1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Dave Logan, Ryan that Wards five six six nine zeros 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: or Kawe comment Spirit health text line. It's MLB Opening 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Day night, sort of very excited about the Giants and Yankees. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Dave's Yankees getting underway. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: What's up, Dave. 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Good to see you. 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: Grew up a Yankee fan. Good for you too, Ryan. So, uh, 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: I don't know how much. I don't think I expect 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: a great season from the Yankees, but yeah, it's exciting. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: I will definitely uh, I'll definitely be watching tonight. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Why are you being negative on the Yankees. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: I'm just being honest about it. 13 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Whole springs eternal, this is I'm just being honest. This 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: is the time to be optimistic. 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, then you know what, damn Yankees won one 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: hundred games and win the Alies. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Here you go. They'll be like, oh, I'm so scared 18 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: of the total. 19 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: Dude, scared. There's there's in this studio. 20 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: There's only one body that that affliction has. 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: O the boss are red Socks. 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like me. It's not like me that 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: the listeners they love. 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Their judge, I love them nuggets. Yeah, yeah, how about 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: how about them? 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Did we have I can't remember you know, I've I've 27 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: I have suffered some head trauma in the past and 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: ever now and then it sort of affects my memory. 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: I can't remember. Did we wager on that game? Did 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: we Phoenix or I. 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Thought Phoeas would win? I mean I went to and 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: oh and and show me the money. Yeah, of course, 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: but of course it's like winning the battle and losing 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: the war. 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: So you did so it was you, Yes, it was 37 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: me Phoenix last night to win, I said, Phoenix was 38 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: really The Nuggets tried to give him the game, absolutely tried. 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: To give him the game. There was So the first quarter, 40 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: Phoenix was up by seven, You're thinking, all. 41 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: Right, about eleven and halftime, Yeah, Nuggets are up ten 42 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: at halftime, that's right. 43 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: And so you're thinking, all right, well the Nuggets are 44 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: going to run away with this thing. And then Phoenix 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: battle back and they won the third quarter, and then 46 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: they they ended up tiling the fourth quarter. But it 47 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: just was remarkable because Joker hits that shot with eleven 48 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: seconds left. Phoenix got two good looks. They did, Devin 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Booker a look at the three, and then I want 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: to say it was. 51 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: Oh, Jalen was a jailing green. 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: I think it was Roys O'Neil. I had the put back, 53 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: but either way I will pay off. I bet it 54 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: was for a burger. Now, what is more disappointing about 55 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: losing the bet is you're gonna wear flannel. That was 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: the thing that was most exciting for me. 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 4: I was gonna wear flannel had you won. 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: That's right, and I want to I mean, to me, 59 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: I'm on fairly safe ground wagering me wearing flannel if 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: I lose, if I'm going to bet against you. 61 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: So you're saying that I should have understood in the 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: moment that once you said I'm bet, I'm willing to 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: bet flannel and edinburger. But I'm willing to that's pretty 64 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: much more to luck. You know you're gonna win that bet. 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying is you should by now 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: have this figured out that when we do wager, it 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: seems to be a tad bit one sided. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: That's okay, we're still friends. 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Well I think we are still friends because you keep waiting. 70 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: No, listen, I've had to shake hands many time after 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: losing a contest. 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: Okay, well just not many to you, not me. But 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: I've done it. 74 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Before in my life if ever, But yeah, I love this. 75 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: We'll enjoy the burger. 76 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll pay off that bed. You let me know 77 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: time and place and in place? What is the or 78 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: what kind of burgers you have in mind? Because there's 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: obviously levels to this thing. 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: I mean, do I have to eat it with you? 81 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Or do you you do with me? 82 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 83 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: Okay, no you don't have to. But I just kidding. 84 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Are we going like gourmet? 85 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: Like? 86 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: No? 87 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: Man, i'st no, no, no, we don't have to do that. 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm you name your place? Where do you because honestly, god, 89 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: I can't remember the last I think the last fast 90 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: food burger I got was when I was in with 91 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: the team that I coach and we all stopped into 92 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: in and out and out. 93 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that. 94 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Might have been the last one. Well, you you pick 95 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and choose. We're good well fast food. I do like 96 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: a Burger King because they have. 97 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: An advice will be a veggie burger? Does it well? 98 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: For me? It does? I mean, if we're gonna eat 99 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: it together. Now, if I'm just gonna buy you. 100 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: A burger with you, I'm gonna enjoy your company. 101 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, we're gonna, We're gonna, as they'd like 102 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: to say, bond, We're gonna bod Okay, look forward to that. 103 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Well, in that case, it's worth it. There's a couple 104 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: of really ridiculous stats that I saw last night on Nikoliokic. 105 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 1: So this one first, Nicole Jokic is he currently leads 106 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: the NBA in rebounds in March with one hundred and 107 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: sixty seven. That's not too surprising as a center, right, Yeah. 108 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: He also leads the NBA and assists in March with 109 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven. Since the NBA ABA merger. 110 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: The only player to lead the league in both in 111 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the same month was Nikola Jokic back in twenty twenty three. 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: Wow. 113 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the only player in the history. So he 114 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: did it in February twenty twenty three, and then now 115 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: he's of. 116 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty three season end up. You remember, Oh gosh, 117 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: I can't remember. 118 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 119 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: I was. 120 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: I was pretty petrified of what was gonna happen this yeon. 121 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: But what happened? Oh? They won? 122 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh they won at all? 123 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: Okay, And so he's done it again in twenty twenty six. Okay, Well, hey, 124 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: I listen, we're gonna have some fun when the playoffs start. 125 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: I still feel there there. I'll be completely honest about it. 126 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: I'm picking the Nuggets to win the West, go to 127 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: the NBA Finals, and if they do that, I think 128 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: they're going to be world champs. And I've picked them 129 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: since like well when the so probably before Christmas. 130 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: All right. 131 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: There are stretches of play as I watched them closely 132 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: where I'm like, oh God, what what are we doing here? 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: What what are we doing? But I'm going to stick 134 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: with them. I think you've got the best player in 135 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: the world. 136 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: You know. 137 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: Murray has stepped up and shown the ability that he's 138 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: been more aggressive, at least in my book, offensively. I 139 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: like the fact that occasionally he he's going to pull 140 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: up in transition and cast from three. He didn't really 141 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: do that a lot a few years back. He does 142 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: it more now. Maybe he developed that when Nicole was 143 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: on the bench with the injury. I don't know. Can't 144 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: wait to get Peyton Watson back full time. I love 145 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: the fact that ag is back and playing. I think 146 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: Bruce Brown has to be on the floor a bit 147 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: more for my liking, because I think he brings you 148 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. He brings you defensive toughness, he 149 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: brings you intensity, he can hit a clutch shot. He's 150 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: just a really good basketball player. So I'm advocating to 151 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: see him a bit more. I like that Cam has 152 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: sort of come out of his funk bit and now 153 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: looks like a much more confident perimeter shooter, which he's 154 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: going to have to be. 155 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: Uh, And he's gonna have to. 156 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: Knock shots down in the playoffs, and I think he's 157 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: he's capable of. That's so yeah, I mean I I 158 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: I like their chances. They will not be the favorite 159 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: for sure. Oak City is the favorite. I like their 160 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: chances to come out of the West. 161 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I like her optimism. Well, thank you, I'm willing to 162 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: buy in. 163 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: Thank you. 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, we don't know, we know, 165 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: we don't need you to buy in. You stay with 166 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: Oak City? Or is it Minnesota? Or or is it 167 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: who is it today? Who you're working for today? 168 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: In the West? 169 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Maybe still like I'm waffling, I've been pretty consistent saying 170 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: that I think Oklahoma's the best team in the West 171 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: the last several years. 172 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: Really, what happened when the Nuggets were you're not worried 173 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: about the Nuggets. 174 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: And the Timberwolves. 175 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: I was worried about. 176 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: You're worried about that. I told anybody else you're worried about. 177 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Worry about timber Wolves anymore. I'm good. I'm good all that. 178 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: So you've I've graduated. 179 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: Anybody else in the West you're worried about about Golden 180 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: State probably won't. 181 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: Get in about them. 182 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: No, no, not who. 183 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: Else sort of worries I can tell. I can tell 184 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: from the look on your face. 185 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Houston's lengths, stiat links. San Antonio's got some links. 186 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: So you're worried about let me just say in order, 187 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: Oak City, Minnesota, I'm as Houston, San Antonio. So you're 188 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: worried about those fours? There anybody else the Lakers are 189 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: we're worried about. There's the five Preverty hot right, worried? Okay, 190 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: so we're worried about the five. I'm not worried about 191 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: any of them. 192 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Before let me be one more really cool stat here 193 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: for Nicola Jokish, and I have a question for you. 194 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: So this was us last night. Nicola Jokish had twenty 195 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: three points, seventeen rebounds, seventeen assists, games of twenty three 196 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: or more points, seventeen or more rebounds, seventeen or more assists. 197 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: Nicola Okus has three of those in his career. The 198 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: rest of the NBA history there are four players or 199 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: four time that's happened. 200 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: What was what was the stats again? 201 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so he had twenty three, seventeen and seventeen. Yep, 202 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: so games of twenty three, seventeen and seventeen or more. Okay, 203 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: Niccola yo, because he's done that three times in his career. 204 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: The rest of the NBA history is out of four. 205 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: So you want to know who did it for? I mean, 206 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: do you know? 207 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: I don't. 208 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine Wilson there somewhere. 209 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: I think we would be one of them. 210 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Magic might be yep, Magic might be maybe even 211 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: his rookie season. I wouldn't think Oscar, I don't. I 212 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: don't know, Bird maybe. 213 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: Jan I'll see if I can look this up really quick. 214 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: And it says Nicole Yokicic, Well, for sure, it's got 215 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: to be. I mean, Will it's got to be in there. 216 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: He's almost always in there. 217 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: You know. 218 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: I'll see if I can look that up and have 219 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: the free a little later on. But the question I 220 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: want to ask you really quickly because we were talking 221 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: about rotations yesterday a bit, so I'm a little sproud. 222 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: I think he needs to play better, obviously, but Yonas 223 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: valancunis not playing d n P. 224 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't White get that. 225 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I started to wonder a little bit about 226 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: as we had our discussion and rotations last night. Now, 227 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Spencer Jones is playing in part because Peyton Watson he's 228 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: not right. 229 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: And he also is playing in part because he gives 230 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: them toughness and hustle and defensive ability. He gives you 231 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: the grit that this team at times lacks. 232 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Now, you know, but is he a postseason guy? 233 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: He had one game, absolutely, to me, absolutely, he had 234 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: one game, the Laker game, in which he made two 235 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: or three critical errors down the stretch. And you could 236 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: make the case that those errors led directly to that loss. 237 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: They gave the game away. 238 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: But if you block out on a free throw, which 239 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: I believe that was his man right when. 240 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: Not Lucas the White Kid? 241 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, no, No, Lakers, Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves 242 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: was on the free throw line less than six seconds ago, 243 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: I think, and he makes the first one, you know, 244 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: you know, and instead of stepping in and blocking him out, 245 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 3: you know, he pinches the two slot. And so we 246 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: know how that that's just you know, that's a mistake. 247 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: But I love his aggressiveness, his toughness, his grit, his 248 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: willingness to put a body on people. 249 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: Uh, he's constantly moving. 250 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: He's not a great offensive player, but I yes to answer, 251 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: I mean, from my standpoint, he absolutely would be in 252 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: the rotation in the postseason. 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: So you're looking at more of like a four, like 254 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: like nine ten kind of play, because this is the 255 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: thing like Tim always gonna play. 256 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, Strawther is he Strather is kind of. 257 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: The the ace and the hole. 258 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 3: I've seen him when he's knocking down shots and the 259 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: and they need offense from time to time, perimeter offense. Sure, 260 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: he's not nearly as good defensively right as as Jones. 261 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: So so those are the four guys that played last 262 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: night off the bench, now including Peyton Watson and not 263 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: including Yodasvaloncinis. 264 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean, I'm not saying, I'm not saying 265 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: how many minutes Jones is going to get, but he's 266 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna get some minutes when I need to 267 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: sort of shake up something, or when I need a 268 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: physical presence, you know, I need somebody to get on 269 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: the floor. 270 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: I need somebody to set a good pick. 271 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: I need somebody to get out on the wing, cut 272 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: get a lay up. I mean, he's I think he's 273 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: a valuable guy for the Nuggets. 274 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: So I guess you have to sort of figure out 275 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: the rotation. 276 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: A little bit of that rotation, to me, will depend 277 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: on how the guys are going, like if Christian Brown's 278 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: you know, back, and I still wonder if he's completely 279 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: healthy in terms of his explosion. Right saw him on 280 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: a break, not this game, but the last game, And 281 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: normally CB is one of the I mean, he's one 282 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: of the really good finishers we have in the league. 283 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: I just didn't see that explosion. 284 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 285 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: He's out there playing, But I don't know if he's 286 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: completely healthy, that ankle fills one hundred percent or not, 287 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 288 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't know either. So as I was looking at 289 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: the rotations last night, started thinking about that a little 290 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: bit more. As we're kind of winding it now again, 291 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: you're playing without the full deck. You don't have Peyton Watson, 292 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna have limited minutes probably for him the rest 293 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: of the way, maybe even limited minutes for or Gordon. 294 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: We don't know if he's gonna play tonight. So I 295 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: understand for David Adaman, he's still gonna be playing with 296 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: this some of the rotations. But I am fascinated to 297 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: see because Michael Malone very successfully ran eight man, right he. 298 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: Did that, Yeah, then went down to six. Yeah. 299 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: No, no, I know that's what I'm saying. But he 300 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: like he as thin of a bench as possible. He 301 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: wants the starters out there. 302 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. 303 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: I mean again, I think a lot of it depends 304 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: on how you're going. But if you're talking about winning 305 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: sixteen games to win a championship, and I think this 306 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: team has to look at it that way, not like, hey, 307 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: we just want to do what we have to do 308 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: to get through this first round and then we'll regroup 309 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: and get through the second round. I think you have 310 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: to have you have to have an eye on the 311 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: big picture and that we got to find a way 312 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: to win sixteen games. 313 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: So yes, if. 314 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: Your starters are going good, you're going to ride your starters, 315 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: but you also have developed partially do out of necessity 316 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: a bench that I think you know, as you said, 317 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: you you know you know who's going to come in 318 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: and play, right, I don't. I don't know that he'll 319 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: all of a sudden play only six. I just which 320 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: would mean. 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't strike me as he's that kind of least. 322 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: What that would mean Hardaway is not playing, which makes 323 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: it makes zero sense because he gives you the outset, 324 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: gives you the perimeter game. Now, he doesn't give you 325 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: as much defensively as Jones or Watson, but he's a spark. 326 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: He'll pull up. He's a confident three point shooter. So 327 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I like what he's brought to this team. 328 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: So you know, I mean CEB, I would be a 329 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: little concerned about CB just just watching him. Yeah, that's all, 330 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: just watching him play. 331 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Same So we'll sort of see what the rotations look like. 332 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: We're have Lafonds. Willis joining us to four thirty today, 333 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: my man. Yeah, looking forward to chatting with him, not 334 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: only about Nuggets but also about the NCAA tournament. Did 335 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: you hear Joe Flacco today in some of his press conference? 336 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: Did He's? Uh? 337 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: I had to chuckle absolutely in the car. 338 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: I was chuckling, like really, really. 339 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: He is such a trip. But it reminded me so 340 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: much of the stuff he was saying here in Denver. 341 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Remember when they got Drew Locke and everybody's asking the. 342 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: Whole point where I was chuckling. 343 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was like it was like he 344 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: he went on a hiking excursion like in the Grand 345 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: Canyon in the off season. He and two of his 346 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: friends and they discovered either hihwuashka or peote and it 347 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: both or one of them completely changed his overall countenance. 348 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: And so after the journey he woke up and he's like, huh, 349 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: he's just a different person. That's that When I heard 350 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: his comments, that's what I'm thinking. Okay, you've had some 351 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: sort some sort of chemical infusion of some sort legally 352 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: of course, and and now here you are your. 353 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: Lovable Joe good hyahuasca. Yeah, that's there we go. 354 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: So here was Joe Flacco talking about. 355 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: Just to set this up, keep in mind for people 356 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: maybe that you know that you just move here or whatever, 357 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: you didn't know what Joe Flacco was about. Joe Flacco 358 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: basically hid him, basically, he said in a press conference 359 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: when he was playing Bronco quarterback for the Broncos. It 360 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: was not his job to mentor other quarterbacks, younger quarterbacks basically, 361 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: and that's how he conducted I mean, his countenance, his 362 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: personality was I'm here to play and I'm not interested 363 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: in all that right now. 364 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I have unfinished business. 365 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: That's part of why I'm still here and playing and 366 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: doing all those things and not being one of those 367 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: guys to go sign somewhere. 368 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it pisses me off a little bit, but. 369 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: At the same time, like I'm I'm very happy to 370 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 5: be here. And that's and that's also why I don't 371 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: see this as the end, Like that's just not how 372 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: I'm viewing it in my mind. Like I feel like 373 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: I can help a team win, and yeah, it may 374 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 5: be in a different role here, but I do still 375 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: think I can help this team win in that role. 376 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: I had a lot of fun with Joe, and Joe's 377 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: the guy, and believe me, I wish I was a 378 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 5: guy somewhere and I think teams are dumb for not 379 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 5: having me be that guy. 380 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: But it is what it is, and I'm not going 381 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: to let me. 382 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: I'm not going to let them or it get me down. 383 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 5: I'm going to be the person I am and just 384 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: approach football the way I always. 385 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Have, So I showcase so what you can do. 386 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: You know, unless Joe goes down, you'll be playing. 387 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Does that mean does that mean? 388 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not even thinking about that, man, It is 389 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 5: what it is. I'm just going to approach my job 390 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: like a professional and and and be the best I 391 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 5: can be in my role and have fun with the 392 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 5: guys that I have in this locker room. So I'm well, 393 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 5: I just I just still feel like I can just 394 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: like what I always have. 395 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: Like listen, I'm a football player. 396 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: I want to go out there and play and I 397 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 5: want to still want to show people that I'm better 398 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: than you think I am and and all that stuff, 399 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 5: just like I always have. And like I said, I 400 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: understand that what I'm doing here is a little bit 401 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: different than that, but it doesn't mean I don't still 402 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 5: have those thoughts. 403 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: So watch your back. Joe Burrow. 404 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: No, I think everything he said was was good. 405 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: It just was some of what he said was directly 406 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: in conflict with how he acted when he was here 407 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: in Denver. He said, I'm here to be Joe's the man. 408 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: I'm here to be supportive and in the background thinking, huh, 409 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: that does not sound like the Joe Flacco. 410 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 4: I knew. What year was he here? 411 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: Eighteen? 412 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, no, nineteen, I don't know. 413 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: But the point of it, but there's some underlying stuff 414 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: in all of that. So as he's saying, hey, I'm 415 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: playing a certain role, but I still think I could 416 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: play and you know, I understand my role. But that's right, 417 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: So there's underlying. 418 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: You're forty one years old, right, it does. 419 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it really shows you the dearth of quarterback 420 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: play in the league. It shows you why teams are 421 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: willing to mortgage. I mean those comments right there, twenty nineteen. 422 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: So for a forty one year old backup quarterback, those 423 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: comments I think are a terrific illustration on and evidence 424 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: as to maybe why Daniel Jones he's got a two year, 425 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar contract, eighty eight of guaranteed and 426 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: US up to one hundred million, Because teams, if you're 427 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: even close to being that guy, if you've shown this 428 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: a glimmer of hope, like wow, this stretch of play, 429 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: these four games, this guy has been great and he 430 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: was eight and two was Jones last year in Indianapolis 431 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: and they had the leading offense, best offense in. 432 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: The league statistically. That he got hurt and their season 433 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: went to hell. And so the. 434 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: Colts are like, well, hm, we got to keep him 435 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: because somebody's going to scoop him up. So we got 436 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: to commit one hundred million dollars in two years to 437 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. I say, good for Daniel Jones, but this 438 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: is evidence as to why a deal like that had 439 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: to be made. 440 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And listen, we talked about it when 441 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: it happened, because I even said, it's like, so you 442 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: really got to do that. You really got to pay him, 443 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: and you said, yes, you have to. You absolutely have 444 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: to do that. You just you just understand it the 445 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: price price doing business. But yeah, listening to Joe today, 446 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I had the same kind of snicker, like, all right, 447 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: I hear the underlying like I should be starting in 448 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: this league. I think I should be starting this league. 449 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked a little bit about guys 450 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: like that, like you even said, yes, say' Marvin Mims. 451 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: I know it's a it's not a great comparison, but 452 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: it's the type of personality of yeah, I'm gonna take 453 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: this a certain way, and then it's gonna feel me, 454 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, like I think it should be starting right now. 455 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm forty one years old. I still got a lot 456 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: left in the tank. Did you see some of those 457 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: games I played last year in relief at a primetime 458 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: game where he went out through four touchdowns or whatever 459 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: when nuts And I'm sure he watches that film often saying, 460 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: you guys, want to see what I'm capable of? 461 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 4: I could start. 462 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, Joe's been a good player in 463 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: the league. He had one great year and it just 464 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: so happened it was the last year of his contract, 465 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: and he bet at himself with the Ravens. And the 466 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 3: Ravens of course Broncos fans remember that game. Oh yeah, 467 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: beat the Broncos here in Denver. 468 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 4: They won't. 469 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: They go on, they play in the Super Bowl against 470 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. They win that, and then Joe 471 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: Flacco is given a huge deal, rightfully so, by the 472 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. He's had a good career in one great year. 473 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying Joe Flacco's, you know, can't play, 474 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: because that. 475 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: That would not be true. I think he's a I 476 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: think he's a very good player. 477 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: He's had a he might even say he's had a 478 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: very good career, but he's had that one season that 479 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 3: was so superior that it forced the hand of the 480 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: Ravens because there was there was tremendous reluctancy by Baltimore 481 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: to go forward with Joe Flacco. In fact, had he 482 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: not had that season and the way the season ended, 483 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: I would guess that they would have gone in a 484 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: different direction. Joe Flacco would have not signed a huge 485 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: deal in Baltimore. He'd have been somewhere else. 486 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: It's remarkable, right, the way that played out. And if 487 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: the Ronco's win that game. Yeah, you're right, Reheem Moore. 488 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's all the dream, that's all. 489 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy. We're off early here on a Wednesday. 490 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Very excited to be here with you. All sorts of 491 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: fun stuff. People are asking about the JK. Dobbins comments 492 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: that he made on NFL Network. Will definitely get to 493 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: some of that. Patzer tan on an interesting gift from 494 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, get to some of that as well. And 495 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: lafon Zwell's joining us after four thirty. We'll bright back 496 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: from KWA says that it was Giannis Oscar Magic and 497 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Guy Rogers all the way back in nineteen sixty two. 498 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: So I read the stat earlier twenty three, seventeen and seventeen. 499 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: Nakole Yoki has done that three times. Every other player 500 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: in NBA history combined is four, which is just silly. 501 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just continues to do things that you know, 502 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: you just sort of push. 503 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Back and scratch your head over heavy. 504 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: And again you look at the MVP voting, he's not 505 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: even in it. I saw somewhere Michael Wilbone has him 506 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: as fifth in the MVP voting. He's going to vote 507 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: for Jalen Brown as his number one. I'm like, I mean, 508 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown is a good player, don't get me wrong. 509 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I mean, Jalen Brown has been 510 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: really important this year to the Celtics with Tatum out now. 511 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Tatum's back now, but Brown has increased his output in 512 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: just about every meaningful statistical category offensively. 513 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 4: And there were people, certainly. 514 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: Boston fans, that didn't think that could happen, That thought 515 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: he was always going to be a Robin to Batman, 516 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: and Batman was Tatum. 517 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: But I the MVP, is it. 518 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: The best player in the world, or is it the 519 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: best player on a team, a player that is having 520 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: his best year on a team. 521 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 522 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: There's no way in the world that Joki, for as 523 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: long as he plays, should come in fifth in the 524 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: MVP balloting if the actual race and those who bothford 525 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: are saying, hey, there are four better basketball players in 526 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: the world than Nicole. 527 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: Ok, you know that's not true. 528 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: This is not true. 529 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: It's not it's not true. 530 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: But he's almost and I hesitated almost say it this way, 531 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: but he's almost a victim of his own success because 532 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: he's having statistically one of the best seasons. Like last 533 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: year we averaged a triple double. He's probably gonna average 534 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: a triple double again this year. And yet it's like, well, 535 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: we've seen you do that. 536 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: Like what who else did Wilbon Wilbon had did he 537 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: have web a s G who else would be ahead 538 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: of you? 539 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 540 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, SGA. I think second, wimby third, and I 541 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: think donis fourth, correctly, I just right. 542 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: I got to give I'm not a huge Don fan. 543 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: I got to give him this this stretch of play, 544 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: but I had a joker. No, no, no, not. 545 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: Not for me, not for me. I mean absolutely not. 546 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: For me. 547 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: It feels like California. 548 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: He has been unbelievable offensively, Joker makes everybody in his 549 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: team better. 550 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 4: DONC does not does. 551 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: Not so, by the way, in ESPN has been talking 552 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: about this today a lot, the sixty five game rule, 553 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: because I guess the Players Association is pushing back they 554 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: want that taken out of this. Where do you stand 555 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: on that? Do you do you feel like I kind 556 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: of like the sixty five game rule for MVP because 557 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it feels arbitrary. I guess you could 558 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: maybe do it a little bit less than that. I 559 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: just feel like you have to have a certain standard 560 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: here of amount of games, because guys will have great 561 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: stretches of thirty forty games and you know, there's times 562 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: where Joel Embiid, for example, I don't know he did 563 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: win it, but I'm saying there's been stretches where he 564 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: looks like the most dominant player in basketball. And if 565 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: you're going to give him an MVP because he plays 566 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: half the season, well that would be silly versus a 567 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: guy that plays majority of the season. Now, Nikolay Yokas 568 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: needs to play eight of his next nine games in 569 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: order to qualify of. 570 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: The sixty five Ye he does, he does. I think 571 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: sixty five is a fair number. 572 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: I think you can miss seventeen games, yeah, Joki really 573 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: the first significant injury he's had in his career he's 574 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: sustained this year. 575 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: So he's missed, he's missed a lot of games. But yeah, 576 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 4: sixty five's good with me. 577 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: It feels it feels right. 578 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if you're gonna qualify, here's what here's what 579 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: I want to ask, in a very short, succinct way, 580 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: is Joel Embiid ever going to play again in Denver? 581 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no. 582 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: But he's not played a game against the Nuggets in Denver, 583 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: I believe since twenty nineteen. 584 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's probably right. 585 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean. 586 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: It just feels like there's always a reason that he 587 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: can't play. Now he's barely played this year at all. 588 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's you know, he's he's nursing an injury, 589 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: but it just perpetually. How unlucky do you have to 590 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: be to be nursing an injury for like seven consecutive 591 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: seasons when your team plays in Denver's very unlucky. 592 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: Unlucky, And I almost think I mean, I don't know 593 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: if he'll ever qualify for the sixty five again because 594 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like a guy that can stay on 595 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: the court. So I'm I'm almost passed because now it's 596 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: SGA versus Joker for me, like, who's gonna win? Who's 597 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: gonna be because these are the top two guys right 598 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: now as far as I'm concerned in the MVP conversation. Yeah, 599 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: me too, And again it's something against Jaylen Brown or Wimby. 600 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: I think Wimby's special. He's gonna he's gonna win MVPs 601 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: like Victor Woman. Yeah, that's gonna win MVPs in this league. 602 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: But this year it feels like it's probably a SGA 603 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: once again because of how dominant Oklahoma City was overall. Anyways, 604 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: it's sort of fascinating. I thought that was an interesting 605 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: thing that ESPN brought up. We'll have to talk about 606 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: this more on the other side. Did you were you 607 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: aware that Sean Payton handed out bats to the Broncos 608 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: players prior to the Buffalo Bills game and then oxygen 609 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: tanks prior to the Patriots game. I knew about the bats, Okay, 610 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: did you know about the oxygen tanks. 611 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: I did not. 612 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I did not either. Here's a PS two talking about 613 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: it's on the Julian ed Edeland podcast. 614 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 6: Keep the momentum going, like, keep attacking his gameing over. 615 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: He was asked about what does Sean Payton like at halftime? 616 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: That was the question, what was Sean Payton like at halftime? 617 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 6: Hit the momentum going, like, keep attacking his gaming over 618 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 6: and he just keep preaching, man, because he always used 619 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 6: to have these games where he called it bad games, 620 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 6: a game where you feel like it's gonna be ultra physical, 621 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: ultra competitive, and we really got to like finish all 622 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 6: full quarters. He named his game of bad Game. And 623 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 6: we all get bats a couple of days prior towards 624 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 6: the game, like actual baseball bats. Yeah, actual baseball bat 625 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 6: Everyone on the tam Grave bats with like the game 626 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 6: they opponent and stuff like that. So he named it 627 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: the bad Game for sure. This game, ironically, it wasn't 628 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 6: a bat. It was oxygen tanks. 629 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Oxygen because it's gonna take four quarters. 630 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 6: It's gonna take four quarters. He was like, we're gonna 631 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 6: need our oxygen tanks. They're gonna need their so it's 632 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 6: gonna be all full quarters. 633 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: Wow. 634 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so did everyone get an oxygen take? 635 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: Everyone got an oxygen tank. 636 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: He literally got everyone in oxygen. 637 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: Take, got everybody oxygen tank. I mean, I don't know 638 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: how he did it, but he did it. 639 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Man. Imagine being like the truck I ever delivering fifty 640 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: some odd oxygen tanks. 641 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: Imagine being. 642 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm guessing PK or somebody that I would think PK. 643 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: That Sean Payton summons to his office, said listen. 644 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: And I wish Nate was here because Nate. 645 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Could do a good Oh. 646 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: Sean Payton asking to bring in, however, many oxygen tanks. 647 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: And you want to make sure your job is to 648 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: fulfill whatever the wishes are of the head coach. But 649 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: just for a minute, do you pause and look at 650 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: him like a German shepherd who just heard a whistle? 651 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: And do you stay back? You mean like. 652 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: Oxygen oxygen tanks? Yes, okay, I mean off. 653 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: You go like like full size, Like yeah, yeah, that's 654 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: a that's an interesting ask. So when we come back, 655 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, is that more typical than 656 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: we realized? Because I've never heard of anything like that 657 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: that we. 658 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: Can talk about it, but that yes, coaches everywhere are 659 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: doing stuff. 660 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, Sean Payton prior to the Buffalo Bills game 661 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: bought everybody bats and engraved on each bat that the 662 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: game they were going to play, and then before the 663 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: Patriots game he got everybody the entire team. Oxygen takes ye, 664 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: And you said that maybe not specifically those things, but 665 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: that's more common. 666 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 667 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of coaches, NFL coaches 668 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: and frankly college coaches too, will have maybe maybe in 669 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: what is what is perceived to be a bigger game, 670 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: will have sort of the theme for the week. And yeah, 671 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: I mean I've I've known coaches whether it's uh, shovels 672 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: we literally literally got we. 673 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: Got shovels, got shovels. 674 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did shovels because when I can't even remember 675 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: who we were playing, but when they come to Cleveland, no, 676 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: we're going to bury burying them with these shovels. So 677 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: there's Yeah, I think I think that's a fairly common 678 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: common practice. And I think a lot of respects players. 679 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's not if it's not like hokey. I 680 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: think players kind of kind of enjoy it. I think 681 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: they do. 682 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't get any sense from him like there 683 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: was a sarcasm about it or no, this is silly 684 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: and I don't understand it. It's like, okay, all right, 685 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: goes along with a theme and you're the coach is 686 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: trying to motivate this. Yeah, I mean there's still what 687 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: do you do with the oxygen tank? 688 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: Though, I mean, yeah, the oxygen tank is interesting. 689 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: There is still in the NFL today. 690 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: It's it's it's changed dramatically, I think for the better 691 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: with respect to taking care of players. And they've tried 692 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: to legislate and we talked about this a lot of 693 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: a lot of things out of the game that that 694 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: was just really unnecessary violence. I think in some cases 695 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: they've gone too far. I get why they want to 696 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: keep quarterbacks healthy because you can't find those guys, but 697 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean some of the stuff they're calling for illegal 698 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: hits on the quarterback now are just really ridiculous. That said, 699 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 3: I applaud the league for taking the initiative because they 700 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: were forced to to try to legislate that stuff. But 701 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: they're still even in football today. Certainly back when I 702 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: played and before me, without question, there there there is 703 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: a how would I there is a gladiator spirit to it. 704 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: You're preparing, You prepare for one game a week, you 705 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: get your body right, you know uh, and then you're 706 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: going to don the armor and you're going to battle. 707 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: And so I think a lot of coaches sort of 708 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: rely on on that mentality that that their team has. 709 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: The young guys have that, and sometimes it needs to 710 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: be nurtured and then brought to a crescendo at the 711 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: end of the week. 712 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: And then I think what makes the league so great? 713 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: After that and you put all that into that battle, 714 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: then you got to turn around and do it again, 715 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 3: start over, and do it again. 716 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: It's extremely unique. And then you you know, you factor 717 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: in now like fast forward and we have games on Wednesday, Thursday, 718 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Friday coming up to start the season, and you know fight. 719 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're starting the Seasonday. I can't tell you how 720 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: much I hate that. 721 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Seattle is going to home open the season on 722 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday night. 723 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if I owned a team and we 724 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 3: were getting that kind of are those kind of numbers 725 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: on TV? 726 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: I guess? 727 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean I guess, But from a former player standpoint 728 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: and even a fans standpoint, I don't like the Wednesday. 729 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: I can live with the third, Thursday, Friday, night, to 730 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: me is high school football, and it it. I don't 731 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: like the fact the league has sort of taken that 732 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: night over. They don't do it all the time, but 733 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: they're starting to do it a little bit more right, 734 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 3: And again it comes down to television revenue and them 735 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: trying to grow the game. So I understand it. I 736 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: just don't like it. 737 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm more or less than the day. And 738 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: then again you get into December, and then it took 739 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Saturday too. Yeah, right, because you got playoff games. You 740 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: have big games that you want to be able to feature. 741 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: So I understand you want to give Seattle again perspective. 742 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: I understand you want to give Seattle the opener because 743 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: they're the champion. Sure, and then you have the Melbourne game. 744 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: That's the Thursday night game. So that's the forty nine 745 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: ers and the Rams. They're going to play that game 746 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: Thursday night. 747 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 4: Fay. 748 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: Now, I didn't see that. Thennounced it today, so they're okay, 749 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: I missed that. Yeah, so Wednesday night's gonna be Seattle. 750 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: We don't know who they're playing yet, but they're going 751 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: to open the season. Then you got the Melbourne game 752 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then the Brazil game. They haven't. They 753 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: haven't said that's the Friday opener. 754 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: But last year, what I hope the field is better? 755 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: No kidding, right, remember Jordan Love getting hurt on the 756 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: field and those guys slipping and sliding and oh man, 757 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: that was a mess. And you're thinking, like you're opening 758 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: the season and if Jordan Love would have torn his 759 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: acl and been done for the year on an opener, man, 760 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean, then the Packers ended up being a good 761 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: team and they ended up being fined. Yeah, but still 762 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: that is something, all right? Five six six nights zeros 763 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: a Kawae commasperate hill text line. We'll get some JK. 764 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Dobbins sound when we come back.