1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. You cram a lot into two hours, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: which we're having to do today. Tomorrow's show will be 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: even shorter. By the way, Tennessee just polished off Auburn 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: seventy two to sixty two. Tigers were in control of 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: that game and then they weren't. That is that is 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: good news for the Miami RedHawks, who unfortunately lost today 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: their first loss of the season, suffered at the hands 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: of UMass in Cleveland Mac Tournament eighty seven to eighty three. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: The prevailing sentiment is that the RedHawks are still going 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: to be in. But I wanted to bring on the 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Tri States resident bracketologist. He's no longer just the official 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: bracketologist of this show, NKY bracketology dot com our guy 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Hunter Sansom and kind enough to join us. The RedHawks 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: are still in, right The. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: RedHawks are still in the tournament as of right now, Yes, 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: are they playing in Dayton. I want to see everything 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: update and kind of everything happened today before I say 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: definitely yes or no. But as of right now I 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: have them above Dayton, but they're my first team not 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: in Dayton at this time. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: How much does Auburn losing help it very much, so 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: helps just watch them lose. 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Gave up like a twenty nothing run here at the 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: end of the game to fall apart against Tennessee. Auburn 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: is below Miami at this point. 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Who still is playing that RedHawks fans should be paying 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: attention to. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: So anybody on the eight nine ten lines are teams 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: that you all should be paying attention to. For Miami, apologies, 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: my computer restarted, but VCU comes up tomorrow. I think 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: Missouri's out, yeah, I mean other than that, realistically, a 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: lot of these bubble teams are done. You can look 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: at the Mountain West teams, you'r New Mexico, your San 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Diego States, But other than that, there's not much left 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: out there on the bubble. Seaton Hall is still playing 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: in the Big East, but they have to win the 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: conference to get in, so they wouldn't necessarily affect Miami 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: a ton, but definitely want Ukon Saint John's Villanova to 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: win that conference. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday and well, I should say Tuesday and Wednesday were 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: filled with bubble teams not winning. How much? How much 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: do things get changed if even for Miami specifically, if 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: even a handful of those teams win games. 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: We're probably having a completely different conversation about them at 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: least being in Dayton and being kind of locked into 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: that Dayton or worse. But I mean, with all of 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: this carnage that we've had along the bubble, you can't 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: tell me a team one game above five hundred should 49 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: be in over a team that went thirty one and 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: one at this point. 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: They lose a four point game today on a neutral court. 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: If today's loss had been more lobsided, would that have 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: factored into their candidacy? 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: I think so to an extent. However, with Miami, it's 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: never about the predictive metrics, which is really where that 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: the margin plays in. I think for Miami it's all 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: about just how strong that resume is, how strong the 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: record is, and I mean this six Q four loss 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: jump up to Q three, But I don't think margin 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: necessarily will be a big issue. That could have been 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: worse for sure. 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: All Right, So as of right now, we have the 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: RedHawks in the Dance and not playing in Dayton. So 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: if they're not playing in Dayton and they fall because 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: the team are two wins, it's hard for me to believe. 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: And you know a lot more about this process than 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: I do that they go from team number sixty four 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: to team number sixty nine. Is that a okay way 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: of looking at it? 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: I want to say yes. Right now, I'm going to 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: have them sixty four ish is about right, sixty three 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: sixty four, but I think they're in. But I have 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: trouble necessarily seeing them fall that far. It's definitely possible 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: at this point. But the committee, I mean again, we've 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: never had a team with this mini wins not make 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: the tournament. This is not the season to start picking 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: that kind of team to leave out. 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we hear the term weak bubble every year, 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: but this year feels historically weak. Would you agree? 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: I agree? And the data back set up when you 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: start looking at cross comparing, and I won't get super 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: into the weeds, but when you cross compare like efficiencies 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: and these types of things, the top thirty teams are 84 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: just over heels better than the rest of the country, 85 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: and it's really affected just. 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: How good the bubble is. 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: It's the weakest bubble I've ever seen. 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Do the net ratings matter less this year than previous years? 89 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Great question and something I get all the time on 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: social media. The net ranking does not actually matter other 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: than getting you split into your quadrant rankings, your resume 92 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: and your predictive metrics are what matter. There are six 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: of them. 94 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: I will have a. 95 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Video out this evening explaining that breakdown on bracket in 96 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: Ky on Twitter, and it'll be up on my website. 97 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: I would strongly suggest everybody watch that. But they matter. 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: The net does not necessarily matter a ton. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard the term wins above bubble 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: this year more than any other year. What is wins 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: above bubble? 102 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Whin's about bubble is actually a great new metric. It's 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: on the newer side, invented I think ty fifteen, and 104 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: it's basically, if you're a positive wins above bubble, then 105 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: that means you are two or three or whatever the 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: number is wins above what they would expect a traditional 107 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: Bubble team in this year's tournament to be. So for Miami, 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: they were roughly two wins above bubble this morning. That 109 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: means that they had won two more games than you 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: would expect an average Bubble team to win. 111 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Now, of course they lost. 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: I think this is going to hurt them about half 113 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: a game two point seventy five games, so it will 114 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: knock them down a little bit, but they still stay 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: above what a typical bubble team would do. 116 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Given the fact that nobody else seemed to want to 117 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: grab a bid yesterday and on Tuesday, torture me. Had 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: Cincinnati held on to beat UCF, would they be in 119 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: the field. 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: In the field, maybe not, but they would have at 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: least had a shot to jump up. With how everything 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: played out, without having seen what their wins above bubble 123 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: or strength, the record would have moved to. It's really 124 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: hard for me to give you yes or a no, 125 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: but I want to say they might have been. 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: What can Kentucky do with their seed if they win 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: tomorrow and then keep winning after beating Florida. 128 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: I think it's sixth seed is Kentucky's ceiling. We've seen 129 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: the committee not necessarily always value the conference tournaments, especially 130 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: in the SEC with A and M a. 131 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: Couple of years back. 132 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: So I think they might jump up another seed line 133 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: or so, but I don't see them jumping out much 134 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: more than that. 135 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: Ohio State, I think deserves a lot of credit because 136 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: they've done what others haven't. Right, they've I don't know 137 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: that they needed to win today. You can correct me 138 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: on that, but with bids up for grabs. They've won 139 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: four consecutive games. What can the buck guys do for 140 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: their seed by beating Michigan tomorrow? 141 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: If they meet Michigan, eight seeds not out of the question. 142 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: I currently have them on the nine line. You could 143 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: make an argument for the eight already, and you're absolutely right. 144 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: They did not have to win today, but this definitely 145 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: helps slip by them their lowest. I think they'll be 146 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: now as an eight, but they feel like they're gonna 147 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: end up playing in that eight to nine game, which 148 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: means you're gonna be looking at the number one seed. 149 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: Indiana is not Indiana is not making the tournament correct correct? 150 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: What's the best case for Louisville? 151 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: Best case I think for Louisville, especially after today, six 152 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: se feels about right for them. I do think Kentucky 153 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: could knock them down to the seven line, though. 154 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: Is the current landscape the strongest argument against tournament expansion? 155 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know how you can look at teams 156 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: like California, Indiana, Auburn, I mean, Cincinnati. You could make 157 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: an argument played better at the end of the year, 158 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: but you can't necessarily make an argument that these teams 159 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: deserve to be in the field right now. Expanding it, 160 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: those teams would all have been in. 161 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: How do I get one of your polo shirts? 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: I will send you a DM after this. 163 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: Where can others buy one of your polo shirts? 164 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: So right now the link is floating around. I will 165 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: tweet it out after we get done here. Had some 166 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: requests for merch. So there's a polo, there's a T shirt, 167 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: and there's a hoodie and there's a wineglass onto it. 168 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: So that is linked right now. You use the code 169 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: this is March. You get ten percent off your order. 170 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: I launched it last night. I appreciate everybody's support and 171 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: everybody's been great with it. So I'll tweet that link out. 172 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: I'll tag you moos so you have it as well, 173 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: and we'll go from. 174 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: There at bracket nk Y on Twitter nky, bracketology dot com. 175 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Uh enjoy, enjoy the weekend. Man. We'll probably bother you 176 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: early next week just to see how you did versus 177 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: the actual selection commedy man, thanks so much. Sounds great, 178 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Thanks Fantas. That's our guy, Hunter sandsum Terran shows over, 179 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Yes another day, no cuts, all right, I'll pull back 180 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the curtain Tarn produces this show and does an awesome job. 181 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: And we talk about, like, here's some audio I want 182 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to use, and he goes back and he cuts up 183 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: all this audio. And I had him cut up a 184 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: bunch of audio yesterday and we didn't use it, and 185 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: then today cut up a bunch of audio and we 186 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: didn't use it. Tell me about Jonathan Allen, really quick, 187 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: solid defensive tackle. We have got rid of them. Do 188 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: the money. 189 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a second second year guy, Jaylen Redman, 190 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: who pretty much put up the same numbers. 191 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: Looks a little cheaper, all right, but he thought he 192 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: played a lot last year. It wasn't he was. It 193 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: was okay, right, yeah, okay, he'll be great alongside Bjhare. Yeah, okay, 194 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: the A and linebacker. Cause you guys are cutting the 195 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: week he'd use. You can probably get Ivan Paige Junior 196 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: if you want, let's go. He plays linebacker. Literally, anybody 197 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: who plays linebacker I will take. I don't care who 198 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: they are. I don't care if you play linebacker in 199 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: the CFL. I don't care if you play linebacker in 200 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: the USFL or the Arena League. I don't care if 201 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: you played linebacker at Oak Hills High school. Can you 202 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: play linebacker? Well? Have you played linebacker on Like a 203 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Man video game before ten yard Fight? Yes? Have you 204 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: got there and play linebacker? I could. Wouldn't go well 205 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: for the Bengals, but wouldn't go well for me. But anybody, 206 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: if you've ever played linebacker, call Duke Toven might have 207 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a job for you. 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