1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Next week the combine On Tuesday, Sean Payton George Peyton 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: will speak out there at the combine. We're all waiting 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: to hear officially, and I don't I don't know what 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Sean's gonna say. The question if Davis Webb is going 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: to be called, you know what he's gonna say. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: He's gonna say it's a little nebulous relatives to. 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: Say, well, you know, this is an ongoing situation and 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: we'll let you know when we figure when we figure 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: it out. 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: You're right, we're all gonna be waiting for that, because 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the second question asked. 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: You know, you know, it's literally going to be an 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: ongoing situation, and. 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Well, we really like Davis we we you know, we 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: we think he's done a great job as a quarterbacks coach. 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: It's an opportunity to promote him. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: Mm hm. It's gonna say why why would I let 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: you know that? Now? Yeah? 19 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: I kind of want and I love remedia, but I 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: kind of want. 21 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Like Chris Thomason or Luca Evans, the people he goes 22 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: after constantly to ask the question. And I'm gonna be 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there. I'll be standing next to him 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: with like, hey, you asked No, no, you ask it. 25 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: It'll be Clisse, you. 26 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Know, like it'll be it'll be Mike. But you don't 27 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: have to. 28 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: You don't have to name a play caller at a 29 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: certain time, do you. So No, So he technically could 30 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: be like, you know, go through it, go through the 31 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: preseeds and just and then randoms be like, yeah, David's 32 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: gonna call plays for us. 33 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a calculated answer, That's what I'm saying, Like, like, 34 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: because that's how Sean operates. It's it's not gonna be 35 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: ham fisted. It's not gonna be by accident. It will 36 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: be a calculated answer to either make us confused or 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: say something. 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Without saying something. 39 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I just the dance, you know, That's what it is, like, 40 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: the dance between the media and and the coaches, and 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: that it's it's so fun and fascinating and aggravating all 42 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, and it's just it's it's art. 43 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: I'm just interested just to see his approach, you know, 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: this offseason with the media, you know, because obviously there's 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: a lot of questions about him, and you know, obviously 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: I play call, but I just wonder if he's going 47 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: to come out swinging day one. No, right, but like 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, let it known, I know more than you 49 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: or you know. Is he gonna just come and you know, 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: we'll we will see and I'm excited to see. 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: A couple of texts here I have to address before 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: we hear Kyle from Kyle Vanoy, I've never questioned Edward's 53 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: loyalty to the Nuggets. Once he roots for the destruction 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos so his favorite team of franchise 55 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: get elevated, disgusting trader. Wait a minute, I mean I 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: I just I get from Dave. He calls me an 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City thunderfan. I get you calling me a Timberwolves fan. 58 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm on the Broncos broadcast to the pre and post game, 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and here I'm somebody telling me that I'm rooting for 60 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: the Nuggets so that the Broncos are terrible. 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: I explain that to me. 62 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: I think, I actually, now that I'm reading it, I 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 3: thought I had bet it wrong. Now on reading it, Yeah, 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: they say you want the Broncos to be bad so 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: the Nugget can be the number one team in town. 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: It's so dumb, fly Dog he's fly dog. I didn't 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: realize that was your end game. 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: You think there's so many levels? Do I look like 69 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: somebody that has those kind of levels? I I'm taking 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: shots myself. 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: But yes, you might be CIA maybe and you know 72 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: your state planned. You know that. 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Well, people do think I'm a communist for whatever reason. 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: This is what I want to Broncos me a Kolpa Ryan. 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: The fraud narrative along with Bonix can't play takes during 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: the season in which they went fifteen to three was 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: demoralizing and you played a. 78 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: Role in it. 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Now Listen, I have been a big Bonux fan, and 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: I acknowledged on draft night, like J J McCarthy a 81 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: lot that was that was the quarterback that I was 82 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: hoping the Broncos would get. But I was able to 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: move quickly past that to be excited about what Bonix 84 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: could be because Sean Payton is betting his legacy on Bonix, 85 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Like that's quite literally exactly what he's doing by taking 86 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: his very first first round quarterback ever. And when you 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: do that, that has my attention, and so far it's 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: been fantastic. I mean ten wins in the first season, 89 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: fifteen wins, well, yeah, fifteen wins in the second season, 90 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: twenty five wins over his first two years, and again 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: quarterback wins is a weird stat, but it's a very 92 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: good team that's built around him, and that includes the 93 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: coaching staff that is coaching him. 94 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: I believe, you know, you can be critical of bow 95 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: Knicks because you see the potential of what he can 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: be and that's not necessarily you know, being negative or demoralized, 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, being demoralized by bow Knicks. It's you see 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: the flashes of how good he can be, and if 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: he doesn't necessarily live up to a one game you know, 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: it's okay to be a little critical of it. Like 101 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: we can take it as players. You know, we know 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: that our player is under micro under a microscope, and 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: that everybody's going to have ano in the end of 104 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: something we do. That's what we signed up for when 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: we decide to be professional football players. But I believe, 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: I believe in you, Ryan. I think you're a Nuggets 107 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: fan and a Broncos fan. 108 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: Don't sound like I'm holding a gun to your head 109 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: or something like that, like blink twice if you're being 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: held hostage. 111 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: It's not like that. 112 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: You know, my wife already knows if I was ever 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: being held hostage or I told her I like ketchup? 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Is it? 115 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: It's over? 116 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: It's over. 117 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you already know. 118 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Call the police, call them please. 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: Hey, I hate ketchup. 120 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: That ch hate ketchup? 121 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, no, I'm a mustard guy. 122 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's fine to be a mustard It's 123 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: fine to be a mustard person. I like mustard as well. 124 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: It's only a certain things I would say, I like 125 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: it universally, Like do you like mustard universally? Like doesn't 126 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: matter what? Like, hey, whatever, sandwich or hot dog or 127 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: what I. 128 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: Mean, hot dog most cold cut sandwiches. Okay, I actually 129 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: I see them. I like, I see some my ribs, 130 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: I rub them and mustard. 131 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: That's interesting, and. 132 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: Then you know, seies them up after I use a lot. Yeah, 133 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: I use mustard and a lot of stuff. 134 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: So what is why are you anti ketchup? 135 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: It's disgusting. And I don't like tomatoes in the first place. 136 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Well there you go. 137 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: No, no, no, they don't taste like tomatoes. Ketchup. Just 138 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: I used to be a guy who I could do 139 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: ketchup and mustard on a burger or something like that. 140 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 141 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Nah, mustard only say you. 142 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Have taste, boats evolve and change. 143 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: I think you can acknowledge that some people can like ketchup, 144 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: But I'm surprised. 145 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: Why are you. 146 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: Surprised, Well, because it's not like a threatening condiment or 147 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: anything like. Is that Is that one of those like 148 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't like think spicy things, you know, 149 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like I don't like sultsa or 150 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't like Mayo. There's a lot of people that 151 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: don't like mao. Male is kind of weird. It's not 152 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: really good for you either, But Ketchup's fine. So what 153 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: do you dip your fries in? 154 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: Ranch or mustard? 155 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: Mustard? 156 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's not that weird. 157 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: It's a little weird. What dipping your fries and must 158 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: I never heard of that. 159 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: You know what, you need to live a little bit. 160 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: Top Button did some fries and ketchup and no, non 161 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: ketchup and mustard. Don't ever do that in ketchup you 162 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: did for your fries and ketchup? 163 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, like an American? Okay, so what am I? 164 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm the communist? 165 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: We got that communist? I am not him saying it though. Finally, 166 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: somebody you play that for Daves. You gottay for Dave 167 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: hands drop. 168 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: All right, So Kyle van Noy, I've been teasing this 169 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: all show because I'm be excited to hear. It's not 170 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: often in the midst of an offseason we get good audio. 171 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes we feel like we have audio that we try 172 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: to s warn his something. But Kyle van Noy was 173 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: on with Rich Eisen and he was talking about the 174 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: importance of the defensive tackle defensive lineman right d NS 175 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: not edge rushers, and he said, because he's an edge rusher, 176 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: right plays inside a little bit, but but he's an 177 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: edge rusher. So he was talking about we don't have 178 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: the success as edge rushers without the help the defensive line, 179 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and he was pointing to how that's gonna be the 180 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: new premium position. That's gonna be the position that more 181 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: teams should be focusing on. Sell Is there's some positives 182 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: in here, but if age just at the very end 183 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: of the clip, because there's a very obvious omission when 184 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: he is talking about Miles Garrett's success. Okay, there's a 185 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: lot of good stuff on the Broncos in here. Okay, 186 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: So without further ado, He's Kyle van Noy asked about 187 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: the importance of the defensive lineman. 188 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: I just see it slowly moving from the Miles Garretts 189 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: of the world, the Micah Parsons of the world. Like 190 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: I think they're unbelievable. I think they're one on one. 191 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: But I truly think if you really want to build 192 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: contenders and be in that final game, you need that 193 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, you need that Warren Sap like player on 194 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: the inside. You need that Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams, Christian 195 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: barm or Milton Williams. You're gonna need those guys in 196 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: the middle at the retechnique position to get pressure. I 197 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: mean that allows those guys on the edge to get 198 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 4: really loose. You look at the Broncos defense, Zach Allen, 199 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: he kind of gets overshadowed a little bit from Nick 200 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: Bondo and Cooper on the edges, John Franklin Myers have 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: a hell of a year. 202 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: Those guys. 203 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 4: Of the damage that they do on inside allows those 204 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 4: edge guys to. 205 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Do whatever they like to do. So I really see. 206 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: It being, you know, a detackle world of where people 207 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: are going. You know, you got the lights of Carter 208 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: who's about to get highly paid. I mean he's another 209 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: one of those guys that's in that upper echelon. You 210 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: look at the Chiefs why they've had so much success. 211 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: I really believe it's because of Chris Jones where it 212 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: starts on the inside, being a damaged player. I put 213 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: him right underneath Aaron Donald in this decade of the 214 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: detackle position, and I really believe it's going to be 215 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: the big future. You know, you need this to win 216 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. I really believe that Edges. Let's not 217 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: get this mistake. I played this edge. So I don't 218 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: want to downplay the significance of that, because you definitely 219 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: need trenches, trenches, trenches and more trenches. I just believe 220 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: that you need a highly impactful player on the inside 221 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: to help the edge russers. I mean you we saw 222 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett this year what he did this year. This 223 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: year he's had because he had elite Collins, because he 224 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: had Graham on the inside. It's allowed them to the 225 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: quarterback to get that pressure just for a split second 226 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: right in the middle, to allow the edge pressure on 227 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: the perimeter. 228 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: Come on, Kyle, it's whatever did it? 229 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Either of those guys give a high five to the 230 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: ref After Miles Garrett got a sack record. 231 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: No, but at the end of the day, you know, 232 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: I don't need his recognition to know my part of 233 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: the team, you know, And obviously I think Malik does 234 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: need the recognition. I think I thought Malik should have 235 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: been a pro bowler even though he got hurt. You know, 236 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: Mason really came strong, came on strong at the end 237 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: of the year, and you know those guys are balling 238 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: the ballers I have no you know, I'm a hater, 239 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 3: but like, don't get wrong, I've always told you I'm 240 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: a hater, like I talk trash to everybody, but I 241 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: don't take that as a shot. I take that. You know, 242 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: those guys, no, Malik, Mason, you know those guys did 243 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: ball out. You know I did my thing too. But 244 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, I don't 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: need another man to sing my praises to know how 246 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,359 Speaker 3: valuable I am. 247 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: It's very nice of you to take the high road, 248 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: and I'm proud of you for that. 249 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm impressed because you could have treated him like ketchup 250 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: and been like, I reject this entire thing, all of 251 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: the nonsense. But then also at the same time, we 252 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: do just say one of those things about your position group. 253 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: Well, his message was right, and that the inside pressure 254 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: it's really what sets up the outside guys and vice versa. 255 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: But it's not just that you know, you got inside pressure, 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: outside pressure. You need to have some coverage, you know, 257 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: coverage guys, your dbs, you have to be doing their job. 258 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: We always talk about rush and coverage. Rush and coverage 259 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: work together, and without the DB's covering long enough, we 260 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to get sex if without our pressure, 261 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 3: sometimes they wouldn't be able to get interceptions off of 262 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: bad passes. That's just how it is. But it's a 263 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: it's a team, and playing football is the epiton me 264 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: of a true team where everybody is important, everybody has 265 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: a hand and you know, and the results of the game. 266 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: And so he's he's one hundred percent right. You know, 267 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: the D tackles should be the premium position because I 268 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: believe that we are very instrumental and stopping the run 269 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: probably you know, obviously, like you said, closest to the ball, 270 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: and then also we set everybody up for past you 271 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I just believe that, you know, 272 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: everything Colvin always said was right, except you just you know, 273 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: forgot big show to. 274 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Go and of course in the midst of all now, 275 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: besides forgetting that you were integral part of Miles garrett 276 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: sack record and winning let it go. 277 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: As we try to drive that wedge. But I'm glad 278 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: we got your singing in Deborah mess I see zebra. 279 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 280 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: Do you want to read that one? 281 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: Yes? Thanks for the shout out on air today? Are 282 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: you spoiler hockey scorers? I watched the women's hockey gold 283 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: medal game at work today because I didn't want to 284 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: take any chances. I listened to you guys every afternoon. 285 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: Maybe time to learn a little more about hockey. Hahaha, Debora, well, 286 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: thank you for listening. Debra, thank you for watching it. 287 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: Before he's talked listening to us. He definitely spoiled it. 288 00:13:59,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: We we did. 289 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was like one of those I didn't 290 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: even pause for a second to say we should think 291 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: about this. I just said congratulations women's hockey winning gold today. 292 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: I was hype. I was like I was actually laying 293 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: down when it happened, and I did a full sit 294 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: up nice that was actually in my apps are really 295 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: sore from so I almost jumped like I was hype. 296 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: It was pretty cool. 297 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: But this is how it's supposed to be. You know. Obviously, 298 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: those athletes have given us something to cheer for our country. 299 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of stuff going on right now. 300 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: People don't feel like they can cheer for our country, 301 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: and so this has given us something to smile and 302 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: cheer for. And it's supposed to bring people together sports. 303 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: You knights, you know what I mean. But that's only 304 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: I guess if they have the same viewpoint. 305 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: So it's a little spoiler alert for tomorrow, Debrah. 306 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: As US men's hockey is playing the time we're on 307 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the air, it would be more or less wrapping up 308 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: by time we're on the air. We might spoil that 309 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: one because it'll be opportunity to go play for the 310 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: gold I'm assuming against Canada, which will be phenomenal. 311 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: Hey they can If they can go to and against Canada, 312 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: I'd be a a big deal, actually a big deal 313 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: in it because the idea is that they're supposed to 314 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: be their sport. 315 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: That's right right as their sports. 316 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: That's supposed to be their sports. So don't don't don't 317 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: let us start to catch up. Now. 318 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying back to this conversation about calvinoin now, 319 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: I do want to get into a bigger conversation about 320 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: finding those kinds of defensive linemen, like what do you 321 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: think uh as far as scouting that position goes and 322 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: against a little self serving since you play it. But 323 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that in a second. 324 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: But he didn't mention the Broncos and talked about building things, 325 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: which of course they did very intentionally around the defensive line. 326 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: Now, they drafted their edge guys, but a. 327 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Lot of the interior defensive line of the Broncos are 328 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: free agents. 329 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: Like that. 330 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: That's kind of an underlying point of this whole thing. 331 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Back Allen Malcolm Roach, DJ Jones JFM was a trade 332 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of vets there, a lot and then your 333 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: edge guys have all been drafted and developed. 334 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: It's kind of unique, isn't it. 335 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, obviously they've the Broncos have found 336 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: a different way of kind of you know, trying to 337 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: develop people in theirs is more the free agency way, 338 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: except for obviously Nick Buonito and Jonathan Cooper and all 339 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: the edges, but on the inside, and that's what the 340 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: benefit is. When you bring coaches from different places, they're like, hey, 341 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: I had a guy like VJ. We came here and 342 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: he's like, I know a guy that we can get. 343 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: I was with them in Arizona. You bringing Zach Allen, 344 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: Sean Payton. I know a guy in New Orleans that 345 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: I've heard, you know that can really play the run 346 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: very well and give us some pass rush knock them roach, 347 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then JFM had a 348 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: connection with George Peyton. So that whole thing is all connections. 349 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: That's what the league is. If the league is nothing 350 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: the same as the real world, it's all about who 351 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, and that's how you end up in some 352 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: of these places. It's because you've either played for these 353 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: people before or you know something. You know them through somebody, 354 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: and that's kind of how it always works, because they 355 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: want to know too, if they can handle you, if 356 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: they can deal with you being there is are you 357 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: got a problem. But if they've worked with you before, 358 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: they know already, Oh, this would be a good guy 359 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: for the locker room. Let's bring him in. And that's 360 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: why I've always told people, and I tell people learn 361 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: from some of my mistakes. Don't burn any bridges, you 362 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Don't burn bridges, especially with coaches, 363 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: because just because they're they're one year, they might be 364 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: somewhere else and in a position that they control if 365 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: you come here or not, or. 366 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: They can talk to somebody at another team because they 367 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: coach with them, and then they call. They happen to 368 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: call like, hey, you had some experience with Shelby out 369 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: in this one. 370 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: What was he like? 371 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: And then you're not even like considering that team, but 372 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they have some assistant positional coach 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: that happened to hear from somebody. 374 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: You're right, it's it's all networking. 375 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: That's all. That's all the league is. And so once 376 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: you understand that, then you should understand that. Well also 377 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: you should just be a good person anyway and treat everybody, 378 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, treat everybody good. But it just don't burn 379 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: the bridges. You might have to walk back across it 380 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: one day and you don't want to walk and walk 381 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: to the edge of it with your head down and 382 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: be like, damn, I shouldn't have did that, and now 383 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: your career could be over after that. You want to 384 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: have all these coaches on your side, because, as we 385 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: said earlier, it seems like it's a recycling process. Well, well, 386 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: these coaches go from one place to another, so when 387 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: they go to another place, your number better be on 388 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: speed dial so that you can get a job. 389 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Once again, congratulations to Nathaniel Hackett for getting the offensive 390 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: coordinator job down in Arizona. This one, did the referee 391 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: get suspended for slapping Shelby's hand? 392 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Well know why because he. 393 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Was actually holding his hands up. It wasn't even intentionally 394 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: to give you a high. 395 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Five slap hands. The ref didn't initiate you. You initiated it. 396 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, one of the refold the the refiend never 397 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: get in trouble for that. 398 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: Because it's like he walked up Shelby for ninety six. 399 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: Let's go, buddy. 400 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: I think it's a miscon misconception because he was walking 401 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: up with his hand open. But that's how you stopped 402 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: the play calling for a dead but like no, stop 403 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: the clock and all, like you know what I mean. 404 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: And then I just took the initiative and our fingers 405 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: interlocked for a second. 406 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: Oh did they you shared a moment? Hunh. 407 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: We made eye contact and it felt special. 408 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty touching, just like our hands. 409 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: Fries and ketchup is like the standard. 410 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I don't other enjoy other things 411 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: like fries in ranch, right, I could get behind that, 412 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: or even like honey mustard. I like, I like like 413 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: all of those kinds of things, but the standard. And 414 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: I think you could acknowledge that, even if you don't 415 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: like ketchup, the standard has always been ketchup and fries. 416 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: How am I weak? 417 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Because that's something that I enjoy like millions of other people. 418 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: You're outdated, Ryan, You're aging antiquated, You're aging yourself there, Mustard, Dave. 419 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: If I had Dave in the room, Dave would absolutely 420 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: be on my side on this. 421 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: Are you sure about that? 422 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: You don't think Dave likes ketchup and and uh French fries. 423 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: He looks like you know, Dave, I think ket and 424 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: fries guy both. 425 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: Well, I'd like multiple things to do. 426 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: You do? You don't My Betty does both with his fries. 427 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm putting money down. I don't think he does 428 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: mustard and fries. Cents Okay, allegedly a couple of more 429 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: texts here, try a little mustard on your potato chips. 430 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know. 431 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: That's that. 432 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: That's interesting that's a little interesting. 433 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm going to trust our art 434 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: text and unless you know how it tastes tomorrow. 435 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: As a mustard person, I'm assuming you do not like pepsi? 436 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: Is that a truth? Is that a real thing? 437 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: I like, I see people getting mad at me when 438 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: I say this. I don't mind pepsi or coke. 439 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't matter to you. 440 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: I have a coke actually sitting in the fridge waiting 441 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: for me to get home today. 442 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: That's exciting. 443 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 3: And then I had a pepsi yesterday, you know, and 444 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: this is an off. 445 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: Season things in season. 446 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: And I don't really drink Annisota, but like I love it, 447 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: so it's pretty what's your favorite soda? 448 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: You know? 449 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: For the longest time, I was a mountain dew guy. 450 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: Me too at one point. 451 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you know what, a as I got older, 452 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: I really got into root beer, like root beer kind 453 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: of and again not every ruber like like higher end 454 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: stuff like like Spikers, like fancy. 455 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: Piker's not fancy enough for you. 456 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't think I've tried that one. 457 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: You've never heard of Spiker's rut beer? No, No, that 458 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 3: must really be a Wisconsin thing. 459 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but yeah, like we'll go. 460 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: We'll go places that because sometimes in some breweries they'll 461 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: have like pretty fancy rupper if you do you want that, 462 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: So I have a chance to try that. 463 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: But I say those those are my two favorites. 464 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: And actually it is made in Milwaukee, and I had 465 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: no clue. I thought it was just you know, I 466 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: grew up in Milwaukee. So I'm thinking this is something 467 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: that everybody got to try. 468 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: Rud No, let's hear I I just speaking of soda. 469 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: I just spin out my soap soda. 470 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: When Shelby said, didn't know that was your end game 471 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: when he was referencing me somehow propping up the Nuggets 472 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: and trying to diminish the Broncos, which is couldn't be 473 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: further from the truth. 474 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: In fact, I would, I don't. I don't. 475 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish any of the teams locally. 476 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the teams. I grew up in 477 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: New Mexico. We didn't have teams. My dad is a 478 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Denver kid. We grew up with as a Broncos. 479 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: Household in New Mexico. In New Mexico, but. 480 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: We were at the mercy of the TV stations, cause 481 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: we didn't have like NFL package or anything that didn't exist. 482 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: I did TV out there, No right, it was very 483 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: late developing. We had black and white for a long time. 484 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: Wait. Wait, Susie does ketchup on her steak. 485 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: I've heard of people to do that. 486 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 487 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: Also does the same thing. 488 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: Send them to a mental home, get them checked out. 489 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: If you love, if you love your loved ones, you 490 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: should never let them do ketchup on steak. That is disgusting, 491 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: absolutely gross. 492 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: Ryan, I like tater Toss with ketchup. My favorite color 493 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: is clear. 494 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Okay that, but Tato toots and ketchup is also goaded. 495 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: Big fan of that. 496 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 3: Eh, What tater toss and mustard and tater tots and 497 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: Ranch and if we really want to feel special, Ranch 498 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: with some hot sauce in it, Chef's kiss. 499 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Ranch with hot sauce. I've never even considered that, Are 500 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: you serious? I like hot sauce. I like hot sauce. 501 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: I liked Ranch. 502 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever considered mixing them. 503 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 504 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, It's just it's one of those things, like 505 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: my brain has never joined that way. 506 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: I guess. 507 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: Oh that's that's amazing. 508 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I have a new thing to try. Yes 509 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: you do, Yes, I do. 510 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: I love hot sauce and I like I like Franch, 511 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I mean, really, how do you 512 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: hate Ranch? I guess some people actually a lot of 513 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: people actually hate that. 514 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: True. 515 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: So writing out our conversation about defensive lineman the best? 516 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: What makes a great defensive lineman? Like in your opinion? 517 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Like again, I understand it's a self serving question because 518 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: you played the position, But we just watched the Seattle. 519 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: Seahawks perform the way they did. 520 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: We just got done talking about what Kyle van Noy 521 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: was saying is how this is going to be the 522 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: new what everybody's searching for. 523 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: Right. 524 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if he says everybody wants an Aaron Donald, 525 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: will due, right? I mean, who doesn't want an Aaron Donald. 526 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: But the point of it is, it matters. And you 527 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: saw what Seattle was able to do, and and you 528 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: want to have a stout front, and you need a 529 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: mixture of guys that can stop the run, right, and 530 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: you need to make sure guys that can get up 531 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: and rush the passer. Sometimes it can't be both either. 532 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna, I guess, let me ask you this. 533 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: If you're designing a perfect defensive line, what does that 534 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: look like? 535 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: All right? Are you talking about the energy tackle? Because 536 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 3: they're too completely different, they are different. It started it 537 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: started to tackle. If I'm if I want a good 538 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: three tech you're talking about if I'm scouting them, like 539 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: from college, check what I'm looking for, all right, what 540 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 3: I would to be looking for. And I hope all 541 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 3: these teams are listening in case they're want to give 542 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: me a scouting job. I want a guy who consistently 543 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: I would time is get off. I would look at 544 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 3: his leverage and see how low he can play, especially 545 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: the taller guys that some of the taller guys like 546 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: to stand up a little bit too much, and and that, 547 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: and the shorter guards can get under them. And so 548 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: I need a d tackle that can play the run 549 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: and it can be physical enough on play action and 550 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: get off the block and get a field and it 551 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: hit stuff. Obviously everyone knows about third down. You gotta 552 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: be able to rush, but most of the game is. 553 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: Not third down, and so it's a great point. 554 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: So a guy that can take on a double team 555 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: and not get moved and be able to not just 556 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: take it on, but be able to come free and 557 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: make a play. What I'll be looking for is an 558 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: effort when the plays away from you, are you running 559 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: to the ball or are you just stopping? You know, 560 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: in college, I see a lot of lazy D line 561 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: play and it seems like no one ever corrects it. 562 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: But in the league, that extra body coming across to 563 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: be the difference between a guy breaking a long run 564 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: and our TSL So I need to see a guy 565 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: who one then for me, I think, and I'm biased 566 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: because I have extremely long arms, but I like d 567 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: lineman to have long arms because I want I don't 568 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: want the old lineman to get a hold of you. 569 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: I want you to be able to strike, extend, and 570 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: have some space to play with where the old line 571 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: is not just holding on to your sides, onto your 572 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: shoulder pads and now it's going one for one. And 573 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: I've always been a believer of especially if we're talking 574 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: about four to three, three four. Obviously I played in 575 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: both when I was here, we were three four. I've 576 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: been in four to three the last three years. And 577 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: I guess the biggest thing that has nothing to do 578 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: with physicality or anything like that. Is the football IQ? 579 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: Do you know football? Do you know football? 580 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: And is that important thing as a defensive lineman. 581 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: Because every play, you know, if it's. 582 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm not asking that sarcastically, I'm saying, you're going forward 583 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: like every single time. 584 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: Not necessarily if you're three four you're going sideways. But 585 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: if you're going forward, the idea is if you the 586 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: more you can do before the snap, the better. Most 587 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: of the play is calculated before the snap. So the 588 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: idea is I'm looking about where the running back is. 589 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: I'm looking at his mannerisms. I'm looking at how the 590 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: offensive tackles are set in their stands. Are they up 591 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: high with their foot all the way with their back 592 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: foot all the way back? That means it's going to 593 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: be passed. Are they are their feet more even and 594 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 3: that means they're going more side to side or coming 595 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: at you, So it's a run or to be play action. 596 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: I think there's so many things that you can look 597 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: at as a d lineman, and I guess the easiest thing, 598 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: especially if you're a run you know, a run defender, 599 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams to shotgun that eliminates half 600 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: the blocks you can get. It is when you know 601 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: the run can only go a certain direction. So if 602 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: the back is away from you, you know the blockers 603 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 3: aren't running away from you. That's the only way they 604 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: can run. It is towards you. So more likely it's 605 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: going to be a double team or it's going to 606 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: be a zone where you have to move and make 607 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: a play. And so that's why, like, it's so much 608 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: thought that goes into playing de tackle before the play. 609 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: You know. One of the best guys I like to 610 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: talk to about this is Millie Collins. Actually he brought 611 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: me eli with teammates in Dallas. This is my third year, 612 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: his rookie year, and then now we're teammates again obviously 613 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: in Cleveland. But so much of Malice Star processes before 614 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: the play, you know what I mean, what he does 615 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: during the play is the same thing he does every 616 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: play he gets off. And you have to have a plan, 617 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: but so much of your of your pastor's plan on 618 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: if it's you know, looking at down in distances. The 619 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: best d lineman are the ones that can steal one 620 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: or two plays a game because they already knew what 621 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: was coming. And if you can do if you can 622 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: steal sack once a game. That's seventeen sacks. That's a 623 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: great season. If you've ever been in the Bay, you're 624 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: not going from like in the middle of Rushaw, you're 625 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: not going down from San Francisco to San Jose. A 626 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: car a chance. Now you can take Bart Bart that's 627 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: the train. Okay out there, we're like, it's a lot 628 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: of stuff that happens. 629 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: I just say, if your woman wants to take you 630 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: to a concert where it's it's that kind of music, 631 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: I think you roll with the punches, my friend. That's all. 632 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: They went to. I don't want anymore, so. 633 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I said no, bitchamin all right and studio, Hi Ben 634 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: going on? What's going on with your show? Coming up 635 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: here a little bit. We will discuss things, so I 636 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: can't wait. 637 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: I just want to say this one last thing. I 638 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: got screwed. 639 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: No you didn't. 640 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: I want to show me the money. Show me the money, 641 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: because are you. 642 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Taking over the Dave Logan roll here where you're calling 643 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: collusion or day. Well, that's fine, I'll be fine with 644 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: you going last. I'm just saying he always accuses us 645 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: of changing his picks. 646 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: I feel like you did, or you changed the score 647 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: because last time when I looked, they won by like fifty. 648 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: Today when I loved look seven, I was not okay 649 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: with that. 650 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: The number is the number. Don't make Grant pull audio. 651 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: You you were the one that made your own pick. 652 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: You don't even have to on this one. He just 653 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: looked at the score wrong. I Grant man, I heard Grant. 654 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Let me live, Let me live. I like this last 655 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: text real quick. Seems like coaching and music in your future. 656 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: Shelby of course, Barr Simpson, Bars Bars Simpson, Bar Simpson doing. 657 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: Everything off talking about Bart Barr Simpson. 658 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: Just mixtape coming soon. 659 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: Tomorrow on the program we'll be on after the Rockies 660 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: first spring training game should end on the three o'clock 661 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Houri and Nate Jackson. 662 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: Shelby of course can be back and just looking forward 663 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: to it. Oh yeah, BCT next