WEBVTT - The Big Outdoors -- 10/10/25

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Outdoors. News Radio seven hundred w

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<v Speaker 1>l W Cincinnati, home of the Cincinnati Reds and the

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<v Speaker 1>best Bengals coverage. Chip Hard here and uh want last one,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Cross. Uh he's back in the woods again, which

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a good place for him. And uh it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's very calming for the wildlife out there when when

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the woods because uh uh he has no

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<v Speaker 1>chance whatsoever, but hopefully he is catching this on his

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<v Speaker 1>way in. Do you like that, Danny?

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<v Speaker 2>That's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>All no harm will come to his quarry today. Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Samuel, welcome back to the Big Outdoors and uh

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<v Speaker 1>you uh you. You visit with me a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times of years, particularly when there's important subjects and and

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<v Speaker 1>I have to and I need to turn to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a member of the Ohio Wildlife Council. And

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<v Speaker 1>for the for those that are not familiar, what does

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<v Speaker 1>a person that is on the council, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility that you have to the sportsman of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll chip, good morning, thanks for having me back on

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<v Speaker 3>the show. The Wildlade Council is an eight member board.

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<v Speaker 3>We are appointed by the Governor of Ohio and our

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<v Speaker 3>job is to assess the rules on seasons, dates, bag limits,

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<v Speaker 3>things like that that come from the Division of Wildlife,

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<v Speaker 3>and we vote to approve or not approve those rules.

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<v Speaker 3>And it really I see our role though, as to

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<v Speaker 3>try to be a voice for sportsmen in that rule process.

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<v Speaker 3>So I try to get out and you talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you talk to a lot of different groups around the state.

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm in a council meeting, I try to respond

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<v Speaker 3>to the rules and with what I'm hearing from from

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<v Speaker 3>hunters and anglers and trappers around the state, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, maybe make a rule better.

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<v Speaker 3>And and and uh, you know, keep keep everything going going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well for for Ohio's hunters and anglers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before we get onto the subject of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is tremendously important, what are you finding more sportsmen uh,

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<v Speaker 1>participating in providing a voice or an opinion on the

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<v Speaker 1>rules coming down the road than you did, say, three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago at one hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously there sadly there are fewer hunters and

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<v Speaker 3>not the same number of anglers across Ohio. But as

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<v Speaker 3>far as folks speaking up about rules and things like that, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's been a tremendous increase.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on council for seven years and really just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just this last meeting we had, it was

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<v Speaker 3>the largest penants I've ever seen in a meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. And you know, only.

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<v Speaker 3>The second time that that we've hit our maximum numbers

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<v Speaker 3>of public speakers allowed. And then when you get to

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<v Speaker 3>the comment periods where where hunters and anglers can comment

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<v Speaker 3>either uh, you know, either going online or showing up

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<v Speaker 3>the meetings uh and making public.

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<v Speaker 2>Comments about the rules. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've I have not seen anything like it

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<v Speaker 3>in my seven years. But you know, in the last

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<v Speaker 3>let's say a year and a half, folks have really

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<v Speaker 3>been getting engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because you know, for for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember, the sportsman was always like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a silent partner, so to speak, and maybe just because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't feel that their their voices were heard, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just maybe even just a little bit lack of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. But I'm glad that that has turned itself

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<v Speaker 1>around because as they're as you mentioned, you having fewer

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<v Speaker 1>hunters but about the same number of fishermen. You know, what,

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<v Speaker 1>what rules are proposed and inevitably are passed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people need to be knowledgeable about that. It's like taking

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<v Speaker 1>part in the political process.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. And you know, we've also had some really important

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<v Speaker 3>issues coming up. You know, we just went through the

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<v Speaker 3>five year process for changing the waterfowl zones in uh

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<v Speaker 3>in Ohio, and you know that, to me, that was

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<v Speaker 3>probably the best process I've seen thus far in my

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<v Speaker 3>years on council.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of a lot of interaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. The division modified their their proposal several times based

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<v Speaker 3>on the reaction of hunters and it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>people have more data. You know, the more data you

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<v Speaker 3>have probably the more accurate we can be. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's great to see a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of citizen scientists hunters out there who gather their

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<v Speaker 3>data and bring it to the division and to council,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see a really good process.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. In the outcome, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping I played my part and others out there

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<v Speaker 1>as outdoor communicators have played their part and I and

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<v Speaker 1>I do hope, and I not hope. I know they'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue to do. So we are going to hit a break, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>so you said tight, and we come back. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take on the biggest topic of the day facing

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<v Speaker 1>deer hunters in Ohio. So you said, tight, Chip Hart,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Jim Sanuel, Ohio wild Left Council, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>WLW Cincinnati, seven hundred WLW Cincinnati, stick around. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be as always, a hell of a fun day at

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<v Speaker 1>the Big One and sports and sports and sports Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Walker up at uh oh right after the news

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the hour. He'll take you to nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what's that guy? What's that? What's that lawyer's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Mike Shoot it, I've got Allan, Mike Allen, Michael

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<v Speaker 1>k Allen. It could be junior. But then he'll take

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<v Speaker 1>you at noon and uh ken Brew and then sports,

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<v Speaker 1>sports and the sports and more sports cards and let

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<v Speaker 1>them rip. Jim Samuel, welcome back with the Ohio Wildlife

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<v Speaker 1>Council the subject of the day. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I have heard more about this, seen more social

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<v Speaker 1>media posts on this about the EHD that has you know,

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<v Speaker 1>struck Ohio. Of course we still have that area up

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<v Speaker 1>kind of northwest central northwest Ohio with the cw D subject,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, continued watching that. So what was it

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<v Speaker 1>three or four? Three or four weeks ago we had

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<v Speaker 1>new rules come out of the council on I guess

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<v Speaker 1>an adjustment to deer that can be taken in the

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<v Speaker 1>southeast area.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. So we're talking about epizootic camorrhagic disease EHD.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is this is an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>That I you know, never seen anything like it, especially

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<v Speaker 3>as you said, social media and response from the not

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<v Speaker 3>just the hunting public, but you know, all folks involved

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<v Speaker 3>in in you know, outdoor activities. But yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>really hitting Southeast Ohio very hard. Three counties in particular, Athens, Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>and Miggs. Just to put some numbers on this, so

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<v Speaker 3>far in twenty twenty five, there have been over eighty

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred reports of dead and sick beer. Compare that

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<v Speaker 3>to let's say twenty twenty two or twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>where we had other outbreaks. You know, you get fifteen hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe two thousand reports. Eighty two hundred this year and

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<v Speaker 3>more than sixty percent of that has been reported just

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<v Speaker 3>from those three counties. So pretty serious issue down there.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a a wild Buff Council meeting kind of scheduled,

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<v Speaker 3>not the normal schedule. We had a meeting that the

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<v Speaker 3>division called down there. A couple of weeks ago, we

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<v Speaker 3>went to Athens. We went to the district headquarters down there,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were in the impacted area. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was great because we were able to have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of folks come and have their voice heard. The rule

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<v Speaker 3>that the division proposed was to lower the bag limit

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<v Speaker 3>from three deer to two deer in those three hardest

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<v Speaker 3>hit counties and to have that rule take effect before

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<v Speaker 3>deer gun season. So happy to see the division and

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<v Speaker 3>folks taking this seriously. A lot of comments not just

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<v Speaker 3>from council but especially most importantly from the locals in

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<v Speaker 3>the area was they were happy to see movement, what

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<v Speaker 3>actually would like to see the rule tighten even more.

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<v Speaker 3>A number of folks even called for closing the deer

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<v Speaker 3>season in some counties. But I do think we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to see some changes to that proposed rule. The Division

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<v Speaker 3>is looking at dropping it down to one deer in

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<v Speaker 3>some of those impacted counties and maybe expanding it beyond

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<v Speaker 3>just those three. So I think it's really good that

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<v Speaker 3>we're moving in that direction. Hunters still have until October sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>To make their to make comments, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, if you want to have your voice heard, get

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<v Speaker 3>out there. Go online to the Division of Wildlife to

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<v Speaker 3>their rules section. You know, you can enter your comments

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<v Speaker 3>online or you can do it and do it in

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<v Speaker 3>writing by email.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And so the rule change if it goes into effect,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether it's two deer or one, that that

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<v Speaker 1>happens for the gun season, correct or is it December first?

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<v Speaker 1>Of my memory serves me correctly till the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sure, correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some of us really hoped that it could

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<v Speaker 3>have been implemented earlier, because, as we all know, more

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<v Speaker 3>folks are bow hunting these days. Yes, as it is now,

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<v Speaker 3>the rule would go into a fact December first, which

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<v Speaker 3>is you know, opening of deer non season, and then

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<v Speaker 3>that would be an effect for for the whole rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the deer season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, I got let's see. You know, I've watched

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<v Speaker 1>that map evolve just from the postings you know online,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from from the division.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's another source or to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sharing and all that, and that that map just

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<v Speaker 1>continued to get more blotched with red uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really incredible that, you know, and how

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<v Speaker 1>short of a period of time that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was growing like leaps and bounds. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take this up to a greater extent

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<v Speaker 1>after the break. So Jim Samuel sit tight, Chip Hart

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred w l W,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Back at the Moment Radio seven hundred w l

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<v Speaker 1>W Cincinnati, Home of the Best Bengals cover Jim the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati read. Uh Jim Samuel Hawai a Wildlife Council as

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking off air that you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I don't think that this uh the AHD

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<v Speaker 1>EHD is over yet, but it may have peaked I

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<v Speaker 1>know on my property in particular. Probably just let's just

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<v Speaker 1>take a stretch of maybe seventy five acres along a

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<v Speaker 1>creek bed. I found a ten point buck. This goes

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<v Speaker 1>back three weeks, and then two weeks later we found

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<v Speaker 1>five does. And it's kind of interesting because never before,

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<v Speaker 1>in in prior situations with EHD, was I finding does.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like and the and the bucks of course

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<v Speaker 1>they were they were in velvet when they seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be really hit and you know, I don't know as

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<v Speaker 1>uh just my I guess opinion. You know, once that

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<v Speaker 1>the the antlers hardened. It seemed, you know, and there

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<v Speaker 1>that that animal was directing all of its energy back

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<v Speaker 1>to its body and particularly maybe the immune system that

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<v Speaker 1>it moved on from bucks to dose because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of I guess, uh, the bucks I've seen it were found,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, they've been out there a little while

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<v Speaker 1>so and of course it doesn't seem like the buzzards

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<v Speaker 1>really hit them that hard either. It was like they

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<v Speaker 1>knew something was wrong, but eventually, you know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>their breakfast.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that that that is an interesting thing to

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<v Speaker 3>me that we don't see the we don't see the

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<v Speaker 3>buzzards and coyotes going after these these diseased beer. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as you said, you know, maybe it's hit

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<v Speaker 3>its peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it has.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the rain and cooler temperatures we had a

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<v Speaker 3>week or so ago was was good, but really it

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<v Speaker 3>won't be over until you have that first frost and

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<v Speaker 3>it kills off the midges that are that are the

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<v Speaker 3>ones that spread the disease. But you know, to your

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<v Speaker 3>point about you know, immunities or how the deer are reacting,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's interesting you see a lot of fawns

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<v Speaker 3>because of the lost from that they get from from

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<v Speaker 3>from the dough that a lot of fauns have been

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<v Speaker 3>appear to be you know, immune or making it through

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<v Speaker 3>this bad area. But the other important thing about why

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking at reducing bad bad limits and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people I know a lot of hunters who have

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<v Speaker 3>land and over in those impacted areas Athens, Washington County

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<v Speaker 3>where they're just you know, they're not going to hunt

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<v Speaker 3>it all this year or they're definitely not going to

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<v Speaker 3>take does. And the reason is this Southern deer don't

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<v Speaker 3>really get impacted by EHD. They've they've got an immunity

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<v Speaker 3>to them because you know, just the different temperatures down there,

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<v Speaker 3>there's more exposure. So so the focus on not taking does,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in that hardest hit area, is if they've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's a dough that you're seeing in Athens or

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<v Speaker 3>Washington or Megs or maybe Morgan County that has made

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<v Speaker 3>it through this this pretty serious outbreak, it's a really

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<v Speaker 3>good chance that that that dough has immunity, and those

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<v Speaker 3>are the ones you want to see breeding and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know and bringing the new fawns in next spring

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<v Speaker 3>so that hopefully that immunity can spread throughout the herd.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the whitetail in Ohio can become more

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<v Speaker 3>immune to EHD like the like the whitetail are in

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<v Speaker 3>the southern part of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I never really thought about it or heard it.

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<v Speaker 1>But do they really know that there is an immunity

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<v Speaker 1>that a deer can acquire to fend off something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked to a biologist about it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put that on my list to catch up on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's a year round type of discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am certainly not the expert on that, but

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<v Speaker 3>I have heard from the experts. So when we had

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<v Speaker 3>our council meeting in Athens, we had two physicians come

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<v Speaker 3>and testify. We had a veterinarian testify also with us

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<v Speaker 3>that day was the state veterinarian, doctor Summers from the

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio Department of Agriculture, and all of them well, and

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<v Speaker 3>then also Doc Meckling, a great veteran of the Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>Wildlife Council, who of that marian himself. All of them

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<v Speaker 3>have talked about, you know, the immunity response that some

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<v Speaker 3>deer have to EHD, and and again the ones we

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<v Speaker 3>want to protect are those dose so that when they're

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<v Speaker 3>putting out the faunds, you know, next spring. We hope

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that have some immunity are the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>are building up the herd for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>In the right bucks to handle the job, right, I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would look forward to that, and that can't

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<v Speaker 1>hurt at all. So we're going to hit a break

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<v Speaker 1>here in just a second. But what's your council schedule

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<v Speaker 1>going forward?

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<v Speaker 3>So again, there's that comment period for all hunters until

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<v Speaker 3>October sixteenth, and then we will have our next meeting

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<v Speaker 3>on October twenty second. I think that's probably when we'll

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<v Speaker 3>take a final vote on this and.

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<v Speaker 2>Look forward to have you know, a new rule in

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<v Speaker 2>effect very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, hey, could you sit tight and hang in

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<v Speaker 1>there for a couple more minutes and have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of questions also going forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, sit tight. Jim Samuel my guest with the

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio Wildlife Council, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, Back in the moment, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back the Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Since name, I guess has been Jim Samuel. He visits

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<v Speaker 1>with me, oh a couple times a year especially in

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<v Speaker 1>times of necessity or maybe just to catch up. So Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>if an individuals, if a sportsman has an issue, can

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<v Speaker 1>it come directly to the council or does it need

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the Divisional Wildlife. I'm kind of curious

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<v Speaker 1>because I've never.

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<v Speaker 3>Asked technically it needs to go to the Divisional Wildlife. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I am more than happy, and I know every other

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<v Speaker 3>council member is more than happy to have hunters reach

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<v Speaker 3>out to them. I talk to a lot of groups

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<v Speaker 3>and individual hunters myself. I take their feedback so that

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm speaking a council usually I'm parroting what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>hearing from a lot of folks out there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you can go to the website for the Division Wildlife

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<v Speaker 3>and right there you can send an email to council members.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, we love to hear, we love to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from folks, but probably the most effective thing is for

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<v Speaker 3>folks to be getting there getting their comments and their

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts directly to the Divisional Wildlife because they're the experts,

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<v Speaker 3>they're the ones that put these rule packages together. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just here to kind of assess it and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully maybe massage it a little bit again based on

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<v Speaker 3>the feedback we're getting from hunters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and from what happens around the whole state, not

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe an isolated situation or I guess subject matter

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly. All right, Jim, we thank you for your

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<v Speaker 1>time and we'll wait that final decision and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>i'll have it in my hands probably an hour after

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. So with that, thanks very much, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>catch up down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, good luck to you and all your listeners out

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<v Speaker 3>there in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, But that I'm out of here. Gary Jeff is

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<v Speaker 1>next after the Neonest Hippard the Big Outdoors seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>Be safe in the woods and safe on the one