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Speaker 3: Our number two. Also appearing in Our Number two in

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Speaker 3: his normal time slot, Charlie Goldsmith will join us at

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Speaker 3: one o'clock this afternoon, and unfortunately, Austin, we have some

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Speaker 3: more to talk about with the Cincinnati Reads as Nickelodolo

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Speaker 3: left his rehab start yesterday with the Daytona Tortugas because

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Speaker 4: The tortugas. Do you know what tortuga is Spanish for tortilla? No,

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Speaker 4: that's tortilla is Spanish for tortilla. You're close, though, Yeah, tortoise.

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Speaker 4: The date the Daytona turtles pretty much. Yeah, the tortoises,

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Speaker 4: although I'm sure somebody would say there's a big difference

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Speaker 4: It's a badass.

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Speaker 3: All we know is that Nickelodolo left his rehab start

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Speaker 3: with a blister issue, that same blister issue that landed

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Speaker 3: Niclodola on the injured list to start the season. And Moyle, boy,

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Speaker 3: do I have so many questions about that?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't really understand it. And well, obviously we'll have

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Speaker 4: a chance to talk to Charlie about it. You and

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Speaker 4: I were just talking before the show, like if this

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Speaker 4: And it was it again precautionary? Does he become somebody

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Speaker 4: different ways that you can work around this? And I

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Speaker 4: think Terry Francona is going to be talking prior to

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Speaker 4: So hopefully Charlie will have some answers for us at

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Speaker 4: the top of the hour. But there's way more questions

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Speaker 4: and answers at this point when it comes to Ladulta.

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Speaker 3: no chance that he takes the mound to throw and

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Speaker 3: does that mean going forward? We got a lot to

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Speaker 4: Thrown side sessions, he's thrown a bullpen like he's he's

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Speaker 4: been on this routine ramping.

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Speaker 2: Up to this, so like, yeah, what was it?

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Speaker 4: Throwing a slider? Was it particularly hot in Daytona? And

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Speaker 4: why is this three years now where the Reds can't

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Speaker 4: come up with the right way to treat this thing? Yep,

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Speaker 4: I just, I just I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 4: It's sure as hell frustrating for Nickelodolo, definitely frustrating for

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Speaker 2: I don't know where we go from here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, like we said, there's just far more

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Speaker 2: As it pertains to to Nick Loodolo.

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Speaker 3: It, well, that's like you know, hungry dogs, or if

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Speaker 3: Okay, anything else around Major League Baseball going into the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Connor Griffin today, I think they're going to try

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Speaker 3: I saw as well, the Pirates got the deal done

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a bunch of money.

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Speaker 3: Nine years, one hundred and forty million dollars for Connor Griffin.

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Speaker 3: That is the largest contract ever for a player with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so tip your cap. I think I got Jerry

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Speaker 4: Have that demand when the ducks, when the ducks quack

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Speaker 2: When the ducks quack, I'm gonna save that. That's a

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Speaker 3: Also, speaking of Major League Baseball news, did you hear

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Speaker 3: what happened with Kansas City Royals catcher Carter Jensen?

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Speaker 2: I did? How about this?

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Speaker 3: He was scratched from the Royal starting lineup for yesterday's

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Speaker 4: What's really funny about this is they did one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what.

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Speaker 3: Age is where he surfaced? And what age is it

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Speaker 8: For me?

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't think I don't think it's ever an excuse.

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Speaker 2: How many like is there a threshold, like can you

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Speaker 3: And like the crazy thing is like Vinnie Pascatino, the

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Speaker 4: I think Vinnie Pascantino handled it pretty well and handled

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Speaker 3: Oh, which is kind of cool. They did lose the game,

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Speaker 3: Do you blame Carter Jensen?

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Speaker 4: You know, I watched almost that whole game, and it

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Some disappointing news coming just days in the National Basketball

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Speaker 3: Association after we talked about Luca's six hundred point month

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Speaker 3: Luca leaves with a hamstring injury after last night's loss

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Speaker 3: could not have gone worse for the Lakers verse with

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Speaker 3: did you see Anthony Edwards the other night didn't start

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Speaker 3: I appreciate Anthony Edwards's honesty, just missed the start of

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Speaker 1: From the court to the cage, the Diamond to the dome.

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Speaker 1: He brings the heat. Moeger today at three pm on

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: So here's burning and here's Bruce at a high play

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Speaker 8: Shame.

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Speaker 6: Bruce explodes and first this into the grass and straightaway

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Speaker 8: He is being five by his team base. They bet

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Speaker 6: They're approaching the vund football bedders are coming out and

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Speaker 2: What a time that was. Happy Birthday, Jay Bruce.

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Speaker 4: I was there that night, born this day, nineteen eighty seven, Bruce.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget that night. Thirty nine years old today,

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Speaker 3: When he left the game Austin, he had thrown two

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Speaker 3: Now, Nicolodolo has a good fastball, but in today's baseball,

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Speaker 4: So it is the home opener for the Texas Rangers

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Speaker 4: think it's important Ellie day La Cruz, you know, hit

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Speaker 4: another home run right handed over the week or the

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Speaker 4: So I think that's something to keep an eye out on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for Texas, not a ton of success in their

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Speaker 3: lineup against Brady Singer. No one in the Texas lineup

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Speaker 3: outside of their catcher today Danny Jansen has more than

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Speaker 3: one hit off of Brady Singer since in the times

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Speaker 3: that they face them. What do you make of the

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Speaker 3: start today for Brady Singer? Because you know this was

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Speaker 3: a player talked about a lot in the off season

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Speaker 3: about do you move on from Brady Singer? What value

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Speaker 3: does he have here with the Cincinnati Reds. He pitched

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Speaker 3: against the Boston Red Sox. He only lasted four innings,

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Speaker 3: spread out five hits and three on runs while walking too.

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Speaker 3: What do you need to see today from Brady's Singer

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Speaker 3: for the Reds.

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Speaker 4: I need him to eat up some innings because I

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Speaker 4: don't want to see the bullpen at all.

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Speaker 2: If I can't help it.

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Speaker 4: I would love for Brady's singer to do what Sandy

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Speaker 4: Alcintara did last year. Yeah, that's asking a lot, I know,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, it's just be pitch efficient, don't walk guys,

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Speaker 4: and trust your defense behind you. And you know, the

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Speaker 4: last time that Brady faced the Rangers, I remember, I

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Speaker 4: think that was the game the Reds won, like fourteen

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Speaker 4: to three around this time last year. It was his

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Speaker 4: first game as a Red and he was awesome in

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Speaker 4: that game. I think he ended up going seven innings,

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Speaker 4: struck out maybe seven or eight guys. So just be

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Speaker 4: pitch efficient, don't get yourself into trouble, eat up some innings. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and like, don't be afraid to pitch the contact.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing with Singer.

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Speaker 4: He's never been like this overpowering, strikeout twelve guys type

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Speaker 4: of dude. He's not afraid to pitch to contact in

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Speaker 4: that I think bodes well for this team.

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Speaker 3: Some other Major League Baseball games happening this afternoon and

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Speaker 3: this evening. You mentioned the home dog strategy. It'll be

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Speaker 3: on display a lot today. The National is a home

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Speaker 3: dog against the Dodgers. Tigers have their opener against the

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Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Cardinals, Yankees and Marlins, both teams five and

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Speaker 3: one going at it. How about this for an early

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Speaker 3: surprise to the season. Austin Padres go to Boston today.

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Speaker 3: Padres are two and four. Red Sox have not won

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Speaker 3: a game since the opening game of the season. Red

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Speaker 3: Sox are one and five on the year. Sonny Gray

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Speaker 3: takes the mound for the Boston Red Sox this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: White Sox a home dog against the Blue Jays. What

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Speaker 3: about the Cleveland Guardians? How about the Guardians start of

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Speaker 3: the season four against the Mariners, three against the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: all on the road, and the Guardians come home today

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Speaker 3: to open up against the Cubs At four and three.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty strong start for the Guardians, who are

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Speaker 3: slight home dog this afternoon. Rocky's clearly a home dog

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Speaker 3: with Michael Lorenzen on the mound today. You mentioned the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Pirates a home dog against the Royals. The h

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Speaker 3: Angels a home dog against the Seattle Mariners. What about

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Speaker 3: to start for Mike Trout this year? Positive signs for

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Speaker 3: Mike Trout. Baseball's just better if Mike Trout's good. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: the Angels aren't going to be very good this year

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Speaker 3: at all, and the Giants are a home dog against

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Speaker 3: the Mets. Giants have turned it around a little bit

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Speaker 3: as well. At three and four. That is your Major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball slate for this afternoon. Let's take a break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll open the phone lines up

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Speaker 2: Hey Google, you got promoted.

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Speaker 8: You'll do anything to get everything. Son.

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Speaker 4: We have a bit of a developing situation. Oh you know,

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Speaker 4: we've talked extensively at least yesterday about the Reds new

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Speaker 4: City Connect uniforms. Of course, well it's been announced I

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Speaker 4: guess sort of by the Reds that it's a City

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Speaker 4: Connect series. So it's City Connect one point oh, which

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Speaker 4: is the black all black uniforms that they have worn

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Speaker 4: for the last few years. Those are going to be

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Speaker 4: worn on Friday home games as they always are, all right,

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Speaker 4: but they say that City Connect two point oh will

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Speaker 4: be worn for Saturday home games. Really, and that of

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Speaker 4: course being announced on Thursday next week. The unveiling of

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Speaker 4: the new city connect uniforms for the Red.

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Speaker 3: Leg So we're talking multiple city connects. Yes, okay, that

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Speaker 3: is a bit of a development.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if other teams are doing that. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if other Major League teams are keeping the

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Speaker 4: first version of their city connects and adding a second one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Now, there are folks out there that appreciate a little

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Speaker 3: bit of nostalgia that like what the original brings to

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Speaker 3: the table. If you had your say and you were offered,

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Speaker 3: or maybe someone around the Reds is listening and thinks,

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Speaker 3: you know what, Tony and Austin this time around, they

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Speaker 3: deserve a city connect too. If that were the case,

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Speaker 3: do you like the red or would you like the

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Speaker 3: nostalgia with the all black?

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm happy to be. I don't really like

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Speaker 2: the black ones that much.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think if as long as the leak is true,

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Speaker 3: I think those red ones are sharp and the pinstripe

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Speaker 3: with it. I'm sold. I'm absolutely sold. Let's grab a

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Speaker 3: couple phone calls here, well, our number one. It's important

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Speaker 3: on Fridays because once our number two gets here with

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Speaker 3: Charlie and talkbacks and Tommy g and Bob Manjeen and

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Speaker 3: Mo Wagger later from the final four, things can start

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Speaker 3: to move pretty quickly, so it's important to get a

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Speaker 3: couple of phone calls here on a Friday and hour

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Speaker 3: number one. Let's start with our friend John. How are

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Speaker 3: you John?

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Speaker 12: Happy Friday?

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Speaker 2: Fellas, how are you happy Friday? John?

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Speaker 13: And happy Easter or Passover if you celebrate either, really

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Speaker 13: enjoy it on Sunday and we'll chat next week of course,

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Speaker 13: But just a couple of things I.

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Speaker 5: Want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: And John, happy, Happy opening day there in Boston.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, people are already angry. It doesn't take much to

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Speaker 13: make Redspox fans angry. Are you talking about firing Alex Cora?

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Speaker 5: They hate ownership. They just they don't score runs.

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Speaker 13: And my entire life, guys, and I'm sixty two, the

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Speaker 13: Red Sox always scored runs. They didn't always have great pitching,

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Speaker 13: but they always had a lot of offensive firepower. They

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Speaker 13: may not have a guy who hits twenty five zero

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Speaker 13: months this year unless woman Anthony steps it up a bit,

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Speaker 13: so they're not the classical Red Sox team that scores

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Speaker 13: a lot of runs. I wanted to jump in and

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Speaker 13: talk a little bit about Kyle Duggart because I missed

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Speaker 13: that yesterday. As far as Dougger, when he was released

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Speaker 13: last year by the Patriots, I didn't think he'd be

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Speaker 13: a good fit with the Bengals, But then after watching

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Speaker 13: Geno Stone last year, I think anyone would be a

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Speaker 13: good fit with the Bengals in the safety room because

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Speaker 13: Kyle Bugger will do two things that Geno Stone won't do.

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Speaker 13: He will kick people, He's not afraid to do that, and.

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Speaker 5: He is not going to make business decisions.

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Speaker 12: He's the anti Geno Stone.

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Speaker 13: So you put him with Brian Cook and maybe that

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Speaker 13: Caleb Downs, that's a pretty good safety room. Because I

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Speaker 13: think it was James Rapine last year who reported that

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Speaker 13: the Bengals gave up eighteen hundred guys and seventeen touchdowns

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Speaker 13: to tight ends.

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Speaker 3: And there was a point yesterday too where I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people just jumped and said, Okay, if

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Speaker 3: Kyle Dugger is joining the Bengals alongside Brian Cook, well,

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Speaker 3: then Caleb Downs is off the board. I hope that's

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Speaker 3: not how the Bengals play it. I hope if the

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Speaker 3: Bengals get there at number ten and Caleb Downs is there.

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Speaker 3: I hope adding Kyle Dugger would not deter them from

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Speaker 3: taking Caleb Downs at number ten.

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Speaker 13: But if you want to use an eight man front, he's

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Speaker 13: good at that.

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Speaker 5: He's good going.

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Speaker 13: Forward, can rush the passer with him.

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Speaker 5: Yep, he's a playmaker.

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Speaker 2: He's Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean he had that I

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Speaker 13: think in twenty twenty two or in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 13: whichever game it was. But yeah, he's he's a solid player.

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Speaker 13: Another thing, professional guy, serious, He's gonna come to work

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Speaker 13: every day. This is important in him. So I think

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Speaker 13: it's a good move. But again, we have to look

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Speaker 13: at what happens in the draft, and I'll throw one

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Speaker 13: safety that might be intriguing that's gonna go probably in

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Speaker 13: the third or fourth round. Aj Hawley, who's from LSU.

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Speaker 9: He's kind of like.

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Speaker 13: Dugger though sixty two fifteen, really good in zone, but

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Speaker 13: might struggle when you ask him to cover man a

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Speaker 13: man deep, so he may.

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Speaker 5: Be off the board.

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Speaker 13: In the player I love is Jacob Rodriguez talking about

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Speaker 13: a guy who maybe he is in all about trades,

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Speaker 13: but he's all about production and winning six one two

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Speaker 13: thirty undersize linebacker. But if you remember, thirty years ago

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Speaker 13: some guy named Zach Thomas did okay for himself, went

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Speaker 13: to the Hall of Fame. Not saying that Jacob Rodriguez

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Speaker 13: is gonna do that, but off the field stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 13: his wife, em Up is a Blackhawks helicopter pilot as

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Speaker 13: Tony and Austin. You know this, the quarterbacks of this

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Speaker 13: minus guys on the field. He was recruited as a quarterback.

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Speaker 13: So he's got to be pretty good, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's the type of player that I think of

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Speaker 3: what the Bengals that they've missed on because they get

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Speaker 3: so caught up at times, I feel like in measurables

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Speaker 3: and testing and not what they do on the film.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: To me, I don't care what Jacob Rodriguez runs in

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Speaker 3: his forty I care how quickly he can identify, run

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Speaker 3: past and fill a hole. I care about what he

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Speaker 3: can do in space to make a tackle. He just

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Speaker 3: passes the eye test on film when you watch him.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to see what he runs because I

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Speaker 3: think he can make up with that with his mind

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Speaker 3: and his instincts ahead of time as well.

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Speaker 13: Exactly so that what Sjamar Stewart last year is kind

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Speaker 13: of like the flip side yep of Jacob Rodriguez. I

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Speaker 13: mean he and his one quarterback pressure which came in

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Speaker 13: training camp against the franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 5: That's not a good thing.

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Speaker 13: Before I go, Fellas, I just want to maybe make

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Speaker 13: one comment on the Final four. I've got this sneaking

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Speaker 13: suspicion Illinois is gonna win the thing. Okay, Arizona, Yeah,

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Speaker 13: Arizona and Michigan. Obviously, everyone feels whoever wins that game

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Speaker 13: is gonna win the national championship. But I've seen this

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Speaker 13: a lot where the two best teams meet in the

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Speaker 13: semis and then when one of them gets to the finals,

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Speaker 13: they might be a bit spent. This is not a

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Speaker 13: great Connecticut team, but looking at won five national championships

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Speaker 13: in less than thirty years, Illinois shows up to the

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Speaker 13: final four well once every two decades. I mean, the

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Speaker 13: greatest player in the history is Kendall gill so he

647
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Speaker 13: was a really good player. But I mean it's not

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Speaker 13: like North Carolina or Duke and I think it would

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Speaker 13: kind of be a good match for Indiana winning the

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Speaker 13: national championship in football. If Illinois wins the NCAA basketball

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Speaker 13: tournam because they don't really have a great history either.

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Speaker 13: Would be kind of an interesting thing that the big

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Speaker 13: thing is they look like a European professional.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Those players.

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Speaker 3: You talk about the stage of the Final four, they've

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Speaker 3: played on big stages already. The Eastern European players that

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Speaker 3: are at Illinois, I think that gives them a little

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Speaker 3: bit of an advantage. And there's always just that that

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Speaker 3: let down. I saw a stat earlier in the week

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Speaker 3: in the NCAA tournament, and the last six teams that

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Speaker 3: have beaten Duke in the tournament have lost their next game.

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Speaker 2: And you wonder if that's going to be the case

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Speaker 2: with you kN as well.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, hopefully Dean, he really doesn't head but anyone that's right.

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Speaker 2: That's right, fellows.

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Speaker 13: Have a great John, Happy holiday with chat next week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you have a great weekend. Uh, Mike, what's going on?

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Speaker 14: How are you?

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Speaker 15: Hi?

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Speaker 16: Guys?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 16: I'd say happy Good Friday, but there's nothing happy about

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Speaker 16: Good Friday. It's actually there in college. We'll get it objectively.

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Speaker 16: I I heard the greatest interview with Well. I love

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Speaker 16: Lewis Riddick. I just love Lewis. I love everything about

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Speaker 16: Lewis Riddick. And he did the greatest breakdown of Fernando

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Speaker 16: Mendoza and Ty Simpson this morning that I've ever heard

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Speaker 16: on The Patrick's show. And he is so impressed. He said, he,

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Speaker 16: you know, stood five feet away from Mendoza during his

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Speaker 16: whole pro day and he said, Mondo, he was actually

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Speaker 16: running the pro day. Yeah, and what guys are going

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Speaker 16: to do? What how they were going to do it?

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Speaker 16: But he said he's really hit to wait.

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Speaker 12: For him hard.

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Speaker 16: He has ripped his lower body, his quadities. He couldn't

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Speaker 16: say enough wonderful things about Mendoza, not not about throwing

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Speaker 16: seventy yards down the field, you know, none.

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Speaker 3: Of just just the quarterback intangibles. He even mentioned the

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Speaker 3: idea that that every time he talked to a wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: he called the wide receiver by name and then called

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Speaker 3: out the route. And he said that's probably some minuscule

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Speaker 3: that you don't notice, but people there notice it. And

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Speaker 3: and the way he makes everything personal and and Mendoza

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Speaker 3: talked after his prodey about the reason he threw so

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Speaker 3: many passes is because he wanted to make the other

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Speaker 3: guys around him shine and I think he did a

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Speaker 3: great job of that. But he checks every intangible box

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Speaker 3: you want as your quarterback.

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Speaker 16: And what an excellent decision to hook him up with Cousins.

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Speaker 12: To break you man.

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Speaker 9: I think that was agreed, agreed, brilliant.

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Speaker 16: Okay, if you have to pick right now who's in

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Speaker 16: the final four. Now with the Illinois team, there's one

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Speaker 16: thing you got to think about here. I kind of

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Speaker 16: like him as a dark horse too, like John, but

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Speaker 16: they're not. They don't have the depth that that Michigan.

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Speaker 9: And Arizona have. They just don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Illinois knocks off Yukon just because of

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Speaker 3: that stat that that teams that have beaten Duke have

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Speaker 3: lost their last six and the way in which they

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Speaker 3: went about beating Yukon. I just like Illinois's makeup. I

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Speaker 3: think Illinois, and I'll give the edge to Arizona because

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Speaker 3: I think Arizona is probably one of the only teams

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Speaker 3: in the country that can match up with Michigan size inside,

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Speaker 3: and I like the Arizona guards a little bit better.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and that freshman Pete has really come into his

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Speaker 9: own color.

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Speaker 2: Pete is awesome.

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Speaker 3: And and if you look at Arizona, they got a

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Speaker 3: little bit of international flair on that team as well,

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Speaker 3: with del Orso and Karl Chenkof. They got some players

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Speaker 3: that have an over his background as well, mixed in

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Speaker 3: with a lot of size. I like Arizona and I

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Speaker 3: like Illinois.

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Speaker 9: You think Lloyd goes to North Carolina. I hope he doesn't.

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Speaker 9: I pray he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's just so weird how long this has taken.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm Arizona, I'm throwing everything I have at

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Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd.

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Speaker 9: I think you have to. Plus, he's a West Coast

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Speaker 9: guy anyway, and I don't know that North Carolina is

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Speaker 9: a better job anymore.

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Speaker 2: At this point. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I know the ACC is not as good as the

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Speaker 3: Big twelve right now as well, so I think you

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Speaker 3: take that into consideration.

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Speaker 16: You're right, and a lot of older guys like me

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Speaker 16: still think the ACC rules.

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Speaker 9: No, they don't third or fourth on the depth chart.

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Speaker 9: One last question, guys, who do you like to be

742
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Speaker 9: in the NBA finals?

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Speaker 2: Man, that's that's tough.

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Speaker 3: I still think in the West, I have to go

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Speaker 3: until someone knocks him off. I have to go with

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Speaker 3: the Thunder, even though I think the Nuggets, and I

747
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Speaker 3: even I think the uh, the San Antonio Spurs are

748
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Speaker 3: right there in the the East. I think I'm gonna

749
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Speaker 3: go with the Boston Celtics now that Tatum's not only back,

750
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Speaker 3: but he's playing at his elite level. I'll go Celtics

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Speaker 3: and as of today, Thunder, I'll go with Spurs.

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Speaker 2: Pistons ooh okay, well.

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Speaker 9: I kind of tend to win with Austin. I think

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Speaker 9: Wendy if Wembley wants to, Wendy can score sixty as

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Speaker 9: a drop of a hat if he wants to.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 9: But and they have great guards on that team. But

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Speaker 9: but Boston's got a really great team. The Pistons I

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Speaker 9: never my sentimental favor to do something, and they do

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Speaker 9: play old fashion, kind of roughed up NBA style basketball.

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Speaker 9: But the Celtics got so many scorers, Like you said, Tony, yah,

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Speaker 9: it's gonna be fun anyway, guys, Thanks, thanks Mike.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: You know, the only thing with the Pistons Cunningham is

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Speaker 3: still out, So how does he come back? I think

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Speaker 3: is a is a big catalyst for what they can do.

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Speaker 3: We'll take our final break of the hour when we

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Speaker 3: come back. We'll finish up our our set of phone

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Speaker 3: calls here and then we'll get to Charlie Goldsmith at

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Speaker 3: the top of our number two. The Friday edition of

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Speaker 3: Sincy three sixty continues next thanks to our friends at

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Speaker 3: sky Lenechiley, WK one and fifteen thirty Welcome back since

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Speaker 3: he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We

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Speaker 3: roll along here our number one just a few minutes

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Speaker 3: and we'll welcome in our good friend Charlie Goldsmith to

776
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Speaker 3: talk some Cincinnati Reds. Until then, Mark is hanging on

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Speaker 3: with us right now. What's up, Mark?

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Speaker 12: Okay?

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Speaker 9: I can't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't.

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Speaker 10: I mean at the beginning of the show. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I'm assuming y'all were having some Bengals talk.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to put this scenario out there.

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Speaker 10: Tony Pike gets the quarterback, and uh, you got three

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Speaker 10: ride receivers on the field and Dax's Hill is covering

786
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Speaker 10: you know, your number two or your third wide receiver?

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Speaker 5: Which direction are you going?

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Speaker 2: And until I see more, probably at Dax Hill?

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Speaker 5: So okay, got it. That's my concern.

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Speaker 10: I think good quarterbacks are gonna find him in coverage,

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Speaker 10: and I think that's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he can gover.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's fair.

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Speaker 3: He's got to he's got to show the ability a

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Speaker 3: little bit more consistently than what he has. I think

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Speaker 3: that's a I think that's a fair concern or criticism.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So, so with that being said, I wouldn't you say,

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Speaker 10: trying to get a quarter a cornerback in free agency

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Speaker 10: or high in the draft. Wouldn't that be shouldn't that

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Speaker 10: be a priority to another solid quarter cornerback.

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Speaker 3: I think you can make the case for it. But

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Speaker 3: for me, I just I still think there's something there

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Speaker 3: that Like, if you ask me the same question, if

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Speaker 3: I'm am I more concerned as a quarterback about Dax

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Speaker 3: Hill or the pass rush, Well, I think Dax Hill

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Speaker 3: is better than what they have at pass rush right now.

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Speaker 3: I think Dax Hill is better than what they have

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Speaker 3: at any linebacker position right now. So you could argue

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Speaker 3: corner being in need, and it certainly is. I just

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Speaker 3: think that the pass rush and linebacking unit is a

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Speaker 3: bigger need right now than corner.

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Speaker 5: Okay, got it, Well, maybe this may if you.

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Speaker 10: Draft a safety like that Caleb Down's dude, and you've

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Speaker 10: got good safeties. Maybe they can cover up a not

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Speaker 10: so good cornerback. So that's another way of looking at

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Speaker 10: it too, But we'll.

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Speaker 5: See what happens. So let me get off and lives

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Speaker 5: to the rest of the show.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, Mark, thank you for that. One more

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Speaker 3: here Ian is calling in to finish up our number one.

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Speaker 3: What's up being.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, hey with Lodola. This is a positive. This

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Speaker 9: will be quick.

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Speaker 14: But I called you all about it last year. But

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Speaker 14: I'm serious because when I started playing bass. Now I'm

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Speaker 14: right handed on fingerpicking, left handed on threading. He's left handed, but.

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Speaker 12: After he had a bout.

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Speaker 14: Of blisters, he kind of stabilized last year. So I'm

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Speaker 14: thinking the combination of needing to go through that like

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Speaker 14: rough interior. And then he said he already had callousies

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Speaker 14: or whatever, just like base though man, I had to

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Speaker 14: go through a series of it before it could like

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Speaker 14: stop happening. And then I think, finally, if the moisture

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Speaker 14: problem with his hand really is like just continuous with them,

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Speaker 14: he really.

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Speaker 9: Should get on like some medication like.

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Speaker 14: Powder and trying your hands is probably not gonna work,

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Speaker 14: because I just imagine any gigs that I played and

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Speaker 14: the issues. The only other solution I had was literally

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Speaker 14: filling my finger with freaking super glue like ten minutes

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Speaker 14: before playing the show.

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Speaker 9: And it worked.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I think Ian I appreciate the

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Speaker 2: phone call.

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Speaker 3: I think the only issue is the fact that it

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Speaker 3: crept back up so quickly after his first rehab start

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Speaker 3: in Daytona. That is something we will spend a lot

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Speaker 3: of time when we get back with our good friend,

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith. He kicks off our number two of Cincy

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Speaker 3: three sixty next on the Home of the Bengals ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 5: UCKWY, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go our number two, the Friday Edition,

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Speaker 3: the good Friday Edition. Since he three sixty ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We kick it off the only

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Speaker 3: way we know how to do it. On a Friday

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Speaker 3: afternoon and hour number two here with our good friend

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith joining us right now.

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Speaker 2: Charlie, what's going on?

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Speaker 17: I'm doing great? How are you, Tony?

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Speaker 2: Charlie could not be better.

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Speaker 3: Let's get started right away with what happened last night

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Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati Reads. Nicklodolo, in a rehab start with Daytona,

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Speaker 3: goes two and two thirds, does not allow a hit,

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Speaker 3: strikes out four. He was set to throw sixty to

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Speaker 3: sixty five pitches, but had to leave the game because

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Speaker 3: the blister issue has come back for Nicklodolo. He started

875
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Speaker 3: the year on the injured list because of the blister.

876
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: He leaves last night start because of the blister. What's

877
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: the latest, if any, that we know about this now

878
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: with Nicklodolo.

879
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 17: Lodola's on the way to Texas, which was the plan initially,

880
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 17: but of course the tone has changed and he's today

881
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 17: going to sit with the coaches, sit with Terry Francona,

882
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 17: and try to figure out what the heck they're going

883
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 17: to do.

884
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 12: It's a blister issue that's just been.

885
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 17: Recurring, that's been chronic over the course of his career.

886
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 17: They've tried a million things. Tito used the word today,

887
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 17: saying like when they talk or you're just able to

888
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 17: pitch through are you not? And Lodolo is going to

889
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 17: drive a lot.

890
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 12: Of that conversation. But even using the idea of him

891
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 12: pitching through it, that's still a huge gas.

892
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 17: Because the skin where the blister develops is kind of

893
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 17: the skin he.

894
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 12: Uses to make his breaking ball a leak.

895
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 17: So it's just kind of a tricky situation and just

896
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 17: tough for everybody.

897
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: Is one of the things that they've tried a new

898
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: grip on that breaking ball? Is that something that or

899
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: is that like break glass in case of emergency, have

900
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: to restart and try to figure out a new way

901
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 4: to throw a breaking ball.

902
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 17: I know he made a bit of a shift in

903
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 17: twenty twenty four after he had a blister during the

904
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 17: summer and that correction ended up with him suffering a

905
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 17: season ending finger injury, kind of to the neighboring finger,

906
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 17: I believe, the middle finger.

907
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 12: So like there's really no good answer there.

908
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 17: And then if he changes the breaking ball, well, then

909
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 17: is he able to get as much swinging this he's

910
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 17: all of a sudden learning a new pitch on the fly,

911
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 17: Like it's another thing like, well, we've made all these

912
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 17: technological advancements with all sorts of medical stuff, but blisters, man,

913
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 17: they're just kind of their whole own world that Lodola

914
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 17: is kind of stuck living.

915
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: It's such an unknown world, and it's a problem that

916
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: has persisted for Nick Lodolo, and I think to the point,

917
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: you don't want to change what makes you so elite.

918
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: That's his off speed, that's his breaking pitches to go

919
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: along with the fastball, and his arm angling so much

920
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: that goes into it. So when you look at a

921
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: situation like this, it feels like there's just not an

922
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: answer right now, or there's not a right answer right

923
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: now for how to attack this in the next steps.

924
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 17: And that's why they're just gonna meet and talk it

925
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 17: out today.

926
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 12: And hopefully we talked to Lodola at some point today.

927
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 12: It's not that'll be tomorrow.

928
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 17: Kind of about the decisions and the understanding of where

929
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 17: they're at. But you know, they can try some stuff like, hey,

930
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 17: let's give this a shot, maybe.

931
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 12: It'll help with the blister.

932
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 17: And of course those haven't you know, nothing's worked. They've

933
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 17: tried everything they can think of and more, and so

934
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 17: maybe they'll find something new. Maybe they'll try something new

935
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 17: Maybe they let it feel, maybe they have them try

936
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 17: to pitch through it and lean more on the change up.

937
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 17: But they're just gonna have to have a meeting in.

938
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 12: The mind too.

939
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: It's obviously something that he would not have been cleared

940
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: to go out there and pitch last night if they

941
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: didn't think he was out one hundred percent? Does this

942
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: make it worse that it happened on the same finger?

943
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: Is it better that it wasn't a new finger? How

944
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: do you view because that the first thought I had

945
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: is clearly he was healthy enough and viewed healthy enough

946
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: to go throw sixty to sixty five pitches. Does it

947
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: make a difference that it's on the same finger.

948
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 12: It's always been on the same finger. It's the way

949
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 12: that he spins the.

950
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 17: Ball creates a friction at that pressure point. He has

951
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 17: unfortunately gotten very good at figuring out when he is

952
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 17: an oncoming blister, and he's very good at checking them

953
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 17: right away, and that is something that you know, like

954
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 17: helped him, you know, make.

955
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 12: It worse and missed further time. But it's it's just

956
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 12: the same thing. So what do you do?

957
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: So now, what's the trickle down effect of that on

958
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: the rest of the rotation and the pitch staff. We

959
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: obviously know that that the bullpen has been under a

960
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: lot of pressure lately. How does this affect in the

961
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: immediate aftermath the Red's pitching staff.

962
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 17: They're just going to keep doing what they're doing from uh,

963
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 17: obviously they've got five guys in the rotation.

964
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 12: But I'm worried about this team length.

965
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 17: Terry Francona spoke today about Jose Franco. He's just starting

966
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 17: pitching prospect and if someone got hurt, ideally you want

967
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 17: to just see which will happen. Like he's kind of

968
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 17: the next man up, but he's not completely built up

969
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 17: right now because he's a long reliever. Peito is talking

970
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 17: today about it's kind of a not ideal spot to

971
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 17: be either where you have your closest already pitching prospect

972
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 17: pitching out of the bullpen and not getting that consistent

973
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 17: developmental work that he'd otherwise be getting.

974
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 12: A triple A.

975
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 17: So you've got that, and then after Fronco, it's petty

976
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 17: and agiar who's been struggling in to who's a lot

977
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 17: to work.

978
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 12: Under their own right.

979
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 17: They're one injury away from being in a very very

980
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 17: very you know spot, they that they wouldn't have protected

981
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 17: wanting to be in and then with the Jose Franco

982
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 17: of it all too, they're a tough spot from the

983
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 17: length in.

984
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 12: The bullpen perspective, without real.

985
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 17: Consistent ways to eat up innings when it's the time

986
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 17: in the game of the schedule where they need to

987
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 17: eat up in it.

988
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: Talk about what it does to the starting rotation. Let's

989
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: talk about the bullpen a little bit. What are your

990
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: early takeaways six games in of what this bullpen has

991
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: or has not done when they've been called upon.

992
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 17: It's not settled yet and in terms of like the

993
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 17: roles are set, like at this point last year the

994
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 17: roles weren't set, but like Pegan is still getting stretched out.

995
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 12: And I mean that like not pitch wise, like.

996
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 17: Almost the reach in the velocity and the gear that

997
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 17: he hit that made him a disclosure last year. They

998
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 17: took a plan where they were more cautious with.

999
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 12: Him in spring.

1000
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 17: So he's still just from what I'm seeing, like he's

1001
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 17: still got work to do, just from a velocity perspective. Now, interestingly,

1002
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 17: it's been the splinter that's been in more than in

1003
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 17: the basketball so far this year. But like Tony Sanziano

1004
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 17: in a similar vote of a guy who had a

1005
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 17: conservative planning spring that leads to you meeting guys like

1006
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 17: Connor Phillips to step up. I'm a big Connor Pillip's guy,

1007
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 17: but we all know he's got a first strike. I mean,

1008
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 17: Ashcraft's probably gonna be next. He's kind of earned an opportunity.

1009
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 12: If it comes this.

1010
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 17: Week, you feel like the next man up to get

1011
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 17: another leverage opportunity or a bigger leverage opportunity. But it's

1012
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 17: a bullpen that needs more upside, especially because MacDonald and

1013
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 17: Soncian just aren't pitching at their peak right now. Phillips

1014
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 17: has not been as consistent with that as you'd like.

1015
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 17: Ashcraft will be next.

1016
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 12: That's been good, Johnathan Burke.

1017
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 17: You kind of know what you're gonna get. But then

1018
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 17: you run into the length problem as a whole with

1019
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 17: this bullpen, which has been something on Tito's mind every

1020
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 17: single day and has shown up in these games.

1021
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 3: I have to ask, when you look at this lineup,

1022
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: and we'll talk about today's lineup in particular, but you've

1023
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: seen a number of players off to slower starts for

1024
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds, and again it's just a six game

1025
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: sample side. But have you seen anything from some of

1026
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: these slower starts that would cause more concern than maybe

1027
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: some of the other slow starts.

1028
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 12: I went back and I.

1029
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 17: Watched a film yesterday kind of went back through a

1030
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 17: lot of these at back.

1031
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 12: Like I think Sears had bad luck. I think that TJ.

1032
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 17: Friedel he's chasing more than he ever has, and the

1033
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 17: quality of contact and the long at back haven't been

1034
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 17: there up until Wednesday day he gets the day off.

1035
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 12: It's the lesson.

1036
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 17: So like TJ's someone that's on my mind in that way, Ellie,

1037
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 17: I think it's too soon yet to have any sort

1038
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 17: of read just cased on. Obviously you've got the same

1039
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 17: number of that back as everyone else. But I don't

1040
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 17: see a trend with him.

1041
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 12: Hayes.

1042
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 17: When I talked to him about his swing in the

1043
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 17: consistency there, he always go back, goes back to his

1044
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 17: mechanics and posture in his back, which has been hurt

1045
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 17: at different points, so figuring all that out to keep

1046
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 17: for him. He's had a slow start. More than anything, though,

1047
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 17: I'm not worried at all about this lineup step. I

1048
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 17: just I think the lineup needs like more, very more

1049
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 17: guys could develop in the very good borderline ALSAR caliber player,

1050
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 17: Like guys need to make that jump more than the

1051
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 17: lineup needs to get deeper. And so this will be

1052
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 17: a big week about especially if you start to see

1053
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 17: roles in his outfield get settled out.

1054
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: How do you how do they get to that point?

1055
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: Like do you do you feel like they're capable of

1056
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: making that jump? And like what needs to happen for

1057
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: them to make that jump?

1058
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 17: I mean, you know, it's a different story from Marte

1059
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 17: who has to just have an overall consistency and attention

1060
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 17: to detail.

1061
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 12: Versus TJ.

1062
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 17: Friedle, who just needs to get backed into like playing

1063
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 17: exactly like the guy he is.

1064
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 12: I think part of that you for Hid is he

1065
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 12: needs to just take his hits.

1066
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 17: The other way. Again, I think Spencer Steer is the

1067
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 17: guy who stow getting unlucky. Stevenson needs to get a

1068
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 17: strikeout right down. Like it's a different thing for all

1069
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 17: of them. But this the line I'm gonna keep using is.

1070
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 12: They need more guys who's rating are like an.

1071
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 17: Eighty five to eighty eight MLB the show. And of

1072
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 17: course that's like completely subjective, I think, but you know

1073
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 17: what I'm trying to say, like they need more guys

1074
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 17: to get there, and that's what a lot of.

1075
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 12: The season's going to build off.

1076
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 4: So let me use that analogy then. For example, so

1077
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: Noel vi Marte, his contact and power versus r HP,

1078
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: which is right handed pitching, is much higher than it

1079
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: is against LHP, which is left handed pitching. And yet

1080
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: it feels like he's stuck in a platoon, which means

1081
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: he's almost exclusively, not always, but almost exclusively facing left handers.

1082
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: He's in the lineup again today against the left hander.

1083
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 4: What's the thought process behind that? Is he needs reps

1084
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: against lefties and this is how he figures it out

1085
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: or what?

1086
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think the Lefti's and Wrightings are separate. I

1087
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 17: think he needs repps against luftias, and they're giving him

1088
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 17: the reps against lefties. And I think the biggest reason

1089
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 17: why he wasn't getting as many reps against Writings over

1090
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 17: the last week is like they wanted to get Benton

1091
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 17: in in the first series, and Benson had a good

1092
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 17: swing and earned the another start, and then they wanted

1093
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 17: to get Low a start. They kind of mixed the

1094
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 17: match and Mark ended up being the odd man out.

1095
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 17: It is much more than a left right thing like

1096
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 17: fastball velocity and the.

1097
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 12: Flame throwers they were facing impacted a few their decisions

1098
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 12: over the last week.

1099
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 17: I expect Marque is going to play significantly more against

1100
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 17: Writing than he has been.

1101
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 12: I'm giving this time to develop before I freak out.

1102
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 17: To saying from misusing Marque, which I know is how

1103
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 17: it's looks, because just playing against Luffy wouldn't be a

1104
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 17: good plan. I'm gonna give that time to get figured out.

1105
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: How long do you think the leashes for the Reds

1106
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 4: or not? I don't know if leish is the right word,

1107
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 4: but how long do you think they'll give it before

1108
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: they decide Okay, the current plan is or is not working.

1109
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: You mentioned like the dust settling on the outfield, and

1110
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 4: then you have a guy like Reese Hines who's not

1111
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: going to cover off the baseball and has been for

1112
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: the last two months. What do you how do you

1113
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: how do they view that situation with Hines looming in triple.

1114
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 17: A, here's what's so interesting about the outfield, Like I

1115
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 17: genuinely could you know, stand here and give a take

1116
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 17: for everyone from TJ Friedo on the depth chart to

1117
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 17: Ree Times in triple a getting more or less playing

1118
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 17: time in the big league, Like you genuinely could make

1119
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 17: a case for everything on one of these guys. No

1120
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 17: one has really emerged in that way. They need guys

1121
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 17: to emerge with recent particularly asked Francono about him today.

1122
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 17: He was talking about how saided he was that there

1123
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 17: was no left down, There was no you know, hanging

1124
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 17: his head when he got sent down to Triple A.

1125
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 17: Tino just spoke very positively about him. With Reese, the

1126
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 17: thing is he kind of just needs to play, and

1127
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 17: you know.

1128
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 12: Like the theoretical question is if you just.

1129
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 17: Gave five hundred that backboard to do and I think

1130
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 17: it'd be a nice player. But you can just clearly

1131
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 17: made stronger cases at the end of springs for the

1132
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 17: other guys. Genuine are generally looking at the decisions that

1133
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 17: these you know, decision makers have made in the middle

1134
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 17: of April NFL Draft week is like nothing, Really, you

1135
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 17: don't scrap your plan before then. I'm not expecting any

1136
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 17: major change before then. They you can make a case

1137
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 17: for a bunch of these guys playing more or less.

1138
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: To piggyback off Austin's question there, let me take it

1139
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: to third base because at third base you have a

1140
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: guy arguably the best glove as a third baseman, but

1141
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: also from a player who gets consistent at bats and

1142
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: consistent starts, one of the worst bats that you can

1143
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: have in your lineup. And it felt like maybe a

1144
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 3: guy that you use in those six and seventh innings

1145
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: has the defensive replacement laden games, but he's viewed as

1146
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: the starter for the Cincinnati Reds. What do you feel

1147
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: like that time frame looks like if key Brian Hayes

1148
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: and we're not saying he's got to hit two to eighty,

1149
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: but if he doesn't give you more at the plate,

1150
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: how do you balance the greatness of his glove versus

1151
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 3: what he's not giving you at the dish.

1152
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 17: Well, they think he's going to produce more at the plate,

1153
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 17: and they made that straight, identifying a few things, specifically

1154
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 17: getting the ball in the air more and not making.

1155
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 12: Contact just for the sake of making contact.

1156
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 17: They said, we believe you will hit enough to this

1157
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 17: point as a Red he hasn't.

1158
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 12: I think a part of his caculus too.

1159
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 17: And everyone loves Gino. There's a lot of positive.

1160
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 12: Things to say about him.

1161
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 17: What I saw on spring is a guy who is

1162
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 17: probably a below average third basement defensively right now. So

1163
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 17: that's a part of the calculus two for a team,

1164
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 17: that's their whole identity. They're trying to establish his kicking

1165
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 17: and defense.

1166
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 12: How long does it go, what changes, what doesn't.

1167
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 17: It's just gonna have to play out. They believe Hazel

1168
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 17: hit better than he's been, but it want to be

1169
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 17: the finding decisions they made when they made that trade

1170
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 17: is that they believed he could and now he's tested

1171
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 17: to do it.

1172
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: To switch gears for a moment, Charlie, twenty days, six hours,

1173
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: and forty five minutes to be exact, until the NFL

1174
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: Draft kicks off in Pittsburgh. We've not talked much draft

1175
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: in the last few times we've spoke, but now that

1176
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: we're under that three week window. Anyone you've been watching

1177
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: anything you've heard as to which direction the Bengals could

1178
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: be leaning at number ten.

1179
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 12: How I view the Kyle Dugger.

1180
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 17: Move is that they would obviously draft Downs and play

1181
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 17: him over Duggar. To me, I see that as a

1182
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 17: sign that they believe that dowas probable will be other Boar,

1183
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 17: I view it as you know you've got Down, You've

1184
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 17: got probably not going to be there. Bailey downs, You've

1185
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 17: got Bailey, he's got Fain, It's either and then just

1186
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 17: kind of a bit of a drop off. Then there's

1187
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 17: kind of a different tier and there's no one you

1188
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 17: would really I would be able to trade back because

1189
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 17: there's no one trading any there's no one that other

1190
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 17: team would be trading up for. So now you start

1191
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 17: kind of working through a different range of prospects. I

1192
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 17: think the lamee's really clean, and he he feels like

1193
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 17: a Bengals corner that they would have drafted like twenty twelve.

1194
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 17: Obviously Dane belongs in that conversation. If he's there, you've

1195
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 17: got the two corners, and then after that it's still

1196
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 17: a bit of a mystery box. But you start, you know,

1197
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 17: it's not like it's been the last couple of years

1198
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 17: where they sit there and draft and said, man, we

1199
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 17: can't believe dak kill Cells, we can't believe Cell, we

1200
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 17: can't believe Jamar Stewart and a Mariusman fell this year.

1201
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 17: It feels like the board might break will differently to

1202
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 17: where you have.

1203
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 12: To kind of pivot in a different way or not.

1204
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 12: You're not, you know, hoping to before the draft.

1205
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: You mentioned how there is a drop off outside of

1206
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: those top players in the draft, and I know it's

1207
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: usually met with it's just not what the Bengals do.

1208
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: Is there any scenario with Kansas City having that ninth

1209
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: pick where you look at the Commanders or the Saints

1210
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: at seven and eight and see if you can get

1211
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: anything done to move up knowing that there is a

1212
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: core group in this draft that's very top heavy, that

1213
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: can be game changers at positions of need. Is trading

1214
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: up off the table in your opinion?

1215
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 12: It's a very philosophical question, because what.

1216
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 17: I believe the Bengals defense needs is more impact players

1217
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 17: and more potential star power. So I would absolutely be

1218
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 17: looking for off for the opportunity to get the higher

1219
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 17: tier player.

1220
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 12: You're probably trading a starter or fourth round pick.

1221
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 17: And the problem is this is still a team with

1222
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 17: like seven meeds.

1223
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 12: Entering the draft.

1224
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 17: It'd be a much easier thing to be able to say,

1225
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 17: I was just straight up if you were, you know,

1226
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 17: not going into the draft desperate for your primary backup

1227
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 17: that linebacker and offensive tackle and et cetera, et cetera,

1228
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 17: et cetera, Like that's what you cost yourself is death

1229
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 17: that you still desperately need. I would go the star

1230
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 17: power approach for this. The Bengals team that you know

1231
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 17: consistently makes decisions going the other way.

1232
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 4: You also wrote the other day about the Kyle Dugger

1233
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 4: signing and why it kind of makes sense. Can you

1234
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: explain why Kyle Duggar can kind of fit into multiple

1235
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: roles for the Bengals defense.

1236
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 12: The Bengals. It's funny.

1237
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 17: It's a thing I do every January. I go through

1238
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 17: all the stats and I go, all, right, what were

1239
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 17: the Bengals the best at and the worst at in

1240
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 17: the previous year. And the Bengals defense last year literally

1241
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 17: was be worse when they were in base defense. Their

1242
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 17: base defense for three with a total total total flop

1243
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 17: problem worst Kyle Dugger. In a world where Dak Taylor

1244
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 17: and Lucavi this the other day, more and more teams

1245
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 17: keeps throwing more and more at a twelve personnel and

1246
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 17: thirteen personnel. Kyle gives you a different type of guy

1247
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 17: to play those subpackages which are now becoming kind of

1248
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 17: primary packages. So he can be a part of that plan.

1249
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 17: Stick a dozen against the tight end, blitz cover it

1250
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 17: tight end, you know, play a shallow zone in a

1251
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 17: four to two and a half. Look, you know, four

1252
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 17: to three, you know what I'm trying to say, four

1253
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 17: two and a half kind of like get eleven and

1254
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 17: a half personnel with Mike the SICKI he's kind of

1255
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 17: the inverse micro.

1256
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: Citi Charlie, We've be remissed not to get your opinion

1257
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: on the final four.

1258
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Who do you like?

1259
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 3: Meeting for the national title game on Monday, uh in Indianapolis.

1260
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 17: I'm gonna go Arizona beating Yukon. I'd like to shout

1261
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 17: out Arizona. My Arizona take is that they remind me

1262
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 17: of the biggest teams that watched when I was a

1263
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 17: kid and you know, like a teenager. Yes, and we

1264
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 17: are we ever gonna like feel like that again. And

1265
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 17: of course, you see, wasn't winning to that level and

1266
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 17: competing with those teams at the top of the conference

1267
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 17: this year, like maybe they can in the future, but

1268
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 17: watching those teams at the top of it, they Swolves,

1269
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 17: specifically Arizona reminded me of that and I couldn't I

1270
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 17: could be more impressed by that team this year truly,

1271
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 17: when I think is one of the best teams, that

1272
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 17: team in a.

1273
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: While, feels like they're one of the maybe the only

1274
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: team that can match Michigan's size in the tournament.

1275
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 12: I like the line.

1276
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 17: Jared Calhoun used, I think he was on I think

1277
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 17: it was with you. I was listening to this, the

1278
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 17: positional size and that as an identity like that was sick.

1279
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 17: Like that's such a queer idea of what you want

1280
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 17: to be authentsively and how you approuit towards that in

1281
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 17: a transfer portal like that, to me is a really interesting.

1282
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 3: Cotyit Charlie, the draft less than three weeks away, red

1283
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 3: season in full swing. How can listeners keep up with

1284
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 3: everything you got going on?

1285
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 17: We have Charlie's shalkboard on Subjack and Fox nineteen and

1286
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 17: the power Back podcast fifty minutes on the Red doutfield situation,

1287
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 17: which I think is fascinating.

1288
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 12: So Brian and I talked.

1289
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 17: About to get back yesterday on the show.

1290
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: Charlie, you're the best. It is.

1291
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: It's not the same as getting to see you across

1292
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: from me for an hour like last week, but nonetheless

1293
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: we appreciate you. Hope you have a great weekend as well.

1294
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie, Thanks guys, you too.

1295
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: There he is Charlie Goldsmith all over the coverage right now.

1296
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: That's that's some good clarity on the Reds. And you know,

1297
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: just the idea Austin with Nick Loodolo of he's gonna

1298
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 3: go to Texas and they're gonna sit down and try

1299
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: to figure this thing out. I mean, that's kind of

1300
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: what it is at this point, close the door, figure

1301
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: it out.

1302
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 4: I mean, everything has to be on the table, yep.

1303
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: From the idea of as ridiculous as it might sound,

1304
01:03:55,080 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 4: to Niicolodolo being a bullpen arm to taking a medication

1305
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 4: to help prevent sweating, to changing the grip on your

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Speaker 4: breaking ball, to going back to Arizona to completely restart

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: and learn new pitches yep, to can you just pitch

1308
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: through it and deal with the pain and see what happens. Like,

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01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 4: everything has to be on the table. And I don't

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Speaker 4: envy him, because I'm sure it is very frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot even imagine. We will take our first

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Speaker 3: break here and hour number two your talkbacks happen next

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 15: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone.

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 18: Please keep it clean and dope me and a sprinkle

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01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 18: sprinkle drip drips.

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks. It's our favorite tarter sinc.

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Speaker 15: Three sixty So Austin buddy, he played those falkbacks on

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 15: your screen at but he's trying.

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: Not two sabotage.

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01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: The Friday edition of your Talkbacks happens right now ESBN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: This is Scott from Reading and I have a message

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01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: from Ritz. But you'er Nick Lodolu.

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 19: Oh thanks Nick, didn't I expect to hear from Nick?

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 20: Yeah, tough guys, Kahunick, Kentucky boy.

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 5: The Bengals got better yesterday. Loved the two signings, especially Duger.

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 20: He allows you to take the best player available in

1330
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 20: the draft because he could play linebacker, safety, Nick, which

1331
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 20: don't matter what he plays at CVG. This morning seen

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 20: Richard Bertino in his family.

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: Maybe a little trip to the Bahamas. He's not going

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 5: to the Final Four.

1335
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: Surely they're not flying up there.

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01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 20: Maybe he went to the Final Four and now he's

1337
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 20: back going there before the portal season hits. Never know

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Speaker 20: what Richard's up to. And Tony, ha's your nephew doing?

1339
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 20: Hopefully doing well. Any things that Oakley Green this summer,

1340
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 20: loved the event last year.

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, I appreciate that. We are we're actually

1342
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 3: just talking right now. My sister has taken the steps

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01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: with the five oh one three C. I think it

1344
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: is to create an actual foundation where they can do

1345
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: some really good stuff to give back to families that

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: are in similar situations. Roman is kind of a week

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: to week, month to month case right now, where you know,

1348
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: sometimes when when the blood is drawn and the work

1349
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: comes back, it's great. Other times he's had to do

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01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: some hospital stays, so it's a fluid situation. But thank

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01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: you for asking, and ideally we can get something on

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: the calendar again this summer.

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Speaker 15: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And Will Lodolo

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01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 15: and Green have me questioning my trust in the Red's

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01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 15: medical staff. In fact, the Red's medical staff just dropped

1356
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 15: in my trust rankings behind long range weather forecasters and

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Speaker 15: the War in Commission.

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01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: Oh, that is not where you want to fall, all

1359
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: damn it. That is funny.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, kN from Keenlynn here, and that's right.

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Speaker 19: It's the first day, opening day the Spring Meet.

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01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 5: Although it looks a little damp right now.

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Speaker 2: But come on out.

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Speaker 5: And see us. You can find me in section A

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01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 5: of the grand stand.

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Speaker 19: Also, I want to wish Talkback Nation a very happy

1367
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 19: and blessed Easter season.

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Speaker 5: So go Red.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ken. Good to hear from you. Ken.

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Speaker 5: I tuned in Monday this week. I heard Tony, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't hear Austin.

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: Immediately, I was.

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 5: Like, promised me Tone not.

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 21: To do the show alone. It's always more fun when

1375
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 21: there's two. I remember Iron Shee and I love Commissioners week. Oh,

1376
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 21: I love Sheila Gray, John Michael and Ken Brew.

1377
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: Of mo Vaughn Pete Rose in by the Blue.

1378
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: Wow, he's got an incredible memory a mo vaugh Reference

1379
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 4: and Commissioner Squeak at the same time in a Blue

1380
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: And there are people who listen to us a lot

1381
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: who don't know about Commissioner Squeak.

1382
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: Nope, in his fifteen Minutes of fame. Oh well, Seth.

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01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 22: It's the Lord Happy Eastern Talkback Nation. Hey, Tony Austin,

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,919
Speaker 22: you mentioned yesterday that you wish you had more chances

1385
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 22: to do remote sessions. Start bench cut, doing a remote

1386
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 22: session out of state, doing a remote remote session in state,

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 22: doing a session in studio.

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: I'd probably like to keep it in state. I'll start that.

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: I will bench out of state because there are opportunities

1390
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: throughout the year, like the NFL Combine as the home

1391
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: of the Bengals, will be nice to travel to Indiana

1392
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: out of state and do a remote thing, and I

1393
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: will cut in studio.

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 19: I'm just happy to be Okay, it's thankful.

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 7: Okay, Hey, Jim and Milford, I want to hear my

1396
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 7: voice on the radio. Hey, start bench cut. What does

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01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 7: FC Cincinnati normally score in a game?

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: Zero?

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 5: Zero?

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01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: One?

1402
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: I'll start one. He wants to wants to hear his voice.

1403
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: I'll start one.

1404
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 23: Jim, Oh me so hungry, Oh me so hungry.

1405
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 9: Move on.

1406
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jerry Jones. Man just gonna go.

1407
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 17: To hot that yesterday saying that they would rather listen

1408
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:56,919
Speaker 17: to Mic from.

1409
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 12: La on and on and on.

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 8: About nothing relevant instead of anything else.

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01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 5: He Cincinnati related. Who are you?

1412
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 8: Are you Mike from LA's nephew or brother?

1413
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 12: Like, nobody wants.

1414
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 17: To hear that.

1415
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 2: I ran a whole presidential campaign to get Mike off

1416
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: the air, But no, he's still here and Austin can't

1417
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: get mad at me. I call in, I call in.

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at you. I don't get mad at

1419
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 4: I don't I've changed my old age. I'm not the same.

1420
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, you know when the.

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 5: Dutch quack fade him.

1422
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 17: Thank you, jar and for anyone that's dead Hall.

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 12: You're beating me, Johnny, poor Mike. No, it's called reading

1424
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 12: a room. Mike. Don't call in every day.

1425
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 5: Don't spend five plus minutes talking about.

1426
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: Whatever you think about.

1427
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 12: If the Reds win, call in and talk about the Reds.

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: Heck, I rather listen to talk Bac Matters guy some

1429
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: days than Mike from La.

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 10: So, Mike, this is Johnny's Friday fireball addition.

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01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm really got this. Mean guys, I'm a pretty nice

1432
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: you can say Johnny is uh incredible, he's great and

1433
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: he's my gosh.

1434
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 4: Uh seg would say he's got the rump.

1435
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, it really really thinks about Nicole dog getting

1436
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:14,879
Speaker 11: all these blisters.

1437
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 7: I ain't saying like the only thing I should think.

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01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 24: Of is maybe, uh, you should probably try like some

1439
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 24: bottle tracks and stuff, because that helped my mom with

1440
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 24: her blisters.

1441
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's good to know.

1442
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 5: Happy Friday.

1443
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 25: It's jimfer Anderson.

1444
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 5: Jim.

1445
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 25: I'm with Tony On kicking the tires on Trevor Bower,

1446
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 25: Oh gosh, oh no blistering up every other day. What

1447
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 25: does it hurt to bring in a former I know

1448
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 25: that you all start having shot at the team.

1449
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 5: He's only thirty five.

1450
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 25: Plenty, a thirty five year old still throw and throw

1451
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 25: well in this league. I know he's got some major

1452
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 25: off the field and clubhouse issues. Hopefully's pass the clubhouse

1453
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 25: issues maturity at this age. I think the only reason

1454
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 25: teams aren't bringing them in is because of the off

1455
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 25: the field stuff.

1456
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 3: I think the only reason teams aren't bringing him in

1457
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 3: is probably his performance last year.

1458
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: Probably there's a lot of reasons why they're not breaking in.

1459
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: Maybe he was working on stuff he had, if I'm

1460
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 4: not mistaken, the highest era in NPB last year, which

1461
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: is a pretty good league, and I've.

1462
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: Always been working on stuff.

1463
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 4: I don't know this to be true, but it's always

1464
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 4: been explained to me that there are there's a lot

1465
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 4: more stuff that would come out if he were to

1466
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 4: come back to Major League Baseball, and teams are they

1467
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 4: know that.

1468
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: Basically, I don't.

1469
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 4: Know if that's true, but they have just looked that

1470
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: in and said not worth it.

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a short and sweet quick one.

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Speaker 26: Wish you guys all the listeners, talkbackers, everybody a happy,

1473
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 26: safe Easter, and oppose a quick question, what do you

1474
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 26: guys do with the dyed eggs afterwards?

1475
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: Does everybody just eat multicolored deviled eggs like me?

1476
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 26: Or do you get more or inventive trying to avoid

1477
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 26: some egg farts?

1478
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 20: Let me know.

1479
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I'll never eat deviled eggs every

1480
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: few years, a good scrambled egg. But unfortunately, I think

1481
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: I want to say, my brother someone else in the

1482
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: family just houses the eggs after they're done, but not

1483
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: not in the pike househole. Deviled eggs are horrible.

1484
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 27: Best development in baseball this century the institution of the

1485
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 27: pitch clock. Worst development the automatic runner on second base

1486
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 27: in extra innings. Terrible feels like t ball. I know

1487
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 27: you don't want the nineteen inning games, the good or

1488
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 27: two in the morning, but that's part of baseball lore

1489
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 27: and history. Get rid of the automatic runner on second

1490
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 27: base in extra innings.

1491
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 3: I caught the tail end of most conversation about abs

1492
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: yes today and he made mention, you know, with a

1493
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: lot of stuff, Rob Manford gets criticized with as much

1494
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 3: criticism as he should take. I do feel like the

1495
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: pitch clock and I do feel like abs are things

1496
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 3: that he should be commended for.

1497
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: I agree, and I don't. I have I like the

1498
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: extratings rule. I don't mind it as much as other

1499
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: people either.

1500
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: I know that people don't, and like My argument for

1501
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,480
Speaker 4: college football over time is that I think it fundamentally

1502
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 4: changes the way the game is played and takes something

1503
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 4: away entirely in that special teams. And I think you

1504
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 4: could apply that same logic to baseball. So I understand

1505
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: how in a way, I'm speaking out of both sides

1506
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 4: of my mouth, which is hard to do.

1507
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: It is a.

1508
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 4: Sport where I just it just I think it makes

1509
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 4: sense to do it the way they do it. Maybe

1510
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 4: if you want to put a guy at first instead,

1511
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 4: maybe that would help a little bit. I don't know, Yeah,

1512
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 4: but I like the idea of the extradity. And there's

1513
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 4: also games where it doesn't matter.

1514
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: You know, I don't mind it, you.

1515
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 24: Know, listening to Charlie talk about Nick Lodola, a little

1516
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 24: bit of a I guess light bulb went off of

1517
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 24: my head, right, So you got to manage this guy

1518
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 24: somehow Someway. Well, let's limit his pitches. Maybe make him

1519
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 24: the closer or at least the setup guy. If Pagan

1520
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 24: doesn't have his stuff, Phillips, we don't know yet. Why

1521
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 24: not make Nick Lodola the closer, fastball change up, get

1522
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 24: rid of the breaking ball so much, sprinkle it in

1523
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 24: a little drip drip occasionally. But how about that for

1524
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 24: managing Nick?

1525
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 3: I think that, maybe, as crazy as it sounds, is

1526
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 3: something that would have to be on the table when

1527
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: they get together in Texas.

1528
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everything should be on the table. I

1529
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if he would want to

1530
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: do that. I don't know. I just where do we

1531
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: go from here?

1532
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 11: I think Lodoldo in the bullpen has probably got to

1533
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 11: be the move.

1534
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 5: I agree, it's ridiculous talking about it.

1535
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 11: But the blisters, it seemed like they form later in

1536
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 11: the game, probably around the fourth or fifth in on

1537
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 11: if he comes in for one or two ings out

1538
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 11: of the bullpen, I mean, I'd be a hell of

1539
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 11: a guy coming out, But that might be the answer.

1540
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything on the table, I think is a fair

1541
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: way to look at it.

1542
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 28: Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond, Happy Friday. I hope

1543
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 28: you guys have a great Easter weekend and everybody, all

1544
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 28: the talkbackers, callers, listeners, have a safe weekend out there. Hey,

1545
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 28: I just saw that Tommy Lloyd is staying at Arizona.

1546
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 28: Wanted to get your guys' thoughts on that he turned

1547
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 28: down North Carolina. They're running out of people to get.

1548
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 28: I'm just wondering your thoughts.

1549
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 5: Take care.

1550
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 4: Did he officially turn it down? I haven't seen that,

1551
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 4: but it's I'm sure that's possible. CBS Sports.

1552
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So, CBS Sports has said that Tommy Lloyd's staying

1553
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: at Arizona as he turns down a massive offer from

1554
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 3: North Carolina. Okay, so according to CBS Sports in Mountain, Norlander,

1555
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 3: that's a thing.

1556
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: I wonder who the pivot would be too, Wes not Wes. Yeah,

1557
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 4: the joke is, you got to make Brad Stevens say no.

1558
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 4: You probably got to make Jay Wright say no. You

1559
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 4: probably at least ask about Danny Hurley. Uh, Michigan is

1560
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 4: apparently close to locking up Dusty May. Can you maybe

1561
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 4: break up that relationship?

1562
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 3: In this CBS Sports article, it says that Tommy Lloyd's

1563
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: new salary will be seven point two million dollars next year,

1564
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: and that will be substantially less what UNC was prepared

1565
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: to offer him.

1566
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 2: So, okay, maybe it's not.

1567
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 7: You don't like the guy at second base and extra innings,

1568
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 7: I say, load debates is up.

1569
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: You want to make things interesting? Yeah, top ten basis I.

1570
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 11: Think it's pushed back on the extra inning rule is

1571
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 11: they don't enforce it in the postseason. If you're going

1572
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 11: to have a rule in the regular season, then have

1573
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 11: the rule. If you don't want to rule in the postseason,

1574
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 11: they don't have the rule at all.

1575
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: You can't have both.

1576
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 11: And I am definitely anti that.

1577
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: I get a little bit of that.

1578
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: But like, if you look at like soccer and other sports,

1579
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 3: they do extra time, they have games that end in ties,

1580
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,959
Speaker 3: and then you get to the postseason, it's a shootout.

1581
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, hockey's like this too. Right for during the regular season,

1582
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 4: it's three on three. Okay, So why does this happen?

1583
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: The well, careful reason.

1584
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: Don't make three on three. I'll get people, big man.

1585
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying the the reason this happens is

1586
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: because of the length of the season. Yeah, and there's

1587
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 4: already tons of issues with pitchers and arms and injuries

1588
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. So would you take

1589
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 4: a shortened season in exchange for the rule going back

1590
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 4: to the way it was, shorten it by ten twelve

1591
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 4: fifteen games?

1592
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: Good question. I don't know. That's it for today. All right,

1593
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: two segments.

1594
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 4: Go giver some UFL rules later on. Look at the

1595
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 4: US some of the UFL rules for this year. I

1596
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 4: have not there's like a four point field goal and

1597
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 4: oh boy, certain times you can and can't punt.

1598
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: I gotta ask you about that. Two segments, one segment,

1599
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: one segment when we returned, and that's pretty cool. Tom

1600
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: Gallairder will join us along with Bob Manjean and mowagar

1601
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: all on our number three ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

1602
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 4: Allergy season right around the corner to have you experienced

1603
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: this yet?

1604
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,480
Speaker 2: I've experienced allergies already.

1605
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 4: Like so far like this. I know you've had in

1606
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 4: the past.

1607
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 2: But allergies put a strain on my marriage.

1608
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 4: I know that they kick your butt, kill me. Have

1609
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 4: you is it is it started yet?

1610
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 2: Oh?

1611
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I had recently, you know,

1612
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 3: you turn forwarding a lot of things change in your life.

1613
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: Had some blood work done to make sure. Oh, I'm

1614
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: where I need to be.

1615
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 3: And like, two of my numbers came back abnormal, and

1616
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 3: you immediately it's nature. You you google what those numbers

1617
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: can be and you think the worst, and uh, both

1618
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: of mine came down to allergies.

1619
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: Just wiping me out already.

1620
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 4: So have you ever had one of those like allergy

1621
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 4: tests where they like, yeah, do a bunch of pricks

1622
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 4: in your back?

1623
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: Basically you've had that happen. Yeah, nothing helps.

1624
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 4: Anyways, I'm I'm kind of going through something as we speak.

1625
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know you saw it when

1626
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 4: you came in here, but I have these eye drops. Yeah,

1627
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: my eyes have been in horrible shape for the last

1628
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: two or three weeks, and uh, you know, I keep

1629
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 4: getting that like mucus and that like crust, and then

1630
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 4: they're I'm just they're just uncomfortable and dry and all

1631
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 4: of this sudden. So I just had an out of

1632
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 4: body experience putting in these eye drops during the commercial break. Oh,

1633
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 4: and it's just the instant relief. But I feel like

1634
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: I can't see.

1635
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: My biggest thing with eyes struggling with like on if

1636
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm golfing and I don't take allergy medicine. The amount

1637
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 3: of itching and swelling that comes to my eyes.

1638
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out is this allergies? Is it

1639
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 2: dry eyes?

1640
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean you're in the bathroom, You're you're washing the

1641
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 3: eyes out. It's brutal.

1642
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 4: I also hate working out with my glasses on. But

1643
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 4: I was talking to my my buddy as an optometrist,

1644
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 4: and he's like, you probably should go like a week

1645
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 4: without taking putting your contacts in.

1646
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 2: Hmm. I was like, damn it, what about uh?

1647
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 5: Oh?

1648
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: Real quick?

1649
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: Now, based on Jeff's talk back, Pete Dammel announcing it

1650
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: is confirmed Tommy Lloyd will be back at Arizona. He's

1651
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 3: gonna be one of the top five highest paid coaches

1652
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: in college basketball. So if you think of the Big

1653
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 3: twelve Austin, we made to mention Jared Calhoun coming to Cincinnati,

1654
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: and there's unknowns with Houston and Kansas and Arizona. We

1655
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: know everything now the coach are coming back.

1656
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 4: So what will happen is North Carolina will get like

1657
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 4: a placeholder guy and then next year will be a

1658
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 4: full fledge assault on West Miller. Jared can't Calhoun negative

1659
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 4: Calhoun A couple of Bengals things the name streets after him.

1660
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 4: One Bengals thing the NFL just sent this out is

1661
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 4: official the off season workout dates for the Bengals.

1662
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: Oh are you ready for this? Please?

1663
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 4: First day of offseason workouts April twentieth. Okay, I have

1664
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 4: a feeling there may or may not be some random

1665
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: drug testing that day across the National Football Ah.

1666
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 2: Yes, four good? Anyways?

1667
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 4: OTA off season workouts, two sets of OTAs. There's a

1668
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 4: phase one, a phase two A Phase one. Phase one

1669
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 4: of OTAs will be June first through the third. Okay,

1670
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 4: Phase two will be June eleventh through or June ninth

1671
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 4: through the eleventh, and Phase three, which is mandatory mini camp,

1672
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 4: will be June sixteenth through the eighteenth for the Cincinnati Bengals. Meanwhile,

1673
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about the USEFLTEF Gilmore's retiring.

1674
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for more pro UFL rules okay, okay. The

1675
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 4: twenty twenty sixth season, the UFL featured unique rule changes. Oh,

1676
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 4: and I want to get your thoughts on a few

1677
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 4: of them.

1678
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 17: All right.

1679
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 4: They have added a four point field goal. Field goals

1680
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 4: kicked from sixty yards or further are worth four points.

1681
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 4: Love it, You're in on this Oh absolutely. I was

1682
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 4: watching a game last weekend and this dude blasted one.

1683
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 4: I think it was like a sixty four yarder. Yeah,

1684
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 4: probably would have been good from seventy and four points.

1685
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a big swing.

1686
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 2: In the game. I'm in Imay.

1687
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 4: How about this one. No punting inside the fish yard line.

1688
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 2: I despise punting anyway.

1689
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 4: That if you are in plus territory, yeah, you are

1690
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 4: in the opponent's side of the fifty. Punts are not

1691
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 4: allowed except inside the two minute warning.

1692
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor would never sign off on that.

1693
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 4: No tush push the quarterback sneak play involving players pushing

1694
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 4: the quarterback from behind a band stop it.

1695
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 3: I disagree. I'm okay with the toush push. I hate

1696
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 3: punting inside the fifty.

1697
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 4: Only one foot for a catch.

1698
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: You imagine some of these NFL wide receivers what they

1699
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 3: could pull off of. They just got to get one

1700
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: foot down.

1701
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 4: I like the two feet overtime is team's alternating attempts

1702
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 4: from the five yard line. Each success is two points

1703
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 4: and it's a best of three, okay, So if you

1704
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: get two stops and you convert one, you win. Oh

1705
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 4: my goodness. Aaron Judge just hit a home run about

1706
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 4: nine hundred feet. Took my breath away. I don't mind

1707
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 4: that thereout three attempts. I hate it, but it's interesting.

1708
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 4: I would almost like that more than the college football version.

1709
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 4: And then this one for the pat After a touchdown,

1710
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: teams can choose a one point kick, a two point

1711
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 4: play from the two yard line, or a three point

1712
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 4: play from the ten yard line.

1713
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: Ooh, okay, I like the creativity.

1714
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 4: Is there any of these that you would like to

1715
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 4: see brought into the national footb Yeah, league.

1716
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 3: Don't kick inside the fifty and I'm okay with four

1717
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 3: point field goals sixty plus.

1718
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: I wonder about it because everything else probably know, sixty

1719
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 4: is relatively routine for a lot of guys, now is it.

1720
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: It's not like.

1721
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 4: It's just not out of the realm of possibility. Okay,

1722
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 4: like what I might have to look up the numbers,

1723
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 4: but it felt like there were more sixty yard field

1724
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 4: goals aid last year than ever before. I mean, you

1725
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 4: think of Jerry Jones, if Duck Quack's feed it, that

1726
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 4: would help them well and Brandon Aubrey. But also here's

1727
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 4: why teams would probably hate it is now Brandon Aubrey's

1728
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 4: rate just went up even more. That's true because he's

1729
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: a guy that can provide more value to your team.

1730
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 3: Speaking of providing value to the team, can I give

1731
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 3: you some of these names that the NFL draft have

1732
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: given player comps to Matt Miller?

1733
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: Can I give you some of these? I'm not sure

1734
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: what you're saying.

1735
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 3: So they take a player that's going to be draft

1736
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,879
Speaker 3: and they give his current NFL comparison, Okay, Fernando Mendoza

1737
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 3: Matt Miller's comparison Joe Burrow laughable, Jeremiah.

1738
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: Love Wait, why he ain't?

1739
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 17: No?

1740
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: Explain it?

1741
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 3: One year after zero quarterbacks had a true first round grade,

1742
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 3: there is one in this class. Mendoza transferred Indiana and

1743
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: developed into a Heisman winning quarterback, outstanding pocket poise, expert level,

1744
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: touched all areas of the field. His favorite trade his

1745
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 3: ability to put the ball up for his receivers to

1746
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: make plays. Arms strength will never be elite. Mendoza protects

1747
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 3: the ball and is a great distributor forty one touchdown,

1748
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 3: six picks, and his game is very similar to Burrow

1749
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: thanks to his deadly accuracy, poison the pocket, and pension

1750
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 3: for making big plays.

1751
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. I just think Burrow he's I

1752
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: don't think his ceiling is close to Burrow. I wouldn't agree.

1753
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 4: I would agree with that, but like just based off

1754
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 4: the foundational fundamental piece here, I don't think that's crazy.

1755
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll dive through a couple of these these

1756
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 3: other ones later. But Matt Miller is not afraid Austen

1757
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 3: to throw some very prestigious comparisons out there. Good for

1758
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,440
Speaker 3: him for these first round NFL Draft prospects.

1759
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 2: We've got to get a break.

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Speaker 3: Tom Gallairder, the voice of FC Cincinnati, stands by to

1761
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: join us, and then we'll get with Bob Manjean. That

1762
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: starts our two or hour three next on ESPN fifteen

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01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 3: to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Men, we all know how important Tony Pikes since sixty

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01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 1: about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Sports Dation.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, since he three to sixty. Let's kick off

1768
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 3: our number three on a Friday the only way we

1769
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 3: know how to do it. We'll talk some FC Cincinnati

1770
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: with the voice of the Orange and Blue, Tom Gallader

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01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 3: joining us right now.

1772
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Speaker 2: Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, what's going on.

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01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 18: And we're back after the FEKA break and very excited

1774
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 18: to see the Orange, Blue, back and action kicking off

1775
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 18: a very busy month of April ahead.

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01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the break itself. We talked last week

1777
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: about the timing of the break because the team was

1778
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 3: on a little bit of a skid and then they

1779
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: find their footing two short handed goals to get three points,

1780
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: and you kind of wondered, is that something you want

1781
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 3: to get right back onto the pitch as quick as

1782
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 3: possible or does the break help this team going through

1783
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 3: that break? Now, how do you feel it it helps

1784
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 3: or or does it hurt FC Cincinnati at all?

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 18: You know, I think we're gonna find out in about

1786
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 18: twenty nine hours, right when the team takes the pitch

1787
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 18: and Harrison, New Jersey against New York Red Bulls. But

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01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 18: I think I go back to what we talked about

1789
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 18: last week and the break giving pat In and his

1790
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 18: staff the time and the opportunity to look at what

1791
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 18: has worked through the first nine games across all competitions

1792
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 18: and what has not, and to fix some of those

1793
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 18: things and to spend time, you know, on the pitch

1794
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 18: together developing in a way they really haven't had the

1795
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 18: opportunity so far since camp broke because the games have been,

1796
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 18: you know, so fast and furious weekend.

1797
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 5: Midweek, weekend, mid week weekend, midweek.

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01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 18: So you don't have a whole lot of time to

1799
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 18: improve things when that's the case. So I think this

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Speaker 18: break is very good. I think if you look at it,

1801
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 18: historically since to start at twenty twenty three, Pat Newons

1802
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 18: teams have done really well coming off of FEFA break

1803
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 18: ninety one and four. The only time they've lost coming

1804
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 18: off fever break was that playoff loss last year against Miami.

1805
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 18: So historically they've done really well with the extra time,

1806
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 18: and I'll be interested to see how it plays out

1807
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 18: tomorrow night.

1808
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 3: When you talk about what you can fix and what

1809
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, what you can improve on. When you look

1810
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: at where this team is at, are there things that

1811
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 3: jump out? It's okay, this is a fix, but it's

1812
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 3: not something that's going to take something, you know, completely

1813
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 3: rewriting who this team is. Maybe a tweak here, a

1814
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 3: tweak there. What would that look like for this club?

1815
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 18: Well, I think part of it is figuring out how

1816
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 18: and what your best of the eleven looks like. To

1817
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 18: get your best eleven players on the pitch all at

1818
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 18: the same time, and what tactics does it look like

1819
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 18: to get that done. Another question is who is part

1820
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 18: of that and Miles Robinson, who is suspended for this

1821
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 18: match tomorrow, is not going to be part of the puzzle,

1822
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 18: so you won't have him back and we'll wait and

1823
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 18: see what the status of romancelone tunnel is. But as

1824
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 18: you work towards that, I think it's figuring out sure

1825
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 18: would give you the best chance to win. The defense

1826
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 18: has been disappointing the last three games after being fantastic

1827
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 18: the first six, So I think getting back the way

1828
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 18: this team has been that's been part of their identity

1829
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 18: under Patent and it is to be a really good

1830
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 18: defensive team, and that starts tomorrow, to get back to

1831
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 18: it and stop leaking goals and the way they did

1832
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 18: in those last three matches. So I think it starts

1833
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 18: there and then you get the attack firing and all

1834
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 18: cylinders in a way that they're capable of, and that

1835
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 18: sets you up for success.

1836
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 3: How difficult is it over the course, because I feel

1837
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 3: like we talk about this all the time. Consistency in

1838
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 3: any sport is important when you have such a long

1839
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 3: season like the MLS is and then you have international breaks,

1840
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 3: you have different types of you have MLS matches, you

1841
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 3: have CONCA CAF, you have all these different matches as well.

1842
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: How difficult is it to put together consistency over a

1843
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 3: long period of time. It feels like the more we

1844
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 3: learn and the more we watch this, it's more about

1845
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 3: how can you handle those moments of adversity and come

1846
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 3: out on the other side of them.

1847
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 18: One in reality is that many of these teams in

1848
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 18: Major League Soccer with the based on how the calendar

1849
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 18: works and how CONCAF Champions Cup slots in. Not everybody

1850
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 18: participate in Champions Cup of course, right, so the teams

1851
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 18: that participate it. And as the calendar is now, as

1852
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 18: it sits early in a season for MLS team, sure

1853
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 18: MLS teams are still find themselves.

1854
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 5: So that's a little bit of a disadvantage.

1855
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 18: And then on top of it, it creates the schedule

1856
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 18: congestion and historically those MLS teams have struggled a little

1857
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 18: bit in the early portion of the season because of

1858
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 18: the scheduled congestion and that wrinkle that's throwing on them.

1859
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 18: But listen, every MLS team wants to win Champions Cups.

1860
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 18: They're going to go for it and throw everything at

1861
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 18: it and then try to make up some of the

1862
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 18: points that maybe they drop in the league games at

1863
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 18: a later time. And certainly amccony disappointed about the points that.

1864
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 2: Were dropped and the way they were dropped.

1865
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 18: But now the opportunity comes here in the month of

1866
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 18: April to string together some wins and make up for

1867
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 18: the points that they didn't get in the month of March.

1868
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 18: So yeah, I think certainly it creates the congestion and

1869
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 18: it's a different wrinkle that everybody has to deal with.

1870
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 5: But the teams to qualify, it's a good thing.

1871
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 18: If you're involved right, that means you did something right

1872
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 18: in the previous seasons. So it's certainly where you want

1873
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 18: to be. But it's a factor and something that the

1874
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 18: teams that are involved have to manage.

1875
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 3: When you talk about the month of April, how different

1876
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: does that look just from a scheduling standpoint, Because we've

1877
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 3: talked leading into March and through March about how congested

1878
01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: it does get.

1879
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 2: Does that ease.

1880
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 3: Now going into the month of April, does it get

1881
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 3: back to a little bit of a sense of normalcy.

1882
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 18: And does especially with like a regular match week build up,

1883
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 18: as has been the case here and will be the

1884
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 18: case the next couple of weeks.

1885
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 5: So you don't have a midweek.

1886
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 18: Game again until the second half of the month in

1887
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,879
Speaker 18: New York City. So they're on the road tomorrow against

1888
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 18: New York, then they'll be on the road next week

1889
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 18: against Toronto. That's a regular week build up, so they

1890
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 18: can find a bit of routine, and the same thing

1891
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 18: the following week when they get ready to come home

1892
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 18: for Chicago. After that match, though, you go to New

1893
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 18: York City and play midwek game and then you welcome

1894
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 18: Red Bulls back to TQOF Stadium to round out the month.

1895
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 18: But think about this, over the course of April thirty days, right,

1896
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 18: I think it'll be what twenty five days or something

1897
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 18: between the all the games, But over the course of

1898
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 18: the whole month of April, they'll play five matches in

1899
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 18: fifteen days. Leading into that international break, they played five matches,

1900
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 18: so certainly less congestion, more chance to breed and to

1901
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 18: find your identity and figure out who you are in

1902
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 18: twenty twenty six.

1903
01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 2: For this club.

1904
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 3: I know Pat Nowan talked about the fight and he

1905
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 3: was happy and encouraged by the fight that this team

1906
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 3: showed in their last win. How important is that because

1907
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 3: it's one thing when when in sports you go through skids,

1908
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: it's easy sometimes to just kind of lower your head

1909
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 3: and it's just not going our way, and that's snowballs.

1910
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 3: But the fight that this team showed and the last

1911
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 3: time we were able to see them, how important now

1912
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 3: is that to carry that over into this next match?

1913
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's huge. I think you have to

1914
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 18: build upon it. The good news is we'll start with

1915
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 18: eleven players and hopefully finish that way. Whereas in that match,

1916
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 18: you know, the grit in the fight and the passion

1917
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 18: that we saw a lot of it came for the

1918
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 18: final thirty minutes once Miles Robinson was sent off.

1919
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 5: So no, I think it's a very big piece piece

1920
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 5: of the.

1921
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 18: Puzzle to have a little bit of pride coming out

1922
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 18: of that and say, okay, we write at a ship

1923
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 18: a little bit, but it wasn't perfect. Now, what did

1924
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 18: we work on the last two weeks to improve and

1925
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 18: how does that translate against the Red Bulls team that's

1926
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 18: been up and down. They had a man sent off

1927
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 18: in their previous match as well, and they conceded six

1928
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 18: goals and got thumped. So you know, Red Bulls have

1929
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 18: been up and down a little bit. They're trying to

1930
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 18: find their identity with the new manager. So I think,

1931
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,719
Speaker 18: you know, the reality is that you got to come out,

1932
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 18: You got to pick up where you left off two

1933
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 18: weeks ago and like I said, start to string some

1934
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 18: results together and put yourself in a position in the

1935
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 18: Eastern Conference.

1936
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 3: From just a sheer keys to victory standpoint, we hit

1937
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 3: on this echine every week ahead of a match. What

1938
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: are your biggest keys for FC Cincinnati Tomorrow night.

1939
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 18: We'll talk about Tony and the defense has to improve.

1940
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 18: The last three games, way too many goals conceded, you know,

1941
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 18: very very frustrating for the whole team and the coaching staff.

1942
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 5: There's no question about that.

1943
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 18: So I think, you know, you solidify things defensively, but

1944
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 18: there's been some battles lost in the midfield. So whomever

1945
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 18: Pat runs out there in this match against New York,

1946
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 18: and he has very talented options, it's a matter of okay,

1947
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 18: let's figure out who gives us the best chance to

1948
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 18: win those midfield battles. Because Sammy Guede is very good

1949
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 18: of being a Wobodo has been very good Pavel Buca.

1950
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 18: You know, obviously Evander will be up top trying, you know,

1951
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 18: at leading the head of the midfielders, trying to set

1952
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 18: up the attack. And you could tell Evander's a player

1953
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 18: right now that wants to get on track. You know,

1954
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 18: MVP candidate from the last year, you know, one of

1955
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 18: the best players over the last couple of years and

1956
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 18: majorly soccer, and he had a slow start to the

1957
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 18: year and then part of that was due to his injury.

1958
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Speaker 18: So I think getting a Vander going, So if Fcina

1959
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 18: can win those battles in the midfield, then I think

1960
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 18: they're in a position to win.

1961
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Speaker 3: I do have to ask you, Andre Tirilla. Earlier this week,

1962
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 3: story becomes another homegrown player from FC Cincinnati that has

1963
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 3: gone through the player pathway from the f C Cincinnati

1964
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 3: Academy all the way to now a contract with FC Cincinnati.

1965
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about just the academy and how

1966
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 3: that is kind of bearing fruit already for FC Cincinnati.

1967
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is in Red Bulls.

1968
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 18: You know, the opponent tomorrow is as good of an

1969
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 18: example in injury soccer as anybody who have used their

1970
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 18: academy to leverage success and bringing players through who contribute

1971
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 18: to the team. Thanks behind a team like New York

1972
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 18: because they've been done as long.

1973
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 2: But they've done a great job that.

1974
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 18: Larry Sunderlynd and building the academy and then Chris Albright

1975
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,879
Speaker 18: and his staff and monitoring these guys through the academy

1976
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 18: process and then getting the minutes with FC Cincinnati too.

1977
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 18: But I'll tell you since Andrea roddn't remember his older

1978
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 18: brother Steph, he's on the first team as well. And

1979
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 18: step arrived and they were excited about and then it

1980
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 18: brought Andre on and everybody's raving about what Andre could

1981
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 18: do as a center back. And you know, we've seen

1982
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 18: some minutes from him. He came on loan from the

1983
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 18: two team four times this year. Well that's the max.

1984
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 18: So then you know the reality is that they want

1985
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 18: to play him again, he has to be on his

1986
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 18: homegrown deal and a first team contract, So now that's

1987
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 18: the case. But this is a guy that I think

1988
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 18: FC Cincinnati fans should be keeping an eye on and

1989
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 18: should be really really excited to watch grow in the future.

1990
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Speaker 18: Just seventeen years old and has a very very high ceiling.

1991
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 18: Certainly someone who should be a starter for years and

1992
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 18: a big part of this team's success.

1993
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 3: Do you have anything set for when you touch down

1994
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: in New York that you'll you'll cross off the list tonight?

1995
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Speaker 5: I mean, this is as routine of a trip as

1996
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 5: they come.

1997
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Speaker 18: And Kevin and I, Oh, by the way, big milestone

1998
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Speaker 18: tomorrow for our book with Kevo Oh match day number

1999
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:15,799
Speaker 18: three hundred.

2000
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 2: Wow.

2001
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 18: I got to go get a cake or something for

2002
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 18: him having a booth.

2003
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 5: I'm going.

2004
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 18: There's a great bakery there near where we stay. We

2005
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 18: I mean, we've been there so many times for matches.

2006
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 18: This is the twenty first time including USL that these

2007
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 18: teams have played each other, So they've seen each other

2008
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 18: quite a bit. I think it's a fifteenth time with

2009
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 18: all the games that ever since. I he's played at

2010
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 18: at Red Bull Arena because they played New York City

2011
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 18: there a few times and they played I think Montreal

2012
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 18: there during the during COVID, so yeah, or Toronto maybe

2013
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 18: one of those teams. Either way. Yeah, we've been there

2014
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 18: quite a bit. We know, we know the neighborhood well.

2015
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 18: And let me tell you, I just got an email

2016
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 18: right before we came on as we get ready to leave,

2017
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 18: just coincidentally from the bagel shop. You know they goes

2018
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 18: out in New York and New Yority're a little different,

2019
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 18: right sending me their new menu items, Like.

2020
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 5: You think that's a coincidence. I go there every time.

2021
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 18: There'll be pictures on my social media that o bagel

2022
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 18: over there in Hobooking is my spot.

2023
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 5: So I'll i'llway stop in it. Maybe I'll grab a

2024
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 5: few extra up and by the house when I get

2025
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 5: home off.

2026
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 18: The charter on Saturday night Sunday morning, especially for you,

2027
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 18: you little Eastern egg.

2028
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:21,759
Speaker 5: I can leave out front.

2029
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 3: For especially coming off ideally three more points before I

2030
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: let you go. The Guardians off to a good start,

2031
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 3: sitting on top of the division at four and three,

2032
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 3: and the Browns we got a little quarterback controversy. Bruin

2033
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 3: Sador Sanders is gonna wear number two, Deshaun Watson maybe

2034
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback. What do you think plays out now

2035
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 3: with your Cleveland Browns at the quarterback position?

2036
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 18: First and foremost. We're two hours away from opening day

2037
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 18: in Cleveland, and the Guardians come off a rit. I mean, look,

2038
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 18: you play Seattle and the Dodger's pretty good, and you

2039
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 18: come home four and three, you gotta be feeling pretty

2040
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 18: good about that.

2041
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 2: Chase.

2042
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 5: The laud's been hot, so that's awesome. Listen, Bill Browns,

2043
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,440
Speaker 5: go Browns fair.

2044
01:39:58,760 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 2: That's fair.

2045
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 3: I like that A very down the middle answer. As

2046
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 3: to Deshaun Watson or Shador Sanders, Tommy g I know

2047
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 3: you guys are getting ready to travel out, so we

2048
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 3: appreciate the time. As always on a Friday, always get

2049
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,759
Speaker 3: the three points and we'll do it again next week.

2050
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 5: Another choice, my friend, look forward to it.

2051
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: That is Tom Galtter, the voice of FC Cincinnati. We

2052
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 3: appreciate his time. To kick off our number three. Bob

2053
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 3: man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare next

2054
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 3: on the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

2055
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Sports Station.

2056
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 8: NOPE is.

2057
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 3: Welcome back Sincy three to sixty hour three. Rolling along,

2058
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 3: Let's get to our friend, Bob man Jean from the

2059
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati and Novacare who joins us each and

2060
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 3: every week.

2061
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 2: Bob, what's going on? How you doing this week?

2062
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 29: Tommy's doing pretty good, you know, just getting ready for

2063
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 29: spring golf and with the golf team, our boys are

2064
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 29: hopefully going to qualify for the NCA regionals. They're in

2065
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,839
Speaker 29: fifty first place in the nation, so hopefully it'll continue

2066
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 29: that way.

2067
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 3: So truly, no off season for Bob Manjeing, Is that

2068
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 3: what you're telling me?

2069
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 5: Pretty much?

2070
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 29: You know, there's just no off season anymore. You you

2071
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 29: have to deal with, you know, different sports at different

2072
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 29: times a year. Obviously, you know the basketball's in footballs

2073
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 29: now go year round. Now the golfs and the other

2074
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 29: Olympic sports they'll have, you know, their summer seasons off

2075
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 29: pretty much when school's over.

2076
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 2: But still, the rules.

2077
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 29: In the NCAA have changed so much since two thousand

2078
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 29: and four, you just never know it's going to be

2079
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 29: back here by June or July to start summer conditioning

2080
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 29: and training.

2081
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 3: Also, before we get into our topic today, I know

2082
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 3: that the transfer portal window for basketball opens on April seventh.

2083
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 3: How hectic does that time get for you? If if

2084
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 3: guys are coming in or visiting and you're you're making

2085
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 3: sure they're they're they're got the clean bill of health,

2086
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 3: what does that look like for you when that poor

2087
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 3: does open.

2088
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 29: Well, the poral you're already looking, you're I mean, obviously

2089
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 29: there's a lot of of uh, you know, general managers

2090
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 29: around the country for the different teams already talking to agents,

2091
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 29: you know, before the official start of the poral, you're

2092
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 29: getting somebody, yeah, as far as you know who who

2093
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 29: you might be looking at. So you're trying to get

2094
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 29: some information on those kids. Once the portal officially hits

2095
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 29: and obviously the kids are in there and registered for

2096
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 29: the portal, so now you can get better information. And again,

2097
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 29: like our guys when they come to me and say, hey,

2098
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 29: I think I'm going to transfer, and it's like, okay,

2099
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 29: sign this release of information. Do what do you want

2100
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 29: me to release? What do you not want me to release?

2101
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 29: But you know, again it's it follows every other hip

2102
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 29: of Guideline, you know. So it's not like I can

2103
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 29: just pick up the phone and say, oh, so and

2104
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 29: so did this, or so and so.

2105
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 5: I did that.

2106
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 29: You know, if they don't agree for a disclosure, I

2107
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 29: just sit here and say nothing.

2108
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 3: I want to ask because we could have just kind

2109
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,799
Speaker 3: of re ran what we talked about last week with blisters,

2110
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 3: because Nicolodolo is struggling with them again. But I thought

2111
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 3: some other national news right now is the news of

2112
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 3: what Tiger Woods is going through. And look, I'm on

2113
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 3: a smaller version of this because I've gone through many surgeries,

2114
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 3: and when surgeries happened, the amount of pain that you're

2115
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 3: in is immense and oftentimes unbearable, and even to get

2116
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,959
Speaker 3: through a sporting event at times can become a big challenge.

2117
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 3: So I understand the pain side of things and that

2118
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 3: there's a threshold and sometimes the pain exceeds that threshold,

2119
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 3: and that's where painkillers can come into the equation. I

2120
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 3: can't imagine in your world how difficult that is is

2121
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 3: monitoring and when a player is deemed to be fit

2122
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 3: to be off of the painkillers. Just walk me through

2123
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,799
Speaker 3: the process of athletes when you do have to prescribe

2124
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 3: painkillers and how you're keeping an eye on that.

2125
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 12: Well.

2126
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:05,879
Speaker 29: I mean, simply put, the FDA has really, as everybody

2127
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 29: knows by social media and the media itself, the FDA

2128
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 29: has really clamped down on the use of narcopics. So

2129
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 29: let's classify one group as narcotics and those percosets and

2130
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 29: those type of medications. And there's many institutions now and

2131
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 29: physicians who no longer go.

2132
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 5: To that level.

2133
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 29: So there's other combinations that can be used which are

2134
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 29: non narcotic or lower level of narcotics, so that post surgery,

2135
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 29: obviously we watch them very carefully, but a lot of

2136
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 29: our docs have gone to some different regiments that aren't

2137
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 29: in that family of the percosets, hydrocoding and things like that.

2138
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 29: But if you are prescribed those, I mean, it's usually

2139
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 29: a big warning on the bottle, do not drive, It

2140
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 29: may cause drowsiness, Do this, may do that. So you know,

2141
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 29: we assist our student athletes to making sure that they're

2142
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 29: managing whatever our physicians give them, to make sure that

2143
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 29: they don't put themselves in a situation. And certainly, and

2144
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 29: you're reading some of these cases, especially in you know,

2145
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 29: the upper alcohol the adult athlete, you know, PGA, NFL, NBA,

2146
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 29: where they'll be like, well, you know, they not just

2147
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 29: had a narcotic in their system, but had alcohol or

2148
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 29: they had.

2149
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 5: Some other substance.

2150
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 29: Anytime you start mixing products, you're asking for nothing but problems.

2151
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 29: And of course none of us really know what was

2152
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 29: in you know, his system, because we're going to keep

2153
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 29: that hippo compliant and pretty well hushed. But again, you know,

2154
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 29: people need to get tuned into the fact that you know,

2155
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 29: the side effects of narcotics are just opioids are just

2156
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 29: so bad that you know, you've got to come up

2157
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 29: with the different pain management strategy. And if you do

2158
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,919
Speaker 29: go on them, then you have to have somebody really

2159
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 29: watching them, you know, not just hey, here's a bottle

2160
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 29: and you've been through it with us to where you know,

2161
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 29: we help you guide your way through it. And as

2162
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 29: soon as we get to day X, know, hey, let's

2163
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 29: just go to extra strint tithanol, or let's go to motrin,

2164
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 29: or let's go to this and even those medications tithe

2165
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 29: it all interesting studies several years back that if you

2166
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,719
Speaker 29: take twelve time in all day greater than eleven days,

2167
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 29: you can start to see liver changes. If you take

2168
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 29: motrin in an eight hundred level motron for more than

2169
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 29: you know, ten days, eleven days, fourteen days, you can

2170
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 29: start to see change in your gastric system. And you know,

2171
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 29: I have got my share of horror stories of athletes

2172
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 29: who won't follow our direction and we'll give them a

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01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 29: certain medication.

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Speaker 5: But oh lo and behold, they're.

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01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 29: Going to go over to cross and buy a big

2176
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 29: old bottle of two hundred and fifty milligram motrin and

2177
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 29: stop start popping, you know, six seven eight motron a

2178
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 29: day and so it's going to blow your stomach out

2179
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 29: and then the next thing you know, you know, you're

2180
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 29: losing twenty pounds, you know, feeling well, your stomach is

2181
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 29: you know, literally got ulcers. So you know, and it's

2182
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 29: all over the news, you know, the number of people

2183
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 29: who have issues with the pain medications after surgery in

2184
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 29: a lot of positions have finally said, hey, enough's enough.

2185
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 29: You know, here, we'll give you this, you know, we'll

2186
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 29: give you ask and why and that combination you know,

2187
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:40,440
Speaker 29: should work, you know, And it's like in how many

2188
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 29: times you know, we would offer an athlete if they

2189
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 29: needed some sort of pain suppression on game day, you know,

2190
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 29: combined that with emotion, with some time.

2191
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 5: At all, and you know, that's it.

2192
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 29: No more, I'm a narcotic because you can't risk that,

2193
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 29: especially during the game. That should never ever happen in

2194
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 29: industry because, like I said, the f game multiple years

2195
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 29: ago has really come down on the use of opioids

2196
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 29: narcotic type medications during participation because it's it's way too risky.

2197
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 3: How do you go about if if there is an

2198
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 3: athlete that that you can tell that is now past

2199
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 3: that point of should be taking them and perhaps still is.

2200
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 3: And and I know it's it's obviously not easy, because

2201
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 3: addiction is not easy. But what are the steps that

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01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 3: that would you would take if you're kind of over

2203
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,839
Speaker 3: that threshold with an athlete and you know they're still

2204
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 3: using those those painkillers, what what kind of steps do

2205
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 3: you have to take after that?

2206
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:48,839
Speaker 29: Well, that's where you know, athletic trainers are valuable in college,

2207
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 29: high school level, and professional level because we hopefully know

2208
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 29: pretty much what the athletes are taking and if we

2209
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 29: see a situation to where we feel like it's being

2210
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 29: used in an excessive amount, we're going to sit down

2211
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 29: with the team physicians, orthopedic primary care and we're going

2212
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 29: to say, look, you know, here's a strategy we need

2213
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 29: to get off of this.

2214
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 2: We need to do that.

2215
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 29: We have used psychologists in the past, we have used

2216
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 29: pain management physicians in the past, you know, and again

2217
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 29: you're trying to have a team approach of people who

2218
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 29: can help this person. You know, wean off of them

2219
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 29: or get an understanding of here are other options. Let's

2220
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 29: keep a close eye on it and try these other options.

2221
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 29: So I think you're not just going to have one

2222
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 29: person say hey, you got to be done. This is it,

2223
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 29: it's over. You've got to have the whole team there,

2224
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 29: you know, wherever they're I mean, if it's cecil therapists involved,

2225
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 29: and you have a sycil therapist, trainer, the primary care

2226
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 29: team physician, the orthopedic surgeon, the team's counselor so that

2227
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 29: everybody together is pulling the boat in the right direction

2228
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 29: and helping this person to get off them, because the

2229
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 29: reason they get hooked on them is because you know, one,

2230
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 29: we're asking to play sports. Sports is an industry where

2231
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 29: you are going to get hurt, and then how do

2232
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 29: we continue to have you participate un surgical while you're

2233
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 29: still on you're going some low levels of pain or

2234
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 29: medium levels of pain. And I know there's a lot

2235
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 29: of people out there saying, well, they shouldn't be playing

2236
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 29: at all, when there's kids who don't even tell us

2237
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 29: what they're feeling or what they're like. And so we're

2238
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 29: we're sometimes not sometimes most of the time we're at

2239
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 29: the mercy of the athlete telling us exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 9: And of course we can.

2241
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 5: Do blood work.

2242
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 29: We've done that blood work just to make sure what

2243
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 29: the levels are, what your kidneys are, what your liver

2244
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 29: is and I tend to be a little more aggressive

2245
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 29: with that in terms of if I feel one of

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01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 29: my student athletes are, you know, maybe using something a

2247
01:50:59,120 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 29: little more than I.

2248
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 5: Will them too.

2249
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 29: Uh, we can get the blood work and check different

2250
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 29: levels within the blood, the kidney system, liver system, and

2251
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 29: make sure that they're not causing themselves to.

2252
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 5: Have a problem. And I'm also not.

2253
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 29: One to say, hey, look, if we can't manage this,

2254
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 29: you're done playing until we all come to a plan

2255
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 29: that allows you to participate without any of this, you know,

2256
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 29: And again that's one of the dangers of playing sports

2257
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 29: is you're going to get hurt. And when you get hurt,

2258
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 29: you're going to look for methods of relieving my quote

2259
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 29: unquote pain that yet still compete. And it's funny, Tony,

2260
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 29: it's not just the professional athlete, the college athlete. I

2261
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 29: had a patient come in two weeks ago. Well, I'm

2262
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 29: playing pickleball. You know, everybody's playing pickaball today. I love pickleball.

2263
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 29: It's making me more patients.

2264
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 2: Than anything in the world right now.

2265
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,679
Speaker 29: And the bottom line is, you know, well, my foot's

2266
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 29: been hurt and so I've just been loaned up on

2267
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 29: time and all, and I said, wait a minute, let's

2268
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 29: call doctor X and you get an X ray and

2269
01:51:58,920 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 29: sure enough, you broke your foot.

2270
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 9: Yep, So you can take all the time and all.

2271
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 29: You want, and you've been trying to play through it

2272
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 29: for three weeks. And the bottom line is it's not

2273
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,759
Speaker 29: just professional athletes through the college athletes.

2274
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 5: It's the day to day.

2275
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 29: Recreational athlete who want to treat themselves and start taking

2276
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 29: stuff and then the next thing, you know, they never

2277
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 29: get it diagnosed right, and now it becomes a pretty

2278
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 29: big problem for him.

2279
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 3: That too, like And to me, there's such a fine

2280
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 3: line because it's one thing, Okay, you have a surgery,

2281
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 3: you kind of have a roadmap of when that pain

2282
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 3: is going to last. The hard part for me is

2283
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 3: playing through pain for a lot of players, because there

2284
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 3: are players, and you know that's very well. You know,

2285
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 3: there are players that don't want to diagnose an injury

2286
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 3: or don't want to diagnose a concussion because that would

2287
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 3: mean they're going to lose their spot while they're recovering

2288
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 3: and they may never get that spot back. So how

2289
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 3: difficult is that line to walk of player wants to play,

2290
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 3: he needs something to get through the pain to play

2291
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 3: and you don't want to put him at risk for

2292
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 3: a greater injury versus, yes, we can give something to

2293
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 3: alleviate some of the pain or block some of the

2294
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 3: pain until a certain amount of time. How hard is

2295
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 3: that line to navigate because all of these athletes want

2296
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 3: to go out there and compete, and you want them

2297
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 3: to be open with you about how they feel. But

2298
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 3: at the same time, you don't want them to just

2299
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 3: the clure to hide something because it could mean less

2300
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 3: playing time.

2301
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 9: That's a really fine line.

2302
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 5: And you know, number one.

2303
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 29: Thing we say in healthcare, especially in athletics.

2304
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 5: Really throughout every level.

2305
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 29: Of athletics is, you know.

2306
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,879
Speaker 5: Do not do more harm.

2307
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 29: So the bottom line is, if I've got an athlete who,

2308
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 29: let's say, has a very minor injury and they just

2309
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 29: need a little bit of help getting through it, there

2310
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 29: are options at a low level, you know, lower level

2311
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 29: type of medications. Once it gets to the point where, hey,

2312
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 29: if we let you play today, sure I can give

2313
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 29: you this medication, but you know we're now going to

2314
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 29: risk making it worse. So and again not to be

2315
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 29: you know, idealistic about it. You know, we never want

2316
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 29: anybody to play with pain per se. But we know

2317
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 29: that that's not the case. So you have to work

2318
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 29: with your physicians. You have to work with the athlete

2319
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 29: and say what's the safest medication to give to allow

2320
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 29: them to feel comfortable to participate. But the athlete is

2321
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 29: part of that equation, a major part of that equation,

2322
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 29: because they might come like you said, you know, I mean,

2323
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 29: let's be honest, I love you to death. You're one

2324
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 29: of the toughest quarterbacks we had here, and you'd get

2325
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 29: on my butt if I if myself or Colosimo didn't

2326
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 29: find a way to get you in the game.

2327
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 5: And there were things that we helped you.

2328
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 29: With to get through it. And again here you are,

2329
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 29: how many years later being a successful radio broadcaster, and

2330
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 29: we didn't no harm in the long run. So you know,

2331
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 29: that's what we have to sit and do is we

2332
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 29: have to look at what is the injury, How can

2333
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 29: we prote dissipate?

2334
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 9: What would you like us to do, athlete?

2335
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 29: And then hey, here are options? What level do you

2336
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 29: want to try? But you're in the game. What do

2337
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 29: you think I'm doing? I mean, how many times you

2338
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 29: and I have conferences conversations on the field with Hey,

2339
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 29: how one today. Are you so okay?

2340
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: Can you do this?

2341
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 5: Can you do that?

2342
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 16: You know you and I.

2343
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 29: Remember that South Florida game, and you know, the bottom

2344
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 29: line is, you know, you ended up having another injury.

2345
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 29: But the bottom line is at the end of the day,

2346
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 29: in the long run, you.

2347
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 9: Did just fine.

2348
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 29: It's just, you know, there's always what's my favorite other

2349
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 29: saying in athletics, my job is to fix you up

2350
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 29: for you to go out and do it again. Yep, okay,

2351
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 29: So but again, our number one point is we want

2352
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 29: to find a way to put the athletes on the field,

2353
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 29: on the court successfully obviously having them participate in the

2354
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 29: decision making, but do no harm.

2355
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 3: Bob man Jean, the University of Cincinnati and Novacare You're

2356
01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 3: the best. Bob, have a great weekend. We'll talk again

2357
01:55:59,640 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 3: next week.

2358
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Tony.

2359
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 3: That is Bob Manjean, University of Cincinnati Novercare look. Finding

2360
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Speaker 3: When you Shaw, Welcome back Cincy, three sixty. Moeger standing

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Speaker 3: by in Indianapolis will join us for quick hits in

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Speaker 3: just a few moments. Before we get to any of that,

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Speaker 3: here is that if Nick Lodolo left his first rehab

2379
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Speaker 3: start yesterday due to a flare up of the blister

2380
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Speaker 3: on his left index finger. After retiring his first eight

2381
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Speaker 3: batters on forty pitchers, striking out four, he exited the

2382
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Speaker 3: game with two outs in the third inning, and as

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith told us earlier today Austin, He's gonna go

2384
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Speaker 3: to Texas and they're gonna meet and everything's on the table.

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01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lodolo is in Texas and has already talked to

2386
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 4: the media, Charlie just a few minutes ago saying that

2387
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 4: Lodolo feels very frustrated, and he said he has tried

2388
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 4: every known remedy and we'll keep experimenting. He has to

2389
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 4: be able to compete at this level, and not being

2390
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 4: able to spin your slider impacts that he hopes to

2391
01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 4: play catch in the next day or two. Okay, so, oh,

2392
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 4: I don't know. I wish I understood more about you know,

2393
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 4: why are you playing catch?

2394
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: Right? Let's just shut it down for a couple of days.

2395
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't understand that.

2396
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 3: I guess maybe in catch you doesn't need to cut

2397
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 3: off that breaking ball at all.

2398
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 4: I guess keep the arm loose, keep the shoulder and

2399
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 4: the elbow all right.

2400
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

2401
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 3: That is today's O'Connor and Shotty and Levy injury report.

2402
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 3: We run through a couple more of these UH draft comparisons.

2403
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 3: Let me just give you a list of NFL players,

2404
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 3: and you tell me which of these players you would

2405
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 3: insert on today's Bengals roster to make them better immediately.

2406
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 4: You ready, I thought we were doing comparisons. These are,

2407
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 4: but I'm just gonna give you the comparisons. Oh, you're

2408
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 4: giving me the current NFL players or former yes?

2409
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, So listen to these names and

2410
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 3: tell me who makes the Bengals better or the best

2411
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 3: right now?

2412
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 2: Okay?

2413
01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 3: Reggie Bush, I'm and Ross Saint Brown yes, Cooper Cup yes,

2414
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 3: Vernon Davis yes, Darnell right, Nick Benito yes, Abdull Carter yes,

2415
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 3: Fred Warner yes, Christian Gonzales yes, Trent McDuffie yes, Buddha

2416
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 3: Baker yes.

2417
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 2: Okay. What's one of those players would you rather? Would

2418
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 2: you want the most? Probably? Nick Benito? Okay?

2419
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 3: Nick Benito's comparison in this year's draft. R vel Reese Al,

2420
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, not r vel Reese. David Bailey. R vel

2421
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 3: Reese has comped to Abdul Carter.

2422
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 2: Not bad.

2423
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 4: I would say more Micah Parsons, but okay, Sonny Styles,

2424
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 4: Fred Warner, yeah, please. Jamal McCoy is Christian Gonzales?

2425
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 2: All right? Mansor Delaine is Trent McDuffie. So you're calling

2426
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 2: him Delaine today?

2427
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 5: Yep.

2428
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 3: I've went back after listening to others Francis Maluiino, you

2429
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 3: can finally take coaching. Francis Maliinoa.

2430
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 4: Darnell right, yeah, darnelt right, that's an that's an interesting one.

2431
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 4: He's he's okay, he's fine. And I feel like, from

2432
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 4: a Bengal perspective, you'd ask me you can have Darnell right.

2433
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 4: I guess I would say yes, just because of the

2434
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 4: youth and the upside.

2435
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't know though, left tackle right not right tackle? Yea, yeah,

2436
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 2: what about uh?

2437
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm in Ross Saint Brown and mackay Lemon Beast, Cooper

2438
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 3: Cup and Carnell Tate. And then of course Jeremiah Love

2439
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 3: is Reggie Bush. I mean those are so really that's

2440
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 3: what he is, like, those are some those are some

2441
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 3: serious comparisons to put on these first rounders.

2442
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they don't.

2443
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 4: They don't necessarily do comparisons to guys like, you know,

2444
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 4: mid level dudes.

2445
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 3: Imagine, like all due respect, imagine like Jeremiah Love, who's

2446
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 3: like a mid level running back like your player comp is, Yeah,

2447
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 3: this player man Kenneth Gainwell.

2448
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, cool.

2449
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,839
Speaker 4: I don't really say, hey, you know, this guy reminds

2450
02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 4: me of Joe Giles Harris.

2451
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen very often. I would take any of

2452
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 2: these player comparisons in a hard and see Stead let's

2453
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 2: compare him to a Hall of Famer. Let me just

2454
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:09,160
Speaker 2: throw Nick Benito out there.

2455
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 4: Davis is a little bit of that like he was. Yeah,

2456
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 4: he had some elite.

2457
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 3: Years, But I mean sure, I think I think Kansas

2458
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 3: City should go get him. Kenyon cool, go get him

2459
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 3: Kansas City and maybe the Bengals. Now, what I did

2460
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 3: like about Charlie earlier is he he seemed a little

2461
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 3: bit open to the idea of moving up in the draft.

2462
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 2: We should all be open to it everyone.

2463
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 3: Right, we should, especially down there at pay Corps. We're

2464
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 3: going to Indianapolis next. Mo is standing by at the

2465
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Final four. We're gonna talk to him and what he's

2466
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 3: got coming up on his show this afternoon right here

2467
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station w k.

2468
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 1: Now, it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes

2469
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 1: since he.

2470
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 3: Was looking for we got Mo just not here in

2471
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 3: the studio. You know, we go to Indianapolis for Moagger

2472
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 3: who outside of the Final Four?

2473
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 2: What's going on?

2474
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 29: Mo?

2475
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:09,080
Speaker 8: I just talked to Wes Miller. Really, yeah, Wes is

2476
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 8: in the house is in Wes is doing some interviews.

2477
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 8: He very politely declined to come on the air. Oh,

2478
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 8: but I talked with him for about five minutes, and

2479
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 8: it was it was nice to see him.

2480
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:20,920
Speaker 2: How's he doing?

2481
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,320
Speaker 4: Did you ask him if he's heard from North Carolina today?

2482
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 8: I did not ask him that. He was very cordial.

2483
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 8: He was very nice. He was very complimentary to your

2484
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 8: show and mine. Wow, and said that we treated him

2485
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 8: fairly okay, and said I'm rooting for you, Wes.

2486
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 2: So yes, it was we're all forty nine fans here.

2487
02:02:40,520 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 8: We're all forty nine er fans. So he walked away.

2488
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 8: I made a vow to myself last year that in

2489
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 8: like the second half of my life, or maybe the

2490
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 8: final third of my life, whatever it is, I'm going

2491
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 8: to be like, I'm going to be more shameless, okay,

2492
02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 8: because the people that I know who seem to have

2493
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 8: gotten ahead, you know they're there, they're shameless about asking

2494
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 8: for stuff. So like, I want to go to the

2495
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 8: games tomorrow, and so you have all these coaches around,

2496
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 8: and I figured, like I'm gonna start asking them, like

2497
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 8: can I have your tickets?

2498
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 2: Nice?

2499
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 8: Could I have your final four tickets? Because I I

2500
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 8: think these games tomorrow night are gonna be awesome. Everybody's

2501
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 8: excited to go, so every coach gets tickets. I thought

2502
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 8: I would ask for tickets because there's like you can't

2503
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 8: turn around without running into a basketball coach. Or I

2504
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 8: would ask, you know, will you send me some gear?

2505
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 8: And so there's Wes who I'm sure has no use

2506
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 8: for all his you see gear, and I just let

2507
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 8: them walk away without asking, So.

2508
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 2: You're over one.

2509
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 4: I did see a post on social media that somebody

2510
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 4: went to a good will and found a lot of

2511
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 4: his gear.

2512
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 2: Really, yeash, I don't know if it's true. What are

2513
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 2: we doing?

2514
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 4: But it appeared to be stuff that was Wes Miller's.

2515
02:03:57,280 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 8: He was loved to go, he had some obligation at

2516
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 8: the convention. And maybe I'll see if I can run

2517
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 8: them down and just ask for either his tickets to

2518
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 8: the game yeah tomorrow, the two games tomorrow, or if

2519
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 8: I can get my hands on some.

2520
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 2: Of his gear.

2521
02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 3: Now, outside of your running with Wes Miller, do you

2522
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 3: have anyone else scheduled between three and six o'clock to

2523
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 3: join you?

2524
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 2: Jared Calhoun's going to be here, how about this?

2525
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 5: Now?

2526
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 8: Do I ask him for his tickets or for some gear.

2527
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 3: Well, he should be on the recruiting trail anyway, so

2528
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 3: he shouldn't spend time at the game.

2529
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 8: Well, I don't get right like these coaches, they'll they'll say,

2530
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 8: like I get tickets, I don't go. I'm not going

2531
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 8: to the final four list. I'm coaching at it. So

2532
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 8: what they can't sell them? Yeah, so surely one of

2533
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 8: these coaches has I just I need one. I'm here

2534
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 8: by myself.

2535
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay, if they give tickets to you, can you sell them?

2536
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 8: I could? I could, so I don't have to come home.

2537
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 8: This one's for Austin. Jake Diebler is gonna stop.

2538
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, yes.

2539
02:04:55,920 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 8: So not sure I want his gear, but Austin May.

2540
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd fit in it. But yeah, well.

2541
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't need like his gear off

2542
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 8: his back. He's not leaving programs gear like you know,

2543
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 8: would he see you? Would he throw some Ohio State

2544
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 8: stuff in the mail.

2545
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm excited that you get to talk about Bruce Thorton.

2546
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 8: I am because I like Bruce Thornton. And actually we

2547
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 8: interviewed uh. I interviewed Trey Carrol yesterday, which was cool

2548
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 8: and Trey I said to him before the interview started,

2549
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 8: and I'm like, I'm a big uc guy and he's like,

2550
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, and I go, you sorry, I mean you see, guys, No,

2551
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 8: I'm sorry for what I did. Like okay, but Bruce

2552
02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 8: Thornton was here and I missed him.

2553
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 2: You should ask him.

2554
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:40,480
Speaker 3: You should ask Deeves about maybe upgrading the uh the

2555
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 3: end of game plays with four seconds on the clock,

2556
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 3: getting maybe some better looks.

2557
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a good question.

2558
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 3: Now, among all the the the craziness, do you think

2559
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:56,879
Speaker 3: anywhere in attendance you'll find some blister experts?

2560
02:05:57,560 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 12: You know?

2561
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 8: It's It's funny because I sitting in the hotel room

2562
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 8: this morning kind of jotting down some ideas for next week,

2563
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 8: and I wrote down skincare expert. I found a video,

2564
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 8: and I don't know if you guys have used this.

2565
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 8: I found a video from twenty sixteen of Al Lighter,

2566
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 8: who famously threw the two head shot out against the

2567
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 8: Mets in the ninety nine Game one sixty three. And

2568
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 8: there's an eight minute video of him and I haven't

2569
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,000
Speaker 8: had time to watch it, an eight minute video of

2570
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 8: him providing advice on how he used to deal with blisters,

2571
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 8: So I may, by the way, are we now calling

2572
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 8: Nicklodola mister blister?

2573
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: I think so okay, still naturally moist at the moment.

2574
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 8: So I might see if I can mind this al

2575
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:48,160
Speaker 8: lighter video for content, but also I'll send it to

2576
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 8: Nick Lidolo so he could.

2577
02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:52,320
Speaker 2: And maybe kemedy for his blister issues.

2578
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 3: Reach out to al and see how the Reds can

2579
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 3: best attack Jack later this weekend.

2580
02:06:57,640 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 8: B that's a good call.

2581
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,760
Speaker 3: With Nick Loodolo and the uncertainty and really everything being

2582
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 3: on the table here, you want to make it call

2583
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 3: to Trevor Bauer because he's back in the news.

2584
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 2: He's going to pitch in the minors.

2585
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 5: So.

2586
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 8: Many aren't gonna like this comparison. Colin Kaepernick left the

2587
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 8: NFL at the end of the twenty sixteen season, and

2588
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 8: in the first couple of years after he left, there

2589
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 8: were very good arguments that he could still help a team.

2590
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 8: You know, say, what do you want about his stance

2591
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:35,200
Speaker 8: that he took the kneeling like it was impossible to

2592
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 8: really convince anybody then that he's not one of the

2593
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 8: sixty four best human beings to play quarterback on the planet.

2594
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 8: But with the passage of time, you stopped looking at

2595
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 8: him as a viable option because it had been so

2596
02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 8: long since he had played, And so even if you

2597
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 8: had no issue with what he had done, it was

2598
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 8: just hard from a football perspective to go, you know what,

2599
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 8: this guy who hasn't played in five or six years

2600
02:07:58,040 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 8: is going to help our team. The same way about

2601
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 8: Trevor Bower. Trevor Bower last pitched in a big league

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02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 8: game in twenty twenty one. That is forever ago. He's

2603
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 8: in his mid thirties. He may do something with the

2604
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 8: Long Island Ducks that compels someone to believe that he

2605
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 8: can get major league hitters out. I'm skeptical that he

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02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 8: could do that, and so now it's less of a

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02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 8: conversation about what he did and what may or may

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02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 8: not have happened to him, depending on your perspective, and

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02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 8: to me, it's more of a discussion about his age

2610
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 8: and how long it's been since he's actually pitched in

2611
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 8: a big league game.

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02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 3: The folks at speaking of Jared Calhoun, the folks at

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02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 3: Bearcat Journal have uncovered his contract with the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this mo The contract includes ticket benefits for

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02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 3: men's and women's basketball.

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02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 8: Foot the final four? How about the final four?

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02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 3: Nothing in there about that? A relocation stipend, a monthly

2618
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 3: vehicle stipend, and a membership at a local country club.

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02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you would have added if you

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02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 3: were Jared Calhoun?

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02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:00,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean the country club and the vehicle stipend. That's

2623
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 3: big time stuff there.

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02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 8: Vehicle stipends, big country club, I guess is cool? If

2625
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 8: you're him? Are you really playing like communi courses? So

2626
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 8: I get it, you're the head coach of a big

2627
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 8: twelve team. You know you're not. You're not schlepping out

2628
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 8: to Twin Oaks or Newman or you know those. Oh

2629
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 8: I'm a public course guys. I don't know. I don't

2630
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 8: know what else there would be, Like how much vacation?

2631
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 2: Does he get a good question?

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02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 4: What I don't understand is like do they really have

2633
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 4: time to use a membership a country club membership?

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02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 5: Well?

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02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 2: The thing is like, is they work really hard? As

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02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 2: you know?

2637
02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 8: Of course, I'm sure he has to play a lot

2638
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 8: of golf with people who can fund the program. True,

2639
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 8: but like those level of people, aren't you playing at

2640
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 8: whatever course you want?

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02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 3: And then maybe you know you can maybe the kids

2642
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:52,920
Speaker 3: and the wife. Maybe that's good for the country club.

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02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 3: They can go to the pool and stuff like that.

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02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 8: Country clubs like you have to like spend a minimum

2645
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 8: amount of money to like eat and stuff like that. Right,

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02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 8: But I don't know anything about the country club life.

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02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 8: That's just not something that I that resonates with me.

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02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:09,080
Speaker 8: I would wonder about the how much vacation does he get?

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02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:12,120
Speaker 2: Good point? You're there before we let you go.

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Speaker 8: Let me ask you this, And I guess the guys

2651
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 8: at Bearcat Journal have looked into this. What bonuses are

2652
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 8: in place for postseason advancement, because remember that was a

2653
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 8: big deal with John Brann and there was no bonus

2654
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 8: for winning a tournament game. There was a bonus for

2655
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:27,400
Speaker 8: winning two tournament games. Off the top of my head,

2656
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:29,440
Speaker 8: I don't know what point is I could have asked.

2657
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 2: Him, we have to look at that before we let

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02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 2: you go. Who do you like tomorrow?

2659
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 29: Now?

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02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 8: I like Illinois man, and I've talked about this on

2661
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 8: this show and ran it past a couple of people

2662
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 8: we had yesterday. I love how they out Houston Houston,

2663
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 8: and that was sort of the last question about them,

2664
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 8: like can they defend at a really high level, and

2665
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,839
Speaker 8: I think playing Iowa and Yukon are sort of similar,

2666
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:53,520
Speaker 8: though I think Yukon's better and I like what Illinois

2667
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 8: did to them in the second half. I think Illinois

2668
02:10:55,440 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 8: is going to play Michigan. No result in that second

2669
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 8: game is going to surprise anybody, I guess, aside from

2670
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 8: a blowout. But I thought Michigan was going to win

2671
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 8: this thing at the outset. I still believe they do.

2672
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 3: Don't forget West Miller beat that team in a scrimmage.

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02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,960
Speaker 2: That's true, So don't forget that.

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02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 5: No.

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02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 8: I wish I could get him on the air.

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02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 3: Oh, have a ask about some of that gear yep

2677
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 3: and the Michigan game.

2678
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 8: And his tickets and how to beat the Wolverine.

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Speaker 2: Good luck on your ticket hunt and have a great show.

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02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:27,919
Speaker 3: Mo would appreciate it. Having good weekend. That is Moegar.

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Speaker 3: This has been since he three sixty. The Mowagar Show

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02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:32,840
Speaker 3: next ONNYESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Happy Easter, Have a great weekend.