1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: The following is a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: the ideas expressed. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what, 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: He's been doing the show here on w R for 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: years and years and years. Very popular show and a 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: he's the guy to ask. 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: The public doesn't get a damn. 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: And I went to his office and I said, I said, 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: look at my face. And he goes, yeah, look at 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: your face. We're going to do with your fan. What 15 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: can you do with his face? I go like that. 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: I swear to God, I go look at this. I'm 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: getting old. I said, I want to maybe he get 18 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: fix it up a little bit. 19 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 4: Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here, Ard, and I 20 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: want to get to plugged you. Having worked with you 21 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: in a book and numerous other activity, you want to talk. 22 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: To Arthur Perry, the best in plastic. 23 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 4: Surgery and workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivery content, 24 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 4: which is why it's been a blessing to have you 25 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: on my show so many times. 26 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 5: When I was a resident at the University of Chicago, we. 27 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: Had a smart as I really really gift his position. 28 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: I want to pay you the highest treet I can 29 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 4: give to a surgeon, which is when people come to you, 30 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 4: they don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion. 31 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 4: And that's why I trust you with my friends and relativeship. 32 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 4: I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael 33 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: Jordan of Plastic Surgeons nine O two and zero bows 34 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: to this guide. 35 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: And welcome. 36 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 5: I'm board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and you're 37 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 5: listening to What's your wrinkle right here on WOAR. I 38 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 5: hope you're all having a great January where we're into 39 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, if that's what we're going to call it, 40 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 5: and it's a cold winter here in New York. If 41 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 5: you're listening around the country, you know, well, it's it's 42 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: kind of a tough winter. But if you're in Arizona 43 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 5: or Florida, you've got your own issues with your skin. 44 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: But you know here we're suffering from winter skin. We're 45 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 5: going to talk a little bit about that during this 46 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 5: show today. I'm a board certified plastic surgeon, host of 47 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: this show for over twenty years. We're broadcasting a lot 48 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 5: from the Upper West Side of Manhattan overlooking the Hudson 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: River this evening and in cold New York. Today we 50 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 5: are going to talk about facelifts, but not just the 51 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 5: ordinary facelift. We're going to talk about a different type 52 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: of facelift called the direct excision of skin of the neck. 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 5: How's that of the neck facelift? It's kind of a 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: complex topic, but it's it's an appropriate facelift for many people, 55 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: and it's got a having a resurgence in popularity. So 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: we're going to talk about that. And we're also going 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: to talk about another disaster. You know, there's these disasters. 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: Noah likes these stories, but they're they're very upsetting when 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 5: you're in plastic surgery to see patients being hurt by 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: different people. And we're going to talk about a problem 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: in Beverly Hills with an esthetician and maybe a lawsuit. 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 5: And I'll keep you on the edge of your seat 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 5: about that one, but we're gonna talk about that during 64 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: the show. Also, this is a call and show. Eight 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 5: hundred three two one zero seven ten is the phone 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 5: number here at WR and we're giving away bottles of 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 5: My Nighttime serum this evening. Nighttime is a one stop 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: shopping for skincare. 69 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: It's really all you need. 70 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 5: You know, if you go into those stores you find 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 5: you know they want you to buy one, two, three, four, five. 72 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Ten different things. You don't have to do that. 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: There's really only a few active ingredients that are scientifically 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 5: proven to make a difference, and I put all of 75 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 5: them into My Nighttime. It's got vitamin C in a 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 5: ten percent concentration. It's got vitamin A in a form 77 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 5: that's not as irritating as some of the other forms. 78 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 5: It's got fruit acids, lactic acid and citric acid. They're 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 5: good for your skin. There exfoliants they help the other 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: ingredients penetrate better. And there's antioxidants and skin brighteners. That's 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 5: what we have in My Nighttime and that's what we're 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: giving away to callers this evening. So give us a call, 83 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: ask me the questions that have been keeping you up 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: at night. And I know you know you might be 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 5: going to a plastic surgeon this Wednesday and you're having 86 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: a consultation, you don't know what to ask the doctor. 87 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: You're not sure, Well, give me a call and we'll 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 5: talk about it first. Or let's say you've already had 89 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 5: surgery and you're not sure whether or not your recovery 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 5: is going just as planned. Give me a call. We'll 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 5: be happy to answer your questions. But remember, if I'm 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 5: not your doctor, these are just information tidbits I give 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: out there entertaining their educational But you don't want to 94 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: completely change your therapy based on some guy on the radio. Right, 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: you want to talk to your own doctor and get 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: the direct information from your doctor. But I can help 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 5: you along, all right. So there are many many facelifts 98 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: out there. In fact, probably about three dozen different types 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 5: of facelifts. There's the skin only facelift. That's one of 100 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 5: the ones that are done. That's done by a fair 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: number of plastic surgeons. They make incisions in front of 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: the ear, They go up into the scalp back behind 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 5: the ear, lift up the skin and pull it tight. 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: Most of us have gotten away from the one layer 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: facelift because they don't seem to last as long as 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 5: deeper facelifts. But they're out there and they're acceptable, and 107 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: those doctors can show very very good results. Joan Rivers 108 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 5: used to talk about her doctor that did a one 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: layer facelift on her, and she used to get these tweaks. 110 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: She called it every few years, because it's not a 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 5: long lasting facelift. But most of us do what's called 112 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: a two layered facelift. That second layer is called the 113 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: smass SMAs. I won't bore you with what that actually 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: stands for, but the facelift is what about seventy percent 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 5: of plastic surgeons do. It's the skin is lifted and 116 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: then we expose the jowl, We expose the underlying tissue 117 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: and lift that in its own layer. Now, the purpose 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: of a facelift, of course, is to get rid of 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: the jow, give you a sharp jawnline, and to remove 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: skin from the neck, and to also to help those 121 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 5: bands in the neck, you know those Catherine Hepburn bands, 122 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: those two bands that become more and more prominent the 123 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 5: older you get. Well, that's what a facelift is designed 124 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: to fix. There are lots of different ways to fix that. 125 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: There's that one layer that I've just mentioned, there's the 126 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: two layer, that's the smass facelift. And then there's what 127 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 5: some people call the deep plane facelifts. They've gotten a 128 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: lot of publicity lately and a lot of plastic surgeons 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 5: have started doing these and charging absolutely insane amounts of money. 130 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: The average facelift in the United States is anywhere between 131 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 5: twelve and nineteen thousand dollars. It's more like nineteen or 132 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: even more in New York City. But when we talk 133 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: about the deep plane facelifts, there are plastic surgeons that 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 5: are charging fifty thousand, one hundred thousand. There's even one 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 5: plastic surgeon that purportedly charges over two hundred thousand dollars 136 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: for facelift. 137 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy. 138 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: So when we come back from our break, we're going 139 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 5: to talk about these different types of facelifts, whether or 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: not they make a difference, and we're going to talk 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: about maybe another alternative. If you don't want incisions on 142 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: your cheeks, men, listen up, because this one is for you. 143 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: I Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, host to 144 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: What's Your Wrinkle right here on WOR eight hundred three 145 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 5: two one zero seven ten. 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: That's the phone number. Give us a call. We'll be 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: back after. 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: These words, everyone should have a skin cancer check yearly. 149 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: It's as important as a colonoscopy or a mammogram. 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I Board 169 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: certified Plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry. The foundation for looking 170 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 5: good is clean, healthy skin. So I've created a program 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: that is so simple that everyone can stay on it 172 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 5: long enough to see real results. It starts with an 173 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: incredible skin cleaner called clean Time. It's actually good for 174 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 5: your skin. Protect your skin with my Daytime SPF twenty 175 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 5: cream in the evening, feed your skin with my Powerhouse 176 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 5: Nighttime Serum. Nighttime has vitamin CNA, antioxidants and skin brighteners. 177 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: And if you like moisturizers, well, I've created Soft Time 178 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: with seramides and Vitamin D. Throw away the bags of 179 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: useless products and try doctor Perry's Skincare. Join the thousands 180 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 5: of people whose skin is healthier. That's doctor Perry's Skincare 181 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: on Amazon dot com. And don't forget to listen to 182 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 5: my radio show right here on wor Every Saturday evening 183 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 5: at six pm. You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with 184 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 5: Doctor Arthur Perry. 185 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: What's your Wrinkle? And we are back. 186 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: I'm Board certified Plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry hosts What's 187 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: Your Wrinkle right here on wo our host of straight 188 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: talk about cosmetic Surgery. That is the podcast version of 189 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 5: this show. We package it and deliver it right to 190 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: your inbox. You've got to go to either iHeart Podcasts 191 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 5: or Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, as 192 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 5: they say, and put my name in doctor Arthur Perry 193 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: or put in cosmetic surgery and you'll come up with 194 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: this podcast. We've got over five hundred podcasts out there 195 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: that you can listen to while you're driving or trying 196 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: to get to sleep or whatever it is. But please 197 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: subscribe to that podcast, all right. Facelifts they are one 198 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: of the most popular procedures in plastic surgery. I do 199 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: many facelifts. I love doing facelifts. I operate at Manhattan 200 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: Ironeer and also at Robert Woo Johnson in New Jersey 201 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: and at Surger centers around the New York and New 202 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 5: Jersey area. 203 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: And I'm doing facelifts. 204 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: Very very helpful to people who are beginning to show 205 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: the signs of aging and don't want to show the 206 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: signs of aging. So if you're fifty years old, you're 207 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: just starting to get that jowl and the turkey gobbler, 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 5: the extra skin of the neck. 209 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: Facelifts are a very. 210 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: Effective way to help you look better, help you look 211 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: as good as you feel, you know. The I love 212 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: doing botox and injecting fillers and doing lasers and procedures like. 213 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: That, but they only so far. 214 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 5: And remember that those procedures that I just mentioned are 215 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 5: okay for fine lines and wrinkles, but they really do 216 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: not help the jowls. They don't help the big SAgs 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 5: of the face that requires surgery. There are really not 218 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 5: good solutions to help let's say, the jowl without performing 219 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 5: a face slipt. 220 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: If you're younger, you. 221 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 5: Could have a liposuction suctioning some of that fat if 222 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 5: you're in your twenties or maybe thirties. But if you're 223 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: a or sixty and you've got fat in your jews 224 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 5: usually requires a facelift. And I'm not a big fan 225 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: of those barbed sutures, you know, those threadlifts. I don't 226 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 5: think they're effective. I don't think they last a long time. 227 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: They've got a high complication rate. So no, that's not 228 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: the best idea. So these different types of facelifts, they're very, 229 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: very good, but there are some drawbacks, and the drawback 230 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: for a traditional facelift, which by the way, is a 231 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: poorly named procedure. A facelift is a cheek lift along 232 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: with a necklift. In most cases, yes, we can do 233 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 5: an isolated necklift, but that doesn't remove the skin of 234 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 5: the neck, you know, So if you've got a lot 235 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: of extra skin, you really have to have a cheek 236 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 5: lift as well as a neck lift in order to 237 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 5: get rid of that skin, because we hit it and 238 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: remove it front of the ear. But there's a catch, 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 5: and the catch is that is very hard to cover 240 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 5: if you're a man. You know, men don't wear makeup. 241 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: Women wear makeup, women have hair that can cover those incisions. 242 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 5: Men have a hard time with that. And also when 243 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: a facelift is done on a man, it brings hair 244 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: bearing skin into the ear. We talked about that a 245 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, and that's a problem because you 246 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 5: know how difficult it is to deal with in your 247 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 5: ear as it is, right if you wind up cheekskin 248 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: and putting it into your ear, that's even more of 249 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: a problem. And that's one of the reasons why facelifts 250 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: in men not particularly popular. Last year, there were something 251 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 5: like seventy three thousand facelifts in women and only fifty 252 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: eight hundred in men. In the United States necklifts, there 253 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: are about twenty thousand isolated necklifts that women had and 254 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 5: only about twenty eight hundred and men. 255 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: So are way way down. 256 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: But there is a new procedure which is kind of 257 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: an old procedure that seems to have made a resurgence, 258 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 5: and it's a direct excision of skin of the neck. 259 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: Now there's different ways that plastic surgeons do this, but 260 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: the most common one places a scar right down the 261 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: middle of the neck. Now, now you might not like that. 262 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: Let's talk about this for a minute. The essence of 263 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 5: good facelift surgery is hiding those scars, placing the scar 264 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 5: in front of the ear in what I call a 265 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 5: short scar facelift. And there's lots of different names for 266 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: that s lift, and every plastic surgeon seems to name 267 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: that after him or herself. So that's one of the incisions. 268 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: The other incision is right underneath the chin, which is 269 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: very difficult to see. If I placed an incision right 270 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: down the middle of your. 271 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: Neck, you could see that. 272 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: But as it turns out, four out of five people 273 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: that have that procedure really have quite invisible scars. That 274 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 5: fifth person, you know, the twenty percent, well then they're 275 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: a little bit more visible. So that's the risk you 276 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: take for having a direct excision. But it's a very 277 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: powerful procedure. There's great advantages to doing the procedure because 278 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: it takes less time than a traditional facelift, it is 279 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 5: far less expensive than a traditional facelift, and it does 280 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: address the problem that turkey gobbler of the neck in 281 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 5: both men and women. I've done these procedures, so the 282 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 5: direct decision it really is gaining popularity. There were about 283 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 5: four or five scientific papers last year. That's a lot 284 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: for a particular procedure published in the plaid surgery literature, 285 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: and I'm. 286 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: Doing more of those. 287 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 5: So direct decision it's an alternative to a traditional facelift. 288 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 5: And we're going to take our second break. Hang on 289 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: the line. I know that we've got some calls about facelifts. 290 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: So hang on. 291 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: When we come back, we're going to talk a little 292 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: bit more about how about a facelift and a twenty 293 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: five year old What do you think of that? 294 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: And what about that problem that. 295 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: They're having in Beverly Hills with an esthetician. You're gonna 296 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: want to hear about this one. I'm board certified plastic surgeon, 297 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: doctor Arthur Perry, host of What's Your Wrinkle. We're gonna 298 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 5: take a short break. We'll be back after these words. 299 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 5: They say that sixty is the new fifty, But while 300 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: you may feel and act fifty, the mirror doesn't lie. 301 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: But that's where plastic surgery comes in. I'm board certified 302 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and I love helping patients 303 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: look younger and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls, 304 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might be time for 305 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: a little nip and a tuck. You look more rested 306 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: and yes, younger. With my short scar facelift and the 307 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 5: artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well, 308 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: that might be just what it takes to get you 309 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: looking as good as you feel. Sit down for an 310 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 5: hour consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together we'll 311 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: come up with a plan to help you look your best. 312 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 5: Give me a call at eight three three Perry, MD. 313 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: That's eight three three p e r R Y M D. 314 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 5: Check me out. On the web at Perry Plastic Surgery 315 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 5: dot com. And don't forget to listen to me, doctor 316 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: Arthur Perry, every Saturday evening at six pm right here 317 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: on wo R. You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with 318 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: doctor Arthur Perry. 319 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 6: What's Your Wrinkle? 320 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: And we are back on board. 321 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 5: Certified plastic surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry host What's Your Wrinkle 322 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 5: right here on wo R and those of you who 323 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 5: are interested in visiting me as a plastic surgeon. I 324 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 5: do this on weekends, but I operate during the week. 325 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 5: Last week I did an interesting black for plast It 326 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: was a really busy week coming back after that long 327 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: two week vacation. 328 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: But lots of lots of surgery up ahead. 329 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 5: And I see patients in my Park Avenue office, which 330 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 5: is the corner of eighty five the Park. I see 331 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 5: my patients also at well By Messer on sixtieth Street 332 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 5: between Lexington and Park Avenue, and of course in Somerset, 333 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 5: New Jersey. We're still seeing patients there and operating in 334 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 5: New Brunswick, New Jersey. All Right, we've got Dave on 335 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: the line. Dave, what can I do for you? 336 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: What's your wrinkle? Hey? Doc. 337 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: Firstly, you're awesome man, really cool listening to you. Well, 338 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 6: I don't want to get too much into a common actor. 339 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 6: And a couple of quick questions. There's one about the lip, 340 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 6: the upper lip and the nose to the nose. There's 341 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 6: a lot. There's that big space between that. Do you deal? 342 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: Do you do? 343 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 6: You know what that is? Like that big space. They 344 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 6: can close it up to make it a little less obvious. 345 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 5: You said your upper lip is lengthening. Is that what 346 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 5: I'm getting Dave. 347 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, the distance between the nose and the upper lip, 348 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 6: and that ages people a lot. 349 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and Dave, that happens as we get older. 350 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: It's one of the pleasures of growing older. We we 351 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: things begin to sag, they south and the lip tends 352 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: to lengthen a bit. Some of that is a real 353 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: lengthening and some is because the upper lip tends to 354 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: lose some fat and some volume. Also, it's a lot 355 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 5: less common in men than women. In women, I use 356 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 5: a lot of wrinkle filler to kind of plump things up, 357 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: and it makes the upper lip look shorter, the distance 358 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 5: between the nose and the lip. The other alternative is 359 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 5: a direct lip lift and again, it's really uncommon in 360 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: a man, but it can be done. We make an 361 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 5: incision right underneath the nose, it's under local ante sesion, 362 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 5: maybe with a little bit of sedation, and and I 363 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 5: remove an elipse a little crescent of skin under the nose. 364 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 5: It's got to be done very artistically, very carefully, because 365 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 5: otherwise the incisions will be a busy uh. But the 366 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: lip can be lifted that way, and I think that's 367 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: very preferable to the older technique which placed incisions right on. 368 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: Top of the lip. They were always visible. 369 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 5: A man would never ever have that because even women 370 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 5: always have to cover that with makeup. Men can't do that, 371 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: so that's not a good solution. But the possibility of 372 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: removing some skin between the nose, right where the nostrils 373 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 5: are and the upper part of the lip, it's a 374 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: small amount. We only remove a few millimeters of skin. 375 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: We get a little bit of a lift. So those 376 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: are the two possibilities. And it's kind of a tougher 377 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 5: question in a man because those scars tend to be 378 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 5: a little bit more more visible in men and women 379 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: in those spots. So does that answer your question, Dave. 380 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it does. One last question. I love what you're 381 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 6: saying about the bands of the neck too, because a 382 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 6: lot of people don't know about this, but the whole 383 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 6: next thing has become so prevalent now everywhere you turn around, 384 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 6: somebody's talking about the neck operation. It's like huge now. 385 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 6: So it's you know, I think that's important, very important 386 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 6: too for aging is those bands and the whole neck area. 387 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you can wear a turtle neck, you 388 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 5: can wear a scarf in the winter, but if you've 389 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: got that turkey gobbler, you know, I'm doing a man 390 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: next week. We're suctioning fat from his neck. We're fixing 391 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 5: those muscles of the neck, putting a chin in plant, 392 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: which is very important in a man, even more so 393 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 5: than a woman to have a nice, strong chin, and 394 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 5: it really balances out the neck. So certainly we've got 395 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: operations that can help you and help help men and 396 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: women to rejuvenate your neck. So thanks so much for 397 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 5: the phone call, Dave. I do appreciate it. 398 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's. 399 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: Interesting when we talk about facelifts. I talked about the 400 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: numbers a few minutes ago. There were seventy nine thousand 401 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 5: total facelifts and twenty two thousand necklifts. Do you know 402 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 5: last year, twenty seven people under the age of nineteen 403 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: had facelifts. 404 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: You figure that out? 405 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 5: That's nuts, right, I Mean, the only justification for doing 406 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 5: a facelift in some under nineteen is someone that had 407 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 5: massive weight loss. Let's say they lost one hundred or 408 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 5: two hundred pounds and just had all this extra skin, 409 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: and then I hope, I really do hope that those 410 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 5: twenty seven people were in that category. A few months 411 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: ago in my well By Messer office, I saw someone 412 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 5: who was I think she was in her twenties, like 413 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: twenty nine years old, and had a facelift by someone else, 414 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 5: had a deep plane facelift already, and was unhappy because 415 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: she still had jowls. And I said, wow, boy, at 416 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: this point, the only thing you can have is a 417 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 5: second facelift. But I wouldn't have done that in the 418 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 5: first place. The first place, if you're twenty or twenty 419 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: seven years old and you've got some fat along your jawline, 420 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: it's liposuction. That's a far far better way to handle 421 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 5: that then to do a facelift. Probably the youngest I 422 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: was trying to think the youngest person I've done a 423 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 5: facelift on I guess maybe about forty or so, and 424 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 5: it's really very uncommon. Facelifts are operations that start for 425 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 5: the most part in the late forties, very very popular 426 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: in the fifties and sixties, and they start to tail 427 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 5: out in the seventies. Although I did an eighty three 428 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: year old a few months ago. So, and it's not 429 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: so much your age as you get older, but how 430 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 5: healthy you are. So, if you've got diabetes, heart disease, 431 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 5: things like that, you're probably not going to have cosmetic surgery. 432 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: It's not the best idea. But if you're. 433 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 5: Healthy, even if you're in your eighties, then surgery, Yeah, 434 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 5: it's it's possible. So let's talk for a moment before 435 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 5: the show ends. That case in Los Angeles, Wow, they 436 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: it was a Victoria Nelson is her name. She's the 437 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: one of these influencers, and she went to an esthetician 438 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 5: in Beverly Hills. The esthetician did a chemical appeal on 439 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 5: her and caused permanent scarring. And I was reading this 440 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 5: story and it's just really remarkable. The patient, I guess 441 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: she's a patient. The Victoria spent seventy one thousand dollars 442 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 5: with this esthetician, I guess only in Beverly Hills, right, 443 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: and she wound up being permanently scarred, so she sued 444 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: her and there's oh, it's a big mess out there. 445 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: The Board of Estheticians has already I guess, taken action 446 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 5: against the license of that very very popular celebrity esthetician. 447 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: Be careful when you have an esthetician do a true 448 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: medical procedure. 449 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: It's not really legal. You know. 450 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: Some people get around that by saying, well, they're doing 451 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: it under the supervision of a physician. 452 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: The physicians are on thin. 453 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: Ice if they're not in the facility when these things 454 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: are happening. And remember that the average esthetician only has 455 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 5: a few hours, may maybe a few dozen hours training 456 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: in pathology of the skin. And you're trusting an awful 457 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: lot to that esthetician if you're letting them do medical procedures. 458 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: This is only a half hour show this year. It's 459 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: too bad. 460 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: I really need more like an hour or two hours 461 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 5: to get into all the topic that I want to 462 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: talk about. But we'll be back at six o'clock next week, 463 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: and you can give me a call during the week. 464 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: Two one, two, seven, five, three, eighteen twenty is the 465 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: office number, and if you're interested in the products we 466 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: talk about on the show. It's Amazon dot com. Go 467 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: to Amazon dot com with all the benefits of Amazon 468 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 5: fast shipping and subscriptions and things like that. Noah, thanks 469 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 5: so much for great engineering. We'll see everybody next week. 470 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 5: Remember stay warm. Next week we're going to talk about 471 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 5: that winter skin I promised you. Okay, bye bye, I 472 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: have a great one. 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 1: The proceeding was a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this 474 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or 475 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: the ideas expressed.