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Speaker 3: We do we have an interview maybe with Chris Finch

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Speaker 3: last week that we can replay for like seven minutes

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Speaker 3: as we await for Kevin O'Connell. As we awake Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out there and take care of some business. So, uh, Nordo,

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Speaker 3: why don't uh, why don't you riff for about two minutes?

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Speaker 3: It's two and a half minutes if you don't mind

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Speaker 3: including double B in the conversation and giving a little

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Speaker 3: pop to packer.

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Speaker 1: Review. Yeah, review that podcast.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's an option, but that's not meaning we are

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Speaker 3: limited only to that option. But nevertheless, it's an option.

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Speaker 3: He's he's a family member and they're they're they're happy

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Speaker 3: about their podcast.

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Speaker 1: So I'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, it's between that are ripping the wild? Which one

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Speaker 2: one you like to go to?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: The Wild art tonight Brett what do you think.

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Speaker 2: This is a tough matchup and if they're going to

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Speaker 2: turn things around again the the deserved to Wino meter

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Speaker 2: and they're playing well and they're getting bad breaks. It

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Speaker 2: only goes for so long, and it's just against a

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Speaker 2: really bad Sharks team I think only had one win

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Speaker 2: wanted an overtime, I'd still be like, the performance is

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Speaker 2: not great. This Jets team is good. I'm I'm very concerned.

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Speaker 2: My panic level for the season is still moderate. On

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Speaker 2: my panic level short term is very extreme. Well here,

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Speaker 2: here's what I'm curious about.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, it's it's frustrating that we can just

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Speaker 6: switch sports and switch teams, even switch cities, and in

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Speaker 6: some ways we're kind of talking about the same thing

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Speaker 6: where my favorite squad, the Minnesota Vikings Brett I actually

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Speaker 6: don't have an interest at this point in pumping packer review,

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Speaker 6: preview or any of that. It's available to freetradipp of

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Speaker 6: course it is. Your quarterback was unbelievable the other night,

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Speaker 6: and that's where we're going to leave it. But whether

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's a roster situation, quarterback quandary that that

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Speaker 6: we're enduring at this stage and happy to see JJ back,

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Speaker 6: and maybe our expectations over the course of the season

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Speaker 6: now have to change given what we've seen through three

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Speaker 6: and four. Similarly, from from the hockey standpoint, right out

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Speaker 6: of the gates, you're missing Stem for a couple of months.

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Speaker 6: Dukie uh not dukie Zuki for a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 6: And and we have we have a situation now where

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Speaker 6: we're trying to we re up gus Bus and gust

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Speaker 6: will give you a shutout, maybe an unopening day, but

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Speaker 6: then they'll offer up for the next night. Volstett raising

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Speaker 6: that kid on the fly. What's been in front of them?

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Speaker 6: It's like you you have a known commodity like a

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Speaker 6: brock Faber, but as he truly been the brock Faber

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Speaker 6: that you know. Maybe not about ze William and what

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Speaker 6: his growth arc is supposed to be. Carill, Caprice off

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Speaker 6: maybe with a turnover or two in some bad spots

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Speaker 6: the other day, and you mentioned the awful Sharks team

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Speaker 6: in town, and it's just it's it's kind of interesting Brett,

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Speaker 6: but in some ways it's it's it's certain people that

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Speaker 6: the new kids still finding their way through things post time.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's interesting as we watch it.

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Speaker 6: But yes, definitely needing, definitely needing two points tonight against

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Speaker 6: those Winnipeg Jets. Is as now we've all been waiting.

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Speaker 6: The ripping has been completed. Kevin O'Connell, What up?

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Speaker 3: And boom, x'es and o's with Kevin O'Connell is in

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Speaker 4: Hi, good morning, guys. How are you good now?

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Speaker 1: Are things doing all right?

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Speaker 4: Getting after it? Excellent?

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Speaker 3: Excellent Lions this weekend and Kevin O'Connell, x'es and o's

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Speaker 3: picture time Ready here we go three two.

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Speaker 1: One two three, jeez.

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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Speaker 3: Uh yep, the Lions this weekend noon kf A n

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Speaker 5: I've been a fan of his for a long time

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Speaker 3: Finchy, the the X's and o's with Minnesota Vikings head

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Speaker 3: coach Kevin O'Connell as the topics today that include, but

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Speaker 3: are not limited to, jumbo packages, jailing Christian Darisaw, beefeaters,

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Speaker 3: and quarterback Carson Wentz, who has hit the injured reserve scenario.

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Speaker 3: He'll be out for the season. We have talkbacks each

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Speaker 7: Now, Hey, coach O'Connell, this is Brandon from North Dakota.

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Speaker 7: We're in obvious Carson Wentz territory here. I was at

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Speaker 3: Thank you, and Carson. I believe for this year, maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah he did.

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Speaker 5: So throughout the journey with him, you know, I was

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Speaker 5: Always that one on one dialogue with the player, and

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Speaker 5: big man and a very powerful man. But the way

440
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 5: he's attacked his rehab throughout the entire process has been

441
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 5: an inspiration to a lot of guys around here. He's been,

442
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 5: you know, kind of somebody that everybody's kind of looked

443
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 5: looked at as you know, a tip of the cap

444
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 5: to him throughout and he's absolutely crushed the timeline that

445
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 5: they had for him medically, and and the doctors have

446
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 5: really been impressed with what CD has been able to

447
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 5: do and and and fully clear him to play. Now

448
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 5: you're just in a mode where there is you know, obviously,

449
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 5: as he works himself back within kind of that timeline,

450
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 5: it's going to be a process for him, and every

451
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: snap we can have him out there as a positive,

452
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 5: he continues to grow and get stronger and feel more

453
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 5: and more comfortable. And I think that process will only

454
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 5: be enhanced here with some of the work he's obviously

455
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 5: got and he's been a huge impact when he's been

456
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 5: in there, and ultimately we hope now eight straight weekends,

457
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 5: we should have a Sunday game, full weeks of preparation,

458
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: CD on a real, ironclad, crystal clear plan to have

459
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 5: him prepared and ready to go for as much of

460
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: that football as we can have him for because he's

461
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 5: obviously a franchise left tackle.

462
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: In the Chargers game and something that I think is

463
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: starting to take place league wide a little more than

464
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: maybe even last year. Here's what I'm talking about. They

465
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: got this player, Scott Matt Locke. Okay, this forty four

466
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: he was their fallback yep, in front of Kamani Vidal.

467
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: Kamani Vidal and he played thirty eight plays the three

468
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 3: games up to your game, played forty one plays in

469
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 3: your game. Okay, So here's what I'm getting at is

470
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 3: starting with the Steelers in Dublin and Spencer Anderson and

471
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: that monster tied in Darnell Washington through I think Fred

472
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: Johnson came in for a pass play that was a

473
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: touchdown for the Eagles, and then this the jumbo package

474
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: is how do you get offenses out of these jumbo packages?

475
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, it's been one of those

476
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 5: things where when you look at what we do defensively,

477
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 5: and especially now that there's a little bit more inventory

478
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 5: of plays and seeing over the course of Flow's time

479
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: here that they can create a lot of problems.

480
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 4: We're seeing a lot more.

481
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: First it was, you know, you just saw much much

482
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 5: more twelve personnel, two receivers, two tight ends and running

483
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 5: back in the game. And now it's only being enhanced

484
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 5: even more by you know, being in those bigger groupings,

485
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 5: but adding another offensive lineman in place of that second

486
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 5: tight end, but essentially trying to mitigate as much problems

487
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: and risk that our defense can present if you don't

488
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 5: have enough to block at the point of attack, or

489
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: you are trying to be physical in the run game.

490
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: It may shrink your playbook elsewhere, but you are.

491
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 5: Anytime you play against the Brian Flor's defense, you already

492
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 5: have to have somewhat of a shrunken down play book

493
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 5: because of all the exposure to risk that you do.

494
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 5: Show up to the stadium knowing is out there, especially

495
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 5: when our group's at full capacity and you have the

496
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 5: ability to, you know, turn those guys loose with the

497
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 5: full gamut of a menu. But yeah, it's clear if

498
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 5: people are trying to get bigger against us, they're trying

499
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 5: to cover up more gaps. They're trying to make sure

500
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 5: that they have all the edges accounted for and try

501
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 5: to have as many positive plays without having negatives as possible,

502
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 5: because that's really when our defense can be at their best,

503
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 5: when they're forcing those negatives getting you into third and

504
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: long situations. Really, the Eagle game kind of was an

505
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: outlier as far as their ability to convert. Yeah, on

506
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 5: some of those third and twelve, third and fifteens, that

507
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 5: were some backbreaking conversions when historically our defense has gotten

508
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 5: off the field on those plays, and you got to

509
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 5: credit them, But then we also have to take a

510
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 5: look at it as a coaching staff and figure out

511
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 5: how do we get people in more you know, second

512
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 5: and long into third and longs and then ultimately how

513
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 5: do we get off the field when those downs come up,

514
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 5: because they're critical, huge plays in the game.

515
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: With young quarterbacks or newquarterbacks to a team which could

516
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: even be you here in twenty twenty two. Cousins have

517
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: been here, been in the league, but it's new. But

518
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: let's just go with young quarterbacks. How many generally do

519
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: you need to see before you kind of have a

520
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: feel for what you have? Is it like twenty ish?

521
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: And here's why I asked, because Josh Allen one of

522
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: the best quarterbacks in the NFL all right in twenty

523
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: eighteen when he was a rookie ten touchdowns, twelve interceptions,

524
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 3: fifty two percent on the completions. Okay, you look at

525
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: that then, and you look at Josh Allen now or

526
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: really from like his twenty second start on well, he's

527
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 3: become one of the very best in the NFL. So

528
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: do you have a number or is it impossible to

529
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: have a number, Like I can't put a blanket on

530
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: what I think about this situation until I see how

531
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: many games.

532
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's hard to you know, it's hard

533
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: anyway to put a number on that. I think you

534
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 5: have to go with the real what are you seeing

535
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 5: with your eyes? Are what's being absorbed? What are the

536
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: where's the improvement, where's the growth? Where's the consistency of

537
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: some of the things that have been coached and some

538
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: of the things that have been identified as things that

539
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: need to happen to see that ascension kind of take place.

540
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 5: It gets even more difficult pa to put a number

541
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: on that, considering an entire.

542
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: Year on the grass was lost.

543
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: So now you're in a situation where you're trying to

544
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 5: you know, if you're drawing up the ideal way of

545
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: bringing along a quarterback, losing a year on the grasses

546
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: is not ideal. But at the same time, you know

547
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 5: the type of worker and the type of you know

548
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 5: off the field traits and the physical traits JJ has,

549
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 5: you want to continue to pour into those and try

550
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 5: to accelerate that wherever possible.

551
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: And that's when ultimately, whether it's.

552
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: Playing in a game where you didn't practice a whole

553
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: lot because of some circumstances or you you know, have

554
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 5: another injury and you lose time. All of that makes

555
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 5: it even more difficult to project when that number is,

556
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: when that time comes where you truly know exactly what

557
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: you have and until then, you've you've got to have

558
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 5: the opportunities to continue to give the runway for a

559
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 5: guy to show that growth. And we're still very early

560
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: on in that process. Maybe not along the timeline because

561
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 5: of some of the circumstances, but as far as actual

562
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 5: game action, JJ's going to start his third game, you know,

563
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: against the Detroit Lions coming up this Sunday.

564
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: Tied in Ben Simms. You always like Ben Simms undrafted

565
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: from Baylor. I remember when he got here, and you

566
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: know you weren't super happy when he got plucked up

567
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: the practice squad, but other teams get to do that.

568
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: But you always liked him, right, Yeah.

569
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: Ben's another one of those guys that Brian Angelico or

570
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 5: Tenan's coach really became fond of, and you know, right

571
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: in the mix to maybe get drafted, and you don't.

572
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: You don't have a chance to draft him, so you

573
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: find a way any way possible to try to get

574
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: him to still become a Minnesota Viking, and as hard

575
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: of a decision as we've had roster wise, you know,

576
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: Ben being probably that fifty third fifty three point five

577
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: player that year, you're just hoping that you maybe get

578
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: him back to continue that ascension on the practice squad

579
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 5: and then ultimately with the rules now and the elevations,

580
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: you really do have more than just your fifty three

581
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: guys on the roster to go ahead and form a

582
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 5: game day forty eight or you know, depending on how

583
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: many guys you have up. So very much we're kind

584
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 5: of waiting for the day we could maybe get him

585
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: back here, and it did finally come and he arrived

586
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: here late last night. He's in here today getting back acclimated,

587
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: but very excited to have Ben Simms back back of board.

588
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Yep, quickly.

589
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: Just two to close, one on the Lions, one on

590
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: Jail and Naylor Jaalen Naylor, despite his stats not being

591
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: anything huge and due to circumstances in my opinion, mostly

592
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: out of his control. I think, is he having a

593
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: sneaky really good season here?

594
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: Yes?

595
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's yeah, so like why.

596
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's you know, there's just so many things that

597
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 5: he can do pa that help our offense go. And

598
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: it doesn't always equal, you know, a bunch of catches

599
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 5: and a bunch of targets and things like that. Uh,

600
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: but when his number has been called, he's been huge.

601
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 5: He's had you know, you think back to the first

602
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: game that that big catch towards the end of the

603
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: half to get us into world record field goal range

604
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: for three points there that inevitably ended up being the

605
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: three points we needed to win the game, third down

606
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: conversions versus Cincinnati tight coverage, playing through contact. His ability

607
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 5: to function you know, in the box as a as

608
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: a receiver and eleven personnel and be physical and do

609
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: some do some jobs. And then ultimately both him and

610
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: Adam with where we've been at, you know, at the

611
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: tackle position for for a good chunk of our season,

612
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: using those guys, as you know, in many ways as

613
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: that second tight end type body so that you can

614
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 5: try to get some help on the edges while still

615
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 5: allow TJ. Hockinson to you know, occasionally run a route

616
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: free from having to do some dirty work at the

617
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 5: start of the snap.

618
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Right.

619
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: It's all part of kind of that team philosophy, guys

620
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: doing things for the greater good of the of the group.

621
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you want to make sure

622
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 5: those guys and especially Jalen get their opportunity to impact

623
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 5: the game because he's proven time and time again he

624
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: can do.

625
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: That with With Ben Johnson gone to Chicago Lions or next,

626
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: do they still run tricks? I mean, do we still

627
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: see Pena sewel on jetsweeps?

628
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: They still they still do a lot of those things.

629
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: J T. Barrett actually is in Chicago with Ben.

630
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: I know j T had a lot to do with

631
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: their their trick, their trick play arsenal that they had

632
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: there with Ben in Detroit. But yeah, it's all still

633
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: there these players, It's part of their DNA. You gotta

634
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 5: be ready for double passes, reverses, you gotta be ready

635
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: for them to try to get unique ways to get

636
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 5: maybe Jamison Williams down the field as the explosive player

637
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 5: he is obviously we know Gibbs and Montgomery and then

638
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: amen Ra you know, as you know, as as as

639
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 5: consistent and impactful as a complete receiver as that are

640
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: there really is in the NFL. He can do it

641
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: inside outside, you know, man's own So they really don't

642
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 5: they have the type of weaponry that they they don't

643
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: need to dip into that that arsenal very often, but

644
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: they do clearly still have the capability, and with Jared

645
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: playing as high at a higher level as he is

646
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: right now, he's been wildly consistent and just continues to

647
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 5: propel that offense to be very very difficult to play against.

648
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: Going to be a challenge for.

649
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Us and Dan Skipper with the jumbo package you just

650
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: came back lastly for your defense, I'm just going to

651
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: go numbers to have sixty one, ninety three, ninety seven,

652
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: forty three, fifty eight with fifty one, I'll just stop

653
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: it right there. Ye Van Ginkel if and or Wenny returns,

654
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: hopefully it is this weekend. With that group right there,

655
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: what moving forward through the final ten do you need

656
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: to see from Javon Hargrave.

657
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is just the consistency

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Speaker 5: factor of the balance between technique fundamentals within the scheme required.

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Speaker 5: It's not just about individually winning your matchup and trying

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Speaker 5: to make a play. In many ways, our guys want

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Speaker 5: so badly to make that play that some times guys

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Speaker 5: are maybe straining outside maybe their initial responsibilities to maybe

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Speaker 5: make a play here there. It's all credited to the

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Speaker 5: deep down desire to try to do things to help

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Speaker 5: our team win. So that's an extreme positive and we've

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Speaker 5: just got to play. Our defense is at their best

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Speaker 5: in my opinion and really in Flows opinion, when we

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Speaker 5: have eleven guys all in unison, totally connected, playing as

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Speaker 5: one group, where the plays come to everybody within our defense.

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Speaker 5: As Pa we saw a year ago with the turnovers

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Speaker 5: that were forced the negative plays. What we've got to

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Speaker 5: do is maintain the discipline of that through each and

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Speaker 5: every snap and play with the physicality and the disruption

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Speaker 5: that has kind of been a hallmark of Flows defense

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Speaker 5: since he got here.

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Speaker 4: We just needed a little bit more consistently.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, getting Van van Ginkel back will be a huge

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Speaker 5: just because he is able to do so many jobs

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Speaker 5: within the defense that allows other guys to really be

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Speaker 5: in their comfort zone of and the things that they

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Speaker 5: were either brought here for or they've consistently shown throughout

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Speaker 5: their careers. So I think it's a lot of puzzle pieces,

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Speaker 5: but he's obviously a very big part of it, and

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Speaker 5: hope to have him back as soon as possible.

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Speaker 3: Great seeing you, Yeah, thanks Pa, Thanks for the time

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. That's

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Speaker 3: x's and o's into the Lions game back after this

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Speaker 3: before we.

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Speaker 2: Go the fan in two minutes of junk, Chuck, want

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Speaker 1: All right, give it your nick.

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Speaker 6: Listening to the interview, and I'm just thinking to myself,

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Speaker 6: I wonder just I mean, from week two on PA,

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Speaker 6: every single week, here's what we got with Carson.

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Speaker 1: Who's the NFL's.

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Speaker 6: Version of the ebug, the emergency third QB, yep, who's

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Speaker 6: gonna play?

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Speaker 3: What's up with JJ's ankle? Wire head coaches compared to

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Speaker 3: Genghis Khan.

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Speaker 4: Et cetera.

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Speaker 6: And so I'm just curious, like, is he into this week?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's the kiddies that creates a level of

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Speaker 6: stress all in its own.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said that, because that's like with

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Speaker 3: the page turning, what's on the next page? Wentz amputation,

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Speaker 3: just the whole thing with the conversation. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: the Lions are next by the way.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's a place that has been a massive problem

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Speaker 6: for this organization to win games in.

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Speaker 1: For what is it?

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Speaker 6: I mean twenty twenty one maybe the last time we

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Speaker 6: won it or twenty twenty Oh, I guess the Lions

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Speaker 6: in at Ford Field?

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Speaker 3: I mean we Wow, kJ Osborne walked off on him

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Speaker 3: in twenty two.

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Speaker 1: That was at your home though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, geez, wait last year, No, I should your announcers

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Speaker 3: should have this top of the head. Feels like twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two we swept them.

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Speaker 4: Geez.

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Speaker 3: How big of an issue with twenty twenty one was

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Speaker 3: was the cam Dancelar raw Amen Ross Saint Brown back

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Speaker 3: left of the end one first National Football League touchdown?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So they the last time the Vikings won there it

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Speaker 6: was indeed twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Though we've we've won the twenties.

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Speaker 6: Last time we've lost four consecutive at Ford Field.

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Speaker 1: So but that's what. But so the kiddies in the

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Speaker 1: mix all of that.

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Speaker 6: But I'm just trying to think, like, is he is

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Speaker 6: he stressed about JJ take two? Is he confident in

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Speaker 6: JJ Take two? Or is there just an element again,

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Speaker 6: kiddy's on the horizon.

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Speaker 3: You just saw all of his facial expressions when the

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Speaker 3: ven camera comes on me or both of us are

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Speaker 3: in it, you know. And and again nine to noon

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Speaker 3: is not the We looked into his eyes and he's

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Speaker 3: putting Van ginkel on five sacks in one game. But

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Speaker 3: we we see it weekly, man, because he's so open

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Speaker 3: and honest with us. He wears his emotions and his

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Speaker 3: feelings on his face. And you saw it a couple

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Speaker 3: of times today. It's you know, I thought, after the

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes of chatting about Carson Wentz, that's half the bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're not even supposed to have thirty We're supposed to

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Speaker 3: have twenty two, but we always take thirty five until

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Speaker 3: we're to old.

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Speaker 1: We can't. That's correct. We're KFA and raised. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: when I segued and I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Well, what do you do now, I mean, do you

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Speaker 3: just go with the kids, Just go with the kids,

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Speaker 3: move forward with them. I thought that would get a smile. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: didn't get a smile. I'm like, so, yeah, so what's next?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Skelton in the field house. Hey, I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: player coaches. That used to be a thing. Josh McCown there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: God's cartoon character couldn't crack him.

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Speaker 6: I just think and we've joked about it kind of

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Speaker 6: off air with some people as well. How you know,

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Speaker 6: whether it's travel, it was the dual international bit, Like

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Speaker 6: we were talking seven games, it's felt like a freaking season,

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Speaker 6: and I'm just curious, like the head coach's mentality into

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Speaker 6: this game, division rival, place you haven't won in nearly

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Speaker 6: half a decade, and it's just this goulash of confidence. Okay,

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Speaker 6: let's get JJ back out there. Indeed, we were rolling

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Speaker 6: with the kids. Do we want to have to just

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Speaker 6: roll with the kids? That's probably part of the conversation,

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Speaker 6: the combination of stress, maybe some relief because after this week,

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Speaker 6: let's get a good one out of number nine and

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Speaker 6: we don't have to have any controversial related conversation and

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Speaker 6: commentary and questions in the podium. Like I just I

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Speaker 6: just need some consistency and some stability in my life.

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Speaker 1: And that's all he needs, That's all all of them want.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's it's just a again, it's it's just

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Speaker 6: a bad gulash and you're it's only seven into Well,

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Speaker 6: that's the thing. And so now I'm trying to read

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Speaker 6: into when he said getting Van ginkelback will be well huge, Yes,

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Speaker 6: does that mean will as in ford Field on Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Coach, I gotta believe it does.

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Speaker 4: Watch.

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Speaker 3: I mean a will It wasn't. It wasn't the if

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Speaker 3: we it was when we know we, it's not we.

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Speaker 3: It's not we might it was we will.

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Speaker 6: Because think about this, So the questions he's dealing with

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Speaker 6: the optics of Carson on the field and you know,

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Speaker 6: digging into when exactly should certain other qbs have been

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Speaker 6: putting the you know Max in particular obviously Thursday night

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Speaker 6: he's dealt with that. Hey, Van Ginkel hasn't played in

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Speaker 6: a long time. He's not on ir what's up with that?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 1: The left tackle returns? What is it? Week three? He's

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Speaker 1: on pitch counts.

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Speaker 6: Then he's a full speed ahead after the bye, but

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Speaker 6: then we pull him back to nine snaps on a

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Speaker 6: Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: What's up with that? I mean?

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Speaker 6: The goulash of emotion for this coach is incredible right now.

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