1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Hour too, Twin Cities News Talk, John Justice, Gladuate, the 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Show This Morning, Freedom Friday Tomorrow, RNC Committee, mat Ak Kamara, 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Catherine Johnson, American Experiment and Representative Max Rymerer, all in studio, 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: and of course, your. 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: On and off topic comments all morning long via. 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app and talkbacks brought to you by Lyndahl Realty. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, Good Morning John, talking about the uneducated 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: voting public. 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: YEP. 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: A reporter went to a college just saw on a 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: video This morning. Reporter went to a college and asked 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: college students, on a scale of one to ten, how 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: the State of the Union address went last night, and 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: they said it was horrible, Like you had a one 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: or at two. 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: It was just horrible. 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: The problem is the speech hadn't happened last night. It 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: was happening tomorrow night. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Apparently Jimmy Kimmel gave his response on a show to 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: the State of the Union, but they pre record like ours, 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: I mean, way before it airs late at night. So 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: point being that apparently the State of the Union hadn't 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: even taken place, and Jimmy had pre recorded his comments 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: in response to that which he hadn't heard, and it's 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: such lazy criticism, because here's. 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: Another way you could do it, the way you should 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: do it. 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: If you're Jimmy Kimmel, or if you're the reporter or 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: people being asked, you can just go, h, I'm not 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: gonna bother watching it. I know what he's going to say, 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: because you and I probably know what he's going to say, 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: because again, what the State of the Union was wasn't 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: really anything new. It was a combination of everything that 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: has transpired since Trump started his second term. The state 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: of the Union. For individuals following politics daily, we know 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: all of these things even if you don't like Trump, 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: so you could have easily just have gone, I'm not 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: gonna bother watching it. I don't respect him, I don't 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: like him. I didn't vote for him. I think he's awful. 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Call him all the names you want and just say, 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, and I know exactly what he's going to say, 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: because this is basically just a combo of everything that's 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: transpired so far. But they can't even bother to do that. 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: They're incapable of just that level of honesty of just 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: saying what I mentioned, no I said. They have to 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: go and lie. Now getting up to speed on what's 47 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: been taking place during the legislative session. We got a 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: couple of different items, especially regarding fraud, that we'll get 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: into this hour. Talked about this yesterday, but I wanted 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: to bring a cheery attention because as it it's relevant 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: to the talk back and what I've been talking about 52 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: on the show, and that is just this bias in 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the media. Bring me the news has a piece. The 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: legislation that would have imposed stricter gun restrictions in the 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: state of Minnesota in the wake of the Annunciation Church 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: and school mass shooting failed to make it out of 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: a House committee with families impacted by the horror resolves 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: it to keep fighting. The headline itself despite testimony from 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: Annunciation family families, gun bills failed to pass the House 60 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: committee to two bills, one on a ban of high 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: capacity magazine and assault style weapons, didn't advance ten to 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: ten party line vote on Tuesday, BFL members voting in 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: favor of Republicans against. But in the headline, you don't 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: get the other side. You just get the side in 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: support of these gun bills. In the opening paragraphs, you 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: only get the side that's supporting of these gun bills 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: stripping your Second Amendment rights. Now, towards the end of 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: the bring me the News piece, it does mention the 69 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: gun advocates, almost as if they felt compelled like, well, 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: I guess we better bother. Gun advocates say if passed, 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the legislation would face immediate litigation, arguing that banning something 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: does not make it go away. Rob Dorr, friend of 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: the show and president of the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus, said, 74 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: the uncomfortable truth is this bill, if it was law, 75 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: would not have prevented the attack. Following the hearing, though 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: there was an apparent dust up between gun control advocates 77 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: and gun lobbyists, The Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus alleged on 78 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: social media their new director of Governor Relations and Advocacy 79 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: and a Lemmy was berated after testifying. Unfortunately, after the hearing, 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: a small group of gun control activists surrounded her and 81 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: began berating her. The post details one woman wearing an 82 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: enunciation T shirt screaming in her face and called her 83 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: a smug witch with a bead. This is not civil engagement, 84 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: that's intimidation and harassment. This is what you do when 85 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: you do not have arguments on your side. To bolster 86 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: your desire to go and strip away, in this case, 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: gun rights from lawful gun owners. You also move forward 88 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: with symbolism when you don't have good arguments. The Minnesota 89 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Reformer has a piece out lawmakers will see sixty empty desks, 90 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: reminding them of the responsibility that they carry. After annunciation, 91 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: when will we take action to protect children? Spoiler alert. 92 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: Democrats have no interest in protecting children. They refuse to 93 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: do anything other than again rob the rights of lawful 94 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: citizens and then craft bills that could benefit them politically. 95 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: That's it, because they don't want to do anything else 96 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: necessary to short security at the schools. They just want 97 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: to strip away your rights and in doing so not 98 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: do anything to go and prevent these attacks from happening. 99 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: The article says, this week's sixty desks stand empty outside 100 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Capital. 101 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: The desks are ordinary objects. 102 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Each represents a child in Minnesota killed by gun violence. 103 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: You mean murdered by a human. I'm sure that's what 104 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: they're meant to say. 105 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Right again, there's not just guns randomly autonomously going around 106 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: and harming individuals. The piece goes on to say, change 107 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: does not happen simply because we hope for it. Change 108 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: requires leadership and partnership. It happens when those entrusted with 109 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: responsibility work together to protect. 110 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: To children they but they don't. They have no interest. 111 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: The empty desks at the Capitol make visible what can 112 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: no longer be ignored. They are not there to provoke that. 113 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: They're there to bear witness. And we're bearing witness again, 114 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: somebody should tell the article writer, if the Minnesota Reformer, 115 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: that the desks aren't alive, not bearing witness to anything. 116 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: It's one of those phrases that gets adopted. It's used 117 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: by the lefts, but it has no weight behind it. 118 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: It's just so that sounds good. We're bearing witness, We're 119 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: doing something about it. Yeah, using that terminology is about 120 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: as good for protecting children as it is the gun 121 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: bills that they've been putting forward. These deaths, they write, 122 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: are not inevitable, they are preventable. Oh, evidence based solutions exist. 123 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: Communities across the country have implemented proven approaches that reduce 124 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: violence and save lives. Of course, the article, like so 125 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: many of these, doesn't provide any evidence of this whatsoever. 126 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota can learn from what is working elsewhere. What has 127 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: been missing is not knowledge its urgency. Representative Walter Hudson, 128 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: speaking during the legislative session to this very issue, lays 129 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: it out very succinctly in his comments. 130 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: Here's the list of gun control measures that did not 131 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: prevent the annunciation shooting. Expanded background checks did not prevent 132 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 5: the annunciation shooting. Extreme risk protection orders also known as 133 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: red flag laws did not prevent the annunciation shooting. Domestic 134 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 5: violence firearm prohibition expansion did not prevent the annunciation shooting. 135 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: Binary trigger ban did not prevent the annunciation shooting. These 136 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: bills replace Minnesota in the highest tier of gun control 137 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 5: alongside states like California, New York, and Illinois. State's not 138 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 5: exactly known for their lack of gun crime. 139 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: And I missed something? When has there been sixty kids 140 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 6: killed in Minnesota from guns in schools? What am I 141 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: missing here? 142 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Well, in the article, it states those sixty desks represent 143 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: more than two hundred Minnesota children killed by gun violence 144 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty one. Now, of course, what's not in 145 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the story is the once again relevant context as to 146 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: what exactly happened in all two hundred of those child deaths, 147 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: and whether or not any of these bills that they 148 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: are proposing, as Walter Hudson said, regarding what has already 149 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: been passed that did not prevent the Nunciation shooting, because 150 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: that's relevant. I mean, these could be suicides, this could 151 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: be murder by a family member. I mean something that 152 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: is not even relatable to anything that we're talking about 153 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: regarding Annunciation what transpired on that day. Every lawmaker, the 154 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: piece goes on to say, who walks past those sixty 155 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: desks will be confronted with a reality that cannot be 156 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: explained away. They will see the human cost reflected not 157 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: in statistics, but in children. Yes, this is coming from 158 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: a party that exclusively uses children as political pawns, over 159 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: and over and over again. The empty desks that the 160 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: capital will stand quietly. They will not speak, They will 161 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: not demand attention, although they said earlier in the piece 162 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: that they were bearing witness. So are these magical desks 163 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: or not? The question is how we move forward. The 164 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: question is will they act? And as I said, if 165 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: they had good arguments, they wouldn't need exploitative symbolism. You know, 166 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: those desks really represent They represent the constant failure of 167 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: the left to address the root causes of what drives 168 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: people to commit these murderous acts. Those sixty empty desks 169 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: demonstrate the current corps of the Democrat Party, driven by 170 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: hatred and their irrational insistence that limiting your Second Amendment 171 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: rights will, as the article says, prevent future atrocities. They 172 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: won't prevent any future attacks. Walter Hudson's comments are incredibly 173 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: relevant relating to the laws that have already been passed. 174 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: It did nothing to stop what happened at Annunciation, and 175 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: it's incumbent to the GOP. 176 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: Do not allow them. 177 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: Or do not allow themselves to prove that fact if 178 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: and win, Let's just say, for the sake of argument, 179 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Republicans were to sign off on their gun bills and 180 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: another tragedy occurs, because it will because lawbreakers don't care 181 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: about the law. They're not following the rules. An individual 182 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: who suddenly makes the decision to go and end somebody 183 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: else's life and has no respect for their own life. 184 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: If they're going to go do harm, they're going to 185 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: go do harm, regardless of how many restrictions you put 186 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: on lawful gun owners. We'll get to your comments from 187 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app coming up. Well, turn our attention over 188 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: to fraud Minnesota lawmakers clashing over these fraud prevention bills 189 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: as JD. Vance takes first major action as frauds are 190 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: setting his sights here on Minnesota. It's all coming up 191 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: on Twinsday's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh 192 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: three five FM. 193 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 7: Good Morning John. There always seems to be a new 194 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 7: catchphrase coming about. KJP was using top of mind when 195 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 7: she was Press secretary. I one drove me crazy, top 196 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 7: of mine. It's top of mind is bearing witness? Bill 197 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 7: is an encouragement to me because it's a phrase used 198 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 7: in the Bible quite often, and so hopefully the Democratic 199 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 7: Party is opening up the scripture and seeing the influence 200 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 7: for their length there. 201 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 2: Thanks circle back was a big one for right. I'm 202 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: going to circle back to that. President has been. 203 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 8: Clear that our risk is not having a package that's 204 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 8: too big, it's having a package that's. 205 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: Too small regarding the exploitative. In my opinion, sixty desks 206 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: at the Capitol sitting out in the snow, Good morning John. 207 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: I think those sixty desks are a better representation of 208 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: the lack of education in the state of Minnesota, regarding 209 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 4: any level of education, from reading, from math, from knowing 210 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: basic economics from understanding the government and how it works. 211 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: They represent a lack of education. No students in those desks, 212 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: a lack of education. 213 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: It's it's symbolism, nonsense. That's all that it is. And 214 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll keep saying it. If you have good arguments, 215 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: you don't need that. People will get on your side. 216 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: It rang true, We'll get into the eye. 217 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: We got a lot. 218 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Of Ice related stories to share later on in the show. 219 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: But I said that all along, I had plenty of 220 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: friends of the show reaching out concerned and still concerned 221 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: honestly with how Iis was conducting themselves. It wasn't the 222 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: majority right, but on the right, you care about all 223 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: these issues. If somebody is going and abusing their power, 224 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: you want to see something done about it. So if 225 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: they had good arguments relating to these gun control measures, 226 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: if they would indeed prevent. 227 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: These types of. 228 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Atrocities from happening, yeah you would see people. 229 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: Hop on board. 230 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: But they don't, and they do rob individuals of their 231 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Second Amendment rights, all while Democrats refuse to go and 232 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: shore up any sort of security at schools, vilify and 233 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: demonize law enforcement, federal law officials even being near schools. 234 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 235 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 9: Good morning, John. According to an article from The American 236 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 9: Experiment August of last year, a majority of students are 237 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 9: below their grade level proficiency in math and reading. Perhaps 238 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 9: they should use those desks for better purposes, like putting 239 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 9: students in them and teaching them. 240 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: Just wondering. 241 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Thanks, Thank you guys for the comments this morning. Your 242 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: talkbacks are brought to you by Lindahl Real Team. All Right, 243 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota lawmakers struggling to even agree on fraud prevention measures 244 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: because again, Democrats do not really have an interest in 245 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: going and dealing with the fraud issue. They just want 246 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: to give off the perception that they're dealing with the 247 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: fraud issue because they know that actually dealing comprehensively with 248 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: fraud is more than likely going to result. There were 249 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: individuals in the state of Minnesota voting for Democrats in 250 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: future elections. Now, Democrats did propose thirty new bills focused 251 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: on oversight and prevention, working on off of a story 252 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: from Fox nine. Republicans won an independent Office of Inspector 253 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: General and transparency on the fraud reports. But it's not 254 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: a budget year and these are potentially programs they could 255 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: end up spending money. So we'll start here. This is 256 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the reporting from Fox nine, and the first voice you're 257 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: going to hear in this is DFL House Leader Zach Stevenson. 258 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 10: When you look at the problems we were having with fraud, 259 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 10: the ability to save money in the long term by 260 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 10: investing some money upfront and curing the technology, it's a 261 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 10: no brainer. 262 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: So Quorn's those. 263 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 8: Are some of the new ideas today from the DFL. Republicans, 264 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 8: though had their list of ideas last week. 265 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: Can we revisit some. 266 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 8: Of what they are hoping to do so we can 267 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 8: see both sides here. 268 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 11: Yes, someone they are really focused on what they see 269 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 11: as fundamental to fighting fraud, which is creating an Office 270 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 11: of Inspector General that would have oversight and be able 271 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 11: to investigate potential fraud in any of the state agencies. 272 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: But the bill that passed. 273 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 11: The Senate on a bipartisan basis last year is currently 274 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 11: stuck in the House because House Democrats have changed the 275 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 11: bill quite a bit. They say they're doing that though 276 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 11: to abide by. 277 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: The state constitution. 278 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: Minnesotans should know who's holding up combating fraud and rooting 279 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: it out in our state government. 280 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: It's not the Republicans. It's the Democrats that are being 281 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: frauds on fraud. 282 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 11: And the Republicans have another priority that we saw today. 283 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 11: They want to have an unredacted version of the initial 284 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 11: optim audit, the very flash audit on fraud here in 285 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 11: Minnesota that came back a couple weeks ago, and it 286 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 11: was heavily redacted, blacked out, including the vulnerabilities to fraud 287 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 11: for the state and also the remedies, the things that 288 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 11: legislators could actually do to fix and fight fraud. 289 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: They don't know what those are. 290 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: Representative canuts and put this up yesterday she received the 291 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Optum report and showed the pages. 292 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: They're just all blacked out. It's every version. 293 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: Of the expectation that somebody has of a report being 294 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: released and the meme created showing it redacted, where everything 295 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: is blacked out. Now, from what I've seen, I guess 296 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Wallas has seen the unredacted version. 297 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: But what are they trying to hide? 298 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you they're trying to hide in the 299 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: report what can be done as was detailed. And I 300 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: have a few more seconds of this report from Fox 301 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: nine to share. But they're trying to hide what would 302 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: end up making Democrats look back. 303 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Because what needs to. 304 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: Be done to fix it ends up pointing to exactly 305 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: the things that Democrats did to break it and make 306 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: it more susceptible to fraud in the first place. So 307 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: we can't have that in the hands of Republicans in 308 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: an election year that they could go use for campaign fodder. 309 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: How dare you imcring people at home? 310 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 8: Might you know, say, you know it's time to get 311 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 8: to work. We need to start agreeing on something. We 312 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 8: haven't really seen a lot of bipartisanships so far this year. 313 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 8: So do you think, well the parties actually work together 314 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 8: on any of these bills to really get something done here? 315 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm on. 316 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 11: There was a rare bipartisan moment today when Democrats essentially 317 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 11: agreed with the Republicans on getting that unredacted report. The 318 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 11: Democrats are also hoping Republicans see eye to eye with 319 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 11: them pretty easily on some of the suggestions that they 320 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 11: made today, including the increased site visits and the electronic verification, which. 321 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: Is something completely new, might. 322 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 8: Be steps in the right direction in Cornick. 323 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: All right, that's the story from Fox nine. Now I'm 324 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: not holding my breath on Democrats standing firm on wanting 325 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: to see that unredacted report. We'll see how this transpires. 326 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: This is such an egregious move to redact as much 327 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: as they did in this optum fraud report that even 328 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: Democrats can't shield themselves from scrutiny on its face when 329 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: being asked about it, to say you don't want to 330 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: see the unredacted version would just be ridiculous. But we'll 331 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: watch to see how it plays out. Here's here's my 332 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: little expectation on this. This is my prediction. My prediction 333 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: is Democrats will call for the unredacted version, but not 334 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: for it to be made public, just so they can 335 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: see what the unredacted version is now. Thankfully, if that happens, 336 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: Republicans have to see it too, and hopefully that information 337 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: will get out there. That's my expectation, because if they 338 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: keep it from the public, then it's a he said, 339 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: she said situation, and Democrats can spin in any way 340 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: they want. In the midst of all this, Vice Resident 341 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Jdvans announced yesterday the Trump administration would withhold nearly two 342 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollars in medicaid funding for Democrat 343 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: controlled Minnesota state government. Following the massive fraud scandal that 344 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: we've been covering here. 345 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: On Twin City's News. 346 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Talk, we'll give you some comments from both doctor Oz 347 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: and Jdvans coming up, and how many of the five 348 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: hundred state autism providers have sought to actually comply with 349 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: the new licensure requirement. I'll let you know coming up, 350 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: but I can say this much. It pretty much shows 351 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: that almost the entirety of those five hundred autism providers 352 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: may very well be engaged in fraud. It's all coming 353 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: up on Twin City's News Talk Am eleven thirty and 354 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: one oh three five FM. VPJD Vance announced to yesterday 355 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: the first major your action as fraud Czar SITES is 356 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: set on Minnesota. Two hundred and sixty million in Medicaid 357 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: funding being withheld from the Minnesota state government because of 358 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: their lack of cooperation with the federal government in tackling 359 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: all this fraud. Here's JD Evans from yesterday. 360 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 12: We're announcing today that we have decided to temporary, temporarily 361 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 12: halt certain amounts of medicaid funding that are going to 362 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 12: the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the 363 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 12: State of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good 364 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 12: stewards of the American people's tax money. 365 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: Now, what is this going to mean. 366 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 12: What this means is that, first of all, the providers 367 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 12: on the ground in Minnesota have actually already been paid. 368 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 12: The state has paid those providers the money. What we're 369 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 12: doing is we are stopping the federal payments that will 370 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 12: go to the state government until the state government takes 371 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 12: its obligations seriously to stop the fraud that's being perpetrated 372 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 12: against the American taxpayers. 373 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: Now, Minnesota state leaders, including Wallsey, they were informed and 374 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: the Trump administration and the moves made by Trump, according 375 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: to doctor Oz, is that the federal government will hold 376 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: the Medicaid payments until Minnesota properly addresses the fraud. 377 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Let me share some of. 378 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 13: These horrible stories the Vice president started highlighting autism. Let's 379 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 13: get the details of what's really going on in Minnesota. 380 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 13: These are real cases from our group at CMS. These 381 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 13: are adjudicated numbers. There's a fraud scheme in Minnesota where 382 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 13: criminals soon to be criminals pay moms one thousand dollars 383 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 13: roughly in order to enroll their children as being autistic, 384 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 13: falsely dishonestly claiming their children are autistic. They then build 385 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 13: Medicaid as that already happened, millions of dollars for services 386 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 13: that were never rendered, never delivered by a qualified staff member. 387 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 13: These schemes disproportionately involved immigrant communities. 388 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: They're instator they're able. 389 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 13: To organize efforts and sometimes they don't understand what's going on, 390 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 13: and ultimately diverse resources away from kids who truly have autism, 391 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 13: because if every kid in the neighborhood has autism, then 392 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 13: nobody has autism in terms of how you can manage them. 393 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 13: There was one behavioral and by the way, these kids, 394 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 13: they carry that diagnosis of autism the. 395 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: Rest of their lives. Their mom made a bad decision. 396 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 13: The kid pays the price for the rest of their life. 397 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 13: There's one behavioral health organization miss the vice president of Minnesota. 398 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 13: They received delivered a half million dollars in medicaid payments. 399 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 13: But the top biller, the top biller submitted four and 400 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 13: fifty days where they claim they were working more than 401 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 13: twenty four hours a day. I mean, even in the 402 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 13: White House, that's tough. It's hard to work more than 403 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 13: twenty four hours a day. How they didn't get picked 404 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 13: up is shocking to us at CMS. There are other 405 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 13: red flags in Minnesota, including hundreds of beneficiaries receiving treatment 406 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 13: linked to one location, which was impossible physically to be true. 407 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 13: We had eight beneficiaries in one of these substance use 408 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 13: disorder centers, eight who were already dead, but the center 409 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 13: was still building us. Not only did they let the 410 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 13: person pass, they kept building for it. 411 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: That's the level of average for talking. 412 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 13: So CMS is done paying and chasing. We don't think 413 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 13: jail sentences are the right way out. These criminals flee 414 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 13: the country, many are foreign nationals. Instead, we're launching the 415 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 13: largest action against fraud that we've ever taken. The money's 416 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 13: not going to ever leave the building again. We're going 417 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 13: to start dreaming the swamp of the crooks that have 418 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 13: inhabited it and are defrauding us. 419 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: You know, and to that point, because you've had headlines 420 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: even in the Star Tribune recapping the State of the 421 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Union speech where they're so upset with Trump's terminology, the 422 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: way that he described the fraud it taking place here 423 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. 424 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: On Tuesday night. 425 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 14: The Somali pirates who ransacked Minnesota. Remind us that there 426 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 14: are large parts of the world where bribery, corruption, and 427 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 14: lawlessness are the norm, not the exception. Importing these cultures 428 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 14: through unrestricted immigration and open borders brings those problems right 429 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 14: here to the USA. 430 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 431 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 14: And it is the American people who pay. 432 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: The price and higher medical. 433 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 14: Bills, car insurance, race rent, taxes, and perhaps most importantly crime. 434 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 14: We will take care of this problem. We're going to 435 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 14: take care of this problem. We are not playing games now. 436 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: I'll get into the further details of this in just 437 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: a moment, but speaking to the autism fraud from Alpha News, 438 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota is finally moving to rein in the autism services program. 439 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: The barriers of entry were so incredibly low you didn't 440 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: even have to be licensed to. 441 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: Provide autism services. 442 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: I could say that I'm providing autism services and I 443 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: should not be providing any autism services because I wouldn't 444 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: know what I was doing. Of the five hundred state 445 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: autism providers who now are required to go and complete 446 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: a new licensure requirement, you want to know how many 447 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: of those have actually bothered so far to go and 448 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: apply for those licenses. Of the five hundred six, that's right, six. 449 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So more details on that. In just a moment. 450 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Jd Vance has zeroed in on fourteen state programs in Minnesota, 451 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: which include autism service providers, medical service transports. We've talked 452 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: about this that the administration believes is rife with fraud. 453 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: The Trump administration is giving Walls sixty days to respond 454 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: to its letter and forming the state government of its 455 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: freeze on medicaid funding. The Vice President called out so 456 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: called services in Minnesota that have received millions in taxpayer 457 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: dollars only to go and make fraudsters rich. I fully 458 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: expect that Governor Tim Walls will hold the press conference 459 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: soon make up some excuse as to why this is 460 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: horrible and awful in Minnesota is arbitrarily being targeted for 461 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: retribution by the Trump administration. Just wait, it's coming. Here's 462 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: an exchange with the reporter yesterday jd Vance shutting down 463 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: the fake news and their attempts to spend the pausing 464 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: of the Medicaid funds to Minnesota because of the fraud Sir, 465 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: in the. 466 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 6: Front much questions, you talk about the legal authority under 467 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 6: which the federal government pauses legally obligated funds under mandatory 468 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: fundamental press. 469 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: So what he's asking here is you can you talk 470 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: about the legal authority that the federal government has to 471 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: go and pause this funding here to the state, I. 472 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 9: Met a Kate And secondly, if you can tell us 473 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 9: how have been you know about the situation off the 474 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 9: coast of Cuba versus speedboat shop where you've gone that 475 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 9: you know failpers were killed in. 476 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 12: Interesting Yeah, So on the second thing, heishi uh Marco 477 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 12: briefly about fifteen minutes ago on it. But we don't 478 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 12: know a whole lot of details, and so I'll defer 479 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 12: to the White House to provide more updates as we 480 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 12: get them. Certainly, you know a situation that we're monitoring. 481 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 12: Hopefully it's not as bad as we fear it could be. 482 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 12: But I can't say more because I just don't know 483 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 12: more on the question of the legal authorities, I mean 484 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 12: inherent in Congress's assigning of the administration. Actually, you know, 485 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 12: we're the ones who spend this money. Congress appropriates it. 486 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 12: We're the ones who actually make sure this goes to 487 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 12: the people it ought to go to, and inherent that 488 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 12: to that is making sure that it only goes to 489 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 12: the people that Congress says that it should go to. 490 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 12: We shouldn't be sending money to fraudsters. We should not 491 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 12: be sending money to companies. 492 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: They're committing mass fraud. 493 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 12: We shouldn't be sending money to anybody that's trying to 494 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 12: defraud the American taxpayer. 495 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: So I know, you know. 496 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 12: Oz and his team, He's got the best team I 497 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 12: think in healthcare anywhere in the private or the public sector. 498 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 12: Is one of the great things I love about working 499 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 12: with doctor Oz is he's brought great, great. 500 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: People along with him. And congratulations on this. 501 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 12: But I feel quite confident we. 502 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: Have the legal authority to do this. And again i'd reiterate, we. 503 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 12: Don't want to do this like we don't want to 504 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 12: be in a situation where the State of Minnesota is 505 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 12: being so care careless with federal tax dollars that we 506 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 12: have to turn the screws on them a little bit 507 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 12: so that. 508 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: They take this fraud seriously. Here, doctor Oz say this. 509 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 12: Tim Walls could call him, could call Meek, called anybody 510 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 12: in the administration. And we've given him sixty days to 511 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 12: respond to this. All we need the governor and the 512 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 12: administration in Minnesota to do is something quite simple, which 513 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 12: is to show that before you give Medicaid funds to 514 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 12: somebody you're taking seriously whether they provided the services that 515 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 12: they say that they're providing. And the fact that there 516 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 12: are so many people handing out millions and billions of 517 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 12: dollars of federal Medicaid money without even confirming that they're 518 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 12: doing the thing that they say that they're doing. 519 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: It's a disgrace. 520 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 12: It's a defrauding of the American taxpayer, and. 521 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: We're stopping it. That is such a great point, by the. 522 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Way, that they don't want to have to be doing this, 523 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, the like I mentioned, I expect Walls will 524 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: come out and hold the press conference blaming the federal 525 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: government of arbitrarily targeting Minnesota. 526 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: It's retribution. 527 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: He'll point to the comments that Trump made that were 528 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: absolutely relevant in terms of having the back of Minnesota 529 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: taxpayers over the failures of Democrats in this state to 530 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: do anything comprehensive about the fraud. But Walls and Democrats 531 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: here will go and label this as retribution. 532 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to happen. They shouldn't be doing this. 533 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: They're just targeting us recklessly because they hate us. 534 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: And Jade Vance makes the point, it's nothing to do. 535 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: With that these are federal dollars by the millions and 536 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: billions that are being wasted. Five hundred state autism providers 537 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: have to go and deal with a new licensure requirement, 538 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: and six of them have done this. Wait until I 539 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: get into paid family medical leaf and the agitators on 540 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: the street. That's really going to upset you. I have 541 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: been holding off on that one. State officials testified this 542 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: week that out of roughly five hundred autism centers, as 543 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned, service providers building Medicaid under the Early Intensive 544 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: Development and Behavioral Intervention the EIDBI program, only six have 545 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: applied for licensure, even as the statutory deadline looms and 546 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: tougher oversight takes effect. Let's get to a few of 547 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app. 548 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: John, good morning. You may not realize it, but you 549 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: are providing autism services every single day behind your mic. 550 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: Oh can I build a state that's the case. Be nice. 551 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind supplementing my income if that's possible. 552 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: Only six of them applied for an autism license. 553 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 9: Oh my gosh. 554 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: Oh that's that's incredible. 555 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 9: Wow, Oh that's below average. 556 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised. Six actually did. 557 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: The disclosure came at a Monday hearing at the Minnesota 558 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: House Fraud and Prevention Stayed Oversight Policy Committee, where lawmakers 559 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: pressed officials on years of minimal regulation, announced inspections, and 560 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: low qualification standards for those working with autism. Now, officials 561 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: acknowledged that the EIDBI program was created by lawmakers as 562 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: an unlicensed program, a structure that allowed providers to operate 563 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: with less barriers to entry and fewer standards for business. 564 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: How does that even get passed? 565 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: You're providing a service dealing with individuals and mental health 566 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: and you didn't even have to be licensed to do so, 567 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: or at least you didn't until now. This is under 568 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: provisional licensure. Providers must apply by the thirty first of May, 569 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: disclose ownership, pass background checks, verify staff qualifications, and demonstrate 570 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: billing and documentation practices. Providers who fail to comply will 571 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: no longer be allowed to operate. What's happening here, in 572 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, is a safety net. They're giving a parachute 573 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: to the fraudsters. Oh, let me get further into this 574 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: and I'll explain. There's five hundred unlicensed providers, only six 575 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: have applied for licensure, which is shocking. This is according 576 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: to Vice chair Patty Anderson. Now they have until May 577 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: thirty first, so maybe this number rule, Maybe this number 578 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: will change. We'll certainly be keeping an eye on it now. 579 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: The hearing also revealed how low that bar is for 580 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: some autism service workers under current law. 581 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: At the lowest tier of providers. 582 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: Officials testified the qualifications are just not that much. So 583 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about I'm reading a quote here from Department 584 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: of Human Services Inspector General James Clark. So we're talking 585 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: about I think you need to be like over the 586 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: age of eighteen, maybe have a fluency, like in another 587 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: language besides English, maybe some online training. This isn't like 588 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: going online and getting accredited to be able to perform 589 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: a marriage. You're providing a health service. I don't I 590 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: don't even I don't need to explain this to you. 591 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: You know what, you know this, you're probably going what. 592 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 12: Like. 593 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Not only did they make the barriers to entry low, 594 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: but at the same time, they made it very specific 595 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: to the very individuals who are committing most of the fraud. 596 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: Because because the one thing that. 597 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: You have to sort of have a specialty in is 598 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: perhaps fluency in another language besides English. No, I don't 599 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: have the details here, but I do wonder does that 600 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: mean if you only know English and no other language, 601 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: you could not open. 602 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: An autism center. So we're gonna make sure. 603 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: That individuals who go and commit this fraud are only 604 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: of particular demographics. 605 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: No medical degree. 606 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: Or clinical license or former healthcare formal healthcare education is 607 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: required at that level, even though services may be delivered 608 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: to children with severe autism. And I go back to 609 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: the sixty desks and all this concern about children. I 610 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: don't want to see children get hurt. But yet it 611 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: is only when it's convenient for democrats do they care 612 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: about children? Because if they always cared about children, you 613 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't see this. You wouldn't have such low barriers, almost 614 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: nonexistent barriers of entry to provide autism services to children. 615 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be allowing gender procedures to underage children. You 616 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be allowing access to pornography of underage children. 617 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: Should I go on? 618 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: Clark acknowledged the concern, telling lawmakers the issue is rooted 619 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: in statute, not enforcement. I think the legislature should look seriously. 620 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: The qualifications were providers that we allow to provide services 621 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: in our Medicaid program. State officials also confirmed that all 622 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty eight. 623 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: Site visits conducted at. 624 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: Autism centers were announced in advance, typically about twenty four hours, 625 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: because the program was unlicensed and not classified as high 626 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: risk at the time. Officials said the state actually lacked 627 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: the authority to conduct unannounced inspections unless fraud was already suspected. 628 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: You could not make this up if you tried. If 629 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: you were a Hollywood screenwriter writing a story about fraud 630 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: in Minnesota with the details that I just provided you, 631 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: they would throw the script away, saying that it is 632 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 1: completely ridiculous and unbelievable because no state government would ever 633 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: make it this easy to open up healthcare services for 634 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: children and also put themselves in a position where they 635 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: couldn't even go and conduct on site inspections unless they 636 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: were suspected of fraud. Like I had to double check 637 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: the story. I mean, this is alpha news. This isn't 638 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: a parody, this isn't a speculation. This is what was 639 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: passed by Democrats and g You wonder why that Optum 640 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: report on fraud was all blacked out and redacted now 641 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: this is changing now ten billion, fourteen billion dollars later. 642 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: The providers that choose to be re validated, choose to 643 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: provide their ownership information, choose to provide documentation to show 644 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: that they have the right credentials in place. There's licensed 645 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: professionals that need to be involved in each of those agencies. 646 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: Clark said, we will do unannounced on site visits to 647 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: all those providers. Here's the safety that they're creating here, 648 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: though they've basically given the fraudsters and out. They can't 649 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: conduct on site visits unless they have some sort of 650 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: evidence of fraud. And I guess just the fact that 651 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: there's such rampant fraud isn't enough. So these providers have 652 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: to then decide whether or not they want to get 653 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: the proper licenses, and if they don't and they don't 654 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: want these inspections. Basically, if you are a fraudster providing 655 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: autism services under the Walls Administration, the State of Minnesota 656 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: has basically given you the opportunity to say, I'm gonna 657 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: wipe my hands of it. I'm not gonna provide these 658 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: services anymore. I'm not gonna get a license. I'm gonna 659 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: close my doors I'm gonna shut my business down and 660 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna move on with life. Now, life may 661 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: be more difficult for them because they're not going to 662 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: be bringing in depending on how much money they may 663 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: have stolen from you already, but they may not be 664 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: able to conduct any more fraud with autism centers. But 665 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: they've basically given them a parachute. And you watch these 666 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: hundreds of autism centers that have been committing this fraud, 667 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: they're all just going to disappear, and the numbers will 668 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: bear that out, but they'll be used by Democrats to 669 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: go and show how the problem wasn't that bad in 670 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: the first place. Just wait the media when they start 671 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: reporting on this down the road and all of these 672 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: different former autism providers no longer exist, and we end 673 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: up with sort of a firm number of how many 674 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: of these programs are now licensed and how many, more specifically, 675 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: we're accused of fraud. That number is going to be 676 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: incredibly low because the state's not going to bother more 677 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: than likely going after the individuals that close up shop 678 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: and they're on their way because no investigation was done. 679 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: I imagine right now there's probably an uptick in sales 680 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: of paper shredders. I don't know who what company predominantly 681 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: makes paper shredders right now, might want to buy some 682 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: stock in it, because I'm gonna bet that a lot 683 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: of paper shredders are being purchased right now. All right, 684 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: So let me leave you with this. I have a 685 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: little bit more in this autism story, but I want 686 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: to I want to set you up for next hour. Okay, 687 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: So we know we have the paid family medical leave, 688 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: we know the concerns that we all have regarding the 689 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: fraud involved. 690 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 2: Well, guess what. 691 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: It was confirmed that the Minnesota paid family leave program 692 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: is now going to be available and is available and 693 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: is already being taken advantage of by the ICE rioters. 694 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 2: Testimony during a. 695 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: Legislat you're hearing this week, they were officials were asked, 696 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: are individuals who are involved in the street protests applying 697 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: for paid family medical leave? And they straight up said 698 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: yes and then attempted to go and provide rationale. I'm 699 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: gonna play for you the audio coming up, and we'll 700 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: get to your talkbacks as well next here on Twin 701 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three 702 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: five FM, The. 703 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: What's Called a Trump derangement problem. Have you heard about 704 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: that problem.