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Speaker 2: So let me not even lie and say I tried

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Speaker 1: How was I mean, they won, but how was your

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Speaker 2: You know, it was great?

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Speaker 3: I mean over overall, you know, for me, my experience

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Speaker 2: Winning the game. It was tough.

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Speaker 3: It was tough watching it for me because I saw

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Speaker 2: I saw a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Mistakes in moments that were crucial moments. To put a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I mean that that was sort of At

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Speaker 3: I was looking at the asked the guy I was

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Speaker 3: I was like what And this was like third quarter,

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Speaker 5: Early I know, the long kick return, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think we definitely had moments

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Speaker 2: You can't turn the ball over, you can't.

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Speaker 3: We had crucial penalties in at the absolute wrong time.

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Speaker 3: the To me, it's undisciplined because I don't and of

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Speaker 3: course you shouldn't have to, but the coach has to

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Speaker 3: As far as the offensive football team, they don't have

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Speaker 2: They never would have threw the ball, they probably would

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Speaker 2: What you can. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You take some safe plays and I don't. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: What are we doing not trying to score?

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Speaker 3: I mean to me, that's honestly every team works on that,

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Speaker 2: You work on we're down, we're backed up.

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Speaker 3: We got so many times, so much time left to

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Speaker 2: Really nowadays you're in field goal range.

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Speaker 3: And so I just I just think as from a

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Speaker 3: Comes down to a trust with your coach, and if

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Speaker 2: As early as it was in the game.

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Speaker 4: well we'll run Trock and we're not gonna give them

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Speaker 4: So let's not swing momentum back in their favor at all.

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Speaker 3: That's six. As close as that game was, that was

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Speaker 3: It was very disappointing to watch seeing that how we

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Speaker 5: I want to ask you about you. You mentioned sort of

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Speaker 1: So I didn't give you that go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I remember that sequence. Man, the next play we had

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Speaker 3: punning the ball back. But those those are the undisciplined

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Speaker 2: We didn't play the field position game.

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Speaker 3: If you get them backed up, trust me, they have

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Speaker 1: Exactly the coaches that are allowing it. How would you

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing I don't the coaches don't allow it,

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Speaker 2: You know better, so do better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're twenty eighth. The Broncs are twenty eighth in

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Speaker 3: Many different guys and the energy that they played with

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Speaker 4: Well, this is an argument I'm making, and we have

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Speaker 1: You're barely using the guys you have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like your number one wide receiver, it's three targets

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Speaker 5: You would understand better than anybody the challenge of if

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Speaker 5: not I wouldn't think that's easy anyways. And then on

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Speaker 2: The ball is going.

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Speaker 3: And that's sad that I know that because I haven't

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Speaker 3: I just show up to the game, catch the game,

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Speaker 3: You know, they got a bunch of high draft picks

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Speaker 3: So they get defensive line in a lot and they

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't know that. Other teams know that, who get

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Speaker 3: paid to know that? But to go back to your point,

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Speaker 3: bring Jamon Chasing here. You know what you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: now everybody knows, Hey, we just combo coverage on Jamon Chasen.

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Speaker 3: Then whatever they were playing, it ain't gonna work. And

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Speaker 3: you gotta be able to play through OUs moss. What

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Speaker 3: guys are just as we call it, as the great

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Speaker 3: late Alas gives you said you gotta be a football

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Speaker 3: a football player, improvised, be able to make plays out

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Speaker 3: And we can't just be these stick figures or he's

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Speaker 3: I stopped counting. We threw the ball behind the lamp screens.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to simulate a wide running play. Run the ball,

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Speaker 3: get the ball to JK. Dobbins and go downhill with

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Speaker 1: We got tell them what you heard from Marvin Mims today?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I right out, yes, talking to Marvin about this

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Speaker 1: But he said, exactly what you said. It's an extension

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Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody can pull it up because My thing

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Speaker 3: But you've ran it six seven times, and maybe you

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, And because I think those guys do

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Speaker 3: They're not moving guys out of way, and receivers don't

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Speaker 3: You try to position block, and Dobbinson is getting some

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Speaker 3: But let's line up in a balance set and get

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Speaker 3: They obviously canin gotta do a lot of thinking. You're

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Speaker 3: we got time for that. Whenever you they played that way,

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Speaker 3: We got plenty of time. We're not racing the clock,

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Speaker 3: It's just a lot of things that I see, small things.

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Speaker 4: all come back. I do want to ask you a

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Speaker 4: little bit more about the not having easy plays. I

442
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Speaker 4: thought that was a great point we were just talking

443
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Speaker 4: about that. I want to get your thoughts on what

444
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Speaker 4: that could look like. We'll get to that next conversation

445
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Speaker 4: here about the the Broncos win.

446
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Speaker 1: It is a win.

447
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Speaker 4: Ultimately, a couple will pointing out to reminding us that

448
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Speaker 4: it was a win. So Rob, let's talk about the

449
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Speaker 4: easy stuff and why there's lack of it more and

450
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Speaker 4: more than anything, why why does it seem like and

451
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Speaker 4: I asked Parker this earlier, why does it seem like

452
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Speaker 4: everything is so hard at times with this offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I think we've talked about this. I've talked

454
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Speaker 3: about this for the last few years. I still don't

455
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Speaker 3: believe we have that identity. We have an identity crisis.

456
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Speaker 3: You know, one day we're running the ball and we're

457
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Speaker 3: one of the best running teams in the league, and

458
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Speaker 3: the next one we're throwing it and we're mediocre passing

459
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Speaker 3: the ball. Right now, unfortunately, I think we got the personnel.

460
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Speaker 3: I think I've had a lot of people came up

461
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Speaker 3: to me, especially after the game, you know, some of course,

462
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Speaker 3: a lot of Bronco fans were at the game in

463
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Speaker 3: London and then and they realized who I was when

464
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Speaker 3: you ruin my day. But they just start asking, like,

465
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Speaker 3: what's going on? This is not and to me, it

466
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Speaker 3: still comes down to an identity. You got to identify

467
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Speaker 3: how you're going to be as a as a club,

468
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Speaker 3: especially on the offense side of the ball, where you

469
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Speaker 3: used to a great offenses around here. And that don't

470
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Speaker 3: mean they don't mean you can't win the championship with

471
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Speaker 3: the offense we have, but if you're gonna rely so

472
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Speaker 3: much heavily on your defense, and and those guys are

473
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Speaker 3: doing a great job because it's still a team game.

474
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Speaker 3: But I just think I think there's some there's some

475
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Speaker 3: easier plays for us to be made. I think a

476
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Speaker 3: base the base package you put in from week one.

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Speaker 3: Uh one thing we did is we always had that.

478
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Speaker 1: What do you think is a base package for this time?

479
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Speaker 3: I don't like running ball out of spread offense. I've

480
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 3: said that a thousand times. I think you get up

481
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Speaker 3: under center and let the running backs start going downhill.

482
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Speaker 3: So as there's a crack, he hits the hole, he

483
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Speaker 3: gets one one cutting down one, cutting the cloud dust

484
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Speaker 3: as we call it, he gonna get two three yards.

485
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Speaker 3: I think Dobbinson is a great veteran running back. I

486
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Speaker 3: remember we were talking about, you know, trying to save

487
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Speaker 3: him overall for later on in the year.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, that's a shaw thing. More so you do

489
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Speaker 1: want to tell me, I don't know.

490
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Speaker 2: I don't get to go to the movie.

491
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to help you, help me with your analysis.

492
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, but either way, either way, I just

493
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Speaker 3: think for having the young group that we have, we

494
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Speaker 3: have a veteran more of a veteran office line. I

495
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Speaker 3: think it makes it easier for them if you don't

496
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Speaker 3: have so much so many options. Uh, it's like a restaurant.

497
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Speaker 3: You have to go to a restaurant and they got

498
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Speaker 3: sixty five thousand things on the menu. I don't like

499
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Speaker 3: those restaurants. I want the restaurant with like fifteen things

500
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Speaker 3: and they're excellent at six of them. Because usually that

501
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Speaker 3: what is your highest sole thing? So we go back

502
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Speaker 3: and we look at our office. What is our best

503
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Speaker 3: running play, what is our best passing play, what's the personnel,

504
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Speaker 3: what's the set? And here's my thing. You that's how

505
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Speaker 3: you create identity. You have full running plays, two to

506
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Speaker 3: the left, two to the right. On why one's tight?

507
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Speaker 3: You got three fox six past plays. Really you can

508
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: flip them left and right, but you got about five

509
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Speaker 3: pass plays that no matter what comes on defense, we

510
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Speaker 3: can run them and DeFore no one has to think.

511
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Speaker 3: And I was a parking I was talking off air.

512
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Speaker 3: I was talking about the receivers being interchangeable. Bull shouldn't

513
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Speaker 3: have to worry about who's the receiver is. He knows

514
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Speaker 3: where I'm throwing to a spot and whoever the receiver

515
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Speaker 3: is gonna be in that spot. That's the way eye

516
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Speaker 3: coach is. His job is there's a window here. You

517
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Speaker 3: get to the window. If you're Courtland, if you're Men's,

518
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 3: if you're Franklin, if you're one of the young guys,

519
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: I don't care who it is. You're gonna get here

520
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Speaker 3: on time because we need you there on time. That's

521
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Speaker 3: what Alex Gibbs thing. Alex was my guy, and I

522
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Speaker 3: learned a lot when I was on scout team. It

523
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Speaker 3: was certain things he told me to do on scout

524
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Speaker 3: team that I transferred over to the offense and it

525
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Speaker 3: helped my career.

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Speaker 1: Didn't it seem last year.

527
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure they had a real identity in terms

528
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 5: of running the football last year, but last year, third

529
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Speaker 5: down key situations, however, they dressed it up. Courtland running

530
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Speaker 5: the inbreaker on dagger was like they just came back

531
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Speaker 5: to it over and over and over again, and they

532
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Speaker 5: they found that a lot. And even that doesn't it

533
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Speaker 5: just doesn't feel like they've really found a lot of rhythm.

534
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Speaker 5: Did you think after the Philadelphia game, because Cincinnati was

535
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Speaker 5: what it was, But then when they ran the ball well,

536
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Speaker 5: even when they were trailing in the second half against Philadelphia,

537
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Speaker 5: you started I started to think, Okay, maybe this is it,

538
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Speaker 5: maybe this is the identity.

539
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Speaker 1: And then it just didn't translate on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cause here's the thing, we don't know if they

541
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Speaker 3: ran the same sets. Yeah, because remember it's a running

542
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Speaker 3: the football, even passing the football, but really running the

543
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Speaker 3: football is a mindset.

544
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Speaker 2: It's it's mono mono.

545
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Speaker 3: I got to kick my man's but my guy to

546
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Speaker 3: get three four five yards of crack and if they

547
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Speaker 3: make a mistake, it's gonna hit him for twenty And

548
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: that's the way is. But it's something like we it's

549
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: somebody's Sometimes we seem like we don't even give it

550
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Speaker 3: a chance. I believe running backs need to get in

551
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: a rhythm. I know the great Terrell Davis could, he could,

552
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Speaker 3: he could verify this. He hardly ever came off the

553
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: field so he got a chance to get in a rhythm.

554
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Speaker 3: He can see how much the linebackers are flowing, and

555
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: he know it looks like a cutback, but it's not

556
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: a cutback. He's just been setting up the whole day

557
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: based off his play action fakes and based off his

558
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: type runs versus wide runs. And it's hard to do

559
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Speaker 3: when you switching formations and personnel every other time, it's

560
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Speaker 3: hard to get in the rhythm as a running back.

561
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Speaker 3: I saw Dobbs come off the field like he was

562
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Speaker 3: in the play that he's out.

563
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Speaker 2: He's in the play that he was out.

564
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Speaker 3: And the man we talked about the previous week, you said,

565
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Speaker 3: well they were doing series. Well that seemed to work better,

566
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Speaker 3: but they were doing series. That's like Parker just said,

567
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Speaker 3: how can you get the identity if I got four

568
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Speaker 3: different guys in there? Every every other step, it's four

569
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Speaker 3: different guys. Not saying that those guys can't do it,

570
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Speaker 3: because they should.

571
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Speaker 2: Be able to do it.

572
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Speaker 1: A lot of moving parts, a lot of moving parts.

573
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Speaker 3: And I and I just I just know I believe

574
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Speaker 3: for both has all the tools. He can throw the

575
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Speaker 3: deep ball, he can throw the intermediate pass. If the

576
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: pocket breaks down, he can move and he keeps his

577
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: eyes down field very well. But it's just got to

578
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: be some plays, like you said, some easy plays early

579
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Speaker 3: in the game when we went wide and they threw

580
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Speaker 3: like a slant to the inside. Guy think it was

581
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Speaker 3: an inside slant on first down, second and seven, I

582
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 3: mean second and three. Now, you can run the ball

583
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Speaker 3: all day. It's gonna be thirty short. If you do

584
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Speaker 3: pass it and you missed, you can still running on

585
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Speaker 3: third or throw it on third. Now you got defensive ballance.

586
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: But we say third and eight thirty nine, Yeah, we

587
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: turn in thirteen thirty sixteen. Man, you better be passing

588
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: the ball. And a couple time we ran the ball

589
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Speaker 3: on third and laws.

590
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Speaker 4: So the one thing I am liking over the last

591
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks is Evan Ingram being a bigger factor,

592
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Speaker 4: and so I was exciting. It is exciting, and it's

593
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Speaker 4: kind of of what we thought he could be for

594
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Speaker 4: this team. So if you're looking for some something easy

595
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 4: that seems like a guy that might be able to

596
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Speaker 4: unlock a couple of things for the offense, you agree.

597
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because here's my thing. When you got a tight

598
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: end that can run routes, he's a good blocker. But

599
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: he's a route runner. He's a guy that can catch

600
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 3: the balls. He's a high pass on the sideline that

601
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: he called he kept drive going those type of things,

602
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Speaker 3: plus coming off of what.

603
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Speaker 2: He did previous week.

604
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Speaker 3: To me, you don't want to feature him, but you

605
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: can feed him and feed him. Is he had five catches.

606
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Speaker 3: He should have five to six targets every game in

607
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: my opinion, but Colin having three targets to me, I

608
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: ain't gonna say it's unacceptable, but because you want a game,

609
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: you can always overlook it when you win the game.

610
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: But my thing is is there's the reason why you

611
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: paid this guy what you pay him. There's a reason

612
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Speaker 3: why this guy got to the point where he's got

613
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Speaker 3: to as a pro bowler and all that. I want

614
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Speaker 3: to see MIM's run routes. I want to see him

615
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Speaker 3: run routes. He gets the jet sweeps, he gets the

616
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Speaker 3: kind of the gadget plays the bubble screens. Well, I

617
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Speaker 3: never seen him run in route. I've never seen him

618
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Speaker 3: run an out route. I want to see him run

619
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Speaker 3: a post route, like a regular post route. You know daggers.

620
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: We call daggers a fifteen eighteen yard in route I

621
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Speaker 3: think this kid can do it because he got the

622
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Speaker 3: quickness and the speed, but when it's that dowed up

623
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Speaker 3: and you're doing it all out of tight splits, it

624
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Speaker 3: can make it difficult.

625
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Speaker 5: It's interesting too with with going back to Hangram just

626
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Speaker 5: for a second, I think five touches for the catches

627
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 5: and they handed it to him on an end round

628
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 5: all in the first quarter, just like you're talking about,

629
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Speaker 5: you sort of get him the ball early in the game.

630
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Speaker 5: That was when you saw the rhythm and they've got

631
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Speaker 5: ways to get you know, particularly to call a guy's

632
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Speaker 5: number and say we're going to give him the ball

633
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 5: some way, somehow. But that it sort of went away

634
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 5: over the course of the game and then it got

635
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 5: you know, Courland obviously a tough matchup with with sauce

636
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 5: Gardner there, but it looked like they sort of maybe

637
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 5: just wanted wanted to go elsewhere early. But you're right,

638
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 5: I mean, when Corland's a good soldier, you know, when

639
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 5: he doesn't has a game where he doesn't get the

640
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: ball much, he doesn't complain about it.

641
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Speaker 1: But he's a guy. Obviously you have to figure out

642
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: ways to get the ball to Yeah.

643
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: I mean it's no diffidence if we go get a

644
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: receiver like we were talking about, you got to find

645
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: a way to get in the ball, right or is

646
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: it the is it the package in itself? Is it

647
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: just the offensive scheme itself. It doesn't warrant that you

648
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: have to scheme everybody open or can you just line

649
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: up and play football? I like when we I just

650
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: and it sounds bad. Hopefully we don't have to be.

651
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: But I like when we're down and in the clock

652
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 3: is against us because we go with the tempo and

653
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: we spread it out and the guy's barely going back

654
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: to the huddle with the next play is already called

655
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: and it's not a lot of checks. Is We're gonna

656
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: dial this up and run it and if it breaks down,

657
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 3: the quarterback decides if it breaks down, and then they

658
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Speaker 3: go from there they play. I mean, you saw it

659
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: against a you know, the defendise Super Bowl champs, undefeated

660
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: team in the league with Philly, and then we come

661
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: back against the worst team in the league and we

662
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: don't see any of the stuff that.

663
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: We just saw. No doubt you got one more saving yes, yeah,

664
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: all right? Cool. I want to ask you about DT

665
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: who's gonna be going in the Ring of Fame.

666
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I.

667
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Can't wait to do that, filling in for Ben. Looking

668
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: forward to that. All right, So the Broncos are.

669
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: Going to honor Marius Thomas and the twenty fifteen Super

670
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: Bowl team, which is going to be really really cool

671
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: on Sunday. But various Thomas going into the Ring of Fame.

672
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, you spend a lot of time around DT.

673
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: I know that, I know this is going to be

674
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: especially as a fellow Ring of Fame member, that's going

675
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: to mean a lot.

676
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: Look look, look, looking forward to it. Man couldn't have

677
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: been a better guy to deserve that. Lily wish he

678
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: was here to see the love that the city has

679
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: for him. He left here on some bad terms when

680
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 3: he went to When he went down to Houston, we

681
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: talked about that the love is going to be there.

682
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: His teammates, his former teammates, the super Bowl team, they're

683
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: going to be there. I think in a bunch of

684
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: the group chats I'm in with some of the guys,

685
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: a bunch of the former players, they're all coll lot

686
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: of them coming back. I think this is our biggest

687
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: group of former players that are coming back. The organizations

688
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: done a great job. Dominic I gotta give Dominicq. Dominick's

689
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: the guy man, he's in one hands. A lot of

690
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: alumni stuff and the organization that the only group are

691
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: going to really roll out the red carpet, the green carpet,

692
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: the blue carpet, every colored carpet you could think of

693
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: DT and that team because it was a special moment

694
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: in Bronco's history and they deserve it.

695
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 5: With the Marius, anyone you talk to talks about just

696
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: the smile and the attitude and just you put in

697
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: perspective how difficult that is and such in this business

698
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: to be able to show up with that kind of

699
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 5: attitude and be that kind of light as often as

700
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: he as he was.

701
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

702
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, he you know what he came to work.

703
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: He always wanted. He had this chip on his shoulder

704
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: to prove that he was worthy of that first round pick.

705
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: You know, he came in, he was injured, and.

706
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: So you know, we had conversations about that, and I say,

707
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: just the first thing you do is heal up and

708
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: then go do what you do. You don't become a

709
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: first round pick by not being a beast at the

710
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: receiving position. And we worked on really more mindset stuff

711
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: than it was physical stuff, because physical tools he had, right,

712
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: And so I just appreciated him reaching out to me

713
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: because he trusted me to, you know, say hey man,

714
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: I need some help with this, dios this, And most

715
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: guys in this day and age, this era, they don't,

716
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: they don't reach out to the veteran. Benny foul was

717
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: one who did it with me, Andie Rowe was one

718
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: who did it a few other guys that did it,

719
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: and and it feels good that you're just a part

720
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: of it behind the scenes.

721
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: And nothing I did, but.

722
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: I just I just loved the fact the way he

723
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: approached football. He loved his teammates, every last one of them,

724
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: and it was nothing he wouldn't do for them on

725
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: and off the field. And that the type of person

726
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: he was. And we're definitely gonna celebrate him.

727
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: I mean, one of his most memorable moments, of course,

728
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 4: is the catch with with Tim Tebow in the playoff

729
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: game against the Steelers. But I think that the most

730
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: remarkable thing. And of course he was always great to interview.

731
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: He was always really generous with his time. Just just

732
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: obviously an amazing player. But to think about what he

733
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: had to do in that offense to when he got

734
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: Peyton manning here and the precision at the way Peyton

735
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: had to do things and the way.

736
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Speaker 1: That you had to operate.

737
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: I mean there that didn't work for everybody there were,

738
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: there were receivers. I could think Hody Latimer for example,

739
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: that it could not work for him. But Marius Thomas

740
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: had to rethink the way he played the position just

741
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: to be with Peter Peyton.

742
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'm not going to tell the whole story.

743
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: But one time I was at after practice watching he

744
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: and I and Decker and we were watching practice when

745
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: t Bow was quarterback, and I think they had to

746
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: play the Vikings. I think they had like two completed

747
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: passes or something like that.

748
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: But Chiefs, they had two completed passes.

749
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: And they were pissed and they should have been. And

750
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: they were talking and I'm like, hey, hey, wait, wait, wait,

751
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: there's a microphone in here. They didn't know there was

752
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: a microphone in the receiver room. I took him out

753
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: in the hall. We had a little men's talk and

754
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: I explained to him. I said, guys, you don't control

755
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: that part. I said, I know, it's frustrating, it sucks

756
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: you're running great routes, balls not on time. I said,

757
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: you got to keep running your route and eventually it'll

758
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: it'll work out. And you know, in the playoff game

759
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: it did. The timing was perfect. The one time they

760
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: had timing, it was in a playoff game to win it,

761
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: and uh, you know those guys. And then, of course

762
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: he definitely transitioned with Peyton because now now we start

763
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: teaching different things. I said, now you got to be

764
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: here on time. This thing I would tell you Parker

765
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: earlier about precision. It doesn't matter who's that receiver, the

766
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: windows here, the quarterback storing here, you get to that window.

767
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: And he had an amazing time, amazing season, you know,

768
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: of course playing him and my many Manuel Man, they

769
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: had an awesome season playing with Peyton because they knew

770
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: where the ball was gonna be and it was gonna

771
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: be their own time. Denver's football first snap of overtime

772
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: here tied at twenty three e lion of scrimmage. The

773
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: Bronco twenty shotgun for Tim Tebow sharp motion is that

774
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: he Royal tim playfakes in the pocket, sets throws past pocks.

775
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: Damaris Thomas out on the forty five midfield.

776
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: Here we go forty thirty five foot race, twenty fifteen.

777
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: Ten touchdown, Denver, it's over. It's all for a Denver.

778
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: That laid in the game.

779
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: And you know he got faster, Yeah, he got fast.

780
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: He calls the ball that late in the game and

781
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: he's pulling away from the guys as when he caught

782
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: it and hit him with that step on because the man.

783
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Was a strong guy.

784
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: And I was there, I was I lost it. I

785
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: lost my breath and everything in that game.

786
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: I couldn't I couldn't talk for a couple of days

787
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: after that one.

788
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: I think about that game when I think about great

789
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: DT moments, and there were so many good ones. I

790
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: also think about the I think it was a seven

791
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: touchdown ormance against the Ravens on Opening night, the Ravens

792
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: that just won the Super Bowl. Of course, they were

793
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: here the year before beat the Broncos in that ice

794
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: ice game, and DT caught I think it was the

795
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: seventh touchdown was a jail break screen, right, and he

796
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: just took at the distance.

797
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: A massive play. But again, you just got fat towards

798
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: the end of the game.

799
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: He's just got faster, and I mean it, it was

800
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: remarkable what.

801
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: Kind of impact he had on the field.

802
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: And you know, there's some tough times with drops, and

803
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 4: you know, I think there's sometimes, but I think overwhelmingly

804
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: when you bring up to Mary's Thomas, as you mentioned Parker,

805
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: you talk about his personality, but we certainly talk about

806
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: some of.

807
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: Those big moments.

808
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

809
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: No, I remember when he had a little moment. He

810
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: had a couple of drops and everybody's like, old trade them,

811
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. He kinds of idiots. I called it

812
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: the way I see it, because here's the thing. The

813
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: stats that he had with a few drops he had

814
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: was still better than the top most of your top

815
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: ten guys in the league. His bad years, he was

816
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: having twelve and thirteen hundred yards.

817
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: This was bad.

818
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: These are bad years. I said, anybody else get twelve

819
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: thirteen hundred yards. You know what they're doing.

820
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: They're going to renegotiate the contract. You know what I'm saying.

821
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: And so he had a he had a few drops

822
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and I said, guys, this is

823
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: this is hard. It is very difficult to do. And

824
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: he was a master. He was a professional. And I'm

825
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: so happy that, you know, not a great man a

826
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: great friend gets gets gets get immortalized, you know, in

827
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: that stadium with the with with with the rest of us,

828
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: in front of the world.

829
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Speaker 1: And he deserves that, perfectly said