1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: It's time for another edition of Mace in your Face now. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Along with college Football Immortality, Glenn Mason, Here's Dan Burrero. 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: Mace. Is this true? 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 4: Barry from Blaine writes, will you ask Mace if he 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 4: can impart to us the feeling of beating Iowa four 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: times in six years? 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 5: Hard to remember what that must have been like? Did 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 5: you do that? I don't remember that four times in 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 5: six that's pretty good. 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 5: That seems like a lot. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: Ask Glenn about the ninety eight Minnesota of Iowa game. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 5: Hold on, let me scroll down here real quick. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: That was here blowed. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: Uh, Hayden Fry's last game. Yeah, we killed you killed 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: him in that game? 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Killed him. 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: You were merciless? Were you running up the score on 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: Hayden Fry? Thought you had a good relationship with him. 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 5: I like Hayden Fry. 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, were you running it up? 24 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Lit? I don't know about that, you know, I still 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: remember what he said after the game. Was that and 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: no one knew he was retiring? That was to me, 27 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: his last game. 28 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 5: They didn't know at that point. 29 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: No, And he came in a big smile on his face, 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: and he and he shook my hand, fum his arm 31 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: around and he says, I hope you win all the 32 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: rest of your games, the rest of your career. 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: And I thought that was a weird thing to say. 34 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is he was going out to do. 35 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 5: Was out the door. What was the final of that game? 36 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 5: Guard forty nine? Who was your QB with that team? 37 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 5: Do you remember? 38 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: Was that? Billy Cochran? But I don't know, Guard, You'll 39 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: find it. 40 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: I know, I'm just asking. I mean, it's just good history. 41 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: So you won three times in a row Hayden's last year, 42 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: the first two years of Farence ninety nine and two 43 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: thousand and then lost five in a row before beating 44 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: them in two thousand and six in the final game 45 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: of the season. Okay, I was at a lot of 46 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: these games. I remember a lot, I was. I yeah, 47 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: I hope, so you remember only a few of them. 48 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: So he won three in a row, but not four 49 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: out of four. Well three in a row like bat. 50 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: And you know, I don't mean excuse some of those years. 51 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: I was really good. Yes they were, that's true. 52 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean really good. Oh man, they could and everything's 53 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: the defense they playing goody, great offense. 54 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 5: Well, did you have any idea you know Farens at 55 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: all when he came in. Were you like, we'll take 56 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 5: care of these guys. 57 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: Who's this guy? 58 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: No, I'm not like you, and that you're not wired 59 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: that way. 60 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: I have proper respect. I judge people after I met him, 61 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: get to know him. I don't make those decision. 62 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 5: You don't do that. 63 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: You know a lot of people say you know that 64 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: Perrero is a jerk. I said, do you know him? 65 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: And they said no. I said, well, if you knew them, 66 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: you didn't even think worse of them. 67 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: You know, that's not that's not very kind. I've stuck 68 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: up for you a lot lately too. I think I'm 69 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: gonna have to stop doing. Obviously, you got a lot 70 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: to make up for, you think, so, oh yeah, well 71 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: I would. I would submit that of the two of us, 72 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: Royce has more to make up than I do. I 73 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: would argue I made up a lot of it by 74 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: giving you this audience that has allowed you to transform 75 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: your image that's in. 76 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 5: The state of Minnesota. 77 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 3: I appreciate that more this I've saved your life. Yeah, 78 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: you really did. I'm just saying I don't know what 79 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: I would have done with that. 80 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: You would you know what. In fact, I'm not even 81 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: convinced you'd still be living here. That has nothing to 82 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 5: do with it. I think I think. 83 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: There's a good chance you have say it wrong because 84 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: you would have just you would just would have would 85 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: have faded into obscurity and you'd have said, I'm just 86 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: might as well leave here. 87 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 5: Now you have reason to be here because of us. No, 88 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: that's nos. 89 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: Grandchildren, that's that's secondary. Yeah, grandkids. 90 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: You know what, I've lived in Minnesota obviously longer than 91 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: any place, and is a me too. You moved around 92 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: a lot, you know, I mean a lot, and then 93 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: you're here, and all of a sudden you realize, you know, 94 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: you've made some friends like it here. Kids are here, 95 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: grandkids here. You need some place, You need a reason 96 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: to go someplace, if you know what I'm saying. Yes, 97 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: and uh, I just wasn't of the nature just to 98 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: pull everything up and move someplace because the weather was 99 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: a little bit better, or what taxes we're a little 100 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: lower whatever. 101 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm not saying I wouldn't have done that. But you're 102 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 5: not Louie, is what you're saying. 103 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, No, I am not Louis. I guarantee that. But 104 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: so so you know what, So now I'm kind of 105 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: one of us? Is that how you say it? I'm 106 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: as much one of us as you will? 107 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: Well, you're well, no, I'm getting I don't talk about years. 108 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: I'm talking to you. 109 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 5: No, let me finish. You are so defensive. 110 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: What I was going to say is I think you're 111 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: you're considered more one of us than I am because 112 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: you coached the University of Minnesota. That will even if 113 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: I've been here longer, I think that will give you, 114 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: in most people's eyes, the edge. I don't know if 115 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: you're ever going to be grandfathered in totally. But I'm 116 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: just saying, but. 117 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: I get out and I talk to the people face 118 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: to face, just not in the airwaves. You know, I'm 119 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: a man of the people. 120 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not sure i'd go that far. Yes, I 121 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: am guardsy man of the people. I mean, he has 122 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: his morning dog Club, he's got his runners, he's got 123 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: buried the vest. 124 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: You want me to run for public office? 125 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: That's true that this isn't a Rubik's cube. 126 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: You love that situation because they all worship you. You 127 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: love You love being in places where you're being worshiped. 128 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: You know what you want to combine there. Sometimes I 129 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: take a lot of grief. You know what, do you 130 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: ever hear the term familiarity breeds can take? Yes? 131 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: I know it very well. 132 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean that's why we don't do this year round 133 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: like you want to exactly. 134 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: People get to know you and all of a sudden 135 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: that respect level goes way down. 136 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 5: Here's your toss up question. 137 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, will you ask Mace this is from six' five 138 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: to one, guy how that happened To minnesota On? Saturday 139 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: did he have any games as inexplicable as that? 140 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: One that's kind of a loaded. 141 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 5: Question yes it. IS i didn't see it. COMING i 142 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: got to be. 143 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: Honest IF i was on this show last week AND 144 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: i was, Saying i'm not a, gambler but IF i, 145 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: Was i'd be taking the golfers Against. Iowa AND i, 146 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: thought because seven and a half or, eight it was almost, 147 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: ten AND i, Thought iowa can't. Score they play good, 148 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: defense but they can't. Score and as we talked before the, 149 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Show iowa was better THAN i thought they. Were and 150 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: even Though minnesota faith will rush the field Beating, NEBRASKA 151 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: i was of the Nature nebraska wasn't a twenty five. 152 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: Team they weren't coming, in and they sure weren't coming. 153 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: OUT i don't know what all the hoopo over that, 154 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: was but you, know it gets down, to you, know some. 155 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: Basics they didn't control the line of, scrimmage offense or. 156 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: Defense and WHEN i watch, GAMES i really am. NONPARTISAN 157 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: i don't care Who I'M i kind of watched from 158 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: it and a lot of Times i'm looking at, All, 159 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: right IF i was still coaching AND i was playing this, 160 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: team what's my evaluation? Now when you're watching as a, 161 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: spectator you're valuing both teams at. Once AND i was 162 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: unimpressed with The gopher offense and defensive, line AND i 163 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: was really impressed with iowas offense and defense. Line the 164 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: other thing that really got me was That iowa was 165 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: defense highly aggressive and. TOUGH i, MEAN i don't know 166 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: how you describe the word, tough but you know when 167 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: you see, It, yeah AND i saw it on THAT. 168 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: Tv, YEAH i totally. Agree this is a follow up. 169 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: Question while The gopher season has been typical of many recent, 170 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: years they, well they pray to sweet the non, conference 171 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: move on to survive against the bottom Of Big ten 172 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: while getting blown out by the powers at the top 173 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: and reach a low level bowl. 174 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: Games is there. 175 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: ANYTHING pj or the university can do to change that 176 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: pattern and make The university Of minnesota the Next Indiana. 177 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: University that's, well first of, ALL i, Know i'd like 178 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: to know How indiana did. IT i, mean that's one 179 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: of the greatest stories out, there going. 180 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: Maybe parallel By. Vanderbilt. 181 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: Me we were talking About vanderbilt and there only have 182 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: one loss in the. Season they Beat missouri last. Week 183 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: it was a top ten. TEAM i. THINK i don't, 184 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: REALLY i don't, know because you would Know indiana better 185 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: THAN i would because you're a lump. There but for 186 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: years they had, glimpses but they were very short and 187 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: they weren't really very, bright with the exception of sixty 188 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: seven With John pott when they went to The Rose 189 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: bowl and all of a, sudden not only did they get, 190 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: respectful they got really good and people weren't giving them 191 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: due credit because they Were. Indiana if they were playing and, 192 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: Scoring i'm saying about a year ago and this year 193 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: and their name Was Ohio state Or michigan Or southern 194 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: cal people would say they're the. Best now they're ranked number, 195 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: Two but the way that they're playing and everything get. 196 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 5: Out they deserve to be number. Two let's stay on. 197 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: Schedule mace is with us for the, hour and let's 198 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: let's try to get some bonus bucks to one of 199 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: our lucky. Listeners fan and two men and a junk 200 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: truck want to give you a shot to win bonus. 201 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Bucks it is our national cash. Contest four. O'clock keyword is. 202 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: Bank go to cafe in dot com and enter the keyword. 203 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: Bank find out If mace would have any interest in 204 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: throwing his hat in the ring. 205 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: For Baton, Rouge. 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: Louisiana that's, Next jody, Writes lshu Job dan Tell mace 207 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: that if he gets hired In Baton, rouge don't put 208 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: tomatoes in your. 209 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 5: Gumbo don't put tomatoes in your? 210 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: Gumbo is that considered For? BOLTON i have no idea 211 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: at are you a great? GUMBOM i don't make, it, 212 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: though order? 213 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: IT i love? It, yeah pretty attractive. Job any? 214 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: Thoughts you Know i'm not interested in coaching any. 215 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 5: Anymore could you create A southern? 216 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: Accent? 217 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 5: Though you think you could because Your jersey? 218 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: Guy but you think you could manufacture A southern accent 219 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: Like Brian kelly? 220 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: DID i don't know why anybody who wanted to do 221 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: That brewster did. It is he from Your jersey? TOO 222 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 5: i know The southern coaching, ACCENT i know. IT i 223 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 5: don't know what's wrong with those. GUYS i don't know. 224 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: WHY i can understand people trying to act like they're 225 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: talk like they're From New, Jersey but why if you're 226 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: From New, jersey would you want to talk like you're 227 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: From louisiana or at some? Point, no here's my. Deal 228 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: louisiana is a great. Job the three previous coach were 229 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: won national champions right you know? Why they got unbelievable 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: players in the state Of, louisiana lots of, Them i'm telling. 231 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: You and but it's not the pressure of the job 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: everything like. That but what's taken place right? Now? DAN 233 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 3: i always, thought you, know you go out and your 234 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: fundraise and get people. Involved and my view always used 235 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: to be with these big time guys IS i want your, 236 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: money BUT i don't want your two. Cents and WHAT 237 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: i mean by that it's fine to support the, program but, 238 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: no you're not going to tell us how we're going 239 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: to run the. Program and what's happening in college athletics 240 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: not just with the, boosters but these presidents and ads 241 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: have let the shoe people the power of, people and 242 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: most importantly. 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: THE tv people in and they tell you how you're 244 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 5: to run your. 245 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: Business and now with the nil with getting, money these, 246 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: guys really rich, guys throw money at program because they 247 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: want to win at any, cost because they're living their 248 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: life through that. Program if they're going to give you 249 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: all that, money they're going to tell. YOU i. Saw 250 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: i'm not saying That. Kelly i'm not saying the reason 251 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: That kelly got fired was just because he lost the. 252 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: GAME i don't think the ad did. IT i saw 253 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: where the governor got. Involved we're going to get that. 254 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: Man maybe the guy why the governor got involved because 255 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: some guy that's given the governor a lot of money, 256 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: says you know, what if you don't get that coach 257 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: out of, There i'm not gonna donate to your next. 258 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: Election so What i'm saying these third party people start 259 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: running your. Job who wants to do? That the other 260 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: thing was people used to, ask And i'm not SAYING 261 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: i ever had an, opportunity but, say, hey did you 262 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: ever have any interesting Coaching pro? Football AND i said, 263 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: NO i really. DIDN'T i, said why money's so much 264 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: better this, Say i'll tell you. WHY i, said because 265 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: at LEAST i get to run my. TEAM i get 266 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: to pick my, COACHES i get to. 267 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: Hire and fire. 268 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: HIM i get to recruit my players and then decide who. 269 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: PLAYS i don't have some guy coming out of some 270 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: other office or a general manager in order coming SAYING 271 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: i want you to Play Billy bob And i'm saying, 272 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: No Jimmy joe is. BETTER i don't care you're playing 273 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: the other. GUY i couldn't deal with. 274 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: That why Does Brian kelly rub from many people the wrong. 275 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: Way because he's? Obnoxious, no he's got and he appears 276 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: to be. Obnoxious let's put it that. Way he's. Not you, 277 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: know sometimes you see some guys and you, think you, 278 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: know there's a there's a. Guy, OKAY i want to 279 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: say On channel five he does the weather. 280 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: LOCALLY i love watching. 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: Him you like. 282 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: Why he's a friendly. Guy you know you see. Geez 283 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 5: it's just you. 284 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: KNOW i don't. 285 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: CARE i don't care if he's saying it's in a 286 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 5: snow array like his. 287 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: Delivery, yesh it's it's he's a likable. Guy, well the 288 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: way That Brian, kelly especially on the. SIDELINE i you, 289 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: know when he was At Notre. Dame there for years 290 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: he was a raving, maniac and then towards the end 291 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: he'd stand there like he was a. MUMMY i, thought, 292 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: well maybe maybe he was taking some medication or, So 293 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: i'm serious making an. Accusation but it was totally different 294 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: because his outbursts were. 295 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: Bad but when you were around Coach. 296 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: Kelly my first introduction to, HIM i was coaching The 297 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: East West game and he had won some CHAMPIONSHIP i 298 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: want to say A Grand Valley. STATE i think that's 299 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: where he. Was and because of, that he got invited 300 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: to coach. Too and you, know you had not, myself 301 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: but you had some who's who's coaching on this. Staff 302 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: Mac brown was, There Larry kocher won the national Championship. 303 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: Miami he was. There prewitt was there From West virginia 304 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: winning a championship down, there and And Brian kelly was. 305 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: There AND i remember the guy, saying who is this? 306 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: Guy you know it was kind of a, no, yeah all, 307 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: right but he could. COACH i mean he won, there 308 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: he won a century won In. Cincinnati he broke New 309 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: rockney's record At Notre dame because he was, there you, 310 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: know long. Enough but he didn't win a national, championship 311 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: so he. DID i think he just people look at. 312 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: It he's not like the weather. 313 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: Guy, no that's a good. Contrast you mentioned the. 314 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: Governor this is just from within the last, hour the 315 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 4: governor of The Great state Of, Louisiana Jeff. 316 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: Landry. 317 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: Quote, NO i can tell you right Now scott woodward 318 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: who is THE, lsuad will not be selecting the next 319 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: coach AT. Lsu The board Of, supervisors as picked by the, 320 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: way by The Louisiana, governor is going to come up 321 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: with a committee and they're going to find us a football. 322 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: Coach how? 323 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: Fitting that doesn't that explain? Everything? Well, yeah WELL i 324 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: would say. 325 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: This, OKAY i don't Know Scott, warder but he was 326 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: AT a AND m when they hired Jimbo. Fisher it 327 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: didn't work out too. Good he probably saw the posse 328 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: come so he. Left he Went. 329 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: Toells you think what it was that that was a. 330 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: Seventy five or seventy seven MILLION i think it was 331 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: the allion dollars. 332 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: Buyout so he rides his pony down To Baton rouge 333 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: and they let him Hire Brian, kelly of which a 334 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: lot of people you know kind of really you, know 335 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: does he fit down? There is he AN sec? Guy 336 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: and now the buyouts fifty four? Million so now you're 337 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: the A. D but if you don't get to pick the, 338 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: coach and what is your? Job what more important job 339 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: could you have as AN A d than select a 340 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: football you, know if you if you fire somebody didn't 341 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: hire a, dud THE ad should lose his, job don't you, 342 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: think no, question what do you think about? 343 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: THAT i just think In louisiana the rules are, different 344 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: and the governor is just, saying, well happy for the. 345 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: Ad it's too important a decision to leave to THE 346 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: ad was supposed to do. 347 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: It IF i IF i Was Scott ordard and his wife, 348 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: says you, know don't think about the redecorating the, House 349 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: i'd say not so, fast. 350 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: Sweetheart his buyouts fifty fifty one in that. 351 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: Range, yeah so. 352 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: The last two coaches he's, hired one hundred and twenty 353 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: million has cost the. 354 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 5: Schools it's. 355 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: Crazy somebody, said who DID i see interviewed just this past? 356 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: Week who's the uh now the national guy who made 357 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: a name for himself covering sec. Stuff who's on his 358 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: stall fine, bump the guy who was still talking about 359 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: running for. SCENT i don't if he's still talk about 360 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: running for. Senate he named is It? Sexton he basically 361 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: said the agent who basically because the question was it 362 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: Was Rich eisen with, him And rich, said how how 363 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: did we get to this place in the? Buyouts and he, 364 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: Said i'll give you the one. 365 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: Name It's. 366 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 5: Sexty he. Said he's the guy who almost on every one. 367 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: Of these. 368 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: Basically is so intimidating and it's such a mismatch in 369 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: his favor over most these ads that he just steamrolls 370 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: them and they ultimately feel like we got to sign this. 371 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: Guy and he keeps asking for stuff and they keep saying, 372 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 4: yes and that he's the guy who has really started this. 373 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: Momentum By Jimmy, sexon it's a great. 374 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: Story he went To. 375 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 3: Tennessee he was At tennessee the same time That Reggie white. 376 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: Was they lived on the same floor the. Dorm and 377 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: obviously sex is a smart. Guy he used to Help 378 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: Reggie white out academically on some. Things you. Know so 379 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 3: Now Reggie white he gets he gets drafted and he 380 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: goes to sext and he, says, HEY i want you, 381 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: hell you're the smartest GUY i. Know help me out with, this, 382 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: Okay and that's how he got. Started and then it 383 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: just you, know it started. 384 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 5: Going and going and. 385 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: Going and then you know a lot of guys that 386 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: he represents in the sec or descendants Of Nick, saban 387 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: and he Represents Nick. Saban and it was in genius 388 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: what he did With Nick. Saban After Nick saban won 389 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: the national championship At, lsure we redid his contract and 390 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: he put in this contract that he would be the 391 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: highest paid football coach in the, country so that every 392 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: time time somebody else got, Hired nick got a one 393 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: dollar more than that. 394 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: GUY i don't know If i've asked you this, before 395 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: because we've probably run the getting you back to becoming 396 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: a coach then into the. 397 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: GROUND i, grant, oh there's no doubt about, it but 398 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: ALL i know you're out of it at this. POINT 399 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: i get that you've moved. On but was there ever 400 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: a point forget the coaching? Part was there ever a 401 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: point BECAUSE i know you have such strong opinions about 402 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: the way these athletic department operations are. Run were you 403 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: ever tempted to go to a, place maybe even it 404 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: wouldn't be a top ten program, early but to go 405 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: to a place to run the athletic. Department do you 406 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: ever have any athletic director interest post? 407 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: Coaching? 408 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: No how come or why? 409 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: NOT i don't because as a football, coach you. 410 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: Know, yeah but you know how this stuff. 411 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: RUNS i understand, THAT i really do understand. That but 412 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: the the commitment that it takes to be, really really 413 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: really good in, FOOTBALL i think probably any place THAT 414 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: i would have gone with the idea that Well i'm 415 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: a football gap right at the football, going but you're 416 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: gonna be THE, ad it would have looked like THAT 417 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: i was Robbing peter to Pay pau all the time 418 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: to take care of. 419 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 5: Football you don't understand SAYING. 420 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: I don't. KNOW i JUST i would have liked to 421 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 3: have done, it BECAUSE i THINK i could have gone 422 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: out and sold the. PROGRAM i think right now that 423 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: the main function of AN ad right, now because of 424 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: the costs and everything with THE nil, man if you 425 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: ain't out there every, day you not somebody, else not 426 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: some board or growth that you, have you out there 427 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: going to the people because the A d just like 428 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: the football coach can open. 429 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: Doors that some guys that's on me AND. 430 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: I l committee and they only know that you can't 431 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: get in that door selling what you're trying to. 432 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: Do that is a full time. 433 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: Job do we? Know what's? 434 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 5: That what's the? 435 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: History how Did alvarez go from being the coach to 436 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: being a d what's that? 437 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: Story do you know the? 438 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: Story, well he had obviously he had great success At. 439 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: Wisconsin he turned the program down AND i, think, uh 440 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: he had opportunities to leave over the, years and he 441 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: wasn't going to, leave and he had an extra. STRATEGY 442 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: i don't know this, right don't. YOU i thought you 443 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 3: were you were you were marketing this. Program you Had 444 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: alpais on. Today we could ask, him is you? On, well, 445 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: well you don't get it done because you didn't. Help 446 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: we're working on, okay working on. It, okay you didn't 447 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: get your job the right. GUARDS i heard, YOU i 448 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: heard you were you were advertising and it was beyond. 449 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Advertising hared you for Being, okay, SUPPORT i got. 450 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: Side that's the Sac SO i think he developed a 451 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 3: strad with those. People Hey i'm going to. Stay i'm 452 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: not going to coach. Forever, uh but, UH i love 453 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: what Was i've got a vision here to keep this thing. 454 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: Going and So i'd like to be THE A d 455 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: and football coach and then IN x number of, Years 456 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: i'm going to give up football And i'm just going 457 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: to be THE A. D reason, being you Think alvarez 458 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 3: could open every door that he wanted to talk just 459 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: WHAT i was talking. About he had a, name he 460 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: could connect with. People, Oh Barry, Alvas Oh i'll take. That, hey, 461 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: listen we need some. Help we did, this can you 462 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: help us out? There and SO i thought that was. 463 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: Ingenius NOW i Asked barry this question'll ta. THIS i, Said, 464 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: barry how's it? Going great to talk about this with? 465 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: Him how's how's? It how's it going being THE A? 466 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: D And he's talked about. 467 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: It you? 468 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: Know AND i, said, well how are the other sports 469 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 3: taken to the now that the football coach is now THE? 470 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: Ad and he, said, well that's really kind of, funny he. 471 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: Said first THING i did WAS i had a meeting 472 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: with every. Coach they love me because when Pack victor 473 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: is THE A, d the only thing he cared about 474 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 3: was football and. Basketball, really. 475 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: Did you ever have a chance to BE A d? 476 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: Here anybody ever come to? You LIKE kb Coachd, oh, no. 477 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 5: You know the. 478 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: Answer, NO i. 479 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 5: DON'T i MEAN i, ANSWER i could. 480 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: Have been a. 481 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: FEELER i don't. Know it's possible you might not have been. 482 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: INTERESTED i got relieved the. 483 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: Duties well, eventually, YEAH i get. That but you were. 484 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: Here how many years are you? HERE i was here ten? 485 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: Years ten. 486 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: Years that's. 487 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: AMAZING i go back and you talk About. Iowa you, 488 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: KNOW i always had two football. Teaches you do since 489 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty? Eight? 490 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Two not quite seventy, Seven, Oh Hayden, fry he was late, 491 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: seventies nineteen seventy, eight maybe seventy. 492 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: Eight it's pretty, impressed that's, right Seventy i'm, sorry seventy. 493 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 3: Eight so but that's still pretty, impressive, right fifty? 494 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 5: Years and then how many d's are they? Had not 495 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 5: THAT i don't? Know, again VERY i mean you had 496 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 5: you Had Bump, elliott right? 497 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh and then you had the guy who left 498 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: to go To Stanford bob, Bowlsby Bob. Bolsby and THEN 499 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 3: i DON'T i know the other guys there when they 500 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 3: had like four maybe. 501 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: Right stabilities what you're talking we had four in a. Week, 502 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: well because you ran them. Out, YEAH i mean you're 503 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: tough to work. With man asking for. TVs, yeah, yeah high. 504 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: MAINTENANCE i mean might have something that you go to 505 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: the building that didn't have a monster truck rally. 506 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 5: In is like you can't have. EVERYTHING i know. 507 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: It that's that's. 508 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 5: Direct, NO i. 509 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: Did you don't talk ABOUT lsu. Though in ninety NINE 510 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: i got a call FROM. 511 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 5: Lsu really who was there? Then who was? Coaching? 512 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: You remember the guy get fired must okay got fired 513 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 3: and uh So TOM o is the A d AND 514 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: i have all the respect the world. 515 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 5: SMART i remember. 516 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: That. 517 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: Yeah so, ANYWAY. 518 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: I agreed to talk to, them AND i flew To 519 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: chicago and met with the president In. 520 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 5: Chicago was that a big? Secret? Yeah, yeah telling? 521 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: Us and then uh so, anyway uh we, talked had 522 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: a nice, conversation AND i saw it a little bit 523 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: and they, said they, said what do you? Think AND i, said, 524 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: well you, Know i've been TO, lsu but having in 525 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: a long. Time they, said we're going back. Now once 526 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 3: you get in a jet and go with. Us AND i, said, 527 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: Geez i'd really like to go home and discuss it at, 528 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: home you, Know, Okay and THEN i came back AND 529 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 3: i talked To tom And tom, says, well tell me 530 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: what's the number one reason why you'd wanted to Leave. 531 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: Minnesota AND i, Said, TOM i hate playing in that. 532 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: Dome it's. Depressing it's. TERRIBLE i can't stand. It it's 533 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: not college. Football And tom, said, well you know, WHAT 534 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: i really think you're on the right. Track that both 535 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: of us working, together we keep it going like, that 536 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: we can get a stadium back on. Campus that's what 537 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: he told. 538 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 5: Me and that appealed to. 539 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: Me it really. 540 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 5: DID i mean that could be that could be our. 541 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: LEGACY i, said, okay, well Then Nick, Saban i'm not 542 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: saying they offered me the. 543 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 5: Job i'm not Saying Nick saban took the. 544 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: Job and Then Michigan state called me right away and. 545 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 5: If that was the famous, quote and then the phone 546 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 5: rangs all answer. 547 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 3: And then president offered me the. Job he, DID i 548 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: want you to come. Here Nick saban's, left we want to, 549 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: know and they offered me sizeable money to go. 550 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 5: There saw a, bump a, raise big. 551 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: Bump But Nick saban's staff wasn't leaving with. Him they 552 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: didn't want to go With. Nick and this guy wanted 553 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: me to keep the, staff not not, entirely but the, 554 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: WORDS i have to leave a big portion of my 555 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: guys here and go To. Michigan so we didn't get 556 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: any farther than. THAT i, said, Jeez i'm you, know 557 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: that's not the WAY i. Operate, again it goes back 558 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: to If i'm going to run the, Program i'm going 559 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: to run the. Program. Okay If i'm a bad, okay 560 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: it's my it's my. Fault BUT i don't want to 561 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: take grief when someone else is making the. 562 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 5: Decisions so. 563 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: What was the? 564 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 5: Question did we know? 565 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: THIS i. 566 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: DIDN'T i was going to say this would be, great 567 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: BUT i knew there was a phone call For Michigan. 568 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: State BUT i don't remember. Hearing Maybe i'm just my 569 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: memory is. 570 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: BAD i don't remember this being that being you being 571 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 4: this specific about how it went beyond. 572 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: That, well it was it was Quick bank, Bank, yeah, okay, 573 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: yeah but that's WHAT i. Did and so were you? 574 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 4: TEMPTED i, mean because it is an ideal to take 575 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: somebody else's. STAB i get, that we, Go i'm losing 576 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 4: control from the, Beginning But Big bomp probably capable, coaches, 577 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 4: right and you, GO i. 578 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: Was not interested because the conditions were being dictated to. Me, 579 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 3: right you follow What i'm, SAYING i. Do it. 580 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: Wasn't but the situation here wasn't. IDEAL i know, that 581 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: but it. 582 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: Wasn't if it would have, BEEN i might have been 583 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: a little bit more Interested, dan if he were to. Sit, 584 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 3: boy we got a really good staff here and they 585 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 3: don't want to go with saving because they don't want 586 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: to work with. It, right you ought to come and 587 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: interview where when they? Go he offered, them you need 588 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: to interview. Them but any what he. 589 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: Said, yeah he said you got to keep, Them you 590 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: got to keep that's. 591 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 5: Different. Yeah do you think if he had said the 592 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 5: OTHER i don't. 593 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: Know i'm just. Speculating i'm just that. Turned we didn't get? 594 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 3: That what did what? 595 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: Did what did you get From? 596 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: Mo in? 597 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: Return you got a bump by? Someone well that was 598 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: already that was already in the, works but it. 599 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: Was it was only in the work before, that before that, 600 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: overture before all that, stuff and that was. 601 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 5: You didn't try to get another bump at that. Point, 602 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 5: NO i did. Not and that was and that wasn't 603 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 5: come From Tom. 604 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: Mow that was come From Mark udolf Because Mark udoff called, Me, 605 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: UH i knew EXACTLY i was on camp as my 606 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: phone rang is what this? Is and he, Said, HEY 607 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: i just want to talk to. You he, said, uh 608 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: meeting with the. Staff, uh we're not paying you enough 609 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: by what you've, done what you've, accomplished And i'm going 610 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: to just tell you we're gonna put something together that 611 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: you're going to be happy. 612 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: With you just got to trust, Us AND i was. 613 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: Happy how much more was the mission state? 614 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: Offer? Significant like another? Mill, no. 615 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 5: We weren't talking in terms back then like. 616 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: That are you? 617 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: Crazy, yeah it's a long time ago, here, right you, know. 618 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: Really that's that's you know WHAT i tell you, KNOW 619 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: i was, THINKING i got to tell you. That you, 620 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: Know i'm a great on. Stories CAN i tell you a? 621 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: Story that's your? 622 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: Show, Obviously i'm just here for the, RIDE i. 623 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: Know but, anyway how things have changed WHEN i went 624 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: to go, ahead WHEN i went To, Kansas, yeah, okay 625 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: big eight conference, people if you mean the big Big, 626 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: yeah you Know, oklahoma you got. It it. 627 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: Was it was. 628 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: The best football conference going out and nothing was too. Good, 629 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: WELL i go To. Kansas selity's are bad, programs bad 630 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: and we practiced By Allen, fieldhouse Cal, pasture bad practice. 631 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: Fields we didn't have an Indoor, fieldhouse and if it, 632 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: rained the fields were. Bad we had to practice in the. 633 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: Stadium and this stadium was Up Jayhawk, boulevard a hill 634 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: From Allen Field house through. 635 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: Campus and Down, mississippi which. 636 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: Is a steep hill down to the. Stadium, well the 637 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: way we transported we had these two old school, buses 638 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: one yellow and one. Blue not only, THAT i had 639 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: to get two coaches get special driving license to drive the. Buses. Coaches, 640 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: okay so one day it's, raining you, know we packed 641 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: only two these we pack them in. There of, Course 642 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: i'm on the first, bus yellow, one and we go 643 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: up the hill down go to the, stadium AND i 644 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: would wait for the second. One they're coming over because 645 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: they're all of a Sudd and here comes the blue. 646 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: Bus And i'm standing there watching it come Down mississippi 647 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: And i'm, saying and two Guysmember Mitch brown and he drove. 648 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: One the other guy was a guy with. McCartney he 649 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: was a. GA i, Said connie's going. Fast he goes 650 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: right by the stadium AND i, go what is that 651 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: crazy guy? Doing and he keeps. GOING i think he's being. 652 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: Funny players, said let's mess around with. Coach you, know 653 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 3: and he keeps going on And i'm getting. MAD i get. 654 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: IT i, Said i'm gonna kill. Him i'm gonna fire 655 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: him on the. 656 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: Spot is he? Crazy, well about fifteen minutes later here 657 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 5: comes To team. RUNNING i, go, mccartny what do you do? 658 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 5: It he, says we lost our? 659 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: Breaks oh, man that's. Serious that came down the hill 660 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: and had to cross two major. STREETS i, mean and 661 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: then after the two major streets it flattens, out and 662 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: he took it all the way to the river and 663 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: stopped it in the grass of the river and they 664 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: had to run back big time. 665 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: Footing did you did you demand new, buses new, breaks 666 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: new breaks at? 667 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: Least oh, yeah good. 668 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: Budget More mace stories will be a Spun more mace. 669 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 4: Yarns let's get one more pause in and maybe we'll 670 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 4: talk a little bit About big ten games this week as. 671 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Well time now for The Vikings report on The, fan 672 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: presented By Miller. Lyte viking's wide Receiver Adam feelin joins 673 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: Danver ro next. 674 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: Man let's remind folks That mace In Your face is 675 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 4: sponsored this year By Jack's. Cafe we appreciate their contributions to. 676 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: The to the. 677 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: Bit you know, WHAT i really. 678 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: Appreciate what's that if after this show. 679 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 5: And Today i'd even hang. 680 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: AROUND i don't believe you call if we get guards 681 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: he called carry. Limo, yeah Don, anderson get the carry 682 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: limo here and go over To jackson and see. 683 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: You by you by? Dinner you buyas. Dinner now you're 684 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 5: turned to buy, it are you? 685 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: Not? 686 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: So the is IF i understand the sequence, here you 687 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: savage the crap out of me and THEN i am 688 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: supposed to. 689 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 5: Respond but, Hey i'll let me buy your. Dinner that 690 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 5: seems really. FINE i just don't go to dinner with. 691 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: Anything OH i, SEE i see that explains the price 692 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: to go With. Mason all, right let me ask you 693 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 4: this because we're in a round out of time AND 694 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: i definitely wanted to get to. 695 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: THIS i meant to get to. 696 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: It, okay if you are Coaching Carson, wentz. 697 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 5: Does he? 698 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 4: Finished does he stay in that game as long as 699 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: he did for The? 700 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: Vikings absolutely. Not And i've never coached pro, football AND 701 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: i know that there's a. Difference BUT i and we've 702 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: talked about this. FAR i always prided. MYSELF i always 703 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: try to remind myself of making Decisions i'm going to 704 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: coach someone else's kid to wad coach my own. Kid 705 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: AND i watched that game and it was painful to 706 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: watch the Young i'm gonna say young, man the man, 707 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: too the. Player he looked like he was in unbelievable. 708 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: Pain he really. 709 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 5: Was i'm not a. 710 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: DOCTOR i don't know what the medical staff was saying to. 711 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 3: Him you, know in pro, football if the guy gets 712 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: back a little bump in the, HEAD i mean they 713 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: stop it, down someone takes him. Out YOU i don't 714 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 3: know they have medical. Advisors you think the medical advisor 715 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: watching that game, say, oh you, know maybe his head's, 716 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: okay but he is not. Okay and you, know WHEN 717 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 3: i was coaching all those, YEARS i never OVER i 718 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 3: shouldn't SAY i over ruled, doctors but not letting a kid. Play. 719 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: Never if they said he couldn't, play he couln't play that, 720 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: Right AND i remember that didn't happen a lot because 721 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: of the medical staff the places that were really. Good 722 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: BUT i REMEMBER i, Said, kansas when you were playing At, missouri, 723 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: Tip hillary is my quarterback and he got a head 724 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: bump or. 725 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 5: WHATEVER i don't know if it's a concussion or. Not 726 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: you know in those. 727 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: Days, well he, did, hey hold up fingers and if 728 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: you said, two you put him back in the. Game 729 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: and he said he was, okay and the doctor's. Okay 730 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 3: AND i looked at. Him was on a call play 731 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: AND i said, no and he was. UPSET i said, 732 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: no AND i, said he just doesn't look. RIGHT i 733 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: rather air on the side of caution and watching him. 734 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: PLAY i don't know if he could heard. It FOR 735 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: i heard your story, BEFORE i don't know if he 736 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: could heard it. Further and that type of pain you 737 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: shouldn't be. Playing you really. 738 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: SHOULDN'T i. Agree, NOW a text writes. 739 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: When you have a situation which adults are, involved he, 740 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 4: writes if it was, children maybe even a college, level 741 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: the coach would have more. Responsibility but after, All carson's an. 742 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: Adult what do you say to that part. 743 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 3: Player is a, player coach is a. COACH i think 744 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: the number one responsibility of a coach at any, level, pro, 745 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 3: college high, school pee, weee whatever you want to call, 746 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: it is the safety of your. Players, now he may 747 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: disagree with, Me i'm just telling you that's my. 748 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: Philosophy i'm with a one hundred percent on this. ONE 749 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: i have as much AS i hate agreeing with. 750 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 5: You you had what? 751 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: Else you? 752 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 4: Had something? ELSE i want to talk Quickly Gophers Michigan. 753 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 4: State it's the old you got to rebound fast, here, 754 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: Right you got to get that out of your. 755 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: Mouth, YEAH i think you, know that's obviously a very disappointing. 756 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: Game the old, saying don't let one team beat you 757 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 3: twice because you should Be Michigan state playing at. 758 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: Home you're a Favorite Michigan. STATES i think in the 759 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: conference from, numbers not a not. 760 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: A good football. Team you got to win this one 761 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: otherwise you make that lost even. 762 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 5: Worse, So, uh they've got to do. 763 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: It you, know it's. Amazing there's some really interesting stories out. 764 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: There we talked About, indiana and we talked About. Vanderbilt 765 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: vanderbilt Plays texas this. Week you don't think that All 766 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: sarkisian down that Long horns aren't a little. Nervous he's 767 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: already got two. Losses you can't lose The vanderbilt and 768 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: you get. Three how About navy The midshipman they're, Undefeated, uh, 769 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: obviously and they're Playing North axus seven and. 770 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 5: ONE i don't think about Dorth. 771 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: Texas, uh, REALLY i think a sneaky team Is. Cincinnati 772 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: now you saw What utah did To. Colorado they destroyed. 773 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 3: Him they Play cincinnati this. Week, cincinnatily you, know has one, 774 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: loss and then is the wounded animal Of Penn state 775 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 3: dangerous to The Ohio state. 776 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 5: Buck, GUYS i don't know. 777 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 4: That game's In. COLUMBUS i, think isn't? It they Host 778 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 4: indiana Does Penn state the next? Week BUT i THINK 779 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 4: i Think guardia Is indiana Is Penn State Ohio. State 780 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 4: that's In, columbus isn't. It i'm your double check, it, 781 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: yeah double check just to. 782 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: See by the, way A texter wants to know what 783 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: your buyout is for this? 784 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 5: Show what is The Glenn may in your? Contract what's the? 785 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 5: Buyout you mean IF i get? 786 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 3: Fired? 787 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 4: Well, yeah that or if somebody wants to come after 788 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: you and we, say, okay here's what you have to. 789 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: Pay yeah well, no, yeah that question would. HAPPENED i left, you. 790 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 5: Guys i'm under contract with yea with you. 791 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 2: GUYS i don't. Know it's probably better be the fine. 792 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: PRINT i don't, know better look at. It it's In, 793 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: columbus it's at the. Shoe and speaking Of mason's, compensation 794 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: he mentioned the president was a, president you'd, off, yeah 795 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: mark you. Off we also had our, president our market 796 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: president called put together a meeting and said we've looked 797 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 2: At mace and what he, provides and we think we're 798 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: paying him exactly what we should pay. Him it was 799 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: a little different than the other. Way so we think it's. 800 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 5: A very fair it's fair. 801 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: And reasonable off for fairs where you get a pig In. 802 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: August we know, that and so we think so we've revisited, 803 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: it and we think we're giving him exactly what he. 804 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: DESERVES i got to ask you guys. Something, okay did 805 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 3: you watch The Alabama South carolina? 806 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 5: GAME i did, not SO. 807 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 3: I i MEAN i was flipping AND i saw Where 808 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: South carolina was Winning alabama the ball they scored right 809 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: at the, END i don't, know a minute left or 810 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: something like, that and it went for two and, god 811 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: and SO i forgot it's going. Overtime next, THING i, 812 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 3: know Al obama one in, Regulation so sounds kind of 813 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 3: must have funneled the ball through an. 814 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 5: INTERCEPTION i don't. 815 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: Know you, know guards he should, know he's the college football, 816 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: guy but he's too busy to he's being distracted by 817 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 2: our five, No. Kessler i'm actually Even kessler in. Here 818 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: we're breaking a lot of things. Down oh you, ARE i, 819 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: MEAN i was busy on. SIDE i have to work at. 820 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: IT i did not watch that game at. All and 821 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: you're our college football expert coach. 822 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: Approached prime had a rough. 823 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 5: Day, yeah, well he, said reality is setting in a. 824 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 5: Life that's the worst whooping he ever got since his 825 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 5: mother whooped. 826 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: Him, yeah that's not. 827 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 5: Good fifty three to. 828 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: Seven that was the. 829 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 5: FINAL i, think so fifty three. 830 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: Sad how about My Kent State Golden what they do 831 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: they beat Bag Eddie, george The Heisman trophy? Winner did they? Really? 832 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah they beat. Him i'd be a big. UPSET bg 833 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: is in bowling. Green. Yeah. Oh and then the other thing, 834 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: said note, though Like jayhawks got thumped By Kansas. 835 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 5: STATE i thought they were on the way on the comeback. 836 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 5: Trail were and they played at home and got thumb oo. 837 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 4: Football that was a funny, Game, Mas as you, know 838 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: goes week to. Week ALL i care about is whether 839 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 4: My hoosiers can take care of business At. Maryland i'm 840 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: worried about that, game and and they're At Penn. State 841 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 4: those are trap games for The. Hoosiers, yeah after That 842 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 4: Wisconsin purdue and they're if they're they're they're home. Free 843 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 4: that's when you know what that'll be their brisk biggest. 844 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: Risk i'm telling, you, yes everybody coming after. You when 845 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: you hit by THOSE i, say, oh well we Got. 846 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 3: Wisconsin they. Can't that's because you, know when you're dealing 847 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 3: with kids. 848 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 5: Traps, yeah you're, right watch. Out season's long to run 849 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 5: the table these days especially. 850 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 3: Hard. Yeah it really if you look at the number 851 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: of times any team has run the table in The Big, ten. 852 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 5: Not as many as you. 853 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: Think South carolina fumbled on their own forty is what 854 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 4: one texture is telling. 855 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 5: Us does that make sense. 856 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 3: THAT i knew had to be a fumbler. 857 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: Interception they fumbled at their own forty H i had one. Other, 858 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: well they're agreeing with, You. Mace this is from Texter 859 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: My cheeters. ON i can't See Nathan maces's one hundred 860 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 4: percent of ride as a coach is a responsibility protect 861 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: the player from the cells when the player is. Unable 862 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 4: athletes are told and trained to play through everything and 863 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 4: only come off the field the coach tells you, to 864 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: or if you literally cannot walk out. 865 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: There, YEAH i. 866 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 4: Agree I'm i'm still stunned that they went the way they. 867 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: Did we all know now it's JJ's, team right because 868 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 4: Now carson had the, surgery so it's he's, done he's, 869 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 4: gone AND jj is, starting And guardsy's, Guy brozmur's the. 870 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 4: Backup they brought in a veteran whose name escapes, me 871 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 4: who used to work H, kfc worked with him with The. 872 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 4: RAMS i don't even remember his. Name it is worth 873 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 4: noting although this might be, No i've never heard of this. 874 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 4: Quarterback he's not HYPHEN i don't. REMEMBER i don't. Remember 875 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 4: WHAT i do also, know and this will probably be 876 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 4: part of the top five to five is the news 877 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 4: On Van ginkel is suddenly much more. Positive he's acting 878 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 4: like his intention is to play On sunday In. Detroit 879 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 4: AND i think the betting line was he's out for 880 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: a while. Long he's had the neck, issue so that 881 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 4: would be a big bonus. Help that's a tough game 882 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 4: In detroit. 883 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: Though and did you See Aiden hutcheson got a contract 884 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: extension lots of money. 885 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: And didn't he miss one of the two games he 886 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 2: missed at least one of the two games AGAINST us last. 887 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: Year, yes he. 888 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 4: Did the good thing is we got a really stable offensive. 889 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 4: Line you know that that regardless of so we shouldn't 890 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 4: have any. 891 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 5: Problem handling being, SARCASTIC a. 892 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 4: Little, sarcastic you. Know that's why you learned that from. 893 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 4: Me the, sarcasm you KNOW i have the sarcasm. Gene 894 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 4: you love? 895 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 3: It? 896 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 5: Yeah ARE i going To? 897 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: How are you? Nuts you? Know the sarcasm is the 898 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 3: lowest form of. Humor did you know? That is? It? Really? 899 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 4: Yeah going to you because you didn't like to be 900 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 4: on the wrong end of? It thanks for coming. In 901 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 4: are you back next? Week are back In? 902 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 5: Fargo? 903 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 3: No, No i'm? 904 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 5: Back is The fargo experiment over a? 905 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: While going? Strong, okay go? 906 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 5: Strong good now at least last, time at least last 907 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 5: time you. 908 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: Checked top five will Include, vikings injury updates and what, 909 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: Else Wolves, Preview Wolves, wild And. 910 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 3: Wentz