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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cracking this morning, a presentation of the Kraken

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Speaker 1: Audio Network Ken Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

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Speaker 1: Here's Mike Benton. All right, you have waited long enough.

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Speaker 1: The wait is finally over. Nearly three weeks of no hockey,

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Speaker 1: at least for the Seattle Crack insider in the rearview mirror.

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Speaker 1: The Olympic break is done and the Krack can get

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Speaker 1: back at it finally tonight against the Dallas Stars.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to having you by the way. Opening face off,

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Speaker 2: coming your way five pm Pacific time from American Airline Center.

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Speaker 2: Mike Benton with you here for Cracking this morning on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, the twenty fifth of February, airtime four to thirty.

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Speaker 2: Once again, albe at Network Central with you evere fits

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Speaker 2: you al Kiniski and Dallas to open up the first

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Speaker 2: of back to back games the Cracking in Saint Louis

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night, and then finally home coming this Saturday to

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Speaker 2: open a six game homestand against the Vancouver Canucks. As

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Speaker 2: far as this evening's contest is concern, a lot of

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Speaker 2: moving parts here around this game, beginning with two medalists

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Speaker 2: back here for the Kraken from Team Finland and Coppococko

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Speaker 2: and Ellie Tolvenin. We'll hear from them in just a bit,

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Speaker 2: plus also get more reaction for the games from John Foresland,

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Speaker 2: Craken TV play by play voice. Great to have him

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Speaker 2: back with us once again. We'll get caught up as

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Speaker 2: well on depending trade deadline that's not too far away

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Speaker 2: by the way, coming up here on March six. John

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Speaker 2: Forsland and his remarks as well, coming up in just

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Speaker 3: Well, on the.

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Speaker 2: Kraken side, you're gonna see a lot of questions Baar answers,

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Speaker 2: maybe closer here to face off because the Kraken skating

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Speaker 2: already with pretty much a full lineup in practice last

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Speaker 2: several days. We'll get reinforcements potentially here with Coopocaco and

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Speaker 2: Ellie tolven And joining the team on the trip, both

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Speaker 2: capturing a bronze medal. Also Ryan Winterton and Ben Myers

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Speaker 2: each signing two year contract extensions. Myers technically for this

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Speaker 2: game still very much in doubt. He is on injured reserve,

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Speaker 2: but could be activated maybe closer here to face office.

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Speaker 2: He was seen in a regular jersey most recently in

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Speaker 2: practice with a crack and along with Berkeley Catton also

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Speaker 2: on IR for Dallas. Well, where do you start. Miko

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Speaker 2: Rantanen will not play in the game. He's out two

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Speaker 2: weeks on IR, recently banged up at the Olympics. Raddick

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Speaker 2: Foxa is questionable here for this game tonight. Rope Hints

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Speaker 2: is also out due to illness. Jake Ottinger will not

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Speaker 2: play in the game due to Team USA commitments. Remy

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Speaker 2: Pourier also recalled from the American Hockey League in that place,

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Speaker 2: So still plenty of questions here for the Dallas side

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Speaker 2: on this game. Also just getting Miro Haskin and Esseln

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Speaker 2: this here with John Forsland in just a bit, well

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Speaker 2: the krack and celebrating the return of Capocaco and Ellie

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Speaker 2: Toulvenan back to practice and beginning with Toulvenen, he had

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Speaker 2: three points in five games for Team Finland, capturing bronze,

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Speaker 2: which was his first medal as an Olympian, but also

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Speaker 2: Finland in two World Junior championships and Tolvi. Then after

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Speaker 2: was a once in a lifetime situation.

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Speaker 4: You know, come home with the bronze middal too. It

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Speaker 5: Where does that rank in terms of just like your

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Speaker 1: No, it's up there.

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Speaker 4: It's it's definitely a top top memory for for for sure,

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Speaker 6: It was it was real.

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Speaker 7: How challenging was it to get over that last to

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Speaker 4: Course, well obviously it sucks, but we had a you know,

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Speaker 4: But I think the guys did really good Chop and uh,

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Speaker 4: They have have the medal and you know, the whole

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Speaker 3: Too big a test?

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Speaker 7: Was this for you personally to to go up against

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Speaker 4: Well, well, I think it's just the honor for sure

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Speaker 4: And uh, that's what we did. And uh, I think

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Speaker 5: And two, it wasn't your first Olympics, obviously, how would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think this is definitely a different, different experience,

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Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, Copo Kaco sits by Tolvenen in the

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Speaker 8: A lot of good guys. You know, we did well also,

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Speaker 5: What moments stand out in your mind most from the

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Speaker 8: I mean the first first one was obviously a big one,

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Speaker 5: What was it like to get to share the experience

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Speaker 8: That was pretty fun also. I mean he was helping

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Speaker 5: What is it like to be able to have the

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's something what's not going to happen too often.

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Speaker 8: I mean we kind of knew each other pretty well already,

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Speaker 7: A couple of weeks you were up there leading your

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Speaker 7: How much do you think your experience last year the

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Speaker 7: four Nations helped prepare you to take the stage here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a little bit. You kind of know

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Speaker 8: I would I would say it help a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit, just confidence. Why so how did that help your

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I would say a lot, you know,

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Speaker 7: How hard was it to come back then right after

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Speaker 8: Mean it was, I mean pretty close. We almost bid them,

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Speaker 8: So I was not easy, Bob. I think the next day,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a bad time.

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Speaker 2: We are finally able to get back after it the

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Speaker 2: Crack and take on the Dallas Stars this evening. And

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Speaker 2: who else would we want to talk to here to

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Speaker 2: celebrate getting right back into the stretch drive than our

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Speaker 2: a bit tanned as well from the Carolina's out there

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Speaker 2: joining us right now from the Crack at Hockey Network,

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Speaker 2: NHL on TNT, Amazon Prime as well. Johnny, Hello, how

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Speaker 2: are you? How's family? How's vacation?

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Speaker 3: Well it says here that your name is Mike Benton.

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Speaker 2: Is that crank allegedly?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to make sure because I forgot

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Speaker 3: I have no you know, I'm trying to recapture memory

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Speaker 3: the internet, and I think I refreshed myself, Mike. Be

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Speaker 3: great to be back with you, and I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to get back to work, you know. That's that's the

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Speaker 3: bottom line. This was this was a nice chance to

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Speaker 3: refresh a little bit enjoy the Olympics. But it's the

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Speaker 3: break is long. It's it's way too long when you

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Speaker 3: get down to the end of it all, and hopefully,

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Speaker 3: you know the players will recapture whatever energies they had

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Speaker 3: an incredible twenty six game.

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Speaker 2: I have my high mind. Name is name tag here

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Speaker 2: for the next home game. I've been a fan of

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Speaker 2: your work here for a long long time, and hey,

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Speaker 2: I'll look forward to sharing you with some of the

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Speaker 2: here to your calls. But finally nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: All right, tong is out of cheek here for this.

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Speaker 2: So he's already got Team USA experience in his back pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he has an excellent chance, obviously, and

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Speaker 2: The Seattle Craken, entering tonight against the Dallas Stars, will

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Speaker 3: now we're into it. There's a small sample side of games.

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Speaker 3: We've seen how the league has returned and now the

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Speaker 3: games are being played, because I can tell you before

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Speaker 3: the break, the style of play for me had really

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Speaker 3: dropped off, you know, because the players were flushed, they

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Speaker 3: were fatigued league wide, not just New crack Ins case,

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Speaker 3: league wide. The schedule had caught up to everybody. And

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Speaker 3: so we're still in that situation. And of course we

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Speaker 3: have the trading deadline that's just days away, two which

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Speaker 3: is going to make this very interesting.

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Speaker 2: So how far Johnny, We had this conversation back around

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Speaker 2: the Quinn Hughes deal and you mentioned trades are exciting

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Speaker 2: and you wish that you you know, saw more of

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Speaker 2: these here in this day and age. But a think

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Speaker 2: of the crack end taking.

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Speaker 1: A big swing.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens here. But to you, with this roster,

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Speaker 2: how far does a big trade move the needle for

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Speaker 2: them in this playoff race?

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Speaker 3: It to put them where they absolutely need to go.

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Speaker 3: Could be the key, could be the difference in all

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Speaker 3: of this. Do I think they have enough as they

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Speaker 3: are to make a push? Yes, I think that's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 3: Can you take some pieces off the team and replace

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Speaker 3: them with some younger players who maybe we have already

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Speaker 3: seen or have not, or we just need a longer

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Speaker 3: look like a Fisk or Moleguard or a newman, you know,

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Speaker 3: Can those players come back at the after the trading

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Speaker 3: deadline and make a contribution? Probably? Could they make the

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Speaker 3: playoffs with some of those young guys that would be terrific. Yes.

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Speaker 3: But if they're able to swing a deal and it's

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Speaker 3: for somebody who can break a game open and can

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Speaker 3: give you a little bit more street cred offensively, that

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Speaker 3: could be the difference. And I see it twofold or

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Speaker 3: maybe threefold, because it would not only, you know, energize

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Speaker 3: the team, but it would energize the room for the athletes.

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Speaker 3: And it would also re energize the fan base because

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Speaker 3: I think the fans are looking for something to happen

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Speaker 3: here and so it is a position of strengths that

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Speaker 3: Jason Boutro is in here and GM's always like to

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Speaker 3: work it from strength. He's got a he's got some prospects,

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Speaker 3: he has some draft choices, he has some expiring contracts,

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of things to come to the

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Speaker 3: board game with here, so it'll be interesting and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure he's trying. I'm sure that's the focus of what

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Speaker 3: the Kraken will attempt to do by March sixth, is

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Speaker 3: you know, get that type of player and then you

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Speaker 3: infuse it in the lineup. And that's why I was

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Speaker 3: happy to see and I hope the reports were true

484
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Speaker 3: that they were in on Paneren because our temmy Paneren.

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Speaker 3: Although the contract, if it were a four year deal

486
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Speaker 3: as opposed to two, might be a little bit large

487
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Speaker 3: and might not age well, but the least it shows

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Speaker 3: that they're swinging for the fences, which those of us

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Speaker 3: that are close to the team know that's always been

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Speaker 3: the case. But when things don't happen, people make their

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Speaker 3: opinions based on what doesn't happen, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, the ownership doesn't have a commitment

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Speaker 3: to win. This ownership group does. It just has to

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Speaker 3: be smart in terms of what they do with the money,

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Speaker 3: and if that player is is you know available, They'll

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Speaker 3: get after it. I'm sure they would.

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Speaker 2: And for the grand finale of this conversation, what's your

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Speaker 2: prevailing thought on Ellie Tullividen Coppocco, Philip Grubauer in the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: and even then Oscar Fisker Mulgard. But on top of that,

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Speaker 2: how does Lane Lambert manage workload here going forward?

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Speaker 3: You think, well, you know, he's going to have individual

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Speaker 3: conversations with all those guys. It's hard for me to

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Speaker 3: say how any of them feel. I don't know. And

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Speaker 3: it wasn't lucky enough to get over there and watch

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Speaker 3: the games in person to see, you know, how they

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Speaker 3: played exactly and and how you know, maybe they you know,

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Speaker 3: come out of there with an injury or whatnot. I

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Speaker 3: don't believe that's the case. All the guys played great.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great to see Oscar Fisker Moleguard

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Speaker 3: represent his country. Yes, and on the first power play,

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Speaker 3: I mean that it's a twenty year old player that

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Speaker 3: spent most of the year in the American Hockey League.

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Speaker 3: We're going to see a lot of him moving forward.

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Speaker 3: So that was good. Coco did a nine job. Tolven

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Speaker 3: in plays the same way all the time. I understand

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Speaker 3: he had a little bit of an illness at the

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Speaker 3: end of the tournament, which a lot of the players

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Speaker 3: were fighting off in Italy, and Gruby, you know, did

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Speaker 3: his thing. You know, I think he just kind of

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Speaker 3: brought the game that we've seen all year with in Italy,

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Speaker 3: tried to keep his team in the Atlanta position. But

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Speaker 3: unfortunately that's the problem with the tournament, and without Russian

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Speaker 3: involvement and Bella Russian involvement, you know you're going to

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Speaker 3: have disparity here. There are drop offs with some of

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Speaker 3: these countries. You know, when you're stacked up against a

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Speaker 3: roster laden with you know, twenty three twenty five National

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Speaker 3: Hockey League players as opposed to maybe six or seven.

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Speaker 3: Hard to play that way, right, And so I think

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Speaker 3: in Germany's case, sure they I thought they were a

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Speaker 3: dark horse team. I thought they would have done a

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Speaker 3: little bit better than they did because they have very

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Speaker 3: good NHL players on their roster with Stutsleern Drysidle, Insider

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Speaker 3: and so on and Grubauer. But when you get into

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Speaker 3: the deep miss of games and you're you're rolling out

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Speaker 3: a plus players on your fourth line, and they're playing

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Speaker 3: against players who play in the European pro leagues or

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Speaker 3: the minor leagues. You know, it's difficult. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: what Slovakia ran into with a goalie that's number four

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Speaker 3: in the Minnesota Food Change, right, so like he's the

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Speaker 3: second goalie for the Iowa Wild in the American Hockey League.

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Speaker 3: But he played heroically in the Olympic tournament. But at

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Speaker 3: the end of it, the NHL greatness will override it all.

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Speaker 3: And really there were the two teams left standing the

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Speaker 3: way it should have been. That's the way we're designed.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened, and we were treated to a historic game.

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Speaker 2: On some And when we all get back home, I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to meet you the first time for the

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Speaker 2: thirty second time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome back, reinduce, reintroduce yourself. And I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to see the fans again. And then and get back

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Speaker 3: to it, you know, let's get back to business here,

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Speaker 3: and enough with the hiatus and let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'll raise the glass.

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Speaker 2: I'll raise a glass that I appreciate you. Thank you, Johnny, Okay, Mike,

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Speaker 2: take care all right, big thank you to John Forestland

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Speaker 2: here for joining us. Johnny great calls to you, glad

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Speaker 2: to have you back with us as well as the

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Speaker 2: kracking gets set here for the Dallas Stars in their

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Speaker 2: third and final matchup, and the Kraken would love to

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Speaker 2: salvage at least a win here in this series, Dallas

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Speaker 2: taking the first two matchups out of three here for

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Speaker 2: this regular season set. The Stars are a pretty good

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Speaker 2: face off team, fifth best numbers right now at the

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Speaker 2: circle this year in the NHL, and the crack and

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Speaker 2: penalty kill wed Chess hat their struggles want to avoid

566
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Speaker 2: having their hands full here with Dallas, as the Stars

567
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Speaker 2: power play comes in second best in the NHL goals allowed,

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Speaker 2: though that could be a bit of a variable here

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Speaker 2: for games like this. Coming out of the break, Dallas

570
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Speaker 2: is fourth best in the NHL at just two point

571
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Speaker 2: seven goals per game. Conversely, on the Kraken side, they've

572
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Speaker 2: got health and one of the most important offensive players

573
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Speaker 2: looking to pick up right where he left off, Jereed

574
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: McCann nearly at point per game, totals thirty one points

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Speaker 2: in thirty two games. He's got a five game points

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Speaker 2: scoring streak heading into this contest, with nine points overall

577
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Speaker 2: and four goals as well.

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Speaker 1: In that span.

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Speaker 2: No confirmations yet, but based on the pattern of back

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Speaker 2: to back it wouldn't be surprising here to see Philip

581
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Speaker 2: Grewbauer start this evening against Dallas and then see Joey

582
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Speaker 2: Decord get the second leg of the back to back

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Speaker 2: that tomorrow night in Saint Louis. Grewbauer by the way

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Speaker 2: against Dallas for his career a nine to one to eight,

585
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Speaker 2: say percentage in fifteen career games, although just a two

586
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Speaker 2: seven and three record to show for it, and the

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Speaker 2: crack and looking to support him should he start as

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Speaker 2: well in his first game out of the Olympic break.

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Speaker 2: Coming back here from Team Germany, A lot to get

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Speaker 2: to you here for this one. Hope that you can

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Speaker 2: be with us as once again. We'll be on the

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Speaker 2: air at four thirty face offs little past five pm

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Speaker 2: Pacific time here from Dallas. Everett now on the call.

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Speaker 2: I'll join you once again and Network Central here, so

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Speaker 2: open up coverage right here all across the Global Credit

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Speaker 2: Union Kraken Audio Network. We certainly hope that you can

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Speaker 2: join us. Big thank you again to John Forestland for

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Speaker 2: being with us and for Kraken this morning. I'm Mike Benton,

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Speaker 2: have a happy Wednesday.

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