1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Don't want to talk a little bit about the defense 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: because as Nick showed up with the mask on and 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: he was puffing his chest out about the five takeaways, 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: which were very impressive. 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: You had to call it, call it what it is, 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: Call it what it is. 7 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can still say that on 8 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the air. 9 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: You still can say it's it's okay, okay. 10 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: You know what. 11 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Let me help you. 12 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 4: You got to take something for that scared you have. 13 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 4: I'll say it, and then you could contain with a 14 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 4: T A C A R T. 15 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 16 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: So I came in with the shisty on aka the 17 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: ski mask. 18 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Ye, now continue, Yeah, so you came in with a 19 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: ski mask. 20 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: There you go, tell Ray to say shisty, shisty. You 21 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: came in with that, the. 22 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Man then whoa you came in wearing that because you 23 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: were puffing out your chest about the takeaways. But we 24 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: are all acknowledging here in the break about the run 25 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: game and what the Buffalo Bills with one hundred and 26 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: eighty three rushing yards were able to do against the Broncos. 27 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: We've watched the Patriots this year, the six Mets sixth 28 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: best rushing attack in the NFL, and last week they 29 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: did commit to the run thirty two carries against that 30 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Houston Texans defense. I imagine there'll be a similar game plan, Dave, 31 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: don't you. 32 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: I don't know if you'll maybe get that much. I 33 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 5: think two things played into that game plan. One the conditions. Two, 34 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: they couldn't block either of the outside guys for the Texans, 35 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 5: and they were just lucky as can be because I mean, 36 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 5: the Texan defense turned the Patriots offense over. 37 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: They just couldn't. 38 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 5: They have stripsack ball, they try to pick it up 39 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 5: at the ten, kick it back to the one, and 40 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 5: New England recovers it. So there were opportunities for Houston. 41 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: But I do think this. I think Josh McDaniels will 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 5: come in and he will lean on that running game 43 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: to take pressure off that quarterback Drake May, even though 44 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 5: he likes Drake May second to year guy. You're playing 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: a team on the other side of the ball that 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: we all think Jared Stidham is. 47 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: Going to play well. 48 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 5: But from an opposing team's psyche, you're playing a team 49 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: that is starting and has to go with their backup quarterback. 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 5: So if your head coach is a defensive minded coach, 51 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: he doesn't want to take unnecessary risks to allow the 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 5: Broncos in this case, to stripsack Drake May and work 53 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 5: on a short field Mike Rabels thing will be, Hey, listen, 54 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: punt the ball, and I want to see Jared Didam 55 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: and the Broncos offense go eighty and so yes, I 56 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: think the running game for the Patriots will be of 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: paramount importance. And also they're a good play pass team. 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 5: Drake May operates under center a bunch and so you're 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 5: going to get the play pass after the running game. 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: It's going to be a conventional sort of look on 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 5: offense for the Patriots, but they've established I mean they're 62 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 5: good at it. 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not only just good at running the ball. 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: With two complimentary pieces with Rmande Stevens and Trevion Henderson, 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: they have too I would say, very good tight ends. 66 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: Not as good as the Buffalo Bill's tight ends from 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: last week, but two guys who have really been really 68 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: great in this league, Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry So 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: And I am selling Dave, you know, the ideas establish 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: that run, get the Broncos moving scene. If you can 71 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: get guys in place to kind of get those duo blocks, 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: those combo blocks where you go from double team and 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: d lineman and getting to that next level. Then you 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: get them thinking run. Then you take your shots down 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: the field. And we've seen some scene routes open against 76 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos, Like think about was it was it 77 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: dawsonss or Kikaid who was wide open and Josh Allen 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: just missed it and that would have stilled the game 79 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: for you. This once again, this is why I say 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: communication was. 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 6: Yes. 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, this is where you have to play with your 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: eyes and make sure that everyone is on one accord 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: because if you don't, you got to allow guys to 85 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: get leaky into the secondary and that's where they can 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: hurt you. 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Well, is this something that you can shore up? I 88 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: mean we're you know, you're in the midst of the 89 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: season here. It's not like, well, we'll come back next 90 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: year and we'll try to add some more players and 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: maybe tweak the scheme a little bit. This is what 92 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: you are, right I Yes, I think that's true. I 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: mean they you are what you are at this point. 94 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: You can I mean you can tweak things. 95 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: You can. 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe play a different front to start where you 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: make them you know, they see something that they haven't scouted, 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 5: they haven't been able to scout on film. But the 99 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 5: bottom line is when when the game gets going, like 100 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: the Bills game, man, you just got dudes out there playing, 101 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: and it's the guys that can play with a clear 102 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 5: head and execute the call at the biggest moments of. 103 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: Maybe their professional lives, right. 104 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 5: With seventy five seventy six thousand people screaming, you know 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: you're it's third down in six. I mean, you can't 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 5: just not execute what the strategy is on both offense 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 5: and defense. 108 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: So it's I mean, the Broncos are good enough. 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 5: I think they're a good enough team playing at home 110 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 5: that they can find a way to win the game. 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 5: But there you're gonna have to get a better performance 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: defensively in a lot of categories except turnovers created. If 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 5: you can duplicate that, then you're going to be in 114 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 5: every single game. But I think the run game defense 115 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: has to be better Sunday than it was this past Saturday. 116 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: It definitely has to because like Garibou, when when as 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: you know, what's the thing that jumps out to you 118 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: to you about the Patriots team is how well they 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: play discipline very physically, just like their coach. That fits 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: the whole concept and idea of the Patriot way, and 121 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: that's the way that they're going to look to come 122 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: into this game. Oh, by the way, there's no Bownicks. 123 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: You're playing with your backup quarterback. So they're thinking that 124 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: the odds now favor them and all they have to 125 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: do is go out to and next cute their game playing. 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: Don't turn the ball over, run the ball well, use 127 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: it the play action. 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: And then when you look at the Broncos players, fitting 129 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: up against the run is very important. I'm not I 130 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: don't mean just standing in front of a guy. 131 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean re. 132 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: Establishing that offensive line and playing on their side and 133 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: also playing with your hands. Don't run up to a 134 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: wide receiver or a guard and just let him freaking 135 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: grab you. You know, play the play with leverage, play 136 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: to fight off, play to leverage in this regard where 137 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: you know there's another guy outside of you, so I 138 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: might have to sacrifice myself run in there gets smashed on, 139 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: so Ryan Erewoods can be the hero. That's the type 140 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: of cure ball that the guys on the defense need 141 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: to play. 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Are you saying there and I'm not saying you are 143 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: saying this, but are you implying that maybe they aren't 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: doing that right now? 145 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: What I'm in playing is that watching this team defensively, 146 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: I see sometimes guys are in position right, but they 147 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: don't really strain themselves right. 148 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: And David tell you. 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: As a coach, when coaches dial things up, they say, okay, 150 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: well this is where I want you to be. 151 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: Is that guarantee you got to make the play? 152 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: No, because that other guy is going to try to 153 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: drive you off the ball, But you have to make 154 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: sure that your will and your sense of urgency is 155 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: stronger than his. 156 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: They toss it, left, cook it inside the thirty. 157 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: It takes a hit and the ball's not free, and 158 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 6: I think Denver's got it. Yes, Sir Singleton. 159 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: With the pop and who Fungo with the recovery breaks 160 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: contain out over the thirty runs out of the thirty, 161 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: five out of the forty. 162 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 6: He fumbles the ball. The ball is free, Oh recover 163 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 6: not still free, and Denver's got it. With two seconds 164 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 6: to go in the half five man pressure Allen. 165 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: Hit as he throws the ball is free. 166 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 6: It bounces around and I think covered by the Broncos. Yes, 167 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 6: Malcolm Roach with the recovery. Allen was hit by Nick 168 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 6: Benito as he was about to deliver the football. 169 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Third fumble of. 170 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 6: The game created by the Broncos defense, Alan pumps Once 171 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 6: loads it up home run, ball down the middle of 172 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 6: the field. 173 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Ball's intercepting. 174 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 6: PJ Lock with the interception down the east sideline. 175 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: He goes and the Broncos have it at their own. 176 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: Forty Fourth turnover. 177 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 6: Created by the Broncos defense today, deep ball down the field. 178 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: The ball is. 179 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 6: Intercepting Jakewon McMillan. 180 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 181 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe what I saw. 182 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 5: You know, you want to make you want to make 183 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: certain before you call an interception or a catch, And 184 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: so I paused and then like see Jake one bounce 185 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 5: up and start running out with the ball. 186 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh boy, oh. 187 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: My goodness, Oh my goodness. 188 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: That was play of the year for me, The play 189 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: of the year in a year that there are so 190 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: many candidates to be play of the year. 191 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: Well, Jakwan turned into David Blaine on that particular play 192 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: because he made that ball disappear and rear peer in 193 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: his hands, and so and so even able to influence 194 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: the bag judge interception. And I was sending in a 195 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: champions club with a bunch of former players and everyone's 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: looking at each other like we do. 197 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: We do we see? That? Is that real? 198 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: David Blaine? I thought you were gonna go Gallagher? 199 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: No, no, we're not splashing any more watermelon. Were making 200 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: watermelon disappear, but in a different way. 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: Okay, I got you hanging there, man. 202 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: So I have a question though, is we're listening to 203 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: all those takeaways which were obviously tremendous and the Broncos 204 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: had a couple of in the final game against the Chargers, 205 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: and that's something that Sean has been saying, Hey, well 206 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: I want to see a lot more of this. We 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: talk about sustainability all the time. I mean in a 208 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: lot of ways. As we're describing what the Patriots are 209 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: going to be trying to do, is what the Broncos 210 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: did and maybe not five takeaways, but being on the 211 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: plus side of the takeaway, the plus plus minus on that, 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: is that sustainable? 213 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it is. I mean you never really know, 214 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: You never really know. 215 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 5: There could be a pass that is thrown over the 216 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: middle and receiver wide open it and because the linebacker 217 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 5: got just a little bit deeper drop and then left. 218 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: His feet and barely tipped the ball. He tipped it. 219 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 5: Over the receiver's head right to a stat I mean, 220 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: so yes, I mean I think that I think that 221 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: it is sustainable. 222 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: Now, are you gonna get five? 223 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: I don't know, but I think the Broncos have to 224 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: go into this game defensively saying and we have to 225 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 5: turn these dudes over and we have to find a way. 226 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 5: And also I think when that game plan is installed 227 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: by Vans with the defensive coaches, I mean, I would 228 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: think that they will stress to those players. Hey, this 229 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: kid's a really good young quarterback, but he's also turned 230 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: the ball over. He said, in two playoff games, he's 231 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: fumbled the ball five times and thrown two interceptions. He's 232 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: lost two fumbles and two picks. So four turnovers by 233 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: Drake May in two playoff games. So yeah, I mean, 234 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: I think it is sustainable. 235 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: And you have to emphasize to your players anytime the 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: ball is loose, right, we have to be the first 237 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: one to get to it. We can't allow anyone else 238 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: to get to it. And here's what's the amazing thing. 239 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: And Dave I don't know how it is that you 240 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: coach your players, but I've watched it this entire playoff run, 241 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: not just by the Broncos, but the Seattle. 242 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Game and the Texas game. 243 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: Every time the damn ball is on the ground, every 244 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: guy is trying to be a freaking hero, right, just 245 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: fall on the ball. 246 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: And they teach her to get in a fetal. 247 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: Position and make sure you maintain possession. But every guy's 248 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: trying to pick. 249 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: It up and run with it. 250 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: Yep. 251 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: And then they don't bend at the knees. They're bending 252 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: at the waist and I'm like, you're not going to 253 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: pick that up. So he's probably telling them, and this 254 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: is what I would tell them. If we punch it out, 255 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: no matter how it happens, fall on the ball at 256 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: the end of the day, we want to make sure 257 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: that we end up with the ball in our possession. 258 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean this is certainly a way you can 259 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: you can tell things. There's an interesting stat here and 260 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: again depending on how much they actually throw the ball 261 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: in this game, but their rookie left tackle Will Campbell, 262 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: since returning from injury, has a ten percent pressure rate allowed, 263 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: which would be eighty seventh out of ninety eight offensive 264 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: tackles this year, so he's he's just not playing one 265 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: hundred percent. So there is a little bit of an 266 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: opportunity there if the pass rush. Well, again, you have 267 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: to force them to be in throwing right, I mean 268 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: you have to you have to do that. So that 269 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: means cherse to him in the offense. This maybe is 270 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more on them, isn't it. 271 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: Well? 272 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 5: In Will Campbell's defense, the last two games, the playoff games, 273 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: he's played some dudes. Now he's going to be playing 274 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: some dudes on Sunday too. 275 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. I again, I think. 276 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: All that factors into Josh McDaniels and how he goes 277 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: about coming up with this offensive game plan. You got 278 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: a second year quarterback, You've got an elite pass rushing 279 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: defense that gave up one hundred and eighty three yards 280 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: on the ground of the Bills. I've got a tackle 281 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: who's coming off a serious injury, who's young. I mean, 282 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 5: how many times do I really want to throw it 283 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: until I can get control of the game? 284 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: Until you know, the game tends. 285 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 5: To wear on all players, but especially pass rushers who 286 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: are frustrated because by the time they get there, the 287 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 5: balls out of the quarterback's hands or they want to 288 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: pass rush and they're having to deal with offensive Liman 289 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 5: coming out and trying to hit him in the face. 290 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't see New England coming out and 291 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 5: spreading this thing out and throwing the ball a lot early. 292 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,479 Speaker 4: I think just the contrary, Allan. 293 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 6: Steps throws past caught and they'll cut end takes a 294 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: wicked shot from Talanoa Hufunga. 295 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: That was Dawson Knox who made the catch and then 296 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: got blasted at the thirty yard line. 297 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: I can't believe he hung onto the football game of 298 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: seven second down and three. 299 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: It's just the crowd that just the who it was incredible. Yeah, 300 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: seventy thousand people. There is a video because they do 301 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: this they mike up the players or whatever you know, 302 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: NFL films afterwards and after the Broncos way, Well there's 303 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: that one. But then but then after the game was 304 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: over and they're standing on the sideline watching will let's 305 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: convert the field goal and either celebrating, He's like, this 306 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: is why I came here. 307 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I saw that he's with 308 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: I think that was I think that's a coach. But 309 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: he's also miked up after that play. Now they bleeped 310 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: part of it, so I can only imagine what Huff 311 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 5: was saying. But he's I mean, he's just got a 312 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: presence to him. Again, As like a former receiver, I 313 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: would always always want to know where that dude was 314 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 5: before the ball snapped. You know, wouldn't tell me exactly 315 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: like where he was going to wind up, but it 316 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: would tell me, like some coverages that I know they 317 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: can't be in. If he's here, he's There's just you know, 318 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 5: you just if you play in the league long enough, 319 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 5: you know there's certain numbers of opposing teams. And for me, 320 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: it was always safeties that you were like, Okay. 321 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: I want to know. I want to know where number 322 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: nine is. 323 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: That's like planning against Steve Atwater and saying, Okay, you 324 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: know he is a heavy hitter, so let's find out 325 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: where he is. If he's down around the line of scrimmage, 326 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm good, right, But yeah. 327 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: Dennis Smith looking at that too. Damn. 328 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: I thought I was good, but let me make sure 329 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: I run away from him. 330 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 5: Dennis was. I mean, people don't remember. I can tell 331 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: you firsthand. Dennis was every bit as big ahead or 332 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 5: as Steve. Steve's in the Hall of Fame. I've always said, 333 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: and Steve deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, 334 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: but I think so does Dennis. I don't know if 335 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: Dennis will ever get there. Dennis was one of those 336 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: guys like you know Jack Tatum, Donnie Schell in sort 337 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: of a different way. Donnie would knock the taste out 338 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: of your mouth. Dennis Smith was that guy. 339 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: See, I grew up kind of idolizing those guys. Another guy, 340 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: Chuck Cecil, who played for I love watching those guys 341 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: as a kid growing up, saying I want to do that. 342 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, what I want to 343 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: be able to do that where you roam across the 344 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: middle and you just lay dudes out. Now, obviously you 345 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: can't do that anymore, right, it don't allow you to 346 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: do it. I don't tell no funckages, no no, no, 347 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: no no no. See that was that was a solid hit. 348 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: But what Dave and I was talking about is illegal. 349 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: You were you've been jacked up or whatever. The thing 350 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: that used run in the nineties. 351 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: Just like you just run through someone's face. 352 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you were always I mean rarely on a big hit. 353 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 5: Like Nick's talking about back in the day when it 354 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 5: was legal, did you have to worry about taking the 355 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 5: hit like in the chest cavity? Now now you got 356 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: to worry about that, because back in the day you 357 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 5: were taking you were taking the helmet in your face. 358 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it was like you were gonna get figuratively speaking, 359 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 5: you were gonna get your head knocked off, like your 360 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: head was coming off your body. 361 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 4: It was like that's how it was. I mean, I 362 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: just can't even I can't. I can't describe it to 363 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: the extent that I know it existed. 364 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 5: But that's you'd go across the middle and if the 365 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: opportunity presented itself, somebody was trying to remove your melon 366 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: from your frame. 367 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: Well, this is let me give you give you an idea, Ryan. 368 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: And when I was in high school, we would call 369 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: it a paint job. Right, We're trying to give a 370 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: guy a new paint job. And what that means that 371 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: we're going to hit you either with our helmet or 372 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: a farm and that paint job was going to be 373 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: blood coming out of your nose. Right, that was the 374 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: gist of it, right. And in high school, this whole 375 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: thing was we wanted to hear that crowd, that level 376 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: of excitement to validate what we did. So we were 377 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: always listening for those wool licks. 378 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: Right. 379 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: If the quarterback just so happened to throw across the middle, 380 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: throw a little too high, paint job, right, cans would 381 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: running back in the flat the quarterback leaves him a 382 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: little too far paint job, And we would stand on 383 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: the sideline to compare scars on our helmets, just to see, like, 384 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: if you don't have any scars on your helmet. 385 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: You didn't do anything this game as a former offensive player, 386 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: what does what does that make you think about? 387 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: Like listening to it into some really dark moments. 388 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: I mean, play this game long enough. 389 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: I mean, and I was the guy who made my 390 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 5: living in the middle of the field, right, so you 391 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: can either decide, I mean, you have to be aware 392 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: of it. 393 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: But when the balls in the air, you got to 394 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: go get the ball. 395 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: Now. 396 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 5: If they got you one time, and you know, and 397 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 5: it was a little bit extra and then a little 398 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 5: bit of dialogue, then you took notice. And I would 399 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 5: say something after I got up and spun my helmet 400 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: back to where the mask was in front, and I'd 401 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 5: be like, okay, you know, what watch your knees. You 402 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: couldn't got hey, bro, listen, you hit me, you you 403 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 5: try to hit me in the face and take my 404 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: head off. 405 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: So I was cutting then, not down field? 406 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, ten y'alls down field? Oh yeah, oh yeah, 407 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: not really, but I mean it was. 408 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: I mean, you had you had to do what you 409 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 5: had to do, just just stay upright. And then if 410 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 5: one of those dudes took liberties, there's one thing. If 411 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: it's a good hit, okay whatever, but took liberties and 412 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: I still have plenty of film on that, or it'd 413 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: be like okay, and they were yack. 414 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: I mean they're just like magpies. 415 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 5: Of course, there's like two magpies sitting on a telephone line. 416 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 5: When you got up, it would be like, okay, y'all, y'all, y'all, 417 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: keep keep keep it up, keep that energy. But see see, 418 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 5: don't turn your don't turn you back, don't turn you 419 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: back around a pile. 420 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: See that's real football, right, that that's man's man. Like 421 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: that crap that Hines Ward would do with. He would 422 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: at players when they were not looking. No, no, no, no. 423 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: See if you want to be a man's man, hit 424 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: me while I'm looking and then come and get me, right, 425 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 3: that's what you want. That's the game, and that is 426 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: a part of the game that I can respect coming 427 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: from another guy. 428 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: But don't don't. Don't hit me when I'm not looking. 429 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: Come on, man, that's like pushing the old person down 430 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: the flat of stairs. 431 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: That's what it's not. 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: I don't know why that's funny. 433 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Yes, it's me. 434 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: You can't, but I'm just saying, I just metaphorically speaking, 435 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: you can't do it, but I'm not saying that you should. 436 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's an easy win. 437 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: So if I tweet out Nick Ferguson just said hines 438 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: word game was similar to pushing old people downstairs, I. 439 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: Will retweet it. And that would hard damn right. 440 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: Standing on that, Yes, Nick would stand. 441 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: There's a lot of people in the league that I mean, 442 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: Hines was a really good player, I thought, But he 443 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: he did some stuff that you know you can't. 444 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: You just can't do stuff you can't. 445 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: Do, but not as bad. It like Heines were worse 446 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: worse than Steve Smith, right, because they know Steve Smith 447 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: also was pretty worse. Yeah, because he was more cheap. 448 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: Oh, he would hit you with the crown in his helmet. 449 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Too. 450 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: Heines was more powerful too. Heins it jack you up 451 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 5: like and you you like stay jacked up for the game. 452 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: It was like Jake Paul in that last fight he 453 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: had on Netflix. 454 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wired up? How about that? 455 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: Like, remember they changed the rule because you could hit 456 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: a blind guy on Uh. 457 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: Well wait, let me put that in context. When I 458 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: say blind people, when players are not looking. 459 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: You're not seeing the other guy kind of hunting you up, 460 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Yeah, Craig back. So they didn't 461 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: change that until Hines war broke the jaw. I think 462 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: it was the Cincinnati Bengals no linebacker and that that's 463 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: when they was like, oh, we have to outlaw that 464 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: particular play. But for me, I'm all about physical play 465 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: and just kind of turn it back to the Broncos 466 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: for just a second. That's the type of level of 467 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: physical play that they're going to need to establish their 468 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: run game. Go down there, search up a linebacker or safety, 469 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 3: put him on his back, get the crowd behind you, 470 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: and then after that, it's good night, Irene. 471 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: Go to sleep. Put him to sleep. 472 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: Who's saying good night Irene? I don't know. 473 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I've heard that song. 474 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: You haven't heard of good Night. 475 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: All gts. Good Lord, happy to gts. 476 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: That it's an actual song. 477 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: No, I believe you. 478 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 5: Good Night Irene, good night Irene. I'll see you in 479 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: my dreams. 480 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Led Belly, Oh, led Belly. 481 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I act like I know who the hell is. 482 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: I never heard a lot of confidence. 483 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: I never heard of Belly nineteen thirty nine. 484 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: Well, no wonder I had never heard of let Yes, it's. 485 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: A little before my time, yeap, just throwing that out there, 486 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: this text here. I just jumped in the car, so 487 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the middle of the conversation. I 488 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: thought some of those hits last night in the Indiana 489 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: Miami game were really wild and hard. 490 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 5: That a good game. That was a physical game. Yeah, 491 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 5: I credit excuse me both teams for for being that physical. 492 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 5: I thought, Now, there were a couple shots that Miami 493 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 5: took on Mendoza. 494 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: It should have been right in the top. You can't. 495 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: You can't do that to a quarterback. 496 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 5: And I don't want to hear well, it was his 497 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 5: own read, so he could have been a runner. 498 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. You know better than that. 499 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: Well, we we are allowed at least one step. 500 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 5: You go back and look at all once a step 501 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 5: and a step and a step and then the crown 502 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 5: of your helmet right under. 503 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: It's not my fault that the referee didn't call. 504 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 5: Here we go, but I'm saying it should have been caught, 505 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 5: should have been, should have been And it seem as 506 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: though they were allowing them to play, which, yeah, I 507 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 5: love the fact that they did that, and I'm glad 508 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 5: he wasn't one of those lop sided Indiana blowout games 509 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 5: as though. 510 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: We've seen before. It was a really tough, physical game. 511 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I loved even though I'm from Miami, uh 512 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: grew up not too far from you know, the old 513 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: Miami Stadium. 514 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: But that was a hell of a game. A game 515 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: you picked him. 516 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: The cover was good, you went to yes in that. 517 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: How confident were you? I because we were all on 518 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: Indiana like from the beginning, but you felt pretty confident 519 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: about my Now, listen, I'll give Miami credit. There were 520 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: many moments where I thought Indiana, Okay, this is why 521 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna pull away, because what they've done all season long. 522 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: But Miami just kept coming and they're running back. I know, Dave, 523 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: you're a huge fan of Fletcher. Yes, holy cow from Miami. Franklin, right, 524 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: frank Fletcher, Yeah yeah, I mean and and Indiana did 525 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: a really good job on him until early in the 526 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: third quarter on eighteen handoff and it was like, that's 527 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: the guy I've seen before. 528 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Hey, grown ass man, that's what you was talking about. 529 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: And and you know the Indiana bag was in the 530 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: slouch either, Oh no, he was. 531 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: He was really physically ran down here. Once again. 532 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: It was it seemed like one of those old throwback games. 533 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: Who when I was a kid sitting at home, it's 534 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: got projects and we were watching Miami play in an 535 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Orange Bowl? Are you watching see you play against Nebraska 536 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: or something like that. 537 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: That's what that game kind of was like for me. 538 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: It was that kind of nostalgic for me. 539 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I love that Miami stayed with the run like that. 540 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: There was moments where I thought, oh, they're just gonna 541 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: put this in Mendoza's hands and let him take off 542 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: with it, but they just they just kind of stayed 543 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: with it, which was I thought. 544 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: Indiana, Yeah, yeah, Miami. 545 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm sorry. 546 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I think. 547 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: They quickly found out they couldn't they couldn't block them yes, 548 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 5: they couldn't block the edge. So if you went to 549 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: a drop back game, Doz was getting hit a lot. 550 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: And that's that's been unusual. Indiana has been very good 551 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 5: upfront all year long, So credit I thought to Miami's 552 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 5: front and one. I think when you look at that game, 553 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 5: as close as it was, Miami had a chance to 554 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 5: win it at the end. 555 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 4: I did not think Miami was going to drive down 556 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: to score. 557 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: I thought the Indiana game plan defensively was just light 558 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: years ahead of the Miami game plan. In the passing game, 559 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: I mean Miami's got with Tony, I mean they they 560 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: basically except for the handoff for the touchdown, they basically 561 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: took him out of the game. But I just thought 562 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 5: Miami would be better throwing the ball against that defense. 563 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: Well here's the thing that was interesting because it was 564 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: a fourth and five situation and I'm thinking, okay, well 565 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: if Signetty's going to kick it, and then they kind of. 566 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: Wasted a lot of time and he had to call 567 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: the time out. 568 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 3: And I never in a million years thought they were 569 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: going to do like a quarterback draw with Mendoza. 570 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: Neither did Miami. 571 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was frustrated because there are about two 572 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: guys in the secondary who buried their head and didn't 573 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: make a secure tackle. And for me, that that that 574 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: mm that chaps my backside. 575 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: I love the I'm sure it does. I I just 576 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: like that moment for multiple reasons. I mean, it's fourth 577 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: and five, but a field goal there. You know we 578 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: were talking about with Sean right, and I'm not saying 579 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: Sean did the wrong thing when he took kick the 580 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: field goal, and fourth and three, when they had gotten 581 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: the turnover from Josh right out of a halftime, they 582 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. And I asked you, like, hey, 583 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: would you be more aggressive there now that different points 584 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: in the game, and you said no, you said, and 585 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean the numbers would bear out. Hey, 586 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: you're up by two touchdowns at that point versus it's 587 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: really three cord. This is the end of this is 588 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: nearly the end of the game. But I'm glad they 589 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: didn't kick the field goal there because then you're up 590 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: by six and you're giving the ball back to Miami 591 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: with an opportunity to win by one, just. 592 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: Like they did at the end of the game. 593 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 5: Right, So I love that they just said that, would 594 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 5: you have had him go for it at the end 595 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: of the game up up three. 596 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: Yes, m it's uh, I mean it's he gets to 597 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: second guess it either way, you know, sure, I mean it. 598 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: Worked out, and I think I think. I think Signetti 599 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: also felt like, I think our defense, if we if 600 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: we force them without a timeout to drive for a touchdown, 601 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: I like, I like the odds that our defense can 602 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: hold up. Now if you if you, if you don't 603 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: kick it, or if you kick it on the first opportunity. 604 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: When they ran the quarterback drawing he scored. They went 605 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: up by ten. 606 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 5: There's still a lot of time left in the game, 607 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: and they had their timeouts. 608 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: From what we've seen from Signetti, not Signetti, but Fernando 609 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: Mendoza all season long and then the final game yesterday, 610 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: do you think that he has earned that right to 611 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: be the first overall pick in this upcoming draft based 612 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: on his performance. 613 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he'll. I think he'll be the first pick. 614 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 5: I thought last night, I thought he got better in 615 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 5: the second half. I thought the first half honestly, it 616 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: was it was a little fast for him. And I'm 617 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 5: watching that game thinking, well, this is more like what 618 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: you're going to get in the NFL because Miami's got 619 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: NFL guys on defense. 620 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 4: I thought it was a I thought. 621 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 5: The game was a little fast for him, but I 622 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: think and they didn't do a great job protecting him. 623 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: But the second half, I mean, he made. 624 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 5: Three or four throws that were like Wow, Okay, that's 625 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: that's a big, big time throw. 626 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: He's not. 627 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 5: He's got to go to the right. I mean, I 628 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: guess the Raiders probably will be where he goes. But yeah, 629 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: I think he's I think he's going to be a 630 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: really good player in the league. 631 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: Well, what he did show is that that level of 632 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: toughness that you want from a quarterback. He definitely showed that, 633 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: from taking the shot in the face and having a 634 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: bloody mouth, to the quarterback draw and running up and 635 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: taking like three hits and then the one at the 636 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: very end. So he's proven that he is a tough quarterback. 637 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 3: You just have to put players around him. I mean 638 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: to say, the Raiders do take him. I see him 639 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: struggling like every young player does, but he seems as 640 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: though he's a player and he's so grounded. You'll get it. Yeah, 641 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: he put enough players around him. He'll start here with 642 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: some games from him. I'm not saying that the Raiders 643 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: are projecting the Raiders to win like ten games next year, 644 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: but they will be competitive with a guy like Mendoza. 645 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Ross Smith here in a second. This 646 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: just popped up on the timeline Baker Mayfield going after 647 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski on Twitter. So de Orlando Ledbetter, who does 648 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: a great job covering the Falcons, tweeted out that Kevin 649 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Stefanski had a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland. Baker 650 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Mayfield and Shaun Watson failed, which started a chain reaction 651 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: to eleven other starters. Baker, quotas said, failed is quite 652 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: the reach. Pal still waiting on a textra call from 653 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: him after I got shipped off like a piece of garbage. 654 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach. 655 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 7: Get a little bitriol into visit. Absolutely, It's amazing that 656 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 7: stuff like that happens. 657 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: You would think that Kevin Stefanski would have reached out 658 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 5: to Baker Mayfield just like yesterday and Nate Jackson did 659 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: the show and he gets released on the phone and 660 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 5: when he tries to call Josh McDaniels, he's told that 661 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: Josh is in a meeting, he'll call him back, and 662 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 5: Josh never called him back. Man, that's a hard call 663 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 5: I certainly believe to make. 664 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: But you have to make that call. You have to. 665 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's part of the job. I mean, you 666 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: know that, you get into it. I mean, And we've 667 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: ever heard from Sean as well as every other coach 668 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: saying this is one of their least favorite times a year, 669 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: having to cut players yeah, or having to move on 670 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: and tell them, hey, your your dream is ending right now. 671 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: But he's just saying I'm still waiting on that call. 672 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: It reminded me a lot of that conversation we had yesterday. 673 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: But coaches sometimes don't always make that call. Someone else, 674 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: what we call the turk is coming to get you right. 675 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: They're the person that takes you upstairs. They take you 676 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: to the GM, but you never see the head coach. 677 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's wild.