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Speaker 2: All right, final hour Nord win for Pa. It's vocal maintenance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he's you know, he just he went from

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Speaker 3: looking to like a poor man's George Clooney to a

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Speaker 1: And that is Lavelle Neil.

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Speaker 2: The third columnists start Tribune, coming in hot your bears.

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Speaker 2: I do want to get to your bears, of course

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Speaker 2: you do. You guys have all emerged from fifteen years

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Speaker 2: just just making knowing I contact with other Bears faithful

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Speaker 2: is now. You know, I used to worry about Packers

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Speaker 1: We're not coming out.

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Speaker 3: We're not arrogant, conceited painting or drinking miscreants like the

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Speaker 2: I think that's perfectly worded. I think I couldn't agree

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Speaker 1: You h O, B I got Brett Blakeboart's here. Now

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think I think you nailed it. That's weird

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Speaker 2: But any rate, you were in Sioux Falls covering the

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Speaker 2: curling trials. Yeah, and you hit me with first the

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you know, I met John Schuster

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Speaker 3: the Olympics. I can't rememberhere the twenty fourteen the Olympics

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Speaker 3: Some curling people get mad at me about this because

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's right next to this place, Crooked Pint, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there there's one I think down in down in

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Speaker 2: Danny Casper in an Olympic high end curling squad in there.

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Speaker 3: People don't jump on me in this because I know

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Speaker 1: Man, you know a lot about curling.

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Speaker 3: They came out of the Saint Paul Curling Club. But

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Speaker 2: I met Schuster up. We did nine and Noon did

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Speaker 3: Schuster's forty three and Casper is twenty four and his

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Speaker 2: So that's super cool. I'm I'm glad you were down there.

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Speaker 3: I had the pleasure of covering the Beijing Olympics in

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Speaker 3: This just activating me because there are thirty Minnesotas on

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Speaker 3: Me, we're not going. We're not going to Italy this year.

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Speaker 2: In the state. Oh that's awesome, man, I'm glad you did.

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Speaker 2: of I mean, first of all, all respect Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 3: I just like the fact that there's improvement and it

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Speaker 3: They've got a chance to win every game they play in. Now,

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Speaker 3: Bears have been in the last place in the division

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Speaker 3: But to continue Bears fan line here, the Bears don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, that's fine. Nine, But they won it

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Speaker 3: It's because the defense hasn't been whole, and you like

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Speaker 2: So he can walk the streets in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know, he's talked about walking the streets and

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, I was just I think it is. I

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Speaker 1: No, he gets beat.

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Speaker 3: But but he's got I think he's got four picks.

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Speaker 3: He's got fubber recoveries. You know, he's got the flashy

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Speaker 3: Allen's been able to figure this out.

437
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Speaker 2: But it was smart though, because they played the can

438
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Speaker 2: contain game a lot with McCarthy and you know, I'm

439
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Speaker 2: still trying to figure out what I think of Will

440
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Speaker 2: Fries at the guard spot. There were on one where

441
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Speaker 2: he nearly threw a third interception and Addison had to

442
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: come back and play defensive back. And I think it

443
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Speaker 2: was Stevenson and Brisker maybe that were they collided and

444
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 2: one of them was kind of hurt, like hurt his

445
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: own Remember that play yet, But Fries got knocked back

446
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 2: seven bleeping yards into McCarthy's lap, and if you look

447
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Speaker 2: at the situation, that wasn't a spot where he really

448
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 2: had any I think it had to be part of

449
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Speaker 2: the game plan with Dennis Allen where he's like, I'm

450
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Speaker 2: not letting you get out because there was not a

451
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Speaker 2: lot of room for him to get nimble and negotiate

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Speaker 2: if the interior.

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Speaker 1: Of the pocket was collapsing. I don't think the Bears

454
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Speaker 1: blitzed a lot. I know, I know they didn't. Flores

455
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Speaker 1: was Flores.

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Speaker 3: Someone said that they clear he flit seventy percent of

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Speaker 3: the time against Caleb.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Eric Wilson was trying to live in the backfield

459
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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, because he did not blitz Caleb

461
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Speaker 3: in week one, all of a sudden, he brought the

462
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Speaker 3: funk last week and it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: No, it's what Caleb wasn't great either.

464
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Speaker 3: He he he over he overcooked some throws and missed

465
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Speaker 3: some guys who were open. JJ's just throwing fastball at

466
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Speaker 3: the fastball. He reminds me of Joseph Ayah, the guy

467
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Speaker 3: with the Tigers at a one hundred and three mile

468
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 3: hours passball. Didn't know what's going and they didn't have

469
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Speaker 3: a secondary pitch. No need to show it every time.

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Speaker 3: He needs a secondary pitch. Man.

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Speaker 1: That's the you know. With Caleb.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I'm not impressed by Caleb Williams in

473
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Speaker 2: the respect that I think that he's a high end

474
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Speaker 2: QB at this stage.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not He's out there.

476
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: However, he's not making those mistakes. He's nearly impossible to

477
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Speaker 2: be sacked, and he does have the ability athletically and.

478
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Speaker 1: Just kind of into it.

479
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Speaker 2: Like when JJ turned the brain off and you get

480
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Speaker 2: that final drive they take the lead. JJ shows those

481
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 2: glimpses of greatness and ability. Caleb has that too, so

482
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Speaker 2: he's not giving it to the other team. He's not

483
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 2: getting sacked sixty eight times, and he's making smart plays

484
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Speaker 2: in moments, even if in the end, I mean he's

485
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Speaker 2: bailing out on some of those deep throws and he's

486
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Speaker 2: not hitting them, Thank goodness.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean the Doomsay was gone on a play.

488
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Speaker 2: If he doesn't overthrow him, DJ Moore got loose and

489
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Speaker 2: he couldn't connect. I mean, that thing could have looked

490
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: way uglier than it did. I just he's not he's

491
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Speaker 2: not ruining games for you?

492
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Speaker 3: Is that there is taker that Jay that McCarthy is.

493
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: McCarthy's been a risk taker man, he has. And I'm

494
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Speaker 3: just going on what last week's game against who you

495
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Speaker 3: guys lose to last week?

496
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Speaker 2: Not the Bears, Graves, the Ravens. Yeah, start if you

497
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Speaker 2: were counting what.

498
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Speaker 3: The TV folks claim that six of his picks were

499
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Speaker 3: on passes of trying to hit JJ Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Makes him make a seven now, So he's got seven of.

501
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Speaker 3: His picks got to Bayern, Yeah, or on throws to

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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson. So, which is weird because he's there's something

503
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: he's not doing right there? Because Jay, the other JJ

504
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: eighteen has caught passes from every freaking quarterback that KOC has.

505
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Speaker 1: Trotted out there, six or seven of them. Yes, he has,

506
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: but it's.

507
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Speaker 3: Not working out with with with with McCarthy. So why

508
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Speaker 3: do you think that he's putting the ball. He's either

509
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: overcooking the fastball again. He's not putting it a pie

510
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Speaker 3: where only Jefferson.

511
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Speaker 1: Can get it to. It's all the above.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the frustrating thing is like from game

513
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: one through game five, you're not saying there's nothing tangible

514
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: to say that he's obviously regressed. There's nothing tangible to

515
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: say that he is obviously progressed because it might be

516
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: a pace issue or lack of touch, it might be

517
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: just blatant inaccuracy. You see bits, and then you see

518
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: the drive, like manufacturing three touchdowns fourth quarter Week one.

519
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: You see what he did in the Lions game, you

520
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: open up, I mean scoring on those first two drives

521
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: meant everything in that game at Ford Field. And then

522
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Speaker 2: you see the drive that he executed when you had

523
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Speaker 2: to have it to take the lead for about fifty seconds.

524
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Speaker 1: So you see those bits, I think it's all of it.

525
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: Like on that throw that he made that was picked

526
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Speaker 2: off by Byered, I think he needs to throw it

527
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Speaker 2: a second earlier. He needs to throw it before Jefferson

528
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: gets outside the hashes, where Byered can then come and

529
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Speaker 2: kind of bail on his guy near side and actually

530
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Speaker 2: affect that play.

531
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Speaker 1: And what does he do he picks it off.

532
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Speaker 2: He's throwing it late, he's not processing it quickly, and

533
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Speaker 2: maybe you know, some of those.

534
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Speaker 1: Decisions that are being made are the wrong ones.

535
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Speaker 2: So game six, we just got to be patient with

536
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: the kid, right, It's.

537
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Speaker 1: A process, man, Trust me.

538
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Speaker 3: I've watched this with Mitch Trubisky justin fields and now

539
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: call Williams.

540
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Speaker 2: All right, that's Lavelli new the third. We're gonna pause.

541
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Speaker 2: When we come back. We are going to talk maybe

542
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: more border Battle specific because we have a diseased Packers

543
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Speaker 2: fan on the other side of the glass, and we're

544
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Speaker 2: just gonna get Lavell's thoughts on how these two teams

545
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Speaker 2: stack up.

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna talk USA Paraguay?

547
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're not talking about it. It's a big win.

548
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: Nordo World Cup twenty twenty.

549
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Speaker 1: It was a butt. It was an ass kicking. Oh

550
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Speaker 1: a five to one, I think five one and you're gray.

551
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Speaker 3: Did not have this full team, but they still had

552
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Speaker 3: some high quality players. The defensive midfield was an unholy

553
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: alliance of Manchester United playing m Suarez and is he

554
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Speaker 3: he's not No, he wasn't playing. He's like thirty eight

555
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Speaker 3: years old.

556
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Speaker 1: Just check him.

557
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Speaker 2: They didn't have swore us. Maybe that was the issue.

558
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if he is from Uruguay. That

559
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: sounds right, but I could be very very wrong. But

560
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Speaker 2: I'm going to roll with it at any rate. Uh No,

561
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: we're not gonna talk about that.

562
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: You asked me if Diego four long play for them?

563
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Speaker 3: He's like forty two now.

564
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Speaker 1: Oh but he was good off the set pieces. Are

565
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I love that guy.

566
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Speaker 2: When we return, we'll hit up some border battle and

567
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Speaker 2: continue the conversation with the Star Tribune columnist Extraordinary Levelly

568
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: Neil the Third as we continue nine to noon. All right,

569
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Speaker 2: kind of a dumb quick segment here, Leavelli Neil the

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Speaker 2: Third in studio, The Star Tribune, Thestartribune dot Com. It's

571
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Speaker 2: not dumb that Lavell's here, it's just dumb what I

572
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: planned for this particular segment. Lavell, Here's what's gonna happen.

573
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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, plan, Well, it's the border battle this weekend.

574
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Brett is a diseased Packers fan. So just an almost

575
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: like baby game the way PA would frame it up style. Uh,

576
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: you are just going to arbitray various position groups and

577
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: who's got the better mix oh really, and it's it's

578
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: nice to sit on the throne.

579
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Speaker 1: When you're team seven and three.

580
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Speaker 2: It must be nice to be able to peek your

581
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: head out and publicly proclaim to everybody that you are

582
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: indeed a Bears fan and you don't get laughed at.

583
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably points of reverence.

584
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: I stopped at the clears on the way over here,

585
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: and I was in the clears and the guy was

586
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 3: in there with a Bears had on and I said,

587
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: bear down. He said, yes, sir, So they're they're it's

588
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: safe to come out now. If you're a Bears fan

589
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: in town and.

590
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: There's a movement happening, allary iss got to be packed.

591
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: And maybe some will even try to steal some of

592
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: the love and try to become Bears Bears bars of

593
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: their own.

594
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: That's possible. I think there's I think there's one until.

595
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: They only win two down the stretch and find their

596
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: way out of the playoffs.

597
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Speaker 3: I believe it is a West Metro Bears bar somewhere.

598
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: I know East Metro's Calleries is of course the epicenter

599
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: of Bears fandom and excitement and great barbecue as well.

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00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 4: Yes, seven and three with a negative point differential, there's

601
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: a lot to be as happy about it.

602
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: That's from that's from one game and one game only. Yeah,

603
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: this is just from one game.

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00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: They all count, all right, So so simply enough here,

605
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna keep it tally here,

606
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: quick run through it.

607
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: Quarterback's pretty obvious, right, love.

608
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: Is I mean, that's okay, that's hackers.

609
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just happens to be, you know, Jacob McCarthy

610
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: think of it. If at Lilliams have to think about it?

611
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, how about this? How about this? Uh Brett,

612
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: you're running?

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Speaker 2: You have the best individual running back of the group

614
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: is Josh Jacobs.

615
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Speaker 1: Is he healthy? Causes knee?

616
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: I think he's iffy to play, no permanent damage. It

617
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: sounds like as of.

618
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: Now questionable for this week. They say it's either this

619
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Speaker 4: week or next week.

620
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: So do we go on basein what's on the roster? Now?

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be.

622
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Speaker 2: Available Sunday can go and we can go in totality

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Speaker 2: if Jacobs doesn't play, that's clearly the Vikings. Yes, I'm

624
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: thinking Jacob's is the best singular back. I agree, but

625
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: I think that the stable in Minnesota is better. If

626
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: properly utilized.

627
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually guess k properly utilized.

628
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: I didn't say it. I'm just I'm just I'm just

629
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: shooting from the lip here. Offensive line all things considered,

630
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: from Dari Saw through O'Neill book and tackles versus Rashid Walker,

631
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: who's actually acquitted himself quite nicely.

632
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Jakins is out now right.

633
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: Elkton's out of the mix is Elton. I've never pronounced

634
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: that correctly, elg ten. I've Elton, el a gun el

635
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 5: Elton's fine Elton. Yeah, you can just call it e J.

636
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: That's fine.

637
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: That's a big loss because he's he's so versatile for them.

638
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: I have to go Vikings have a better offensive line.

639
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: I would say that seed similar to your uh running back,

640
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: where you think Jacobs is the best individually, I think

641
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: CD is the best individual O lineman the two units. Really,

642
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: I don't think either O line is much to write

643
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: home about. I don't think the Packers A line is

644
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: playing particularly well, but I don't think the Vikings A

645
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: line has helped anybody, whether it be Wentz or Aaron

646
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 4: Jones or A J.

647
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: McCarthy.

648
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: So I really think you just have to go with

649
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: who is the least bad o line.

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00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: And I think I would go Green Bay. Well, but

651
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: see he is the best individual blocker for sure.

652
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: Since I'm arbitrating this, I'm gonna go on recency bias here.

653
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: The Bears were unable to stag J. J.

654
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: I watched Jordan Love get chased around the field by the.

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. Yeah, all right, just say it. So

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Right there we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's two to one in favor of mine all

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 3: I will say the Giants have a badass defenseve line

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Speaker 3: with Brian Burns and Thibodeau and uh.

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Speaker 1: On a crap team.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you forget about Brian Burns having an

665
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: unbelievable season, like there's cool bright spots there even though

666
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: the coach was bad and had to go. And now

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Speaker 2: I think it's Northwestern's finest Kafka running the not the

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Speaker 2: philosopher Kafka, Mike Kafka, former Wildcats QB. All right, so

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Speaker 2: it's two to one Vikings. I like this.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get wide receivers. We all agree.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the best bit would be for me to go, oh,

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00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: we've got a bunch of depth, and we've got four

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Speaker 4: number ones and it's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the that's tight.

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00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Andison to be in a will receiver for the

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Speaker 2: Packers in a heartbeat, absolutely, although Golden Golden still has

677
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: a chance Christian Watch. No one knew he was on

678
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: the team and then he just emerges from the mist

679
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Speaker 2: and gets two against the ratty Giants.

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Speaker 3: Come on, gets injured. He gets very injured every week

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Speaker 3: he does. He never he can't stay on the field

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Speaker 3: for entire game.

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Speaker 2: He's more fragile than my quarterback right now. Okay, don't

684
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Speaker 2: say things you don't mean. Eric, My goodness, tight ends,

685
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Speaker 2: what do we think Fitzpatrick Musgrave see, I like I

686
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: like my group better. I need eighty seven to h

687
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: to catch more passes. Wouldn't mind him breaking a tackle

688
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: once in a while, but he was also wide open

689
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Speaker 2: for an easy catch and run of thirty and the

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00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: kick QB overthrew him. I like I like my tight

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Speaker 2: ends with Oliver and company better.

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Speaker 4: I think two weeks ago, Yeah, we would have had

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Speaker 4: a really good conversation had been different with Tucker. Tucker

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Speaker 4: Craft is really good. Fucker's sweet and I think he

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Speaker 4: is as good as any tight end in the league

696
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Speaker 4: isn't bad Musgrave. I'm a musk Grave believer, but he's

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Speaker 4: he can't be used like a regular tight end. He's

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Speaker 4: got to be used like a receiver in a tight

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Speaker 4: end's body.

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Speaker 1: That's his style.

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Speaker 2: In fairness, I will concede Tucker should be part of

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Speaker 2: this maybe grand scheme conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'd give it to them. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I like?

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Speaker 3: I said, That's why I want to ask who's that

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Speaker 3: healthy versus that's the roster Again, this is arbitr. It's

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Speaker 3: based on just the roster regardss to who's healthy. Then

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Speaker 3: I'll take the package.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably right. Okay, we got a better kicker.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sweet waymen, your kicker McMahon is injured.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's questionable.

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00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: So who kicked for general's question?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well playing them even though he had a quad

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Speaker 4: injury and he kept telling him he's okay, and then

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Speaker 4: he keeps pulling kicks.

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Speaker 1: Go figure.

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00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: So have r sick as the record for the longest

718
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Speaker 4: field going Packer's history at sixty one yards.

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Speaker 2: So it's not bad to the defense defensive front. You

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Speaker 2: got Rashaan Parsons, I got Grenard and Van Ginkle.

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Speaker 1: What do we think, well, Brett, which argument? I mean?

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Speaker 4: I think Micah Parsons has paid the way that he

723
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: is for a reason. His pressure rates are unreal, and

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Speaker 4: he comes in clutch when the team needs him. He's

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Speaker 4: been their closer. And then Rashaun Gary's pretty good as well.

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Speaker 4: The fan learned, I gotta give it.

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Speaker 3: This is this is this defensive line of front seven.

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00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: Let's let's just go front because we're gonna be here forever.

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Speaker 1: I was very side edged to the Packers on this. Ye.

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Speaker 3: It was already they always it was already a good

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Speaker 3: front that got really good because of Parsons.

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Speaker 1: Well, I love our guys tons of respect with Van Ginkle,

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Speaker 1: Cashman and In Grenard.

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Speaker 2: No, that that's the thing though, I think the conversation changes.

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Speaker 2: Not even j Parsons, Jalen Redman has been fantastic. I'm

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Speaker 2: over all, I hate to say it, I've been disappointed

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Speaker 2: with Alan and Hargrave. Yeah, and I think you know,

738
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Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to pretend like Kolby Wooden is

739
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: a future all pro here, but it is kind of

740
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: impressive to move on from Kenny Clark. You're starting to

741
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: see the fruits of Devonte wat like Drake car we got.

742
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Speaker 2: I know it's tough that this is, this is is

743
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 2: very difficult. Now to the corners, I I actually I

744
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: think that the Packers corners benefit from that defensive front.

745
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: I actually like Isaiah Rodgers and Bira Murphy. Although Murphy

746
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: hasn't splashed like he did. I like our corners better

747
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Speaker 2: than Nixon. And I think it's Bullard.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Bullard's there.

749
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: Valentine as well, Valentine the other two so Nate Hobbs

750
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: can't stay on the field. I like. I like my group.

751
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: Nate Hobbs getting out the field addition by subtraction probably

752
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: not be good acquisition. I think they're assaulid. Nixon and

753
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: Valentine are a solid pair. But Rogers when he makes plays,

754
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: I mean he impacts the field. I don't think Bert

755
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: Murphy has been as good as advertised. I would give

756
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: a slight lean, but I would also say the same

757
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: thing with I said at the O line. It's kind

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Speaker 4: of who is least bad out of these two cornerback group.

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Speaker 3: I mean give that the vikings here, I think we're

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Speaker 3: talking about two position groups that are not e laite

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Speaker 3: by any to the imagination. Okay, but I will give

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Speaker 3: the edge to the Vikings, and this.

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Speaker 2: Should the Bears particulous.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then finally the safeties, and this is gonna pay

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Speaker 2: me because one of my favorite players in Purple, it's

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Speaker 2: just played his two hundredth games.

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Speaker 1: Is not gonna be good. I don't have this conversation, honestly.

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Speaker 2: I mean Xavier McKinney is damn good. And I think

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00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: Evan Williams he's not perfect. Dude tackles, dude, hits, dude

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Speaker 2: plays well.

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Speaker 1: Big pick. Last week, I got Theo Jackson.

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Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out Mattelis and coverage.

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Speaker 1: I have to.

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Speaker 2: Give the I have to give the pack the safeties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: Mattelis man, it's hard to put a position on him.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of just like an Amiba that he kind

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00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: of like fills in whatever space that b flow wants

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Speaker 3: on that particular particular defense. You know, he could be

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Speaker 3: a line he could be like a linebacker. You'd be

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Speaker 3: like a safety, you know.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's four to four. Give the kicker to

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Speaker 2: the Vikings. The Vikings win the border battle, we tie breaker, tiebreaker, tiebreaker.

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Speaker 2: Coaching staff oh KL one hundred percent. Of the time

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Speaker 2: and b flow. Yeah, so you don't even have to

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Speaker 2: watch on Sunday and noon. You can listen on the radio,

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Speaker 2: of course. But but it's a foregone conclusion. It is

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Speaker 2: written the Vikings will win the border battle. Now, well

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Speaker 2: you're saying that.

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Speaker 3: But the one thing that affects this conversation more than

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Speaker 3: anything in sports is the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and when your quarterback is in the

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Speaker 2: loves wonkie. But we have a whole different situation over

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Speaker 2: here right now. If JJ was a baby, he's still

796
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Speaker 2: learning how to walk now. Or you can go the

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams comparison with he was tricking out of a

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Speaker 2: fire holes this first year. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with me. Lavelle, Oh, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: That's Lavelle Neil, the third columnist Star Tribune. Whether it's

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Speaker 2: the pieces you heard him reporting, and I think within

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Speaker 2: the last hour piece on on the curling trials and

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Speaker 2: what's going on in the massive curling community with the

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Speaker 2: It's like a blanket and we love Lavelle for it,

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Speaker 2: even though he hat is in love with the seven

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Speaker 2: and three Bears, which is just stupid, but weekly guest

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Speaker 2: and we love him. Final segment is next full show today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Brett Blakemore for producing and whether

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Speaker 2: it was Lavell, it was guestling, it was Florio Parker

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Speaker 2: Foxen Studio and of course wild Head coach John Hines

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Speaker 2: kicking off the festivities. Just appreciate all the guests today.

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Speaker 2: Wild on these airwaves eight thirty pm pre game eight

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Speaker 2: fifty five puck drop hoping for two points there against

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Speaker 2: the visiting Canes. Valstad in net. It sounds like from

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Speaker 2: the coach himself. Wolves tonight at seven beat on the

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Speaker 2: awful Wizards and we move on, and that's really how

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Speaker 2: it should BEPA back here tomorrow opening the show with

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Speaker 2: the dagger. Wayne Lairvie voice of the Packers, will have

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