Speaker 1: Now your host Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: wl WU.
Speaker 2: Well, good Saturday to you. It is a gorgeous saturday
Speaker 2: here in the Tri State. Stand by because apparently tomorrow
Speaker 2: it all goes south. But yes, a gorgeous day here
Speaker 2: in the Tri State. You may not be aware of this,
Speaker 2: so I'm just alerting you as a matter of public service.
Speaker 2: But today is no King's Day, so deemed by the
Speaker 2: Democrats and their cohorts, no King's Day. And of course
Speaker 2: they're massive protests all over the country, largely at Donald
Speaker 2: Trump and Ice. And that's the reason why, of course
Speaker 2: I find it fascinating. You might too, that we live
Speaker 2: in a republic. If we did have monarchy ruling our country,
Speaker 2: there would not be, under any set of circumstances a
Speaker 2: protest allowed against the king. Has anybody thought that one? Through?
Speaker 2: My guess is a Keem Jefferies is not. But that's
Speaker 2: just a wild guess on my part. But it's no
Speaker 2: King's Day, and we continue to be separated as a country,
Speaker 2: and we continue to fight a government shutdown. Really, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen the effects of it yet on a personal basis,
Speaker 2: Perhaps that's coming. But somebody that knows about these kinds
Speaker 2: of things because he lived it and he tried to
Speaker 2: prevent it and now is viewing it from the outside
Speaker 2: of the US House of Representatives. It's a good guest
Speaker 2: of our program. He is former Congressman Jim Baci. And Jim,
Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious No King's Day?
Speaker 3: Well, Ken, I'm doing great. It's a beautiful day in Ohio.
Speaker 3: So that we should be happy about more than a
Speaker 3: No King's Day?
Speaker 2: It amazes me. And I want to ask you and
Speaker 2: I have visited about the shutdown and how it's easily
Speaker 2: avoidable and who ultimately gets blamed for it. But it
Speaker 2: would seem to me that the reason why we don't
Speaker 2: have the government up and running right now is because
Speaker 2: it was focused, or there was focus by the Democrats
Speaker 2: on this day. They wanted a day where they could
Speaker 2: just massively protest against the president and what he's doing
Speaker 2: with ice. That seems to be what this is all about,
Speaker 2: and it seems to me why we don't have a
Speaker 2: government up and running at this point. Am I too
Speaker 2: simplistic here with this this analysis?
Speaker 3: Jim, Well, look, my opinion might be a little bit different.
Speaker 3: I think we don't have a government up and running
Speaker 3: because we don't have Republicans and Democrats in Washington trying
Speaker 3: to get it open. And who's the blame will be
Speaker 3: really decided by the people. It's who has the best message.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: This is what's so frustrated Ken. It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why I left Washington is because I can tell
Speaker 3: you when Bayner was Speaker and we were shut down,
Speaker 3: we didn't leave Washington. There were no fundraisers, there was
Speaker 3: nothing going on. We stayed there until we could get
Speaker 3: an agreement done. And that's what frustrates me more than
Speaker 3: anything that both sides, you know, the House and the
Speaker 3: Senate seemed to be okay going home.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and Johnson just yesterday Mike Johnson, Speaker of
Speaker 2: the House, told all of his oh well, everybody in Congress,
Speaker 2: just stay home for another week and work in your districts.
Speaker 2: But here's what I don't understand, so help me. We
Speaker 2: have we had a clean resolution by and large that
Speaker 2: was a continuing resolution, a clean continuing resolution that was
Speaker 2: passed in I want to say, late spring, and the
Speaker 2: Democrats have historically been okay with that. They just push
Speaker 2: it through, push it through, and we just kicked the
Speaker 2: ball down the road with our budget. That's a problem
Speaker 2: in and of itself. I understand that, Jim, But we've
Speaker 2: had that in the past. Well they don't. They didn't
Speaker 2: do it this time because they felt shut out the
Speaker 2: Democrats from the discussion about what happens to some of
Speaker 2: the provisions of Obamacare, which will expire at the end
Speaker 2: of this current year. So instead of agreeing to a
Speaker 2: continuing people getting paid, they said, no, we're not going
Speaker 2: to vote I'm talking about the Democrats in the Senate. No,
Speaker 2: we're not going to vote for this. And then we
Speaker 2: have this this cr that carries us through the end
Speaker 2: of the year because we feel left out to put
Speaker 2: the heat I suppose on Mike Johnson and John Thune
Speaker 2: and bring them to a deadline to get this done. Well,
Speaker 2: it didn't get done. And so my question is, yeah,
Speaker 2: I understand what Johnson is doing. That's his way of saying,
Speaker 2: we're not going to have a discussion in the House.
Speaker 2: We've already had that discussion. It's already passed. I don't
Speaker 2: really understand what Thune is doing in the Senate because
Speaker 2: they keep bringing up these votes and they keep getting
Speaker 2: shot down, and it seems to be more for optics
Speaker 2: than anything else. On John Thune's part, I just don't
Speaker 2: understand the process.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a little more to it than that too.
Speaker 3: You know, if you think about on the House, what
Speaker 3: the Speaker Johnson has said was, look, we already passed
Speaker 3: our bill, and as soon you guys pass it, we'll
Speaker 3: come back and we'll start doing the appropriation bills, and
Speaker 3: we'll start you know, getting the budget pass and all
Speaker 3: the things that we need to done, and we'll start
Speaker 3: negotiating these healthcare issues. The problem is Ken is that
Speaker 3: the optics are not good for him either, because he
Speaker 3: needs to get back and start doing all those other things.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's holding out, but you still have appropriation
Speaker 3: bills that need pass, You still have a budget needs pass.
Speaker 3: All of these things need pass, and they need to negotiate.
Speaker 3: So I keep looking at this really from the outside saying, wow,
Speaker 3: if he was smart, he have everybody in there saying, look,
Speaker 3: we passed the cr now let's just get let's just get.
Speaker 2: Our our ducts in order.
Speaker 3: With all this other stuff too. You see, it's not
Speaker 3: going to be the Republicans or Democrats who make a
Speaker 3: decision on who gets elected next November, it's going to
Speaker 3: be the Independence and the Independents are looking at this
Speaker 3: a lot different than you are. I might be looking
Speaker 3: at it, they're looking at it as you know. I
Speaker 3: don't like what the Republicans are doing. I like what
Speaker 3: the Democrats are down and in the end, they're going
Speaker 3: to make the decision, and I think the better message
Speaker 3: wins and that's going to be the key.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you just kind of outlined what you think
Speaker 2: should be done. I'm guessing here, but correct me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. If you were Mike Johnson, you would have
Speaker 2: never sent the house out. They never dismissed the house.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have sent them home. You would have kept
Speaker 2: them in Washington until this thing got done. Am I right?
Speaker 4: We look right?
Speaker 3: I mean I've been in business for thirty years. I've
Speaker 3: negotiated a lot of deals. The minute you leave the
Speaker 3: tables a minute that the negotiating and the dealing is over.
Speaker 2: I just believe.
Speaker 3: And that's why I had a lot of respect when
Speaker 3: John Bayner said we're not leaving. In fact, don't go home.
Speaker 3: Don't be seen in your districts, because people are going
Speaker 3: to say, how come you're not back in Washington getting
Speaker 3: this done. So I disagree with Speaker John since doing
Speaker 3: but I mean, look, he's the Speaker, he can do
Speaker 3: what he wants. We'll see what happens next November, because
Speaker 3: people are going to remember this. Yes, they're going to say, well,
Speaker 3: the Speaker wasn't in and you know, the House wasn't
Speaker 3: doing their job, and then it just comes down to
Speaker 3: I just want to throw everybody out. See, that's the fear,
Speaker 3: you know. Can I always hear people say, well, nobody's
Speaker 3: going to vote for a Democrat. Well, time out. What's
Speaker 3: going to happen is people are going to say, and
Speaker 3: this has happened. It's how the Republicans came rolling in
Speaker 3: back in twenty ten.
Speaker 4: Everybody was tired.
Speaker 3: Of Obama and the Democrats, and they were voting for
Speaker 3: Republicans just because they didn't want Democrats there anymore. We
Speaker 3: have to be really careful as Republicans. That's the fear
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: Okay, so somebody's got a blink here, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: somebody's got a blink. And I don't think either side
Speaker 2: wants to lose face on this thing. Schumer has his
Speaker 2: own set of problems in New York, with perhaps a
Speaker 2: political play there on his seat. And the Republicans have
Speaker 2: the House and they have the Senate. They certainly don't
Speaker 2: want to lose the House because the first thing the
Speaker 2: Democrats will do if they gain control of the House
Speaker 2: is impeach Trump yet again. I mean, there's all kinds
Speaker 2: of you know, sub stories going on with all of this.
Speaker 2: So who blinks? How do you get this from where
Speaker 2: it is to where it's got to be? What would
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Right now, I think the Democrats can't. They can't blink.
Speaker 3: They're in this, They're locked in. They have to hang
Speaker 3: out long enough until these subsidies become a problem. These
Speaker 3: subsidies affect twenty five million people. Now, the argument that
Speaker 3: well a lot of these subsidies are illegal immigrants just
Speaker 3: isn't true. There are a lot of people out of
Speaker 3: those twenty five million who need the subsidies to have
Speaker 3: their health insurance. And I think that's going to be
Speaker 3: their argument. They're going to continue to push and push
Speaker 3: and say, look, we want this healthcare deal. Now we
Speaker 3: don't think you're going to negotiate fairly. You wouldn't negotiate
Speaker 3: with us on this cr and now you think we
Speaker 3: should just sign it and you're going to negotiate. So
Speaker 3: that's going to be their argument. I think in the end. Whoever,
Speaker 3: So if they're asking me what I think happens, I
Speaker 3: do think at some point in time Republicans go back
Speaker 3: in and they support the subsidies, and whether they support
Speaker 3: it and sign the clean CR with something in writing,
Speaker 3: whether they do it all at once. But like I'm
Speaker 3: hearing from some of my colleagues that.
Speaker 2: Are still there, they hit.
Speaker 3: In fact, I got a call from one of them
Speaker 3: about a week or so ago, says, Jim, do you
Speaker 3: believe how much we fought to make sure Obamacare never survived?
Speaker 4: And you're now.
Speaker 3: You're going to see Republicans supporting Obamacare subsidies before the
Speaker 3: end of this year's up, and that's going to be
Speaker 3: a real change. Marjorie Taylor Green has already come out
Speaker 3: and said she supports them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the I think the heat'll get
Speaker 2: turned up in the districts the folly. Maybe what Johnson
Speaker 2: has done is he sent everybody home, But when they
Speaker 2: get home, they see the people they represent on the street,
Speaker 2: and there's going to be some arm twisting there. But truthfully,
Speaker 2: Jim and I think for the average person walking around
Speaker 2: on the street, the guy that works, the guy that
Speaker 2: pays taxes. I haven't seen the effects of the shutdown yet.
Speaker 2: People say, well, the government's shut down and there's so
Speaker 2: many percent I haven't felt it. Am I an anomaly?
Speaker 2: Have you felt it? I'm just wondering who's felt this.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, unless you're dealing with the government. So I'm
Speaker 3: dealing with the i r S on a couple issues personally,
Speaker 3: and for some good luck for some clients, well yeah,
Speaker 3: they're all out of they're all out of town right now.
Speaker 3: So nothing's getting done when it comes to the I
Speaker 3: r S, which is a problem. But the real issue
Speaker 3: is these people aren't getting paid. And you've got to
Speaker 3: feel sorry for our military. You got to feel sorry
Speaker 3: for the air traffic controllers be enforced to go in
Speaker 3: and not be paid.
Speaker 4: That is just not right. That is not right.
Speaker 3: And remember there are people already in the House that
Speaker 3: have said, we have a bill. There were Republicans and
Speaker 3: Democrats in the House that have said we need to
Speaker 3: come back, we should at least pass a bill making
Speaker 3: sure our military gets paid and some of these essential
Speaker 3: services get paid. So that's another issue going on. That
Speaker 3: these independents are going to say, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: I think the Democrats were pretty reasonable. They want to
Speaker 3: go back in and at least get these people paid.
Speaker 3: And it's going to be the messaging who wins the messaging,
Speaker 3: because ultimately a shutdown, the only people that really lose
Speaker 3: with the American people. And as you said, you're not
Speaker 3: feeling the effects, but I can tell you the cost
Speaker 3: of a shutdown are dramatic. The economy, all the things.
Speaker 3: It's a ripple effect that will hurt our economy. It'll
Speaker 3: cost our you know, GDP. It hurts, and you just
Speaker 3: don't fill it immediately, but it will hurt over the
Speaker 3: next few months and weeks.
Speaker 2: Former US Congressman from the Great State of Ohio, Jim
Speaker 2: and Acy our guest here in seven hundred at WLWO.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's had a great month month and a half internationally.
Speaker 2: He's going to try his hand again with Ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 2: But to fold that back into what we've been just
Speaker 2: talking about, I think he's getting high marks there. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this as just an average citizen. You've
Speaker 2: been there where the sausage is made. I don't sense
Speaker 2: that any of this really comes to a head until
Speaker 2: Trump is affected. If Trump feels like he's being affected
Speaker 2: and that it's folding back on him, then I think
Speaker 2: he gets involved and you start seeing pressure from him
Speaker 2: on Thune and on Johnson. It's all fun in games
Speaker 2: right now. But I think the minute it starts folding
Speaker 2: on him and his numbers start to create, then I
Speaker 2: think this thing starts to come to a head. You know, again,
Speaker 2: MI a little too simplistic with my analysis here.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're exactly right. If this was affecting
Speaker 3: President Trump, he would have had it settled already. You know,
Speaker 3: I've heard this too. Donald Trump traveled to Egypt to
Speaker 3: settle dispute between people who did not get along. Why
Speaker 3: isn't he in Washington, d C. Bringing the House and
Speaker 3: the Senate in. So that's another issue that independents are
Speaker 3: of looking at. So I keep, you know, bringing up
Speaker 3: this stuff. But you're right, it's not affecting him right now.
Speaker 3: He and he can blame the House and the Senate
Speaker 3: at this stage. He could sit back to the White
Speaker 3: House say it's not my problem, it's not my fault,
Speaker 3: it's those guys over there. And I think, right now,
Speaker 3: that's his easy way out. But you know, as the
Speaker 3: economy starts to have problems, as it becomes issues, I
Speaker 3: think he will be the guy who brings everybody together.
Speaker 3: I would bet you that within the next thirty days
Speaker 3: you're going to see President Trump is going to be
Speaker 3: the person who brings the House and Senate together and says,
Speaker 3: let's get this done. And he's already said he would
Speaker 3: support subsidies.
Speaker 2: Right and get it. Gives him a chance to be
Speaker 2: the hero, and lord knows, that's probably number one in
Speaker 2: his book. He loves. He loves the ability to settle
Speaker 2: things and then sit back and see what people say
Speaker 2: about it. But it's an interesting dynamic. I think it's criminal.
Speaker 2: We're not paying the troops. Criminal, we're not playing the
Speaker 2: air traffic controllers. Same with ICE. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: there are things that are out there and mechanisms out
Speaker 2: there where they're trying to get money to those people,
Speaker 2: but you know, we depend on those people just to
Speaker 2: function on a daily basis. And in the case of ICE,
Speaker 2: you can say what you want about whether or not
Speaker 2: what they're doing is right or wrong. That's what America
Speaker 2: voted for. And they're trying to clean up the act
Speaker 2: of the last four years that has just been absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 2: So yeah, those people need to get paid, and you
Speaker 2: need to get back to your weekend. Jim. We've tied
Speaker 2: you up far too long. There's probably a fair way
Speaker 2: out there screaming for a great tea shot or a
Speaker 2: grandchild screaming for ice cream. So we'll let you go,
Speaker 2: only to talk again down the road. Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you all right. Well, by now there you go,
Speaker 2: Jim Ornacy. We love Jim because he is so he's
Speaker 2: not a zealot. He's not somebody that is on TV
Speaker 2: even he's off, is on TV screaming about what's we're
Speaker 2: right there wrong and all that. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: good common sense and that's why I like having him
Speaker 2: on the show. It is twelve twenty two on this Saturday,
Speaker 2: believe it or not. At two o'clock today, we have
Speaker 2: a Xavier exhibition basketball game. Yes, we're going to have
Speaker 2: Joe and Byron today at noon at two o'clock. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what if that doesn't get you ready
Speaker 2: for the fall, I don't know what will. But they'll
Speaker 2: have the exhibition game live from the Sintas Center today.
Speaker 2: I believe it's Murray State that we'll be taking on Xavier,
Speaker 2: and Richard Fatino makes his debut as Xavier coach today.
Speaker 2: So stay two for that fun and Ferrality for vrolity,
Speaker 2: and of course down the road, we got uc football
Speaker 2: right here on the home of everything that moves, sweats
Speaker 2: and wears a uniform. Seven hundred WLW twelve twenty nine
Speaker 2: News Radio seven hundred WLW. I am ken Brew coming
Speaker 2: up on the show today. We are a divided society
Speaker 2: and we are divided not just along party lines, but
Speaker 2: we are divided in terms of gender, we are divided
Speaker 2: in terms of demographic, We are in divided nation in
Speaker 2: terms of generation. And how do you bring it together?
Speaker 2: How do you make it work. Doctor Peter Lumage, who
Speaker 2: I've had on the show before, is back and doctor
Speaker 2: Lumage came to this country legally from Albania to escape
Speaker 2: socialism and now he's watching it try to embed itself
Speaker 2: into our country. And he seems to think that one
Speaker 2: of the reasons why democracy is on the run is
Speaker 2: because it's not really serving Americans at this point the
Speaker 2: way it should. So we're going to talk to him
Speaker 2: about how you bring everybody together, not the Kumbaya, but
Speaker 2: just to make this damn thing work. And then one six.
Speaker 2: This is I think a very interesting story. There's a
Speaker 2: band called the Atlanta Rhythm Section. They were big back
Speaker 2: in the seventies. Their lead singer is Rodney Justo. He
Speaker 2: jumped and left the band in the middle of its popularity,
Speaker 2: went off and tried to do his own thing, wound
Speaker 2: up stacking wine bottles in a grocery store in Florida.
Speaker 2: But now he's back with the Atlanta Rhythm Section and
Speaker 2: they are coming to the Ludlow Garage later this month.
Speaker 2: We're going to spend some time with Rodney Rodney Justo,
Speaker 2: all of that and more as we cruise till two
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW OH but thirty seven News Radio
Speaker 2: seven hundred at w WELW, I can brew good. Saturday
Speaker 2: afternoon two o'clock, it'll be an exhibission game between Xavier
Speaker 2: University and Murray State. Joe Sunderman and Byron Larkin back
Speaker 2: tickling the airwaves with their dulcet tones as the Richard
Speaker 2: Patino era begins. Of course, later on tonight we have
Speaker 2: uc Oklahoma State. They go out to Stillwater Oklahoma. I
Speaker 2: worked in Oklahoma many years ago, many years ago, and
Speaker 2: used to cover games in Stillwater. As I recall, that
Speaker 2: football stadium is laid out. Most football stadiums are laid
Speaker 2: out in north south. This one is laid out east west.
Speaker 2: And they would get out in Oklahoma these storms, they
Speaker 2: were called northeasters, where you might be, you know, walking
Speaker 2: around in short sleeves and the temperature is seventy eight
Speaker 2: eighty degrees and three hours later it's thirty eight degrees
Speaker 2: and there's hail falling from the sky. But that was
Speaker 2: like a wind tunnel. That stadium out there at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2: They made great improvements over the years. T Boone Pickens,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know that name, the oil guy, big time,
Speaker 2: big city, big deal oil guy. T. Boone Pickens is
Speaker 2: an alumnus of that school and has put a lot
Speaker 2: of money into its athletic programs, and one of which
Speaker 2: was an upgrade of the stadium. But man, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what. When I was out there, the head coach
Speaker 2: was Jimmy Johnson. Yes, that's Jimmy Johnson. And you'd go
Speaker 2: to games there and it would just the win would
Speaker 2: as the song Oklahoma says the wind would come woving
Speaker 2: down the plane. Eight o'clock the kickoff time. The night
Speaker 2: weather looks good the UC the Oklahoma State game is
Speaker 2: just one of many on the schedule today. We want
Speaker 2: to talk about. Well, by the way, I said it
Speaker 2: was twelve thirty, as you and I both know, it's
Speaker 2: five o'clock somewhere. There's one for you. There's one for me. Well,
Speaker 2: there's one for the ages. I did light up ajpup
Speaker 2: top again. Alan Jackson, Baby, here's one for you.
Speaker 4: I've just got time for one more round.
Speaker 2: Sit them up, my praying, then what happens.
Speaker 4: And now be gone and you can live. Some of the.
Speaker 2: Fools sit down now. Unfortunately, Sterling is not into daddy. Nevertheless,
Speaker 2: we press on, Yeah, you see Oklahoma State tonight number
Speaker 2: twenty four in the country. Cincinnati is five and one,
Speaker 2: three and oh in the Big twelve, Oklahoma State one
Speaker 2: and five oh and three in the Big twelve, and
Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati is a twenty four point favorite.
Speaker 2: Why Oklahoma State and its last five games, has scored
Speaker 2: a grand total of seventy two points. It's about fourteen
Speaker 2: points per game. Nevertheless, Scott Saderfield here now Scott talking
Speaker 2: about Oklahoma State and their offense and the fact they
Speaker 2: have a wide receiver now playing quarterback. Yeah, you have
Speaker 2: to be ready for everything.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a team that you know.
Speaker 5: Obviously they haven't had the best of the year, but
Speaker 5: they already is homecoming. They do have a lot of pride.
Speaker 5: All the alumni will be coming back. They want to
Speaker 5: play on a great show for their fans. You know,
Speaker 5: they got proud about themselves as well. So they're gonna
Speaker 5: We're gonna get their best shot.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. I believe UC was out there a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. It did not go well and it
Speaker 2: you know, with the portal with nil, every single football
Speaker 2: team changes its personnel and its look and its ability
Speaker 2: to win almost on a yearly basis. So here's Brendan
Speaker 2: Soresby on the just the difference from one year to
Speaker 2: the next, one time against Oklahoma State to Glahoma State.
Speaker 6: Right now, just to culture, you know that we've established
Speaker 6: everybody understands our goal is to you know, being Dallas
Speaker 6: at the end of the year. Our goal isn't just
Speaker 6: to make it to a bowl game. So you know,
Speaker 6: the message is still the same. Go wan to know
Speaker 6: this week and just find a way to get better.
Speaker 2: Now, if they win, they go to six and one.
Speaker 2: You remember last year they're five and two and then
Speaker 2: the bottom falls out. They're five and one right now.
Speaker 2: And it's not just a bowl game and being Bowl eligible,
Speaker 2: as he said there will win tonight and their Bowl eligible.
Speaker 2: It's it's much more than that. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: look at the big twelve right now, it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's BYU is a player, Utah is a player, Cincinnati
Speaker 2: is a player. Now. I'm not saying that there are
Speaker 2: other teams that can't come in and on a given
Speaker 2: Saturday beat any one of those three teams, but you know,
Speaker 2: the cream is kind of rising to the top right now,
Speaker 2: and part of that cream is the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: So that's an eight o'clock kick. We'll be on the
Speaker 2: air with the pregame show at seven o'clock and you'll
Speaker 2: get all the play by play action with Dan Horde,
Speaker 2: Tony Pike, and Moe Egger. And by the way, while
Speaker 2: we're talking about U, see I said this on Twitter,
Speaker 2: I want to say it publicly on these airwaves right now.
Speaker 2: I am completely saddened, like most of the UC community,
Speaker 2: on the passing of Jim Kelly, who was no greater
Speaker 2: ambassador lived that was a bigger ambassador for the University
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati than Jim Kelly. He obviously was from a
Speaker 2: family that is well steeped in University of Cincinnati lore.
Speaker 2: But above that, he was just a nice guy, really
Speaker 2: really nice guy. And men could he play the guitar.
Speaker 2: We'd see him at some of the farmers' markets around
Speaker 2: town in the summertime, or you go to a bar
Speaker 2: like street side or someplace where he would perform. He
Speaker 2: knew how to pick and he left this earth farm
Speaker 2: too soon. He did make it. Last Friday night there
Speaker 2: was a big reunion of the nineteen seventy five team
Speaker 2: team coached by Tony Mason, of which he was a part.
Speaker 2: He did make it for a while there. He had
Speaker 2: helped organize that particular reunion. I know it was a
Speaker 2: big deal for him, and made it as part of
Speaker 2: it for about an hour on Friday night of last
Speaker 2: week and then passed away on Sunday morning. But that's
Speaker 2: a giant hole for the UC community. And I hope,
Speaker 2: not sure, but I hope a lot of the players
Speaker 2: that are on the field tonight know exactly what he
Speaker 2: meant to that school. Just a really really good guy. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's at eight o'clock tonight, coming up at three point thirty.
Speaker 2: You have Ohio State number one in the country at
Speaker 2: Wisconsin OSU six and OH three and oh in the
Speaker 2: Big Ten, Wisconsin two and four under Luke Fickel the
Speaker 2: Fickle's seat. There is tenuous two and four, zero to
Speaker 2: three inside the conference, and Ohio State is a twenty
Speaker 2: five point favorite in this game. Ryan Day on Wisconsin
Speaker 2: as he this must have been at his news conference
Speaker 2: this week Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 7: Now, I know the season hasn't gone the way that
Speaker 7: they've expected it to go, but at the same time.
Speaker 2: Put the film on.
Speaker 7: You know, they're one of the better defenses in the country,
Speaker 7: and you know it takes is, you know, a few
Speaker 7: big plays and getting the offense and rhythm and they're
Speaker 7: going to be in these games.
Speaker 2: And so we know that. I don't think they're going
Speaker 2: to be in today's game. We'll see twenty five points
Speaker 2: is a hefty number for a home team. You got
Speaker 2: to be tickled by that a little bit, but I
Speaker 2: don't I would stray from that. Ohio State Wisconsin three
Speaker 2: point thirty. We have a NOOM game that has just
Speaker 2: kicked off Eastern Michigan at Miami up in Oxford, e
Speaker 2: m You two and five one two in the MAC.
Speaker 2: Miami three and three two and oh in the MAC.
Speaker 2: Miami is a thirteen point favorite. Another noon game that
Speaker 2: kicked off out in Athens. It's homecoming for Ohio University
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois at Ohio, Ohio favorite in that game despite
Speaker 2: laying an egg at Ball State couple of saturdays ago,
Speaker 2: but homecoming for the Bobcats. I got excited. I bought
Speaker 2: tickets for that game. I thought I wasn't on the air.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a game, you see what was playing.
Speaker 2: I got a chance to go to Athens for homecoming.
Speaker 2: Then I realized that the game wasn't last Saturday, it
Speaker 2: was this Saturday. So I'm dining on those homecoming in Athens.
Speaker 2: They've just kicked off. Now we've got a seven o'clock
Speaker 2: game tonight. Number twenty one Texas at four and two,
Speaker 2: one and one inside the SEC is at Kentucky down
Speaker 2: in Liewill, down in Lexington, Kentucky two and three oh
Speaker 2: and three in the SEC, and Kentucky is getting twelve
Speaker 2: and a half in this game tonight. This will be
Speaker 2: a rather large win if Mark Stoops team can pull
Speaker 2: it off. To pull it off, they will have to
Speaker 2: corral Arch Manning, the quarterback of Texas. Here's Stoops on
Speaker 2: Manning earlier this week.
Speaker 8: Do you see a very very good football player that's
Speaker 8: getting better, you know, each and every game, more comfortable,
Speaker 8: but a guy that just really will wow you. You
Speaker 8: know a certain place, you know, I think it, you know,
Speaker 8: just you know, simple things. I mean, watched this last
Speaker 8: game and I want to say it was a four
Speaker 8: point game. Backed up Oklahoma, got great pressure on him,
Speaker 8: evades the pressure and throws the strike.
Speaker 2: He did that time and time again. Twelve and a
Speaker 2: half is what Kentucky is getting at home in this game.
Speaker 2: They were off last weekend. Hopefully they've fixed some of
Speaker 2: the problems that they've had. They've had a myriad of problems.
Speaker 2: But two and three Kentucky against four and two Texas
Speaker 2: tonight at seven three point thirty. Today, you have Michigan
Speaker 2: State at number three Indiana, Michigan State three and three,
Speaker 2: zero and three in the Big Ten, Indiana six and
Speaker 2: oh three and oh inside the Big Ten and Kurt
Speaker 2: Signetti just got that big contract this week. Indiana is good. Uh, Indiana.
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if Indiana's a Final four
Speaker 2: team this year. They're number three in the country. And
Speaker 2: Indiana is giving twenty seven and a half points twenty
Speaker 2: seven and a half points in this game today to
Speaker 2: Michigan State and Signetti here he is speaking earlier this week.
Speaker 3: But we got good players to prepare and like to
Speaker 3: play football, and they're smart, and they make good choices
Speaker 3: and decisions on the field.
Speaker 2: And no small reason why they're in the position they
Speaker 2: are and why he is man he is cashing in
Speaker 2: at the bank. One other thing of note that we
Speaker 2: have to mention. We don't have to mention, we want
Speaker 2: to mention it. We have soccer tonight. We have FC
Speaker 2: Cincinnati in their regular season finale. They're calling this what
Speaker 2: are they calling a showdown day, deadline day something or
Speaker 2: other decision decision day as teams are vying to get
Speaker 2: into the MLS playoffs or jockey for position. Here is
Speaker 2: the gambit for FC Cincinnati in this game tonight against
Speaker 2: the team from Montreal, FC Montreal. If FC Cincinnati wins tonight,
Speaker 2: it is the second seed in the Eastern Conference in
Speaker 2: the upcoming playoffs second seed. Right now, FC Cincinnati is
Speaker 2: tied for second place with Inter Miami CF that would
Speaker 2: be Messi's team. Inter Miami is also playing tonight, as
Speaker 2: are all other MLS teams. But Cincinnati wins, they're in
Speaker 2: second place. Or if Miami loses and it ends the
Speaker 2: way it is sixty two points as it ends because
Speaker 2: of tie breakers, FC Cincinnati finishes second. So you win,
Speaker 2: you're in. You lose, you're probably second. Somebody asks the
Speaker 2: coach Pat Noonan, look, you're gonna be doing a little
Speaker 2: scoreboard watching tonight, maybe to see what that team in
Speaker 2: Miami is doing.
Speaker 9: There's no reason to score watch if we go and
Speaker 9: control our what we control. If we win a game,
Speaker 9: we know we hold onto the two spots, so there's
Speaker 9: no reason to be paying attention to anything else.
Speaker 2: There. You go, focus, focus, Focus is what Noonan has
Speaker 2: been preaching this week, and we'll see if the focus
Speaker 2: narrative will hold up. We know right now, we know
Speaker 2: right now that FC Cincinnati has been playing better. They
Speaker 2: put a lot of money into their front line, and
Speaker 2: because of that, they've been putting the ball in the
Speaker 2: back of the net just a little bit better than
Speaker 2: what they have. But we shall see one of a note.
Speaker 2: We've been talking about it all day show. Hey Otani,
Speaker 2: third home run off his bat streaked towards those left
Speaker 2: field bleachers last night, and what do you know? Otani
Speaker 2: was simply electrifying one of the greatest single game performances
Speaker 2: in baseball history. Two way guy right, his thirteenth three
Speaker 2: run homer game in postseason. And not only that, the
Speaker 2: five to one victory over the Milwaukee Brewers has the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: the defending champion Dodgers, back in the World Series. Congratulations
Speaker 2: to that team. That's a good team. It's a team
Speaker 2: that proves you buy a lot of wins with a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Twelve to fifty one already, News Radio
Speaker 2: seven hundred ww One. Other thing I failed to mention,
Speaker 2: that's the American League Championship Series. Game six is tomorrow
Speaker 2: night and Seattle can wrap it up. They're up three
Speaker 2: to two. The game is in Toronto, but Seattle up
Speaker 2: three to two with Game six coming tomorrow night. So
Speaker 2: in April, the network Contagion Research Institute, I know, I
Speaker 2: never heard of it myself. Apparently there's a research institute
Speaker 2: netbook called the network contagion. If you have a network,
Speaker 2: please check to see if it's contagious anyway. This group,
Speaker 2: along with Rutgers University, largely viewed as the University of
Speaker 2: New Jersey, found that fifty five percent of self identified
Speaker 2: left of center respondents said that it was at least
Speaker 2: somewhat justified to murder President Trump. Let's think about that
Speaker 2: fifty five percent of the people this Network Contagion Research
Speaker 2: group talked to over half said that it was at
Speaker 2: least somewhat justified to murder President Trump. Is that where
Speaker 2: we are in this country? The bullets seemed to be
Speaker 2: flying one way. Let's be honest, they seem to be
Speaker 2: flying left to right. I guess we could go back
Speaker 2: to the jfk assassination. But the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 2: right now, there seems to be a problem with those
Speaker 2: who identify left of center. If you are to believe
Speaker 2: what is in this Rutgers University poll. You gov took
Speaker 2: a poll after Charlie Kirk was murdered. Eleven percent in
Speaker 2: that poll said violence can sometime be justified to achieve
Speaker 2: political goals. So what's going on here? We are divided?
Speaker 2: But now it appears that those that may identify on
Speaker 2: the left think it's ok to whip out a firearm
Speaker 2: and just blow away anybody you don't agree with politically.
Speaker 2: Do you believe this piece of research? You think it's
Speaker 2: a load of horse hockey. Coming up next is somebody
Speaker 2: who thinks all of this is off the rails, and
Speaker 2: it's going to take a lot of work to get
Speaker 2: it on the rails, because there's another poll that's out
Speaker 2: by the New York Times, and I know it, don't
Speaker 2: roll your eyes, but the New York Times shows that
Speaker 2: sixty four percent of us believe America is two divided
Speaker 2: to solve its problems. We'll get into that next. It's
Speaker 2: one o'clock News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Now your host can Brew on NewsRadio seven hundred WL seven.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the festivities. I am the aforementioned Coming
Speaker 2: up one thirty seven today, a guy who fronted one
Speaker 2: of the best bands that the seventies ever produced and
Speaker 2: then took a hiatus, left them at the peak of
Speaker 2: their popularity. But he's back. We're going to talk with
Speaker 2: Rodney Justo, lead singer Atlanta Rhythm Section. You know their hits.
Speaker 2: I'm so into you. Well, I am into you. And
Speaker 2: a lot of their guys have come and gone. Some
Speaker 2: have passed away, but they're coming back those that are left,
Speaker 2: including Rodney to the Ludlow Garage. We're going to visit
Speaker 2: about their music and where it all went off the
Speaker 2: rails for him? Where did it go off the rails
Speaker 2: for us as a country? Why is there such hatred
Speaker 2: by some people for Donald Trump? Before Donald Trump decided
Speaker 2: he wanted to run for president, he was the darling
Speaker 2: of the media. Letterman loved him, the view loved him,
Speaker 2: everybody loved Donald And all of a sudden, when Donald
Speaker 2: Trump said I'd like to be president trump Man, all
Speaker 2: hell broke loose and this country has been divided ever since.
Speaker 2: Does one man really have the power to do that?
Speaker 2: A New York Times Sieno Poul says, sixty four percent
Speaker 2: of us are two divided to solve our problems, a
Speaker 2: stunning drop and optimism compared to just a few years ago.
Speaker 2: Why is that standing by the way in on This
Speaker 2: is someone who I've had on the show before. He
Speaker 2: is doctor Peter Lumige. He is someone who emigrated to
Speaker 2: this country legally from his home in Albania. He has
Speaker 2: been here for thirty six years, achieved doctor status educationally.
Speaker 2: Now he's trying to become the Secretary of State in
Speaker 2: the Estate of connect Ticket and he's just wondering, like
Speaker 2: you and me, where all this went wrong and why
Speaker 2: the Democrats, it seemed to be, are so absolutely set
Speaker 2: against anything that Donald Trump wants to do. Let's bring
Speaker 2: them on in the aforementioned doctor, Peter Mimage, how are
Speaker 2: you on this glorious Saturday.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: How you doing I'm doing well too. I'm glad that
Speaker 2: you're here, because, as you well know, we are a
Speaker 2: country that is at each other's throats. And it's all
Speaker 2: because it seems like politics here. Now a New New
Speaker 2: York Times siena pol that shows sixty four percent of
Speaker 2: us of voters now believe America is too divided to
Speaker 2: solve its problems. And this is a stunning drop in
Speaker 2: optimism compared to just a couple of years ago. Sixty
Speaker 2: four percent, Doctor, that's two and every three of us
Speaker 2: think this thing is hopeless here in this country. Please
Speaker 2: give us some hope and tell us why. Yet again,
Speaker 2: the New York Times may be wrong.
Speaker 10: Look, I was reading the poll by the pool. But
Speaker 10: stand one thing, New York Times has not been.
Speaker 4: Doing justice to conducting these polls.
Speaker 10: And I would take that with a grain of salt
Speaker 10: when it comes to the American population. But for the
Speaker 10: fact that the American people, but for the fact that
Speaker 10: the media keeps from driving this divide between them, the academia,
Speaker 10: the politicians. Otherwise, American people ordinary posts like you and I.
Speaker 10: We wake up in the morning, we go to work,
Speaker 10: support our families. We don't think of a disliking each other. Somehow,
Speaker 10: New York Times finding that people to come up with
Speaker 10: a fall that sixty four percent or sixty three to
Speaker 10: sixty four percent of the American people believe that America
Speaker 10: cannot resolve its own challenges. They forget the fact that
Speaker 10: we have faced greater challenges in the past. You can
Speaker 10: go back to eighteen sixty one, eighteen sixty five, will
Speaker 10: report a civil war, We have the civil rights movements,
Speaker 10: we have the nine eleven attack. Somehow Americans find a
Speaker 10: way of uniting when it comes to Americanism. But New
Speaker 10: York Times, for whatever reason, you know, it's able to
Speaker 10: come up with these numbers.
Speaker 4: We still see people from all over the world.
Speaker 10: Wanting to come to the United States, both legally and illegally,
Speaker 10: because they see America as the exceptional nation that we
Speaker 10: are where people have the opportunity to live the American dream,
Speaker 10: to pursue the American dream, and every count that you
Speaker 10: have American born citizens trying to promote something that is
Speaker 10: not quite American. People like me who give United States
Speaker 10: thirty six years ago so refugee, we really are battled
Speaker 10: by it that they think that we are just another
Speaker 10: country in the world. America is that exceptional country that
Speaker 10: was founded by the founding fathers of this country, and
Speaker 10: it remains the strongest and the most prosperous and the
Speaker 10: greatest nation in the world.
Speaker 4: And I don't say that, you know, just because I
Speaker 4: live in the United States.
Speaker 10: It is the fact that when I compare it to
Speaker 10: the countries that I've visited, that I've seen, that I've
Speaker 10: lived in, it is just completely different from the rest
Speaker 10: of the war. And I think that we're maintaining that position,
Speaker 10: were maintaining out of those standards, regardless of what the
Speaker 10: New York Johnson Is reported on that bolt.
Speaker 2: But you know, Peter, it is not just the Times.
Speaker 2: In April, there was a group called the Network, Contagion
Speaker 2: Research Institute and Rutgers University sponsored this that had found
Speaker 2: that fifty five percent, fifty five percent of self identified
Speaker 2: left of center respondents said that it was at least
Speaker 2: somewhat justified to murder President Trump. In twenty seventeen, Yugov
Speaker 2: you know, the YouGov group, they were asked people, was
Speaker 2: it justified to advance political goals with violence? Eight percent
Speaker 2: said just a little bit justified. Well, they come back
Speaker 2: and they do that same poll again after Charlie Kirk
Speaker 2: was assassinated, eleven percent said violence can sometimes be justified
Speaker 2: to achieve political goals. Let's let's let's be honest here.
Speaker 2: The left of center group is a dangerous group right
Speaker 2: now now. And I think if you're getting something like
Speaker 2: what Rutger's got, and it could quite possibly be an outlier.
Speaker 2: And I don't trust any kind of uppolling. I think
Speaker 2: it is an outdated metric. But nevertheless, I don't see
Speaker 2: how you come back from something like that. That's that's
Speaker 2: that's radicalism right there, your thoughts.
Speaker 10: No one can deny the fact that we have been,
Speaker 10: you know, the United States has been radicalized in a
Speaker 10: certain group of or a certain part of the population
Speaker 10: in the United States.
Speaker 4: One of the greatest mistakes that.
Speaker 10: We have been making in the last I would say
Speaker 10: forty fifty years is that we have been importing certain
Speaker 10: cultures in the United States that they are not compatible
Speaker 10: with our values and what we stand for. Violence should
Speaker 10: never be justified to settle political differences, you know, in
Speaker 10: the United States or anyone else.
Speaker 4: In the work for that matter.
Speaker 10: But when you look at that goal, you see that
Speaker 10: the majority, that the largest majority of the Republicans disagree
Speaker 10: with that. I think it was ninety percent department mistake,
Speaker 10: or even greater. It was the fingers in the States
Speaker 10: that they believe that if you disagree with someone when
Speaker 10: it comes to certain political principles or values, violence may
Speaker 10: be justified, and that is something that we should never
Speaker 10: tolerate in the United States. But that number sometimes surprises me.
Speaker 10: That is not even higher when you see that we
Speaker 10: have professors in our institution that are promoted anti Americanism,
Speaker 10: and that they think that Republicans are evil, that President
Speaker 10: Trump is evil, that he's a notopted, that he's this
Speaker 10: passion that I mean, the way they describe the Republicans
Speaker 10: sometimes is like I'm surprised that.
Speaker 4: The number is not even higher.
Speaker 10: You barely hear Republicans or Conservatives or common sensical Democrats,
Speaker 10: including the Senator from Pennsylvania, which surprises me sometimes the
Speaker 10: left that way.
Speaker 4: The interview that he gave last night on Fox.
Speaker 10: Or he was speaking somewhere and I was following that,
Speaker 10: he said, I cannot dislike or hate Republicans. I'm the
Speaker 10: only Democrat in my family. Is that these people are
Speaker 10: not anti Americans. They are not passions, they are not
Speaker 10: these crazy give people that you think that they are.
Speaker 10: But then on the other hand, the Democrats, they stand it.
Speaker 10: But ninety percent of the media in the United States
Speaker 10: they keep them speaking or promoting negative things.
Speaker 4: But Republicans and so do.
Speaker 10: So do the educational institutions, although the newspapers sometimes and
Speaker 10: these numbers come from the left, and it's unfortunate, but
Speaker 10: you know that that number is quite you know correct
Speaker 10: when it comes especially center left, with Americans that they
Speaker 10: would believe in, you know, using violence to settle political differences.
Speaker 10: I thought that I would never see this in the
Speaker 10: United States, but unfortunately we've seen that, and we saw
Speaker 10: that with President Trump at twice there were you know,
Speaker 10: attempts on his life.
Speaker 4: We saw that with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 10: And when you look at all these assassinations in the
Speaker 10: United States or attempted assassinations in the United States, the
Speaker 10: targets have always, with the exception of JFK, been Conservatives
Speaker 10: or Republicans, and the assassins or potential assassins, they have
Speaker 10: always been on the left.
Speaker 4: And this is this is.
Speaker 10: Something that the Democrat body is going to have to
Speaker 10: come to ex terms to understand that their membership has
Speaker 10: to be somehow, Uh, the more understanding of the differences
Speaker 10: that the Republicans or the political differences that the Republicans
Speaker 10: are you know.
Speaker 4: Presenting to them.
Speaker 10: And unfortunately I don't see that happening soon enough. Actually,
Speaker 10: we need that as soon as possible, that that body
Speaker 10: is going to have to understand that.
Speaker 2: Doctor Peter Image our guest. He is a conservative strategist.
Speaker 2: He is also a candidate for elective office in Connecticut.
Speaker 2: You know, I think about things about where all of
Speaker 2: this went off the rails. I remember the debates between
Speaker 2: Nixon and Kennedy, between Carter and Ford, between Reagan and Carter,
Speaker 2: and so on, and they were all very respectful debates.
Speaker 2: We all knew that the media, even back the mainstream media,
Speaker 2: even back in the sixties, was a leaning left operation.
Speaker 2: It is hard leaning left right now, ABC, CBS, NBC.
Speaker 2: It's just the way they are. They're populated by reporters
Speaker 2: and strategists and editors that have come out of liberal institutions,
Speaker 2: and so it translates into what we see and here
Speaker 2: on a daily basis. But I think this all went
Speaker 2: off the rails more I think about it, in the
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen election. The Democrats fully believed that Hillary Clinton
Speaker 2: not only was going to be elected president, but deserved
Speaker 2: to be elected president and should have been elected president.
Speaker 2: And when it didn't happen, I think that's when all
Speaker 2: of this stuff, this Nazis and this Hitler and all that,
Speaker 2: all that diatribe that had been thrown against the right.
Speaker 2: I think it all began in the wake of that.
Speaker 2: I don't think Democrats could handle the fact that Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: whom they loved, doctor they loved before he ran for president.
Speaker 2: I don't think they could handle the fact that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump was now president of the United States and the
Speaker 2: Golden Hillary was not.
Speaker 4: Am I wrong, No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 10: Actually, the keyword that you used to her here is
Speaker 10: that they believed that she deserved it to be the
Speaker 10: president of the United States. And I think that is
Speaker 10: what we should underline, that nobody deserves anything. You walk
Speaker 10: out there, you earn it, you work for it, you
Speaker 10: fight for it, and you get you convince people to
Speaker 10: vote for you. And I think that Clinton miserable failed
Speaker 10: to do that. So this Harris and Donald Trump was
Speaker 10: able to convince the larger part of the American population
Speaker 10: to vote for him, and they just to the American.
Speaker 4: People continue to over him.
Speaker 10: I mean, still the basis about ninety percent supportive of
Speaker 10: what Trump stands for and what he's doing to put
Speaker 10: America first. But when you look at the Socialist Democrats
Speaker 10: of America of America, for example, you look at the
Speaker 10: leadership that that movement had, and you look at the
Speaker 10: names over there, whether it's a Racid at the Leap
Speaker 10: or whether it's Omar or Ernie Sanders of Zorah Mondani. Now,
Speaker 10: I mean, you look at these people and it makes
Speaker 10: you wonder that most of them, or all of them,
Speaker 10: the exception of Bernie Sanders, they were.
Speaker 4: Not even born in the United States.
Speaker 10: They've come from countries that they were supposed to escape
Speaker 10: or at least we believe they were escaping, these liberal,
Speaker 10: socialistic policies, and yet they come to the United States
Speaker 10: and the moment they become an American citizens, they promote the
Speaker 10: exact same policies that they left behind in their countries
Speaker 10: which drove them out of their countries. And this is
Speaker 10: something that the Democrat Party has allowed this left wing
Speaker 10: part of the party to take control of the party.
Speaker 10: And now the more common sensical people, including the Senator
Speaker 10: from New York, they are afraid of these people, including
Speaker 10: Ocoegia Quarts, that they are going to primary them and
Speaker 10: remove them from power because they have guarnished so much support,
Speaker 10: whether it's the use, whether it's the minorities in these cities,
Speaker 10: where is the ones that they consider to be disenfranchised.
Speaker 10: I mean, they have garnished so much support in these
Speaker 10: cities that the common sensical Democrats are scared of them,
Speaker 10: and they're going to have to stand up to these,
Speaker 10: you know, so forth leaders of the socialist Americans and
Speaker 10: then just dismantle their policies. They have to have to
Speaker 10: bagbone the character and the fortitude to stand up with
Speaker 10: these people and tell them this is not American at all,
Speaker 10: and we're not going to tolerate this, and I hope
Speaker 10: they do that in this election.
Speaker 2: It's about about five or six years ago, but uh,
Speaker 2: doctor Peter Lmage wrote a terrific book. It's called My
Speaker 2: Father's Prayers, and it details coming to America, escaping socialism,
Speaker 2: and his hope for America. If you can find it,
Speaker 2: it's a tough fine, but if it's out there, it
Speaker 2: is a great read. And doctor Lemage, it's always great
Speaker 2: having you on. You stay well. We need to hear
Speaker 2: your voice and thank you for your time here.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. God bless you guys. I have
Speaker 4: a great weekend.
Speaker 2: Thank you too, you too. I mean the polling would
Speaker 2: indicat I mean, the Rutgers poll is an I think
Speaker 2: is an outlier. I can't believe at fifty five percent
Speaker 2: of those who say they are left or left of
Speaker 2: center would say that it is somewhat justified to murder
Speaker 2: President Trump. But it is increasingly clear that violence is
Speaker 2: becoming more and more not just violence, but violence involving
Speaker 2: firearms and injury to people is becoming more and more
Speaker 2: prevalent in our society. Three sets of polls, it's a
Speaker 2: minority of Americans. That minority, though, is significant. And unfortunately,
Speaker 2: if you add up the polls that you GOV polls,
Speaker 2: both of those plus the one that was done by Rutgers,
Speaker 2: ten to forty percent of people think violence can be
Speaker 2: justified to I obtain political goaling. And if that's not
Speaker 2: a concern, I don't know what to tell you. But
Speaker 2: if one man drives you to that amount of rage,
Speaker 2: you have to probably stop and look in the mirror
Speaker 2: and say, wait a minute, that's it. That's that that
Speaker 2: that's controlling my life. One would think it is one
Speaker 2: twenty two. On this Saturday afternoon, Xavier exhibition basketball coming
Speaker 2: up at two o'clock the Musketeers against Murray State. Little
Speaker 2: funny games at the Sintas Center that you will hear
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred wl W one thirty seven News
Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred WLW. Welcome back, I am ken Brew.
Speaker 2: Top of the hour, straight up two o'clock, we go
Speaker 2: to the Cintas Center, Joe Sunderman Byron Larkin and all
Speaker 2: the play by play of an exhibition game between Richard
Speaker 2: Patino's Xavier Musketeers, first ever appearance publicly with that team,
Speaker 2: and they go against Murray State in a little free game,
Speaker 2: little exhibition game, but a chance for you to not
Speaker 2: only see what the team looks like, but if you
Speaker 2: can't go, you can hear what it sounds like, because
Speaker 2: we'll have the play by play from the Cintas Center,
Speaker 2: and of course later on tonight we have you see
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State direct from Stillwater, Oklahoma's the Bearcats try to
Speaker 2: go six and one on this season at the half
Speaker 2: in Oxford, Miami twenty one Eastern Michigan fourteen. That one
Speaker 2: was first up for local teams out of the shoot
Speaker 2: today on this Saturday, right smack dab in the middle
Speaker 2: of October and in the middle of college football season.
Speaker 2: So all of that and a little of this formed
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy. This was one of the top studio
Speaker 2: bands in the world, and then they figured out, you
Speaker 2: know what, we can make some songs ourselves. You probably
Speaker 2: remember the Atlanta rhythm section, Rodney Justo lead singer, Barry
Speaker 2: Bailey on guitar, Paul Goddard on Vastean Daughtry on keyboards,
Speaker 2: Robert Nixon drums, and J. R. Cobb on guitar. They
Speaker 2: call it soft rock. They called it in some cases
Speaker 2: country rock. But it was rock, and those boys could rock.
Speaker 2: But along the way, some members died and some members
Speaker 2: just flat out left. Like my next guest, Rodney Justo,
Speaker 2: was the lead singer of Atlanta Rhythm Section, and then
Speaker 2: he decided, you know what, I gotta go make some
Speaker 2: money because I got a family I got to support.
Speaker 2: And he left the band and left it for a
Speaker 2: long time, right at the height of its popularity. But
Speaker 2: they begged him to come back, and now he's back,
Speaker 2: and now they're back. The Atlanta Rhythm Section plays at
Speaker 2: the Ludlow Garage this coming Friday night, right here, right
Speaker 2: now from his home in Florida. Let's welcome on in
Speaker 2: lead singer, Rodney Justo. How are you on this glorious Saturday.
Speaker 4: I'm doing good, Ken, You know, I live in Tampa.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit warm, but I'll be sitting out
Speaker 4: of my underwear by the pool smoking a Cuban cigar
Speaker 4: very soon.
Speaker 2: You know, Rodney, I don't think a lot of people
Speaker 2: want that vision of you sitting in your underwear anywhere.
Speaker 4: You know. It's funny you say that because I'm thinking
Speaker 4: I have through a zoom interview, Like in the next couple,
Speaker 4: I gotta wash my hair. And I remember I used
Speaker 4: to look at the newscasters on TV, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: and I wonder if they're wearing pants.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? Not always.
Speaker 11: I hear you.
Speaker 4: That was OK, there's gotta be a rebel out there someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's there's a few of us that are
Speaker 2: out there. So you're rolling through town again, and this
Speaker 2: is this is so good. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about this. How often? How often are you on the road?
Speaker 2: How many gigs a year do you play?
Speaker 4: The goal was to do fifty. Now fifty, as Ken
Speaker 4: is at least one hundred. You got to get there
Speaker 4: and back. Now this year we'll probably do sixty. I
Speaker 4: wasn't too crazy about doing all these dates, but whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't nothing at home. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, level of we played, level of the verage.
Speaker 4: It might have been.
Speaker 11: I think it was a second or third date we
Speaker 11: played after COVID and the reception was so good that
Speaker 11: when the gig was over, we told guys, these are
Speaker 11: the days that make you glad you're a musician.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4: And I must say you, Ken, it's really about the
Speaker 4: people you meet. I mean, a song is a song.
Speaker 4: On the song we said, interesting thing, do you get
Speaker 4: tired of singing the same song lo time? No, you don't,
Speaker 4: because they're different. The audience is different. You know, it's
Speaker 4: a difficult to explain, but the same but different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to tell I want to take you
Speaker 2: back just for a second. I'm going to dig up
Speaker 2: some bones here. Rodney, Rodney and the Mystics, Rodney and
Speaker 2: the Mystics. Yeah, you guys, your band, which I think
Speaker 2: was a you had a band called the Candy Man
Speaker 2: a men. And then there's some guys that played in
Speaker 2: classics for and they were anyway, Rodney and the Mystics.
Speaker 2: If an act came to to South central Florida, it
Speaker 2: did not necessarily have its own musicians. It might be
Speaker 2: a singer, or it might be somebody that used studio
Speaker 2: musicians to record his or her song, where yeah, the
Speaker 2: band might not even exist. It just might have been
Speaker 2: made up by the studio. But you guys would would
Speaker 2: would do the music in these concerts where everybody be
Speaker 2: going crazy over the solo artists, and really what they're
Speaker 2: going crazy over is the music that you guys were making.
Speaker 2: You were I don't want to say a house band,
Speaker 2: but you were in much demand in that area of
Speaker 2: the country. When did you get that traction to go
Speaker 2: from what you were doing to becoming the band the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Rhythm Section. Somebody had to look at you and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, Uh, these guys are pretty aren't good
Speaker 2: and they probably could do their own stuff. So who
Speaker 2: was Who was it that got you from what you
Speaker 2: were doing with all of those those great singers that
Speaker 2: needed musicians to play live gigs. Who was it they
Speaker 2: caught you to get to Atlanta?
Speaker 4: It was Orbison because in his backup band it was
Speaker 4: Bobby Goldsborough. Oh and when Bobby Goldsborough got a hit,
Speaker 4: he left the band and they asked me to take
Speaker 4: his plate because they wanted to work when Roy didn't work,
Speaker 4: so you know, they had to make money, so they
Speaker 4: asked him, they asked me, and that's how that whole
Speaker 4: thing started. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, Orbison? And where are
Speaker 4: I get.
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 6: Was?
Speaker 2: You did that first album and then you left, right
Speaker 2: you went to New York and if I'm not mistaken
Speaker 2: you you started just doing studio work. You were doing
Speaker 2: singing and commercials and things like that, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you know, it reched the point
Speaker 4: with the rhythm section that they were more intent on
Speaker 4: that point of making other people's records and doing jingles
Speaker 4: and you know and what have you. And I didn't
Speaker 4: want to do that. I mean I already invested two
Speaker 4: years in the band, and it was financial. I wasn't
Speaker 4: making any money. I had a daughter. It was sick.
Speaker 4: You know, you have to pay those doctors because like
Speaker 4: every stupid musician, I didn't have insurance. You do what
Speaker 4: you got to do to your your finily first, and
Speaker 4: you I moved to New York City. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: had a good life. I love New York City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did well. You were on a lot of
Speaker 2: different commercials up there, right, I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I see, you know, and the second background
Speaker 4: all records I enjoyed. I enjoyed that to some extent,
Speaker 4: but I always liked working life.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks you disappeared, but you didn't. You just got
Speaker 2: you got on with your life. You did a little
Speaker 2: jingle work. And then somebody told me that you got
Speaker 2: into the wine business, the wine distribution business. Is that right?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I never had a job before Ken and I decided,
Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to raise my family. I wanted
Speaker 4: to be with my children. I had an overwhelming walk
Speaker 4: for my wife. That's what I wanted to do. I
Speaker 4: wanted to come home. Yeah, I got a job for
Speaker 4: nobody wanted to hire me. Why would they hire me?
Speaker 4: I thought? I thought people would be happy to see
Speaker 4: I want to shown up, be like who were you?
Speaker 4: You know? But I could could now stand help to sleep? Yeah,
Speaker 4: well you get into so int you I can't get.
Speaker 4: I'd take a job for one hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 4: a week dusting bottles in the grocery stores, oh my god,
Speaker 4: you know, and and worried by the way can of
Speaker 4: being a failure for one hundred and fifty dollars a week.
Speaker 4: I was scared of getting nervous. I mean, you can't
Speaker 4: hardly mess up a job for one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: dollars a week. It's like fail in the first grade,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Well, well you're away.
Speaker 2: The Atlanta rhythm section is cranking out all those hits right,
Speaker 2: So into you, imaginary lover, I mean, so you're you.
Speaker 2: You made the decision. You you wanted to go. You
Speaker 2: want to go away and then raise your family and
Speaker 2: get a job. But was there any resentment? Did you
Speaker 2: ever second guess yoursel for doing that?
Speaker 4: That is such a good question, Ken, I understand why
Speaker 4: people would ask it, and I don't know if they
Speaker 4: believe me when I say I was ecstatic to them.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like I hated the guys on that. It
Speaker 4: wasn't one of those kinds of deals. First of all,
Speaker 4: if they were anywhere near Tampa, I was there with them, Okay,
Speaker 4: But no, I was never ever enough for one second, Yeah,
Speaker 4: envious or I was happy for the guys with my friends,
Speaker 4: will I would not be happy? Yeah, yeah, I understand
Speaker 4: that it's hard to believe.
Speaker 2: Well, oh no, it's not hard for me to believe
Speaker 2: because certain things about certain professions don't fit a person perfectly.
Speaker 2: And so they got to get out of it. And
Speaker 2: you know what you mentioned, Ronnie. Ronnie Hammond was was
Speaker 2: who you were talking about who was still in the group.
Speaker 2: But I found I find this absolutely amazing. You're you're
Speaker 2: on with your life, You're in the wine distribution business,
Speaker 2: I mean, and they're begging you to come Atlanta Rhythm Section.
Speaker 2: Maybe forty years after you left, they're begging you to
Speaker 2: come back and you're saying no, no, no no. But
Speaker 2: eventually you said, yeah, okay, you know I'll come back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but what made you come back? Because it sounds like
Speaker 2: you had this whole other thing going on in your
Speaker 2: in your life.
Speaker 4: I retired, I said, Okay, I decided I'm going to retire.
Speaker 4: Sixty two. Well, I set out for a couple of years,
Speaker 4: starting to get my game back in shape when the
Speaker 4: band had dwindled down to just a keyboard player, being
Speaker 4: the only last original guy left. Now that many people
Speaker 4: want to show up to see him on nothing personal. Sure,
Speaker 4: but that's the case. So I got a call from him.
Speaker 4: The guy who was singing with the band at the
Speaker 4: time had a heart attack, and they called and asked
Speaker 4: me to fill in. Are you crazy? I've studied twenty
Speaker 4: five years now, please, man, you got to help us.
Speaker 4: We'll play in so Mohes. Oh okay, so I'll figure, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll do it. I'm what the hell did I agree
Speaker 4: to do? I don't remember these songs. I gotta remember
Speaker 4: all these songs, you know, in like three or four
Speaker 4: days plus a song that he used to do called
Speaker 4: Molly Malone. Oh I never sung Molly Molone. I had.
Speaker 4: I had to learn Molly Malone good. So now the
Speaker 4: funny part was two things. First of all, I could
Speaker 4: not say Molly. I kept singing Moses Malone, the basketball
Speaker 4: players Malone and then the other throw because genius was well,
Speaker 4: how am I to remember the song? I'll just print
Speaker 4: off the worddrobe put him down here on the floor,
Speaker 4: and I looked down and I'll say him, well, I
Speaker 4: forgot it. I couldn't see him, and they have my
Speaker 4: glasses never.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we can't wait to see you up here
Speaker 2: on Friday night at the Ludlow Garage. It's it's a
Speaker 2: good turf for you and it'll be a great show,
Speaker 2: I know. And uh, between now and then, you stay
Speaker 2: healthy because we need to hear your voice, and we
Speaker 2: need to hear you.
Speaker 4: And I used to watch you on television and you
Speaker 4: feel like I always felt like, how can I put it?
Speaker 4: You always looking to say something funny and everybody else
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna do you know? Yeah, and it's something that
Speaker 4: something yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh man, those were those were the days, my friend
Speaker 2: stay well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, unfortunately we had them. I don't worry about
Speaker 4: losing them. I'm thinking about what I have You know, Amen,
Speaker 4: stay well, Rodney, all right, Ken, be good to yourself.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, good questions, good imagination.
Speaker 2: One Little Garage is coming Friday Night. Ars you remember
Speaker 2: the album they had out, Champagne Jam. They had some
Speaker 2: they had some songs off that album sold over a
Speaker 2: million certified platinum. That's what this song was on. Imaginary
Speaker 2: Lover was on Champagne Jam. I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna let it bother me Tonight was on that And
Speaker 2: I think the last one that they really produced and
Speaker 2: released was in seventy nine Underdog It Had to Do
Speaker 2: It or Die and Spooky. Some of the guys in
Speaker 2: the band originally were members of the Classics four and
Speaker 2: so there was a little inbreeding there. They redid Spooky anyway.
Speaker 2: As you know, I am passionate about a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about sports, I'm passionate about music, and I
Speaker 2: am passionate about what I drive. And I only drive
Speaker 2: BMW's from the BMW store. Did you know there are
Speaker 2: over three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the United States,
Speaker 2: but there's only one Uno, only one BMW store. It
Speaker 2: is ten minutes north of downtown Cincinnati, right off I
Speaker 2: seventy one. It's the Stuart Road exit. I've often said this,
Speaker 2: I will say it one more time. If you're riding
Speaker 2: through life, you might as well ride through life and luxury,
Speaker 2: which you'll always find at the BMW store. It's one
Speaker 2: fifty two Saturday afternoons. You and me seven hundred WLW