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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Happy Friday. Welcome in. It is Cincy three sixty,

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Speaker 3: us a talkback today. We'll get to those talkbacks at

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Speaker 3: one thirty. Why because from twelve thirty to one thirty

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Speaker 3: in studio, our guy Charlie Goldsmith has joining us today, Austin.

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Speaker 3: Could there be a better time to get Charlie in

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Speaker 3: studio than today? No, because everyone's gonna freak out about yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Where was the offense? What happened to Suarez? Is it

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Speaker 3: time to panic? And Charlie can allow us all to

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Speaker 3: take a deep breath and relax a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit overreaction Friday, yes, the day after Opening Day. The

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Speaker 4: Reds are not that great on opening Day, at least

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Speaker 4: not over the last several years. I think they're like

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but it's the worst

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Speaker 4: possible feeling for a baseball fan, especially here, because of

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Speaker 4: all the pomp and circumstance and the excitement that surrounds

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Speaker 4: Opening Day, and then to have four hits, three of

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Speaker 4: them by one guy, scored no runs, leave eight on base,

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Speaker 4: and lose on a beautiful day.

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Speaker 1: It's tough.

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Speaker 3: It's tough the folks that's started obviously down at the

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Speaker 3: Grail and that made the trip over to smoke Justice

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all of that.

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Speaker 3: Had so much fun, the weather, the atmosphere at the game,

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Speaker 3: the game itself really really good stuff and an unfortunate ending.

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Speaker 3: And I think what made the ending yesterday Austin perhaps

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Speaker 3: sting a little more because in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 3: there's still one hundred and sixty one more of these,

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Speaker 3: but in the grand scheme of things, to lose a

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Speaker 3: game that if you followed this team last year, the

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Speaker 3: script felt so familiar. I think that's why you see

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Speaker 3: a little bit more of the frustration from one game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very similar to what we saw a

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Speaker 4: year ago. And I understand there's one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 4: one more games, but the games in March count the

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Speaker 4: same as the ones in September. Yeah, and every game

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Speaker 4: counts over the course of this season. So frustrating performance. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I did tell you why you slice it my dad.

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Speaker 4: As I'm walking out, I'm like, I can't do one

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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty one more games of this. Oh, Like

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Speaker 4: I need that offense to show up. Just selfishly from

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Speaker 4: like last year, there was so much of like saying

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Speaker 3: I need more.

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Speaker 1: But I was glad to see Andrew Abbott perform the

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Speaker 3: There were opportunities, let's just say that with runners in

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Speaker 3: in particular for Iohaneo Suarez to do some damage like

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Speaker 3: We saw firsthand yesterday why South Stewart hitting in the

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Speaker 1: They're going to strike out yep.

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Speaker 3: Ellie and and Suarez combined for five of the twelve

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Speaker 4: Yeah, literally first pitch of the season was lined to

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Speaker 4: That ABS challenge changed it did that ninth inning all in.

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Speaker 3: All, and we'll dive into it much more detail with Charlie.

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Speaker 3: The Reds fall three zero on opening day, off day today,

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Speaker 3: The other results from baseball yesterday if you missed it

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Speaker 3: all before the game. Paul Skeens went two thirds of

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Speaker 1: Not a great performance from O'Neil.

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Speaker 3: But as we sit here today, after the Mets beat

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Speaker 4: Stat about the Cardinals that they don't have anybody on

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Speaker 1: But I'm hoping that's not the case.

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Speaker 3: The other results. Yesterday, Orioles beat the Twins to to one.

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Speaker 1: Here's the stat I saw.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals are the only team in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: Ok, they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's incredible, Absolutely incredible. And the team a couple

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith mentioned twelve thirty to one thirty year talkbacks.

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Speaker 1: After that.

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Speaker 3: Top of our number three, Tom Glaider gonna let us

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Speaker 3: on everything that's happening with FC Cincinnati, and of course

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Speaker 3: our guy Bob Manjean, what else will we talk about

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Speaker 3: College basketball news Luke Murray, former Xavier assistant assistant at Yukon.

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Speaker 3: He now has the Boston College head coaching job. Of course,

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Speaker 4: I don't know much about him, but every time I

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Speaker 1: How about egos in that room of coaches?

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Speaker 3: How about last night Sweet sixteen action? The first two

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Speaker 2: Your front row seat to the fiercest debates in sports.

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Speaker 5: Fifty strikes, twenty balls for Abbot. Number seventy one is

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Speaker 3: Felt like the majority of the day Andrew Abbott just

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Speaker 3: He's a beast, second to Cy Young. And it felt

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Speaker 6: Tell us yes, sir, all right, you said it perfectly, Tony.

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Speaker 6: Tomorrow you get to see Sonny gray A writing who

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Speaker 6: scouting report on Dante Quarterleione because gef for draft coverage

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Speaker 3: The lack of ability to stay on the field has

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Speaker 3: I think he's a huge weapon. But his lack of

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Speaker 7: Fellas, thanks so much.

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Speaker 8: I have a great weekend. We'll chat next week.

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Speaker 3: Have a great weekend, John, Thank you you. Yeah, there

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Speaker 3: And then in really the first I guess interesting move

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Speaker 9: Hey guys? I was worried about that dark picture. He

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Speaker 9: He was sharp as attack. And when it comes to

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Speaker 3: I thought Abbit more so excelled in working around some

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Speaker 9: Rick Man. I just kept hoping, I kept keeping up

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Speaker 9: I thought, oh boy, want in trouble because I knew

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, absolutely, Mike, have a great weekend, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We got to get a break in. We got to

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Speaker 3: Here we go on a Friday since he three sixty

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Speaker 3: What's the day after opening Day? And to be quite honest, Austin,

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Speaker 1: We just needed to feel his presence, We.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Tony Doom? Well?

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Speaker 3: Are you happy to be back in Cincinnati? I am.

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Speaker 1: I love Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: Now is when the real fun begins, though, I start

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Speaker 11: get to going back to my favorite restaurants.

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Speaker 1: What did you miss most? Skyline?

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Speaker 3: start with with yesterday, Charlie, because what I think we

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Speaker 3: need to do more than anything is just calm the

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Speaker 3: nerves of everyone. Because game one of one hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixty two, but it followed a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: early similar storyline to what so many losses felt like

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Speaker 3: last year. What's the easiest way to calm a lot

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Speaker 3: of the early anxiety from Reds fans?

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Speaker 1: They faced eight innings of truly elite pitching.

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Speaker 11: I think Cruschet is probably the third best starter in baseball,

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Speaker 11: and he was on Garrett Whitlock was the setup guy

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Speaker 11: for Team USA and the WBC grade eighth innn guy.

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Speaker 11: And then Chapman's a top three, top five closer in

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Speaker 11: the game as well. I think a sneaky interesting inning

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Speaker 11: is the seventh. We can talk about that later if

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Speaker 11: you want. That was kind of the one opportunity they

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Speaker 11: had against a normal pitcher. But for eight innings to

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Speaker 11: win like that, you need that big swing. This is

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Speaker 11: a red team with much more power than it had

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Speaker 11: a year ago. But Gino is not going to be

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Speaker 11: Aaron Judge or Bryce Harper every night, and yesterday wasn't

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Speaker 11: his day.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's start with the offense, and before we get

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Speaker 3: to the moment that that you're mentioning in the bottom

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Speaker 3: of the seventh, let's talk about the lineup. Because here

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Speaker 3: comes South Stuart, young rookie, starting in the cleanup hole

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Speaker 3: for Terry Francona, and people wondered, what, you know, he

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Speaker 3: just kind of assumed it was going to be Ellie,

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Speaker 3: it was going to be Suarez, and multiple times yesterday

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Speaker 3: you see the fruits of that when I Hio Suarez

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Speaker 3: is getting up to bat with multiple runners on base. Now,

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Speaker 3: he didn't cash in yesterday, but you can see a

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Speaker 3: little bit behind the curtain of why South Stewart makes

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Speaker 3: sense in that that cleanup role.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge deal.

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Speaker 11: It's funny, like, of all the managers in baseball to

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Speaker 11: put a rookie in the cleanup spot, I think Tito

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Speaker 11: would probably be last on that list.

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Speaker 1: He is so.

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Speaker 11: He loves the set lineup, He loves that consistency, he

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Speaker 11: loves not shaking things up for the sake of shaking

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Speaker 11: it up. And clearly he's just been that impressed by

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Speaker 11: what he's seen from Sal ever since he got eyes

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Speaker 11: on him and he said, you know what, let's just

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Speaker 11: do it. And I talked to Sal about that yesterday too.

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Speaker 11: It was really cool, he said, for Tito to believe

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Speaker 11: that about about me, Like, how could I not be

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Speaker 11: so inspired to go out and play if my manager

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Speaker 11: thinks I'm that good? And Sal didn't need any more

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Speaker 11: confidence he has plenty, but that's got to help, and

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Speaker 11: I think it helps the line up too. I think

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Speaker 11: it flows better with Sal hitting forth.

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Speaker 3: There's also the realization yesterday, I think what a lot

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Speaker 3: of people know, there's an unbelievable upside with Ellie, there's

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable upside with Suarez. Those two combined to strike

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Speaker 3: out five times yesterday. It's not going to be the

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Speaker 3: first or the last game all year where they're going

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Speaker 3: to strike out multiple times. Is that when you have

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Speaker 3: players like that in your lineup, you just kind of

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Speaker 3: take an understanding going into the season that you're going

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Speaker 3: to have times where these strikeout numbers are high.

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Speaker 11: Gino especially, and this is kind of just who Gino is.

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Speaker 11: I don't have the number in front of me, but

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Speaker 11: what I always cite with Gino, I've used this going

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Speaker 11: back to his first stit in Cincinnati, was you look

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Speaker 11: at the splits for him between wins for the team

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Speaker 11: and losses for the team, and his numbers are as

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Speaker 11: drastically different as you'll see for any player in baseball.

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Speaker 1: In wins, he's.

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Speaker 11: Like Bryce Harper. In losses, he's like a backup. But

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Speaker 11: that goes to show you when he does good stuff,

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Speaker 11: you win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And because he's not a top thirty player in baseball,

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Speaker 11: he doesn't have a good average, he doesn't get on

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Speaker 11: base a ton, he doesn't do that super consistently.

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Speaker 1: He'll have his moments.

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Speaker 11: I think Ellie is the one you'd really like to

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Speaker 11: see develop more of that consistency, because that's what it

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Speaker 11: will take for him to tap into that ceiling.

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Speaker 1: But he's he's still young. He's wanting to get there.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that noelvi Marte started yesterday? No, what

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Speaker 1: I was surprised about was that they hit for him

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Speaker 1: in the seventh.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but Noelvie is a guy like you have to

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Speaker 11: play Noelvie. He is as much upside as anyone on

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Speaker 11: the team outside of Ellie. It's a team that needs

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Speaker 11: more stars. He has the ability and the skill set

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Speaker 11: to get there. There was a point in spring where

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Speaker 11: I was concerned he wouldn't get this start. They brought

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Speaker 11: him into the office, he talked with the coaches. They

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Speaker 11: gave him a nudge, They said, come on, let's go,

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Speaker 11: We need.

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Speaker 1: More from you.

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Speaker 11: He finished camp strong. He earned his spot in the

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Speaker 11: opening day lineup, but there's gonna be that consistent pressure

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Speaker 11: on him because of the outfield depth threads have.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the seventh, because it's piggyback by the

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Speaker 3: sixth where you get the bases loaded for Suarez. He

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Speaker 3: strikes out, Steer strikes out, and at one point you

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Speaker 3: just kind of tip your cap to the greatness of

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Speaker 3: Garrett Crochet as you hit on the top. But then

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Speaker 3: in the seventh and you know in the back of

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Speaker 3: your mind Whitlock and Chapman eight nine, So you're down one.

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Speaker 3: You pretty much got one opportunity at this and to

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Speaker 3: start that seventh, Tyler Stevenson walks, So you put the

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Speaker 3: first runner on base against Slayton, the relief pitcher, and

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Speaker 3: then Will Benson pinch hits for Noelve Marte. Benson goes

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Speaker 3: on to strike out. The decision to pinch hit for

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Speaker 3: Marte on top of the decision that Benson was going

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Speaker 3: to be that guy, was that surprising at all to you.

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Speaker 11: Especially when you consider the fact that Cabrian Hayes did hit.

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Speaker 11: He hitting that inning with a run rm base in

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Speaker 11: your best window against a notck great pitcher. This goes

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Speaker 11: back to spring training. Terry Francona made this decision basically

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Speaker 11: in February, because what they did in spring was I

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Speaker 11: don't think I saw Sal take a single ground ball

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Speaker 11: at third base on the backfields. I think he might

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Speaker 11: have started one game there in the spring. But if

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Speaker 11: the ideas are right, you're gonna hit for Hayes when

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Speaker 11: you're down in a big spot, in a leverage spot,

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Speaker 11: well then you obviously need someone to Backfiel, and your

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Speaker 11: options are Geno, but then you lose the DH.

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Speaker 1: Ideally Sal is able to move there.

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Speaker 11: They made the decision when they decided they're not going

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Speaker 11: to have third beast Sal's second position, his second position,

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Speaker 11: his second base, that they're just gonna have to live

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Speaker 11: with more Cabrian Hayes, high leverage at bats.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's interesting, that's notable.

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Speaker 3: That's something succeed something.

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Speaker 11: They did for Sal's sake, which I get, and it's

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Speaker 11: also obviously a soun of confidence in Cabrian Hayes.

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Speaker 1: But we identified right there, like.

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Speaker 11: The pressure point in the lineup last year, the pressure

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Speaker 11: point in the lineup was at the top because teams

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Speaker 11: would put in those lefties to face Friedle and Ellie

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Speaker 11: and they had a terrible two hitter statistically and a

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Speaker 11: terrible four hitter statistically, so they couldn't make those lefties pay.

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Speaker 11: I think McClain being better and Sal and then g

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Speaker 11: O two will solve that pressure point. I think this

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Speaker 11: now is the pressure point you're gonna see from a

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Speaker 11: pitch hip perspective.

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Speaker 4: So what would some of those options be for third base,

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Speaker 4: like Spencer Steer now Ellie pop over and they move

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Speaker 4: McClain to short and then Phil Stewart. How do you

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Speaker 4: think they could do that in a way that makes

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Speaker 4: sense consistently or is it just it's.

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Speaker 11: I asked you know specifically in the middle of March, like,

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Speaker 11: can Sala move to third? And his answer was basically

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Speaker 11: like he can, right, And he kind of said it

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Speaker 11: like that. And I don't want to harp on this

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Speaker 11: one decision, but I think it's something we like genuinely

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Speaker 11: learned about how they viewed and how they're gonna manage

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Speaker 11: this team this year, which is why I think it's

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Speaker 11: so interesting. Again, Tito talked about wanting to not put

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Speaker 11: to put too much on Sal defensively in spring, as

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Speaker 11: he really learned a position that's brand new to him

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Speaker 11: in first base.

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Speaker 1: I think most likely they'd shift Sal.

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Speaker 11: The third, but I think it really have to be

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Speaker 11: a leverage spot to like hit Benson for Marte. And

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Speaker 11: I think Marte is important to bring up too, because

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Speaker 11: he didn't get hit against the rity and he's better

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Speaker 11: against righty's. Yeah, and that's something I'd want to see,

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Speaker 11: but that's not something we saw yesterday, and so that

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Speaker 11: was a missed opportunity against a vulnerable pitchure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it felt like too, like you mentioned a

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Speaker 3: chance to hit off a righty that's not whitlock for

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Speaker 3: Noeva Marte. It's a chance to hit off a guy

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Speaker 3: that you have your best chance, especially when a pitcher

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Speaker 3: comes in in his first appearance and he walks the

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Speaker 3: first batter immediately, the pressure is turned up just a

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Speaker 3: little bit. And I think I made the mention in

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Speaker 3: the bat. It's not like Will Benson historically's a guy

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Speaker 3: that if he gets two strikes he's gonna choke up

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Speaker 3: and try to make contact. He swung to put the

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Speaker 3: Reds on top every time he's swung in that at bat.

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Speaker 3: So it is interesting, and you wonder how much of

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Speaker 3: this with the manager in Terry Francona, is just kind

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Speaker 3: of learning on the fly. I know spring training goes

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Speaker 3: on for a long time, but you get in these

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Speaker 3: leverage situations. There's still a lot that even Terry Francona,

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Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame resume, still probably gonna have to

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Speaker 3: learn how some guys operate within this lineup and how

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Speaker 3: to use them.

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Speaker 11: What I think it really is is we just know

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Speaker 11: so much more about how he used this step chart.

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Speaker 11: That's not really a baseball term, but it's a football

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Speaker 11: term um borrowing, because I mean, you get a specific

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Speaker 11: scenario that shows here's how the Reds are going to

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Speaker 11: approach something going forward. And I think that's something like

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Speaker 11: you can take from opening Day. You don't overreact to

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Speaker 11: what they did against Crochet. What you do is you

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Speaker 11: see situations and say, well, here's what they're thinking, and

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Speaker 11: here's what that shows us about how they view each

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Speaker 11: of these players. I think part of that, for better

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Speaker 11: or for worse, I think part of it's a soun

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Speaker 11: of confidence in Lebron Hayes.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a long story about this.

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Speaker 11: What the Reds seeing him offensively, and that they believe

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Speaker 11: he can be something that he hasn't shown to be

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Speaker 11: in two years. Like they do believe that, and they

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Speaker 11: will give him that chance, and that'll be an interesting

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Speaker 11: part of the season seeing how that develops.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's say that this is an issue for a

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Speaker 4: little while, just and say it's a possibility where stuff

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Speaker 4: like that happens consistently. I saw Edwin Arroyo in triple A.

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Speaker 4: Is that a possibility as somebody who could come up

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Speaker 4: and play that position.

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Speaker 11: He's never played third. I think he'd be a better

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Speaker 11: fit at second. I also, Edwin will have to earn

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Speaker 11: his way up with the bat. Sure, Edwin has to

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Speaker 11: prove I'll just say, look to me that that he

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Speaker 11: can impact and damage the baseball and be more than

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Speaker 11: a defensive specialist. Oh and by the way, he's got

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Speaker 11: to improve the consistency of his defense. I mean, like

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Speaker 11: in Triple A, like the the you know, like sess

658
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Speaker 11: is like their first third base is there? Is there

659
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Speaker 11: their first third baseman? Who who'd come up? And that's

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Speaker 11: the thing, Like he's got a lot to prove, Like

661
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Speaker 11: there isn't necessarily an answer for this. It's either Cabrian hits,

662
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Speaker 11: it's Sell all of a sudden gets third base on

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Speaker 11: his plate. It's you start playing Geno more at third

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Speaker 11: and do different things with your DH. I think a

665
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Speaker 11: fascinating subplot of this season is what can Gino give you,

666
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Speaker 11: if anything defensively just with where he's at in his career,

667
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Speaker 11: or you have to try to force something in a

668
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Speaker 11: Pacific scenario with Arroyo, we're at a position he's never

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Speaker 11: played or cees.

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Speaker 3: There is so much of this and you mentioned it.

671
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Speaker 3: One of the top five starters in baseball, arguably the

672
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Speaker 3: best setup and closer in baseball. Runs are going to

673
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Speaker 3: be hard to come by for a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: against that Boston starter with that bullpen. What I look

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Speaker 3: now is what changes tomorrow? How different if any do

676
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Speaker 3: you think this lineup looks like against a righty and

677
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Speaker 3: sunny Gray tomorrow?

678
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Speaker 1: Probably not that different.

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Speaker 11: And there's such a right handed team And that was

680
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Speaker 11: something that like the moves they made over the last year,

681
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Speaker 11: how that moved Bentson into maybe more of a bench

682
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Speaker 11: role playing role like Freedo and Ellier.

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Speaker 1: This team's only lefties.

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Speaker 11: Like the questions to me is like, all right, Marte

685
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Speaker 11: hit eighth against the lefty?

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Speaker 1: Do he and.

687
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Speaker 11: Steer swap spots because it's a righty er? He and

688
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Speaker 11: Stevenson swap spots tomorrow? I wonder if they just give

689
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Speaker 11: Gino a start at third, just kind of because he

690
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Speaker 11: missed spring training and he kind of doesn't need some

691
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Speaker 11: reps at third, and that's something they want to have

692
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Speaker 11: on their played available to them. I wonder if well

693
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Speaker 11: Benson gets in there. I wonder if sal just make

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Speaker 11: sure he's okay, come it off the wrist. But I

695
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Speaker 11: don't see there on a day to day basis, like

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Speaker 11: in the lineup projection that I have, I actually don't

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Speaker 11: just from how I see it, have any difference.

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Speaker 3: Love for us, right, yeah, we still need to get

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Speaker 3: to the pitching. I want to get to some injury

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Speaker 3: updates as well. Let's get ourselves a break. We'll finish

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Speaker 3: up hour one when we return ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back in the action, Tony Pike. Sincy three

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Speaker 2: sixty is back now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: All right, rolling along our number one thanks to Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 3: It is SINCY three sixty with Charlie Goldsmith in studio

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Speaker 3: with us till one thirty this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: There was Charlie a.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say a panic, but maybe an uneasiness around

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Speaker 3: the spring training of Andrew Abbott. And we had this

711
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Speaker 3: constant back and forth on the show of how much

712
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Speaker 3: do you react to spring training or how much do

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Speaker 3: you just say these guys are figuring it out. Garrett

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Speaker 3: Crochet had a seven plus ERA throughout spring training, and

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Speaker 3: you know, water kind of finds its level for these guys.

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Speaker 3: But for Andrew Abbot, a lot is all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden put on his plate because as the starter now,

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Speaker 3: not Hunter Green, not Nicklodolo, your first two starts alone,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be going against Garrett Crochet and now Paul

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Speaker 3: Skins on Wednesday of next week. So there's an inherent

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Speaker 3: pressure that comes with understanding your margin ferrer is gonna

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Speaker 3: be smaller. And we saw a shaky spring for Andrew Abbot.

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Speaker 3: What did you see on the mound from him yesterday

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Speaker 3: that you liked?

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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, there was just this zip that

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Speaker 11: his pitches had, especially his fastball, and like that can

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Speaker 11: be his elite like mechanical gift, Like he is elite

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Speaker 11: like feel and he knows how to pitch and he

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Speaker 11: has all these soft skills, but the way that fastball

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Speaker 11: rises when it's on, like that's a part of what

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Speaker 11: makes him special. He had that, and then he just

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Speaker 11: had this Abbot like unflappability. There were runners on, there

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Speaker 11: were plays, you know, there were dinks and first pitch

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Speaker 11: of the game, yeah, there was just a simple ground

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Speaker 11: ball up the middle of that. It looked like Ellie

736
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Speaker 11: and McLain like, we're worried about running into the umpire.

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Speaker 11: So neither of them made a play on that ball.

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Speaker 11: Like that was my view of that play. And weird

739
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Speaker 11: stuff happened. You know, Stuart gets hit on the wrist, break,

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Speaker 11: Abbott gets it back together and gets out of it.

741
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Speaker 11: Like all that stuff that is Andrew Abbott, and that's

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Speaker 11: just who he has been throughout his career ever consistently,

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Speaker 11: except when he was worn down in September of twenty

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Speaker 11: three and four, but that shouldn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: Just he's been good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his ability, I thought yesterday it's kind of the unflappableness.

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Speaker 3: You know, he gives up first pitch of the season,

748
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Speaker 3: Roman Anthony rips for a single, and he works around

749
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Speaker 3: multiple base runners throughout the game, and as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: when when you need him the most. It felt like

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Speaker 3: he pitched at his best yesterday and gave this team

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Speaker 3: a chance. I mean, he went punch for punch with

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Speaker 3: Garrett Crochet for six innings yesterday and no one runs.

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Speaker 11: And I think the story is like the story story

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Speaker 11: is that, like he was so bad in spring and

756
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Speaker 11: then he had that conversation with Terry Francona. And what's

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Speaker 11: cool about my job, especially it's spring training, but we

758
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Speaker 11: still get some of this during the season. Is that

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Speaker 11: just literally saw that conversation with Terry Francona happened like

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Speaker 11: it was just there, like it was out in the space.

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Speaker 11: Abbott had just gotten done in the bullpen. Abbott was

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Speaker 11: then like walking to do a pitching fielding drill, like

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Speaker 11: on one of the fields, and Tito was waiting for him.

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Speaker 11: He caught up with him and he just put his

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Speaker 11: arm around him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like, huh, Tito's got his arm around Abbitt.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 11: And Abbot's mentioned that conversation at least five times since then.

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Speaker 11: And there's just got to be something empowering of your

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Speaker 11: boss saying.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you're good.

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Speaker 11: Like I think we all can relate to that, Like

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Speaker 11: there's just something that's like all right, And I think

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Speaker 11: Abbot was able to reset in that way and getting

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Speaker 11: a good headspace entering the season.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't a great first opportunity for the bullpen. Yesterday, Pierce Johnson,

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Speaker 3: last the start of an inning and two hits, does

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Speaker 3: give up dear and run in the seventh. Connor Phillips,

779
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Speaker 3: a victim of the ABS, gets roughed up for two

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Speaker 3: in his outing as well. You've seen a lot of

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Speaker 3: Pierce Johnson, You've seen a lot of counter Phillips feels

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Speaker 3: these guys are going to be guys that Terry Francona

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Speaker 3: feels like he's going to be able to rely on

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Speaker 3: for the majority of part of the season.

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Speaker 11: I want to start with this. TJ friedl on that

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Speaker 11: double in the gap in the seventh inning. That's the

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Speaker 11: run that scored the balls in the air, and I

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Speaker 11: said out loud, and I'm talking to myself, like I said,

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Speaker 11: I said.

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Speaker 1: This is the play. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: TJ talked so much and it is so important to him.

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Speaker 11: He was frustrated about the year he had defensively last year,

793
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Speaker 11: and the numbers show it, you know, first step range,

794
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Speaker 11: that kind of stuff, just top end sprint speed twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty five wasn't what TJ wanted. And no one on

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Speaker 11: the team worked harder than TJ. He put in the

797
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Speaker 11: work to improve all that kind of stuff. But ultimately

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Speaker 11: you got to do it. And I don't have many

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Speaker 11: more chances. But also he's a guy who's playing more

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Speaker 11: left field than he used to.

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy.

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Speaker 11: You know, the Reds have experimented with Noelvie Marte in center.

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Speaker 11: They have the option of putting Dave Myers in center,

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Speaker 11: the option of belly, of putting.

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Speaker 1: Little Benson in center.

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Speaker 11: TJ has to make more of those highlight plays this year.

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Speaker 11: I think that'll be a I think it's a play

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Speaker 11: that a team that's building through pitching and defense. I

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Speaker 11: think a team ideally has an elite center field er,

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Speaker 11: and TJ is working to get back to that like

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Speaker 11: he's been in the past. It's a process. But those

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Speaker 11: are specifically plays to watch, and I didn't answer your

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Speaker 11: question at all about.

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Speaker 1: Them, does you know.

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Speaker 3: I think we mentioned this yesterday. You get into like

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Speaker 3: playoff baseball, and we make so much during the year

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Speaker 3: about starting lineups and starting rotations, and then you get

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs and it's high leverage situations. Starters aren't

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Speaker 3: going very deep into games because they're throwing so many pitches.

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Speaker 3: And yet watching the playoffs, it feels like every guy

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Speaker 3: that these teams roll out of the bullpen sub three

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Speaker 3: e RA comes in in situations and they close the

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Speaker 3: door and get the job done. Does this current bullpen

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Speaker 3: possess that upside in the Reds?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion?

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Speaker 11: Upside is a very very interesting word in this bullpen.

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Speaker 11: So what they invested in was consistency and reliability. Like

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Speaker 11: Pierre Johnson, his whole thing is he is solid, yeah,

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Speaker 11: and he spins that curve ball and he's.

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Speaker 1: Got a floor. A. Brock Burke had a rough.

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Speaker 11: Spring, and actually I thought it was notable yesterday that

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Speaker 11: he was lower on that bullpen depth chart than I expected.

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Speaker 11: But for his career, he's a guy who you feel

834
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Speaker 11: like you know what you're getting. Caleb Ferguson's hurt, but

835
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Speaker 11: he is the epitome of a solid veteran left handed.

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Speaker 11: This bullpend does need more upside. That's Conor Phillips, That's

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Speaker 11: Louise May, that's Zach Maxwell. Now that's kylein Nicholas. Most

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Speaker 11: of those guys right now are in triple A. I

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Speaker 11: think long term, for the bullpen to really rise to

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Speaker 11: an elite status, one or two of those guys needs

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Speaker 11: to elevate into a leverage guy, just like Connor Phillips

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Speaker 11: did last September. I thought he threw the ball very

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Speaker 11: well yesterday until the ABS thing happened, and that's something

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Speaker 11: we're all adjusting to. I think Phillips has the highest

845
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Speaker 11: upside of that group, but to support and supplement two

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Speaker 11: guys in Pegana and Santian who are very good but

847
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Speaker 11: we're used too much last year, and then you look

848
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Speaker 11: at those solid middle relievers, I think you also want

849
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Speaker 11: to see more guys guy who can get elite elite

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Speaker 11: hitters out. I think that was a part of why

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Speaker 11: Sam Mall there yesterday. He can at least get the

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Speaker 11: elite lefties out, and I think that was a I

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Speaker 11: mean I talked about the pitch hitting stuff, like I

854
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Speaker 11: was stunned that Tito puts Sam All in that spot

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Speaker 11: and boy that worked.

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Speaker 1: Boy that was.

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Speaker 11: Really really smart deploying sam All the way he did

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Speaker 11: and having confidence on what he saw from Mall in

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Speaker 11: the spring translating in that moment, Mall ended up being

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Speaker 11: much higher on my bo on the bullbendep shirt than

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Speaker 11: I projected. But again to sum it up, they have veterans,

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Speaker 11: they need more upside around.

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Speaker 3: That still want to get to some injury updates, still

864
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Speaker 3: want to get to now looking ahead and moving forward,

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Speaker 3: especially with this rotation. Before we get to that, was

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Speaker 3: there anything else from yesterday's game specifically that that stood

867
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Speaker 3: out or is worth noting of what you saw from

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Speaker 3: being there?

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Speaker 1: Stuart Abbott?

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Speaker 11: Are you let me get to this the ABS system?

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Speaker 11: I mean I said to you guys like you could

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Speaker 11: do a full segment on strategy, and I think we

873
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Speaker 11: could do that, Like I think we could do that

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Speaker 11: today based on how we saw it swing.

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Speaker 1: Phillips is in it.

876
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 11: There was a spot I believe in the fourth it

877
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 11: was one of Gino's at bats where it was going

878
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 11: to be a full count and in full counts Geno

879
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 11: as like an eight point five all Star caliber or

880
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 11: point eight five all star caliber ops. Yeah, and he

881
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 11: just doesn't get that swing anymore because the challenge took

882
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 11: away that full count opportunity and he struck out. And

883
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 11: then even Stevenson's challenges like that created a cool buzz

884
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 11: and energy in the park.

885
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: So that Stevens is likezer point three of an inch

886
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: or some'm off the play too, is incredible.

887
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 11: That could have swung that game. And there are gonna

888
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 11: be moments like that. You can say, hey, you know,

889
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 11: Threads ended the game of challenges in their pocket. Should

890
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 11: they had been more aggressive using them? Like you can

891
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 11: should they have used the more when the more susceptible

892
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 11: pitchers were in the game, Like you can play this

893
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 11: game and go through it all day, and the teams

894
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 11: that use the strategy the best will win more games.

895
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: The people that I was sitting by as like casual fans,

896
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: I think were taken back a little bit by how

897
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: quick the replay goes like when you see the umpire

898
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: walking out, like, oh, here we go, and then boom,

899
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: you're right back into it. So I think the overall

900
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: speed and the easiest of which it happens, I think

901
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: is gonna lend a powerful hand as well.

902
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: There were times in spring training where I was like, Gosh,

903
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: this is taking too long, and I think it was

904
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: just the facilities there maybe not as up to date

905
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 4: or ready to go as a major league ballpark was.

906
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: But I was very impressed with it yesterday.

907
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 4: And to your point, Charlie, like there is an anticipation

908
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 4: everybody kind of leans in on their seat to say, Okay,

909
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: here we go. How close was this? And there was

910
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: some electric moments I felt like.

911
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 11: But like you can talk about how it impacted Phillips

912
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 11: and that inning and what that meant for the game.

913
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 11: The other side of that coin is the fact that

914
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 11: the Red Sox didn't waste challenges early in the game

915
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 11: ended up being huge. Like you could if you're Alex Krey,

916
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 11: give a high five to everyone in that lineup for

917
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 11: not wasting challenges and making sure you have that challenge

918
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 11: remaining in your back pocket and entering the ninth like

919
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 11: there are all these little moments where your strategy shapes

920
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 11: how the game ends up playing out. And again, the

921
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 11: teams that do that the best will find value in

922
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 11: the margin.

923
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: Have the Reds defined what their strategy is or they're

924
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 4: keeping that close to the best, No, pretty I.

925
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 11: Have a pretty good feel for it. They've talked about leverage.

926
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 11: I mean, they've talked about important spots. They've talked about

927
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 11: saving them for lake game scenarios and not being too

928
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 11: aggressive early. They're one of the teams that's not letting

929
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 11: their pitchers challenge. Their big line is no emotional challenges.

930
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 11: I would say that is the thesis statement. You know,

931
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 11: you can see Tito getting on a guy who's frustrated

932
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 11: and feels like he needs a hit and ends up

933
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 11: wasting a challenge like that's something they really harped on,

934
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 11: and then it's something the catchers are really taking to heart.

935
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 11: Stevenson told me yesterday that he expects to use it

936
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 11: more defensively than offensively, which is ironic because he was

937
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 11: the right writer who challenged yesterday. But so you can

938
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 11: see them trying to play the game almost like they

939
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 11: like to say, the harpeat of the game to dictating.

940
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: Anythink there are teams that are like, no challenges before

941
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: the fifth no matter what.

942
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: I think there was some triple teams who did that. Obviously,

943
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: this is using to play.

944
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 11: The Brewers had a green card system where before the

945
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 11: pitch a coach was like the challenges on and then

946
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 11: the league knicksed that and said that's too much information

947
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 11: that we're not going to allow that. But the Brewers

948
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 11: are alluded to the fact that, like, there are other

949
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 11: ways we can communicate that. Some teams are going to

950
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 11: make this very scientific and say all right, we like

951
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 11: a fourth down decision bot and just go with the bot.

952
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 11: I think based on what the threads have said, there's

953
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 11: gonna be an analytics component, but more of a field composer.

954
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 4: Do they do they have someone like on staff who's

955
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 4: like really working on this throughout the course of the season,

956
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: or like in the dugout or anything that is not

957
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: not yet.

958
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna change.

959
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 11: I think that would be a perfect use of Mike

960
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 11: Napoli because he's a guy who can say, hey, you know,

961
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 11: player cks bad challenge. He can see the game as

962
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 11: a catcher. He has that toughness and that credibility in

963
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 11: the dugout to be able to do that as a

964
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 11: former player. It's Bill Hasselman the new catching coaches responsibility

965
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 11: right now, but most of what he done has been

966
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 11: just kind of educating the catchers on it. The answer

967
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 11: really is no, And I asked that specifically to Tito.

968
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 11: There's not a there's not a Sam Francis. There's not

969
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 11: a challenge coach. I bet that changes before.

970
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: The end of the year. Seventeen challenges across Major League

971
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,280
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972
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: had three one challenges in one game yesterday, So obviously

973
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,440
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974
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1014
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: let's start with this Nicolodolo the blisters. This is something

1015
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Speaker 3: I'm going to talk with Bob Mangeen at Novacare today

1016
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: about is there a concern around Nicolodolo because you're now

1017
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: starting the season and the blisters are already issue and

1018
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: we've not gotten into June and July and those hot months.

1019
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: How much of an issue could this become for Niclodolo.

1020
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: I think there's no idea.

1021
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like that's kind of the weird thing about this,

1022
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 11: this blister issues like your hands are kind of tide.

1023
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 11: If your Nick, if you're the rights, you feel like

1024
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 11: you have already done everything you could. They were trying

1025
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 11: red light therapy to stimulate cell growth. You know, people

1026
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 11: talk about Nick filing the FI. He's like, I already

1027
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 11: have a callous like I truly and the Reds have

1028
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 11: said this like they don't know what more else they

1029
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 11: can do. So is the blister issue now out of

1030
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 11: the way because he's gotten it early and it'll tough,

1031
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 11: tough and over and be in a good spot for

1032
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 11: the season. I have no idea. I don't know that

1033
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 11: they have an idea. I saw Nick throw yesterday. He's

1034
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 11: gonna keep throwing. Tito said that there wasn't like a

1035
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 11: set rehab date yet.

1036
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't get the.

1037
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 11: Sense this is going to be too long term. But

1038
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 11: the blister is truly what is holding Nick back from

1039
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 11: being rightfully so viewed as one of the best young

1040
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 11: lefties in the game.

1041
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: And it's just it's so worrisome too, because it can

1042
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: pop up at any time, and that's the thing for

1043
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: a picture. You feel discomfort in your arm, or feel

1044
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 3: discomfort in your lower body. Okay, we got a blistered

1045
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: It just feels like something that can come on so

1046
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: quick and be a devastating setback for this team.

1047
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 11: And what was weird about this one was he usually

1048
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 11: gets these in August, like July August, like there had

1049
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 11: been a schedule to get it in March. And I

1050
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 11: think a part of that was the insane heat that

1051
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 11: they were laying dude, to the point where it's like,

1052
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 11: should they almost have just had Nick throw an air

1053
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 11: conditioned to bullpen to not even risk anything with the blister,

1054
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 11: Like I don't know, but maybe like to the heat

1055
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 11: I think has been the biggest predictor. But it's something

1056
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 11: that like there is no science here, Like it's something

1057
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 11: that you can't really figure out.

1058
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 4: Is does it have anything to do with the grip

1059
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: of his slider specifically? Would that be like the next

1060
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: possible thing, And obviously he doesn't want to do that,

1061
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 4: but if that continues to keep him off the field,

1062
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: would he be open minded to that?

1063
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he should be.

1064
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 11: Right, And I've talked to Nick about this, like that

1065
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 11: sliders what makes him special?

1066
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: Right one?

1067
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 11: And so all right, if you change your grip now

1068
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 11: you're like just not as good. Also, he changed his

1069
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 11: slider grip in twenty twenty four, he like overcompensated to

1070
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 11: adjust and put less wear and tear on where the

1071
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 11: blister was occurring, and that is the specific reason why

1072
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 11: he suffered a season ending finger injury to his ring

1073
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 11: finger or to his uh, either his ring or his

1074
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 11: middle finger. I've heard time keeping that together, but Nick

1075
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 11: overcompensating adjusts his grip and still trying to throw the

1076
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 11: best version of his slider. That's what ended his season

1077
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four, So he can't do that.

1078
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: I wonder as well, because we saw this when he

1079
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: was in the minors, We've seen it multiple times since

1080
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: he's been with the big league squad. I wonder if

1081
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: this is something early in the process of high school

1082
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: or college. Did he suffer with it then is it

1083
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: something that developed after the fact, like when you're watching

1084
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: or recruiting or thinking about a player you're gonna take,

1085
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 3: are you taking into account or are these an issue

1086
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: that has been prevalent in high school in college that

1087
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: Nickolodolo has dealt with.

1088
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 11: And I don't know, but I bet a part of

1089
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 11: that too is like Nicolodolo's breaking ball, which causes it

1090
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 11: is something that developed over time, and as you get older,

1091
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 11: inevitably you'll start spinning the ball stronger. You'll be stronger,

1092
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 11: your pitches will have more force. You're putting more. Every

1093
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 11: pitch matters more, so there's that extra oomp. It all

1094
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 11: ties together.

1095
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: What about salth Stewart, He took that line drive to

1096
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: the wrist hand yesterday. It looked terrible. I can't believe

1097
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: he stayed in the game and then performed as well

1098
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: as he did after the game. What did he say

1099
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: after the game about that? Basically, it was like I

1100
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: asked if it was broke? Excuse me, sal said on

1101
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: the field, Like he asked, is it broken? And they

1102
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 4: said no, And they're like and he's like, all right, cool,

1103
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: Like I'm in, Like I'm fine.

1104
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 11: I know they were gonna get it. They checked it

1105
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 11: during the game. They were going to check it again today.

1106
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 11: There's always concern specifically with risks, Like we just saw

1107
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 11: Jackson Surio go on the IL with a wrist injury

1108
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 11: that he technically suffered in the WBC. Like again, hopefully

1109
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 11: it all develops great, but they're gonna have to check

1110
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 11: him again to make sure it's all clear.

1111
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: Uh, the status or what the plan is do we

1112
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: know as much at this point of how they're going

1113
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 3: to handle Hunter Green going forward, Hunter.

1114
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 11: Is going to be in Arizona. I'd like to give

1115
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 11: a shout out right now to rehab coordinator Eric Gonzalez,

1116
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 11: kind of like the under the radar huge guy. He

1117
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 11: is the rehab coordinator for Arizona. And I talked to

1118
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 11: Rhet Louder, Brandon Williamson, che Spurns, Carson Spires during spring

1119
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 11: just about how great he was with them, because that's

1120
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 11: not easy being in Arizona.

1121
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and twenty degrees.

1122
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 11: You're away from the team, you feel removed, You're you're

1123
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 11: you've got to be sad. You know you're on the IL,

1124
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 11: you're on the sixty day IL usually, and he has done.

1125
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: A very very good job with those guys.

1126
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 11: So Hunter will be working with Eric in Phoenix or

1127
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 11: Goodyear until mid May. In May, there will be conversations

1128
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 11: as he ramps up the throng program of having him

1129
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 11: do that with the big league staff with the team,

1130
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 11: but those are decisions that will be made in May.

1131
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: Other name on the list, Caleb Ferguson with the Oblique

1132
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: For those that aren't familiar, how important is he or

1133
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: is he viewed as a big part of this this

1134
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: bullpen for the Reds.

1135
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 11: When they signed and Tito literally called him and said, man,

1136
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 11: you were in need for us. Yeah again, sim Mal

1137
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 11: like really impressed me yesterday And that was a really

1138
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 11: nice decision by Tino.

1139
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: But that's what they signed Ferguson to do.

1140
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 11: Like they put mall In down a run, not high

1141
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 11: leverage technically, but in my opinion, high leverage, close game

1142
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 11: right there in the balance, top of the lineup. Give

1143
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 11: me a left handed specialist, and Ferguson is a guy.

1144
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 11: Look at his track record. He is a good left

1145
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 11: handed specialist on very good teams. Like he just does

1146
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 11: that and he fills that clear role for the Reds. Uh,

1147
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 11: let's get one more break in while we have Charlie.

1148
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 11: We'll come back and we'll wrap with Charlie at one

1149
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 11: thirty talkbacks.

1150
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: After that, we got to ask him about the clock.

1151
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: We've got to know about Charlie Stotts on the clock

1152
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: next ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, rolling along since

1153
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: he three to sixty. Charlie Goldsmith with us here for

1154
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: one more segment, and we have to finish this with

1155
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the Votto clock. Yeah, before we get

1156
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: to that and off day today for the Reds. We

1157
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: know what the we talked earlier about the lineup and

1158
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: the potential against Sonny Gray, a right hander as opposed

1159
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: to a lefty, the pitching rotation and the way it's

1160
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: been set because of Hunter Green and Nicolodolo. Tomorrow will

1161
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 3: be Brater, Brady Singer, Rhet Louder, Chase Burns, Brandon Williamson.

1162
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: Just talk a little bit about what you saw from

1163
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: the rest of the rotation as they get set out

1164
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: to make their first starts.

1165
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 11: I think Brady kind of gets a bit miscategorized a

1166
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 11: bit because we talk about you know what you're gonna

1167
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 11: get from Brady. Actually think while you know what you're

1168
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 11: getting from an innings perspective, there were games last year

1169
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 11: where his stuff was just awesome. I think it was

1170
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 11: like thirteen starts of six plus innings to a few runs.

1171
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 11: Then he had like three terrible days. So you know

1172
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 11: the innings you're getting, but I'm always interested to see

1173
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 11: just how the stuff looks and what that can mean

1174
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 11: for the upside of the rotation. I think a sneaky

1175
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 11: smart move from Tito was after Lodolo got removed, he

1176
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 11: then pushed Louder up to make sure that the Red

1177
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 11: Sox didn't face Burns, because the Red Sox clearly have

1178
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 11: something on Chase Burns, so Chase will now face the Pirates.

1179
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 11: I'd also like to give a shout out to Jose Franco,

1180
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 11: who is the long man in the Reds bullpen. Now

1181
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 11: it's not a six for five situation. He is kind

1182
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 11: of a true long length guy. Probably he'd pitch in

1183
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 11: a loss. It would be his big league debut, kind

1184
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 11: of broke out out of nowhere after Tommy John big presence,

1185
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 11: big energy, throws hard, huge energy, huge personality. One of

1186
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 11: my favorite quotes of the spring was Chase telling me, Chase,

1187
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 11: excuse me. Chase Petty said, I'm from New Jersey, He's

1188
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 11: from Venezuela, but he's one of my best friends on

1189
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 11: the planet.

1190
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: You don't get to see anything because of Brandon Williamson

1191
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: in the time he missed, Rhet Louder missed a lot

1192
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: of time. How much of an unknown is the back

1193
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: end of this rotation right now? Which at one point

1194
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 3: with Hunter Green and Nickelodola, you wondered, how is there

1195
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: going to be enough spots for these guys. Now they're

1196
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 3: being thrust into the starting rotation. What did you see

1197
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: from a Brandon Williamson and a Ret Louder in Spring.

1198
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 11: Well, first, let me say, I think the underdiscussed story

1199
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 11: of the Spring was Chase Burns was searching for a while,

1200
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 11: like he kind of lost it in terms of it

1201
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 11: being like rolling momentum all that kind of stuff. The

1202
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 11: fast balkman wasn't where it needed to be. There was

1203
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 11: then the dload situation. He's not quite as build up,

1204
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 11: all built up, all the way as you'd like him

1205
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 11: to be.

1206
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: I would be.

1207
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 11: More concerned talking about him right now, but it really

1208
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 11: felt like he flipped a switch in Milwaukee. I start,

1209
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 11: maybe some of it was just getting out of the desert,

1210
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 11: and because you're your pitch has spin better out of

1211
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 11: the desert, the efficiency and command and aggression against the

1212
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 11: Burrs was key Louder. I mean, he's just read Louder

1213
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 11: like he's the one. I feel like he's the one,

1214
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 11: like you know exactly what you're gonna get from. He competes,

1215
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 11: he's on flappable, he's a gamer. The pitches are underrated.

1216
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 11: And then Williams said man, I'm really happy for him.

1217
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 11: There was a great moment yesterday where after pregame, you know, announcements, introductions,

1218
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 11: he pulled Lodolo aside they're best friends, and they got

1219
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 11: a picture and then they got another picture where they

1220
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 11: did like the TCU horns up all side, Like, this

1221
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 11: is really cool for Williamson to not just be back,

1222
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 11: but to be this confident about what he can do

1223
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 11: right now being back.

1224
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: Follow Up on Burns, we've heard like the routine thing

1225
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 4: between starts and kind of figuring out how to be

1226
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: excuse me, a big league picture, a big league starter.

1227
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: Do you think this is my word? Is this the

1228
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 4: right word?

1229
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Like?

1230
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: The maturity of learning how to do that is something

1231
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: that they are working on with Chase Burns.

1232
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Maturity is not a bad thing.

1233
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 11: Like, we don't have time right now, but I could

1234
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 11: tell you about the story and the journey that Hunter

1235
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 11: Green went on, that Abbot went on. Lodolo's journey was

1236
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 11: more specifically injury related. But like even Andrew Rabbit, we

1237
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 11: would all say, this is a very mature guy. He

1238
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 11: had to learn what the heck he was supposed to

1239
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 11: do between stars. Yeah, like Burns, I locked in on

1240
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 11: him on his last workday good year, and he was

1241
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 11: working a lot about like kind of his stride coming

1242
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 11: down the mound, and Derek Johnson was very hands on

1243
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 11: right there, kind of working on the angle and the

1244
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 11: pacing and the timing downhill. So they were adding that in.

1245
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 11: And then after the bullpen he threw in the final

1246
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 11: day of spring, he got some work in with Robin,

1247
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 11: who you know, very talented. I believe technically she's like

1248
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 11: the plate's instructor. I don't want to demonistrate or to

1249
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 11: limit her title to just that she works with a

1250
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 11: lot of that flexibility, mobility type stuff, and he was

1251
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,479
Speaker 11: doing some of I guess some strength is the wrong word,

1252
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 11: but probably range of motion and athletic training with her,

1253
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 11: So that can probably help him be where he needs

1254
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 11: to be.

1255
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: Would you do a pilates class for Fox nineteen with

1256
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, one of the Reds. I'm not like, for

1257
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 4: a day, do pilates with the Reds.

1258
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 11: I'm not going to pretend I was a great athlete,

1259
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 11: but in my athletic career, Plates was actually very important.

1260
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 11: I did pilates and that helped me be the best

1261
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 11: basketball and tennis player I could be.

1262
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: I didn't say i'd be good.

1263
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 11: That is very hard ask ask Kyle Farmer how hard

1264
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 11: kyl Farmer could talk for thirty minutes right now about that.

1265
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: I think Kyle Farmer is going to start for the

1266
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 4: Braves this year. Is is there on the mound. I

1267
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 4: know it's early.

1268
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 3: Do you do you start to look ahead at a

1269
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 3: louder Williamson and even at Chase Burns about innings, restricttions,

1270
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: ratings as the season goes on.

1271
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Has that all been discussed.

1272
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 11: It's one of the fascinating stories, even in April, because

1273
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 11: I think Williamson had the most normal spring of the group,

1274
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 11: so he's probably built up the most right now, but

1275
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 11: he probably has the hardest innings cap because he probably

1276
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 11: because he hasn't pitched in two years. That was a

1277
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 11: part of the whole idea of the six for five

1278
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 11: rotation to manage these guys innings up front. You can

1279
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 11: do less of that without Dolo. That's where Franco factors in.

1280
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 11: It's a especially going to be important with Burns because

1281
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 11: of the hiccups he had in spring.

1282
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully, you know, Lodola will come back soon.

1283
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 11: Green will come back when he comes back, and you

1284
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 11: can manage it more in the middle that would have

1285
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 11: liked to have probably managed a more upfront. They'll have

1286
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 11: to manage a more upfront with Burns because of how

1287
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 11: his spring went.

1288
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: What about managing yourself? You know you've had a you've

1289
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: had a long spring, and then that goes into opening

1290
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: day now and off day. How much of a challenge

1291
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 3: is it. Do you just turn everything off and get

1292
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: a reset for a day?

1293
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that's that's his way of saying, I'm not

1294
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: turning it all off. This is more You're pushing the

1295
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: throttle even heavier right now.

1296
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: Now.

1297
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: You were busy yesterday. But on a on on this

1298
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: show with Moe yesterday in Austin, we all made an agreement,

1299
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: a pact sure that if the Reds win the World

1300
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: Series this year, that we will all be getting the

1301
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: clock tattooed somewhere on our bodies.

1302
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 11: So if we're gonna go top five, fears for me,

1303
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Speaker 11: birds are definitely up there. Oh my gosh, I'm not

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Speaker 11: on needles. I will you can take this to the bank.

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Speaker 11: I will never get a tattoo.

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Speaker 3: And it's not personal, not even if it meant a

1307
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: Red's World Series National championship.

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Speaker 1: Bustin is making a valid point as well.

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Speaker 3: But I don't fan. Yes, I don't know if the bets.

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Speaker 1: Win at all. I think I hate needles. That tattoo.

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Speaker 1: We'll put you under for it. I think I hate needles.

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Speaker 4: Don't don't put them under for it. I respect you.

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Speaker 1: You're learning about me. What is your Can we finish

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Speaker 1: out the top five fears?

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Speaker 11: That's a good question. I don't want to just make

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Speaker 11: stuff up. I think it's been well documented. Like I

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Speaker 11: don't do like sunglasses or umbrellas, like, so those aren't fears.

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Speaker 11: Where do you stand on spiders? Let's talk about this

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Speaker 11: for a second. Tito's fear of snakes came up multiple

1320
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 11: times this spring. He is a big snakes and I

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Speaker 11: get that. I get that he saw a snake like

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Speaker 11: it was the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Yea, heights with heights, pretty good with heights.

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Speaker 1: I've been to some high heights, okay, And you continue

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Speaker 1: to acent.

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Speaker 3: Man, can't be afraid of heights when you're on the

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Speaker 3: trajectory at Charlie, what were your what was your takeaway?

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Speaker 1: Has everyone's got to take on.

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Speaker 11: The Joey Voda is a really cool guy man. Joey

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01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 11: Voda is a really smart guy. Joey Voda is a

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Speaker 11: really thoughtful guy, like, oh, I mean this is per

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Speaker 11: like it's always personal, Like Joey has asked me more

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 11: about me and my story in my background than any

1334
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 11: other player I've covered. Like he cares and he's that thoughtful,

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Speaker 11: the thought and the detail that went into the clock

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Speaker 11: and what it represents and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so cool.

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Speaker 11: It's so cool, and it's it's personal and it's vado

1339
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Speaker 11: and I I enjoy looking at it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a.

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Speaker 11: Photo guy, like now that we're learning about me, we're

1342
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Speaker 11: into that part of the show. Like I'm not a

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01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 11: big like, hey, I'm at this spot, let's take a

1344
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 11: photo type of Cherson.

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Speaker 1: I just am more of a living the moment type guy.

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I like that. But it has become the photo spot.

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Speaker 3: So you've never been like the concert goer pull your

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: phone out in video while the concert going on.

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: That is something that really upsets me.

1350
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 11: But now there have been a few group settings in

1351
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 11: different places where I've because of that, ended up as

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 11: a photo taker and that.

1353
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: Never sure do you have a favorite concert, not a.

1354
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 11: Concert specifically, just a photo taker at different events. A

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 11: favorite concert I've been to. I haven't been to a lot.

1356
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 11: I did go to Taylor Swift. Wow, that was very good. Okay, man,

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Speaker 11: I think that's probably something I'd like to do more

1358
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Speaker 11: of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't do okay much.

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Speaker 3: I do have to ask before we let you go

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Speaker 3: as a fan, what do you make of the higher

1362
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: for UC men's basketball.

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Speaker 11: I just see so clearly with Jared Calhoun an understanding

1364
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 11: of exactly what he wants the program to look like

1365
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 11: like he was talking about a subtle adjustment he made

1366
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 11: with the types of transfers and the tools and traits

1367
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 11: he looked for and transfers, a shift he made heading

1368
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 11: into this year.

1369
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: To improve you top states defense.

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01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 11: Like the tinkers you make in March and how that

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01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 11: translates in the portal, how that translates the following march

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 11: in the regular.

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: That's high level stuff.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: He just seems so smart.

1376
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 11: And then the ever curter quote about Lebron James was

1377
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 11: the best quote that I've ever seen.

1378
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: Pretty good.

1379
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's a pretty high standard.

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm sold. So you'll be back in attendance. I never

1381
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: left you and your dad fifth Arena. He never left.

1382
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: He never waivered Austin. No, he's never never, don for

1383
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: a moment for a second, I said, Now we go

1384
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: to the Xavier games too.

1385
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: I hope that's okay. Well, he's a ball knower. That's right,

1386
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: that's right. Let me ask you this, because you're around

1387
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: both of them, which professional organization between the Bengals and

1388
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: the Reds are closer to a championship?

1389
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: Burrough means a lot?

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 11: Okay, man, I have a lot of questions about this

1391
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 11: offseason and specifically like what I mean, We've covered all

1392
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 11: of this in terms of linebacker and now Pitt Flack

1393
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 11: as much as you are. But I think because of

1394
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 11: all the questions we have, what doesn't get discussed enough

1395
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 11: is I think this is still the best offense.

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01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: Lastly, and I astain will get one after this. There

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: are there are the thoughts and I do you have

1399
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: a lockout after this season?

1400
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: In Major League Baseball?

1401
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: What constitutes as a success this year as we get

1402
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth season underway, Because if you look

1403
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: at Vegas, there's not a lot of people that are

1404
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: predicting this team to be over five hundred with the

1405
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: momentum that they need to create coming off last year

1406
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 3: and Ellie and his deal and when that's expiring in

1407
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: the lockout looming, what constitutes has a success this season?

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 11: Because of the star power and the heavy, heavy favorites

1409
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 11: at the top of the National League, you could end

1410
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 11: up in a first round series again against the Dodgers

1411
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 11: against the Mets. So you know, if the Reds win

1412
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 11: eighty eight games and go up against the Mets and

1413
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 11: lose the series, like you could see a path where

1414
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 11: that's acceptable. My line, though, is going to be very simple.

1415
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 11: Win a playoff game, don't get swept. Yeah, I mean

1416
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 11: it's a three game series. Take them to game three.

1417
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 11: Give a team like that all they can handle. Or

1418
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 11: if you do get one of the smaller market teams,

1419
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 11: the Brewers, maybe even the Cubs because they're in a

1420
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 11: slightly lower tier like then that's a series you have

1421
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 11: to win. But you have to play good playoff baseball

1422
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 11: and see if the Chips fall.

1423
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: Do you have a prediction for the World Series matchup?

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 11: He thought a second about this, and I'll come up

1425
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 11: with something right now.

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: I think the Yankees are really good man, and I

1427
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: think the even though Aaron Judge is on pace for

1428
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred strikeouts.

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 11: It's funny because I was having a conversation with the

1430
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 11: Reds player last September and we're talking about Aaron Judge,

1431
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 11: and I mean, I said great things.

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01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 1: He's great.

1433
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 11: I had to circle back with that player and said, hey, man,

1434
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 11: I just looked at a few things like it turns

1435
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 11: out judges like twice as good as.

1436
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: I was giving him credit for.

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01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 11: I just want to make sure like I'm appreciating how

1438
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 11: great a judges in the National League.

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick the Dodgers. That's no fun.

1440
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: I'll pick the Mets. I think the Mets are really good. Okay,

1441
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: fair enough. Thank you, Charlie. Charlie, you're the best man. Yeah,

1442
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: thanks so much.

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: Charlie's gonna go visit his photo on the wall that

1444
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 4: we have out here that he didn't know existed.

1445
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: Charlie's photo is on the wall.

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: For an example of that being a good thing, that

1447
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: great thing that I follow along or do follow along.

1448
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 3: It's the easiest way to keep up with everything he

1449
01:06:59,480 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: got going on.

1450
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 11: Charlie shockboard on subtack on Fox nineteen and then I

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01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 11: hope you guys are listening to power Stacks. I've had

1452
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 11: a blast with that show with brig ee'sin slaw.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, so awesome stuff. Charlie, thanks so much for joining us.

1454
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your off day and we'll talk

1455
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: again next week.

1456
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: Great seeing you, guys.

1457
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 3: That's Charlie Goldsmith. This is since he three to sixty.

1458
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: Your talkbacks come next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

1459
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: Matt Rogers Bowen Yang Here, it's that time for talkbacks.

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 14: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin and tone.

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Speaker 1: Please keep it clean and don't be mean. And a sprinkle, sprinkle,

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: drip drip.

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 14: It's our favorite tarter sincy three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 14: play those.

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Speaker 5: Talkbacks on your screen and please try out to cybertag.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go. The Friday edition of your

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Speaker 3: Talkback starts now.

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Speaker 15: Hey guys, yesterday I was listening to seven hundred leading

1470
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 15: up to the game, and I know it's a big

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 15: for you and to get ad revenue, and I know

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01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 15: you guys gotta.

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 16: Keep your nut, you know, keep your nut.

1474
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 15: But I timed out how long the show was from

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 15: ten to eleven, and Mo and Sloan werelling on for

1476
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 15: sixteen minutes out of the full hour.

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 13: That's just wild.

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally get it, and you are not alone. Yeah,

1479
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 4: we apologize for that.

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, I know this ain't seven hundred wow, But

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01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 17: do you think Red's attendance will be affected by kind

1482
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 17: of the social unrest that's going on downtown that people

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 17: that don't live in the city area might see this

1484
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 17: stuff and say, you know what, I'm just gonna watch

1485
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 17: the game on TV.

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 17: It's a shame because I want the ballpark full, but

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 17: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's frustrated.

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: I think if you're I think if you're winning games,

1491
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: people are gonna come out to the ballpark. I think

1492
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 3: it's as simple as that. Outside of that, it probably

1493
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: is a question for down the hall.

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's people that do feel that way that

1495
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: are going to be like, listen, that's too big of

1496
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 4: a risk for me. I'm uncomfortable doing dealing with that,

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 4: And I don't blame you. I do think that the

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 4: Reds are gonna have to get involved. I think the

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 4: Reds are gonna have to to do something to work

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 4: with whoever to make fans feel safe coming to games.

1501
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how you do that. I do

1502
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 4: think yesterday is kind of a concoction of spring break

1503
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 4: and free transit and a concert and a game and

1504
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 4: a beautiful weather day and everybody being off school and

1505
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 4: all this. I think that I'm not saying it's an

1506
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 4: outlier because there have been issues in the past, a

1507
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: lot going on, you but yeah, I don't know that

1508
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 4: I would be fearful, Like I'm not afraid to go

1509
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 4: back down there to another game based off what I saw,

1510
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 4: But I'm sure there are other people that My biggest

1511
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: question is what is the Reds roll in that not

1512
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 4: only to help themselves get people into the ballpark, but

1513
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 4: also to help their business partners along the banks to

1514
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 4: increase their you know, value as well.

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, two takeaways. It's great, thanks Greg. That was it.

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01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 18: He'll try again here, I think, Yeah, it's Greg. Two

1517
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 18: takeaways from the game yesterday. I think it took Crochet

1518
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 18: maybe five pitches to dispose of our top three in

1519
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 18: the first inning.

1520
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a minute and a half. No patience.

1521
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 18: But the real highlight obviously was Sal Stewart, And from

1522
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 18: where my daughter and I were sitting after he got

1523
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 18: that double, we could literally hear him out at second base,

1524
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 18: hollering into the dug out, Hey let's go.

1525
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: In other words, the man trying to fire the team.

1526
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot about salth Stewart. I already liked. He's

1527
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: a ball of energy.

1528
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 13: This is multime, Houston, Ouity Mike, and I want to

1529
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 13: hear my voice on the radio.

1530
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: Serious question.

1531
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 13: When you see a scrub like Swarsby get paid millions

1532
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 13: and millions of dollars, doesn't eat you up inside you?

1533
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 13: My friend, were ten times the collegiate quarterback back guy

1534
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 13: is speaking of scrubs.

1535
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 10: This is just in.

1536
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 13: The Reds aren't very good yesterday, and when I heard

1537
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 13: Moeger say eighty three wins or more, I was like, oh,

1538
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 13: they're done and kiss of death.

1539
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: I I'm happy that guys can make money playing football.

1540
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,879
Speaker 19: That happy Friday, everybody man, Reds wasted a nice outing yesterday.

1541
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 19: But Andrew Hey, yeah, but south Stewart came to play.

1542
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 19: Everybody else not so much. Had a great time with

1543
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 19: you guys. And oo yesterday a lot of last must

1544
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 19: day of therapy. Go's seen some bet talkbackers there and

1545
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 19: now I'm ad quemi. I'm going to shin it back

1546
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 19: this year to go to twenty in Austin where they

1547
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 19: can do photo and Nana Shish and break down on

1548
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 19: that big, beautiful matchful time Peach outside.

1549
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: Of credit to back and Bob Pot Mary Quimby need

1550
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: to help. Is what's going on downtown? Very good to

1551
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: see you yesterday.

1552
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, did did Kevin win one of the prize? Did

1553
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 4: he got the Sasar Geronimo? I believe so, Yeah, that's

1554
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: a good day for Kevin.

1555
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: Hey, fella's back at the double DApp here.

1556
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 19: You know, I was thinking yesterday Austin, which is usually

1557
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 19: danger saying if the station doesn't like you saying naturally

1558
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 19: moist in the future, you can always just turn around

1559
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 19: and say I'm naturally not dry.

1560
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything from the station now.

1561
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes I would just see how much we can. Yeah,

1562
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 4: that would require them listening to us.

1563
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 20: Hey, I want to talk about something that's kind of unacceptable.

1564
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 20: You know when CBS or TBS, you know, with this

1565
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 20: march madness, every person that's running that broadcast, it's a professional,

1566
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 20: and they probably got thirty or fifty people wanting to.

1567
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: Fill their spot.

1568
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 20: Whoever is awarding points to the wrong team and it

1569
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 20: takes five seconds to straighten it out. I don't understand.

1570
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 4: Unprofessional people make mistakes. Ye I don't know exactly what

1571
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 4: he's referring to, do you know, I don't, I know.

1572
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: Just mistakes, fellas.

1573
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 21: But yesterday time at the never realized my night was

1574
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 21: on an end. But watching a bunch of europe body

1575
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 21: Houston last night, like the tired team takes the shack

1576
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 21: breaking half, Rick Metino, you know what to do. Throw

1577
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 21: on the white suits tonight. Yes, excited for tomorrow with

1578
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 21: kids Opening Days one of my favorite days of the year,

1579
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 21: and looking forward to Red Always do a great job,

1580
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 21: have a great day.

1581
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the kids Opening Day, and uh I will

1582
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 3: be rooting for the Johnnies tonight.

1583
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 14: Hello, this is Ronnie Rigg repping DC here in Rainy, Wet, Daddy,

1584
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 14: and wail. Those three hits by Sal Stewart were great,

1585
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 14: but they were nothing compared to the cannonball hit his

1586
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 14: wrist took in the field. That dude is tougher than

1587
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 14: Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt.

1588
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 3: Comebine, come on.

1589
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: I just wanted to replay again during the break. I

1590
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 4: don't know how that thing is not broken. Praise God,

1591
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 4: Praise whoever you praised.

1592
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 22: Everybody from the past couple of years, who was barking

1593
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 22: about maybe moving Ellie to center field.

1594
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: Was watching that Pirates Mets game yesterday. What a disaster. Yeah,

1595
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: he was awful.

1596
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 4: He's been awful ever since they moved him out there,

1597
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 4: like he just needs to play first base.

1598
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: So, mister Trump, break down the game for us. What

1599
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: what did you see yesterday?

1600
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,480
Speaker 7: I saw.

1601
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: Choke getting like a dog.

1602
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 4: I call him and he struck out like a absolute

1603
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 4: little win.

1604
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: He could not.

1605
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm reading ahead. We're just gonna move on from that.

1606
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 4: You do got you do have the wrong station for that.

1607
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 7: Mmm?

1608
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,440
Speaker 3: What else? Okay?

1609
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: Thank you? Are you well?

1610
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 10: I see Trees of Greens comes off and swill Lack

1611
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 10: Huggy Bear was there.

1612
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 23: So I'm kind of like Jack and I think to myself,

1613
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 23: we are so back.

1614
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, we're back, Louise double dipping'.

1615
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 10: Well, I see Trees of Greens. Fights at the bank.

1616
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 10: I'll gave us a clock. Did we have us? Say thanks?

1617
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 23: And I think to myself, there's a fence, stills tanks.

1618
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1619
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 13: Quick doubled the Mars game as a must watch it

1620
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 13: for no other reason than it's the fact that C

1621
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 13: D Buckner's first game behind Home.

1622
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: Place with as. I was thinking about it, really really good.

1623
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 4: I was thinking about that yesterday when I saw that

1624
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 4: he was in first base umpire, I was like, good lord,

1625
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 4: we are.

1626
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: Gonna have CB.

1627
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 4: Wait if you remember he had three straight pitches or

1628
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 4: three pitches in one inning overturned. Not only he is

1629
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 4: the worst umpire in baseball CB not only.

1630
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 12: Day after Opening Day, Happy Friday. Really wanted to buy

1631
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 12: you guys in ice cold, natty moist yesterday, but I

1632
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 12: could not make my way through the crowded smoke Justice.

1633
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 12: I was like a sardine in a sardine can great

1634
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 12: show though, as far as the game itself, impressed by

1635
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 12: Abbott's first outing six scoreless, by Tyler Stevenson's elite strike

1636
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 12: zone knowledge. Winning those two ABS challenges in a row

1637
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 12: didn't make a differerence in the game. But you're not

1638
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 12: going to go against Garrett Crochet every time, so I'm

1639
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 12: not worried.

1640
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said yeah.

1641
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 22: I'm currently in talks with the Howard Miller clock Company.

1642
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 22: They're really close to sponsoring most show at three o'clock

1643
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 22: Monday through Friday. Has anyone seen Austin Is he back

1644
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 22: from the bathroom. Yet, hey, look, Garrett Crochet man, when

1645
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 22: you come out there and you three pitch first in

1646
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 22: and you kind of knew the writing was on the wall.

1647
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 22: But the Reds spoiled their opportunities. It's okay, it's only

1648
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 22: game one, plenty more ball to play.

1649
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: Come on, we got more baseball.

1650
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Reds strategy was pretty obvious,

1651
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 4: Like they were going to attack early incounts against Garrett

1652
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 4: Crochet and they've made some good contact, they hit it

1653
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: at guys, and then after that they stopped making contact.

1654
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 4: I think that the Red Sox had a good adjustment too,

1655
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 4: is like later Incounts had breaking pitches on the inside

1656
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 4: part of the plate that the Reds really struggled with.

1657
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 24: Austin, thanks for the shout on that potential signing for

1658
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 24: the basketball tournament. Could you please it's just just be

1659
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 24: my eye in the sky flying on the wall. Make

1660
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 24: sure Tony's not doing any tampering, no, sure that you know,

1661
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 24: you know, keep an eye.

1662
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: On and please tell me that it's not real.

1663
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 24: He didn't actually reach out to this individual to play,

1664
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 24: did he?

1665
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 25: Just?

1666
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: Thank well, Tony is a snake, so that doesn't surprise me.

1667
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: The way you can just see for a Memorial Day

1668
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 3: what happens.

1669
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 26: Hey, it's Jim from Anderson, Happy Friday. How many years

1670
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 26: do you think until the automatic ball strike system is

1671
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 26: full time?

1672
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 27: At the plate?

1673
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 26: I'm a little torn seeing some calls overturn to their

1674
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 26: challenge and then other calls obviously go and checked because

1675
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 26: it's just part of the game flow. But if the

1676
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 26: idea is to get the calls right, wouldn't you think

1677
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 26: it makes sense just implement that system. Yeah, obviously I'm

1678
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 26: lovely behind the plate. Ump adds a little bit of theatrics,

1679
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 26: but kind of a background actor at this point.

1680
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder.

1681
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 4: I do wonder about that, especially if technology continues to

1682
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 4: advance to the point where it is that easy to

1683
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: determine whether it's a ball or a strike. I wonder

1684
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 4: when or if that will ever be on the plate.

1685
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 4: But I do think it could become so popular the

1686
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 4: way it is right now, and the strategy and the

1687
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 4: challenges and the important pitches in the biggest moments, that

1688
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 4: it could be something that baseball can really bottle into

1689
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 4: some excitement into the game that would deter them from

1690
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 4: going to that sooner rather than later.

1691
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 28: Hey, Tony and Audie.

1692
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: It's bake.

1693
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 28: What love the Vado clock, and wonder if you've heard

1694
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 28: anything about a Joey Vado day at the ballpark and

1695
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,879
Speaker 28: the city for that matter, wanted to suggest the perfect

1696
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 28: tribute gift for him would be all painted red, the

1697
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 28: same color as the clock, with a white nineteen on

1698
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 28: the side at the crosswalk right in front of the

1699
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 28: stadium Joey Vodo walk lights.

1700
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, the Joey Vodo walkway type thing. I

1701
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 4: haven't heard anything about that. I would guess that Joey

1702
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 4: does not want anything like that, but I do think

1703
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 4: that when his day comes as a Reds Hall of

1704
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: Famer dough there, Yeah, I do.

1705
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: I get two or three bobble head days out of

1706
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: that for the year.

1707
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 4: Well, I do think the Reds are appreciative of Joey

1708
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 4: and the fact that like he worked with Phil and

1709
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 4: everybody to get that clock and make that thing happen.

1710
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 4: And he said that's been in the works for like

1711
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 4: three years. Yeah, tells me they have a good relationship,

1712
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 4: even though things kind of were weird at the end.

1713
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 16: But you know, the game yesterday, whatever, it's one game.

1714
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 16: There's one hundred and sixty two baseball games. Ye know,

1715
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 16: but but but the thing that is worrying people is

1716
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 16: that game looked your really similar to games last year.

1717
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 16: It looked almost identical. And for the life of me,

1718
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,799
Speaker 16: I cannot figure out why this team is building itself

1719
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 16: like a defensive pitching team when you play in the

1720
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 16: smallest ballpark in the league. It's backwards. I don't get it.

1721
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 29: It's fair, Hey, Charlie, go ahead and make that that

1722
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 29: seapal tattoo, because that itdn't never happened, just like hell

1723
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 29: isn't freezing over, and Tony Pike is sitting in the

1724
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 29: second level of a sporting event.

1725
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: Gosh, all this time, he's so good, all this time

1726
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 4: to just come in and just I mean, now, that's

1727
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 4: ninety eight on the black after months right there.

1728
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: Well, if it was ninety eight on the block, he

1729
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 3: would miss the call as an umpire, I.

1730
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: Know that that's that's struck him out.

1731
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: Looking abs system is not good for the voice of

1732
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 3: the common Xavier fan.

1733
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 30: Peddy Austin Jos in the battle. I guess in fact,

1734
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 30: spring training does not matter. Abbot looked great. They should

1735
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 30: have kept him in for a seventh I believe, and

1736
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 30: mcclaim looks like McLean George.

1737
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you.

1738
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 31: The donut man, Abbot and Crochet was giding rep in

1739
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 31: the city. I coming on this it's very hot zone

1740
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 31: and what up, Tony?

1741
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: What man?

1742
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 31: I was walking around my job show, Bolden dressed out

1743
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 31: and all Red said. My little rid had my that

1744
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 31: dude beatp shirt on. You know what I'm saying, showing

1745
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 31: like this is how we get down in my city. Sun, Yo,

1746
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 31: we we get down. That's a holiday. I shouldn't even

1747
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 31: be at work. Got treated to just that performance, no offense,

1748
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 31: just take two out of three. I'm still optimistic, but

1749
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 31: I'm a little worried.

1750
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

1751
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: Now you saw the Ronnie Rohn repp to b Phil.

1752
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 3: You saw someone yesterday repping a Todd coffee jersey?

1753
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: Did Yeah?

1754
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 3: I saw a jersey that had it was a city

1755
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 3: Connect and it had HARAMBEI sixty nine on it. Respect

1756
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 3: all right, I don't even know if that would be harambe.

1757
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 18: Vyella springs whatever.

1758
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 4: Believable.

1759
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 18: Hanging out with you fellas yesterday, terrific vibes, perfect weather.

1760
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 10: My biggest takeaway from yesterday.

1761
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Reds lost.

1762
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,520
Speaker 1: Whatever they do that every year. I don't think my biggest.

1763
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 10: Takeaway smoke Justice unbelievable.

1764
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean about it, you know how good it

1765
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 17: is and whatnot.

1766
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: I had that two meat uh smoked plate. I think

1767
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 3: I had the halpin of sausage, cheddar sausage and the turkey.

1768
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what you mean good? Come on man,

1769
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: come on, yeah, come on. I tried something new yesterday

1770
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 4: for the first time. I tried the Quesadia with the chicken.

1771
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I could have eaten five of those things.

1772
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: What's up, guys?

1773
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,520
Speaker 4: Super excited to say I hit the fifty to fifty Jackpine.

1774
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 25: Oh my gosh is what I'd say if I would

1775
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,799
Speaker 25: have hit thee Oh.

1776
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: Makes sense you have.

1777
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of the fifty to fifty, I

1778
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 4: think there is a game coming up this summer in

1779
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 4: which I will be the air quotes celebrity split the

1780
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 4: pot Cellar Wow for the.

1781
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty. I think that's coming up in May.

1782
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: Uh so we'll keep you updated.

1783
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 20: What I'm talking about is like if Irawa scored to points,

1784
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 20: they awarded two points to the other team on the

1785
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 20: screen and they're like go, and then they changed it

1786
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 20: over to Iowa.

1787
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I got you. Yeah, all right, this is the

1788
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 3: last one. All right, what are we doing here? Just

1789
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 3: touch and go when we come back. How are we

1790
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: doing this if we have Tommy g our three, yeah,

1791
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: we are going to do a touching that touch and

1792
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,520
Speaker 3: go next. Then Tom gallaerder on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1793
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: Sports Station.

1794
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

1795
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1796
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 3: Welcome back our number three, ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1797
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 3: We are underway. Let's talk some FC Cincinnati the Orangine Blue.

1798
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: We do so with the voice of FC Cincinnati. Tom

1799
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 3: Gallader joins us right now, as he does on most Fridays,

1800
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: unless Kentuck Key Basketball on Friday or there's a parade happening.

1801
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 3: Most of the time, we get a chance to talk

1802
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 3: to Tommy on Fridays, and we do so right now. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,

1803
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 3: what's going on?

1804
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 7: Tony, Tony, Tony, Happy Friday. Good to be with you,

1805
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 7: you know, to fefa break weekend. But I'm not mailing

1806
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 7: it in. I'm not in any parade. I've never been

1807
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 7: invited to be a Grand Marshall. So I'm just glad

1808
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 7: that Austin and I are still allowed to be in

1809
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 7: your presence of as grand as you are these days.

1810
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 7: But congratulations and uh yeah, here we are. I'm glad

1811
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 7: to chat with you guys.

1812
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: FIFA break week. How did you fill your time?

1813
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 14: Oh?

1814
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 7: Busy, busy with work and uh, you know, prep for

1815
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 7: what will be you know, not as congestive of a

1816
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 7: month of April as we would have hoped, but uh still,

1817
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 7: you know, you get into some midweek play in Major

1818
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 7: leagu soccer in April, so got to get ahead, get ready.

1819
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: For all of that.

1820
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 7: And then uh, you know, my older son high school

1821
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 7: baseball cranking up, so there'll be plenty of plenty of

1822
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 7: other activities to keep me out of trouble over the

1823
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 7: next few days before we get out to New York

1824
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 7: on the next weekend.

1825
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: A needed win and a shorthanded win against Montreal. What

1826
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: happened previously for this team the six to one loss

1827
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: at the hands of New England and then the five

1828
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: to one loss to t Grays but also losing the

1829
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 3: aggregate because of that four goal differential, Did it feel

1830
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 3: at all like the team ahead of Montreal was was

1831
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 3: wavering a little bit from a confidence standpoint or was

1832
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 3: this just kind of heads down, continue to get back

1833
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: to work.

1834
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know that that confidence wavering at that point,

1835
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 7: but certainly frustrations And I think that's through the whole organization,

1836
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 7: whether you're you know, a staff member, a coach, a player, broadcaster,

1837
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 7: like everybody, nobody wants to see, you know, back to

1838
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 7: back lowout losses, especially in the way that it happened,

1839
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 7: and you know, the disappointment of being eliminated from Champions

1840
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 7: Cup when you went down to Mexico with the three

1841
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 7: no advantage. But you know, I felt pretty good that,

1842
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 7: you know, Pat Noonon has been a pretty steady hand

1843
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 7: for four plus years as the head coach, and that

1844
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 7: he'd be able to prepare this team properly, get them

1845
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 7: ready for that Montreal game, and you know, find a

1846
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 7: way for a result. But Kevin and I talked about

1847
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 7: in the pregame, you know, in many ways it felt

1848
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 7: like a must win games because they needed a result,

1849
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 7: They needed to go into the break feeling better about

1850
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 7: the situation. If they lost to Montreal, it certainly would

1851
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 7: have felt pretty bad. At the end of the world.

1852
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 7: Is the season over No, because the season so long

1853
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 7: and it's still, you know, so early that Okay, you

1854
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 7: get three points here, you're right back in the mixer

1855
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 7: and if you're off, it doesn't feel great, but you're

1856
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,440
Speaker 7: not out of contention by any stretch of the imagination.

1857
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 7: You just lost an opportunity to gain some point. So

1858
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 7: I think that the team responded in the way that

1859
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 7: they would have wanted, albeit in a in a very

1860
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,919
Speaker 7: unexpected and unorthodox fashion to get three points.

1861
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I want to get to the Montreal match in just

1862
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 3: a second. That the previous matches that you just discussed,

1863
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 3: there is there any particular things that that Pat Noonan

1864
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 3: can point to as to where it went wrong or

1865
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 3: was it just kind of things snowballed over the course

1866
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 3: of those few matches.

1867
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 31: Yeah.

1868
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 7: I asked him about that, you know, going into the

1869
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 7: Montreal game, and he said, look, when you lose five

1870
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 7: to one or six one, like, so many things go wrong.

1871
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 7: But the common theme in those two games was that

1872
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 7: the box defending was not good enough. You know, there

1873
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 7: was opportunities on corner kick, set pieces, crosses where guys

1874
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 7: should have been picked up, and goals were conceded when

1875
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 7: they probably shouldn't have been and there were little mistakes,

1876
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 7: you know, specifically in the T Grace game. You know

1877
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 7: the T Gray shots that they scored on their goals.

1878
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 7: You know, many of them were highlight, real class goals.

1879
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 7: There are many goalkeepers who are getting to those balls.

1880
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 7: So there was no fault of Romans.

1881
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: But it was the.

1882
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 7: Little details or the passes or the plays that led

1883
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 7: to the T Grace possession or opened up a window

1884
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 7: for T Grace to be able to make the pass

1885
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 7: that led to the goal. And I think those are

1886
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,480
Speaker 7: the biggest frustrations for patn in those two losses.

1887
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: Now you come off the multiple losses and you come

1888
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 3: back to TQL Stadium and here comes Montreal And I

1889
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 3: credit FC Cincinnati on many accounts, one because they score

1890
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 3: back to back shorthanded goals in the last few minutes

1891
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: of the match to get a win. But more importantly

1892
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 3: than that, here's a team who had been skidding over

1893
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 3: the last couple and then boom, in the sixth minute,

1894
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 3: you're already down one nothing and you have that thought

1895
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: of oh boy, here we go again.

1896
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: Can it get worse?

1897
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 3: The team rallied and again a couple shorthanded goals are

1898
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 3: not easy to come by. Talk a little bit about

1899
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 3: the resolve against Montreal to get those three points that

1900
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: you thought this team again desperately needed early on in

1901
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: the season. Yeah.

1902
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 7: I would say it's probably one of the grittiest wins

1903
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 7: we've seen from this group in a long time, because

1904
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 7: they've got to face long odds in finding a way

1905
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 7: to get anything out of the game. Smiles. Robinson is

1906
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 7: set off. You're feeling like the best case scenario is

1907
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 7: that maybe you can nick a goal and get a

1908
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 7: point and you're not gonna feel great about it. But

1909
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 7: considering playing thirty minutes down the man, you probably would

1910
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 7: have been like, Okay, didn't go as we wanted today,

1911
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 7: but not a completely lost situation, especially being down a man.

1912
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, certainly there was some tense moment and

1913
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 7: and probably a lot of stomachs dropped from Montreal Sports

1914
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 7: six minutes in to go up, But the result was

1915
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 7: there throughout the mats, even even when it was even

1916
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 7: twice coming back. You know, down one nail, one one,

1917
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 7: down two nail, then then to two, you know, or

1918
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 7: to one cent and then to make it to too,

1919
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 7: you know, and then you go down three two and

1920
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 7: miles of cent off or you go to them, you know,

1921
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 7: miles cent off. The Tonally kick makes it three to two,

1922
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 7: and you really feel like you're in a bad way.

1923
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 7: But uh, you know, Katt Nowton called a team over

1924
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 7: and I forget which player it was who said that,

1925
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 7: you know, kind of give them pep talk, and they

1926
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 7: came out of that pep talk fired up and with

1927
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 7: a little bit of extra energy and able to dig deep.

1928
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 7: And remember this team was playing for a fifth time

1929
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 7: in fifteen days, and there were some guys out there

1930
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 7: who had a lot of minutes on their legs in

1931
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 7: the final half hour of that match and had to

1932
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 7: muster everything they had to get through it. And you

1933
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 7: get to go to make it three to three, and

1934
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, it's like, okay, game on toal

1935
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 7: Barlow just tied this game, and there's still enough time

1936
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 7: left and Tim Dallius creating chances, and I think they

1937
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 7: felt confident. I don't think they felt that they were

1938
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 7: down a man. And sure that's an unexpected, you know,

1939
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 7: gritty win, and I think I hope certainly, But I

1940
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 7: think it's the type of game that you point to

1941
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 7: as we have these conversations every Friday that in September

1942
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 7: October when this team's in a position in an Eastern

1943
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 7: conference and setting themselves up for the postseason. That we

1944
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 7: made point to the turning point of the season was

1945
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 7: that game in March when they came from behind three

1946
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 7: times against Montreal and won a game when they played

1947
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 7: the last thirty minutes down a man.

1948
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 3: Is it is it one of those moments because you

1949
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 3: mentioned five matches in fifteen days. Is it one of

1950
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 3: those moments where you captured so much that you hoped

1951
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: there would be another game coming up? Or is it

1952
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 3: good to go into a little bit of a break

1953
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 3: with that positive momentum. How do you view rest versus man,

1954
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 3: let's get back out there because we feel really good

1955
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: about where we're at.

1956
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 7: You know, that's always a tough one. And I think,

1957
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,799
Speaker 7: considering the circumstances and the long strets that had led

1958
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 7: up to that moment again, the five games and fifteen days,

1959
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 7: that the team needed a breather and a break, And

1960
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 7: you know, I think, yeah, certainly, when you win, you

1961
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 7: want to get back to it right and you're feeling good.

1962
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 7: But Romans banged up a little bit, sadly has missed

1963
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 7: national team camp. You know, opportunity to make the World Cup,

1964
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 7: and it's not with the US this week. So I

1965
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 7: think in the big picture of everything, that stepping back

1966
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 7: and getting everybody at deep breath and a chance to

1967
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 7: get their legs back going into April, when you'll have

1968
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 7: a midweek game coming up towards the second half of

1969
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 7: the month at New York, that it lines up pretty

1970
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 7: well to okay, because listen, they didn't go out and

1971
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 7: they didn't beat Montreal four nail either, So it's not

1972
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 7: like that game was perfect. It was certainly flaws, but

1973
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 7: you found a way to get a win. So I

1974
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 7: think now you use these two weeks, all right, what

1975
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 7: went wrong in March, we'll put fix and be ready

1976
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 7: for April to make sure we're starting on the right foot,

1977
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 7: going to take on a New York Red Bull as

1978
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 7: a team that's struggled so far this year, get a

1979
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 7: result on the road there, and set yourself up to

1980
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 7: start moving up to the Eastern Conference tables. So, in

1981
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 7: my opinion, I think the Brake failed at a great spot.

1982
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 3: How much about this you've You've made mention to it,

1983
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 3: and you we know if we look at the schedule,

1984
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 3: how long of a season this is for for the MLS,

1985
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 3: and there is so much still ahead of this team.

1986
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 3: And you know, you you hear anytime a sports team

1987
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 3: is struggling, you hear the whispers out there, and and

1988
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 3: is it time to make a change or is it

1989
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 3: time to hit the panic button? In an MLS season?

1990
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 3: How important is it to use that term? We've seen

1991
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 3: it a lot of just relax, there's a long way

1992
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 3: to go.

1993
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: R E L A X. We've talked about this before

1994
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: for sure.

1995
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 3: How important is that for fans and players alike to

1996
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: understand that this is a marathon right now?

1997
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: The season? Yeah?

1998
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 7: How many fans walked out in Major League Baseball ballparks yesterday?

1999
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 7: I mean, whether I had to be what thirteen fourteen

2000
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 7: games yesterday? Ye walked out? You know, half those fan

2001
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 7: bases walked out or watching out TV saying, oh Seavens

2002
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 7: though Seedons loss, it's game one of one hundred and

2003
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 7: sixty two. I'm sure the Mariners aren't packing it in

2004
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 7: last night, you know, after losing to the Guardians in

2005
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 7: game one of one hundred and sixty two. And look

2006
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 7: it's not one hundred sixty two. Amazing soccer, but it's

2007
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 7: still thirty four so you can start one and three

2008
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 7: and still finish and it's top three of the Eastern

2009
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 7: Conference and jet yourself up for great success in the postseason.

2010
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 7: So I think that, yeah, relax is a good way

2011
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 7: to put it, you know, deep breast, And you got

2012
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 7: to remember that this team has kill a long way

2013
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 7: since the first three years in the league when when

2014
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 7: there was mighty struggles, and the pat is taking this

2015
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 7: team to four straight playoff appearances, including an Eastern Conference final.

2016
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 7: He's won a lot of games, you know, more games

2017
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 7: than most coaches have over the last five years. So

2018
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 7: I think that perspective is is really really important. And

2019
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 7: you know, you can't hit the panic button. There other

2020
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 7: things to fix. Absolutely this thing's to fix in all

2021
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 7: our lives, and and that that's important to remember as well.

2022
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that you know, they'll continue to build.

2023
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 7: Chris Albright will continue to assess the roster and the

2024
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 7: flexibility that he has or doesn't have to improve the roster,

2025
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 7: and the summer window will probably prove that there are

2026
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 7: opportunities to get better, and f she Cincinnati will assess

2027
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 7: what they need to get better. So now I think

2028
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 7: that you're absolutely right, you can't fly off the handles

2029
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 7: after three or four games. You know, certainly mention League Baseball,

2030
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 7: certainly in Major League soccer a little different to be

2031
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 7: one and three, one at four in the NFL, but

2032
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 7: still even get it together after that. So you know,

2033
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 7: that's that's a seventeen game season. This is a thirty

2034
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 7: four game season twice as much. You know, there's some

2035
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 7: teams that have started really hot, but some things are

2036
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 7: gonna even out, and iffccintanny can continue to and prove

2037
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 7: their play, they're gonna be right in the mix for

2038
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 7: the same things they've been competing for the last four years.

2039
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Lastly, and and we've seen as well when it gets

2040
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, it is about playing your best soccer

2041
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 3: at the right time, and certainly this team has a

2042
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 3: lot of time to get to that get hot at

2043
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 3: the right time, but the season comes in ways. In

2044
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 3: this short term, is there a thing or two that

2045
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: you could point to that, okay, in this mini break

2046
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 3: here before taking on the the Red Bulls on April fourth,

2047
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 3: that this team needs to focus on getting better at

2048
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: what would that look like?

2049
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think it's easy to look at

2050
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 7: because of the way the last three games have gone

2051
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 7: giving up fourteen goals, is you know, tightening up defensively.

2052
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 7: I think the pieces are all there, they're just have

2053
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 7: been airs that led to those goals. And then and

2054
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 7: the box defending was four times, so I think that,

2055
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 7: you know, first and foremost, you're kind of pointing towards

2056
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 7: improving the defending because of the first six games, what

2057
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 7: was it, two goals allowed, so that I think that

2058
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 7: was what the biggest contrast start contrast was was oh

2059
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 7: wait a second, this this flipped quickly from being really

2060
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 7: strong team defensively to you know, some some significant breakdowns.

2061
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 7: So I think it starts there. I think we're starting

2062
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 7: to see some of the goals come. A Vander still

2063
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 7: really hasn't contributed that much, so getting a Vander into

2064
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 7: his groove that we know he's capable of will be big.

2065
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 7: But I think starts with the defense. And if the

2066
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 7: defense gets back to playing like they're capable of, then

2067
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:47,520
Speaker 7: this team will be winning games and getting three points regularly.

2068
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Tommy G, you're the best.

2069
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 3: Any big plans for your your your your free weekend here,

2070
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 3: I doubt it is even a free weekend anymore, But

2071
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 3: any big plans for your weekend?

2072
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 7: No it's never Let's see, we have Walnut Hills freshman

2073
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 7: baseball seeing an opener tomorrow at noon. If anybody wants

2074
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 7: to come out check that out against Harrison. Yeah, it's

2075
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 7: not gonna be real warm.

2076
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 14: Uh.

2077
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 7: So they got to see an opener, so that should

2078
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 7: be exciting. And then I think we have some soccer

2079
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 7: games for my younger son, you know, a little bit

2080
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 7: of downtime somewhere in there. I'll find I'll find them.

2081
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 7: But yeah, probably have more than enough project to do

2082
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 7: around the house. If anybody wants to come help me

2083
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 7: clean my garage, that's high in the list.

2084
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: Can I keep anything I find?

2085
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 7: Oh oh yeah, probably, Okay, okay, now show up now.

2086
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 3: On top of this, you mentioned MLB. If you look

2087
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 3: to start the year in the American League, the Seattle

2088
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 3: Mariners have these second highest odds to get back to

2089
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 3: the World Series, and yet the Guardians went on the

2090
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 3: road yesterday and picked up a very impressive win in

2091
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 3: Game one. How'd you feel about your guardian's performance?

2092
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 7: Did you did you catch the young rookie? I did.

2093
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: I did two home runs.

2094
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 7: I mean my twenty four ers he got ordered this morning.

2095
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that at the same time as your

2096
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 3: Shadre Jersey.

2097
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 14: I'm sure.

2098
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 7: Yeah no, now, yeah no, that's uh. I mean, shoot,

2099
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 7: the Guardians haven't brought tough stretch with having to play

2100
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 7: in Seattle then go to the Dodgers for the first

2101
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 7: six games of the season. But yeah, I think good

2102
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 7: end as the last night. You got to feel good

2103
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 7: about how that went.

2104
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: Tommy, You're the best man.

2105
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

2106
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 3: Look forward to catching up guys pleasure again next week.

2107
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: Again.

2108
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 3: F C Cincinnati off this weekend, back on the road

2109
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 3: against the Red Bulls of New York on April fourth.

2110
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again next week, Tommy, Thanks so

2111
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 3: much for your time.

2112
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 7: All right, let's do it, boys, have a great day.

2113
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: Cheers.

2114
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 3: That is Tom Galader for FC Cincinnati, the Voice of

2115
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati. We'll take a break when we come back Austin.

2116
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:48,360
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2117
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2118
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 3: Abbot's performance, Niiclodolo. We'll talk to our guy, Bob Manjean

2119
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2120
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:00,919
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Speaker 1: Tony Pike here for my friends at.

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Speaker 3: three Rolling along ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station with

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to talk blisters with our guy, Bob Man

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01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 3: Jean from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare who's kind

2128
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 3: enough to join us right now?

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01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 1: Bob, how you doing today?

2130
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 25: Turning down here in Jacksonville, whether it's beautiful, you know,

2131
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 25: get to see my grandson be baptized tomorrow. I'm excited.

2132
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 3: I got a couple things before we get into blisters.

2133
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 3: One I saw on the day Jared Calhoun was hired.

2134
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 3: You had a nice picture there on go Bearcatz cozied

2135
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 3: up next to Jared Calhoun. It feels like everyone is

2136
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 3: on board with this coaching hire. And I know you

2137
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 3: haven't had a chance to really sit down with him yet,

2138
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 3: but but does it feel different around the program right

2139
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 3: now with Jared Calhoun?

2140
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: Oh?

2141
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think the difference is, you know, we've hired

2142
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 25: one of our own, and you see alumni, you know,

2143
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 25: I mean, you see alumni myself, So it's always nice

2144
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 25: to see when we bring a coaching with U SEE roots. Plus,

2145
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 25: you know, when he was there, it was a very

2146
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 25: successful time period for U SEE basketball with Bob Huggins

2147
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 25: and his staff. I think Gerald brings a real sense

2148
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 25: of energy of an alumni of somebody who's had good success.

2149
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 25: I think the whole athletic department is pretty excited. I

2150
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 25: think the fan base is really going to be excited,

2151
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 25: you know, when they get to really, you know, have

2152
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 25: an opportunity to interact with him. It'll be an interesting year.

2153
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 3: Now in your travels, did you have a chance at

2154
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 3: all to catch Paul Skins start yesterday for your your buckos,

2155
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: your Pittsburgh Pirates.

2156
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 25: Well, he gave a five earned run, but several of

2157
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 25: those were played opportunities.

2158
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 3: I didn't see the airs. I didn't see an air

2159
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: charge to Neil Cruz.

2160
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 25: No, but they they did not play. They did not

2161
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 25: feel the ball very well. And I was expecting this

2162
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 25: from you because I knew that, you know, even though

2163
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 25: the Reds lost to the Red Sox, you weren't gonna

2164
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 25: let me forget that that the priors gave up five runs.

2165
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Speaker 3: I as a as a Reds fan, I didn't like

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Speaker 3: the idea that Paul Skein's next start after that start

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Speaker 3: will be against the Reds on Wednesday.

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Speaker 25: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he should have a comeback. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the Reds, Bob nick Loodolo starts the season

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Speaker 3: on the injured list for the Cincinnati Reds with a

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01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 3: blister obviously on his throwing hand. For nick Loodolo, it's

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01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 3: not the first time that he's dealt with blisters. It's

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Speaker 3: not the first time he's had to go on the

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Speaker 3: injured list because of blisters. We saw Derek Johnson, the

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Speaker 3: pitching coach, refer to nick Loodolo as just someone who's

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Speaker 3: naturally moist and talking about just constantly swear and how

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Speaker 3: his hands are. So talk me through this process, because

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Speaker 3: I feel like, much like a sense we talk about

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01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 3: turf toe, people don't really understand. It's like, all right,

2181
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 3: at your toe, play through it, You're fine. What about

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01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 3: blisters makes it so difficult for pitchers to do what

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01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 3: they need.

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Speaker 1: To do.

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 25: Obviously, you know, I mean, anybody that's throwing a baseball

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01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 25: knows that, you know, your fingertips control the ball. Trajectory

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01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 25: and the ball stin. So I mean, if you're getting

2189
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 25: blisters on the ends of your fingers and your pitching hand,

2190
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 25: you really lose control of ball stin, so your curves off,

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01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 25: your sinkers off. And again that's a problem. And there

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01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 25: are people who we call natural sweaters, and if the

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Speaker 25: pitching coach wants to call that moisture or whatever, it's fine.

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01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 25: But I'm an old school trainer, and the bottom line

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01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 25: is you've got people to sweat a lot. And you

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01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 25: see kids who cramp a lot, Well, those crampers are

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01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 25: also usually heavy sweaters. So I mean, again, pitchers have

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01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 25: to use rosin, have to keep their fingers relatively dry

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Speaker 25: while they're pitching. And some guys, I mean, you're sweating

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01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 25: so bad it's just to rip it off of them,

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Speaker 25: and it's hard to do that. Yesterday, I mean, come on,

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01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 25: it was eighty teen degrees in Cincinnati, and it was

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01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 25: warmer in Cincinnati than it was here in Florida. So

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01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 25: I'm sure that you know, over the course of spring ball,

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01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 25: with as much as he sweats, you can develop those

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01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 25: painful and they are painful, by the way, So just

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01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 25: you know, don't write it off.

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01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: As a blister.

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Speaker 25: But the bottom line is that you've got to allow

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01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 25: that tissue to heal. You know, it's no different you

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01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 25: get a blister on your foot, usually under the ball

2212
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 25: of the first ray your big toe on the foot.

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01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 25: I mean, it's hard to push off and until you

2214
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 25: get that to heal, you know, you can put second

2215
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 25: skin on it, you can do all kinds of tricks

2216
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 25: as a trainer to try to unload it. You can't

2217
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 25: unload a finger and have somebody be able to throw,

2218
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 25: you know, a sinker or a slider because you know,

2219
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 25: you've got to have the grip on the ball. So

2220
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 25: you've got to give it time to heal, and you

2221
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 25: know that can take anywhere from steven days to twenty

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01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 25: one days. So but once you come back, you have

2223
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 25: to take steps to avoid it from reoccurring.

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01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 3: And that's my next question is for someone like Nickolodolo

2225
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 3: who has not just gone through one blister, but multiple blisters,

2226
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 3: is there anything you can do to try to prevent this?

2227
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Is there anything you can do to take the steps

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01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 3: necessary so that it doesn't become a problem that's going

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01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 3: to land you on the injured list, perhaps multiple times

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01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 3: a year.

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01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 25: Well, I mean there are, and again I know they

2232
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 25: have a very good training staff. I'm sure they're going

2233
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 25: to do everything they can from a prevention standpoint.

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01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: From you know where.

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01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 25: I sit with, you know, with the tools I have

2236
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 25: at university, things like red light laser, things that help

2237
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 25: the skin revasteralize and get what we'll call a stiffness

2238
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 25: to it or thickness to it. One of the things

2239
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 25: that you know, for people who have skin issues, one

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Speaker 25: of the best modalities we use is laser. Laser has

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01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 25: been excellent for wound healing, effrasurgery and things like that.

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01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 25: So I mean from a skin issue, you know, we

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01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 25: would use some sort of laser productor and also they

2244
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 25: make some skin tougheners so that you can try to

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01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 25: build up a fitness there.

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01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: So he doesn't get it.

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01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 25: But remember one thing, you know, rub your thumb and

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01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 25: your index finger together and your middle finger together, and

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01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 25: you can feel how much play there is or how

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01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 25: much freedom the skin has over the underlying fat pack tissue.

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01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 25: And the more you press it with friction, and the

2252
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 25: more you try to spin a ball, you know that

2253
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 25: friction is what causes the blister. So you know, you've

2254
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 25: really got to make sure that skin is well field

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01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 25: and tough and slowly ramp them back up. And again

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01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 25: I don't know the extent of it. We're just using

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01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 25: past experiences where to where you can you know, be

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01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 25: able to have good control.

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01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: You know of the ball.

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01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 25: But again, I think that you've got to get them

2261
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 25: out of this acute phase, get the blisters starting to heal,

2262
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 25: and then try some different tricks in the toolbox in

2263
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 25: order to toughen that skin up and get him back

2264
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 25: on the mound.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine it's difficult as well for pictures because

2266
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 3: you're relying on that feel so much. So it's not

2267
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 3: like you just want to make the skin so tough

2268
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 3: that you lose part of what makes you an elite pitcher.

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01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 3: So I'm sure it's a delicate balance. Like many injuries though,

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01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 3: Is this one of those injuries that the more often

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01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 3: it happens, the more op you are to get another blister?

2272
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 3: Is that is the reoccurrence, especially for someone who does

2273
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 3: sweat a lot. Is this just something that you're gonna

2274
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 3: kind of have to take and deal with as you go.

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01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think you tak you deal with it as

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01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 25: you go. The skin is very forgiving, luckily our outer

2277
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 25: layer of skin which sluffs off over time. We're kind

2278
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 25: of like snakes that we grow new skin and the

2279
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 25: outer layer fluffs off.

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01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: But again, you know, you're.

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01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 25: Looking at somebody who needs to feel of the ball,

2282
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,719
Speaker 25: somebody who needs to be able to spin the ball,

2283
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 25: and that friction, oftentimes, just like the friction you get

2284
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 25: between your shoe and your bottom of the foot, is

2285
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 25: what causes the blister. Is that that skin moves. And again,

2286
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 25: you don't want to fit. You don't want it to callous,

2287
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 25: because if you callous, then you get the blister under

2288
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 25: the callus and that only makes them even worse because

2289
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 25: now you have to slowly trim the callous back, then

2290
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 25: get rid of the blister and get everything to reheal.

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01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 25: And you know, again to the average person on the street,

2292
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 25: you know, you're looking at a guy making millions of dollars, thinking, well,

2293
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 25: he just has a blister. Well, to a pitcher, you know,

2294
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,520
Speaker 25: and that's like a knee injury to a running back, Okay,

2295
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 25: that's their steel, that's their ability to control.

2296
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,640
Speaker 3: What they throw and not.

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01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 25: He has to have a good hand position, he has

2298
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 25: to have good feel or they start to compensate with

2299
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 25: their elbow, their shorter, their hips, and then all of

2300
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 25: a sudden they use control of the ball. So the

2301
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 25: fingers are really critical for a pitcher.

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Speaker 3: I also I look for pitchers and their specific role,

2303
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 3: and something like this that continues to happen. My question is,

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01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 3: are you treating this much more with caution at the

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01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 3: start of a season maybe than you would in the

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01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: middle of the season or the end, because there's so

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01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 3: much baseball left and you got the summer months ahead

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01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 3: that this is something you want to try to nip

2309
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 3: now or else it couldn't linger on as the season goes.

2310
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 3: Do you have to be a little bit more cautious

2311
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 3: when you're going into the start of a season then

2312
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 3: maybe you would at the back end of a season.

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01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 8: Oh?

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01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 25: Absolutely. I think a lot of mistakes are made in

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01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 25: the beginning of any season of any sport by ramping

2316
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 25: up too quick, by not taking more preventive precautions, because

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01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 25: especially baseball, you know, when is it one hundred and

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01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 25: sixty six games or whatever it is, one hundred and

2319
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 25: sixty two games, that's a long long time period, and

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01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 25: you start to develop problems now and they linger into

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01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 25: the hot months when you're really sweating. You know, now

2322
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 25: you've got a major problems and what takes off is

2323
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 25: a three week injury now all of a sudden becomes

2324
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 25: a lingering two month injury.

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Speaker 3: That is Bob Manjean, University of Cincinnati and Novacare. Bob,

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01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time. Enjoy your trip

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk again soon.

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01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 8: Tony.

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01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 25: Thank you, and again I'm really excited looking forward to

2330
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 25: your next Wednesday night when the Parts and the Reds play.

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01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: Let's go there, let's go, Bob the best. Thank You'll

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01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: be salivating. Moisture, Bob, moisture. It'll be some moisture for sure.

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Speaker 1: I have a great day, Bob, Thank you.

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Speaker 25: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: That is Bob Manjing, the University of Cincinnati and Novacare.

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Speaker 3: the Reds. We kind of know what it is at

2354
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Speaker 3: this point. Nickoladolo is on the fifteen day injured list,

2355
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Speaker 3: Hunter Green is on the sixty day injured list, and

2356
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Speaker 3: Caleb Ferguson with that oblique injury, remains on the fifteen

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Speaker 3: day injured list as well.

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Speaker 4: I liked the update from Charlie earlier that we'll probably

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Speaker 4: hear something in May about the plan with Hunter Green,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully by then there's a positive update and maybe

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Speaker 4: he'll be a little bit ahead of schedule. But if

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Speaker 4: you missed it, earlier, Charlie said that Hunter will be

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Speaker 4: in Arizona at least until May. Maybe after that they'll

2364
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 4: figure things out then. Yes, Also I believe Hunter lives

2365
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Speaker 4: out there. If I'm not mistaken all the time, he's home,

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Speaker 4: he's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: to win the VIP table and a two hundred dollars

2379
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 3: gift card for.

2380
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Speaker 1: Four at Twin Peaks for the final game. Did you

2381
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 1: do or place any Home Dog wagers yesterday?

2382
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 3: I did not Yesterday. Yesday such a I just feel

2383
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:56,520
Speaker 3: like Yesterday's such a whirlwind.

2384
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 4: So far in the Home Dog strategy teams are one

2385
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 4: and three. The first one was San Francisco on Opening night,

2386
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 4: which you may up on them tonight, and you would

2387
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 4: double up on them tonight. Saint Louis did win yesterday

2388
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 4: with that come from behind when the Padres got smoked

2389
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 4: by the Tigers and the Reds did lose yesterday. Now

2390
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 4: here's my question. I always forget this. Yeah, the Padres,

2391
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 4: as I was going to ask, favored tonight If I

2392
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 4: remember correctly, Mike in LA's strategy on this is that

2393
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 4: you do not ever bet on a team that's favored

2394
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 4: at home.

2395
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 3: I think that's correct, So you you're done. Like for me,

2396
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 3: what would be interesting tomorrow? If the Reds are a dog,

2397
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 3: then you would double up on the Reds if they're

2398
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 3: a favorite. With Brady Singer on the mound, though, do

2399
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 3: you not make that bet?

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01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2401
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 4: Correct, I don't know what it is at the moment, okay,

2402
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 4: but I would assume there'll be dogs again.

2403
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be my assumption.

2404
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 3: Mentioned earlier Sweet sixteen action tonight Saint John's Duke seven

2405
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 3: Michigan seven thirty five and then the nine to forty

2406
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 3: five or the late slate Mischigan State and Yukon, Tennessee

2407
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 3: and Iowa State. From there, the Elite eight will be established.

2408
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 3: Two games on Saturday, two more on Sunday, and by

2409
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 3: the time we're talking again next week, we'll be talking

2410
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 3: about the final four.

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01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 4: I won't be watching any of that because I gotta

2412
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 4: watch Kyle Freeland, friend of the show, Pitch Freeland Night,

2413
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 4: opening night opening day game for the Rockies and for

2414
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 4: the Marlins Tonight, Kyle Freeland Rockies record fifth opening day

2415
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 4: start going up against Sandy Alcintara, who is also has

2416
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 4: the Marlins record for opening day start.

2417
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: The two pitchers at one point were at the top

2418
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 1: of the game.

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01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 4: They really were, and I think Alkintara a lot of

2420
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 4: people feel like he can get back to it. But

2421
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how many teams didn't play yesterday. Yeah,

2422
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 4: and I just baseball is so confusing why they do

2423
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 4: this the way that they do. The Royals and Braves

2424
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 4: will play tonight, The Rockies and Marlins that I just mentioned,

2425
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 4: the A's and the Blue Jays will all play tonight.

2426
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 4: They none of those teams played yesterday, so this is

2427
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 4: their opening day.

2428
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand.

2429
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is unique in a sense and I just

2430
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 3: thought maybe with the Blue Jays that's a Canadian thing.

2431
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 4: Nope, I don't believe. So the American League champions. I

2432
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 4: think they got to unveil their banner coming up to

2433
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 4: I know, the Dodgers get their rings. I believe tonight

2434
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 4: or tomorrow, or maybe that was last night they got

2435
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 4: their rings. Yeah, it was last night they got their rings.

2436
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 4: But also, do you know the Reds are gonna be

2437
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 4: the Rangers home opener next week? The Rangers are on

2438
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 4: the road all the way up until next week.

2439
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 3: It's always fascinating too that because you think of how

2440
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 3: it's always been in Cincinnati that there are teams that

2441
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 3: get into next week before they actually have their first opening,

2442
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 3: their opening day.

2443
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Reds have an off day on Thursday,

2444
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 4: the second, and then play a Friday four pm game

2445
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 4: in Texas against the Rangers, which is kind of strange,

2446
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 4: but that is the Rangers home opener.

2447
01:56:58,520 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: There we go. So there'll be a lot of pomp

2448
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 1: and circumstance.

2449
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 3: And well, I'll tell you one thing, no pomping circumstance

2450
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 3: around our guy Moager. He's dialed in. He's dialed in.

2451
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 3: He's ready to help us pass the baton to the

2452
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 3: Moeger Show. Quick Hits with Moager.

2453
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: I get to produce the Moeger Show today. How about that?

2454
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: It never happens? What a day? Thank you Drew Wester

2455
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Heidi for giving me a blow from down the hall.

2456
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 3: The Legger's next ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

2457
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 2: Right now, it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes

2458
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: since he three.

2459
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 3: Sixty, welcome back?

2460
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Since hi mos in the building? Are we doing? What's

2461
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: going on?

2462
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 3: It's the day after.

2463
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the day after Yeah.

2464
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 27: And uh it's I have never been more prepared for

2465
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 27: a show, really because there's nobody here.

2466
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just blows through. It's unbelievable.

2467
01:57:56,720 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 3: It's I feel like there's four to five days on

2468
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 3: the iHeart calendar, or when I get to work that day,

2469
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I doing here? Well that honestly

2470
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 3: the most of our colleagues feel that way. Me what

2471
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 3: are you doing here? Correct? But the day after day?

2472
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 3: Are you on the air today? What's happening? What station

2473
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 3: are you on?

2474
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: You're on at three o'clock today.

2475
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 27: I'm on at three o'clock today, and I'm excited because

2476
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 27: I get a chance to work with Austin's right, yeah,

2477
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 27: which is a special treat love. Austin trem Blan is off,

2478
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 27: so Audie and I he's going to have as you guys.

2479
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 27: You I'm sure Austin now knows. But my favorite television

2480
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 27: show of all time is The Sopranos. And because Austin's

2481
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 27: working with me today, he has chosen to dress like

2482
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 27: Tony Soprano when there was a hit on him.

2483
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 3: While you're doing the show, Austin, have you seen the Sopranos?

2484
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 4: I have seen like random clocks, but I have never

2485
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 4: seen a full episode.

2486
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 27: Man, he's dressed like the guy and the mob who

2487
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 27: has to go get bagels.

2488
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 4: Sorry, I sat next to somebody. I sat right right

2489
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 4: in front of someone at opening day yesterday, Mo, who

2490
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 4: used to be your intern.

2491
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 3: I unplugged my headphones accedllently, go ahead.

2492
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 4: I sat right in front of somebody at the game

2493
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 4: yesterday who used to be your intern. And they told

2494
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 4: me that you would give them twenty bucks and say,

2495
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 4: can you please go get me a red bull and

2496
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 4: keep the change.

2497
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know that it was a twenty.

2498
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: That's what they told us me. I'll go get you.

2499
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 3: I saw Eli yesterday.

2500
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you need anything.

2501
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 3: That?

2502
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 27: Now? I told her that, now you add peanut M

2503
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 27: and MS to the order. I do so. Similar story

2504
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 27: to that. When I first started. One day, Bill Cunningham asked,

2505
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 27: he would always ask if I had changed to buy

2506
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 27: a seven up. This is when we had event machine

2507
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 27: and the drinks in the vending machine.

2508
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Day fifty cents.

2509
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 27: Yeah, one day and I was like twenty one years old.

2510
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 27: He comes in and he gives me one hundred dollars

2511
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 27: bill and he goes, Okay, now what I asked for

2512
02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 27: a seven up, I expect you to have change. So

2513
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 27: here's one hundred dollars bill for two hundred seven up

2514
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 27: cans over the course of however long it was going

2515
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 27: to take. So he gives me one hundred dollar bill,

2516
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 27: and then I had to, like, you know, make sure

2517
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 27: I had fifty cents every single time he asked, wow,

2518
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 27: So I don't know that I I probably said, like,

2519
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 27: run out and get me a sandwich or something and

2520
02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 27: you can get I don't know that I red bulls

2521
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 27: a like three bucks.

2522
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just the story margin tell Emily that

2523
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 3: she's a liar.

2524
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:42,480
Speaker 14: You know.

2525
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 1: It's an impressive margin.

2526
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 4: Willie once gave me a fifty dollars bill because he

2527
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 4: liked a stat I gave on an extra innings broadcast.

2528
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2529
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 3: Wow, a different world, man, It's a different world people

2530
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 3: are living in now. With Austin in the producer seat today,

2531
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 3: what do you got on the show? The Rats have

2532
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 3: a Key Brian Hayes problem. Oh, and it's gonna sound

2533
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 3: like I'm picking on the dude, and I'm not. But

2534
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 3: how do you not use Nathaniel Lowe in the seventh

2535
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 3: inning to pinchhip for Key Brian Hayes in a one

2536
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:15,800
Speaker 3: nothing game? That doesn't make any sense if they have

2537
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 3: a Key Brian Hayes problem. Do they have a third

2538
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 3: base problem?

2539
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

2540
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 3: Yes, so who else can play? We're going to discuss

2541
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 3: this today, right Yeah.

2542
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 27: I mean like Key Brian Hayes is on the team

2543
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:28,920
Speaker 27: because of his glove, which means there are times when

2544
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 27: you have to take him out because of his lack

2545
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 27: of a bat. But if you're not willing to do

2546
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 27: that because you don't trust anybody else to play the position,

2547
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 27: then maybe it's not a Key Brian Hayes problem, but

2548
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 27: it is a problem, so we will discuss.

2549
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 3: And it was tough yesterday because it fell in the

2550
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 3: one inning of the game in which you felt like

2551
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 3: he had a chance. Yeah, Crochet Whitlock Chapman, you had

2552
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 3: one opportunity in the middle, Yeah, the guy that walked

2553
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 3: the lead off batter, and you really did nothing with it. Yep,

2554
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 3: So you know it's overreaction.

2555
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 27: Friday, the day after Opening Day, always is for sure,

2556
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 27: let's get shut out, which isn't a huge deal. I

2557
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 27: thought yesterday was largely a success for two reasons.

2558
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Speaker 3: We'll discuss them.

2559
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 27: Plus, don't let the attention on Opening Day, both the

2560
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 27: game and whatever the hell was going on after the

2561
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 27: game downtown. Don't let that distract from the biggest issue

2562
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 27: in Cincinnati right now, which is the Bengals ignoring the obvious.

2563
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 27: How do we not talk about this every day? So

2564
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 27: we will the Bengals search for a linebacker? Oh and

2565
02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:29,160
Speaker 27: why they let Tyson Anderson go fair questions?

2566
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:34,240
Speaker 4: You know they are way too expensive linebackers, So we'll

2567
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 4: obviously spend some time on that as well.

2568
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 27: And can you imagine what it would be like to

2569
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 27: watch your favorite college basketball team's season come to an

2570
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,040
Speaker 27: end in a game we're down the stretch, the coach

2571
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 27: forgot to put five players on the floor.

2572
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 3: That happened last night. The coach took Fred Hoiberg, the

2573
02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 3: best rebounder out of the game as well. The rebound

2574
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 3: my god for Texas is off the floor on the

2575
02:02:57,280 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 3: last possession. And then Hoyburg's got four guys.

2576
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 27: College basketball teams like, if you look at their benches now,

2577
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 27: there's like nineteen staffers. How is there not a guy?

2578
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 27: So you know, Jared Calhoun is the new coach at U.

2579
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 27: See sure, and I don't know that there's assistant coaching openings.

2580
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 27: But to avoid a similar fate, I am offering to

2581
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 27: be the count of five guy.

2582
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 1: You got the most games I do You could do

2583
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 1: that while you're there.

2584
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 3: Count to five guy. Yeah, and Jared one, two, three, four, five,

2585
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 3: got it? You're good, cool, good, And you'd probably do

2586
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 3: that for just some Jordan Gear. I'll do that for

2587
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 3: some Jordan Gear. Yes, okay, Jordan Gear. The other two

2588
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 3: games last night, I mean Arkansas puts up eighty eight, yes,

2589
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 3: and to give up one oh nine. I thought Arizona

2590
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 3: last night, if you could equate the baseball offensively, they

2591
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 3: pitched a perfect game.

2592
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, just so they did whatever they wanted.

2593
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 27: Yeah, they did, and you watch them when you go, boy,

2594
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Speaker 27: how does anybody beat them? But I think Michigan can,

2595
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 27: I think Duke can, I think Purdue will.

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Speaker 3: Oh what about the other one? Because very rarely do

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Speaker 3: you say that someone out Houston Houston. That's a good

2598
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,720
Speaker 3: way to put it. Last night, I guess I was

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Speaker 3: unaware to the extent of Illinois and the overseas All

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Speaker 3: Star team that they have assembled. They are men, they

2601
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 3: play well together, they're physical, they're tough, they can beach

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Speaker 3: in a lot of different ways. Tooyakovic's kid is out

2603
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,920
Speaker 3: there doing whatever we wanted last night that you know,

2604
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 3: Houston hits the three at the end of the half

2605
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 3: to cut it the two, and you're like, all right,

2606
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,680
Speaker 3: this kind of feels now like Houston's style of play,

2607
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 3: they'll go on a run, and instead it was Illinois

2608
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 3: who did just the opposite.

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02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Very rarely you see that type of game go against Houston.

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Speaker 3: We talked on our.

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Speaker 27: Show yesterday, which we didn't air thirty two commercials an hour,

2612
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Speaker 27: but we talked on our show yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Someone called in the day and did the math and said,

2614
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 3: earlier in the day you had.

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Speaker 1: What was it? It was thirty five commercials, you had

2616
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Speaker 1: one break.

2617
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 3: Someone did the math and said that you had fourteen

2618
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 3: minutes of airtime in one hour.

2619
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Speaker 27: So we talked yesterday quickly previewing the Sweet sixteen. And

2620
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 27: I'm not doing this to pat myself on the back,

2621
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 27: but I picked Illinois to win the game because I

2622
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 27: thought good offensive team, plus they offensively rebounded, and they

2623
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 27: don't turn it over. They had the antidote to what

2624
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 27: Houston does. What I didn't expect was for Illinois to defend,

2625
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 27: or to defend as a normal person would say it

2626
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 27: the way they Yeah, so.

2627
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I defend.

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Speaker 27: I was rooting for Houston. Yeah, we've made a big

2629
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 27: deal about this all along. But Illinois, to me was

2630
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 27: I thought the most slept on team in the tournament

2631
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 27: coming home.

2632
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the lineup tonight.

2633
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 27: Of oh So, I think they were giving me a

2634
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 27: reds lineup like the off day to day, there's no

2635
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 27: game tonight. I I think Michigan's gonna hammer Alabama. Okay,

2636
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:46,840
Speaker 27: I think Duke is going to defend too well for

2637
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 27: a Saint John's team that's not great offensive.

2638
02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 3: Sat Jones offense.

2639
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 23: Worry.

2640
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Speaker 3: I mean because inside with edge of four and Hopkins

2641
02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:55,640
Speaker 3: and even Dylan Mitchell. I think they can match Duke's size.

2642
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 3: I just don't think Saint Johnson's score enough.

2643
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 27: I was State, I like, and I like somewhat convincingly

2644
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 27: over Tennessee.

2645
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:06,839
Speaker 3: That was the only line that I was thrown back by. Yeah,

2646
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 3: three and a half. I was like, that seems low

2647
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:12,839
Speaker 3: for Iowa State and Yukon Michigan.

2648
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 27: I guess I like Yukon, but of the four, that's

2649
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 27: the one that I feel least confident.

2650
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Luke Murray took the Boston College job, and

2651
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 3: so he's probably been busy to not do what his

2652
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 3: fun fact, fun fact, Luke Murray's dad was in Ghostbusters.

2653
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,879
Speaker 3: That did you know Will Wade's back at LSU. I've

2654
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 3: heard this, Yes, what a crazy, crazy cycle.

2655
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 4: This is getting off the plane and like celebrating as

2656
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 4: if he just got out of jail.

2657
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Speaker 3: They had the photo circulating two of the one Jim

2658
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 3: Valvano took and the one that Will Wade then took,

2659
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 3: And you're like, you want to talk about polar opposites

2660
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 3: leading a program.

2661
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 27: So Will Wade, just like a week and a half ago,

2662
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 27: is like, look this NC State, this roster I have

2663
02:06:57,840 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 27: right now.

2664
02:06:58,200 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 3: This will be the worst roster I ever have here.

2665
02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 3: Guess he was right. Yeah, what about a villain school now?

2666
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 3: Lane Kiff and Will Wade love it great. Kim Monkey

2667
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 3: forgot about her?

2668
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm all in.

2669
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 3: Are you going to kids Opening Day tomorrow? Taking Crosley

2670
02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:16,280
Speaker 3: on Sunday?

2671
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Sunday game, Little Sunday game. Be a little cold

2672
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow for the kids. Crowsley likes to listen to me

2673
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 1: on extra innings after the game. She does.

2674
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 27: Okay, so that's why we're I thought we'd like come

2675
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 27: up to the station after the game and yeah, you know,

2676
02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 27: maybe just.

2677
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:29,720
Speaker 1: Live in studios.

2678
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,280
Speaker 3: She she made me freaking your studio.

2679
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 1: That made me this decoration for the studio fantastic. I

2680
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 1: love it.

2681
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 27: Yeah, She's like, I want you to put this in

2682
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 27: your She called it in my room. I as she meant, here,

2683
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 27: this works.

2684
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 3: Hang it up there.

2685
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 1: It is.

2686
02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:47,840
Speaker 3: Have a great show, mo enjoy this Friday. Thanks, We're

2687
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 3: done the RASCO producing. The next time, have a great weekend.

2688
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 3: Mow Egger's Sho's next on ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Football fans