1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Thanks 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: for joining us on the program today. We are talking 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: here on the program today about roof leaks and yard 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: drainage and gutter issues and all of that kind of stuff. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Right before the break, I basically teased out the idea of, 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, while we are working on this, how do 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: you know your roof needs replacing? And I had said 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: multiple leaks, and I took a little side jaunt to 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: just explain to you essentially what a roof is essentially 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: constructed out of, and that is the shingle on top 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: that you see, and then the actual weather barrier down below, 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: the water barrier, the underlayment, the roof sheathing, and on 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: top of that the underlayment. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 2: And so. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: One leak does not make a roof replacement. It just 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: means there's a leak for whatever reason. But if you're 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: getting multiple leaks all over the place, it's a good 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: sign that the seals between flashing and underlayment, or the 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: underlayment if it's all building paper, is starting to crack 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: or has cracked. And that, by the way, just to 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: top off what I was saying before, the reason why 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I no longer recommend anybody put underlayment of building paper, 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: asphalt embedded building paper anymore, or roofing paper. And it's 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: simply because it's great. It's tough, it's absolutely waterproof. But 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: it's asphalt and bedded felt and eventually heat cold, heat cold, 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: over time, it will crack. The asphalt grows brittle, as 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: it is the case with all asphalt patches, and eventually cracks, 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: and then we've got leaks, and usually multiple leaks. And 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: the new underlayments don't have those issues. They stretch, they 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 1: self seal, they expand and contract in the heat without 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: breaking open. And that's why they're so so much better. 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: That's modern roofing, by the way, So don't let anybody 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: push the old building paper thing on you at this point. 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: But multiple leaks, that's a sign that that kind of activity, 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: that cracking and the failing of the seams is starting 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: to happen. Also curled up shingles, now, of course, i'm 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: talking about asphalt composition shingles, which about eighty percent of 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Americans have on their roof these days. Curled up shingles 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: is a sign also that the asphalt fiberglass, the asphalt 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: embedded fiberglass sheets underneath have really lost a lot of 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: moisture and probably also lost a lot of granulation on 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: top and is pushing its way. Now, it's not a guarantee. 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a company out there that 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: services southern California, all of southern California through various distributors 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of various locations, roof Max. Again not a sponsor on 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: the show, but I gotta tell you, roof Max makes 48 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: a fantastic restorative material. Kind of think of it in 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: terms of like you get dry skin on your hands 50 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: and your elbows, and you grab some lotion and the 51 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, a good quality lotion and everything 52 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: has calmed down and now we don't have dry, cracking 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: skin on our hands anymore. Well, the roof Max material, 54 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: it's not a paint. Don't paint your roof, don't No, 55 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: it's not a paint, and it's not a surface coating. 56 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: It is essentially this is their main product, a material 57 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: that is absorbed into and rehydrates, re conditions and it's safe, okay, 58 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: safe effective oils to do this. Reconditions those asphalt shingles, 59 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: and if your roof is starting starting to show its age, okay, 60 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: you're a prime candidate because this stuff could extend the 61 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: life of your roof another five years. Sometimes people can 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: get an other ten to fifteen years out of their 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: roof if they reapply it every five years. So that's 64 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: a consideration. But yeah, when the curl when the shingles 65 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: start to curl up, when rock granules on the ground 66 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: are on the ground in large numbers after a rain, 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: it's a sign that that embedded granulization in your roofing 68 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: material has started to let go and that has gone 69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: a long way toward protecting that roof so far. And then, 70 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: of course, if you see flashings up there that are 71 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: rusted or rusting out, that is a clear sign and 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: also the age of your roof. Okay, now, just know 73 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: that that no roof, no roof should be expected to 74 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: last the length of its warranty. I'm just being realistic 75 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: about this, okay. So let's say you put a thirty 76 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: year roof up there, or a forty year roof, well, 77 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: you know what, twenty five years in everybody should be 78 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: taking a serious look at their roof. I'm just saying 79 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: just saying, and I'm not saying that there is a 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 1: difference between a thirty and a forty or a fifty 81 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: year roof. Okay, I'm just saying that twenty twenty five 82 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: years in every roof should be looked at seriously. It's 83 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, aging. Just because you've hit 84 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: in middle age or you're you know, you're in your 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: fifties now does not mean that your body is going 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: to be riddled with disease and full of health problems. 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: But we all know things change, Things change, and so 88 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: now it's time to take a more serious look and 89 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: look more often. Does that make sense? I hope? 90 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: So. 91 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the deal. We are up against a 92 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: break and we are right here middle hour of the show, 93 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: and this is where I normally turn to the phones, 94 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and we've got some calls on the board. So I'm 95 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna do is I'm gonna invite you to call in. 96 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: In addition to the callers, we already have the number 97 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight 98 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: three three the numeral two. Ask Dean anything you want 99 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: to talk about regarding your home. I'm talking roofing and 100 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: roof leaks. You can talk to me about anything, and 101 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: we will go to the phones right after this your 102 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 103 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 104 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: KFI Am six. 105 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: We're talking about after the storm, leak, drainage problems, gutter issues, 106 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff. That's my topic for 107 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: the day for you, and we're going to return to 108 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: that in just a bit. But guess what, middle of 109 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the show, time to go to the phones. I want 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: to talk to Jen. Hey, Jen, welcome home, Hey Dean. 111 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm having my house some work done and 112 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: then it's going to be painted and I'm getting a 113 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: new front door. I'm wondering about the color of the 114 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 4: door hardware to choose. The house is going to be 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: tope with black trim, black gutters. The front door will 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: be natural would I don't know yet what color or 117 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: if I should go darker light. But then do I 118 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: go black hardware or shiny brass or brushed brass? What 119 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: are your thoughts? 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: What style of house are we talking about? Jen? And 121 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: by the way, you've woken up the designer in me 122 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: who is getting not a lot of time on today's show. 123 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: So he's very very happy to field your call. So, so, yeah, 124 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: what what style house are we talking about? 125 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: It's a story book house. O, it's. 126 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: A story book house. Do you all know what a 127 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: storybook house is? Storybook actually is is one of the 128 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: rare true Southern California originated architectural categories born into existence 129 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen twenties and as a result, specifically 130 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: kind of huddled around areas of like you know, Los 131 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Angeles and the Southland, uh, basically built by set designers 132 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: in the Golden Age of Hollywood who were like, you 133 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: know what, we're hidden here every day working on these 134 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: movies and uh, and so why can't I go home 135 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: and uh and have a house that's uh that looks 136 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: like this Witch's cottage or this little you know, Hansel 137 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and Gretel house or whatever. And they started designing and 138 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: building for themselves these beautiful houses. Most of them are 139 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: one offs as far as their their uniqueness, and they 140 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: got nicknamed and categorized storybook homes. And so they are lovely, 141 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: super charming homes. They have challenges because they're older homes, 142 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: like century homes, but nonetheless, all right, so, Jen, you 143 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: got a storybook house? It's great. It's great. So here's 144 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: the thing. Depending on the you know, I without you know, 145 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: sight unseen, I don't know what tell you what to 146 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: tell you about the color of the front door. Okay, 147 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: should it be painted, should it be dark wood stain, 148 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: light wood stain. But I will tell you this, a 149 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: storybook house definitely falls under the category of you know, 150 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: gopher broke on the front door, Okay. In other words, 151 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: it's an old style, old school kind of home, and 152 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: it could very well. I guess what I'm saying is, 153 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: you've got so much freedom here that you're probably it's 154 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: probably not going to be possible for you to make 155 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the wrong decision. Hope, tell you that. That's why I 156 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: want to comfort you in that level. Because yes, of course, 157 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: the front door could match trim. It could be the 158 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: color of trump And I know you asked me about 159 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: the hardware. I'm not missing that point. But the front 160 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: door could be the color of the trim. It could 161 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: or it could be outstanding in the sense of, you know, 162 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: a standout color because you know of old world Enlightenment 163 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and and you know Renaissance, even Elizabethan. On paying off 164 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: your mortgage, this is where the idea of like a 165 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: house with a bright red door came into play. Now, 166 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: red probably isn't the right move for the storybook house, 167 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: but the point is that door could be just about 168 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: any color to make it stand out unique from the 169 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: rest of the house, or it could be a continuation 170 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: of the theme of the rest of the woodwork in 171 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: the house. And the same is true with the hardware. 172 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: The hardware does not need to correspond to everything else 173 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: on the house if that's the way you decide to go. 174 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: But if you do, then then I want you to 175 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: get hardware that matches up with the other metal. Okay. 176 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: So theory of design very very important fundamental of design, 177 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: and that is in the world of design, in the 178 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: world of a material selection, hit it right on the 179 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: nose or miss it by a mile, okay, both are acceptable. 180 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Both are acceptable. Hit it on the nose or miss 181 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: it by a mile. But close close only counts in 182 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: horseshoes and hand grenades. You know they say close in 183 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: the world of design is always looks like a miss 184 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: always looks like a mistake, always looks like something has 185 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: happened and we've fallen short. So that's the idea behind 186 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: that concept. So You've got the freedom, my friend, you 187 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: really do. You've got the freedom to either go with 188 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the same metal finishes that are happening on the rest 189 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: of the house. Okay, And I'm a big believer in 190 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: creating kind of a bible, a rule book for the 191 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: exterior of a home, in which we do categorize things 192 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: like if it's metal, it's this, it's this color. Right, 193 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: most of the time we actually move towards like either 194 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's either an espresso bronze, or it's a 195 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: brass or or it's a deep, deep kind of iron, 196 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: kind of cast iron, charcoal black kind of thing. If 197 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: that's why you want to go, then keep up that 198 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: look with the the door hardware itself, or change it 199 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: up completely so that it stands on its own along 200 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: with the door with its own character. Miss it by 201 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: a mile. This is why I don't you know, I, 202 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: as a designer, I will never put artificial wood flooring 203 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: of tile or vinyl next to real wood. Okay, because 204 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: it's a close facsimile. If that's the only thing you 205 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: have to compare it to, it's fine. But the two 206 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: together too close and it looks like a mistake. So 207 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: hit it on the nose or miss it by a mile, Jen. 208 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: And most of all, you got a storybook house. Have 209 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: fun with it. Jen, I gotta go. Thank you so 210 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: much for the call. So appreciate it. You woke the 211 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: designer up. He's so happy. More of your calls right 212 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: after this your Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. 213 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 214 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty. 215 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Yes, it's critical to take care of your home. That's 216 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: essentially what we're talking about today. We're biasing toward the 217 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: builder side of things today because if you've got roof leaks, 218 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: if you've got drainage issues, you know, a house, above 219 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: all things, has got to at least start with being functional. Functional, 220 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: it's got to work. Okay, some of the greatest architects 221 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: of all time, well, you know, arguably the greatest American architect, 222 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: residential architect, Frank Lloyd Wright, you know, heralded as and 223 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: I love Frank and I love his stuff. I do, 224 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: I do. Okay, I'm as big a fan as most 225 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: other designers are. However, you know, I have a very 226 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: sober perspective when it comes to Frank, and that is 227 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: that just about if you know anything about his stuff, 228 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: just about all of his roofs leak because Frank was 229 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: attempting to do things back in the day that we 230 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: didn't have the technology to effectively do back then, and 231 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: so and he ignored that. And so I don't know 232 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: whether to pat him on the back for that and 233 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: call him a trailblazer, or say, listen, you have fundamentally 234 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: failed your client and there's no amount of cool design 235 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: that justifies the fact that your clients live in a 236 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: leaky home. So yeah, I've always struggled with that tension 237 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But the point that I'm 238 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: making here is that a home ultimately has to have 239 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: has to have proper function, and so that's why the 240 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: builder in me is talking to you today to make 241 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: sure that things are working properly. But never, never, are 242 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: we going to leave design behind because a house truly 243 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: becomes a home when it visually and emotionally begins to 244 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: express and amplify the best life of its user. And 245 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: so we will never lose perspective on that. Here in 246 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: the program, we are not just a midster fix it show. 247 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Here we are all about designing and building beautiful homes. 248 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: And I'm here to help you with both. It is 249 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: middle of the show, and so I'm laying aside our 250 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: our flood leaks and the drainage issues in order to 251 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: take your calls. And we've got calls on the board. 252 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: By the way. The number to reach me eight three 253 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: to three two ask Dean A three to three, the 254 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: numeral two ask Dean eight three to three to ask Dean. 255 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: It's just that simple. You can call me about anything 256 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: that's going on with your home, anything, design, construction, DIY, 257 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. When it comes to your calls, 258 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: you set the agenda. And speaking of setting the agenda, 259 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: I would like to speak to Bruce. Hey, Bruce, welcome home. 260 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi Dean, thanks for taking the call. I'm on 261 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: speaker phone. Is that okay? 262 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Ah, you're sounding okay so far. I may have you 263 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: go off if it starts to sound weird, but you 264 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: sound fine right now. 265 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. My question is we would like to 266 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: reduce noise from a lower floor to an upper floor. 267 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: The upper floor is a kid turning dining, low floor 268 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: bedrooms with young people sleeping in the bedrooms, and we 269 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: have two or twelve floor joys sixteen on center the 270 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: flooring upstairs in the kitchen dining room is TNG solid wood, 271 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: and pull that out and do it new because we're 272 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: redesigning the kitchen. So with light and tips. You did 273 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: a great show several weeks ago about noise reduction and 274 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: acoustics and things like that when I was driving, so 275 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: I just didn't have time to make notes, so I 276 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: just wanted to call in your professional experience what you 277 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: might recommend. 278 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Gotcha? Gotcha? Okay? How big is the floor air by 279 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the way, just square footage of the house. I don't 280 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: know if it's evenly stacked one in two floors, But 281 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: how big is the ceiling areas or the floor areas 282 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: in question that you're trying to silence. 283 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: We're looking at let's see about twenty eight by twenty two, 284 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: so roughly six hundred square feet okay, so. 285 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Not an inordinately large area. Okay, So here's the thing. 286 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Let's see if I can quickly in four minutes give 287 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: you a primer on noise reduction. Noise reduction or soundproofing 288 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: as we call it, is a layered game. I am 289 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: so looking forward to the day when I can come 290 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: on the air here and tell everybody guess what they 291 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: did it. They invented a micro thin piece of material 292 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: that if you put this up blocks all sound from 293 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: one side to the other, complete sound insulation, and we're done. 294 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: That'll be great, And probably one day somebody will figure 295 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: that out, but not now. Right now, what we have 296 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: is a at best, a la approach. The studio that 297 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in right now has to take a layered 298 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: approach in order to reach the amount of soundproofing and 299 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: noise reduction necessary in order to control everything that you're 300 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: hearing as we go on the air and keep it 301 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: isolated from all the busyness that's going on outside the studio. Right. 302 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: So it's a layered approach, so there are no absolute solves, 303 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: just so everybody knows. And floor material upstairs to downstairs 304 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: is particularly problematic because it's the same material that's being 305 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: walked on upstairs that's transmitting that sound, that energy, and 306 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: remember sound is energy, transmitting it down through those two 307 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: x twelve floor joists and into the dry wall down below. 308 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. There's no stopping that, the fact 309 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: that energy will travel through that piece of wood when 310 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: somebody steps on it up above. Okay, somebody steps on 311 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: the hardwood that goes to the plywood sheathing underneath it. 312 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: That energy passes directly into the floor joisse. That floor 313 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: choice passes that energy directly into the dry wall, which 314 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: is a sounding membrane, and then the kids are hearing it, 315 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, in their rooms. However, however, energy moves through 316 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: those solid materials, especially wood, at a much slower and 317 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: a less energetic state than it does through air. Okay, 318 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: And the biggest issue with hardwood floors upstairs and you know, 319 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: sound resonant chain bedrooms downstairs is the fact that there's 320 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: air in between the joists. That sixteen on center floor 321 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Joise means that there's a fourteen and three eighths wide 322 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: cavity full of air by eleven and a half for 323 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: every foot down below. So the air is the largest 324 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: resonant chamber that you could deal with if you really 325 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: really wanted to deaden the amount of sound. I say deaden, 326 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: not eliminate, but deaden the amount of sound so in 327 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: each bedroom in question, as opposed to approaching this from 328 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: up top, if you've got some budget set aside, this 329 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: is what I suggest, And people think this is a 330 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: radical concept, but think about this. Putting up drywall is 331 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: really of all the things and all the materials that 332 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: go on in a house on the less expensive side 333 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: of things. Okay, it seems like a big mess, and 334 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: it can be a big hassle. But here is what 335 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I would recommend. If you want the maximum amount of 336 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: sound dampening, you will remove the dry wall lid from 337 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the bedrooms that are experiencing this sound. You'll remove the 338 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: drywall completely, so we've got bare exposed studs, and we 339 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: will insulate each one of those floor joist bays fully 340 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: with rock wool sound insulation. And that's not rare stuff 341 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: these days. Rock wool sound insulation is sitting on the 342 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: shelves at home depot and lows right now. The inside 343 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: of a home, the interior walls and the interior floors 344 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: are not required by code to be insulated. Sound wasn't 345 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: an issue is not an issue in the building code. 346 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: The building code is concerned with thermal insulation. That means 347 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: the exterior envelope of the house has to be insulated 348 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: the outside walls, the ceiling of the of the roofline, 349 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: and so on, but not the interior floors and not 350 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: the interior walls. But filling those joyst bays with insulation, 351 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: which again is not incredibly expensive when it comes to 352 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: the overall scheme of a remodel, and then replacing the 353 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: lids on those bedroom ceilings. And if you really wanted 354 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: to go the extra mile, you could use a sound 355 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: deadening drywall, which is two for a half inch of drywalls, 356 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: two layers of quarter inch drywall that are sandwiching together 357 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: with a gelatinous kind of nylon or vinyl film in between. 358 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: That causes a break in energy transmission. So if you 359 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: were to do that to those bedrooms, I'm going to say, 360 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: just shooting from the hip, that you're going to reduce 361 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: the amount of noise transmission from upstairs into those bedrooms 362 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: by eighty plus percent, and that will be a huge victory. 363 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: It'll be a big victory, and honestly, it's the least 364 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: expensive way to get the most out of that situation. Bruce, 365 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: there are other tips and tricks that we could do, 366 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: but they'd be band aids. So I just went right 367 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: for the jugular with you, so you understand what will 368 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: really make the biggest difference. All Right, more of your 369 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: calls when we return your home with Dean Sharp. 370 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 371 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty. 372 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: Here to remind you every home deserves great design. Every 373 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: every home can have it. Every home including that Yeah, 374 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: that tracked home that you live in, that by definition, 375 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: was not designed for you or anyone for that matter, 376 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: just laid out and it appears in multiple angles, multiple positions, 377 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: throughout the track that you live in, throughout the neighborhood 378 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: that you live in. Sometimes it's flipped, Sometimes it's pointing 379 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: north south east west. Sometimes it's sitting on a piece 380 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: of property where you've got elbow room to the left 381 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: and right at the end of a cul de sac. 382 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're soldiered in five feet on each side next 383 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: to other neighbors. That's a tracked home. That is the 384 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: way that they are typically put together. And yet even 385 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: that home, especially that home, if we look at it 386 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: the right way, if we ask it the fundamental design questions, 387 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: and you are willing to step up and say, you 388 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: know what, it's time for this house to start being 389 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: my house in my way on this property. Yeah, that 390 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: home can have great design. Great design, all right. We're 391 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: talking about after the storm issues, whether there was drainage 392 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: issues on the property, or gutter issues or roof issues. 393 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: We've been talking about that, but middle of the show. 394 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm taking calls, and I can take calls 395 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: on any topic whatsoever, and then we will return to 396 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: that conversation at the top of the hour. Okay, and 397 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: right now, though, let's continue with calls. I want to 398 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: talk to Marie. Hey, Marie, welcome home. 399 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: Oh here, I am hi. 400 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: How are you here? 401 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 4: You are? 402 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 5: I call? This is a quick question here here in 403 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: North County and San Diego, and we have a two 404 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: story home built about I guess about thirty years ago 405 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 5: and stucco Tyler Riff and we had the flashing replaced 406 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 5: last November. You know, it gets rusting everything up here. 407 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 5: We're coastal, and I'm just wondering. I don't know anything 408 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: about building materials, but this flashing was is now kind 409 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 5: of rusting, and I don't think that's should be like 410 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 5: that after a year. You know, it was galvanized, and 411 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: I'm not sure what galvanized means, but I thought galvanized 412 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 5: means anti rust and it was primed and painted, so 413 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: I'm noticing a little bit of rust now, Is that right? 414 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: Kind of concerned about that. 415 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's not right. 416 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: We don't we don't have gutter. We don't. We don't 417 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: have gutters. 418 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: You know. 419 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: You were talking about specifically. 420 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry. Flashing is used for, I think to 421 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 5: draw the rain if it rains down, am I right? 422 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 5: Under tile? Is that correct? Well? 423 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: Flashing is designed to, uh to trim out the end 424 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: of or the edges of your flat roof plane to 425 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: any time it makes a turn from that horizontal position 426 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: from that flat plane. So let's say the flat plane 427 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: runs into a you know, a penetration like a like 428 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: a roof event that's coming through that flashing, right, the 429 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: transitions it from that uh, that horizontal to the vertical 430 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: or at the edge of your roof, the edge of 431 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: metal on the edge of your roof when they when 432 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: we finally reached the out you know, the bottom edge 433 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: of the roof. It's a piece of flashing that transitions 434 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: and drops that water off the edge of the roof 435 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: or you know things like that. So it's a it's 436 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: basically when the flat roofplane change has to change direction 437 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: because of something, uh that we use flashings and we'll 438 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: use flashing sometimes in the valleys of a roof where 439 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: two roof planes come together and make that little low 440 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: end seame. So what flashing specifically? 441 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: Uh? 442 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: Did it is starting to rust out real quick? 443 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 5: Oh, it's kind of like on this side. I just 444 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: noticed on the front now where we're coastal here, you know, 445 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 5: we're an infinitis. So I think everything rusts here. But 446 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: I think if it's galvanized this, I mean it should 447 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 5: not rust for a few years, you know, if it's 448 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 5: painted and kind of concern. 449 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. So galvanized flashings are my least 450 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: favorite flashings. I'm sorry to tell you that after the fact. Uh, 451 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: they're they're my least favorite flashings. Galvanized simply means that 452 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: it is a metal that has had a galvanic coating 453 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: put on it. And uh and so as a result, 454 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: if they you know, we are we are waterproof. Yes, 455 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: galvanized you know, like you like a feed trough outside 456 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: is galvanized metal. However, any crack in the galvanic coating, 457 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: and they tend to be fairly brittle, especially with age, 458 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: and they're they're notoriously attacked by coastal weather, heavy salt 459 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: content in the air, and so on. Any crack in 460 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: a galvanized coating exposes the non galvanic metal underneath and 461 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: rust can start, okay, And so number one, we like 462 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: to paint galvanized metal as quickly as possible, not leave 463 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: them fully exposed. And number two, I prefer edge metals 464 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: that are not galvanized, but that are powder coated from 465 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: the factory and whatever colors, because that kind of factory 466 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: powder coating, that's the kind of powder coating that's on 467 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: your car, okay, that's the kind of coatings that are 468 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: covering the metal sheets of your car. We would never 469 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: galvanize your car, okay, because just the movement of the 470 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: body and the flexing of the car panels would cause 471 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: that to crack and it would start rusting. So unfortunately, 472 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: it's not my preferred flashing material. I'd much rather have 473 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: a bonded powder coated material for flashings. Consider that. Let 474 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: me talk about this just for a couple of minutes. 475 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: On the other side of the break your Home with 476 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. This has been Home with 477 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast 478 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: on KFI AM six forty every Saturday morning from six 479 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: to eight Pacific time, and every Sunday morning from nine 480 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: to noon Pacific time, or anytime on demand on the 481 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app