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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Angles head coach Zach Taylor meeting with the media right now.

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Speaker 3: Guys, you know it's when that guy's in the game.

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Speaker 3: You're calling it that way, you know immediately when they're

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Speaker 3: not in the game. So yes, it changes in terms

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Speaker 3: of tight end being over there back from around the backfield.

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Speaker 3: It's not as substantial as when he's in the game,

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Speaker 3: and no different than how we track it when we

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Speaker 3: play their teams.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the young edges try to try to

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Speaker 2: take that next step there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to continue to improve you know, like Samore,

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Speaker 3: really you look at Shamo's time on task, it's it's

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Speaker 3: minimal and what he's got the opportunity to do. And

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Speaker 3: so I seem to sending player who's just working to

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Speaker 3: get better every single day. And that's that's what we're

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Speaker 3: asking to do. Same as you're talking young, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know Miles is in this third year. I see

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Speaker 3: Miles working to to continue to strain and we've seen

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Speaker 3: some good flashes from him as well. And so just

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Speaker 3: continue to see those guys develop to be.

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Speaker 4: Sure you're still in a sack that there's a defense

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Speaker 4: only games today to kind of address all of the

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Speaker 4: techniques and kind of also this ejector part of yesterday

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Speaker 4: sticking together with group, what does that show you about

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Speaker 4: his leadership.

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Speaker 5: That group?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we've got we've got good people.

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Speaker 3: In that room, and we're into holding each other accountable.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the biggest thing. It's just it's a little

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Speaker 3: it's little things. It's not always a big thing.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just giving up an extra three yards sometimes on

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Speaker 3: a run or a perimeter play. It's it's being a

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Speaker 3: step hesitant and so maybe you're not missing a tackle,

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Speaker 3: but you are missing a tackle because of the little

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Speaker 3: hesitancy there. So those are things that I think we're

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Speaker 3: seeing as a unit as a team that.

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Speaker 6: We've got to clean up and be better at.

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Speaker 3: And and there's not wholesale changes to be made with

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Speaker 3: that stuff, just fundamentally, we got to be better. And

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Speaker 3: that's that's really at every level of the defense. There's

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Speaker 3: certainly things in the other two phases as well that

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Speaker 3: we have to clean up on offenses, special teams as

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Speaker 3: well that hasn't been good enough either.

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Speaker 6: So as a team, those are the things that we're

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Speaker 6: all accountable for.

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Speaker 3: And I know that the guys are of the right

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Speaker 3: mindset to get a fixed and play better so that

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Speaker 3: we can go win a game.

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Speaker 7: How much do you look back at some of the

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Speaker 7: stuff yesterday and just say there's just too much inexperience on.

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Speaker 3: The field of the effects together, that's what that's where

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Speaker 3: we're at, and so we have to create that experience quickly,

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Speaker 3: you know. And so again learning from.

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Speaker 5: Number one.

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Speaker 6: Can't make the same mistake twice.

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Speaker 3: So maybe you're seeing it for the first time or

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Speaker 3: in the context of a game for the first time,

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Speaker 3: and if we slow to react in the second time,

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Speaker 3: be a little bit of that, especially when you're playing

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Speaker 3: some young players, which we got a couple of rookies

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about them. And at moments there's going to

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Speaker 3: be growing pains. You just can't have them all together.

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Speaker 3: You know, one play this guy, one to play that guy.

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Speaker 3: I see elements that I'm excited about in our future

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Speaker 3: as we continue to grow this week and going forward.

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Speaker 3: And so again just just like I stated, it's about

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Speaker 3: all right. We made a mistake. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: repeat that mistake again. I've learned from it. I've been

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Speaker 3: after the snaff And again we got there. We got

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Speaker 3: the when you one thing you look at when you're

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not an effort it's not a want to,

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Speaker 3: it's not a guy's checking out. It wasn't perfect all

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Speaker 3: the time, but there were moments there in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: I saw eleven guys forming to the ball, you know,

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Speaker 3: And and we're going to continue to build off of that.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to run from the fact that it was.

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Speaker 3: It was good enough, it wasn't good enough. We got

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Speaker 3: There's some opportunities we had where we're an inch away

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Speaker 3: those are things that will be better for in the future.

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Speaker 2: Message that the today.

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Speaker 6: Similar I mean some similar to other things I've sitting

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Speaker 8: You look at the standards right balance, for all of

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Speaker 8: the struggles on defense, for all the struggles you've had

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Speaker 3: See, I'm aware of it absolutely, And today's about cleaning

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Speaker 6: That hasn't been a focus for today.

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Speaker 3: We we just have to control things we can control

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Speaker 3: because we do that, we're going to be just fine

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Speaker 3: moving in the future, and we'll be able to take

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Speaker 6: And we know that. I know that our guys are

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Speaker 3: From active there's things you know, we're going to look at,

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Speaker 3: being creative with it. I'm not going to get in

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Speaker 3: then then we got to find ways to fix it.

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Speaker 3: And so that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 7: What you said about not making the same mistake twice

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Speaker 7: is the tackling issue, because it does keep coming up

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Speaker 7: over and over again. Is that purely physical? Is that

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Speaker 3: No, I think it's it's at moments, there's the platt

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Speaker 3: miss tackles. At moment there's a there's a step of

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Speaker 6: Can't keep sitting up here and seeing it.

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Speaker 7: What is the tape telling you about the last two

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Speaker 7: games from a past rushing standpoint, no sacks on the

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Speaker 6: When you look at it and you just broke down

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Speaker 9: Is it guys just not.

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Speaker 5: Winning one on one?

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Speaker 4: Is it as simple as that?

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Speaker 5: Or what are you diagnosing as that issues?

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Speaker 3: It's got to be everybody collectively. It's there's that there's

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Speaker 3: got to be some more one on ones that we're winning,

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Speaker 3: we're getting home on with our pressures, we're we're sometimes

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Speaker 3: we're right there, right in the thick of it, and

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Speaker 3: and maybe at that point there's a coverage set up

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Speaker 3: you get the ball and find a completion. So it

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Speaker 3: all works together in conjunction, and I think overall it's

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Speaker 3: certainly an area we get improved.

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Speaker 6: Got to take the pastor.

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Speaker 10: Don't talk to talk about playing with playing with the

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Speaker 10: lad go back to last year, you all have had

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that is, Well, there was three.

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Speaker 3: Drives there we didn't score in the second half, and

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Speaker 3: and two efficient plays the third down didn't work out

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Speaker 3: for us. Disappointing because that was to me, that was

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Speaker 3: the opportunity for us to put the game away, quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: you've asked a lot of defensive questions a lot, but

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Speaker 3: there's still things on offense obviously that you know, we

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Speaker 3: and we just did and and you cross that forty

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Speaker 3: again we have high expectations for what the offense does.

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Speaker 3: There was opportunities there yesterday to capitalize on to get

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Speaker 3: more points on the board, even if it's just three points.

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Speaker 3: And would have been able to win the game and

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Speaker 3: be able to clean up the stuff after a win,

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Speaker 3: which is a lot more fun than doing after a loss.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean that anything necessarily changes because we still got

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Speaker 3: to make these corrections, but there were still opportunities out

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Speaker 10: When you go back and look at some of the

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Speaker 10: opportutions last year that kind of slept again slip through

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Speaker 10: else fingers.

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Speaker 2: Is there other commonalities that you see as now?

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Speaker 6: I think last year was different than this year everything point.

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Speaker 4: Two with Padre this year, maybe why he's not taking

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Speaker 3: So I think there's certainly a couple of plays that

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Speaker 3: he wants back, and there's been some times he's made

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Speaker 3: some big plays for us as well.

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Speaker 6: So I got I got a lot of faith in Andrea.

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Speaker 10: Before the first two point conversion, it seemed like there

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Speaker 10: was like a late summer two like was there something

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Speaker 10: confusion or communication there.

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Speaker 3: When they went for two? There was slight confusion. We

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Speaker 3: got our guys on the field and they got the

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Speaker 3: call and they were will operate.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This has been the Zach Taylor Press conference on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official hole of bus Cincinnati Bengals, you.

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Speaker 2: Know as Zach Taylor press conferences go a little bit

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Speaker 2: on the short side. That gives us a little bit

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Speaker 2: more time. It's not Man's after three o'clock on Moegor.

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Tony Pike is with me.

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Speaker 2: It's the Tony and Mo Football Show. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: today from Twin Peaks in Florence. We are in Westchester

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Speaker 2: next week, but for now, Like if you're thinking, I

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Speaker 2: want to watch Monday Night football, I want to watch

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Speaker 2: Game two of the Game three of the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Tastern College game day, Salt Lake City cross country flight

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Speaker 2: Nineteen minutes after three o'clock, How long can I go

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Speaker 5: Well, let's see FC Cincinnati does play tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's football. I don't like the football show. I don't

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Speaker 5: No exhibitions don't matter. Yea World Series Game three is tonight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a Monday night football game.

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Speaker 5: Trying to see what else I wrote down. The Ring

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Speaker 2: That's a problem.

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Speaker 5: Troy Dillon had an internet temper tantrum. Outside of that,

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Speaker 2: The worst loss of the Zach Taylor era easily. We'll

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Speaker 1: Versus pause. When the Bengals and Bears battle in the jungle,

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Speaker 1: one thing I know for sure, somebody's getting malled. Will

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Speaker 2: Six after three o'clock, It's the Toonian Mo Football Show.

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Speaker 2: And Twin Peaks in Florence on ESPN fifteen thirty. More

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Speaker 2: on the Bearcats coming up here in just a bit.

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Speaker 2: Because again winners go first, which means I guess we

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Speaker 2: should talk in great detail about the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yes's first one of the Aaron Glenn Era. Here's where

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Speaker 2: I want to start. I want to start from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: You played on a team in two thousand and nine

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Speaker 2: that went undefeated. You did not go undefeated on the

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Speaker 2: strength of your defense. Now, your defense obviously had a

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Speaker 2: hand in the success. You don't go undefeated without your

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Speaker 2: defense making plays. But you played for a team that

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Speaker 2: had defensive deficiencies. And I'm watching the Bengals yesterday. Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco put up thirty eight points. They ran the ball well,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't perfect. And so what is it like

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Speaker 2: if you're Joe Flacco? What is it like if you're

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Speaker 2: on that offense, and even on days where you're productive,

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Speaker 2: and even on days where you are executing, you feel

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Speaker 2: like you have to score every single time.

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Speaker 5: It's frustrating at times. At times it can be fun

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Speaker 5: because you get more opportunities. But for the most part,

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Speaker 5: it adds a whole nother level of pressure that I

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Speaker 5: don't think is viewed by just someone tuning into a

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Speaker 5: random game. You know, the idea that we can't stop

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Speaker 5: these guys. We have to be perfect, and if we're

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Speaker 5: not perfect, we're not going to win the game is

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Speaker 5: a lot of pressure. And the unfortunate side with that

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Speaker 5: added pressure is it comes with the ability to maybe

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Speaker 5: make some mistakes, you know, to feel like and if

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Speaker 5: I don't make something happen. If we, like yesterday, they

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Speaker 5: went three and out, and we'll talk about the decisions

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Speaker 5: at the end of the game. It felt at that

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Speaker 5: point like they were going to lose the game. Think

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Speaker 5: about that, though, a team that was down six, that

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Speaker 5: just didn't have to get three. We had to go

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Speaker 5: score without Garrett Wilson, with that their second leading receiver,

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Speaker 5: with Justin Fields at quarterback, and the thought was not

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Speaker 5: all right, go find a way to win it. It was,

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Speaker 5: but they're going to either lose this game or they're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to go score again to win it. Right,

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Speaker 5: That is incredible to think about that Jet like it's

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Speaker 5: not kicking the ball to Mahomes and thinking, oh boy,

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Speaker 5: you were kicking the ball to a quarterback that had

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Speaker 5: been benched and embarrassed by his owner, right and then

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Speaker 5: thrust back into the starting job without his two best

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Speaker 5: pass catchers, And there was not an ounce of confidence around.

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 5: That it makes you have to be perfect and eventually

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Speaker 5: as an offense, it just wears on you.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine what it must be like for Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: for Jamar Chase, for those players on offense. And we

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Speaker 2: will talk about some of the things they didn't do

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Speaker 2: well yesterday as well, But I just I know what

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Speaker 2: it felt like in the stadium yesterday, that three and

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Speaker 2: out before in New York's last possession, where we all

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Speaker 2: knew what then was gonna happen. And it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: matter of are they gonna lose the game? It was

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Speaker 2: is there gonna be enough time once the Jets score

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Speaker 2: and take the lead for the Bengals to win the game.

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Speaker 2: Not unlike the Pittsburgh game last Thursday, and so I

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Speaker 2: know that feeling as a fan where it's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: the offense has been great today, but it's not perfect.

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Speaker 2: And because it's not perfect, now the door is open.

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine what that must feel like for those

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Speaker 2: guys on offense.

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Speaker 5: But that is also why the second to last drive

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Speaker 5: of the game didn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: None, because none.

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Speaker 5: If I'm an offense and I'm a quarterback, what am

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Speaker 5: I thinking about doing there? Three points? Here? The game

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Speaker 5: is over right at the very minimum. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: ran the ball at the end of the day seven

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Speaker 5: point nine yards per carry. So one the clock is

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Speaker 5: your friend, yep. Two, I don't have to go put

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Speaker 5: six on the board. I've just got to manufacture a

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Speaker 5: drive that ends in points. Is that indicative of a

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Speaker 5: drive where you come out and throw the ball three

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Speaker 5: straight times? No? And not only to throw the ball

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Speaker 5: three straight times. I get the first one, and I'll

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Speaker 5: give a pass on the first one because it looked

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Speaker 5: like a run pass option where they were just taking

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Speaker 5: an easy, easy completion. Wasn't the greatest pass? Ball gets

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Speaker 5: dropped second and ten. You had no problem running a

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Speaker 5: second ten run on your last drive. Of the game,

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Speaker 5: but second ten, with a six point lead, and you

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Speaker 5: decide to throw the ball to andre Yosibash who can't

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Speaker 5: couldn't get open on any of us right now, Yes,

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Speaker 5: and then on the final play you give up a sack,

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Speaker 5: Flacco has to go back to the medical tent, and

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Speaker 5: you took at the very end of it one minute

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Speaker 5: and two seconds off the clock. So you know, that

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Speaker 5: was my biggest battle, MO was going back and forth

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Speaker 5: about minutes. It's hard to really criticize a lot of

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Speaker 5: the offense because they scored thirty eight, right, But yet

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Speaker 5: when they needed to be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 5: as we've seen in the past, they failed, and they

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Speaker 5: failed miserably well.

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Speaker 2: And here's what I don't understand about that drive. The

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Speaker 2: previous drive, samajp Rind runs for twenty one yards, samajp

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Speaker 2: Rin runs for eleven yards, Chase Brown runs for twelve yards,

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown runs for five yards, Chase Brown runs for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. Yeah, the previous drive. Yeah, you had success

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Speaker 2: on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Dominating them.

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Speaker 2: You had eight so beating them into submission, you're right.

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Speaker 2: It's it's hard to blame a quarterback or a play

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Speaker 2: caller when first and ten involves throwing to Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: But dude, you had just scored on a drive where

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Speaker 2: you were kicking their ass up front and you were

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Speaker 2: getting large chunks of yardage with both of your running backs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: run it twice, then throw like I'll make it about

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight football. Give me two runs, then a throw.

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Speaker 5: And again you go back seven point nine yards per carry.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like, yes, all right, they're getting the ball

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Speaker 5: back and they're gonna have to manufacture something on the

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Speaker 5: ground because they haven't been able to run the ball

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Speaker 5: all day. They were awesome running the ball and then

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Speaker 5: when you needed it the most, and again, the mindset's different,

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Speaker 5: Like if I got to go get six, mindset might

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Speaker 5: change a little bit. I get the ball and I

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Speaker 5: know I just need three, and if I get three,

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Speaker 5: the game's over and you go three and out. And

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Speaker 5: then I wrote that you get the ball down one

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Speaker 5: point with a minute and fifty four left, Chase Brown

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Speaker 5: with a minute and twenty three on the clock, Mow

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Speaker 5: runs the ball for twelve yards. The next time the

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Speaker 5: ball was snapped was forty eight seconds on the clock

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Speaker 5: with three times three timeouts. So here's the thing if

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Speaker 5: you're across the fifty and you want to start getting cute. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 5: Like to me, how about get into field goal range

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Speaker 5: and then run the ball and let clock come off

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Speaker 5: the clock?

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Speaker 2: Like, because the.

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Speaker 5: Jets weren't calling their time out and I'm yelling at

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Speaker 5: the screen, what are we waiting for?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Get lined like nothing is guaranteed, Get lined up. We'll

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Speaker 5: had a ways to go. And then second and ten,

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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you've got forty two seconds left

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Speaker 5: on the forty four and you try to sneak.

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Speaker 2: A run by gonna run for some JP RYD And like.

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Speaker 5: The mindset I can understand logically thinking like well, they're

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Speaker 5: thinking past we're gonna gash him. That doesn't happen. But

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Speaker 5: what's it's set up after that? Third and nine disaster

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Speaker 5: pressured and then a fourth down drop? We'll get to

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Speaker 5: the fourth down drop. Someone caught in today though, and

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Speaker 5: they made a great point that I didn't think about

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Speaker 5: until today. Fourth and nine season essentially on the line.

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Speaker 5: Take a time out? Yes? Can I take a time out?

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Speaker 5: And talked to Joe Yep and Dan Pitcher Yep and

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Speaker 5: Zachep and Jamar and t and maybe maybe in that

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Speaker 5: time out, mo Troy Walters could have came over and said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 5: t Higgins been targeted twice today, can we find one here? Instead,

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Speaker 5: it just it felt like a normal play call. Take

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Speaker 5: your time, you have a timeout. It's the biggest play

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Speaker 5: of the year. Get in the best thing where you're

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Speaker 5: on the same page with everyone. Instead, the call is

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Speaker 5: for Yoshi to get a ball over the middle, and

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Speaker 5: he dropped it. Just don't cold drop Flaco. Put the

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Speaker 5: ball away from the defense where it needed to be.

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Speaker 5: Take a time out. They it felt.

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Speaker 2: They ended the game with two in Zach Taylor's back pocket.

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Speaker 5: It felt like Zach was completely overwhelmed by those last

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Speaker 5: two drives.

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Speaker 2: I mean Joe Flack, who has acquitted himself very very nicely.

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Speaker 2: I have a quarterback who's been with the team for

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Speaker 2: less than two weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Biggest play this season is hanging in the balance. If

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Speaker 2: they don't convert game over and season in tremendous peril.

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Speaker 5: Take a time out.

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Speaker 2: If Joe Burrow is the quarterback, I want them to

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Speaker 2: talk to talk about it. I want to hang on

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Speaker 2: to one time out if I need it. I get that,

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't even then it doesn't matter if you

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Speaker 2: don't convert, Like, how do you not have a conversation.

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Speaker 5: And have the ability to be like, hey, what can

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Speaker 5: we go to that can allow them to not double

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Speaker 5: team Jamar and T? Right? Because numbers wise, mo, if

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Speaker 5: you put Jamar and T on the same side, you

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Speaker 5: can't put four over there. Like, talk through that, take

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Speaker 5: a moment. What do we have here? What do we

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Speaker 5: like as a go to? Again? What I want to

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Speaker 5: I want to know sometime during the game. I go

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Speaker 5: back to my experiences two thousand and nine, Charlie Monall,

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Speaker 5: the wide receiver coach would come up to me and

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Speaker 5: BK at times and say, hey, we need to we

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Speaker 5: needed to find a way to get DJ at ball.

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Speaker 5: We need to find a way to get armand a

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Speaker 5: touch here. At some point in the game, can anyone say, hey,

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Speaker 5: we have T Higgins available.

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Speaker 2: He's only been targeted twice and one of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, is that not a conversation that's ever had

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Speaker 5: beause Zach's so busy And I get it. Your defense

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Speaker 5: is struggling. You're calling plays, you're the head coach. If

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Speaker 5: that's too much for you, then stop calling plays. Yep,

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Speaker 5: Because at some point someone has to be able on

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Speaker 5: that sideline to approach Zach and say, hey man, can

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Speaker 5: we get Tea involved? I just how do you not

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Speaker 5: do that?

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Speaker 2: I just, for the life of me in that situation right,

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Speaker 2: there are two timeouts in your back pocket. Your quarterback

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Speaker 2: just got here, Joe, Yeah, what play have we run

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Speaker 2: in the two weeks you've been here that you are

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Speaker 2: most comfortable with?

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Speaker 5: And not only that, the quarterback that just got here

647
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Speaker 5: didn't have a chance in between series to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: He was in the locker room. Then he runs out

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Speaker 5: and gets his helmet. Yeah, can he get can you

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Speaker 5: let him collect himself, get a breather, get a breather,

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Speaker 5: and say, hey man, this is a big play. Let's

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Speaker 5: let's talk about what we like. What ball do you

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Speaker 5: like here? What formation are you? Are you most comfortable

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Speaker 5: out of? They did not nothing, and they rushed to it,

655
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Speaker 5: and the second down in the drive before goes to Yoshi.

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Speaker 5: Can't get any separation, and then the biggest play of

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Speaker 5: the year goes to Yoshi and Jamar. As professional as

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Speaker 5: Jamar said, he talked about the fourth quarter. He said,

659
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Speaker 5: T and I were getting doubled. Yoshi had single coverage.

660
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Speaker 5: They were sending blitzes. What do you want us to

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Speaker 5: do well? That goes back to the whole Tampa two

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Speaker 5: thing from years ago. Either figure out a way to

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Speaker 5: not allow them by formations to double team everybody, or

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Speaker 5: have a receiver ready that can win a one on

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Speaker 5: one battle, whether that's Mitchell Tinsley or whether it's Jermaine

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Speaker 5: Burton who you drafted to be the guy I can't.

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Speaker 5: He already had a Yoshi already had a problem with

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Speaker 5: drops and he's not getting separation right, and then that's

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Speaker 5: that's the ball in his hands on fourth and nine,

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Speaker 5: Fourth and nine, staggering with a time out in your pocket, staggering.

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Speaker 2: So yes, we're gonna talk about the defense. But the

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Speaker 2: last two offensive possessions some of the most mind boggling

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Speaker 2: play calling I've ever seen. And when they punted it

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Speaker 2: after the three and out the second to last possession,

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Speaker 2: you knew it was gonna come down to, Okay, how

676
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Speaker 2: much time did the Bengals have and can they execute?

677
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Speaker 2: Because the defense yet again couldn't get a stop.

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Speaker 5: Even if you take three minutes on that second to

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Speaker 5: last possession. The only way the Jets are scoring is

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Speaker 5: if They're in the semblance of their offense where the

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Speaker 5: running game was still alive. They weren't gonna go down

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Speaker 5: if they needed it, and justin fields do five step

683
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Speaker 5: drops and throw the ball fifteen yards down the field.

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Speaker 5: They played right into the hand of the worst team

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Speaker 5: in football. And again, I know you addressed it season

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Speaker 5: on the line quarterback that had been benched and criticized,

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Speaker 5: top two players out ring of honor game. And oh,

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Speaker 5: by the way, you were coming off a mini by

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Speaker 5: did you see the Jay Morrison many by tweet? Yes,

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Speaker 5: I did, Oh intent, how how is that possible? And

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Speaker 5: this one the most embarrassing of them all, coming against

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Speaker 5: a team that had not won a game in the

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Speaker 5: National Football League in Mile hosted the Carolina Panthers the

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Speaker 5: week before and scored six points.

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Speaker 2: And had negative ten yards passion.

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Speaker 5: Bristall had eleven rushes for thirty eight yards.

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Speaker 2: In their game in London.

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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one away from four o'clock, we are late. It's

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Speaker 2: the Tony and Moe Football Show where at twin Peaks

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Speaker 2: Bengals licking their wounds in the aftermath of the worst

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Speaker 2: loss of the Zach Taylor era thirty nine thirty eight

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Speaker 2: at the hands of the previously winless New York Jets,

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Speaker 2: but they quickly turned their attention to Sunday's tilt against

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, who were beaten by the Ravens yesterday

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Speaker 2: at one o'clock on Sunday Live on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Bengals will not have a special team's a Shaka Heyward

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Speaker 2: for the next four weeks at least, because he is

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Speaker 2: a fractured fibula. Monday Night Football Tonight, no Jane Daniels

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Speaker 2: for the Washington Commanders. They take on Kansas City. That

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Speaker 2: game is on ESPN fifteen thirty tonight at the Soccer

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Speaker 2: Stadium on the West End of Cincinnati. FC Cincinnati host

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Speaker 2: Columbus Game one of their best of three MLS Cup

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Speaker 2: Playoffs series. Starts at six forty five. You can listen

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, it's Game three of the World Series

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Speaker 2: between the Blue Jays and Dodgers. Series tied at the

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Speaker 2: game apiece. Max Scherzer throws for Toronto. Tyler Glass now

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Speaker 2: for La. It is a fourteen from four o'clock TONI

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Speaker 2: and MO Football Show. We're broadcasting from Twin Peaks in Florence.

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Speaker 2: We will be at the Westchester location next week, by

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Speaker 2: the way, and we're gonna talk extensively about the defense

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Speaker 2: and what's gone wrong and try to find a fix

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Speaker 2: and then talk about where we go beyond twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It would help if they could cover a kick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Jets last three drives started at the thirty four

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Speaker 2: yard line, forty yard line, and forty two yard line.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not giving anybody a pass, but you're making

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Speaker 2: a hell of a lot easier for an offense going

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Speaker 2: up against your bad defense when you allow them to

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Speaker 2: start their drives in good field position.

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Speaker 5: It's just things that you don't see good teams doing.

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Speaker 5: They're secure in their coverage teams, they're secure in their

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Speaker 5: play everything that the Bengals do, it just creates issues.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's a comedy of airs one after the other.

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Speaker 5: When when when they need a big play they can't

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Speaker 5: get it. When they need to go get points, they

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Speaker 5: don't do it. When they need to get a stop,

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Speaker 5: third down, fourth down, they can't do it. It's it's just

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Speaker 5: it's so many things that add up. And again that

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Speaker 5: that to memo, like, we'll talk about it today, Duke

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Speaker 5: Tobin is going to be talked about today and rightfully

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Speaker 5: so oh yeah, but you know I've heard people say today, well,

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Speaker 5: you're you're so hard on Zach, but you scored thirty

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Speaker 5: eight points. I said, yes. Offense to me has been

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Speaker 5: an issue at times. But when a team doesn't tackle,

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Speaker 5: and when a team can't get a pass rush, and

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Speaker 5: when a team is not sound fun und mentally in

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Speaker 5: any three phases, that's a reflection on poor coaching. Zach

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Speaker 5: Taylor's the head coach, yep. And if that stuff's out

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Speaker 5: of line, then give up play calling duties to be

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Speaker 5: a head coach and spend more time worrying about your

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Speaker 5: defense and your special teams unit. You are a reflection

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Speaker 5: of the product that's on the field, whether it's right

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Speaker 5: or wrong, whether it's fair. Because the personnel you have

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Speaker 5: and maybe you got one hand tied behind your back.

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Speaker 5: You're the head coach. It is a reflection on you

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Speaker 5: based on how your team plays. I've criticized the offense

764
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Speaker 5: for a while, yes, but when the defense doesn't show up,

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Speaker 5: that's not just like oh that's all that's all or

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Speaker 5: all on al Golden. That's a reflection of you. That's

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Speaker 5: the guy you brought in.

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Speaker 2: They scored thirty eight points and fine, Zach has a

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Speaker 2: hand in that. By the way, I think we've both

770
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Speaker 2: gone out of our way to talk about the role

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Speaker 2: of coaching and getting Joe Flacco up to speed. Number One,

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Speaker 2: the coach is in charge of game and clock management.

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Speaker 2: We just outline. You just outlined how that could have

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Speaker 2: been better. Number two, These are his coaches, yep, this

775
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: is his team, this is his staff. He certainly has

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Speaker 2: a say in the player personnel part of things. He's

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Speaker 2: the head coach of the football team. And so sorry, no,

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Speaker 2: he's not the defensive coordinator. His team keeps not winning.

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Speaker 2: You are, And I think he would be the first

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Speaker 2: to admit, subject to whatever criticism comes your way.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And yes, so like this, I know what happens. I've

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Speaker 2: done this long enough. It's well, make sure you blame

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Speaker 2: this person too. We'll make sure you blame this person.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, nobody will be spared. But at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, the roster itself isn't good enough. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like we can acknowledge that, but also acknowledge

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Speaker 2: that within the framework of the roster the head coach

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Speaker 2: was given, he's not doing a great job.

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Speaker 5: The way to put it, does every successful NFL team

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Speaker 5: have an elite roster?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, So if you don't have an elite roster,

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Speaker 5: what do you have to have advantages in the coaching game. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: what it feels like to me is for years, Joe

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Speaker 5: Burrow has had to be the hero. Offenses had to

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Speaker 5: outscore teams and everything gets put on that plate. And

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Speaker 5: now that he's not in there, the full picture is

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Speaker 5: more exposed and they just don't have matchup wins in

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Speaker 5: their coaching stat Like, again, I know we've done this before.

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Speaker 5: When's the last game you've went into and said they

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Speaker 5: got this, not because what's eleven on eleven, but scheme

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Speaker 5: coaching that they have a competitive advantage in this. They

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Speaker 5: just don't have that.

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Speaker 2: How many teams front office if Zach Taylor were available, right,

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Speaker 2: would swap out their coach for Zach as a head coach?

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Speaker 2: How many teams would go we have to jump to

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Speaker 2: the front of the line to hire him. I just

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Speaker 2: don't believe there's that many. And I can't speak for you, Tony.

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Speaker 2: I know I have gone out of my way to

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Speaker 2: point out what I feel like. Zach Taylor has had

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Speaker 2: a hand in the Bengals success, including just last week.

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Speaker 2: But we're six and a half years into this, yep,

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Speaker 2: and I still feel like most people who follow the league,

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Speaker 2: who cover the league, and my guess is work in

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Speaker 2: the league, have lukewarm feelings about Zach Taylor right.

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Speaker 5: Right, And when things like we just watched happen that

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Speaker 5: goes back, that's a reflection on the head coach. When

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Speaker 5: the team plays like that and that poorly, it's a

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Speaker 5: reflection on the head coach. And the problem is if

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Speaker 5: you're blaming the head coach and they're just not personnel,

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Speaker 5: we don't get to hear from him, but once or

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Speaker 5: twice a year. Duke Tobin also gets it as well.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Next week is the bye. There are gms

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Speaker 2: who talk during the bye. Duke Tobin typically does not.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a period of time where a

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Speaker 2: lot of folks like to hear from him. We will see.

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Speaker 2: It's eight away from four o'clock road, Twin Peaks in Florence.

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Speaker 2: A lot more to come between now and six o'clock

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes after four o'clock. It's the Tony and Mo

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Speaker 2: Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeger with the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer Tony Pike. We did start the show by

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Speaker 2: talking about the Bearcats, because winners go first.

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Speaker 5: I'll put that to Bet.

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Speaker 2: I have congratulated you publicly and privately three different times,

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Speaker 2: four different times, because this is the first show we've

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Speaker 2: done together here since your induction over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations great, well do it celebration and you talto probably okay,

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Speaker 5: probably celebrate something like that.

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Speaker 2: Winners first, Winners first. We'll get back to the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: coming up. And just to get just a bit but

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Speaker 2: I I did put the kaibash on calling it the

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00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: what it's worth. Yeah, whatever you want to name it,

867
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Duke Tobin, I don't know, man. Look

868
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Any any amount of heat that Zach

869
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: Taylor is getting is earned and deserved. And I'll say

870
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: the same thing about Al Golden. He was hired to

871
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: coach this defense. It's not working. Golan, Sorry, Al Golan,

872
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: Uk Tobin. I don't want him picking next year's players.

873
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 5: Can you can't? Like we've talked about the offensive deficiencies,

874
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: we'll talk about the defensive deficiencies as we go. Who's

875
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: in charge of putting the roster together? K Tobin offensive

876
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: personnel decisions, Jermaine Burton offensive lineman. How that's been constructed.

877
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 5: But to me, it's so much worse on the defensive

878
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 5: side of the ball. Since twenty twenty two, these are

879
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: the top one hundred draft picks that they've spent on defense.

880
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 5: Let me give you the list. Dax Hill, Cam Taylor,

881
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: Britt Zach Carter, Miles, Murphy, DJ Turner, Jalen Battle, Chris Jenkins,

882
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 5: McKinley Jackson. If you forget about mckilley, Jockson, he's the

883
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 5: guy that's a healthy.

884
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: Scratch every who's mckilly Jackson.

885
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, top one hundred drafts, interior defensive line Shamar Stewart

886
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 5: has made one total tackle in his time as a Bengal,

887
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 5: and then Demetrius Knight, Joseph osaij Just outside of that,

888
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 5: like when you draft a guy in the top one hundred,

889
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 5: you have to hit. Yes, how many of those guys

890
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: are stone cold locks right now?

891
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: DJ Turner has trended in the right Who else? So

892
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: it's been an abject failure.

893
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: So when you are going to pay Joe Burrow, and

894
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 5: you're gonna pay Jamar Chase, and you're gonna pay t Higgins,

895
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 5: it's vital that you do what land your draft picks.

896
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: Go look at what Tampa Bay's done and how they've

897
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 5: built their roster. And I'm not asking to be Tampa,

898
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 5: but can you be better than that list? Like you are?

899
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 5: I can't waiter rate enough. You get into the fourth

900
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 5: and fifth round, maybe you find a steal that's awesome. Yeah,

901
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 5: you're drafting in the first and second round to get

902
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: dudes to impact your team right away and help make

903
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 5: up the gap for those rookie contracts. Who of those

904
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: players can you go to? What can you rely on?

905
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: Right now. I listened to Jalen Battle after the game

906
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: yesterday after they gave up thirty nine to the Jets

907
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 5: and say, we need to figure out who the leader

908
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 5: on defense is gonna be. Guess what I went, I

909
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: went through the roster. I'm still trying to look at

910
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 5: the leader. Is it Logan Wilson who wants out of here?

911
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 5: Is that who you look to? Is it rookies, Barrett Carter,

912
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: Demetrius Knight, Is it Geno Stone? Is it Dax Hill?

913
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: With Geno Stone has said he can do it, he

914
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: can be the guy?

915
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: Great is Miles Murphy? Cam Taylor Britt went from being

916
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 5: a healthy scratch to play in seventy six percent of

917
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: the snaps? Is he the guy? Is it Trey Hendrickson?

918
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 5: Because we spent all offseason saying he's really not that guy?

919
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: Right?

920
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: Who's a leader?

921
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 6: Like?

922
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 5: Who who's the guy that's? Like?

923
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: Guys, what are we doing? I don't care enough. I

924
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: don't care about leaders. I care about guys who can play.

925
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: They don't have they don't have talented guys like.

926
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you get enough guys who can play,

927
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 2: a leader will emerge, A leader will will step up.

928
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: But like, what they're gonna have to do to fix

929
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: this is not gonna be what they did in twenty twenty.

930
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one were they just threw a bunch

931
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: of money at the defense. I don't want to say

932
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: I could have done that, but they went and said

933
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: to DJ Reader, hey man, we're gonna make you the

934
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: highest paid nos tackle in the history of the sport.

935
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah they did, and everybody said, man, they're overpaying. My

936
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: take on it was you have to, Yeah, you gotta

937
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: overpay to get guys here. Also, you have a quarterback

938
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: under a rookie contract, so overpay. By the way, it worked,

939
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: throw a lot of money at Trey Hendrickson.

940
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: Didn't want to throw at Jesse Bates and they're still

941
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 5: reeling from that.

942
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: But like in twenty twenty one, they built that Super

943
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: Bowl defense, the defense that was good for back to

944
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: back AFC Championship games. It was throw money at it

945
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: because offense, Burrow's cheap chase is cheap. Mixon wasn't. But

946
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: Burrow's cheap chase is cheap, Higgins is cheap. The offensive

947
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: line from twenty twenty one cheap, So we could just

948
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: throw money at the defense. So we could throw money

949
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: at Judoba Woozier and throw money at Trey Hendrickson, and

950
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: throw money at Von Bell, and throw money at Mike

951
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: Hilton and throw money at DJ Reader. You can't do

952
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: that now. So since they can't throw money at the defense,

953
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: what do they have to do? They have to draft, Well,

954
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: they have to dress. They draft strategically and make smart

955
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: free agent acquisitions, not like Geno Stone. I don't trust

956
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin to do it like it's Folks will say, well, yeah,

957
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: but Duke was Executive of the Year. What he did

958
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: to build those defenses cannot be what he does moving forward.

959
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: The way the defense is rebuilt is the way that

960
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin has put together this defense, which is atrocious.

961
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: So suddenly he's gonna turn into a great drafter. Suddenly

962
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna turn into somebody who could take all these

963
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: draft choices and turn them into dudes who can make

964
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: an impact immediately on defense. And by the way, immediately matters.

965
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: You're trying to win a Super Bowl in the Joe

966
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: Burrow window. So I can't look in next year's class

967
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: and go, well, goalie gee, if they draft some defensive players,

968
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: you know those guys will be really good by the

969
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: time we get to, like, I don't know, twenty twenty nine.

970
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't trust Duke Tobin to do this.

971
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: That's the problem. So many people are like, well, they're

972
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 5: gonna have to draft defense, right, so you trust him

973
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 5: the draft in No, I don't either. So you said

974
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 5: earlier that you could throw money at you could have

975
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 5: done just as good of a job as Duke Tobin

976
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: did in this offseason. Honestly, do anything, right, Where are

977
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: they better at this year than last year?

978
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: You're not. He didn't do anything we had.

979
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: Talked into, Shamar Stewart. Meanwhile, Jehad Campbell is grated out

980
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 5: of Pro Football Focus as an eighty three right now

981
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: in eighty three, but we didn't. We wanted Demetrius Knight

982
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 5: and Barrett Carter. Those are the linebackers in the future,

983
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: Shamar Stewart. Don't look at the production in college, just

984
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: look at the rawle ability because their idea is draft

985
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: and developed. They miss in the draft and they don't

986
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 5: develop anybody. Al Golden gets a ton of crap. That's fine.

987
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 5: Right now. The Washington Commanders going into this game to

988
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: night are tied and second the NFL with misstackles at

989
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: fifty six. Any guess how many mistackles the Bengals have

990
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 5: eighty one? So is Al Goldon? Is he the one

991
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: that has to get these guys in position and then

992
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: teach them how to tackle at the NFL level. They're

993
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 5: just not good players. I'm sorry. Barrett Carter and Demetrius

994
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 5: Knight aren't good. Shamar Stewart is athletic, He's not a

995
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 5: good player. You are filled with young bad players, but

996
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 5: they they're testing numbers were great. You know, you sleep

997
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 5: on some of the production numbers. Justin Fields had been

998
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 5: sacked twenty two times going into yesterday, and their offensive

999
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 5: line stinks. He got touched once, didn't get sacked. So

1000
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: you know what you couldn't do. Couldn't get up there

1001
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: today and say bad matchup. That's just a really good

1002
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 5: offensive line. There's not a lot of teams getting pressure

1003
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 5: on him. No, the bad matchup thing goes out the door.

1004
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 5: That offense yesterday the Jets five undred yards, five hundred

1005
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 5: and two yards of total offense. They've done that twice

1006
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 5: now in twenty five years. So can't rely on bad

1007
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: matchups from yesterday. They were owing seven, but a good

1008
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 5: and seven Oh yeah, we did the pregame year at

1009
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 5: you're Zach Taylor talking to this team's better than what

1010
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 5: their paper, that their record has shown. Yeah, they can't draft,

1011
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: they can't develop, They've missed on so many guys, and

1012
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 5: and that was a that was an issue last year.

1013
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 5: And instead of like burrowing in even even further and

1014
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 5: figuring this thing out, they got somehow worse right now,

1015
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: thirty one point six points per game, one hundred and

1016
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: fifty nine, hundred and fifty one rushing yards per game,

1017
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 5: four hundred and eight yards given up all last in

1018
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: the NFL, two hundred and fifty six in the passing game,

1019
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 5: thirtieth in the NFL. They somehow went and got worse

1020
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 5: on worse on defense. Meanwhile, lou Ana Rumo is leading

1021
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 5: the team that that's top six in the NFL and

1022
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 5: points allowed per game.

1023
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: But that's why the arrow does get pointed at Al

1024
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: Golden because the guy that he replaced, yeah, is doing

1025
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: work in Indianapolis.

1026
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 5: Yep.

1027
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: For me, everything you outlined is true. You and I

1028
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 2: talked about it so many times during the off season

1029
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: when when you and I were here for the last

1030
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: show of the season, we sat in these chairs for

1031
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: the last Tony and Mo Football Show, and we discussed

1032
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: all right, the blueprint for the most ideal off season possible.

1033
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: It included you got to get better in the secondary.

1034
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1035
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: When free agency rolled around in March, it was okay,

1036
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: we expect them to address the secondary.

1037
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 5: They did. They asked someone to take less money.

1038
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: When the draft came and went, and we both had

1039
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: all these draft experts on the show, every single one

1040
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: of them. I would ask about safeties, right, guys, that

1041
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: would make sense, Malachi Starks, Xavier Watts, a whole bunch

1042
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: of dudes safeties. We weren't doing that because I was

1043
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: interested in the forty times for all the top safeties.

1044
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: We were doing that because the Bengals stunk at that

1045
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: position last year.

1046
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 5: Ye.

1047
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: Then they asked Ginostone to take a pay cut. Gino

1048
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: says yes, and I wondered, you wanted as well, well,

1049
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: what if he says no, what's plan B. We did

1050
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: that because we watched Gino's don't play last year. He's stunk.

1051
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't have a more semantically responsible way of

1052
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: putting it, and so all right, Duke Tobin drafts poorly.

1053
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: He also willingly ignored an area that was atrocious last season?

1054
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 2: What is it this year? It's not great? So moving forward,

1055
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: Duke has to fix this. Are we sure he's smart

1056
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: enough to know how bad his defense is?

1057
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing so much.

1058
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: Are we Are we sure he's smart enough to actually

1059
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 2: see the problem because it was the same thing last

1060
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: year and he did nothing.

1061
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 5: And today after what we have both agreed is the

1062
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 5: worst loss of the Zach Taylor era, Did it sound

1063
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: like any accountability has been taken. No, we just got

1064
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 5: to fix some things, and you know what, we'll be better.

1065
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 5: We'll get this figured out and and we'll rely on

1066
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 5: this and there's some good things we can take from

1067
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 5: the tape and we can teach from the rest. There's

1068
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 5: no accountability. Zach after the game yes day said someone's

1069
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: got to step up on defense. No one steps in front.

1070
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 5: When an organization suffers what I think is the worst

1071
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 5: loss that they've suffered under the current head coach, you

1072
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: would think there's a level of accountability from someone in

1073
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: the organization, Zach or Duke Tobin that maybe would show

1074
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 5: a little bit of a sense of urgency maybe instead

1075
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 5: of status quo. Duke doesn't talk during the regular season

1076
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 5: and Zach's can approach this press conference like we hear

1077
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: every other press conference after a bad performance. There's no accountability.

1078
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 5: So I ask who's the leader on defense? Where's the

1079
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 5: accountability come from? Duke Tobin? Where's the accountability come from?

1080
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor and Al Golden? There is none? And now

1081
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 5: you just go back to work after that, business as usual.

1082
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: If it's me and I run the club, it's a

1083
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: very simple conversation with Duke Tobin. Duke, why can't you

1084
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: fix this?

1085
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: Right?

1086
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Like if I'm Mike or Katie or Troy or Elizabeth

1087
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: or Carolyn or anyone else in ownership, anyone else in

1088
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: the family. Duke, how do we get here? Why can't

1089
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: you fix this? What? Why? Why? Why should I trust

1090
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: her to fix it when you haven't been able to.

1091
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: We've talked about this with the offensive line as well,

1092
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: Like Duke Toupin's been spending the last decade trying to

1093
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: fix the offensive when's the last year he can't do

1094
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: that either?

1095
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: When's the last time they drafted a no lineman and

1096
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 5: gave him a second contract?

1097
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: Clint Bowen? Yeah, Clint Bowen?

1098
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 5: So who have they drafted and developed?

1099
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: There? Nobody?

1100
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 5: We don't know a fair child's it because he might

1101
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 5: start one game and not start the next. Who are

1102
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 5: they drafted and developing? I hope it's Marius Mims. Well,

1103
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 5: hopefully he gets a second deal.

1104
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: And even the money they have thrown at the offensive

1105
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: line hasn't yielded above average offensive lines. Like like Duke

1106
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: Tobin is in charge of the roster, and the better

1107
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: parts of the roster in recent years, I don't think

1108
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: Duke had to work that hard. Joe Burrow was the

1109
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: obvious number one overall pick in twenty twenty. Jamar Chase

1110
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: might not have been the obvious fifth overall pick because

1111
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: there were very good discussions about Piney Seoul. But he

1112
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna screw that up. He was gonna take one

1113
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: of those guys. The personnel he added on defense to

1114
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: the team that made the Super Bowl. He just threw

1115
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: money at the drafting of guys like Bates and Hubbard

1116
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: occurred forever ago, like the rosters haven't been good, and

1117
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: when they've been okay, they've been bailed out by the quarterback.

1118
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: And so if Duke Tobin works for me, it's a

1119
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: very simple question, Yeah, why can't you fix this.

1120
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 5: Zach after the game yesterday said, what we need someone

1121
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: on defense to step up? Okay, well I'm sitting here,

1122
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 5: I need Duke Tobin to step up. Yeah, I need

1123
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor to step up. I watch I watch a

1124
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 5: lot of football. The teams that are contented, did they

1125
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 5: just magically walk in or do they have deficiencies that

1126
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 5: at times they have to address. Mahomes got bullied in

1127
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. They've addressed their own line multiple different ways,

1128
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 5: found ways to get playmakers around him, revamped the defense,

1129
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 5: Buffalo has found different ways to succeed, Like, if you

1130
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 5: want to be a contender, you have to continuously change

1131
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 5: and continuously evolve, and continuously look to what's next and

1132
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 5: be able to hit on draft picks and develop players,

1133
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: and at times, hell, you might even have to out

1134
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 5: coach an opponent. You might even have to outscheme a team.

1135
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 5: They don't give themselves the ability to do any of that.

1136
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 5: They're out scheming, they're out coaching, they're out smarting. Has

1137
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: been that guy number nine is so much better than

1138
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 5: everybody else, that he'll help Number one is so much

1139
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 5: better than anyone else. What do we need to do?

1140
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: Let them go cook they've had that relationship. That'll keep on.

1141
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: We don't need to do that much. But man, did

1142
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 5: you see Shamar Stewart's testing numbers. Do you want to

1143
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 5: talk about helping the defense? Did you see how fast

1144
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: his get off is? Did you see his forty yard split?

1145
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 5: You see what his vertical was. Don't look at the

1146
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 5: three and a half sacks because we can fix that.

1147
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: He disrupted the games.

1148
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: When when when's it start?

1149
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 5: He has head, He has been in on one tackle like,

1150
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: not a soul, He's just he's found a pile. Yesterday, yesterday,

1151
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: the two players that showed up at the bottom of

1152
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: the box score for the Cincinnati Bengals one tackle credited

1153
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 5: for each. And again that's not a solo tackle. They

1154
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: just jumped on a pile. Miles Murphy and Shamar Stewart,

1155
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: two first rounders, with Trey Hendrickson out in the second half. Yeah, man,

1156
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 5: you see Miles Murphy in person, six', six, fast, Strong

1157
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 5: we'll develop. Him they're. Not so maybe they need to adjust.

1158
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 5: That maybe instead of just looking at, numbers maybe start

1159
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 5: going to production at the college.

1160
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: Life, so but like advance it to next, year you

1161
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: have to do this. Offseason what they didn't do this last,

1162
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: offseason or it's an, overhaul, right it's. Not you know,

1163
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: what we're kind of short in the cornerback, department but

1164
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: we like our defensive. Line we're good against the. Run

1165
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: we can get after the. Quarter this defense does. Nothing, well,

1166
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: no they're not good against the. Run they don't rush the,

1167
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: passer they don't. Tackle, well they're not. Great they're not

1168
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: a great coverage. Team the safety play is stunk Since

1169
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: Jesse bates. Left so we're trying to win super bowls

1170
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: in The Joe burrow era when the window was supposed

1171
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: to be open.

1172
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 5: And you said a team that threw for how many

1173
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 5: yards last week and a? Half?

1174
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 2: Uh was it minus ten In london two weeks? Ago,

1175
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: yeah got. Embarrassed, so, like how if the idea is

1176
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: to win championships next year is year seven, championship, right

1177
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: how are you gonna fix all of that stuff on? Defense,

1178
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: yeah it's not just one or two. Things it's not

1179
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: where you're just, like, ah you know, what we're kind

1180
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: of long in the tooth, here and so they've got

1181
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: to get younger here at, edge or you know, what

1182
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: we could use a bigger body on the, inside or

1183
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: we could just use a little bit more speed at,

1184
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: linebacker or we just don't have enough depth at, corner

1185
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: and so we're gonna have to tweak those. Areas you

1186
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: have to overhaul an entire unit within a timeframe that

1187
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be competing for.

1188
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 5: Championships that's what frustrated me about, yesterday because if you

1189
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 5: win yesterday and now you can talk about can you

1190
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 5: add something, now the conversation shifts more towards are you

1191
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 5: going to move on from? Players and the problem, is

1192
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 5: if you move on from, players what AM i supposed

1193
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 5: to be excited about draft? Picks i'm getting when we

1194
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: just highlighted that they can't, draft they can't evaluate the.

1195
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 5: Talent so let's move on From Trey hendrickson and let's

1196
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 5: acquire picks that we're just gonna take on someone who

1197
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 5: doesn't impact the team.

1198
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: ANYWAY i, Mean Trey hendrickson's dealing with a hip issue

1199
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: and he got blindsided cheap shot of By John simpson.

1200
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Yesterday AND i know we're late for a, break But

1201
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: drickson's damage right, now struggling with his. Health, yeah all,

1202
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: right you're trading for the last half of the. Season

1203
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: that's NOT i don't think going to get you a

1204
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: done return to hear such trade. Value think anybody Wants

1205
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: Logan wilson right. Now think anybody Wants Cam Taylor. Britt

1206
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: think anybody's dying For Orm. BURKS i, mean think anybody

1207
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: wants Bj. Hill ybody want to, say these guys so

1208
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: you could trade, them what are you gonna get back

1209
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: for any of?

1210
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 5: Them and then we'll hear all off. Season but they

1211
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 5: don't just want to make a. Move they value their draft.

1212
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 5: Picks they value those fifth and six round.

1213
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: Picks they may value, them they don't use them. Well.

1214
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: Correct it is twenty four after four. O'clock we're At

1215
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: Twin peaks In. Florence we're having loads of fun. Today

1216
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: this IS espn fifteen, Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1217
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 11: Station this Is football in THE, nati brought to you

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Speaker 11: By Modern Office methods ON espn fifteen, thirty the official

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Speaker 11: home of The Cincinnati.

1220
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: Bengals twenty nine after, Four this IS espn fifteen. Thirty

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Speaker 2: it's The toni And Mo Football. Show moeger With Tony.

1222
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: Pike by the, way Lou Ana romo With Jermaine. Pratt,

1223
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: Yesterday oh his team improved TO us seven and. One

1224
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: there's not a ton of time. Here we have to

1225
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: get back on. Time we just spend twenty minutes talking

1226
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: About Duke. Tobin Al golden still is sitting down in

1227
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: his office, today presumably trying to come up with a.

1228
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: Fix is there?

1229
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 5: ANYTHING i don't think, So like they're just they're such

1230
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 5: a bad. Group like we've joked about. It you can

1231
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 5: make the argument that maybe some of the matchups earlier

1232
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 5: in the season were just tough. Matchups that offensive line

1233
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 5: going into yesterday is one of the worst in the

1234
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 5: league for The. Jets there was zero pass, rush there

1235
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 5: was zero, tackling zero. Resistance fundamentals are. Awful. Right they

1236
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 5: look like a bad football team with not a lot

1237
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 5: of talent that's poorly. Coached that's what it is. Like

1238
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 5: there are bad football, teams but you watch them and you're, like,

1239
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 5: man that team plays their tail, off that team just plays,

1240
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 5: hard or, man that coordinator just makes life difficult on

1241
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 5: you to prepare. For The bengals are none of. That

1242
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 5: LIKE i, said they're a leaderless. GROUP i don't Think Barrett,

1243
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 5: Carter Demetrius knight look good at all right, Now stewart looked,

1244
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 5: Lost Miles murphy just a. Guy Joseph, osai just a.

1245
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 5: GUY i REMEMBER. Tj slayton was going to be brought

1246
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 5: in and that was going to be the fix to

1247
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 5: the run. Defense they get gassed on the ground more

1248
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 5: than anyone else you see leading THE nfl and rushing

1249
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 5: yards giving up a. Game they're just. Bad it's a bad.

1250
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: Team The knight And Barrett carter. THING i don't really

1251
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: have a major issue with what Al golden did turning

1252
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: to those. Guys SHOULD i hold out hope that the

1253
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: payoff from their growing pains will come but not by

1254
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: the end of the season at least NEXT i.

1255
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 5: Don't think you're holding out. HOPE i think that's the

1256
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 5: only thing you can put your your faith, in because if,

1257
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 5: not then what are you? Doing you've already expressed The Logan,

1258
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 5: wilson how you feel about. Him you're moving on. There

1259
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 5: If carter And knight aren't the, guys where's your linebacker?

1260
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 5: Unit how much do we know about the safety? Position

1261
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: that we can't Bench Geno stone because there's no one

1262
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 5: capable behind, Him like that tells you how bad that

1263
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 5: that room. Is, yeah there's no one capable of getting

1264
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 5: time Over Geno's stone in THE. NFL so linebacker's a.

1265
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 5: Question safety is a. Question are they just gonna imagine

1266
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 5: they get a pass rush If Trey henderson's, gone he's

1267
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 5: their only pass rush and he's, Hurt, like where are?

1268
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 5: You where are you putting your hat right? Now if

1269
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 5: you're This bengals? Defense on now or the, future.

1270
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: We will discuss what happened this week in THE Afc

1271
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Speaker 2: north when we come Back Twin peaks In. Florence tony

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Speaker 2: And Moe Football show ON espn fifteen, Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: Sponsorbility it's closed versus. Pause when The bengals And bears

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Speaker 1: battle in the, jungle one THING i know for, sure

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Speaker 1: somebody's getting. Mauled will The orange And black pounce on

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Speaker 1: the wind or will the team from The Windy city blow?

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Speaker 2: getting set For. Sunday The bears Still bears be here

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: for a one o'clock game at the venue originally known

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01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 2: As Paul Brown.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 5: Stadium DON J, Swift, ROMADUONZEI Dj, moore bad, matchup top

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Speaker 5: matchup for The bengals coming.

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01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: In, Unfortunately Shaka hayward is going to miss four weeks

1303
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: at least because he's got a Fractured fibula a nice

1304
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: contributor on special. Teams no real update On trey hendrickson

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01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: one O'clock. Sunday pregame coverage ON espn fifteen thirty begins

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01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: at nine a. M Monday Night Football, tonight it's The

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: chiefs And commanders Without Jaye. Daniels the game can be

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 2: heard ON espn fifteen. Thirty Fox sports thirteen sixty Has

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01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: game one of the best of three playoff series BETWEEN

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: Fc cincinnati And. Columbus that game on The West end

1311
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: starts at six forty. Five pregame coverage at six, fifteen

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01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: and tonight At Dodgers, stadium It's game three of The World.

1313
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: Series dodgers And Blue jays tied at a game. Apiece

1314
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: Max schurzer throws for The. Jays tyler glasnew for The.

1315
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: Dodgers Tony pike is with me as he is Every.

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 2: Monday it's The tony And Most Football SHOW Espn Most,

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: Mondays Most.

1318
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 5: Mondays what'd you make A Lucas patrick's rep?

1319
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: Yesterday that was?

1320
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: Great? Elite, yeah it was?

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: Awesome great it? Out, well, yep let's talk about THE Afc.

1322
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: North one of the frustrating things about yesterday is The

1323
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh steelers lose Again, yep this time at home wearing bumblebee.

1324
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: PRISON i don't know what those. Were pittsburgh loses at

1325
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: home to The Green Bay packers thirty five to twenty.

1326
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: Five up next for The steelers a game against The Indianapolis.

1327
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: COLTS i see a defense that looks old and the

1328
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: offensive line that's not. Good.

1329
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 5: NOPE Dk metcalf's a good. Player Aaron rodgers can still

1330
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 5: throw the. Ball Pat fryermouth when he's not playing The

1331
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 5: bengals looks like an okay tight, end not the best

1332
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 5: tight end ever played the. Game the question the thing

1333
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 5: about The steelers from, me they spent so much money on. DEFENSE.

1334
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 5: Tj watt looks like a, guy, yeah playing no. Pressure

1335
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 5: the secondary look. Soft in my, opinion it's everything against

1336
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 5: what you typically think when of A Pittsburgh steeler team

1337
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 5: and you think about them going into last week's, game

1338
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 5: they are talking about running away with. It they lose

1339
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 5: to The. Bengals they lose, yesterday and doing so yesterday

1340
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 5: at one point they Allowed Jordan love to complete twenty straight.

1341
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 5: Passes that's, unbelievable for like two hundred and twenty five

1342
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 5: yards in that. Stretch i've never seen anything like. It

1343
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 5: that's a bad. DEFENSE i didn't watch the first. HALF

1344
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 5: i went to a comedy, show thankfully last. Night after

1345
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 5: watching The bengals a comedy, show you went to The,

1346
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 5: yeah let me tell you one thing. TOO i went

1347
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 5: and saw In naperghetsi last. Night the amount of people

1348
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 5: we went down downtown to eat dinner before the. SHOW

1349
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 5: i can't imagine how many people were planning on going

1350
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 5: to the Game jets zero to, seven get away in

1351
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 5: and go enjoy the. Show i've never seen more long

1352
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 5: faces at a comedy. SHOW i, mean there were people

1353
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 5: that were just going through it and like the the

1354
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 5: opener actually made a comment, like, guys this is supposed

1355
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 5: to be. FUN i get what happened here. Today but

1356
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 5: there was like people like carrying their jerseys in their,

1357
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 5: hand like you knew that they meant to wear, that

1358
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 5: and they were down to like the WHITE t shirt

1359
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 5: underneath because they didn't want to be seen in their. Jersey,

1360
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 5: Right i've never seen more upset people at a comedy.

1361
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,520
Speaker 5: Show but, anyway.

1362
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: Didn't ate light in the. Mood, yes the good it's.

1363
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 5: So good, man it was, Awesome but we got home

1364
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 5: to see the second half of The Steelers packers game

1365
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 5: and it just didn't just. Know there's no pushback from

1366
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 5: The steelers.

1367
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: Defense, no it looks like it did in the playoffs last. Year,

1368
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,440
Speaker 2: yeah Against baltimore where they just got. Worked. Yep baltimore

1369
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: wins unreal snap a four game losing streak With Tyler.

1370
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: Huntley they beat The Chicago, bears will be here On.

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01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: SUNDAY a quick turnaround for The. Ravens Is baltimore. Back

1372
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 2: they Have miami On.

1373
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: Thursday they're gonna Beat. Miami they Remembered Zay flowers on the.

1374
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 5: Team Derek henry had two rushing. TOUCHDOWNS i think their,

1375
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 5: defense as they get, healthier will play. BETTER i, mean

1376
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 5: they can't play much worse than what they did to

1377
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 5: start the. YEAR i think that defense will play. Better

1378
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 5: they're gonna Get lamar. Back huntley saved him. Yesterday if

1379
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 5: they lose that, GAME i think they're done. Now them

1380
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 5: winning with The bengals loss and The steelers, loss they're

1381
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 5: more than in it.

1382
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: Now cleveland is.

1383
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 5: Not cleveland is Not Miles garrett had five sacks in a.

1384
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 2: Game you know WHAT i heard many, say boy feel

1385
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: sorry for. HIM i don't know he knew what he

1386
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: was signing up.

1387
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 5: For he has ten sacks with nine games. Remaining, YEAH

1388
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 5: i mean he might be a Defensive player of The

1389
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 5: year again on a terrible.

1390
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,440
Speaker 2: Team is the time for them to Let Dion sanders kid? Play?

1391
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 5: PROBABLY i mean it's gonna happen sooner rather than. Later

1392
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 5: austin brought it up. EARLIER i think it's interesting if

1393
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 5: The Dallas cowboys called and, said we'll give you two

1394
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 5: first For Miles. Garrett they already have two have four

1395
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: first round picks next. Year would you give that up

1396
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 5: because you're not going anywhere with The? Browns and if

1397
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 5: you're the if you're The, cowboys would you give up

1398
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 5: to first for the best player on the defensive side

1399
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 5: of the.

1400
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:19,480
Speaker 2: Ball i'm Basically i'm in part parting with WHAT i

1401
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: got to get rid Of Micah. PARSONS i GUESS i would, say, like, Well,

1402
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: mike why didn't you Just Miah?

1403
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 5: PARSONS i still Think garrett is better Than, Parsons like do?

1404
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 5: You but like you would have to, believe is he good.

1405
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: Enough to make that much of a?

1406
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 5: Defense defense is a Trochan their defense, thinks but their

1407
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 5: offense is. Scary their offense can. Score is that enough

1408
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 5: to be, like, man let's get let's get crazy and

1409
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 5: go after this. Thing or do you just say we're

1410
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 5: gonna ride this.

1411
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,440
Speaker 2: Out i'm probably riding it. OUT i, mean If I'm, Cleveland,

1412
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: Yes But Miles garrett had a chance to get out

1413
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: chose not, to so he gets what he. Deserves The

1414
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: browns louse yesterday to The New England patriots who will

1415
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: be here in just a few. Weeks sixteen minutes away

1416
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: from five o'clock where At Twin peaks In. Florence it's

1417
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: The Tonian Mo Football show ON espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports, Station.

1418
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:21,559
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Speaker 9: hour's worth of delays back from seventy one seventy Five

1426
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Speaker 9: east found On Martin Luther King. Drive it's an. Accident

1427
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 9: this is after burning. Place i'm At eazelic with traffic.

1428
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 2: From five. O'clock it's The Tonian Football. Show we're At

1429
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: Twin peaks In florence until six.

1430
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 5: O'clock this is A monday thing during the football.

1431
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: Season it is just Every monday here At Twin. Peaks

1432
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna be. Here the red carpet rolled out for

1433
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: us every single, week and we'll be In westchester next.

1434
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: Week week after that then right back.

1435
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 5: Here, Yeah westchester will be host to our bye week.

1436
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: Edition always one of my favorite shows of the. Year

1437
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: that's always a good. Time and it's it's a double.

1438
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: Bye The bearcats are, off, Yep tangles are.

1439
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 5: Off.

1440
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: Yep what are you doing for the double buye us

1441
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: taking my wife out for her? Birthday? Nice, nice and

1442
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: The bearcats play On friday.

1443
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 5: Night that's. Right that's.

1444
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: Basketball that's. Right might be a basketball show by.

1445
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 12: Then trending in that direction when do pictures and catchers,

1446
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 12: report you, know that's it's always what we, do, Right

1447
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 12: just get us to the next, Yep just get us to, basketball,

1448
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 12: Reds just get us to.

1449
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: Football that's we do.

1450
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 5: Here and, again if you're one out, there that's. Wonder

1451
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 5: we don't mo AND i do not. Subscribe to exhibition basketball.

1452
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 5: Games why we don't talk about?

1453
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: Him, NO i. DID i did. WATCH i watched first,

1454
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 2: half didn't.

1455
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 5: Watch wasn't great just BECAUSE i don't subscribe to the.

1456
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: Exhibition arkansas is going to be really.

1457
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 5: Good, Yeah i've heard that they're probably one of the top. Teams,

1458
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 5: oh you don't want to?

1459
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: Play they? Played they really took that.

1460
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 5: Game. Seriously did you see like The Pat kelsey back

1461
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 5: and forth With bill? SELF i.

1462
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: Did it's, Awkward, yeah, strange weird. MOMENT i JUST i

1463
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: think it's beneficial that these teams play high major, competition

1464
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: play games the COUNT. Yep Kentucky purdue play a game the, COUNTS.

1465
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: Yep John Keller perry Plays cincinnati in the game the.

1466
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 5: Count, yeah they don't want to do.

1467
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: That, oh like play these, games, LIKE i get, It

1468
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: and it's better than athletes in action or surebody playing

1469
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: A d two school play high major competition with it, mattering.

1470
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 5: Yep it doesn't help either when you go to like

1471
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 5: the you, know big time exhibitions and then the first

1472
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 5: couple of games anywhere essentially exhibition. Games. Right, yeah ALTHOUGH

1473
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 5: i do like the non conference with Dating, louisville.

1474
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 2: The cincinnati dating, game is two weeks from. Tomorrow, yeah

1475
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: and then The louisville game's only ten days after.

1476
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 5: That, yeah they'll let's.

1477
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: Go they'll play some teams that people have heard of, it.

1478
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 5: And then an easy start to The big twelve.

1479
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 2: League play easy, start easy. League, yeah it gets closer and. Closer,

1480
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: well what do you.

1481
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 5: In all, honesty we talked about this at the start

1482
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 5: the The Andre Yosi vash.

1483
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: Thing uh?

1484
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 5: Huh what do you do at this? Point because you

1485
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 5: AND i were at camp and every day Seemingly Mitchell

1486
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 5: tinsley was making a ton of, plays so much so

1487
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 5: that he eventually got the nod and made the team

1488
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: when it wasn't even a lock he was going to

1489
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 5: be on the. Roster AND i know it's been criticized

1490
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 5: in the. PAST i think you AND i both Thought

1491
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 5: Jermaine burton had a good. Camp, yeah so, Yeah yoshi's

1492
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 5: not getting separation and he's had a case of the.

1493
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 5: Drops if you're acting in an urgency in other areas

1494
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 5: of the, team on who's getting starts and who's getting

1495
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: benched and how you're handling, that is it worth giving

1496
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 5: someone else a shot at wide receiver number? Three?

1497
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: Mitchell, yes it just.

1498
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 5: Does, like it doesn't make sense why they're.

1499
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: Not what's the? Harm? Correct first of, all it's not

1500
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: like he's Replacing Jamar chase or. Right you still have those.

1501
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: Guys and, again.

1502
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 5: It's always been win against the worst cover guy than

1503
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 5: another team.

1504
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: Has, Right so the drops are one. THING i Need

1505
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: andre to beat coverage that is not designed to stop.

1506
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 5: Him when's the last time you saw him just like

1507
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 5: four yards of separation beyond a catch.

1508
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: And Run Ben ben.

1509
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 5: Forever it's all small window.

1510
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: Throws everybody Likes, andre it's cool story six Round. Princeton

1511
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 2: he is. Stuck he's had some big moments. Here everybody likes.

1512
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 2: Him he's not producing and, yeah and that's amplified by

1513
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: the fact that you don't Have Mike. Gasiki so as

1514
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: much as nobody wants to give The bengals credit for,

1515
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: anything it's not like their defensive issues have come without

1516
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 2: them trying stuff short leashes for certain. Players why can't

1517
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: that extend to the skill spot.

1518
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 5: And they're trying To not like P ryan's getting more

1519
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 5: carries THAN i. Thought, yeah he would, be and he

1520
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 5: played well. Yesterday fifty splits. Work but it's, like if

1521
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 5: they're willing to try it there and then they're willing

1522
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 5: to try it With Logan wilson, snaps but much Like

1523
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 5: Gino stone continuing to, play they're not willing to try

1524
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 5: it at wide receiver. Three give someone else a chance

1525
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: to win.

1526
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: BATTLES i guess The burton thing we talk, About, like

1527
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: if You're Mike brown And Duke tobin's in your office

1528
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: and you're, asking, like why can't you fix this on?

1529
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: DEFENSE i look at him and, go you guys insisted

1530
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: on Taking Jermaine. Burton, yeah when his former college coach

1531
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: was ON tv that night telling, everybody here are the.

1532
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 2: Concerns you either thought we're ignoring those concerns or we're

1533
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 2: gonna draft him in spite of. Them and those concerns

1534
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 2: have kept him from even dressing for a game this. Year, Yeah, duke,

1535
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: Why LIKE i keep coming back to. Him there are

1536
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: so many things that he should have to answer.

1537
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 5: For.

1538
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: Ye it's the long standing and ability to put together

1539
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: a good offensive. Line it's all the recent misses in

1540
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: the draft when it comes to defensive, players and that's

1541
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: this third round. Pick think of what position that player

1542
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: could have played drafted in the third round in twenty

1543
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: twenty four it felt like a little bit of a

1544
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: luxury pick because you did Have chase And. Higgins although

1545
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 2: you thought you were gonna move on FROM T, higgins.

1546
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 5: He was drafted to Be t's.

1547
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: REPLACEMENT a third round pick in year two doesn't even dress.

1548
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 5: Yep like and their fourth round or doesn't either on

1549
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 5: a and THEIR d lines.

1550
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: Terrible so like a, duke how do you have back

1551
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: to back picks that in year two don't even Dress,

1552
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: NOW i don't think with McKinley jackson it was a character.

1553
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 2: Concern there's just performance. Issues but but like there were

1554
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: so many red flags when it came To Jermaine. Burton

1555
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 2: you were really so sold on him that you ignored,

1556
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: him that you ignored other. Receivers, yeah and that you

1557
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,520
Speaker 2: ignored other players who played other, positions.

1558
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 5: Or you, thought, what we could fix. Him we can

1559
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 5: change our, culture but you. Can't our culture is strong

1560
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 5: enough we can change, it but you. Can't but that

1561
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 5: goes to the, Failures like it's one thing to be, like,

1562
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 5: well not a, position like you could use an upgrade

1563
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 5: at wide receiver. Three, yeah THE d line is awful right.

1564
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 5: Now Chris jenkins is now playing less than fifty percent

1565
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 5: of the snaps and McKinley, jackson two guys you targeted

1566
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 5: in the. Draft McKinley's not dressing And jenkins is now

1567
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 5: under fifty. Percent Mike, pennell who you brought out at

1568
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 5: the very, end is getting some of those, snaps. RIGHT.

1569
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 5: Tj slayton is getting some of those. Snaps like to, me.

1570
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: So look at that draft class last. Year it's. Awful

1571
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: your second, Rounder Chris, jenkins his playing time is being.

1572
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: Reduced your third round pick doesn't, Play your fourth round

1573
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: pick doesn't. Play Amrius mims was the first rounder that.

1574
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: YEAR i think we're holding out hope for. Him but

1575
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: the thing is, like that's not an. Outlier we can

1576
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: do the exercise when we come. Back if you want

1577
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: to just look at the last five draft, classes how

1578
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: many of them have yielded anybody that you want here next,

1579
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: year anybody that you want to give a second contract. To,

1580
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: yep how we'll do it when we come. Back it's

1581
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,360
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01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,080
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1609
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: Yesterday bengals lose the worst loss of The Zach taylor.

1610
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,919
Speaker 2: Era we all agree, that, Right.

1611
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 5: Yes the worst loss of. Yesterday, yeah standing by it.

1612
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 5: Today now for those that MAYBE i don't think the

1613
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 5: first two hours were good, Enough i've got good. News

1614
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 5: over the course of the last. Break you AND i

1615
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 5: host today host only. Meeting we, did so everything will

1616
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 5: be fixed, now which is the.

1617
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: Key, yep ignore everybody.

1618
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 5: Else defense only meeting happened with The bengals. Today we

1619
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 5: just had our host only. Meeting we did it in

1620
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 5: the back corner, here AND i think we're ready to

1621
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 5: come out and be better in the third. Hour that's

1622
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 5: that's the.

1623
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: Key, yes that's the. Key how many players only meetings

1624
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 2: did you participate?

1625
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 5: IN i think one with The panthers didn't. Help we

1626
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 5: were bad and then we were.

1627
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: Worse so who led the players only?

1628
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 5: Meeting Matt?

1629
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: Moore, okay what happened in the players only? Meeting?

1630
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 5: Uh more? Accountability we need to be more. Accountable we

1631
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 5: need better, leadership more attention to, detail and then we

1632
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 5: still came out and lost. It it's almost like a

1633
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 5: prerequisite now when you get. Embarrassed, LIKE i wouldn't be

1634
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 5: surprised if a coach of a position group on defense was, like,

1635
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 5: hey you guys should have a player's only, meeting but

1636
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 5: cut us out of. It you guys need to, talk

1637
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 5: because what are you starting to? Hear you listen To

1638
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 5: Jamar chase at all post? Game I'm i'm an offensive.

1639
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 5: PLAYER i can't answer for the. Defense but Mar chase

1640
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 5: also said a bunch Of i'm not the head coach

1641
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 5: as the head, coach.

1642
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: And by the, WAY i have no issue with any

1643
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: of those. ANSWERS i love all of.

1644
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 5: That, Meanwhile Jalen battle on the defensive side, said, well

1645
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,839
Speaker 5: we need a leader over. HERE i don't know who that. Is, okay,

1646
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: well maybe maybe they had a meeting today and they

1647
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 5: voted on a.

1648
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: Leader Wasn't Trey Hendrickson, like wasn't he want to be a. Captain,

1649
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: yeah what happened to? THAT i, mean did he just

1650
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 2: like being out there for the coin?

1651
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 5: Flip that's a big part of.

1652
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: IT i mean that was a thing this. Summer ray

1653
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: wants to be, captain. YEP i mean he is the

1654
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: most accomplished player on the. Defense he's one, of if

1655
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 2: not the oldest player on the. Defense. Yeah, Like i'm

1656
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 2: not trying to pick On, trey who's been a terrific,

1657
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Player but you wanted that, Captaincy my, man in this

1658
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: kind of when you gotta assume some of those, captains.

1659
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 5: He just wants that captaincy when things are going. Well you,

1660
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 5: know it's easy to be captain of the. Ship when

1661
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 5: the sea is, calm those waters get rough nowy they

1662
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 5: can't find can't find a. Captain that's when peopletart. JUMPING

1663
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 5: i think that's what happened. TODAY i think they voted

1664
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:29,879
Speaker 5: on a on a defensive.

1665
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: Leader now do we know about the ping pong? Table great,

1666
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: question because as has been well, Documented.

1667
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 5: Ravens took it out and they won.

1668
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Right as has been well documented over the, years this

1669
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: league is just a constant cycle of teams adding a

1670
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: ping pong table because they needed to build camaraderie, yea

1671
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: or taking out the ping pong table because too much

1672
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: business like enough in the locker. Room, yeah so what

1673
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 2: do we know about the status of The bengals ping pong.

1674
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 5: Table i'll just say this and we joke about. This

1675
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 5: if you ever want something to, change it has change

1676
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 5: at the leadership. Level Duke, Tobin Zach. Taylor that's why

1677
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 5: today we started this show and we played The Zach

1678
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 5: taylor press. Conference nothing was. Different it's, like If i'm a,

1679
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 5: player what tone is being sent to set today about?

1680
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 5: Yesterday Because zach's messaging is we just got to get

1681
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 5: back to. Work if that's the, message nothing's going to

1682
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 5: change because it shouldn't be just getting back to. Work

1683
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 5: it should be yesterday is not good enough and we

1684
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 5: have to figure it. Out the players have to figure it.

1685
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 5: Out that's our. Priority not we'll watch the. Tape we'll

1686
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 5: see what. Happens like that is not everyone's looking to

1687
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 5: you that this team is leaderless on the defensive side

1688
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 5: of the, ball and your best remaining offensive player is, saying,

1689
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 5: WHAT i don't play defense and you asked the head coach.

1690
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 5: That so everyone's looking to you and it's just a.

1691
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 2: Well, Okay so when before The bengals went To, pittsburgh

1692
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: one of the things a lot of us, wondered Or

1693
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: pittsburgh came, here one of the things a lot of

1694
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: us wondered was if they lose this, game then do

1695
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: things start to? Splinter five straight, losses lose in prime time,

1696
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: season spiraling out of? Control is that when things begin to.

1697
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Fracture because the one good thing you could say About

1698
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Zach taylor is that has never really. Happened even his

1699
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: worst teams in twenty nineteen and twenty, twenty you never

1700
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 2: got the sense that the locker room was falling. Apart

1701
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: there were dudes Like Carlos dunlap who simply didn't want

1702
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: to be, here but they moved on very. Quickly but

1703
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 2: a dynamic like this where you have an offense that

1704
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: at least right now is performing well enough to, win

1705
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: and its performances are wasted like last year's performances were,

1706
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 2: wasted it's just human. Nature and you AND i talked

1707
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: about this in the First, town where you were on

1708
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: a team that as great as you guys were toward

1709
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: the end of your senior, Year, yeah the defense was

1710
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 2: not very. Good now it wasn't costing you, games.

1711
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 5: Right BUT i still even in that, sense locker room's

1712
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 5: a little bit. Divided you're you're not talking as, much

1713
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 5: it's not as, fun.

1714
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like a. Team it feels like two.

1715
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 5: Differents you can Think Jamar chase says that after the

1716
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 5: game yesterday and then comes in today, like, Hey jalen

1717
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 5: battle you want to play ping? Pong, like, no there's

1718
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 5: a there's a tension.

1719
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: Now SO i guess WHAT i wonder is does that

1720
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: start to become a? Thing and if? Not, now like

1721
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: when does it become a? Thing if this continues and

1722
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: then and then what does that say about the head?

1723
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Coach if not only they can't keep the defense from being,

1724
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: terrible but he can't keep the locker room.

1725
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 5: Together it has to become a, thing, because LIKE i,

1726
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 5: said it's already, starting like you're already starting to be

1727
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 5: able to read between the lines a little. BIT i

1728
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 5: thought What Jamar chase, said, like, hey they're, blitzing they're doubling,

1729
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 5: me they're doubling. Tea we got to win one on one. Battles,

1730
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 5: yeah if that's, not, hey e on ract to. You

1731
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 5: you've got to win those. BATTLES i don't know what.

1732
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 5: Else so if that, continues it's much like we talked

1733
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 5: about last. Week you got a guy In genostone that's been,

1734
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 5: awful But Cam Taylor britt was benched offensive linemen or

1735
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 5: bench like you are holding some accountable but others. Not

1736
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 5: you have to have everyone have that same level of,

1737
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 5: accountability especially if they're not. Producing but, that to me

1738
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 5: is why The yoshivosh thing is. Intriguing tinsley was balling

1739
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 5: when he got the. Opportunity burton we'll talk, about was

1740
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 5: picked in the third round of the twenty twenty FOUR Nfl.

1741
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 5: Draft those guys are just sitting there while you're still

1742
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 5: Running Yochi vosh out. There there are safeties on this

1743
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 5: team that are still sitting there that are not playing

1744
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 5: Over Geno. Stone so as a, Player i'm sitting back

1745
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 5: if my job was up for, grabs And i'm, like,

1746
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 5: well why isn't his job up for? Grabs why isn't

1747
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 5: that job up for?

1748
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 2: Grips for, me it comes back to WHAT i would

1749
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 2: be Asking Duke tobin IF i own the, team which Is,

1750
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 2: Duke we've got a guy In Gino stone playing safety

1751
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 2: who's terrible why don't we have anybody? Else because if it's,

1752
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: well we have guys Like Dejon anthony And Tyson anderson

1753
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: and we don't trust. Them, okay why don't we have

1754
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: another option Beyond Geno? Stone why don't we have guys

1755
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: who could play special teams but also might have some

1756
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 2: upside at? Safety, hey by the, way didn't we take

1757
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: a safety in the twenty twenty one? Draft well, yeah

1758
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: But Dax hill is now a. Corner, okay who do

1759
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: we have at? Safety like everything everything you said is,

1760
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 2: right BUT i keep coming back To Duke. Tobin, So,

1761
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay Geno stone has a longer. Leash it cannot be

1762
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: because they think he's been. Awesome it cannot be because

1763
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 2: they think for a guy in his SIXTH nfl, season

1764
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 2: suddenly he's gonna tap into some unseen. Upside it's lack

1765
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 2: of all. Alternatives we don't like PLAN, b we don't

1766
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: like who's behind. Him, Well, duke those are your players.

1767
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 2: Too so you went into this season understanding That genostone

1768
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: was bad last year you acknowledged it because you offered.

1769
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 2: Him you didn't offer, him you asked him to take

1770
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 2: a pay, cut and you didn't have a PLAN, B,

1771
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Duke why is there No PLAN b behind a safety

1772
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 2: who is among the league's worst at his. Position everything

1773
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 2: keeps coming back to those QUESTIONS i would have For Duke. Tobin,

1774
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: duke we've got a sixth rounder From princeton who can't

1775
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 2: get open and can't be relied on to catch the.

1776
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 2: Ball do we not have anybody? Better, well we Drafted Jermaine,

1777
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 2: burton but we just, well wait a, minute you Drafted Jermaine. Burton,

1778
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: Yep well we've got you, Know Mitchell. Tinsley but, okay,

1779
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 2: well then why don't you have a player better Than Mitchell.

1780
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 2: Tinsley the lack of alternatives is a reflection Of Duke.

1781
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Tobin the lack of enough depth to be able to

1782
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 2: turn to other players at nearly every position where they

1783
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: stink is a reflection Of Duke.

1784
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 5: Tobin i'll just keep it at the few picks After

1785
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 5: Jermaine burton Because i'm watching THE nfl AND i was

1786
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 5: reading an article today about the game. Tonight it's like

1787
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 5: players to watch in the game to. Night one of

1788
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 5: THEM o Is luke. McCaffrey luke McCaffrey's got three touchdowns this.

1789
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 5: Year he was drafted with pick number one hundred last.

1790
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 5: Year that is twenty picks After Jermaine. Burton did you

1791
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 5: watch any of The Cowboys broncos? YESTERDAY i. Did Troy

1792
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 5: franklin remember? Him he scored twice Yesterday he had six

1793
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 5: with six catches on eight targets for ninety yards and two.

1794
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 5: Touchdowns Troy. Franklin where does that name? All he was

1795
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 5: picked with pick one h two out Of oregon in

1796
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty FOUR Nfl. Draft that's twenty two picks

1797
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 5: After Jermaine burton was. Taken Troy franklin is helping his

1798
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 5: team win games right, now not just, active but winning.

1799
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 5: Games do you remember last year watching The Tampa Bay

1800
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 5: bucks and, thinking, man that team's. Fun jalen, McMillan, yeah

1801
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 5: he's a root now he's ON ir right. Now last

1802
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 5: year mo eight touchdowns as a. Rookie where Was jalen

1803
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 5: McMillan drafted pick ninety? Two So i'm just looking at

1804
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 5: twenty plus picks After Jermaine burton and there are three

1805
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 5: players that are impacting or have impacted their. Team, meanwhile

1806
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 5: we're just, wondering Can Jermaine burton be active for a?

1807
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 5: Game who does that fall? On that falls On Duke.

1808
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 2: Tobin, well and AGAIN i said this last. Hour there

1809
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: were no shortage of people that, day much less leading

1810
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 2: up to, it when they were doing when they were

1811
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: gathering their. Intel who would say man athletically, gifted just

1812
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 2: not mature, enough, yes just not ready to be a.

1813
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Pro and, Like i'm, sorry this is the adult, world

1814
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: this is big boy. Football we don't have years for

1815
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 2: you to figure it, out like.

1816
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 5: It just we.

1817
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Don't we, don't, man we don't have years for you

1818
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: to figure it. Out and so, again LIKE i, HAVE

1819
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 2: i would have so many questions For Duke tobin if

1820
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 2: you worked for. Me one of them would, Be, Hey

1821
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: i'm watching Andre yoshavas he can't get. Open what about

1822
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: the guy we took in the third, round one of

1823
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 2: our two third round picks, yep last. Year, well he's

1824
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: not doing all the right. THINGS i didn't you kind

1825
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 2: of know he was a guy that doesn't do all

1826
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,560
Speaker 2: the right. Things, yeah and you took him? Anyway huh,

1827
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 2: okay Uh LIKE i could do the SAME i could

1828
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 2: do the same thing in so many different. Positions, correct

1829
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 2: you're allowed to miss on draft. Picks, sure you're allowed

1830
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: to make judgment. Calls that don't go. Right you can't

1831
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: have years worth of. Them you can't have consecutive draft

1832
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 2: classes where you're, like who are the GUYS i want

1833
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: for their second? Contracts you can't do. That number, one

1834
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,799
Speaker 2: your team will. Stink number. Two for a NORMAL nfl,

1835
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 2: franchise you're not gonna have your job very.

1836
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 5: Long and it just becomes Like normal's, like, well you

1837
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 5: know that's just who The rams. Are they draft well

1838
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 5: Good Tampa. Bay they just build their roster. Differently that

1839
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 5: the problem with The bengals is we always talk about

1840
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 5: And i'm guilty of it as. Well, Well Zach taylor

1841
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 5: is wasting The Joe Burrow Super bowl. Window guess who else?

1842
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 2: Is Duke?

1843
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 5: Tobin, yes because these rosters are. Bad yes, again you

1844
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 5: want Al golden. Fired, okay they've got eighty one miss.

1845
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 5: Tackles do you want the next defensive coordinator to go

1846
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 5: tackle on the. Field they're not. Good they have good

1847
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 5: measurables said it, earlier, man they're. Athletically who go watch

1848
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 5: him warm? Up did you see his like? That that's

1849
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 5: what we talk about all the way going back To John.

1850
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 5: Ross you see how fast he is to see his

1851
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 5: Forty you imagine that in this. Offense it's, terrible but it's,

1852
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 5: measurables like we get we get so caught up in

1853
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 5: draft season that we are spun after the pick has made.

1854
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 5: Measurables there's not one person THAT i talked to in

1855
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 5: the first round last year that didn't first, say From

1856
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 5: Mars stewart only have three and a half, Socks, Right

1857
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 5: but then what are you guided? Towards look at his? Athleticism,

1858
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 5: ye look how many plays he? Disrupted look how many

1859
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 5: times he was close to the instead of like being, like,

1860
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 5: hey this dude had twenty eight sacks in, COLLEGE i

1861
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 5: know he can get after the. Passer this dude led

1862
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 5: the nation and. Tackle like when are we like resorting

1863
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 5: back to production at college and not just upside at?

1864
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 5: College burton played At alabama.

1865
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 2: And georgia like twelve different high school, Right but, like

1866
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: when when did that? CHANGE i guess BECAUSE i Said

1867
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 2: nights a.

1868
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 5: Veteran He Demitrius knight's a veteran. LINEBACKER i SAID i

1869
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 5: would do it here as.

1870
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 2: Well i'll go back to twenty twenty. One if If

1871
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Duke tobin's sitting across from me and he works for,

1872
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: ME i Go Jackson carmen's still. Here No joseph O

1873
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: saide do we want?

1874
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 5: Him?

1875
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 2: No Cam, sample we excited about him moving? Forward, No

1876
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Tyler shelvin's not here. Anymore Deontay smith isn't here.

1877
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 5: Anymore those are And i'm looking for these. GUYS i

1878
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 5: don't see him on the And i'll play sheet.

1879
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,759
Speaker 2: From yes limited to picks in the first four Rounds,

1880
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Okay Dax, sai we keep moving him all over the,

1881
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: Place Cam Taylor britt we benched. Him Zachary, carter how

1882
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 2: do we feel about? Him Cordell volson lost his starting?

1883
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 2: Job any of those, Guys, no, dudes you're excited about

1884
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 2: being here moving?

1885
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 5: Forward fail all?

1886
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Right Duke Miles murphy took him in the first. Round

1887
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Jordan battle What Charlie? Jones, OKAY i give you Got Chase? Brown?

1888
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 2: Right Andre yoshabas is playing for us a lot right.

1889
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 2: Now can't get. Open we don't have an alternative to, him.

1890
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 5: Just how he needs to be benched because.

1891
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 2: Ge, DUKE i look at the twenty twenty four draft

1892
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: AND i See Chris jenkins playing time is going in

1893
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: the wrong. Direction Jermaine burton never. Dresses Mckilley jackson never.

1894
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 2: Dresses Eric, halls good. Player nothing you can do about

1895
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 2: that because he got hurt like. That there are so

1896
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,959
Speaker 2: many of. Them and by the, way the early returns

1897
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 2: for the, rookies as much as you give those guys

1898
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 2: the benefit and, Out i'm not Watching Demetrius knight not

1899
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 2: all that excited about what his.

1900
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 5: Future holes did you, say, Rookie he's older Than Brice,

1901
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 5: hall the guy he couldn't tackle.

1902
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Yesterday so it's, like not every pick is gonna, hit

1903
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 2: but in this with their way of doing, things more

1904
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 2: have to hit than not because of who they've decided to.

1905
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:07,839
Speaker 2: Pay and, Again.

1906
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 5: Sark carter had a one on one With Isaiah. Davis, yeah, Year,

1907
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 5: yes completely got. Embarrassed Isaiah davis ran that one for fifty.

1908
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Yards so just to, me it's it's about what you've,

1909
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 2: done but it's about what you have to do moving.

1910
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: Forward AND i we talked about this. Earlier if The

1911
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: bengals are going to win a championship next, year and

1912
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 2: like that's the window they're. In that's why they Paid

1913
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: Joe burrow to win championships and so all, right next,

1914
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,440
Speaker 2: Year burrow's gonna be. Healthy, Cool let's build a championship

1915
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:44,520
Speaker 2: team around. Him Is Duke tobin gonna do that acknowledging

1916
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 2: that we've paid these guys on offense and we've got

1917
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 2: to nail it in the. Draft is he gonna in

1918
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 2: one offseason dramatically overhaul the defense or is there going

1919
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 2: to be another offseason of wait for it just got

1920
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 2: to be a league.

1921
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 5: Average, yeah we just got to get some guys.

1922
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 2: Healthy it's got to be a league some guys.

1923
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 5: Healthy we had some guys that underperformed and now they're

1924
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 5: gonna come back in year two of Our golden scheme

1925
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 5: and they'll be more comfort, comfortable schedule will be easier.

1926
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 2: Us, yeah more more players only meeting.

1927
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 5: Jets with the best and. Seventeen in, football it's always an.

1928
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 5: Excuse it's always something that that's the frustrating. Part and

1929
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 5: and even more frustrating is when you Pay jamar and

1930
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 5: you Pay tea and you Pay. Joe you don't have

1931
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 5: the luxury of you mentioned, earlier all those guys on

1932
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 5: the rookie, deal and when you don't have, that you

1933
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 5: have to nail your draft. Picks and the exercise that

1934
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 5: we just, did who have they? Nailed like you don't

1935
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 5: get credit for Drafting Joe Burrow all thirty two would have.

1936
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 5: Drafted you don't get credit for.

1937
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 2: That i'll give You Chase, Brown i'll give YOU Dj

1938
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: turner because he's trending in the right. DIRECTION i give

1939
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: You evan, McPherson Marius. MEMS i still hold out hope

1940
01:39:58,400 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: That i'll take credit for.

1941
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 5: That still not, positive but you're, yeah not.

1942
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 2: Entirely the rest of, Them like ALL.

1943
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 5: I heard the whole offseason was, like wait till THIS

1944
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 5: Tj slayton and they got, McKinley jackson And Chris jenkins

1945
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 5: from last. Year well just.

1946
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Wait remember this offseason it, Was, hey they need to

1947
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 2: improve the pass. Rush you know what they're gonna. Do

1948
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 2: bring Back Joseph Osaig why, yep why we gotta break

1949
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 2: twenty six after? Five tony And, show let's jump back

1950
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 2: to the college football when we come back ON espn fifteen,

1951
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 2: Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1952
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,720
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1953
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:39,120
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1954
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 11: espn fifteen, thirty the official home of The Cincinnati. Bengals from.

1955
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 2: Six we're waylaid, here so this will be a short.

1956
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 2: Segment tony And Football, show you're former college Coach Brian.

1957
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 2: Kelly let go AT. Lsu they're negotiating what is a

1958
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: final buyout settlement is going to, be but it's gonna

1959
01:40:59,960 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: be in the dozens of millions of dollars. Range he

1960
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 2: reportedly met with the team very, briefly and what he said, was,

1961
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 2: quote love y'all finish the. Season is that more or

1962
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 2: less than what he told you guys when he left

1963
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: after the two thousand and nine, campaign.

1964
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 5: Love y'all finished the? Seat five words more than what

1965
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 5: we were given in that two thousand and nine, Season

1966
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 5: thanks for the? Memories does stay IN?

1967
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 2: Lsu, well that's that's the, questioning? Y'all, yea'all y'all wasn't

1968
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 2: a big part of his vernacular when he was. HERE

1969
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 2: i assume he's going to try to coach. Again is

1970
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: he going to pick up the? Dialects so it's a,

1971
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 2: great great question of wherever he lands.

1972
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 5: Next what is with? That? NOW, Lsu Penn, State, Florida Oklahoma,

1973
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 5: state what's the what's the top?

1974
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 2: JOB i think IT'S.

1975
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 5: Lsu, YEAH i think IT'S.

1976
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 2: Lsu still think there's a ton of talent. There the

1977
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 2: previous three coaches Won National.

1978
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 5: Championships WHEN i watch him Against clemson this, YEAR i

1979
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 5: thought they had a legit title.

1980
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 2: Contender weird politics involved there AT, Lsu BUT i think

1981
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 2: that's still the best. Gig. Yeah do you Think Brian

1982
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 2: kelly coaches? Again? Yeah well do you think now when

1983
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 2: he was, here you, know he kind of made it, known, like,

1984
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 2: yeah it would be cool to be in THE nfl one.

1985
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: Day he's sixty four years. Old do you think he

1986
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 2: has shut that?

1987
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 5: Door probably probably just go To North carolina and join

1988
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 5: that staff Coach.

1989
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 2: Belichick, yep it's.

1990
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 5: WEIRD i don't know there was and like when you

1991
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 5: when you get fired FROM, lsu like what's the next

1992
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 5: career trajectory? Job like what do You you don't go

1993
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 5: up from?

1994
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 2: There Less miles LEFT lsu to go To kansas and

1995
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 2: that failed.

1996
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 5: Amazingly butch was once At. Tennessee he's At Arkansas. State,

1997
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 5: YEAH i Mean luke still got a. Job that's.

1998
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 2: Good, look fickle team scored seven.

1999
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 5: POINTS i was under the seven and a half total.

2000
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: And he's, like you, know you can't score ten if

2001
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: you don't score seven.

2002
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 5: First, yeah it's a good good FOR i mean ranked

2003
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 5: the Post bearcat success For, Fickle Kelly, Jones tupperville And.

2004
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 2: Kelly made a couple.

2005
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 5: Of, times might be the only employed one here.

2006
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 2: Soon kelly made college football, playoffs made A Bcs National championship.

2007
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Game Brian kelly had a successful run in At Notre.

2008
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 2: DAME i think more more than any coach Since.

2009
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 5: Holtz which four of them would you rather? Be right?

2010
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 2: Now who WOULD i rather?

2011
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 5: Be right?

2012
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 2: Now Brian kelly's gonna get like fifty million.

2013
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 5: Dollars and he's going.

2014
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 2: There he's a College Football hall Of. Fame, yeah that's

2015
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 2: so he's had the most. Success mark D antonio had

2016
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 2: a really good run At Michigan.

2017
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 5: State, LIKE i think it's weird BECAUSE i Think kelly

2018
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 5: can be a head coach. Somewhere, YEAH i don't know

2019
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 5: If fickle if his next job as head coach or if

2020
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 5: it's like a. Coordinator it depends on the. Level, yeah

2021
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 5: would he be willing to come back a?

2022
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 2: Level? Right i'm gonna Guess No power For School now

2023
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 2: is going to Hire Luke, Fickle So Kelly dantonio, Now Rick.

2024
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: Minner Rick minner's career trajectory is. Incredible look at all

2025
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 2: the places. Here he was with The Philadelphia. Eagles he

2026
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 2: was At South, carolina he was back In Notre, dame

2027
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: he was back In, kentucky he was In Indiana, state

2028
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 2: and he was all over the. JOINT i think at

2029
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: one point he was being paid by three different schools at.

2030
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: Once Smart Butch. Jones his first two seasons In knoxville

2031
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: were not a total. Disaster, yeah BUT i just don't

2032
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 2: Like butch chumps And Tommy. Tupperville you can have everything about.

2033
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 2: That i'm not his POST uc. Career he was ON

2034
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 2: tv for a season and he was. Atrocious, yeah because

2035
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 2: he put as much work into that as he did

2036
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 2: Being cincinnati's head.

2037
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 5: Coach, well he took the time to learn at least

2038
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 5: the numbers of the players that were which was.

2039
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: Nice AND i don't talk about. Politics i'm not going

2040
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 2: to make any comment about his work as senator or

2041
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 2: his run for. Governor but it's smart, Though like it'd

2042
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 2: Have Tommy tubber.

2043
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 5: Doing broadcast, Now, yeah it'd be a lot easier just

2044
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,520
Speaker 5: to do the. Numbers you have to worry about a pronunciation.

2045
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 5: Guide just call him out by their. Numbers, yeah that's

2046
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 5: what he, did number eighty four there.

2047
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 2: Eating tubbs when he was doing games In. Eske he

2048
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 2: was like grinding. Tape oh, yeah just full. Notebook, yep

2049
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 2: here's all my thoughts based on just all.

2050
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,480
Speaker 5: The number seven is a good, player film, study a good, player.

2051
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: All, right twenty five away from six. O'clock anybody else

2052
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 2: want to dump ON i.

2053
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 5: Won't dump on. Him But Chuck martin's doing what he

2054
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 5: does every. Year RedHawks are four to zh.

2055
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: At that. Level we're talking about THE mac like it's

2056
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 2: some tiny level of, football but there's going to be

2057
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: a lot of. ATTRITION i think on one side of the,

2058
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 2: Ball Chuck martin had like eleven new. Dudes, yeah he's

2059
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 2: a terrific, coach which he really.

2060
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 5: Is could be, SAID i know we're on this side

2061
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 5: of the. River things aren't good For. Kentucky, No Mark

2062
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 5: stupens is not very good right. Now SO i think

2063
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 5: THAT'S i don't want to say it because that's a

2064
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 5: friend of, yours SO i don't want to cross any.

2065
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 5: LINE i think that's a great.

2066
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Job BECAUSE i gotta do is win like seven. Games,

2067
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: yes just it's literally get us to. Basketball it's What

2068
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 2: tubbs thought he was getting, here. RIGHT i can go

2069
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 2: into THE aac AND i can just cruise and win

2070
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 2: eight games a year in that. Conference CAN i win seven,

2071
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 2: games win my share Against louisville, yep and just sell

2072
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 2: enough tickets that people care Until Mark bille takes Over fercious.

2073
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Yep defensively they are, abysmal AND i don't, KNOW i

2074
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: don't know who's more. Unpopular And Mark stoops has had

2075
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 2: success At, kentucky BUT i don't know which fan base

2076
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 2: is more. Exasperated wis constant With thick or In lexington

2077
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 2: or here in The bluegrass Which stoops And mark steps

2078
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: has done a good job. There BUT i that would

2079
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: be the job THAT i, wanted all, Right SO i

2080
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 2: can get my brains beat in By, BAMA, Lsu tennessee

2081
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 2: for what it's, worth even though it's a traditional. RIVAL

2082
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 2: i can lose to all the really big football, powers

2083
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 2: make a bowl, game get to six seven, wins and

2084
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: just kind of keep you interested until basketball takes. Over, yeah,

2085
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:07,879
Speaker 2: dude sign.

2086
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 5: Me up and it pays. Well, Yeah and after being,

2087
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 5: THERE i know there's like The Penn, State FLORIDA lsu

2088
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 5: with the fan base and the. MONEY i Think Oklahoma

2089
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 5: state would be a good. Job, yeah there's a lot

2090
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 5: of reasons you got to turn it around, there and

2091
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,879
Speaker 5: the league is Not, yeah it's it's not an Impossible

2092
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 5: you're not THE sec in The big, ten right winnable?

2093
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 5: League that would be a. Job like MAYBE bk does,

2094
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 5: that but.

2095
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 2: He's in our. Conference get a chance to play against

2096
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,640
Speaker 2: the cool would that? Be it would be? Awesome now

2097
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: we are did he congratulation on getting The hall Of? Fame?

2098
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 2: Oh gosh? No it is a twenty two from Six

2099
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 2: tony And More football show ON espn fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The orange And black pounce on the wind or will

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Speaker 1: the team from The Windy city blow? Away our Beloved

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Speaker 1: bengals coverage Begins sunday at the nine am stream for

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Speaker 2: players only meeting for The bengals, Today. Yep on the

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Speaker 2: defense offensive guys just, said screw.

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Speaker 5: It we're. Good we're.

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Speaker 2: Good don't need a.

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Speaker 5: Meeting they could Have they could have maybe met about

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Speaker 5: the last two possessions that have been, nice or Maybe

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Speaker 5: zach could have met With Dan pitcher or.

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Speaker 2: Something were they watching the previous possession before the second

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Speaker 2: and last possession where they were running the ball so?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah but then that's what The jets thought they would,

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Speaker 5: do so they took that.

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Speaker 2: Away gotcha, okay uh Shaka heyward's gonna miss at least

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Speaker 2: four weeks where they fractured. Fibul bengals And Bears sunday

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Speaker 2: at One bear free game On.

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Speaker 5: Espirty, yeah opened it one and a half up to

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Speaker 5: Two bengals And.

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Speaker 2: Bears could be a lot of orange in the.

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Speaker 5: Stands also, interesting like Is Joe flacco gonna be? Healthy

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Speaker 5: it's a good.

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Speaker 2: Question you, know he went into the locker. Room he

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Speaker 2: was walking. Gingerly Jake browning was throwing like he was

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Speaker 2: coming in before that last.

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Speaker 5: Drive, yep you wonder, like, okay adrenaline gets him through

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Speaker 5: right now you Reassess Trey, hendrickson who knows they're? RIGHT

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Speaker 5: i mean that number could potentially the captain climb the

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Speaker 5: el capy.

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Speaker 2: Time Monday Night football, tonight No James daniels for The

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Speaker 2: Washington commanders there In Kansas city to take on The.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs you can hear that game ON espn fifteen. Thirty

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Speaker 2: you can hear The marktobes radio show at six ON

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Speaker 2: espn fifteen thirty as. WELL Fc Cincinnati soccer tonight On

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Speaker 2: Fox sports thirteen sixty The orange And blue Hosting. Columbus

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Speaker 2: game one of their best of three series starts at

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Speaker 2: six forty. Five tonight radio coverage begins at six, fifteen

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Speaker 2: and The Toronto Blue jays on the road For game

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Speaker 2: three of The World series against THE La. Dodgers Max

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Speaker 2: schrzer pitch which just for his fourth team in The

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Speaker 2: World series Against Tyler. Glas now for his pitch a

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Speaker 2: little bit after eight Pm tony And Moe Football. Show

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Speaker 2: by the, way we will be at The westchester location next,

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Speaker 2: week day after The bengals take on The Chicago bears

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Speaker 2: the final game before the. Bye chicago had won four

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Speaker 2: consecutive games coming into That baltimore loss. Yesterday give me

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Speaker 2: a quick preview of this game On.

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Speaker 5: Sunday Ben johnson has had a better feel of This

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Speaker 5: bears offense over the past couple of. Weeks they sput

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Speaker 5: it a little bit, yesterday but going into that they

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Speaker 5: had won four games in a. Row Caleb williams playing,

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Speaker 5: better but they're going to rely heavily On DeAndre. Swift

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Speaker 5: Roman dunes is becoming one of the premiere. Guys he's a,

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Speaker 5: guy he's a. Dude you can go get. IT Dj

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Speaker 5: moore is a solid number two wide. Receiver i'm worried

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Speaker 5: About Ben johnson creating a game plan against this.

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Speaker 2: Defense Ben johnson versus Al Go Sorry alan's defense feels

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Speaker 2: like a mismatch that worries.

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Speaker 5: Me, OFFENSIVELY i think they'll be able to. Score, yeah to,

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Speaker 5: me like are we exiting this? Game and people are, like,

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Speaker 5: MAN i Wonder Caleb williams is starting to turn the

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Speaker 5: corner because he just drops thirty five on The bengals like.

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Speaker 5: That that that to me is the The warristom, side

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Speaker 5: because This Ben johnson can scheme with the best of.

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Speaker 5: Them so already probably lose the coaching, battle which makes

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Speaker 5: it a tough. Matchup but another tough. THING i can't

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Speaker 5: drive in. Enough how demoralizing yesterday could have, Been like

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Speaker 5: all you had to do was put it away early

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Speaker 5: because Justin fields would have. Rolled, yeah they have their

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Speaker 5: best players are out both sides of the. Ball that's

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Speaker 5: a team at oh to seven that was probably willing to.

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Speaker 5: Roll and then you just couldn't get the. Stop you

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Speaker 5: couldn't put it. Away it's it's such a hard law to.

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Speaker 5: Take and now a better football team is coming in

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Speaker 5: AND i think a better coached football team is coming.

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Speaker 2: IN i think how we frame the rest of the.

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Speaker 2: Season this game Against chicago is not unlike The pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: game right where it. Was you, know you lose this

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Speaker 2: one and it's trade deadline. Sell how might it fracture

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Speaker 2: the rest of the? Choir if you win On, Sunday,

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Speaker 2: well you know it's a bye and you, know come

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Speaker 2: out of the bye and then you, know hit the reset.

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Speaker 2: Button you're beating The steelers once and you're gonna start

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Speaker 2: the basically the second half of the season with, them

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Speaker 2: and you know that's what we're gonna. Do you, know

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Speaker 2: that's what we're going to. Do, Yep we're not doing

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Speaker 2: any of. That if they lose the game On, sunday it's.

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Speaker 5: Done. Mielle it feels it feels that way feel to.

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Speaker 2: Me to safely make the, playoffs you got to get

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Speaker 2: to ten. Wins there's nine games, Remaining they've got to

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Speaker 2: win seven nine games and you could hold out hope

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Speaker 2: that Well burrow's gonna play the last. Three so is this?

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Speaker 5: Defense do the? Math Patriots ravens twice, Right buffalo on the? Road?

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Speaker 2: Right how many wins will it take to win THE Afc,

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Speaker 2: north whether It's, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, cincinnati OR i Still i'll

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Speaker 2: throw In cleveland to be.

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Speaker 5: Here it's nine or. TEN i still think it's nine or.

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Speaker 5: Ten it might be. Nine ravens schedules a lot easier going.

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Speaker 5: Forward sure you Know burrow was.

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Speaker 2: Out of the. Boot burrow was out of the.

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Speaker 5: Boot maybe he's ahead of.

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Speaker 2: Schedule ravens are digging out of a, now a two

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Speaker 2: and five.

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Speaker 5: HOLE i was already ready for that win yesterday win

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Speaker 5: against The. BEARS i was already ready to dive into

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Speaker 5: the bye. Week at how quick Can burrow be back right?

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Speaker 5: Now it's, like don't even come, back take your.

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Speaker 2: Time do you Think Corey dillon enjoyed the game from

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Speaker 2: his house? Yesterday my.

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Speaker 5: GOODNESS i Think Corey dillon's gotta maybe get some help around.

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Speaker 5: Him figure out how confirmation and reservations, work and then

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Speaker 5: maybe don't cuss out the team that honored. YOU i

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Speaker 5: put in your name in the.

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Speaker 2: Stadium or put a front office staffer's number on.

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Speaker 5: Social, media got the. Best i'll just.

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Speaker 2: Say, This Corey dillon's stuff was paid.

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Speaker 5: For, YES i know.

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Speaker 2: That ye If Corey dillon wanted to be. There he

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Speaker 2: could have been there on their don he chose not

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Speaker 2: to be, there and he, chose at least on social,

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Speaker 2: media to take the spotlight away from two people who deserve.

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01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 2: IT i think they should take his name off.

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Speaker 5: The stadium remove.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah, man what he did over the weekend on

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Speaker 2: social Media corey. Dillonization, DUDE i thought that was so low.

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Speaker 2: RENT i thought that was so low. Class he said

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Speaker 2: on social, media take my name off.

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Speaker 5: The stadium and The. BENGALS i, look.

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Speaker 2: Man lots of stuff you can criticize them. For, yep

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Speaker 2: that ain't one of. Them. Correct tony is back. Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: end It Tony pike since he three sixty at, Noon.

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Speaker 5: I'll be back at Three Loeger.

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Speaker 2: Show thanks To Mike mills for producing on Site Taron

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Speaker 2: bland as. Well back In. Kenwood The March's Tube show

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Speaker 2: is next thanks to the sat Of Twin. Peaks, dude

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