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Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on

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Speaker 1: the Voice of Boston WRKO.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place.

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Speaker 2: Grace Vuoto my better half, my wonderful wife, and I

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Speaker 2: always say it because it's true. I definitely married up Grace.

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Speaker 2: Trump will address the nation tonight. He now says we'll

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Speaker 2: be leaving you Ron in about two to three weeks,

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Speaker 2: and if the straight at four Moose remains blocked. He's

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Speaker 2: told the Gulf nations, the Europeans, it's your oil, you

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Speaker 2: go and get it. What say you?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Jeff, Thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 3: So first off, at this point, Jeff, all the options

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Speaker 3: on the table are bad. This is now operation cut

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Speaker 3: your losses. And what I would be advising the president

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Speaker 3: is go back to basics, go back to the promises

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Speaker 3: that you made to the peace. So what he needs

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Speaker 3: to do is there's no question that he has to

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Speaker 3: clear the straits because the fact that the straits are

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Speaker 3: blocked impacts the cost of goods around the world, and

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Speaker 3: it's not good for us. So it's in our interest.

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Speaker 3: He now has to clear the straits. He doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a choice really in that in addition, Jeff I would

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Speaker 3: tell him stop giving a timeline. He already told us

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Speaker 3: four to six weeks and that we were ahead of schedule,

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Speaker 3: meaning that everything should have ended like yesterday, and that's

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Speaker 3: not accurate. So he has to stop giving a timeline

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Speaker 3: because it's obvious that events, many many events now are

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Speaker 3: beyond his control. And the more he tries to give

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Speaker 3: a timeline, the more he puts in jeopardy his reputation

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Speaker 3: as a straight shooter and as somebody competent. So there's

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Speaker 3: a lot at stake right now, and he's got to

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Speaker 3: go back to basics in order to make sure that

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Speaker 3: he can preserve his reputation as a straight shooter and

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Speaker 3: as somebody competent. So you got to clear the state

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Speaker 3: the straits, accept that you're cutting your losses. Stop over

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Speaker 3: selling what you did. This is not regime change, this

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Speaker 3: is not a huge victory at best. This is again

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Speaker 3: you slow down the malas a little bit. That's all

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Speaker 3: this is, and just come home, focus on the home front,

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Speaker 3: no more foreign policy, and unite the movement. That's all

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Speaker 3: he can do right now. This is operation cut your losses.

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Speaker 2: Italy, Spain France, Britain don't want to help us with

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Speaker 2: the Strait of Foremouse Italy yesterday and was a surprise

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Speaker 2: because Georgia Maloney is a conservative, she's a i F

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Speaker 2: actually a Trump supporter, but she came out and said,

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Speaker 2: you will not be allowed to use our military basis

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Speaker 2: to fly missions or your fighter jets for Operation Epic Fury.

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Speaker 2: President Trump, now Marco Rubio are saying maybe it's time

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Speaker 2: for us to pull out of NATO. We're done when

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Speaker 2: they need us. We're there when we need them, They're nowhere.

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Speaker 3: What say you, Jeff, This is an erroneous argument. Look,

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Speaker 3: the President has just dealt with a major, major setback.

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Speaker 3: The Supreme Court told him that his trade deals were

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Speaker 3: essentially illegal. So he needs the Europeans to stay in

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Speaker 3: the trade deals. And remember he's been playing hardball with

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Speaker 3: them for ever since he got into the presidency on

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Speaker 3: trade and on trying to take over Greenland. So you

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Speaker 3: know what they are now telling him, you're playing hardball

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Speaker 3: with us. We're going to play hardball with you, and

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Speaker 3: we still do need the Europeans because we want them

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Speaker 3: to stay in these trade deals, so they have more

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Speaker 3: leverage over us than everybody is assuming. In addition, we

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Speaker 3: just don't want to focus on NATO right now, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: this is very discouraging to the average American that is

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Speaker 3: pumping gas at four dollars a gallon and more. For

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Speaker 3: God's sakes, we voted for him to focus on America

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Speaker 3: in the home front. So just go back to basics, please.

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Speaker 3: We don't even want to discuss this right now. It's

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Speaker 3: too much and that's one of the problems with the presidency.

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Speaker 3: He needs to just go back to a few simple

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Speaker 3: goals and get them done.

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Speaker 2: Grace, I want to play a cut and I want

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Speaker 2: to get your reaction. This is President Trump, because now

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Speaker 2: he said, look, their nuclear program has been obliterated, their

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Speaker 2: ballistic missile program has been set back a generation. Basically,

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Speaker 2: now I have defanged the iatolis and so that's a

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Speaker 2: huge military win for the United States. And then when

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Speaker 2: pressed by a reporter, listen to what Trump says about

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Speaker 2: you know, whether you know whether it's worth the short

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Speaker 2: term cost and higher gas or oil prices, or the

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Speaker 2: stock market now is taking a bit of a beating.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what the President said, roll cut three a mike.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing what we've done we had to make a

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Speaker 4: little detour. So when the stock market broke all records

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Speaker 4: just a few weeks ago, when I hit fifty thousand

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Speaker 4: under now seven thousand on the SNP, I said to

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Speaker 4: the American people, it's time that we have maken a

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Speaker 4: little detour, because we have a madman that wants a

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Speaker 4: nuclear weapon, and if we didn't knock him out with

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Speaker 4: a B two bomber, we would have a nuclear weapon

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Speaker 4: right now. It would have been used, it would have

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Speaker 4: been used before this, before today, and you may not

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Speaker 4: be standing there asking that question. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So basically, the Ayatola was a madman. They were a week,

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Speaker 2: maybe two weeks away from a bomb, potentially eight nine,

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Speaker 2: ten bombs. Had he not acted, they would have used

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Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon against Israel or against one of their neighbors,

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Speaker 2: or Rome or Paris, or a country in Europe, and

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Speaker 2: we'd be looking at World War three. That this was

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Speaker 2: an imminent threat that needed to be dealt with immediately,

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Speaker 2: and that the president essentially saved not just the United

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Speaker 2: States but the world. What say you, Well, the.

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Speaker 3: Problem is his own intelligence officials, like Ratcliffe, like Telsey Gabbert,

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Speaker 3: did not confirm this. So he started this with a

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Speaker 3: crisis of credibility, and he continues in the crisis of credibility.

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Speaker 3: The more he speaks. This is not a little detour.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen American service members are dead, three hundred are wounded.

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Speaker 3: This is a war. And the more he talks, he's

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Speaker 3: in quicksand right now, that's why I would say, stop talking,

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Speaker 3: stop giving a timeline, stop over selling, because he's harming

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Speaker 3: his reputation, a reputation that you know, he worked hard

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Speaker 3: to earn as somebody who is competent, as somebody who

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Speaker 3: tells the truth. And right now, every other day he's

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Speaker 3: making contradictory statements. He did ask for unconditional surrender, he's

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Speaker 3: not getting that. He did want regime change, he didn't

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Speaker 3: get that. He did want the Mullas out, He's not

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Speaker 3: getting that. Just stop talking, because we're not stupid. You know.

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Speaker 3: We follow the news and we listen to his words,

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Speaker 3: and we're following the truth home and unfortunately the truth

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Speaker 3: is not going home.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Jeff uh Okay, but we have a minute left.

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Speaker 2: Did Iran in your view, pose an imminent threat? Were

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Speaker 2: they several weeks away from a bomb? And by acting,

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Speaker 2: did Trump save the region? And maybe even the world

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Speaker 2: from a potential nuclear power that could either blackmail the

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Speaker 2: world or actually launch a nuclear attack.

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Speaker 3: No, they were not, because if they were, every intelligence

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Speaker 3: organization in Europe would have been the first in line

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Speaker 3: to join him in the crusade. And they all knew

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Speaker 3: that it was and true. Our own intelligence knew that

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Speaker 3: it wasn't true. The fact is, as I said from

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Speaker 3: the beginning, he got roped in by the neocons who

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Speaker 3: just wanted to hammer Iran, and his foreign policy has

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Speaker 3: been hijacked by them. And that's why he's in quicksand

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Speaker 3: because he broke a key promise to the American people

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Speaker 3: not to govern, not to rule as a neo con

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Speaker 3: and he has been acting as such in foreign policy.

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Speaker 3: That's his problem right now, and that's why his base

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Speaker 3: is slowly fracturing. And I give you so much credit, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: because you're one of the few hosts in America that

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Speaker 3: is working very, very hard to keep both sides in line.

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Speaker 3: But we need him to go back to his promises,

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Speaker 3: go back, go back.

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Speaker 2: To what got him elected. I hear you, doctor Grace.

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Speaker 2: Sorry didn't mean to cut you off, but we're literally

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Speaker 2: right up against it. As always very interesting, fascinating analysis.

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Speaker 1: That Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came

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