WEBVTT - Bill Cunningham with Doug Brannon -- 12/8/25

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<v Speaker 1>And the Great American this morning as a trial schedule

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<v Speaker 1>involving City of Cincinnati versus Alex Chavinski. His attorney's joining

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<v Speaker 1>us now Doug Brannon. I think on his way back

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<v Speaker 1>to Dayton and attorney Doug Brannon. What happened this morning

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<v Speaker 1>in Hamony County Municipal Court.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, ultimately Bill, the case got continued to do

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<v Speaker 2>jury trials could be January twelve. The state made a

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<v Speaker 2>point disclosure of a witness. Come to find out, this

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<v Speaker 2>witness has an extensive felony history that wasn't disposed to

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<v Speaker 2>us as well. We want some time to look into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And in addition to.

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<v Speaker 2>That, apparently the FBI had a competative department that was

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<v Speaker 2>there that he needed to describe the callt it a

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<v Speaker 2>simulated lap, not an actual slap from Alex Kravinsky, that

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<v Speaker 2>this is what they're playing is the criminal contents. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is exculpatory evidence that wasn't produced in a titaning

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<v Speaker 2>passion working at continue as the Bechinnia.

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<v Speaker 1>So this morning you were told for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>the city was going to use a witness against your client.

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<v Speaker 1>And because they just told you this morning about this

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<v Speaker 1>new witness. She didn't have time to research the fact

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<v Speaker 1>who is this guy? And the witness did has closed

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<v Speaker 1>has multiple criminal convictions? Is that correct? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And to be fair, Bill, the witness wasn't disclosed until

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<v Speaker 2>they ended business on Friday. You know, we were able

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<v Speaker 2>to find some of his criminal convictions, didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>else about what he made or may not justify to

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<v Speaker 2>his story dorup place was provided about the witness, but

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<v Speaker 2>certainly were entire his primo background as well as what

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<v Speaker 2>he would testify to. So he needed the court continued

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<v Speaker 2>the trial so that we had a fair opportunity and

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<v Speaker 2>to review the additional discovery that was provided in the passment.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are in December the eighth. This event took

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<v Speaker 1>place July July twenty sixth. Why didn't the city disclose

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<v Speaker 1>this witness to you until Friday at the close of business.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the reason for not disclosing it too? They say

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<v Speaker 1>it was reasonably discovered or that they simply were somewhat recalcitrant.

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<v Speaker 2>I never got a good explanation why this information wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>provided into a pridey eight about four close in business.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless it was produced very last minute, working and

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<v Speaker 2>continuous to the case, but we are looking more to

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<v Speaker 2>trying this case. Our jam and Bridge welcome this tot.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a wild guest at an M four involving

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<v Speaker 1>Sincini police, many of them support your version of the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Will never go to trial because the city's not that

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<v Speaker 1>stupid to put them on trial. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>indication they're going to dismiss the case? There's no There's

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<v Speaker 1>no lesser offense below an M four other than an MM.

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<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, have they offered a deal to you of

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<v Speaker 1>any type to not soothe the city? If you get

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<v Speaker 1>something in exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave not engaged in any lee negotiations with the city

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<v Speaker 2>reviews to do so.

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<v Speaker 3>It will try this case between jury, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And they plan on calling the detectives involved in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>the death Sery, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Games police you know many times, as you know, Doug Brannon,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not the defense to call the police to

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<v Speaker 1>support their version of the facts normally. Is the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it true that you have subpoenaed Cincinnati police officers

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<v Speaker 1>to testify on behalf of your client.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, these are duristol detectives wanting to do the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing and are not pulling it much for the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they're going to just playing your trial,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think in nex with it is going to

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<v Speaker 2>exonerate Alex of these focus charges of disorderly.

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<v Speaker 1>Conduct somewhat unusual. So defense counsel is issue subpoenais for

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<v Speaker 1>the detectives who investigated the case of Alex Stravinsky. And

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<v Speaker 1>is it true that the detectives who have spent hours,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the FOP hundreds of hours investigating this assault

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<v Speaker 1>on July twenty sixth during the music festival, that these

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<v Speaker 1>detectives said, do not file criminal charges against Alex Chravinsky?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, East attackers, that's put a lot of work

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<v Speaker 2>into this case. I think that they've done some very

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<v Speaker 2>good work they put it. We're able to identify almost

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<v Speaker 2>all of these suspects. The committees set us acts and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't believe that they think that Alex

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<v Speaker 2>Robsky did anything conk here, and neither do I. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why we're going to try it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you also made reference to a CI from the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you put some more bones on this confidential informant?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it would appear from the information that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>provided that there was a confidential a foreman investigating the

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<v Speaker 2>same crew for probably drug related offensus.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, the same crew that attacked Alex and all his

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<v Speaker 3>friends that evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's clear this is a almost criminal gain

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<v Speaker 2>activity that that is what went down that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they disclose this to you before before Friday?

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<v Speaker 2>No, the FBI confidential in form of information was not

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<v Speaker 2>disclosed until late on Friday as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you can you come up with a reason for that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't speak for why the city didnot

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<v Speaker 2>produce this information earlier or who they planned on bringing

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<v Speaker 2>the trial earlier. All I can do is to actors

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<v Speaker 2>lobster their late disposures.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple more quick questions. I know you're busy. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it true that the investigating detectives and the Chief of

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<v Speaker 1>Police Fiji and others in the police chan and command

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<v Speaker 1>would not file these criminal charges? And that Captain now

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<v Speaker 1>acting Chief Adam Henny is the one who was told

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<v Speaker 1>to do so by Emily smart Warner, who's the city solicitor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the answer to a question that I plan

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<v Speaker 2>on getting it prial on January.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve, Bill, Would it be someone unusual if the detectives

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<v Speaker 1>investigating a crime and the chief of police would not

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<v Speaker 1>file criminal charges, but over their head, the political powers

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<v Speaker 1>at city Hall ordered criminal charges against the innocent person,

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<v Speaker 1>according to one of the news conferences, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>color of his skin. Would that be someone unusual, It

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<v Speaker 1>would be highway.

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<v Speaker 2>And for a politician to get involved in ordering who

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<v Speaker 2>should and shouldn't be charged from an incident. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 2>black community at Cincinnati was demanding this. There were some

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<v Speaker 2>CIDY officials that are supported by those people. This seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to have possibly acted in this case. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get answers to under oath to these same questions

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<v Speaker 2>a trial on January twelve, when they put these people

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<v Speaker 2>on the witness to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You had told me earlier on the air that the

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Authorities Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>is looking at looking at this case as racial discrimination

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<v Speaker 1>against Alex Schravinsky, your client. Is that still is that

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<v Speaker 1>investigation ongoing to the best of your knowing, Yeah, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest of my knowledge, the FBI are still involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the case, and that that investigation is still ongoing.

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<v Speaker 3>But so far we're not aware of any filings by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Better older of the boarder, and that would be against

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<v Speaker 1>the civil leaders of the City of Cincinnati. Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure exactly what they're investigating, but they are

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<v Speaker 2>still involved in this case to my knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, about your civil rights lawsuit as far as

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<v Speaker 1>charging someone based upon the color of their skin and

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<v Speaker 1>using under a nineteen eighty forty two USCA. Nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three civil rights violations, and that's a civil matter in

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<v Speaker 1>which you're going to see money damages from the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati. When would that lawsuit be filed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to try the case against Alex Stravinsky, first,

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<v Speaker 3>exonerate him, and then we will, based upon some of

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<v Speaker 3>the testimony that is derived from that trial, make decisions

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<v Speaker 3>about whether or not we are pursuing civil cases against

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<v Speaker 3>certain officials within the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>They're handing out eight point two million dollars to criminal protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine what this case is worth. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still willing to make a prediction Doug Brannon that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow the city will not want their command officers under

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<v Speaker 1>oath talking about conversations between them and the mayor, between

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<v Speaker 1>them and the city manager, between them and Emily smart Warner.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to predict they don't want any of this public,

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<v Speaker 1>would you agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so far they seem to be willing to go

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<v Speaker 2>to trial on it, so let's play along and let's

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<v Speaker 2>see what they'd have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Brandon, the trial date next is what January the twelfth.

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<v Speaker 2>January twelve, we will be back in court on Alex's case,

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<v Speaker 2>and we do you expect the jury troll to move

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<v Speaker 2>forward to them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, God bless you and God bless America. Doug, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks though you take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ill.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue to more. Let's continue with more. That this

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<v Speaker 1>arose because after a thorough, complete investigation by a good

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<v Speaker 1>police agency, they recommended that no charges be filed against

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Stravinsky. And then the civil authorities in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>the city, who is the mayor, the city manager, Emily

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<v Speaker 1>Smart Warner and Vice Mayor Michelle lemon Kearney, demanded that

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<v Speaker 1>a white person be charged with a crime because the

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<v Speaker 1>black community demanded it, and it happened. So the power

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<v Speaker 1>of the criminal justice system was turned against a person

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<v Speaker 1>because of the color of their skin. That's why the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice is looking into charges against the civil

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<v Speaker 1>authorities that run the city of Cincinnati. Later on would

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