 11: just a lack of progress.

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Speaker 10: It was two steps back. So are you sure he's

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Speaker 10: going to be that good next year?

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Speaker 11: Because you need a lot In terms of the Ellie question,

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 11: I just watched Fernando Tazzis play unbelievable right field. You

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Speaker 11: can put any kind of an athlete like that in

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Speaker 11: the outfield, which Ellie de la Cruz is one of

1130
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 11: the few guys who he could say has as much athleticism,

1131
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 11: if not more than Fernando Tatzis.

1132
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 10: Or if you have that kind of athleticism.

1133
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 11: You can play outfield, you can learn it, and you

1134
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 11: saw it to an extent with Marte this year with

1135
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 11: no professional experience in the outfield, getting thrown out there.

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 10: By the end of the year, he's.

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00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 11: Making what was at the time of season saving robbery

1138
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 11: hit the wall.

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Speaker 10: These three are tied together for me. If you're gonna

1140
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 10: use Brian Hayes a third base, you.

1141
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 11: Have to get more offense out of Matt McClain, and

1142
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 11: then you have to figure out who you're going to

1143
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 11: add to the team that can hit for power and

1144
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 11: maybe moving Ali da la Cruz to the outfield solve

1145
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 11: the defensive woes and opens up the spot where you

1146
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 11: can add off the.

1147
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Speaker 2: All right, Matt Sneider read him on cbssports dot com.

1148
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 2: Stay well, my friend will visit down the road. Thank

1149
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: you to now you know. The the Schwarberg thing is interesting.

1150
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: He made twenty million this year. He's a free agent.

1151
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: I would guess after a fifty six home run season,

1152
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: he's going to be a thirty million dollar year year player.

1153
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: Alonzo already is a thirty million dollar a year player,

1154
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: and he's going he can get out of his contract.

1155
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: There's a player option for him after this year, so

1156
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: he's already at thirty mil. They're both around thirty in

1157
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: terms of age. Schwarberg is thirty two, Alonso is thirty.

1158
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: It would be a one point eighty for this team

1159
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: to this team being the Reds, to pursue players like this,

1160
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: and there may be other options out there for them

1161
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: as well. We'll see exactly what develops in the offseason.

1162
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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a, you know, a fantasy

1163
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: to think that either one of those guys would be

1164
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Speaker 2: in a Reds lineup next year. But look, you if

1165
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: you really believe you've got a nucleus to win and

1166
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Speaker 2: win big, and you know that you're one glaring spot,

1167
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Speaker 2: there are other spots that kind of stood at. One

1168
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: glaring spot was not having the bat in the middle

1169
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Speaker 2: of your lineup and you really want to win, there's

1170
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 2: the caveat and you really want to win, then you've

1171
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: got to pursue. You got to be a player on

1172
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Speaker 2: that stage. There are no participation ribbons in Major League

1173
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Speaker 2: Baseball or any other sport for that matter. What matters

1174
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Speaker 2: is who's holding the trophy. At the end of the

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Speaker 2: year ten twenty four, Lee Sterling is still ahead. He's

1176
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Speaker 2: got some great games to break down today, games he

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Speaker 2: thinks will win you some money. It's all straight ahead

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred.

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Speaker 15: When I listen to Willie, I feel better about things.

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Speaker 2: Remember, my friend Willy is here for you.

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Speaker 31: Everyone says how smart dolphins are, but Bill Cunningham is

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Speaker 31: way smarter.

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Speaker 19: Let me help ease your concerns, keep you informed.

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Speaker 2: Has a dolphin ever won a Marconi Award? No, but

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Speaker 2: Bill's won two of those suckers. Open your ears and

1186
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Speaker 2: hear my mighty words of hope.

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Speaker 32: Bill Cunningham tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 15: America's River Roots Festival is a kickoff of.

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Speaker 2: That them Ken Brew Sunday Morning Sports Talk. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: are two and two. It sure doesn't feel that way

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Speaker 2: after the last couple of weeks. And uh, you don't

1212
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: have to tell Zach Taylor that because it probably doesn't

1213
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: feel that way to him. I mean, two wins, two losses,

1214
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: beats zero to four. I mean, he knows that, but

1215
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Speaker 2: he also knows this.

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Speaker 3: It has our standard been acceptable on every single play

1217
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Speaker 3: in the last two games, I would say it hasn't been,

1218
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: so you gotta look within yourself. Is my standard acceptable?

1219
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 3: What Hey, it wasn't that bad, But that bad is

1220
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Speaker 3: not good enough. It's got to be great. And this week,

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Speaker 3: on a short week, I expect our guys to hold

1222
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Speaker 3: themselves at standard all hold them fast standard, hold myself

1223
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Speaker 3: best standard.

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Speaker 4: That we have to be great. We can't. We can't.

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Speaker 3: Anything less than that is unacceptable right now where we're at,

1226
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Speaker 3: we just got to find a way to get our

1227
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Speaker 3: third win and get it quickly and build on that

1228
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Speaker 3: momentum from that.

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Speaker 2: Now, gotta be great against a team like Detroit. The

1230
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Speaker 2: line on this game is morphing. It's between ten. You

1231
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: can find it some places at ten and a half.

1232
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's been double digits all week. And

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Speaker 2: that tells you a number of things, not the least

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Speaker 2: of which that the smart guys don't have a lot

1235
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Speaker 2: of faith and in the Bengals in this one. But

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Speaker 2: what about Lee Sterling? What about our guy at Paramount Sports.

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Speaker 2: We dial him up every single Sunday during the NFL

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Speaker 2: he is standing by to join us right now from

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Speaker 2: his headquarters down in South Florida. Lee, how are you

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Speaker 2: on this glorious Sunday?

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Speaker 4: Goodn't many better?

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Speaker 34: We've won eleven straight NFL games, so looking to keep

1245
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Speaker 34: that on a roll. I think this is the most

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Speaker 34: we've ever won in a row in the NBA and

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Speaker 34: the NFL. So we keep this going. If we get

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Speaker 34: up to like fourteen fifteen sixteen, I'm expecting a parade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a parade. I'm expecting you building a house of

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Speaker 2: Barbados and inviting me down to visit you every single

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Speaker 2: every single winter. Let's talk about that instead of a parade, lady.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good.

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Speaker 34: I'm how second that is? Yeah, anyone wants to get

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Speaker 34: involved in a couple of different ways. We don't call

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Speaker 34: it October.

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Speaker 34: I'd never done this for say two hundred, so I'm

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Speaker 34: in a great mood.

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Speaker 34: dot com or you want to fight today. We went

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Speaker 34: five to zero last week on the games. We gave

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Speaker 34: out on the five for fifty five, five for fifty five.

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Speaker 34: Like I said, hop on board, give us a try

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Speaker 2: Paramount sports dot com. Lee in a generous mood. We

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Speaker 2: like that, Lee in a generous mood. We got a

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Speaker 2: couple of one in three teams today. We got the

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans at the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens amazingly getting too.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's all Lamar driven, but they are really

1278
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Speaker 2: banged up, as you well know, Leon defense and for

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Speaker 2: Houston at the Ravens, then next week at Seattle and

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Speaker 2: then the forty nine ers after that. Three tough games

1281
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Speaker 2: for Houston coming up, starting today at the Ravens. And

1282
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Speaker 2: they got to give too. What do you think?

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Speaker 34: But There is a trend here.

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Speaker 10: Teams before the.

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Speaker 34: Bye and the Texans next week are on a buy

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Speaker 34: fifty eight percent this decade. So there's obviously these teams

1287
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Speaker 34: are getting focused before they take off for the week,

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Speaker 34: and they want to go out and get the job done.

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Speaker 34: They got Christian kirkback last week. Derek Stingley Junior, the

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Speaker 34: best cornerback back offensive line actually blocked a little bit

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Speaker 34: and passed pro And I think that they sign should

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Speaker 34: be higher. Cooper Rush, I mean, had a couple of

1293
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Speaker 34: decent games here, but I mean Lamar Jackson stirs to

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Speaker 34: drink here in the crowd. I mean, they could be

1295
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Speaker 34: just showing up because they bought tickets and they've got

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 34: nothing else to do in Baltimore. I like Houston here.

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Speaker 10: I think they win this game here twenty eight, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about the points. Yeah, that's it. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the defense has just been atrocious Commanders today at two

1300
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Speaker 2: and two with the three and one Chargers, Chargers are

1301
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: giving three in this game. Everybody's making a big deal

1302
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Speaker 2: lee about the wide receivers being banged up for Washington.

1303
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: They give up some big plays. Have you seen them

1304
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: defensively not good.

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Speaker 34: Yeah, So I thought the Chargers blew it last week

1306
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 34: and it wasn't the fact that Giants were good. I

1307
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 34: thought the problem was their offensive assistant and what happened,

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Speaker 34: Greg Roman, offensive coordinator at a fifty four plays, called

1309
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 34: only thirteen runs. You've got to have balance here. So

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 34: now they're down Sam cost me is Washington, They're going

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 34: to try to protect Jayden Daniels without Kerry McLaurin playing

1312
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 34: this game.

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01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 10: Did not travel with the team here.

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Speaker 34: And La, we know is down their top two offensive

1315
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 34: lineman now because alts out. So LA's only two rushing

1316
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 34: touchdowns in four games. So both these teams, I think

1317
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 34: they want to protect their quarterback. They know it's a

1318
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 34: long season year, and offensive lines not up to snuff.

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Speaker 34: So played very conservative and then two actually pretty good

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Speaker 34: defenses here. I'm going to take a different approach to

1321
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Speaker 34: this game. We're gonna go under forty eight total point.

1322
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 34: I think it's a better way to approach this game.

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at the you're looking at the total

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Speaker 2: here as opposed to know the line or anything. Okay,

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Speaker 2: under forty eight, Okay, you got the two and two Broncos.

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Speaker 2: We saw the Broncos last week out in Denver, they're

1327
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Speaker 2: at the Eagles. Eagles are four and oh. Eagles are

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: given three and a half Philadelphia. The blitz rate is

1329
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: high for that team, and it's working Denver's front four.

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01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: I thought this is interesting. The front four generates a

1331
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: lot of heat. They don't often blitz, and when you

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: blitz Philadelphia, you tend to lose. This is an interesting

1333
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: chess match here. Defensively, don't you think Eagles minus three

1334
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: and a half?

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Speaker 34: Yeah, I think it's a bad matchup here for Philadelphia.

1336
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 34: Let's look at who they played so far. Opening week

1337
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 34: to play Dallas, who they had beaten twice last year.

1338
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 34: You know, Dallas gave him their best shot. Okay, they

1339
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 34: won that game. Then they had to play the Chiefs.

1340
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 34: They played and beaten the Super Bowl. You know, Chiefs

1341
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 34: going to give them.

1342
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: A good run.

1343
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 34: Then the Division round revenge against the Rams. Rams were

1344
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 34: ready for that game, should have won the game, blockfield

1345
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 34: goal for a touchdown. Then they traveled to Tampa, played

1346
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 34: a great first half, but had nothing left in the

1347
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 34: second half, could generate no offense at all, and you know,

1348
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 34: somehow came with a win. Now the team they're not

1349
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 34: familiar with. Talk about the style of play here? How

1350
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 34: do they be effective?

1351
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 10: This Philadelphia Eagles team? How do they get to the quarterback?

1352
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 34: The two defensive tackles generate pressure when you sit in

1353
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 34: the pocket, Bo Nicks, you're not sitting in the pocket.

1354
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: They're rolling them out probably eight out of ten times.

1355
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 35: So it's a style.

1356
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 34: Next week they play another division opponent here the Giants

1357
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 34: on a short week. Are you Kidney perfect?

1358
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 4: Here?

1359
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 34: And also Lane Johnson shoulder injury even if he plays,

1360
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 34: he's not one hundred percent and the top two out

1361
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 34: of three linebackers are out for Philadelphia. Here up say

1362
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 34: the weekend run team favorite Denver straight up twenty seven

1363
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 34: to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four, twenty seven twenty four Denver. Denver looked like I mean,

1365
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: they won obviously last it was an ugly game, but

1366
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: they look like they're ready to break out. The Chiefs

1367
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: are getting better at wide receiver Lai the two and

1368
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: two they're at the Jags this week. Today Jags are

1369
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: three and one, they could be four and oh and

1370
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: they're getting three and a half at home in this game.

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Speaker 34: This looks well, Yeah, give Liam Cohen credit here. What

1372
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 34: are you doing? They're trying to play sound defense, run

1373
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 34: the football, and also play solid special teams. If you

1374
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 34: do that, Trevor Lawrence, who is okay, not great, doesn't

1375
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 34: have to throw the ball forty forty five times. So

1376
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 34: I think this is a great situational play here for

1377
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 34: Kansas City. Whatever Jacksonville does a Chiefs do it better

1378
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 34: on defense and special teams. They got back to Javier

1379
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 34: Worthy here. I'm going to keep riding Kansas City twenty eight.

1380
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty eight to twenty KC. All right, we've already

1381
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: talked about Paramount Sports two hundred dollars off for the

1382
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: next four weeks and five or fifty five today, Lee, Today,

1383
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: we got the Bengals at home, and everybody knows what's

1384
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 2: happened in the last couple of weeks. Lions are three

1385
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: and one in they're in here. This is a ten

1386
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: point line right now. Bengals plus ten at home. That's

1387
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: a large number in any game. Bengals plus ten at home.

1388
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any way they that the Lions

1389
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: went outright or do you think there's a way that somehow,

1390
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: some way Bengals and the points is to play. How

1391
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: do you see this?

1392
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 34: Okay, So I'm looking at the offense. Cincinnati's offense and

1393
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 34: the numbers are awful. The adjustment from Joe Burrow obviously

1394
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 34: has not been good. First week, turnover after turnover at Minnesota.

1395
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 34: Then they played Denver and they're punning, punting and more punting.

1396
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Speaker 34: I'm looking at all the analytics here, looking from every formation,

1397
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 34: things like you know, twelve formation, one, running back.

1398
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: Two tight end, every formation. They have negative EPA here.

1399
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 34: So good teams when they come home after two road

1400
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 34: losses usually rally and pick up a win somehow. But

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 34: the Bengals are not a good team. The Alliance might

1402
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 34: be one of the top three teams here in the country.

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01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 34: I like Detroit. They double up here Cincinnati thirty four.

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: To seventeen, thirty four to seventeen. All right, well, somehow,

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: some way, one would hope that it gets better. Don't

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01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: know how soon, but one would hope. All right, lady, listen,

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: good stuff. We'll talk again next week, Okay, see you, yeah, yeah.

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: Bengals have the second worst point differential in football right now,

1409
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 2: at minus fifty eight. Only Tennessee at minus sixty nine

1410
01:12:55,240 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: is worse. I don't know, I mean, I'm trying to

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: look at this objectively, I just don't think it's going

1412
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: to be the kick and the teeth that everybody's talking about.

1413
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: I really don't.

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Speaker 34: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go out there and say, hey,

1416
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals are going to win today, but ten at home.

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: Vegas is known for sucker bets, and this might be

1418
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Speaker 2: one of those sucker bets.

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01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: But I just.

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Speaker 2: I just have a feeling that the team is underperformed

1421
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: without Burrow. It is underperformed obviously for the last two weeks,

1422
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: underperformed tremendously in the last two weeks. But I'm not

1423
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Speaker 2: ready to say, hey, take the Lions and lay the points.

1424
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Speaker 2: In fact, I'm not going to say that. He likes

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 2: the Texans Ravens at home getting too but the Ravens

1426
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: are just a mess. Lamar out. The interioror defense is

1427
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: just it's been gutted. He likes the one in three

1428
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: Texans to go to two and three. The Ravens, who

1429
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 2: go to one and four, he says, layoff the Commanders,

1430
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Speaker 2: and the Chargers don't play the game. Play the number,

1431
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: he says, play that number. The numbers, forty Eightiesys, take

1432
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: the under Broncos and Eagles. Broncos on the road are

1433
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: getting three and a half. He's picking the Broncos to

1434
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: win straight up over the Eagles. Today in Philadelphia, the

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Speaker 2: Jags are at home, getting three and a half. Chiefs

1436
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 2: are in town. He thinks the Chiefs win. He thinks

1437
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 2: the Chiefs cover twenty eight twenty in that game, and

1438
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 2: he picks the Lions thirty four to seventeen over the Bengals.

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm not really, I'm just not going to go that far.

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going to go that far. I

1441
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: think ten is a is a really really big number,

1442
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: and I don't think the Bengals are as bad as

1443
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: the way they've played the last two weeks. We'll see.

1444
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: This is a really really interesting play here. But I mean,

1445
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: unless you're somebody that just absolutely loves the Bengals and

1446
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: you want to play the Bengals and you want to

1447
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: play that, you know, go ahead and do it. I

1448
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: think objectively, if you're looking at this game from thirty

1449
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: thousand feet, you lay off at the numbers too big. Anyway,

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01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: That's what Lee said. We'll see how he does. We'll

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: let you know next week. It is ten point fifty

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Speaker 2: the second quarter, game tied at seven. Browns on the Move.

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Speaker 2: A lot of storylines in this game go back to

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one draft when the debate in this

1474
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: town was Pena Seool or Jamar Chase. The Bengals picked

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Speaker 2: fifth that year and they took obviously Jamar Chase. Pene Sewell,

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Speaker 2: who was an eraser on the offensive line, was taken

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Speaker 2: two picks later by the Lions at number seven, And

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Speaker 2: to listen to Dan Campbell, the head coach at Detroit

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Speaker 2: this week, you wouldn't want it any other way.

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Speaker 37: Being able to get that player has been has been

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 37: huge for us.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 37: He is a pillar. He is one of our pillars,

1484
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 37: you know from day one. And he's a guy, such

1485
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 37: a tone, he's a phenomenal athlete, his work ethic, everything

1486
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Speaker 37: we've talked about up to this point, Man and so Man,

1487
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Speaker 37: we were blessed and fortunate to have him.

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: They are not that he would have been the right

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: choice here in Cincinnati, but for a team that had

1490
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: to rebuild its offensive line to play the kind of

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01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: football that Dan Campbell wanted them to play, no question,

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Speaker 2: there absolutely no question there would they like to have

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: had Jamar chasey I think so anybody would, but they're

1494
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: more than happy. The other storyline in this game that

1495
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: is interesting is David Montgomery. David Montgomery played his high

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: school ball here in Mount Healthy. Went on from Mount

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Speaker 2: Healthy to play college at collegiately at Iowa State. But

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Speaker 2: at Mount Healthy he was a hell of a football player.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that played a little quarterback, played quarterback the

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Speaker 2: ball much, but he ran, Oh man, could that guy run?

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Speaker 2: And now with the Lions and today is the first

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Speaker 2: time he will play professionally in his home city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: And this week on the Lions Podcast, their official podcast,

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Speaker 2: he was talking about that coming home, playing here in

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Speaker 2: front of the family, in front of friends, and just

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Speaker 2: all that goes into that for the very first time,

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Speaker 2: I grew up with a lot of guys gonna be

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Speaker 2: in the stand.

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Speaker 38: There's gonna be a lot of guys that I grew

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 38: up with who gonna be big Bengals fans. So I

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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 38: think it's just gonna be really really cool to see

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01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 38: like a lot of familiar faces and coming to support me,

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01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 38: and you know, throughout my entire journey and me playing

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Speaker 38: by all the same people who whould have for me

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Speaker 38: when I was in high school and toil when I

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 38: got to college and even in the NFL now, I

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Speaker 38: think it's.

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Speaker 2: Super cool to have that experience.

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Speaker 38: But like I said, like the most important thing that

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Speaker 38: I'm kind of excited about seeing my sister and seeing

1521
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 38: my nephew, So that's probably the most exciting thing.

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Speaker 2: He had a breakout game against the Ravens. Again, the

1523
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: Ravens are reeling defensively, but nevertheless, twelve carries, one hundred

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01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: and fifty one yards and a couple of touchdowns. He's

1525
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: averaging five points seven yards per carry. And you know,

1526
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,839
Speaker 2: it's not just David Montgomery in that backfield for the Lions,

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01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: and that's one of the reasons why the numbers aren't

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01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: quite as inflated as you would expect them to be.

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: But you know, he's there with Jamiir Gibbs, and so

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: the two of them kind of are, you know, a

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: Yang to the other guys yang. He had eleven carries

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: fifty seven yards. It's a five point two average against

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01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: the Bears. So that's the storyline. The other storyline is

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01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: the Lions. Their point thereferential in four games is just

1535
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: off the charts. In four games they have amassed one

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven points. So there was a question

1537
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: this week to Jake Browning. Look, I mean, you know,

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01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: all that's going on is there a little pressure to

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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 2: match that team point per point. Is there a pressure

1540
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: on the angles offense to play that game?

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 21: I mean, I think that's a dangerous, you know, trap

1542
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 21: to fall into. I think, you know, for me, I'm

1543
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 21: just going to operate the play call that I get

1544
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 21: and be really focused on making sure, you know, one

1545
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 21: play at time, just operating how it's supposed to be run.

1546
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 21: I think if you start trying to make your decisions

1547
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 21: based on what they have on offense, or you know,

1548
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 21: what they do or don't have on offense, it can

1549
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 21: be kind of a dangerous trap to fall into. So

1550
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 21: I just want to operate well. I want to keep

1551
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 21: the ball moving forward, play out of the sticks, and

1552
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 21: give our guys a chance down the field.

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01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1554
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing he doesn't want to do

1555
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: is take his team out of the game. I hate

1556
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: to use the term game management because I think that's

1557
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: disrespectful to quarterback, but I think you just don't put

1558
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: your defense in a position where they're constantly coming out

1559
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: of the hole and constantly facing one of the best

1560
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: offenses in the league. That is the game plan down

1561
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: the road, John Breach, he'll talk a little bit more

1562
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: about this game John of course sonable legend and legend

1563
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Speaker 2: in and of himself at cbssports dot com. It is

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred wl WQ, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 19: It's time to get it done.

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01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 15: This is the eleven o'clock Report. I'm Sandy Collins breaking now.

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01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 15: Secretary of State Marco Rubio says speed is paramount when

1569
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 15: it comes to a deal to end the war in Gaza.

1570
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 15: Appearing on ABC's This Week, Rubio said, this is not

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01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 15: something that can continue to drag out.

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Speaker 25: We cannot be here three weeks from now still discussing

1573
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 25: the logistics of how hostages are going to be released.

1574
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 25: That has to happen very quickly in order for the

1575
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 25: rest of this deal to gain momentum.

1576
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 15: President Trump is sending special envoys to the Middle East

1577
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 15: to try to seal his hostage release deal. Both Israel

1578
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 15: and Hamas have indicated support for the proposal, but the

1579
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 15: conditions still need to be negotiated. The Prime Minister also

1580
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 15: made it clear that an agreement with the Trump administration,

1581
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 15: talks will be confined to a few days maximum, with

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01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 15: no tolerance for maneuvers that will delay any talks by Hamas.

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01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 19: Now the latest traffic and weather together looks good.

1584
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 15: Travel through the Paddock Road construction site on I seventy

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01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 15: five is moving without delay and travel times are normal

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01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 15: in the rest of the tri State.

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 26: Now the latest forecasts from the No Fear Dentist Weather

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,440
Speaker 17: Beautiful day across the tri State with above average temperatures.

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01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 17: Heights would be in the mid eighties to day with

1593
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 17: mosty sunny skies. If big changes are ahead for the week,

1594
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 17: isolated raene chances on Monday and then higher raine chances

1595
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 17: on Tuesday, and then cooling down because of a coal

1596
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 17: front will pass us Tuesday into Wednesday, Temperatures would drop

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 17: into the upper sixties and low seventies. From your sphere

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01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 17: weather station, I'm nine first one of meteorologist kJ Jacobson's

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01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 17: radio seven hundred WLW in.

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Speaker 15: Cincinnati right now where at seventy two degrees and we'll

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Speaker 15: have a hive about eighty five this afternoon for the

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01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 15: Bengals and the Lions game kickoff is at four to

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Speaker 15: twenty five. Right here the forecast built by American Hometech.

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Speaker 15: A strong defense starts with a solid roof American Hoometech.

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Speaker 15: Dot com News is a service of Arnell Carriers and

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Speaker 15: Postman Law. A temporary restraining order against the Trump administration

1607
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 15: issued in Oregon after the announcement to federalize the Oregon

1608
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 15: National Guard to protect the ice facility in South Portland.

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01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 19: We get more from ABC's Selina Wang.

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 18: Oregon's attorney general, calling the decision a healthy check on

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 18: the president's power.

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: It's the president.

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01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 12: You must have an actual fact based on reality, not

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01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 12: social media or just your gut feeling if you want

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 12: to mobilize the military.

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01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,560
Speaker 18: The judge who was appointed by Trump saying the administration's

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01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 18: description about chaos in Portland is simply untethered to the

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01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 18: facts and the president likely exceeded his authority under the constitution.

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01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 15: Meanwhile, the president is calling up three hundred National guardsman

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01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 15: in Illinois over the objections of the governor there. He says,

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01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 15: it's on American to demand a governor to send military

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01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 15: troops within our own borders. If you work the night

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Speaker 15: shift or non traditional hours, you may want to know

1624
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 15: this folks that do that are at a greater risk

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Speaker 15: of getting kidney stones.

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01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 19: Tammy Triheo reports.

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Speaker 32: That's according to new research published in the journal Mayo

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 32: Clinic Proceedings. Researchers say anybody working a shift outside of

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01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 32: a nine to five job has a fifteen percent increased

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01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 32: risk of getting kidney stones. That number jumps to twenty

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01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 32: two percent for people working the night shift. The study

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01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 32: involved data for more than two hundred and twenty thousand

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01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 32: people in the UK. I'm Tammy Tricheo.

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Speaker 19: I'm Sandy Collins Next News at eleven thirty News Radio

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 19: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Now News Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday Morning Sportstock

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01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: with your host Ca and Brew on News Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Well, whatever kind of problems you've had this weekend, and

1642
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: I hope you've had none, they can't begin to compare

1643
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: to what the problem that former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez

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01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: has going for him right now up in Indianapolis. Maybe

1645
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: you've heard the news, maybe I haven't, but apparently on

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01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: Saturdays sounded like it was early Saturday morning. Sanchez got

1647
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: into a confrontation with a sixty nine year old truck driver.

1648
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 2: Now listen to this one. Sanchez is thirty eight years old.

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: He has been charged with battery, with injury, public intoxication,

1650
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: and unlawful entry of a vehicle. Above Beyond all of that,

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01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: he was stabbed two or three times and wound up

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01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: in an Indianapolis hospital. The prosecutor up there in Indianapolis says, quote,

1653
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 2: this incident should never happened. What began as a disagreement

1654
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: between a thirty eight year old old former professional athlete

1655
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: and a sixty nine year old man should not have

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01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: escalated into violence or left anyone injured. According to the affidavit,

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: Sanchez allegedly accosted a truck driver at a hotel loading dog. Why,

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01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: we don't know. According to the affidavit, the confrontation escalated

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,480
Speaker 2: to the point where the truck driver, believed he was endangered,

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01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,440
Speaker 2: sprayed Sanchez in the face with pepper spray, and Sanchez

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01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: was still advancing toward him. The truck driver thought he

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01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: was going to kill me. The truck driver then pulled

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01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 2: a knife out with Sanchez still coming at him, and

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01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: he said he struck Sanchez two or three times. The

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01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: truck driver said he was thrown against the dumpster onto

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: the ground and believed he was in a quote life

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01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: or death situation. The driver, according to the affidavit, then

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01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: said a look of shock came on Sanchez's face and

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01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Sanchez quote unquote took off. So the cops in Indianapolis

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01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: arrested Sanchez while he was in the hospital recovering for

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 2: his stab wounds. Don't know if he has been taken

1672
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: down to the lockup, but there will be a hearing

1673
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,919
Speaker 2: apparently on all of this at eight thirty am on Tuesday.

1674
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: So let's just say Mark Sanchez didn't have this on

1675
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 2: his Bengo card when he arrived to call the Colts

1676
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 2: game today in Indianapolis as the Colts take on the

1677
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. Let's just say that was not part

1678
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: of his pregame preparation. As for the Bengals, well, Jamar

1679
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 2: Chase knows they're facing adversity.

1680
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 39: Really, that's the biggest thing about adversity, you know what

1681
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 39: I'm saying. You gotta face it, look at it out

1682
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 39: in an eye out eye, and attack it. It's just

1683
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 39: like us on a field. We make mistakes, you know,

1684
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 39: We gotta look at it on a film, correct it

1685
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 39: and move on to the next play.

1686
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 2: But in two and two and woefully out of contention

1687
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: for wins the last two weeks, can we keep hope

1688
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: alive in this town? Let's bring in now? John Breech

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01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: great sports writers cbssports dot Com. His dad, of course,

1690
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Bengal legend. But John is writing his own legendary status

1691
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: as he continues to cover football really well for cbssports

1692
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 2: dot Com. John, how are you on this glorious game day? Ken?

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Speaker 40: I am fantastic, as I always am whenever I am

1694
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 40: talking to you and boys, it puts me in a

1695
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 40: good dude.

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01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good. That's what we're here for. We're

1697
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: here to keep hope alive. Now now, John, Why should

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Bengal fans keep hope alive? Because the last two weeks

1699
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: were absolutely horrid? Now here come the Lions who can

1700
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: score forty points on you in about eight minutes. Why

1701
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: should Why should Bengal fans at two and two, after

1702
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: the way the team will looked last week and the

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01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: week before and with no Joe Burrow, give us a

1704
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: little hope here? John? Why should we keep hope alive?

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01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: All right.

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01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 40: So we're putting the Bengals fans in the therapist share,

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01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 40: and I'm the therapy.

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01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 35: I'm gonna tell them why it's not over.

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01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: Why to see this overlook.

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 40: They've lost the last two games with seventy six to thirteen,

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 40: and that's ugly. The offense had real play a disaster

1712
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 40: the last two weeks. That's ugly, but it does feel

1713
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 40: like this team has hit rock bottom at this point.

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01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 2: You throw Jake Browning out there.

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01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 40: It was two road games in two of the toughest

1716
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 40: environments in football with Minnesota in Denver, those are two

1717
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 40: places where it's tougher any quarterback to start, let alone

1718
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 40: a backup who's trying to break in the Viking's game

1719
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 40: with the disaster with all the turnover, that is something

1720
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 40: that's an anomally. You're not going to see that again.

1721
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 40: Broncos game, just the undisciplined penalties were ugly. Again, it

1722
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 40: was just these weird things that kept happening. So I

1723
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 40: think you're playing at home against the Detroit Lions. If

1724
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 40: they can just keep this close, I think that will

1725
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 40: give the locker room confidence. I think they'll give the

1726
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 40: coaching staff confidence because that's what they need right now

1727
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 40: in Jake Browning. And the thing to keep in mind

1728
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 40: here is despite these past two weeks where they have

1729
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 40: gotten blown out, this team is two and two. They

1730
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 40: are currently the sixth seed in the AF seed if

1731
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:58,440
Speaker 40: the season ended today.

1732
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 35: So there's no reason to throw this season.

1733
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Out the window.

1734
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 40: The Bengals are very much in it as long as

1735
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 40: they can figure out a way to stay in it,

1736
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 40: and that needs to start today by playing a competitive game.

1737
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 2: With the Lions. Wins didn't do all that well against

1738
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: the Browns last week. The Browns have a way of

1739
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: making a football team look bad offensively. We know that,

1740
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 2: but I'm just wondering, if you look at Jared Goff

1741
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: at least recently, he doesn't put two bad games back

1742
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: to back. I got a feeling that the Lions are

1743
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: going to score points in this game. It may not

1744
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: be forty, it may not be anything like that, but

1745
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: they're going to get their points in this game. How

1746
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 2: do the Bengals maneuver against that Lions defense? And if

1747
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: you're Zach Taylor or Dan Pitcher, what are you doing?

1748
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 2: First try to establish a running game that hasn't been

1749
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 2: there all year, or try to figure out a way

1750
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: to get Jamar Chase and T Higgins in space.

1751
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 40: That is a great that's a chicken an egg here

1752
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,799
Speaker 40: question there, Ken, because they've got to do something.

1753
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 2: The offense obviously, is it working.

1754
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 40: As you mentioned, this is a history bad running game

1755
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 40: just fifty yards per game. Nobody else is even in

1756
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 40: that neighborhood as far as what they're doing per game.

1757
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 40: But I think what you want to do is just

1758
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 40: get big Browning some confidence first and just have him

1759
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 40: go out there. And what that means is what you're

1760
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 40: saying is get.

1761
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 35: Those passes, those short passes.

1762
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 40: The Jamar Chase and to T Higgins in space so

1763
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 40: that he's throwing completions and so that the offense is moving.

1764
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 40: And I think we saw a little bit of that

1765
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 40: in the Monday night game in Denver. Anybody who watched

1766
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 40: that first quarter probably felt like, Okay, maybe the Bengals

1767
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 40: can win this game because the offense was moving the

1768
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 40: ball again, a few weird penalties in there, and then

1769
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 40: the wheels fell off the wag in.

1770
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 2: The final three quarters.

1771
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 40: So it's just all about it feels like getting Jake

1772
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 40: Browning going, and if you get Jamar Chase going and T.

1773
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: Higgins going.

1774
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 40: Now, the Lions have to focus on that, and then

1775
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 40: that's when you get Chase Brown in there and get

1776
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 40: him going too.

1777
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: So I think it probably has to.

1778
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 40: Start with the passing game and then let the running

1779
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 40: game fall behind that.

1780
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're the Lion, you probably know that,

1781
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 2: right And if you're the Lions, you probably know that

1782
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: this team has struggled offensively. And if you're the Lions,

1783
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 2: you know that the Bengals don't want to come back

1784
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: home after their last two games on the road and

1785
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 2: lay an egg. So if you're the Lions and you're

1786
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, you're sitting up there in Detroit and you're

1787
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. If you're Aiden

1788
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Hutchinson for example, or DJ Reider, my goodness, or if

1789
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,879
Speaker 2: you're anybody up there on that defense, you know it's coming.

1790
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 10: Right right you are.

1791
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 40: Look, the Lions have a very very good defense. You

1792
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 40: mentioned two of the biggest names, and they're not going

1793
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 40: to be an easy team to move the ball on.

1794
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 40: But again, that's why you hope this short stuff is going.

1795
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: To work, because the quick as you get the rid

1796
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 2: of the.

1797
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 40: Ball, the less like you are to be sacked by

1798
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 40: Aiden Hutchinson, and I think the other thing to keep

1799
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 40: in mind is that the Broncos have a really good secondary.

1800
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 40: They're a tough team to run those short plays on.

1801
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 40: Patrick Surtains arguably the best corner in the NFL, and

1802
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 40: even then Jamart Case was still running open on routes.

1803
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 40: The Bengals just couldn't get him the ball. So the

1804
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 40: Bengals second or the Lions secondary isn't as good, but

1805
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 40: their pass rush is so good it kind of makes

1806
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 40: up for it because the quarterback has to get rid

1807
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 40: of the ball quickly, so that's you just need these

1808
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 40: quick hitting plays so that Aiden Hutchinson and the rest

1809
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 40: of that pass rush is kind of taken out of

1810
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 40: the game. And that's obviously a lot easier said than done,

1811
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 40: but that feels like that's the path for the Bengals

1812
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 40: to play well. And of course the Lions will try

1813
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 40: and stop that because they're not going to want to

1814
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 40: let Jamar Chase or t Higgins beat them.

1815
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 2: The Lions can run it, you know that. And one

1816
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 2: of the guys that runs it is a kid that

1817
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 2: made his name here in high school football in Cincinnati

1818
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 2: all those years ago, and that's David Montgomery. And I

1819
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 2: looked at the Bengals and how they have played the

1820
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 2: runs so far this year, and it's not great. And

1821
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, if you're the Lions today, what are

1822
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 2: you trying to do here against a Bengals defense that

1823
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 2: has given up one hundred and eighty six to Denver

1824
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: last week, one hundred and sixty nine to Minnesota, one

1825
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine to Jacksonville, all on the ground

1826
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 2: in those last three weeks. What are you going to do?

1827
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: What are you doing here? You're running the ball first,

1828
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 2: aren't you?

1829
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1830
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: Well next? Those are all brutal numbers.

1831
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 40: And I think if you're the Bengals, you just start

1832
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 40: from scratch. You go back to Week one, that was

1833
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 40: their best game against the run.

1834
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 2: The Browns away ran for forty nine.

1835
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 40: Yards, and the Browns offense isn't good. That's why the

1836
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 40: quarterback just got vent A rushing attack not good.

1837
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 2: But you just kind of start looking at positives.

1838
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 40: Like, okay, we have stopped a run game before, and

1839
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 40: then even Jacksonville ETN has had a very good season

1840
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 40: there and the Bengals played him reasonably well when you

1841
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 40: look at how other teams have done against him.

1842
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: This season.

1843
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 40: So really, again, it was just these two road games,

1844
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 40: the Vikings and Broncos, where the team's really broke out,

1845
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 40: and this is a tough candem to stop. Jamyor Gibbs

1846
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 40: and Dave Montgomery. I don't think you can go in

1847
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 40: there thinking, hey, we're going to hold this team to

1848
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 40: eighty yards. I think if you're the Bengals, you almost

1849
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 40: want to let them get.

1850
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 2: Three or four yards to carry, keep.

1851
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 40: The clock running, and that way this game doesn't turn

1852
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 40: to a shootout where both teams have to score forty points.

1853
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 40: Is that the Lions score, I say, over thirty. I

1854
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 40: don't think the Bengals can win. So if the Lions

1855
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 40: want to run the ball, I think the Bengals would

1856
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 40: probably be okay with that.

1857
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 2: John Breechard, guess cbsports dot com, we're talking Bengals Lions

1858
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,520
Speaker 2: for twenty five kick here on seven hundred WLW pregame

1859
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: show begins here in just a couple of minutes. You know, John,

1860
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, it's not like Mike Brown loses faith in

1861
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: a coaching staff quickly. I mean, I can only think

1862
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 2: of two instances in the last twenty five years. Dave

1863
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 2: Shula and then of course Dick lebow where and both

1864
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 2: were given ample opportunity to prove themselves. This is Zach

1865
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 2: Taylor's fifth year, sixth year, six years with the Bengals

1866
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 2: as the head coach. He had a quarterback go down

1867
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: three times. Now Joe Burrow will not finish the season.

1868
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Very difficult for any head coach. I think the biggest

1869
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 2: thing I think that Mike wants to see, and you know,

1870
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 2: you know your dad was part of that organization. You

1871
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 2: know exactly how it works. Mike and then Kate after him.

1872
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: They don't want to see this thing just fall apart

1873
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 2: and just after four games just disintegrate. We talked earlier

1874
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 2: about how the season can be salvageable, how they can

1875
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 2: make a run. But I think the biggest thing I

1876
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 2: think in the minds of the front office is this

1877
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: has got to look weak to weak, like they're trying,

1878
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 2: like the coaches are trying. And one of the things

1879
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 2: I think the coaching staff can do, particularly on the

1880
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 2: offensive ball, to show that they're trying, is that to

1881
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 2: make sure that they're not trying to make Jake Browning

1882
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 2: into Joe Burrow, They've got to get plays out there

1883
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 2: that play into Jake Browning's strength and not try to

1884
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: wedge in an offense into what Jake Browning canon can't do.

1885
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 40: Am I wrong, No, that's absolutely right, And I think

1886
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 40: that's actually one of the issues why Bengals fans are

1887
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 40: so frustrated with what they've seen so far, Because when

1888
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 40: Jake Browning came in in twenty twenty three and had

1889
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 40: all that success, the offense did look a lot different

1890
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 40: than it did while Joe Burrow was running it. And

1891
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 40: so what they've been trying to do is it working

1892
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 40: so well, Because again they've been playing some tough defenses.

1893
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 40: Teams are going to go out and have a lot

1894
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 40: of success against the Broncos defense, and so I think

1895
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 40: that that is what has to happen this week. You

1896
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 40: have to see a step forward at some point. Jake

1897
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 40: Browning has to take that next step.

1898
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 2: If there's open.

1899
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 40: Receivers, he has to see them, he has to make

1900
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 40: those throws. Because there were plenty of plays left on

1901
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 40: the field last week where I certainly would say the

1902
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 40: play design was fine, it was just the quarterback didn't

1903
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 40: get them the ball. And if you're a coaching staff

1904
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 40: or you're the leading an offense, that's struggling. You need

1905
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 40: the quarterback to make those plays. The other thing is

1906
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 40: the Bengals offense is designed one hundred percent around Joe Burrow,

1907
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 40: so you kind of have to go back and rewrite

1908
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 40: what you're doing and make it work for Browning. And

1909
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 40: you've only had really two weeks of practice to do that,

1910
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 40: So that adds a.

1911
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:48,520
Speaker 35: Little bit of complication.

1912
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 40: We saw Mac Jones Thursday night in the forty nine

1913
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 40: Ers game where he's runn Kyle Shanahan's offense. It's everybody's

1914
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,759
Speaker 40: running the same style. It's not I have to design

1915
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 40: an offense for Brock Perdi or Mac Jones, and that's

1916
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 40: not what the Bengals are. They have to redesign the

1917
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 40: offense it fits what Jake Browning does. So it just

1918
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 40: complicates things a little bit.

1919
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, and they don't have the benefit of

1920
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 2: a bye week that doesn't come until later on in November.

1921
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna keep hope alive. This thing looks

1922
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: mount looks pretty tall here today, Bengals getting ten at

1923
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 2: home handicapped Forrest John What happens and come eight o'clock tonight,

1924
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 2: who's standing there.

1925
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 40: With the w I will say the Bengals cover that

1926
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 40: ten point spread.

1927
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 35: It just feels like this is.

1928
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 40: One of those games where we're going to have to

1929
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 40: leave it all on the ground.

1930
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 35: They just have to prove that Zach Tailor.

1931
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 2: Hasn't lost the locker room.

1932
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 40: They've been demoralized two straight weeks, so I do think

1933
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 40: they're gonna come out with an edge. It's our first

1934
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 40: home game that Jake Browning is going to be starting.

1935
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Speaker 40: I think he plays reasonably well. But again it's the

1936
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Speaker 40: Detroit lines. They're one of the best teams in football,

1937
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Speaker 40: so I think they end up winning it by about a.

1938
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Speaker 2: Touchdown, all right, that's why they play the game. John

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Speaker 2: Ken anytime, anytime, anytime, anytime. I that's the way I'm

1942
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Speaker 2: leaning this game. I said that when we had Sterling

1943
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Speaker 2: on about an hour ago. The numbers two it's too inflated.

1944
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Speaker 2: First of all, a home dog with ten, there's something

1945
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 2: up with that, and it's not just based off the

1946
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 2: last couple of games. It's it's just it's it's a

1947
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Speaker 2: bad number. It's just it's you don't want that you

1948
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Speaker 2: don't want. You don't want a four, and you don't

1949
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1950
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Speaker 2: that game. I do think the Bengals cover. I'm not

1951
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Speaker 2: saying that that they're going to beat the Lions. That

1952
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Speaker 2: would be foolish compared to what has happened the last

1953
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. But I don't think this is going

1954
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Speaker 2: to be, you know, this blowout that everybody thinks is

1955
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Speaker 2: going to happen. And you get a team into a

1956
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Speaker 2: grind a little bit, you know, and you're you're in

1957
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Speaker 2: the third quarter and that team is not going away,

1958
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Speaker 2: and you might start doing some things if you're the

1959
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Speaker 2: team that's supposed to win their outside your comfort zone. Look,

1960
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to keep hope alive here too. For

1961
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1962
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1966
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Speaker 4: Let's move on.

1967
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Speaker 24: Defreud rules into Cincinnati to take on on be loved Bengals.

1968
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1969
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1975
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1998
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Speaker 2: Browns have just taken the lead on the Vikings seventeen

1999
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 2: to fourteen as they play on across the pond. In

2000
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 2: addition to football, today we have baseball. The second games

2001
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 2: in the National League Division Series are today. First up

2002
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: at six, Dodgers and Phills. Dodgers up one game to

2003
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Speaker 2: none in that series. And then at nine it's the

2004
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Brewers and Cubs, and the Brewers are up one game

2005
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 2: to none after a nine to three win yesterday in

2006
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 2: Game one. The greatest baseball team of all time. Now,

2007
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: if you're in New York, you might say, well, what

2008
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 2: about the sixty one Yankees? What about the twenty seven Yankees?

2009
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 2: If you're out on the left coast, maybe some of

2010
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 2: those Dodger teams of the seventies, you would argue, but

2011
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: I think we all know the greatest baseball team of

2012
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 2: all time played right here in Cincinnati in nineteen seventy

2013
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 2: five and then again in nineteen seventy six. It was

2014
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine. And you know the players, you

2015
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 2: know who are on that team. What you might not

2016
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 2: know are some of the stories beyond those players. There's

2017
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 2: been a lot of stories and a lot of books

2018
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 2: written about the Big Red Machine. So when another one

2019
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 2: comes out, you say to yourself, well, what could possibly

2020
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 2: be in this book that I don't already know? And

2021
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 2: they'll stand by, because there is a book that will

2022
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 2: be out here in just a couple of days. It's

2023
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 2: called My Big Red Machine, The tales drama of a

2024
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 2: fan turned journalists covering Baseball's greatest team. And the journalist

2025
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 2: who covered it was a man by the name of

2026
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 2: Terrence Moore, beat writer for the Cincinnati Inquirer all those

2027
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 2: years ago, and now he is pieced together a book

2028
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 2: that I can't wait to get my hands on, because

2029
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: it sounds like we're going to hear stories like we've

2030
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,799
Speaker 2: never heard before about Rose and Morgan and Perez and sparky,

2031
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 2: and I'll let him just fill in the blanks. Let's

2032
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 2: welcome on in from where he's living right now in Atlanta, Georgia.

2033
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 2: The author of this book, Terrence Moore, how are you

2034
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 2: on this glorious Sunday.

2035
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 31: Oh, I'm doing quite well. And I'll tell you.

2036
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 4: This book gives me chills.

2037
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 31: I wrote it, and I want to tell you anybody

2038
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 31: that you don't have to be a rest fan.

2039
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 4: You don't have to be a baseball fan.

2040
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 31: I tell you, I dare you to read this book,

2041
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 31: and I get chills if you're just a human being

2042
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:26,919
Speaker 31: for so many reasons.

2043
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 2: There you go. Boy, that's the best selled job any

2044
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 2: author authors ever done. But it's you know, you had

2045
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: a difficult task writing this book in this sense that

2046
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 2: there have been a lot of works, a lot of

2047
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 2: written word, both in print magazine and in book about

2048
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine, and a lot of the stories,

2049
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: as you well know, are so ingrained in history, they

2050
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: just kept getting getting repeated, repeated, repeated, where sometimes fact

2051
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 2: blurs with fiction. You had to come in with this

2052
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 2: from early and eye witnessed point of view, knowing full

2053
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 2: well what had been written in the past, and that

2054
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 2: there were few surprises with this team, but yet you

2055
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 2: found some surprises with this team. So you you obviously

2056
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 2: are an archaeologist there, Terrence.

2057
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 31: Yeah, And here's one of the biggest compliments. I was

2058
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 31: paying Marty Brenneman, of course, the Reds broadcaster for forty

2059
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 31: six years through that Big Red Machine period.

2060
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 4: Marty did the four to this book.

2061
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 31: He said that I have tons of stuff in this

2062
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 31: book that he didn't know, uh, and he was just mesmerized.

2063
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 10: By what I've gotten. He's not the only one that

2064
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 10: said that.

2065
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 31: And this is the most unique Bigger Machine book ever

2066
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 31: written can and for no other reason.

2067
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 4: It's take it from the perspective.

2068
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 31: You know, Mike has called My Bigger Machine the Tails,

2069
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 31: Drama and Revelations of a fan turned journalist covering baseball.

2070
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 4: Great a team.

2071
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 31: And I went from being this diehard Bigger Machine fan

2072
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 31: in nineteen sixty eight when we first moved to Cincinnati

2073
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 31: from South in Indiana. My dad was an ATNT supervisor

2074
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 31: who got transferred to Cincinnati. So I went from being

2075
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 31: that dark heard fan of this team to going to

2076
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 31: school at Miami University right up the road there, graduating

2077
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 31: in May of nineteen seventy eight, and then a week

2078
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 31: later working full time for Sinstant Inquirer. And among my

2079
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:26,839
Speaker 31: many assignments were they involved covering that big red machine

2080
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 31: in those players. And I want to tell you something,

2081
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 31: This was like an outer body experience to go from

2082
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 31: being that fan of doing this and they always tell

2083
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 31: you that you should never meet your heroes or I did,

2084
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 31: and I want to tell you it was mostly a great,

2085
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 31: great time for me for so many reasons, ranging from

2086
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,839
Speaker 31: medium all time favorite player Peede.

2087
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 4: Rose and seeing what he was really like.

2088
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 31: And I want to tell you something spoiler alert. I've

2089
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 31: got nothing to say bad about ped Rose. He was

2090
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 31: great to me, not only for years, but for decades.

2091
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 31: Joe Morgan, Sparky Anderson. Not only did I meet these

2092
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 31: guys that had the special relationship with them for decades

2093
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 31: afterwards and led to a lot of intrigging stories along

2094
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 31: the way.

2095
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh I know, I am. I'm absolutely dead sure of that.

2096
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing I think about that team is

2097
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 2: it was a team of characters. Each one was separate

2098
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 2: in his own right. Everybody had their own personality, and

2099
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 2: Sparky Anderson had the wherewithal to understand that you're not

2100
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: all the same ballplayer, and so I will not treat

2101
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 2: you all the same. We've got stars on this team.

2102
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 2: We've got Bench, and we've got Roseen, We've got Morgan,

2103
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 2: and they're the stars, and they're going to be treated

2104
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: differently than some of you guys that only play once

2105
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 2: every four or five days. And you're just going to

2106
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 2: have to understand that. I think Sparky was a lot

2107
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 2: of things. He certainly got a lot of attention for

2108
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 2: the way he spoke and the words he used. But

2109
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: the guy was kind of a self vaunt when it

2110
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 2: came to managing baseball teams. Was he not?

2111
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 4: Well, there's no doubt about it.

2112
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 31: And he mentioned Sparky And let's say one of the

2113
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 31: things that make this book you need And going back

2114
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 31: to Martin brennanman, I have got stuff that nobody else

2115
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 31: has ever had about this team, because these guys had

2116
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 31: a tendency to tell me stuff that they never told

2117
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 31: anybody else.

2118
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 4: You got to remember I was a rarity for two reasons.

2119
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 31: Number One, I was twenty two years old when I

2120
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 31: was covering the team back.

2121
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 4: Then, and then the average age of a beat writer.

2122
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 31: And again I can put in perspective that back during

2123
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 31: this time. This was a heyday of newspapers. Okay, so

2124
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 31: the average age of a beat writer or a guy

2125
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 31: covered team like they was just sory have deceased. I'm

2126
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 31: the twenty two year old kids, and I'm also African American.

2127
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 31: You know, I was the first African American ever to

2128
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 31: cover baseball or to any extent at all, cly In

2129
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 31: assist that area, and only the second one in the country.

2130
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 31: So had that going on when you mentioned Sparky, uh well,

2131
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 31: among the many things that sparked, he told me they

2132
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 31: have never told anybody else.

2133
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 10: And this almost brought tears in my eyes. Been an

2134
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 10: old Wrisk fan. We're talking one day, he's in Detroit.

2135
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 31: As the manager of the Tigers at this point, and

2136
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,600
Speaker 31: we're talking about the bigger Mrsaine and then he told me,

2137
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 31: and we're talking about the Tony Periz trade that some

2138
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 31: people may remember that they traded Tony Periz after they

2139
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 31: won the second to second of World Championship in nineteen

2140
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 31: seventy six, and a lot of people were upset with

2141
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 31: that and rightfully sold because the feeling was they kept

2142
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 31: Tony Peiz, they could have won multiple more World championships.

2143
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 31: The players said that Sparky thought, told me. He says, no,

2144
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 31: he said, we were done. Said, what do you mean?

2145
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 31: He said, we wouldn't have won anything else after seventy six.

2146
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 31: He said that that was that team had reached his feat.

2147
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 31: He said, we were bored. He said, I was bored.

2148
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Speaker 31: And then Sparky said that I cared more about football

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01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 31: than the Reds win another championship. And I was like son,

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01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 31: because I expected Sparky to say something totally than that.

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01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 10: Sure, So it's things like that, stories like that I've

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 10: got throughout the book.

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01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,719
Speaker 2: The and I said, one of the unique things about

2154
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: this book is not only were you a witness to it,

2155
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 2: you were a witness to the rise, in the fall

2156
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: the heyday, not necessarily the building of the team, you're

2157
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 2: a younger man at that point, but the building of

2158
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 2: the team and then how it was literally demolished because

2159
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 2: this this this ownership group where it was scared to

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01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: death of what free agency would would mean and how

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01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 2: much it would cost. And the Perez trade is interesting.

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01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: I've always believed that the Perez trade was the thing

2163
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 2: that ran Bob House him off, like it just it

2164
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 2: turned his stomach so that he just said, look, I'm

2165
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 2: done because I know what's coming in his wake. And

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 2: then along comes Dick Wagner, who basically was the hatchet one,

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01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 2: and uh, but it was it was it was Houshen

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01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: ownership forced Housen to get rid of Perez. Correct.

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01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 31: Well, okay, I'm glad you missioned that Ken because you

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01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 31: missed the Bob. I've got a whole chapter on Bob

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 31: Housm here, and I know a lot of people out

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01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 31: there saying that, well, I've heard all everything that.

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01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 10: Isn't know about Bob Housem. No, you have not read

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01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 10: this book.

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01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 31: According to Marty Brindleman again, he said, seventy percent of

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01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 31: what I got from Bob Housm has never been said

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01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 31: before I got to set this up. Bob Housing was

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01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 31: very tight lipped with the media when he was with

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01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 31: the Rigs during that time. By happenstance, I just happened

2180
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 31: to get Bob Housm near the end of his life

2181
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 31: for another matter, and I was just donne what he

2182
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 31: was telling me over the phone.

2183
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 10: He's like eighty eight years old.

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01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 4: He told me everything.

2185
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 31: That went on with that team, the good the bad,

2186
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 31: in the Italy, and he talked about twenty pres He

2187
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 31: told me and this part of this has been missing before,

2188
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 31: but I'm going to expand on this. He told me

2189
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 31: the worst decision he made in his life was training

2190
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 31: Tony Prez after the seventy sixth season that's actually won

2191
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 31: the second World Championship, because he is how important he

2192
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 31: was to that clubhouse. And he said that if you

2193
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,600
Speaker 31: had to do it all over again, he would have

2194
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 31: kept twenty Perez and had twenty president Dan Dreeson, who

2195
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 31: took Tony President's place, fight it out.

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,759
Speaker 10: And made the best man win. So that's one.

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 4: Thing he told me.

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01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 31: The other thing he told me that thought was very interesting,

2199
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 31: the fire Sparky Anderson dig Wagner.

2200
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 4: He missed dig Wagner.

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01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 31: Sparky dig Wagner fired Sparky Anderson after the seventy eighth

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01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 31: season when he finished second for the second secutive year.

2203
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 31: Bob Hollisam, who was retired by then Bob Holism retired

2204
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 31: after the seventy sixth season, said that he was he

2205
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:39,799
Speaker 31: Bob Holsem said he was absolutely shot when dig Wagner

2206
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 31: did that. And then he said that then he told

2207
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 31: me something that he's never told anybody else before.

2208
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 4: He says Big Wagner should have never ever.

2209
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 31: Been hired as a as a gentleman manager, because he

2210
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 31: said that he was an overbearing personality, he was overmatched,

2211
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 31: and he said that he was a good second man,

2212
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 31: he says, but he wasn't good and that for this,

2213
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 31: and how they went on to tell me, he said,

2214
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 31: I can't tell you how many times I would tell

2215
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,759
Speaker 31: him me dig Wagner wanted me to fire a coach

2216
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 31: or get rid of a player, just for a fact,

2217
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 31: just to say that he did it so he could

2218
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,959
Speaker 31: send a message everybody else in the clubhouse.

2219
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Hasim would know. He and Wagner worked together

2220
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals. And I think when when Wagner was

2221
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals, he was a glorified pr guy. You know,

2222
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 2: he would all these crazy promotions for the Cardinals and

2223
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, and not about all of

2224
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,839
Speaker 2: a sudden, but within five years he's the general manager

2225
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Reads. And I think that that, to

2226
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 2: me at the time, made me step step back and

2227
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 2: wonder does ownership know what it's doing here?

2228
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 4: You know.

2229
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one thing to be the guy that's

2230
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 2: out there with the acts and getting rid of people,

2231
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: but that guy answers to somebody, So somebody had to

2232
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 2: sign off on the trade of Perez and then uh

2233
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:56,799
Speaker 2: and then letting Rose go. My gosh, I'm surprised Johnny

2234
01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 2: Bench survived throughout his entire career here with with that philosophy.

2235
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, somebody above Wagner and for that matter of

2236
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Housen had to sign off on all of this stuff.

2237
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 31: Right, well, well let me tell you this now, Okay,

2238
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 31: you missed Pete Rose. Pete Rose is my guy, and

2239
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 31: I was talking to Bob Housen about the Pete Rose situation.

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01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 31: And for those who may not know, Pete Rose, of

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01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 31: course born and raised in Cincinnati, sixteen years with the

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01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 31: Reds and then the soccer in nineteen seventy eight, at

2243
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 31: the end of the nineteen seventy eight season, Peter Rose

2244
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 31: becomes a free agent, and baby line just tells you

2245
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 31: how life works. And if you're a spiritual person like me,

2246
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 31: there's such thing as acquisidents. Who wrote the first story

2247
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 31: ever about Pete Rose starling for free agency? It was

2248
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 31: going to become a fregent. It was me And it's

2249
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 31: just that Inquirer went from this thirteen year old kid.

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Speaker 4: Iized Pete Rose.

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01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 35: I wrote the story.

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01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 10: And it turns out later on when.

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01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 31: I'm talking about Bob Howsham and that the interview I

2254
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 31: was telling you about, I asked Bob, I said that

2255
01:54:58,680 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 31: were you surprised?

2256
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 10: And again Bob was gone by this time.

2257
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 31: That Big Wagner allowed he Rose to leave the Reds

2258
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 31: as a stra agent after the seventy eighth season and.

2259
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:11,919
Speaker 4: Signed with the Philadelphia Phillies.

2260
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 31: And Bob Album told me something that I was sitting

2261
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 31: down and that I almost saw on my chair. He says, well,

2262
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 31: he said that what my understanding was, they had to

2263
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 31: let Peede Rose leave Cincinnati because according to what the

2264
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 31: police be Force told us, Pete owed thirty thousand dollars

2265
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 31: to gamblers, and that we were told that if he

2266
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 31: stayed with the red at least Dick Gregor was so

2267
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 31: told that if he stayed with the Reds, he.

2268
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 4: Would be found in the bottom of the Ohio River.

2269
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 2: They don't make guys like you in journalism anymore. Wherewithal

2270
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 2: to remember the wherewithal to go back and put everything

2271
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 2: in context. And here it is now, my big Red Machine.

2272
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 2: The Tails, Drama and revelations of a fan turned journalist

2273
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 2: covering baseball's greatest team. That, of course is the sense

2274
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: of that he reads, and he, of course is Terrence Moore.

2275
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 4: It is.

2276
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 2: It will be out on October the sixteenth. So here

2277
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 2: in just a couple of days, Terrence, this is I

2278
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 2: can't wait to get my hands on it. I'm sure

2279
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that have heard this

2280
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 2: that feel the same way. And look, man, good luck

2281
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 2: with the book. And again, congratulations on hanging on to

2282
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: the things that should be important to a journalist. Thanks

2283
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 2: for your time here. We appreciate it.

2284
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 31: Well, you know, I'll just by saying this, people can

2285
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 31: get a copy right now autograph from me, and they

2286
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 31: go to my Bigger bit machine dot com and it

2287
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 31: comes in hardcover or in paperback and you get it

2288
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Speaker 31: for me right now.

2289
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 2: Holy crow, an autograph a trailblazer, who want that? Thank you, Terrence,

2290
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 2: Stay well.

2291
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 4: Thank you.

2292
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: There's a guy that knows he's an author, he's a journalist,

2293
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 2: and he's a salesman boy combined all of that. Anyway,

2294
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: the book comes out, as I just said, in a

2295
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: couple of days. Here the tales, drama, and revelations of

2296
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 2: a fan turned journalist covering Baseball's greatest team. The head

2297
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 2: title my Big Red Machine, Terrence Moore, that's one that's

2298
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Speaker 2: on the list. It's eleven fifty three already. News Radio

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW Rare

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Speaker 1: White Bengals will be on the prowl October sixteenth, when

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01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: our AFC Division rivals, the Pittsburgh Steelers come to the

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Speaker 1: Jungle for Thursday