WEBVTT - 10-18-25 Saturday Afternoon Extravaganza with Ken Broo 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:07.120 Now your host Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:08.160 wl WU. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.160 Well, good Saturday to you. It is a gorgeous saturday 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.080 here in the Tri State. Stand by because apparently tomorrow 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.919 it all goes south. But yes, a gorgeous day here 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.320 in the Tri State. You may not be aware of this, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.800 so I'm just alerting you as a matter of public service. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.080 But today is no King's Day, so deemed by the 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.640 Democrats and their cohorts, no King's Day. And of course 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.920 they're massive protests all over the country, largely at Donald 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.320 Trump and Ice. And that's the reason why, of course 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.919 I find it fascinating. You might too, that we live 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:47.120 in a republic. If we did have monarchy ruling our country, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.360 there would not be, under any set of circumstances a 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:54.480 protest allowed against the king. Has anybody thought that one? Through? 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.480 My guess is a Keem Jefferies is not. But that's 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.440 just a wild guess on my part. But it's no 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.240 King's Day, and we continue to be separated as a country, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.000 and we continue to fight a government shutdown. Really, I 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.759 haven't seen the effects of it yet on a personal basis, 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.360 Perhaps that's coming. But somebody that knows about these kinds 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.000 of things because he lived it and he tried to 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.680 prevent it and now is viewing it from the outside 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.440 of the US House of Representatives. It's a good guest 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:27.040 of our program. He is former Congressman Jim Baci. And Jim, 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.479 how are you on this glorious No King's Day? 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.600 Well, Ken, I'm doing great. It's a beautiful day in Ohio. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.360 So that we should be happy about more than a 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:38.280 No King's Day? 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.760 It amazes me. And I want to ask you and 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.200 I have visited about the shutdown and how it's easily 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.120 avoidable and who ultimately gets blamed for it. But it 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.440 would seem to me that the reason why we don't 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.320 have the government up and running right now is because 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.560 it was focused, or there was focus by the Democrats 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.760 on this day. They wanted a day where they could 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.080 just massively protest against the president and what he's doing 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.720 with ice. That seems to be what this is all about, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.120 and it seems to me why we don't have a 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.839 government up and running at this point. Am I too 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.920 simplistic here with this this analysis? 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:20.040 Jim, Well, look, my opinion might be a little bit different. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.880 I think we don't have a government up and running 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:28.160 because we don't have Republicans and Democrats in Washington trying 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.160 to get it open. And who's the blame will be 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.720 really decided by the people. It's who has the best message. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:38.239 You know. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.520 This is what's so frustrated Ken. It's one of the 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.560 reasons why I left Washington is because I can tell 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.680 you when Bayner was Speaker and we were shut down, 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.400 we didn't leave Washington. There were no fundraisers, there was 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.920 nothing going on. We stayed there until we could get 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:59.120 an agreement done. And that's what frustrates me more than 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.400 anything that both sides, you know, the House and the 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.120 Senate seemed to be okay going home. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.560 Yeah. Well, and Johnson just yesterday Mike Johnson, Speaker of 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:12.480 the House, told all of his oh well, everybody in Congress, 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.000 just stay home for another week and work in your districts. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.360 But here's what I don't understand, so help me. We 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.800 have we had a clean resolution by and large that 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.400 was a continuing resolution, a clean continuing resolution that was 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:30.440 passed in I want to say, late spring, and the 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.040 Democrats have historically been okay with that. They just push 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.960 it through, push it through, and we just kicked the 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.800 ball down the road with our budget. That's a problem 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.120 in and of itself. I understand that, Jim, But we've 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.600 had that in the past. Well they don't. They didn't 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.400 do it this time because they felt shut out the 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.800 Democrats from the discussion about what happens to some of 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.800 the provisions of Obamacare, which will expire at the end 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.320 of this current year. So instead of agreeing to a 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.880 continuing people getting paid, they said, no, we're not going 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.120 to vote I'm talking about the Democrats in the Senate. No, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.880 we're not going to vote for this. And then we 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.520 have this this cr that carries us through the end 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.920 of the year because we feel left out to put 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.560 the heat I suppose on Mike Johnson and John Thune 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.320 and bring them to a deadline to get this done. Well, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.159 it didn't get done. And so my question is, yeah, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.480 I understand what Johnson is doing. That's his way of saying, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.760 we're not going to have a discussion in the House. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.719 We've already had that discussion. It's already passed. I don't 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.359 really understand what Thune is doing in the Senate because 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.880 they keep bringing up these votes and they keep getting 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.120 shot down, and it seems to be more for optics 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.520 than anything else. On John Thune's part, I just don't 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.440 understand the process. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.479 Well, there's a little more to it than that too. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.640 You know, if you think about on the House, what 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.520 the Speaker Johnson has said was, look, we already passed 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.799 our bill, and as soon you guys pass it, we'll 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.760 come back and we'll start doing the appropriation bills, and 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.360 we'll start you know, getting the budget pass and all 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.480 the things that we need to done, and we'll start 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:18.280 negotiating these healthcare issues. The problem is Ken is that 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.919 the optics are not good for him either, because he 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.480 needs to get back and start doing all those other things. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.560 I mean, he's holding out, but you still have appropriation 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.960 bills that need pass, You still have a budget needs pass. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.680 All of these things need pass, and they need to negotiate. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.479 So I keep looking at this really from the outside saying, wow, 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.760 if he was smart, he have everybody in there saying, look, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.359 we passed the cr now let's just get let's just get. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:45.960 Our our ducts in order. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.839 With all this other stuff too. You see, it's not 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.560 going to be the Republicans or Democrats who make a 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.279 decision on who gets elected next November, it's going to 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.480 be the Independence and the Independents are looking at this 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.840 a lot different than you are. I might be looking 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.760 at it, they're looking at it as you know. I 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.919 don't like what the Republicans are doing. I like what 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.479 the Democrats are down and in the end, they're going 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.880 to make the decision, and I think the better message 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.280 wins and that's going to be the key. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.120 Okay, so you just kind of outlined what you think 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.240 should be done. I'm guessing here, but correct me if 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.080 I'm wrong. If you were Mike Johnson, you would have 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.360 never sent the house out. They never dismissed the house. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.039 You wouldn't have sent them home. You would have kept 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.360 them in Washington until this thing got done. Am I right? 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:33.520 We look right? 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.560 I mean I've been in business for thirty years. I've 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.320 negotiated a lot of deals. The minute you leave the 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.599 tables a minute that the negotiating and the dealing is over. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:43.320 I just believe. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.440 And that's why I had a lot of respect when 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:51.200 John Bayner said we're not leaving. In fact, don't go home. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.359 Don't be seen in your districts, because people are going 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.240 to say, how come you're not back in Washington getting 0:06:56.240 --> 0:07:00.520 this done. So I disagree with Speaker John since doing 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.160 but I mean, look, he's the Speaker, he can do 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.760 what he wants. We'll see what happens next November, because 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.360 people are going to remember this. Yes, they're going to say, well, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.239 the Speaker wasn't in and you know, the House wasn't 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.280 doing their job, and then it just comes down to 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.160 I just want to throw everybody out. See, that's the fear, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.960 you know. Can I always hear people say, well, nobody's 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.640 going to vote for a Democrat. Well, time out. What's 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.400 going to happen is people are going to say, and 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.760 this has happened. It's how the Republicans came rolling in 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.200 back in twenty ten. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.600 Everybody was tired. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.440 Of Obama and the Democrats, and they were voting for 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.560 Republicans just because they didn't want Democrats there anymore. We 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.320 have to be really careful as Republicans. That's the fear 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:43.600 I have. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.800 Okay, so somebody's got a blink here, right, I mean, 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.960 somebody's got a blink. And I don't think either side 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.640 wants to lose face on this thing. Schumer has his 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.880 own set of problems in New York, with perhaps a 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:02.480 political play there on his seat. And the Republicans have 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.520 the House and they have the Senate. They certainly don't 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.600 want to lose the House because the first thing the 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.920 Democrats will do if they gain control of the House 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.120 is impeach Trump yet again. I mean, there's all kinds 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.520 of you know, sub stories going on with all of this. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.840 So who blinks? How do you get this from where 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.280 it is to where it's got to be? What would 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:22.680 you do? 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:24.440 Well? 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.600 Right now, I think the Democrats can't. They can't blink. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.880 They're in this, They're locked in. They have to hang 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.120 out long enough until these subsidies become a problem. These 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.800 subsidies affect twenty five million people. Now, the argument that 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.640 well a lot of these subsidies are illegal immigrants just 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.480 isn't true. There are a lot of people out of 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.040 those twenty five million who need the subsidies to have 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.040 their health insurance. And I think that's going to be 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.880 their argument. They're going to continue to push and push 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.400 and say, look, we want this healthcare deal. Now we 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.679 don't think you're going to negotiate fairly. You wouldn't negotiate 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.760 with us on this cr and now you think we 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.680 should just sign it and you're going to negotiate. So 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:13.320 that's going to be their argument. I think in the end. Whoever, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.520 So if they're asking me what I think happens, I 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.560 do think at some point in time Republicans go back 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:27.440 in and they support the subsidies, and whether they support 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.120 it and sign the clean CR with something in writing, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.000 whether they do it all at once. But like I'm 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.160 hearing from some of my colleagues that. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:36.760 Are still there, they hit. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.680 In fact, I got a call from one of them 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.160 about a week or so ago, says, Jim, do you 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.840 believe how much we fought to make sure Obamacare never survived? 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.239 And you're now. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:53.160 You're going to see Republicans supporting Obamacare subsidies before the 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.679 end of this year's up, and that's going to be 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.080 a real change. Marjorie Taylor Green has already come out 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.440 and said she supports them. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.480 Yeah, And I think the I think the heat'll get 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.080 turned up in the districts the folly. Maybe what Johnson 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.319 has done is he sent everybody home, But when they 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.760 get home, they see the people they represent on the street, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.760 and there's going to be some arm twisting there. But truthfully, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.920 Jim and I think for the average person walking around 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.560 on the street, the guy that works, the guy that 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:22.400 pays taxes. I haven't seen the effects of the shutdown yet. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.720 People say, well, the government's shut down and there's so 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.520 many percent I haven't felt it. Am I an anomaly? 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.880 Have you felt it? I'm just wondering who's felt this. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.439 Well, yeah, unless you're dealing with the government. So I'm 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.000 dealing with the i r S on a couple issues personally, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.680 and for some good luck for some clients, well yeah, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.880 they're all out of they're all out of town right now. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.120 So nothing's getting done when it comes to the I 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.559 r S, which is a problem. But the real issue 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.120 is these people aren't getting paid. And you've got to 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.040 feel sorry for our military. You got to feel sorry 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.360 for the air traffic controllers be enforced to go in 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:02.760 and not be paid. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.600 That is just not right. That is not right. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.720 And remember there are people already in the House that 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.920 have said, we have a bill. There were Republicans and 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.640 Democrats in the House that have said we need to 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.160 come back, we should at least pass a bill making 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.400 sure our military gets paid and some of these essential 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.800 services get paid. So that's another issue going on. That 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.480 these independents are going to say, well, wait a minute, 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.600 I think the Democrats were pretty reasonable. They want to 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.680 go back in and at least get these people paid. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.360 And it's going to be the messaging who wins the messaging, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.400 because ultimately a shutdown, the only people that really lose 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.640 with the American people. And as you said, you're not 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.480 feeling the effects, but I can tell you the cost 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:53.200 of a shutdown are dramatic. The economy, all the things. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:57.200 It's a ripple effect that will hurt our economy. It'll 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.880 cost our you know, GDP. It hurts, and you just 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.760 don't fill it immediately, but it will hurt over the 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.400 next few months and weeks. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.400 Former US Congressman from the Great State of Ohio, Jim 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.160 and Acy our guest here in seven hundred at WLWO. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.319 Donald Trump's had a great month month and a half internationally. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.400 He's going to try his hand again with Ukraine and Russia. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.400 But to fold that back into what we've been just 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.680 talking about, I think he's getting high marks there. Again, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.080 I'm looking at this as just an average citizen. You've 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.640 been there where the sausage is made. I don't sense 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.000 that any of this really comes to a head until 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.720 Trump is affected. If Trump feels like he's being affected 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.440 and that it's folding back on him, then I think 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.400 he gets involved and you start seeing pressure from him 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.520 on Thune and on Johnson. It's all fun in games 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.880 right now. But I think the minute it starts folding 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.040 on him and his numbers start to create, then I 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.280 think this thing starts to come to a head. You know, again, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.480 MI a little too simplistic with my analysis here. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.640 No, I think you're exactly right. If this was affecting 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.720 President Trump, he would have had it settled already. You know, 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.360 I've heard this too. Donald Trump traveled to Egypt to 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.160 settle dispute between people who did not get along. Why 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.440 isn't he in Washington, d C. Bringing the House and 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.160 the Senate in. So that's another issue that independents are 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.480 of looking at. So I keep, you know, bringing up 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.040 this stuff. But you're right, it's not affecting him right now. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.320 He and he can blame the House and the Senate 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.280 at this stage. He could sit back to the White 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.320 House say it's not my problem, it's not my fault, 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.760 it's those guys over there. And I think, right now, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.160 that's his easy way out. But you know, as the 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.120 economy starts to have problems, as it becomes issues, I 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.640 think he will be the guy who brings everybody together. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.320 I would bet you that within the next thirty days 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.920 you're going to see President Trump is going to be 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.720 the person who brings the House and Senate together and says, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.200 let's get this done. And he's already said he would 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:02.720 support subsidies. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.040 Right and get it. Gives him a chance to be 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.640 the hero, and lord knows, that's probably number one in 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.120 his book. He loves. He loves the ability to settle 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.680 things and then sit back and see what people say 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.240 about it. But it's an interesting dynamic. I think it's criminal. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.480 We're not paying the troops. Criminal, we're not playing the 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.520 air traffic controllers. Same with ICE. I mean, I know 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.080 there are things that are out there and mechanisms out 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.040 there where they're trying to get money to those people, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.640 but you know, we depend on those people just to 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.320 function on a daily basis. And in the case of ICE, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.320 you can say what you want about whether or not 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.240 what they're doing is right or wrong. That's what America 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.800 voted for. And they're trying to clean up the act 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.600 of the last four years that has just been absolutely atrocious. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.440 So yeah, those people need to get paid, and you 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.600 need to get back to your weekend. Jim. We've tied 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.320 you up far too long. There's probably a fair way 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.640 out there screaming for a great tea shot or a 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.320 grandchild screaming for ice cream. So we'll let you go, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.040 only to talk again down the road. Thank you, Jim. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.120 We appreciate you all right. Well, by now there you go, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:15.960 Jim Ornacy. We love Jim because he is so he's 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.040 not a zealot. He's not somebody that is on TV 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.400 even he's off, is on TV screaming about what's we're 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.320 right there wrong and all that. I mean, it's just 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.440 good common sense and that's why I like having him 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.440 on the show. It is twelve twenty two on this Saturday, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.480 believe it or not. At two o'clock today, we have 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:42.320 a Xavier exhibition basketball game. Yes, we're going to have 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.200 Joe and Byron today at noon at two o'clock. Now, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.360 I'm telling you what if that doesn't get you ready 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.600 for the fall, I don't know what will. But they'll 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.760 have the exhibition game live from the Sintas Center today. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.440 I believe it's Murray State that we'll be taking on Xavier, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.640 and Richard Fatino makes his debut as Xavier coach today. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.000 So stay two for that fun and Ferrality for vrolity, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.320 and of course down the road, we got uc football 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.280 right here on the home of everything that moves, sweats 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:21.000 and wears a uniform. Seven hundred WLW twelve twenty nine 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.640 News Radio seven hundred WLW. I am ken Brew coming 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.760 up on the show today. We are a divided society 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.920 and we are divided not just along party lines, but 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.280 we are divided in terms of gender, we are divided 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.280 in terms of demographic, We are in divided nation in 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.560 terms of generation. And how do you bring it together? 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:47.240 How do you make it work. Doctor Peter Lumage, who 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.600 I've had on the show before, is back and doctor 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.320 Lumage came to this country legally from Albania to escape 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.840 socialism and now he's watching it try to embed itself 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.520 into our country. And he seems to think that one 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.879 of the reasons why democracy is on the run is 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.760 because it's not really serving Americans at this point the 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.359 way it should. So we're going to talk to him 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.919 about how you bring everybody together, not the Kumbaya, but 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.760 just to make this damn thing work. And then one six. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.080 This is I think a very interesting story. There's a 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.720 band called the Atlanta Rhythm Section. They were big back 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.840 in the seventies. Their lead singer is Rodney Justo. He 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.000 jumped and left the band in the middle of its popularity, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.760 went off and tried to do his own thing, wound 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.560 up stacking wine bottles in a grocery store in Florida. 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.200 But now he's back with the Atlanta Rhythm Section and 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.040 they are coming to the Ludlow Garage later this month. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.360 We're going to spend some time with Rodney Rodney Justo, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.080 all of that and more as we cruise till two 0:17:53.320 --> 0:18:02.960 on seven hundred WLW OH but thirty seven News Radio 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.920 seven hundred at w WELW, I can brew good. Saturday 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:11.479 afternoon two o'clock, it'll be an exhibission game between Xavier 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:16.480 University and Murray State. Joe Sunderman and Byron Larkin back 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.600 tickling the airwaves with their dulcet tones as the Richard 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.119 Patino era begins. Of course, later on tonight we have 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:31.119 uc Oklahoma State. They go out to Stillwater Oklahoma. I 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.960 worked in Oklahoma many years ago, many years ago, and 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:39.159 used to cover games in Stillwater. As I recall, that 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.840 football stadium is laid out. Most football stadiums are laid 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.680 out in north south. This one is laid out east west. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.959 And they would get out in Oklahoma these storms, they 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.560 were called northeasters, where you might be, you know, walking 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.639 around in short sleeves and the temperature is seventy eight 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.680 eighty degrees and three hours later it's thirty eight degrees 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.639 and there's hail falling from the sky. But that was 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.680 like a wind tunnel. That stadium out there at Oklahoma State. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.360 They made great improvements over the years. T Boone Pickens, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.280 I'm sure you know that name, the oil guy, big time, 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.960 big city, big deal oil guy. T. Boone Pickens is 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.720 an alumnus of that school and has put a lot 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.280 of money into its athletic programs, and one of which 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.240 was an upgrade of the stadium. But man, I'll tell 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.280 you what. When I was out there, the head coach 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:38.439 was Jimmy Johnson. Yes, that's Jimmy Johnson. And you'd go 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.320 to games there and it would just the win would 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.119 as the song Oklahoma says the wind would come woving 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:48.160 down the plane. Eight o'clock the kickoff time. The night 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:53.760 weather looks good the UC the Oklahoma State game is 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.160 just one of many on the schedule today. We want 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.679 to talk about. Well, by the way, I said it 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.760 was twelve thirty, as you and I both know, it's 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:08.760 five o'clock somewhere. There's one for you. There's one for me. Well, 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.840 there's one for the ages. I did light up ajpup 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.440 top again. Alan Jackson, Baby, here's one for you. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.199 I've just got time for one more round. 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.840 Sit them up, my praying, then what happens. 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:29.560 And now be gone and you can live. Some of the. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:36.080 Fools sit down now. Unfortunately, Sterling is not into daddy. Nevertheless, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.560 we press on, Yeah, you see Oklahoma State tonight number 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.240 twenty four in the country. Cincinnati is five and one, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.320 three and oh in the Big twelve, Oklahoma State one 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.199 and five oh and three in the Big twelve, and 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.920 the University of Cincinnati is a twenty four point favorite. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:58.200 Why Oklahoma State and its last five games, has scored 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.560 a grand total of seventy two points. It's about fourteen 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:07.439 points per game. Nevertheless, Scott Saderfield here now Scott talking 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.040 about Oklahoma State and their offense and the fact they 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.159 have a wide receiver now playing quarterback. Yeah, you have 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:16.119 to be ready for everything. 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.359 I mean, this is a team that you know. 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.919 Obviously they haven't had the best of the year, but 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.280 they already is homecoming. They do have a lot of pride. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.320 All the alumni will be coming back. They want to 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.760 play on a great show for their fans. You know, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.080 they got proud about themselves as well. So they're gonna 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.280 We're gonna get their best shot. 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.280 Oklahoma State. I believe UC was out there a couple 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:39.320 of years ago. It did not go well and it 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:45.320 you know, with the portal with nil, every single football 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:49.639 team changes its personnel and its look and its ability 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.600 to win almost on a yearly basis. So here's Brendan 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.040 Soresby on the just the difference from one year to 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.760 the next, one time against Oklahoma State to Glahoma State. 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.960 Right now, just to culture, you know that we've established 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.320 everybody understands our goal is to you know, being Dallas 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:08.879 at the end of the year. Our goal isn't just 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.760 to make it to a bowl game. So you know, 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:13.359