1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Six one seven two six, sixty eight sixty eight is 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: the number. Okay, let's go right back to Deborah in Boston. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: She is on fire. She says that when she was younger, 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: in her twenties, she was slightly overweight, but she and 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: she did what the medical establishment told her to do. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: She had a lot of salad, a lot of low 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: fat or non fat food, exercised a lot, and then 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: she started to develop issues with seizures epilepsy. And then 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: she started to eat fat. She started to eat eggs, beef, 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: She went against the grain, and all of a sudden, 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: not only did the seizure stop, but Deborah began to 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: lose weight and now she is fit as a fiddle. Deborah, 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: did I sum up your position accurately. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Perfectly? Jef? 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Now, Debrah, what is it about the low fat, non 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: fat diet that doesn't work? Is it because it's all 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: with sugars or it stimulates sugar or insulin production in 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: your body, so you think you're actually losing weight, but 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: in fact it's causing you to put on even more weight. 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: Well, it keeps you hungry, You're starving, right, I mean, 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: what's more satisfying than a big bowl of beef stew 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: or a big four egg omelet with cheese and onions 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: and peppers and mushrooms. 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Right, that's an excellent point. 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: It's turning off the hunger. And I've lived it. I 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 3: know what it feels like to be starving all the time, 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: So you know the problems. There's something wrong with Americans, 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, or people in general. After I had 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: this success and then it became so easy. I eat 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: normal foods, everything that our grandparents would recognize as food. 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: I eat eggs and meat, vegetables, butter, cheese, whatever. Guess what, Jeff, 33 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: I even eat ice cream. I'm not suffering. But I 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: went to a nutrition program like fifteen years ago to 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: study different dietary theories, and I was so excited, and 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to share this information with friends and family. 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: And they knew what happened to me. They knew that 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: I got off my pharmaceuticals. And people are so defensive 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: and angry. It was almost like trying to tell an alcoholic, like, hey, 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: stop drinking. And I don't know what's wrong because we 41 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: are so fat and we're arrogant as Americans. 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: I think. 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: It's like we have an emotional or mental problem that 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: we don't want to face. And here's the thing, Jeff. 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: If you're fat and you're on a ton of meds, 46 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: you're setting yourself up. You're dependent. You know, we talk 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: about freedom and individual liberty and all that. I hate 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: to break it to you, You're going to be dependent 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: on the state. 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: You're dead on. I mean, I'm just thinking of myself 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: as you're talking. Really, I mean, I'm being serious. I 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: mean I'm on MET. I mean, I don't want to 53 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: give you my whole medical history, but I'm on insulin, 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm on met foreman, I'm on blood pressure medication, cholesterol medication. 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: And you're completely right. I'm thinking, like, yeah, of course 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm dependent. You know, I'm basically a slave to pharmaceuticals 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: and you know, and eventually the government. You're completely right. No, 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I think you're dead on. And I think part of 59 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: what's happening is and I really want to credit RFK Junior. 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I think he's been a real trailblazer in this. Americans 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: are addicted to processed foods. I think there's no question 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: and I'm including myself in this and over processed foods, 63 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: and I think that's what's driving I'm not saying it's 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: all of it, but that's what's driving so much of 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: our obesity epidemic because you're right. Look, you know you 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: talked about Italy. I can only speak of Croatia. I 67 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: was there for you know, a week. They eat, I mean, man, 68 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: do they eat, but they're all thin. And so what 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: they told me was they go, it's not the calories. 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: They go, you Americans are counting calories. They're like, it's 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: not the calories. We eat more than enough calories. You 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: have to eat whole foods and it's you know, organic 73 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: fresh food. It's eggs, not processed, but real cheese, butter, beef, vegetables, fruits. 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: They go, you can eat, just eat, and they go, 75 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: you're never gonna be hungry. Don't look at the calories. 76 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, fat apparently is good. They go, 77 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: it's good, and they go, you're gonna see you lay 78 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: off all of the cereals and the macaroni and cheese. 79 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: And the pasta is good, but it's a certain type 80 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: of pasta. That's why the Italians they eat the good 81 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: kind of pasta. You know, they don't eat the overprocessed 82 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: pasta that we have here, which they sell for a 83 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: buck or a buck fifty. That's just sugar. Really, what 84 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: you're just digesting is sugar, so you know. So they're like, look, 85 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: eat you know, breakfast, lunch, dinner, you know, and you 86 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: eat well, and it's delicious food, it's fresh food. It 87 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: tastes really good, and you don't put on weight. If anything, 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: you keep losing weight your body. It's like it kickstarts 89 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: your metabolism, and your metabolism just goes faster and faster 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: and faster, so you have more energy and the weight 91 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: just keeps coming off or it stays off, you know. 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: I on the other hand, well, you know, I mean 93 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: I eat too much processed food and you can feel it. 94 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: It just it sticks in that belly. It just it 95 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: won't go. 96 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: Man. 97 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: And there is you do get cravings. There is slightly. 98 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if addictive is too strong 99 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: a word, but you get powerful cravings. There's no question. 100 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: Your body almost gets hooked on it. It wants it 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: wants more of it. I think it's the sugar. But anyway, 102 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is, I think we do have an obesity problem. 103 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: I agree, And look, I think you know, our FK 104 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Junior is right. In the end, we've got to eat better, 105 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: We've got to eat fresher, we've got to eat like 106 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: our grandparents or great grandparents. Eight and a lot of 107 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: our obesity issues are going to go away. Six one 108 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Couple lines 109 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: are open if you want to jump on. I want 110 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: to read this text because we're talking obviously about immigration, 111 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: legal immigration, not just illegal immigration, and what kind of 112 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: criteria we want in legal immigrants to our country. And 113 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: that's from you know, as little as a tourist or 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: you know, students, or people on a work visa, or 115 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: people you know, we'll come here to you know, get 116 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: a green cart and maybe eventually become citizens. And I 117 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: want to read this this it's a very interesting text. 118 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: By the way, you can text the cooner Man seven 119 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero. This 120 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: is from six one seven Jeff. We need an embargo 121 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: on all immigration for a period of five years, simply 122 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: to sort out who is actually in the country, and 123 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: in theory at least to allow assimilation to resume. In 124 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: other words, I don't want to put words in six 125 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: one seven's mouth, but I think what six one seven 126 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: is saying is instead of you know, which is fine, 127 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: we want to have you know, financial criteria, economic criteria, 128 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: health criteria. Maybe it's time for us to have a 129 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: five year immigration moratorium. For five years, we don't just 130 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: seal the border and make sure no illegals come in, 131 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: no immigration perioderod legal or illegal. That will give us, 132 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, for five years, that will give us time 133 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: to deport all of the illegals out of our country. 134 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: And then furthermore to figure out how many immigrants we 135 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: actually have because they're fudging the numbers when it comes 136 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: to the census, and then ask ourselves and have a 137 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: true proper national debate, how many immigrants do we want? 138 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: How much is good, how much is healthy? How much 139 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: is too much? And should we restore the melting pot 140 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and assimilation instead of multiculturalism, And furthermore, what kind of 141 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: immigrants if we're going to have legal immigrants, what kind 142 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: of immigrants do we want? And what I mean by 143 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: that is do we just want to continue to bring 144 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: in low skill, low educated immigrants because we live now 145 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: in a very different society than sixty years ago, Never 146 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: mind one hundred or one hundred and fifty years ago. 147 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: That then it was an industrial age, so we needed 148 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: workers in the factories. So if they had low skills 149 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: or not much education, who cares as long as they're 150 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: willing to work and work hard. We now live in 151 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: a very technologically modern society. We need high skills. It's 152 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: a high tech economy we already have. You know. You know, 153 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, automation is doing more 154 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: and more of the physical labor that low skill workers 155 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: used to do. So do we really want to continue 156 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: to import I'm talking legal immigration, forget the illegal, just legal. 157 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: Do we want to continue to import people who have 158 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: low skills, low education, manual laborers when already our working 159 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: class is not getting paid what they need to be 160 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: paid because their wages are being undercut by foreigners who 161 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: are coming in, whether it's illegal or legal. And increasingly 162 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: these jobs are being automated. Look you look at many 163 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: fast food restaurants now it's increasingly automation. Amazon. I know 164 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: they're firing a lot of white collar workers because of AI, 165 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: but also even you know the people on the ground 166 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: who are packaging and stuff because of automation. Now, what 167 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying is we have to have a debate what 168 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: kind of immigrants do we need? What kind of immigrants 169 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: do we want? And I think the biggest debate, and 170 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,479 Speaker 1: this is what they've hijacked now for the last thirty years. 171 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Does everybody have a right to come to America? Are 172 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: we a country or are we an international charity? That's 173 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 1: the question. Now do we have a right to decide 174 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: the numbers that come in and what kind of immigrants 175 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: and what is in the national interest of the United States? Now? Personally, 176 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: and I'm speaking now as a Christian, I do think 177 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: we should have a certain number two hundred and fifty thousand, 178 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand. We can debate the numbers, 179 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: but I would allow refugees to come in a certain quota, 180 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: people who are genuinely persecuted, who are genuinely being discriminated against, 181 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: or victims of genocide or mass murder or human rights abuses. Yes, 182 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: I would say let's have a refugee program, But I'm 183 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: not talking millions and millions and millions, and we don't 184 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: vet them. They have to be vetted. We have to 185 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: know they're genuine refugees, and even then that they're willing 186 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: to contribute to America. So I do believe there is 187 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: some humanitarianism we can have in our immigration policy. But 188 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: that's a couple hundred thousand a year. It's not you know, five, ten, 189 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty million. And I think overall immigration should 190 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: be determined by the national interest, period, full stop. And 191 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: overall we want immigrants that are here to be American, 192 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: to assimilate, to be able to speak English. I don't 193 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: care if it's with an accent. My mother spoke with 194 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: an accent. People tease me, they say I have an accent. Whatever. 195 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: My point is, they speak English, and they're here to 196 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: be Americans, and they're here to give, to produce, and 197 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: to contribute. And that's not what we have now. What 198 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: we have now is the exact opposite. We have multiculturalism, 199 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: where they're encouraged to keep their cultures from where they 200 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: come from, to not assimilate, to speak their native language 201 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is, Spanish, Arabic, I means whatever, 202 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: and to hate this country. The moment they land, they're 203 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: already being told how racist we are and that we 204 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: have to accommodate ourselves to them, and that in many 205 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: ways they go to the front of the line. You know, 206 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: they're the quote unquote dreamers. They're smarter than us, they're 207 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: better than us, they're more humanitarian than us, they're better 208 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: people than us. That's what our elites keep telling us 209 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: that without these immigrants were nothing. Well, I disagree to me. 210 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: It's the opposite. Without America, these immigrants are nothing because 211 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: if they stay in their third world countries, believe me, 212 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: they don't have much of a future there, no matter 213 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: how talented or smart, or ambitious or hard working they 214 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: may be. And so to me, the goal of our 215 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: immigration should be to strengthen America and make us a better, 216 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: stronger country. We're not there to run a humanitarian salvation 217 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: army operation for the world. Because I got news for everybody, 218 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: and this is reality. If you import the world, you 219 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: will bankrupt America. You import the third world, you become 220 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the third world. And that is the globalist project at 221 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: its heart. It's the great replacement, and it's happening right 222 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: in front of our eyes. Agree, disagree, Phil in Missouri. 223 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Phil, and welcome. 224 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: Hey Jeff, thanks for taking my call. 225 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: My pleasure. 226 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: Phil. 227 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: It feels like MAGA is dead or has been hijacked. 228 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: I mean you know, Trump says he wants to double 229 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: the amount of Chinese visa student visas coming in and 230 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: you know, you those student visas they come stapled with 231 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: a work visa. And now he comes out with this 232 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: silly thing about weight requirements. I mean, we just had 233 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: a fight last week and found out forty two million 234 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Americans are on food stamps. You know, how about a 235 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: program where we retrain those people and put them into 236 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: the jobs. You know, why do we have to bring 237 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: somebody else in, you know, to replace the American And 238 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: then anytime you criticize it, now, oh god, you get 239 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: you know, ridiculed and you know, shun out by the 240 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: Republicans like it's a litmus test. Now you have to 241 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: be pro Ukraine war, pro Israel otherwise you're out. So 242 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what do you say about that. 243 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. I, by the way, Phil, 244 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm against Trump's visa Chinese visa policies, his Chinese student 245 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: visa policy. He wants to bring in six hundred thousand 246 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Chinese students on these student visas. He says it's good 247 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: for the university system, it's good for the call system 248 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: that our universities need. This constant infusion of foreign students, 249 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: and that the Chinese are willing to pay for it, 250 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: and they're willing to pay top dollar. I would keep 251 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these Chinese. In fact, all of these 252 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Chinese students out, I think they have many of them 253 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: are ties to the CCP. I think we're just training 254 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: them to go back eventually to destroy us. And I 255 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: agree with you. What about all you know, these American 256 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: students that are coming out of college without a job. 257 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Why are we bringing in people? You're right to train 258 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: them to replace us. So I completely agree with you 259 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: on that one thousand percent. And look, I think overall 260 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: he's got to focus more at home. I don't care 261 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: about what happens between Russia and Ukraine, Israel one its 262 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: war against Hamas and Iran. Six one seven two six 263 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: six sixty eight sixty eight is the number mark in Lowell. 264 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for a whole Mark and as always welcome. 265 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: Hi, Hey, Jeff, I have a comment about the immigration thing. 266 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: I think Trump is trolling right now with all that 267 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: garbage that he's saying, even if it's a dealing about 268 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: fat people or no fat people or whatever. I think 269 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: a solution for all this immigration stuff I don't know 270 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: about refugees yet, but for all other people automatically, anyone 271 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: who receives a visa or work permitter or whatever they get, 272 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: there's a two year moratorium on any government benefits. And 273 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 4: what happens with that is all these people who are 274 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: bringing their families in to have children and all that. 275 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's not part of the government, They're still 276 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: part of the group that they are part of wherever 277 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: governments that come from or you know, country, and also 278 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: all their illnesses and everything are covered. They have to 279 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: take care of it. If they can't take care of it, 280 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: then they're out or they get to know there's no 281 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: ambi amb you know, there's no chance for error because 282 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: there's all gray area. And if you have gray area, 283 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: then the only people who benefited from it is the 284 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 4: immigration lawyers because they're going to put everything into the 285 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: court system saying this shouldn't have happened. 286 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Well, you know what I find Dan, I look, I 287 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: hear you, and this is what I just find incredible. 288 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, we I don't mean you, I don't mean 289 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: this show. When I say Americans are we Americans? I'm 290 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: talking in general and especially our leaders. We think that 291 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: somehow we're the only country in the world that has 292 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: people come in and go to our colleges and universities. No, 293 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I hate the burst every you know, our 294 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: leadership's bubble. But you know, can Canadian universities get a 295 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of foreigners, Australian universities a lot of foreigners. British 296 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: universities a ton of foreigners, German, you know, French universities. 297 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: So what do they do. Do they just allow anybody 298 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: to come in? 299 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: No? 300 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: Do they allow them to come in and suddenly, you know, 301 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: get on the doll let's say they graduate right away. 302 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Do they allow Let's say they you know, 303 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: get married or bring a spouse with them, and the 304 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: spouse is pregnant, You think they give them automatic citizenship 305 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: or the child automatic citizenship because the child happens to 306 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: be born. Say they're from China and they go study 307 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: in England, Gay Oxford or Cambridge, Gay world renowned schools 308 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: or the London School of Economics, and you know, pop 309 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: out comes the baby while they're in Britain. You think 310 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: it's so automatic British citizenship for the child. No, like 311 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: we're the only ones that do this, and so that's 312 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: why people come, and that's why people take advantage of us. Look, 313 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: in fact, it's an open secret. And I'm not just 314 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: talking about colleges and universities. You go down to Florida, 315 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: go to anybody who works in a hospital in Florida, 316 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: and they'll tell you whether it's Russian oligarchs now increasingly 317 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: by the way, Ukrainian oligarchs, whether it's the Saudis, whether 318 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: it's people from Katar, these golf sheiks. They will come 319 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: in and bring their wives or girlfriends eight months pregnant. 320 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean they're you know, they're they're about to pop. 321 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: They land in Miami or wherever, Tampa Bay or Jacksonville, 322 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and they're, oh, yeah, I'm here to 323 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: go to Disney World. I love to go to Disney. 324 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: And what they really do is they're here to put 325 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: them up in a hospital and have the baby in 326 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: Florida on American soil. Bang Okay, it's birth tourism anchor 327 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: baby boom. The child has citizenship by extension, then the 328 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: child can sponsor the parents. Many of them literally land, 329 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: have the baby, get the American citizenship for their kids, 330 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: and then they fly back. They fly back to Russia 331 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: or Ukraine, or they go fly back to Saudi Arabia 332 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: or China. And then later when the kid is like ten, twelve, 333 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: fourteen years old, they go, okay, now we send you 334 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: back to America and you sponsor us and that's it. 335 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: We have citizenship as well through the child, and by 336 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: the way, all the welfare benefits that come with it. 337 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: Never mind what the illegals do. I'm talking. This is 338 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: more birth tourism. This is they actually you know, they 339 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: pay for flights, they pay for hotels, some of them 340 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: even pay for the cost of the hospital. But they 341 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: just want that anchor baby. Ay, what wants that anchor baby. 342 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Once that thing pops out of the you know, pops 343 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: out of the belly, bang American citizen on the spot, 344 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: they go back to their home countries and they'll take 345 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: advantage of us for the rest of our lives. The 346 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: illegals just cross the border, pop out comes the baby. 347 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: The baby's an American citizen. You have to give now 348 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: government benefits to the baby and to the parents by extension. 349 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: And of course we don't divide families, so once the 350 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: baby comes out, the parents stay no matter what. Now 351 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: they're making fools of us. No other country in the 352 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: world does this, and it's for a reason. A. It's 353 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: making a mockery of our sovereignty. We essentially have no borders, 354 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: and it will bankrupt our welfare system. You keep doing this, 355 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: It's just it's a question of mathematics. You know, whether 356 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: you have a heart, don't have a heart. You're compassionate, compassionate, 357 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: whether it's a you know, Christian not Christian. No country 358 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: can function like this, and they resort to the fourteenth Amendment. 359 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: That's the one they always rolle about, the fourteenth Amendment. 360 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: Look at the fourteenth Amendment. The fourteenth Amendment. People did 361 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: not fight the Civil War for illegals to pour into 362 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: our country and have anchor babies. On what planet are 363 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: they living on? It's insane. The fourteenth Amendment was there 364 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: to abolish the thirteenth Amendment of ballished slavery. But the 365 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment was to give citizenship to the former freed slaves. Hello. 366 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: That's why Trump is challenging this birthright citizenship and taking 367 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: it all the way to the Supreme Court. And he's 368 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: got every right to do so because he says it's 369 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: destroying us. I mean we're basically defenseless. All you've got 370 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: to do, I'm telling you, all you've got to do 371 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: is get here and have a baby, and you're in 372 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: the clear. And there was a recent poll, I mean, Mark, 373 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: look it up. Don't take my word for it. Two 374 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: billion people say they want to come to America. Two billion, 375 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: two billion. You open the gates, they're gonna come. Now. 376 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: No country is rich enough. We can't even absorb twenty million, 377 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: never mind two hundred million, never mind half a billion, 378 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: forget about a billion or two billion. So what we're 379 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: talking about now is a recipe for national suicide. And 380 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: the last time I checked, the Constitution is not a 381 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: suicide pact. Mark, final word to. 382 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: You agree with all that part of it. And this 383 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: is a good time to start to clean up the 384 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: and the mess starts with you know, there's no such 385 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 4: thing as a If a baby is born here, it's 386 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: under your citizenship, but not our citizenship. And if if 387 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 4: of visa is given out, it's not given up in 388 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: the gray area. It's given out because of the rules 389 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: that we already have in place, and the people they 390 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 4: are only one added thing. No government subsidies on any visa, 391 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: and the visa should be the limited time only anyhow, 392 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: so that you know these people have to come back 393 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: to get another visa. 394 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: Bingo, bingo, Mark, thank you very much for that call. 395 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Excellent call. Let me ask all of you just to 396 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: widen up the discussion. Let me throw another log on 397 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: the fire. Do you think we should have say, I'm 398 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: just making a number up, a five year embargo moratorium? 399 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: However you want to call it on all immigration, not 400 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: just illegal but legal immigration as well. Is it time 401 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: for us for a period of time to close our 402 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: borders so a we can get our house in order, 403 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: we can deport all of these illegals and then have 404 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: a national discussion and a national debate about what our 405 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: immigration policy should be going into the future. I'm just curious, 406 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: would you support something like this if Trump said, you 407 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: know what, no more immigrants for five years, illegal or legal. 408 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: We're just going to shut the borders down. We've got 409 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: too many people already, too many illegals and just too 410 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: many non citizens. And until we can sort all this out, 411 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bring in another person. Agree, disagree, 412 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: Dan hold On, Oh I just okay. We've got Grace 413 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: on the line, all right, Dan in New Hampshire. Hang on, 414 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace Vuoto. We 415 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: finally got her full disclosure. She's my better half, she 416 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: is my wife. Grace. How are you? 417 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 6: I am very well, Jess. Great to be with you. 418 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so Grace. I want to ask you. It's 419 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: causing a lot of controversy. President Trump his team, through 420 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: the State Department, has now put out a more guidelines, 421 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: tougher criteria, not illegal immigration, but legal immigration. And if 422 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: you want to get a visa to come into the 423 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: United States, whether it's a travel visa, tourist visa, student visa, 424 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: work visa, and you know, I was on one for 425 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: years and then we got a green card. So even 426 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: for work visas and to get permanent residency, you have 427 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: to show that you're financially able to take care of yourself. 428 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: You're not going to be a burden to the taxpayers 429 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: or to the state. But they also now want to 430 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: weed out people who have cancer, who have respiratory diseases, 431 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: people who may have severe mental illness. In other words, 432 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: people who are going to cost a lot of money 433 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: because they're going to be sick, they're going to have 434 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: to be treated hundreds of thousands of dollars and we 435 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: just can't afford it. And one of the criteria is obese, 436 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: fat people, overly obese people, that they will eventually develop 437 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: heart issues type two diabetes, and that this should be 438 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: a factor in refusing entry into the United States. 439 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 6: What say you, Jeff, You know, I think it's a 440 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 6: terrible idea. And I'll tell you why. Consider for a moment, 441 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 6: who that we actually know, based on this criteria of 442 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 6: obesity would be denied entry. I mean, some of the 443 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: hardest working people I know that were immigrants were you know, 444 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: they would fall through the cracks. Think of somebody like 445 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 6: my father who immigrated to Canada. He was a very 446 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 6: stocky guy, such a proud, hard working This guy never 447 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 6: never stopped working, even in his spare time, and everything 448 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 6: that he contributed to society far outweighed anything that he 449 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 6: took away from it. And think about somebody else that 450 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 6: we know that died during COVID, Nicola or Landscaper. He 451 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 6: was also an Italian immigrant into the United States. A 452 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 6: very stocky guy. This was one of the best workers 453 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: I've ever seen. This person would be denied. Think about 454 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 6: my very best friend that I met in DC Angelica, 455 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 6: and she has risen to the highest ranks of her 456 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: profession as now the vice president of an arms company. 457 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: And she was stocky. And then think about Jeff Cooner 458 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 6: who entered. 459 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Well, she's a little more than stocky, but let that go. 460 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: Let that go, and. 461 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 6: Think of Jeff Cooner who entered, who you're actually slimmer 462 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 6: now than when you entered, and I think you're a 463 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 6: fantastic contributor to the society. But based on this criteria, 464 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: all of these incredible workers would be denied entry. So 465 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 6: this doesn't make sense to me. And also another thing 466 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 6: to consider, Jeth is that weight is a fluid category. 467 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: So you might give entry to somebody who's skinny when 468 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 6: they come in, but within five years they're overweight, or 469 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 6: somebody who is overweight when they come in, but within 470 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 6: five years they're skinny. It's just a fluid category. So 471 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 6: I don't think it's a category that is substantial enough 472 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 6: as a criteria. So I think what we're doing is 473 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 6: we're now gyrating from one extreme to the other extreme. 474 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 6: So one extreme was the Democrats, who are complete idiots, 475 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 6: opened up on borders with no criteria whatsoever. And also 476 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 6: we have a society that gives an abundance of benefits, right, 477 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 6: just give everybody benefits and let everybody in. So this 478 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 6: is the problem we have, and now we're going to 479 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 6: go to the opposite extreme and create these categories that 480 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 6: don't make sense. Look, the only thing we have to 481 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 6: consider when we give somebody a visa, of course, their 482 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 6: criminal background. You know, obviously are they criminals or not? 483 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 6: And we just have to ask the key question, what 484 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 6: does our economy need? And does this immigrant have the 485 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 6: education and the skills to match what our economy needs, 486 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 6: you know, once you verify that they're not criminals. And 487 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 6: I think we've got to keep it simple. Otherwise you're 488 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 6: empowering bureaucrats to make decisions about what a person can 489 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 6: overall contribute based on a category that's not going to 490 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 6: give you that information. And I just want to make 491 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 6: one more point, Jeff, which is think about the people 492 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 6: that are really overweight. To say that our American citizens 493 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 6: that have made a huge contribution, right, think of someone 494 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: like Rush Limbaugh, Orson Wells, Babe Ruth Aresa, Franklin, George Foreman, 495 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: Marlon Brando, Elvis who then became very very overweight. I'll 496 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 6: forget oprah winfree. We got like big singers nowadays. 497 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Oprah I mean Prah. I don't know if that bolsters 498 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: your argument. But no, no, I hear what you're saying. 499 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. 500 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 6: Wait, it's just it's just not a valid criteria to 501 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 6: determine the value that somebody is going to bring to 502 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 6: the workforce. 503 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: What about Okay, leave a side obesity and wait, yes, 504 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: if they have cancer, if they're you know, if they 505 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: have mental illness, cazophrenia, bipolar disorder, if they have respiratory issues, 506 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: if you know, whatever, there's all kinds of health issues. 507 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: In other words, should we be allowing people to come 508 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: into our country that unless they can afford to pay 509 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: for their own health care, it's inevitable. We are going 510 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: to have to take care of these people and they're 511 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: going to cost it's going to cost us a lot 512 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: of money. Should health be consideration? I think it should. 513 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: I don't think we should be, you know, bringing in 514 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: people with leukemia. I'm not trying to see a heartless 515 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: but you know, if you got a brain tumor, I'm like, yeah, 516 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: you're going to be in our hospitals very soon. Well, 517 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're not a charity for the world, but 518 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, what say you. 519 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 6: Well, look, I think it is already part of the 520 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 6: screening that takes place. They have to make sure that 521 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 6: incoming immigrants have proper vaccination, and I do think like 522 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: a a general health screening is a good idea. But 523 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 6: one of the problems with trying to make this like 524 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 6: a hard and fast criteria is that health two just fluctuates, 525 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 6: and it's like you can't really predict the future. So 526 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: somebody unless obviously it's a terminal illness, right, like something 527 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 6: we know is terminal, but sometimes people are ill for 528 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 6: a while. I mean, you just had a caller on 529 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 6: that was ill for a while and then she turned 530 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 6: her health around her writes a versus someone that comes 531 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 6: in health he suddenly becomes very, very sick. So I 532 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 6: just think right now we have to just keep the 533 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 6: immigrant process much much simpler, strict but simple. That's the 534 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 6: way to go. And look, we've done this before. The 535 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 6: immigrants that we brought in for several decades were phenomenal 536 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: and we had a great system until the Democrats messed 537 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 6: it up. I don't think we need to reinvent the 538 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 6: wheel on this one. 539 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Grace, what do you think about a moratorium? In general? 540 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: We have too many immigrants already illegal and legal, many 541 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: non citizens, many of them on food stamps, many of 542 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: them public housing, many of them ebt and on welfare. 543 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: It is literally bankrupting and bleeding our country dry. It 544 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: is breaking the back of our welfare system. Is it 545 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: time to impose a moratorium an embargo on all immigration? 546 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: Not forever, not even for twenty years or fifteen years 547 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: or ten years, but maybe for years so that way 548 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: we can deport all the illegals and be start to 549 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: ask ourselves as a country, do we want to have 550 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: the melting pot? Do we want a sponsor and push assimilation? 551 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: Do we what kind of an immigration policy do we want? 552 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: Because it seems to me I think right now fifteen 553 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: percent of the entire American population is foreign born. Never 554 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: in American history we've had so many foreign born people 555 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: in our country, and many of them are not learning English, 556 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: many of them are not assimilating. And all you've got 557 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: to do is look at what happened in New York 558 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: City with Mamdanni. The foreign born population put Mum Donnie 559 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: over the top because they brought in so many? Do 560 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: we now have too many immigrants legal or illegal? And 561 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: is it time for a moratorium so we can straighten 562 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: all this out and devise an immigration policy that puts 563 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: America and Americans first. 564 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 6: What say, you definitely need to pump the brakes right 565 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 6: now because we have to deal. 566 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 5: With the Democrats who have created a lawless society. That's 567 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 5: really what they've created with this wide open border, and 568 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 5: they've let just about anybody in. And then also it's 569 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 5: give benefits to just about everybody. So these are the 570 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 5: two huge problems that have to be addressed before we 571 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 5: can even really have a properly functioning immigration system. But 572 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 5: the problem we face is yes, we'd like to do. 573 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 5: Let's say, in an ideal world, right, we would tell 574 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 5: President Trump just stop every single immigrant from coming in period, 575 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 5: whether legal or illegal. One of the problems is that 576 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 5: we have some huge categories of labor that we die 577 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 5: your need for, like doctors, for example, we have like 578 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 5: a shortage of doctors in this country. 579 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 6: So what do we do with that problem? This is 580 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 6: so overall I would say yes, but you have to 581 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 6: look very carefully at which industries would we also be 582 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 6: blocking that we're in dire need of grace. 583 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: We've got a minute left, So let me just ask 584 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: you this. Have we lost the melting pot? Have we 585 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: lost the sense in America of assimilation, of Americanization as 586 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: it used to be called, that if you're a forget illegal, 587 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: if you're a legal immigrant, that you really have to 588 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: learn English, you have to understand the Constitution, the Bill 589 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: of Rights, and truly become an American citizen, not just 590 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: in name only, but truly culturally. You know in your 591 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: life personally that you come here to become an American. 592 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: Have we lost that? 593 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 6: We have completely lost that. And you've got to consider 594 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 6: that we're not only not teaching immigrants what it is 595 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 6: to be an American, we're not teaching our own citizens 596 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 6: what American history is, what the glories of the Constitution, 597 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 6: the Bill of Rights, what our revolution really really stands for, 598 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 6: it's historic impact, how original it was in its time. 599 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 6: We're not teaching the Great Books, we're not teaching the 600 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 6: value of Western civilization. So we're seeing this rot. Never 601 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 6: mind for the incoming immigrants, who of course they won't 602 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 6: they won't know this. If our own citizens don't even 603 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 6: know this, and this is a deliberate plan by the 604 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 6: left to take away our history so that we lose 605 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 6: our uniqueness. Our history informs us as to what makes 606 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 6: us unique in this world, and it is decades that 607 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 6: they've been working hard. 608 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Hard to destroy our identity. You're right, our national identity 609 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: are a national culture, our national unity what binds us 610 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: as a people and as a country.