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Speaker 1: And the Great American this morning as a trial schedule

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Speaker 1: involving City of Cincinnati versus Alex Chavinski. His attorney's joining

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Speaker 1: us now Doug Brannon. I think on his way back

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Speaker 1: to Dayton and attorney Doug Brannon. What happened this morning

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Speaker 2: You know, ultimately Bill, the case got continued to do

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Speaker 2: jury trials could be January twelve. The state made a

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Speaker 2: point disclosure of a witness. Come to find out, this

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Speaker 2: witness has an extensive felony history that wasn't disposed to

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Speaker 2: us as well. We want some time to look into that.

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Speaker 1: And in addition to.

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Speaker 2: That, apparently the FBI had a competative department that was

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Speaker 2: there that he needed to describe the callt it a

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Speaker 2: simulated lap, not an actual slap from Alex Kravinsky, that

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Speaker 2: this is what they're playing is the criminal contents. So

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Speaker 2: this is exculpatory evidence that wasn't produced in a titaning

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Speaker 2: passion working at continue as the Bechinnia.

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Speaker 1: So this morning you were told for the first time

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Speaker 1: the city was going to use a witness against your client.

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Speaker 1: And because they just told you this morning about this

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Speaker 1: new witness. She didn't have time to research the fact

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Speaker 1: who is this guy? And the witness did has closed

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Speaker 1: has multiple criminal convictions? Is that correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And to be fair, Bill, the witness wasn't disclosed until

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Speaker 2: they ended business on Friday. You know, we were able

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Speaker 2: to find some of his criminal convictions, didn't know anything

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Speaker 2: else about what he made or may not justify to

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Speaker 2: his story dorup place was provided about the witness, but

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Speaker 2: certainly were entire his primo background as well as what

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Speaker 2: he would testify to. So he needed the court continued

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Speaker 2: the trial so that we had a fair opportunity and

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Speaker 2: to review the additional discovery that was provided in the passment.

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Speaker 1: Here we are in December the eighth. This event took

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Speaker 1: place July July twenty sixth. Why didn't the city disclose

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Speaker 1: this witness to you until Friday at the close of business.

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Speaker 1: What's the reason for not disclosing it too? They say

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Speaker 1: it was reasonably discovered or that they simply were somewhat recalcitrant.

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Speaker 2: I never got a good explanation why this information wasn't

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Speaker 2: provided into a pridey eight about four close in business.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless it was produced very last minute, working and

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Speaker 2: continuous to the case, but we are looking more to

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Speaker 2: trying this case. Our jam and Bridge welcome this tot.

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Speaker 1: I made a wild guest at an M four involving

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Speaker 1: Sincini police, many of them support your version of the facts.

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Speaker 1: Will never go to trial because the city's not that

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Speaker 1: stupid to put them on trial. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: indication they're going to dismiss the case? There's no There's

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Speaker 1: no lesser offense below an M four other than an MM.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, have they offered a deal to you of

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Speaker 1: any type to not soothe the city? If you get

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Speaker 1: something in exchange.

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Speaker 2: Leave not engaged in any lee negotiations with the city

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Speaker 2: reviews to do so.

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Speaker 3: It will try this case between jury, you know.

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Speaker 2: And they plan on calling the detectives involved in this case,

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Speaker 2: the death Sery, the.

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Speaker 1: Games police you know many times, as you know, Doug Brannon,

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Speaker 1: it is not the defense to call the police to

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Speaker 1: support their version of the facts normally. Is the opposite.

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Speaker 1: Is it true that you have subpoenaed Cincinnati police officers

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Speaker 1: to testify on behalf of your client.

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Speaker 2: Well, these are duristol detectives wanting to do the right

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Speaker 2: thing and are not pulling it much for the city.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're going to just playing your trial,

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Speaker 2: and I think in nex with it is going to

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Speaker 2: exonerate Alex of these focus charges of disorderly.

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Speaker 1: Conduct somewhat unusual. So defense counsel is issue subpoenais for

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Speaker 1: the detectives who investigated the case of Alex Stravinsky. And

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Speaker 1: is it true that the detectives who have spent hours,

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Speaker 1: according to the FOP hundreds of hours investigating this assault

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Speaker 1: on July twenty sixth during the music festival, that these

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Speaker 1: detectives said, do not file criminal charges against Alex Chravinsky?

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: You know, East attackers, that's put a lot of work

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Speaker 2: into this case. I think that they've done some very

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Speaker 2: good work they put it. We're able to identify almost

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Speaker 2: all of these suspects. The committees set us acts and

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't believe that they think that Alex

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Speaker 2: Robsky did anything conk here, and neither do I. That's

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Speaker 2: why we're going to try it.

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Speaker 1: And you also made reference to a CI from the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Can you put some more bones on this confidential informant?

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Speaker 2: Well, it would appear from the information that I've been

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Speaker 2: provided that there was a confidential a foreman investigating the

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Speaker 2: same crew for probably drug related offensus.

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Speaker 3: Uh, the same crew that attacked Alex and all his

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's clear this is a almost criminal gain

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Speaker 1: Did they disclose this to you before before Friday?

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Speaker 2: No, the FBI confidential in form of information was not

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Speaker 2: disclosed until late on Friday as well.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you come up with a reason for that?

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Speaker 2: You know, I can't speak for why the city didnot

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Speaker 2: produce this information earlier or who they planned on bringing

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Speaker 2: the trial earlier. All I can do is to actors

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Speaker 2: lobster their late disposures.

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Speaker 1: A couple more quick questions. I know you're busy. Is

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Speaker 1: it true that the investigating detectives and the Chief of

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Speaker 1: Police Fiji and others in the police chan and command

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Speaker 1: would not file these criminal charges? And that Captain now

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Speaker 1: acting Chief Adam Henny is the one who was told

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Speaker 1: to do so by Emily smart Warner, who's the city solicitor.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the answer to a question that I plan

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Speaker 2: on getting it prial on January.

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Speaker 1: Twelve, Bill, Would it be someone unusual if the detectives

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Speaker 1: investigating a crime and the chief of police would not

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Speaker 1: file criminal charges, but over their head, the political powers

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Speaker 1: at city Hall ordered criminal charges against the innocent person,

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Speaker 1: according to one of the news conferences, because of the

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Speaker 1: color of his skin. Would that be someone unusual, It

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Speaker 1: would be highway.

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Speaker 2: And for a politician to get involved in ordering who

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Speaker 2: should and shouldn't be charged from an incident. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: black community at Cincinnati was demanding this. There were some

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Speaker 2: CIDY officials that are supported by those people. This seemed

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Speaker 2: to have possibly acted in this case. But I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get answers to under oath to these same questions

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Speaker 2: a trial on January twelve, when they put these people

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Speaker 2: on the witness to that.

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Speaker 1: You had told me earlier on the air that the

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Speaker 1: Federal Authorities Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: is looking at looking at this case as racial discrimination

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Speaker 1: against Alex Schravinsky, your client. Is that still is that

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Speaker 1: investigation ongoing to the best of your knowing, Yeah, and the.

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Speaker 2: Rest of my knowledge, the FBI are still involved in

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Speaker 2: the case, and that that investigation is still ongoing.

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Speaker 3: But so far we're not aware of any filings by the.

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Speaker 1: Better older of the boarder, and that would be against

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Speaker 1: the civil leaders of the City of Cincinnati. Correct.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly what they're investigating, but they are

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Speaker 2: still involved in this case to my knowledge.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, about your civil rights lawsuit as far as

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Speaker 1: charging someone based upon the color of their skin and

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Speaker 1: using under a nineteen eighty forty two USCA. Nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: three civil rights violations, and that's a civil matter in

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Speaker 1: which you're going to see money damages from the City

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. When would that lawsuit be filed.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to try the case against Alex Stravinsky, first,

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Speaker 3: exonerate him, and then we will, based upon some of

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Speaker 3: the testimony that is derived from that trial, make decisions

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Speaker 3: about whether or not we are pursuing civil cases against

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Speaker 3: certain officials within the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: They're handing out eight point two million dollars to criminal protesters.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine what this case is worth. And

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Speaker 1: I'm still willing to make a prediction Doug Brannon that

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Speaker 1: somehow the city will not want their command officers under

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Speaker 1: oath talking about conversations between them and the mayor, between

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to predict they don't want any of this public,

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Speaker 1: would you agree.

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Speaker 2: Well, so far they seem to be willing to go

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Speaker 2: to trial on it, so let's play along and let's

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Speaker 2: see what they'd have to say.

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Speaker 1: Doug Brandon, the trial date next is what January the twelfth.

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Speaker 2: January twelve, we will be back in court on Alex's case,

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Speaker 2: and we do you expect the jury troll to move

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Speaker 2: forward to them?

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Speaker 1: Well, God bless you and God bless America. Doug, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks though you take care of.

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Speaker 1: God bless you.

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Speaker 3: Ill.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue to more. Let's continue with more. That this

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Speaker 1: arose because after a thorough, complete investigation by a good

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Speaker 1: police agency, they recommended that no charges be filed against

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Speaker 1: Alex Stravinsky. And then the civil authorities in charge of

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Speaker 1: the city, who is the mayor, the city manager, Emily

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Speaker 1: Smart Warner and Vice Mayor Michelle lemon Kearney, demanded that

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Speaker 1: a white person be charged with a crime because the

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Speaker 1: black community demanded it, and it happened. So the power

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Speaker 1: because of the color of their skin. That's why the

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