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Speaker 2: And fourteen pastime comm and he's tending to be the

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Speaker 2: legendary mark.

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Speaker 3: Rowsing with us now was established a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Now they're sure it would be a million years before

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Speaker 2: you would trade Anthony Edwards for Victor Webbin Yama.

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Speaker 3: I have another trade proposal before. Oh, you got to

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Speaker 3: and there's a caveat with what I said. You sometimes

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Speaker 3: you not sometimes all the time.

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Speaker 2: There was no caveat. No, I'm saying, ask you say

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Speaker 2: anything about health. You just said idea no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I did, I said. The reason I'd be hesitant about

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Speaker 2: Wemby's future. The only reason the guys is like, as

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Speaker 2: you said, he's a unicorn. He's going to be I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I'm just concerned about him. Well,

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Speaker 2: he said that not the very first time I think

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: That's right, but that's the first time you talked about

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Speaker 3: the position. Yeah, the position can do both. They are

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Speaker 3: both spectacular players.

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Speaker 2: And here's here's another one, sir, would you trade Anthony

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Speaker 2: Edwards or chet Holme?

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Speaker 3: No, did you see homegrown last night? I did not

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Speaker 3: see Holmgroun last night. I saw his stat line and

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Speaker 2: It was nine for nine from the field, made both

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Speaker 2: of his three pointers, all of three three free throw attempts.

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Speaker 2: He had twenty three points and eleven rebounds. Talk about

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Speaker 2: a guy that he's seven to one, yet he plays

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Speaker 3: Which kid is so talented.

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Speaker 2: He is just scratching the surface because speaking of injuries,

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Speaker 4: Almost more than he's played. He missed an entire season.

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Speaker 3: He did. He had almost that that J. J. McCarthy's

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Speaker 3: situation where his rookie season he was out right the

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Speaker 3: from scratch. We watched him in high school. Gangly kid,

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Speaker 3: lots of skill. But you're thinking, well, he's gonna have

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Speaker 3: these men in the paint. But again, like so many

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Speaker 3: he's got the green light to go ahead and you know,

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Speaker 3: and does so. He can block shots, he can do everything,

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Speaker 3: and he's turned out to be quite a fine for Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: He's averaging nineteen point six points eight point nine boards

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Speaker 2: throw line. Here's what he Here's here's what he said.

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Speaker 2: He said, I've learned how to get better Now I

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Speaker 2: love to play basketball every day. But going through a

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Speaker 2: best shot in those teams. They know your strengths and

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Speaker 3: Work and you can tell you can tell that Ant

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Speaker 3: be beaten up on the Oswald's right now. They got

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Speaker 3: But they look more cohesive than they have. But I

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Speaker 4: That's a professional basketball team that takes their business seriously.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're the most talented team of the league, and

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Speaker 3: But they're not they're not taking nights off. You're right,

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Speaker 3: They only lost one and that was I think when

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Speaker 3: the Portland I think it was.

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Speaker 2: It says, would roller Coaster Rosie trade uh And for

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I always love that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we just want to make sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would definitely, Yes, this one is the one.

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious what your answering. Would you trade Anthony

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Speaker 3: I almost did? That was pretty funny. Would you trade

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Speaker 3: I'd have to think about that. The one that got away,

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Speaker 3: the one that got where's Alex Tuck? Tenna?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's still a Buffalo, But Buffalo

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Speaker 3: What they did?

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Speaker 2: Alex Tuck or Friar Tuck?

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Speaker 1: When how did I fall in love with Alex Tuck? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's playing for the No, that's too bad.

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Speaker 4: Being of hockey. We lost last night.

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Speaker 3: Surahbelly what's his name again?

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Speaker 1: Ten to be Macklin celebrini ce Celebration, Lebration.

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Speaker 2: He was pretty good his second time. He's been the

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Speaker 3: Yesper Jesper was not in the game. It was not

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Speaker 1: He didn't really have to do a whole lot, so

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Speaker 3: you know, it's just NHL system. It's hard to get

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Speaker 2: The thunderbeat Golden State last night in that game, and well,

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Speaker 2: Not committed to winning. And then in addition to that,

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Speaker 2: we got a fight.

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Speaker 3: No matter what.

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Speaker 2: It means you're just not playing hard.

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Speaker 3: You're just not doing whatever takes to win.

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Speaker 2: What's six weeks, eight weeks into the sea or eight

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Speaker 3: It's it's well for the Wolves quote sometimes after games. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but it's clearly you know, okay, see and the rest

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Speaker 4: know fired deservedly.

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Speaker 2: So, but where's ownership in this thing? I mean, do

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they did well.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there was a line of communication that was open,

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Speaker 3: but Nico sold the idea that getting an off injured

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Speaker 2: But what I guess what I'm saying is he you know,

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Speaker 2: Say about this though, I think that Luca ought to

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Speaker 2: because you remember what Nico said was he basically he's pudgying.

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Speaker 2: So he motivated Luca into getting and which I would

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Speaker 3: The only time I think it's ever been done was

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Speaker 3: like fifty a game. Basically, Yeah, I still, I mean

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Speaker 3: everybody questioned it at the time, like what are you thinking?

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Speaker 3: And when you trade a guy, when you trade your

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Speaker 3: with the consequences now they had they didn't sell out

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many years the other night, so

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Speaker 3: the fans are rebelling, they are irritated. They're three and eight.

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Speaker 3: The MAVs are three and eight. They're bringing up the

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Speaker 3: rear in the Western Conference. And after watching that team,

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Speaker 2: Been interesting to see if Kyrie had stayed That's probably

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Speaker 2: these guys are our camp stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: If Kyrie stayed healthy and.

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Speaker 2: Street close, because they would have been a formidable team.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they would have been as good, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean that was there. They were thinking that that

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Speaker 2: There was number one because he was doing the defense

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Speaker 3: But we will never know, and so and I don't

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Speaker 2: Dennis Wazac is an NFL writer for the Associated Press.

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Speaker 2: it's authorized gaming operators we Measory Baseball said it's authorized

440
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Speaker 2: gaming operators to cap bets on individual pitches at two

441
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: hundred dollars and exclude them from parlays, a day after

442
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 2: two Cleveland Guardian players were indicted and accused of ringing

443
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: pitches at the behest of gamblers. MLB said the limits

444
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: were agreed to by sportbook operators representing more than ninety

445
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 2: eight percent of the US betty market. The league said

446
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: in a statement that pitch level bets on outcomes of

447
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: pitch velocity and balls and strikes present heightened integrity risks

448
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: because they focus on one off events that can be

449
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: determined by a single player and can be inconsequential to

450
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Speaker 2: the out come of the game. League went on to

451
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: say the risk on these pitch level markets will be

452
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: significantly mitigated by this new action, target at the incentive

453
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: to engage in misconduct. The creation of a strict bet

454
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: limit on this type of bet and the ban on

455
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: parlaying them reduces the payout for these markets and the

456
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Speaker 2: ability to circumvent.

457
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: The new limit.

458
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: Pictures of Manual Clays and Lewis Ortiz were indicted Sunday

459
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 2: and US Just Recording Brooklyn on charges they took bribes

460
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: from sports betters to throw certain types of pitches.

461
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 3: They were charged with wire fraud.

462
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: Conspiracy, honest services wire fraud, conspiracy, conspiracy to influence sporting

463
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: contests by bribery, and money laundry. In conspiracy, the Heman

464
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: says the two helped two unnamed gamblers in the Dominican

465
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 2: Republic win at.

466
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Speaker 4: Least four hundred and sixty thousand dollars.

467
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: On bets placed on the speed and outcome on certain pitches,

468
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: including some that landed and.

469
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: The dirt that the players are denied. Yeah the attorneys

470
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 3: are saying that already, and they've been I think whether

471
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: or not they they're able to even play baseball this year,

472
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: there's so many elements. So this in the wake of

473
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 3: what happened with the NBA and and uh betting scandal

474
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: and the poker situation and everything else that's going on,

475
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 3: and it's going to force leagues to, I think, just

476
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 3: abandon these prop bets. I mean that in itself, the

477
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: idea that these pitchers was a class A. I think

478
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: that's what I promise. I'm not sure, but I mean

479
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: they that's in that same article common This is Prosecutors

480
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 3: alleged Ortiz was paid a total listen to this, twelve

481
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: thousand dollars to intentionally throw a ball instead of a

482
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 3: strike in two Major League Baseball games, twelve thousand dollars,

483
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: and class the allegedly received matching payments for his role

484
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: in helping to arrange Ortiz's rig pitches, winning at least

485
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: sixty thousand. How much money this guy's making, I mean

486
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: twelve thousand and sixty thousand, they make that in a game,

487
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: in an inning, And so you're thinking to yourself, well,

488
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: what what are they? What are they doing? And they

489
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: showed I saw some high lights and they showed a

490
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: couple of pitches, and you go, well, I threw the

491
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: ball in the dirt, and it can happen at any time.

492
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: But this is really serious stuff when you start talking

493
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: about that and how they got involved in rigging pitches

494
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: with people that maybe they knew and the betters, would

495
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: you know they were making four hundred grand, as you mentioned,

496
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: they may have astonishing. They may have been getting a

497
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: cut of that. Well, they may have. I mean, I

498
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: mean even then, I mean they just kind of go,

499
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: what's the upside of this? I mean, and obviously they

500
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: they here, they're not going to get caught.

501
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but twelve they said, hey, if you throw it,

502
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: throw on in the dirt and I'll give you twelve grand.

503
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: You go, okay, why don't they work with the Twins

504
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: pitchers because they're throwing balls in the dirt all the time.

505
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't think they had to be. I don't think

506
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: anybody approached Louis.

507
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Varlin when he was here and said, I mean, I'm

508
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: not trying to excuse it. To me, it's just money's money.

509
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: People are well, again, the more money, it's when it's

510
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: easy money.

511
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: It's the same thing that happened in the NBA. You

512
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 3: can get when you say you.

513
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 4: Throw one ball into the dirt, twelve grand you go,

514
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: I'll take it?

515
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: Why not sure? And what the end?

516
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: What we'll be saying is like, that's not like throwing

517
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: a game. It can be rather inconsequential. If you throw

518
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: one ball in the dirt, it's ball one. Then if

519
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: you strike the guy out, what's the difference. I'm not

520
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying that makes it okay, But

521
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: I think major League Baseball is even saying, you know,

522
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: it's just it's easier to I guess they figure it's

523
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: it's it's easier to police this because it's a one

524
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: it's a one off pitch.

525
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: That's not really you know, it's not like a bunch

526
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: of yeah right, they're in then on it. Yeah. The

527
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: betters would wager speed and type of class as pitches

528
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: based on the information they received in advance, sometimes even

529
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: during games. That's the one thing. What are the in

530
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: between games are getting on their phone, going going to

531
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: the locker and texting them saying, Okay, next inning, I'm

532
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: gonna throw a couple of pitches in the dirt. Go

533
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 3: ahead and put you know, a couple of you know,

534
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: I guess that's what they do. Man, It's it's incredible.

535
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: Well and we're in we're scene, you know, they're there have.

536
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 3: Been all sorts of the Rosie thing.

537
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: Like I said in the NFL, well exactly, we're just

538
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: coming off the NWN racing. You have points of shaving

539
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: and telling people you're only going to play this long.

540
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: So the over and under how many points you score,

541
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: And you wonder even how much more widespread it is

542
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: not just in Major League Baseball, in the NBA, but

543
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: in all sports.

544
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Well, the temptation that we're talking about high paid pro athletes,

545
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 3: you're thinking the temptation of college athletes and what's out

546
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: there right now with the exposure. And again I've I've

547
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: talked about it as we what we were just watching.

548
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: I think Mayo was in the other rumor with you.

549
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: I always get confused watching Litenna. There's a betting show

550
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: right now in NBA on ESPN. Okay, the guy's laying

551
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 3: and he said, you know, take Texas plus six and

552
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 3: a half points this weekend in their game. I don't

553
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: even know where they're playing, And I'm thinking, you're you're

554
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: some college kid that's you know, that's sitting in your

555
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: dorm room and you're looking at this, you're watching this game,

556
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: and you're going, you know, I got got my phone,

557
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: I got I got access to a few hundred bucks whatever,

558
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Texas plus six and a half.

559
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: This is.

560
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: And then you go, well, how important is it going

561
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: to be at some point where the quarterback is going

562
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 3: to get influenced and going you talk about nil money,

563
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: I got three hundred thousand in the bank waiting for

564
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: you if you're throwing it in, you know, the completion

565
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: or an interception here. You know, this stuff is opening

566
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: up a whole different world. And I never imagine that

567
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: the leagues would be in bed with the gambling sites

568
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: and everything that's going on. And now they're kind of

569
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: caught going, what are we going to do? Well, they're

570
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 3: trying to put their finger in the dike over here

571
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: to say we're not going to allow prop bets anymore,

572
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: or you know, parlay bets on this and this and this,

573
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: and the meantime it's just you.

574
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: You talk about quarterbacks and how much they could influence

575
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: a bet easily. I mean you could if you could

576
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: go to a quarterback and say, you know, he intentionally

577
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: has a bad game.

578
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: You can overthrow balls, throw balls in.

579
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: The dirt, get sacked just throwing completion, throw interceptions in

580
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: Unless you look at it with a microscore, you wouldn't know.

581
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: I just say, get out a bad date, a bad game,

582
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: and it happens.

583
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's just again. I want a kind

584
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: of a stunning series of events between the NBA and

585
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: then this story that the betting scandal now in Major

586
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: League Baseball with these two pitchers on the same team,

587
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: and one of them I think class it wasn't a

588
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: cy young candidate. I mean he was arguably when.

589
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: He told me he's got a twenty million dollars, he

590
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: had a twenty million dollars contract. So yeah, you're right

591
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: when you think about twelve thousand dollars, it certainly wouldn't seem.

592
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: You don't want to risk that.

593
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't don't understand just a matter of time before

594
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: this is going to happen, and this is probably even

595
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: more widespread than we even know. Right, we don't know

596
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: it in this date because we can't do a lot

597
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: of this butt like in Illinois, like you can live

598
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: bet what's this golfer going to do on his next shot?

599
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: Like a golfer cod easy to take a shot, right,

600
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean sure.

601
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: From say Tennebe is going to slice this into the woods.

602
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: That would be like minus twelve hundred, so that you

603
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't get great hots on that not a good idea, Yes,

604
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: for sure.

605
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: It sounds like Rosie you're blaming NFL spread swing for

606
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: participating a problem of gambling.

607
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: I am as all the young kids. I'm doing my

608
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: part by being in last place right now. So don't

609
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: listen to me. Uh used to be deuced now it's

610
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 3: me so uh, that's that's for fun. We're not. We're not.

611
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 3: We have nothing at risk other than the fact that

612
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: I have the bet with ten about Denver beating the

613
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: And I think I'm going to say this right now

614
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: and we'll do Spress Spring tomorrow. I think Kansas City

615
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: you'll beat the Broncos this week. And yeah, I even

616
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: like it's a game. And I think the game is

617
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: in Denver too. I don't know, I don't I'm not

618
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: impressed with the Broncos right now. But you want to

619
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: get out of our bet? No, no, no, I don't

620
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: want to get out of it because I just don't

621
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 3: I don't do it. Do you think Philadelphia is going

622
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 3: to beat Detroit? I do? Are you going to be? Oh,

623
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: we have another one.

624
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Of our big bets bets confident.

625
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: I am in the kiddies, I know you are, so

626
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: that you have a right to be four six bucks?

627
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: What six bucks? Man? You're digging deep? No points, none

628
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: of that.

629
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: No, just straight up, the kiddies, you probably good points.

630
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't want Detroit.

631
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 2: I don't need though it's in Philly. I don't need

632
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: two and a half or something there. I don't need points.

633
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Picking straight out. I mean, it's been more impressive overall.

634
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Philly just wins games.

635
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: They just you know, they have the poise they have,

636
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: you know, they're even the other night, the game against

637
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Green Bay, it's just like you just kind of feel

638
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: they're going to come up with a big play.

639
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: It.

640
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: I may figure it out, you know me.

641
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: I love defensive battles, but even even I was getting

642
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: a little tired of that game after that was a

643
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: little I mean the defense, I think some of was

644
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: was was was inadequate offense as well, but a lot

645
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: of it was defense.

646
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: Man, those teams not a good night for the floor

647
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: and Jordan Love either, that's for sure.

648
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: Well, I saw a story and I didn't read it.

649
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: I just saw the headline. You know, it's little Floor

650
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 3: on the hot seat. I saw. Would he be on

651
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: the on the hot seat? Why?

652
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's on the hot like the first

653
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: couple of years, like one of the winningest coaches in.

654
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: The history, I don't I don't understand. How again is

655
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: that you know, some writer coming up with this going

656
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: against the wall? I mean I don't know. Yes, that

657
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: happen a lot. I've done it.

658
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: You know, everybody does it in the media, to throw

659
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: something against the well.

660
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: So many teams. We're concentrating so much here because of

661
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: what's going on with the young quarterback and how KOs

662
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: is calling the game. And that's fine, it's all, you know,

663
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: it's open season on that sort of thing. That's all

664
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: fans get involved in the game. But the idea that

665
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: management somehow is going to respond to it, I mean,

666
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: there's there's so many coaches they get fired for any

667
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: number of reasons, mostly for losing. We already watched, you know,

668
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: the Giants lose, you know, fire their head coach already

669
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: after losing to the Bears.

670
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: Left that team is what you would like to call

671
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: a hot mess.

672
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to call him a hot mess. Yeah,

673
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: but uh, you know they lost, you know, their quarterback.

674
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: And I think I think where's Winston playing? Is he

675
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: starting this week? James Winston Giants? He started for the

676
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: Giants for the New York Football Giants. Yeah, that guy

677
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: keeps finding No, he finds another life, and good for him.

678
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: I like watching him. He's he's he's a fun player

679
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: to one like him. I don't mind Jameis Winston. I

680
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: mean he's a little bit better than should the Vikings

681
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: trade for him and start? I know, what, did you.

682
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: You like?

683
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: The Bikings against the Bears this week would be mine?

684
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, not. I mean, I'm not like head

685
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: over heels over it. I mean, the Bear has been

686
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: playing pretty well. Again, it's not their fault. They haven't

687
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: played it even be the team with a winning record.

688
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: It's not that they got a last play schedule. That's

689
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: what they that's what they play. Now it's gonna get

690
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: a little different. And yeah, I mean I think I

691
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: want to believe that what the Vikings did in Detroit

692
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: and playing so well against the Lions and putting the

693
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: pressure on Golf and and stopping the Lions running game

694
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: and doing all the things and McCarthy, you know, after

695
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: especially after Detroit scored that opening touchdown and McCarthy moving

696
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: the team down the field. You know, these are crucial

697
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: games right now. The Vikings have two more divisional games

698
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: the next two weeks, Bears here and then they go

699
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: to green Bay. You got to win both those. You

700
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: gotta win all your divisional games. They go to Seattle

701
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: the following week. I don't they will not not only

702
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: not be favored. That's that's probably that's probably a loss.

703
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I don't see them winning that

704
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: game against old Samy Darnold. And then they got Washington here. No, no, no,

705
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: But they have a schedule now that's a little bit

706
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: more favorable on paper, you know, Washington here at Dallas

707
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: at the Giants. Then they played Detroit here on Christmas Day.

708
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: You like this club? No, I mean, I know, I'm

709
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: just saying that there. If you want to project a team,

710
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: you know, fighting for a playoff spot in December, you know,

711
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: I don't look at them as much more. I mean,

712
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: I think if they're close to five hundred you know,

713
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: and we'll see how the rest of the league kind

714
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: of works itself out here with you know, there's a

715
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: lot of good teams in the West, as we've seen.

716
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you get the Rams, San Francisco, and Seattle.

717
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Are all three of those teams going to make it

718
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: this year? I mean, that's pretty hard to say that

719
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: they're not.

720
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Well.

721
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: One division winner and two wildcard teams. That doesn't leave

722
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: you with a lot. So I mean, they have to

723
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: take care of business, that's all I mean. I I've

724
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: resigned myself to think that you know, what you see

725
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: is what you get right now, that the objective for

726
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: the rest of the season is obviously to play at

727
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: a high level defensively, but to see what McCarthy can do. Now,

728
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: he's got a bandage on his right hand, something not

729
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: to be worried about until he sales at first pass

730
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: to Justin Jefferson on Sunday and people go, oh boy,

731
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: it's his hand is hurting. You know, he's for whatever reason,

732
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: he just has not connected with JJ. I don't know

733
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: if it's just if he's feeling the pressure that that

734
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: you know that inherent with uh, you know, having the

735
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: number one receiver arguably in the game, and that koc

736
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: is talking about it all the time. But he's always

737
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: seemed more comfortable throw the ball to Addison and or

738
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: Speedy as they like to call him, Jalen Naylor. He

739
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: just hasn't gotten into a rhythm. Well, he threw a

740
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: beautiful ball right away the first part of the game

741
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 3: on Sunday, But I would I would throw some safe

742
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: patterns to Jefferson just to kind of get it, get

743
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: those guys into a rhythm. Throw it eight yard outs

744
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: or whatever. Just don't have to go for the home run.

745
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: Bosive coordinator. I'm trying to be listening to me though.

746
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Ye are we even sure they should be playing McCarthy

747
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: because he's not one hundred percent?

748
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: Well, he should only be playing off he's a percent. Wow,

749
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: I think he's I don't know. I mean that's what

750
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: that was there. Did he have a swell swelling in

751
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: his hand? What was Yeah, take a bandage on his hand. Yeah,

752
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: they downplayed it, but they downplayed it now until after

753
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: the game. Then we'll hear that he could barely squeeze them,

754
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 3: you know, rubber ball or whatever to kind of get

755
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: his hand going. Max Brosber was warming up in the bullpen.

756
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: What if he's brilliant Sunday JJ.

757
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: No, if ro starts and is brilliant, He's not going

758
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: to start unless he has a huge setback.

759
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: But that would be fun. I mean, fans, you know,

760
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 3: we always like to root for the backup quarterback. It's

761
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: just the nature of the NFL almost almost, you know,

762
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: going back to Josh Dobbs playing here, always to back up.

763
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: It says, enough of the quack quack Rosie. What's the

764
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: update on you? N PA's Twitter beef beef? There's literally

765
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: what's going on. There's literally no beef. I don't know

766
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: what these guys are talking about. There was a beef

767
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: zero beef. You quit, you quit.

768
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: Trying to stir the I'm just I literally was talking

769
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: for the for the last time. I'll just say this.

770
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: PA was talking about young quarterbacks, uh, first four starts

771
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: in their in their careers, and he mentioned a whole

772
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: bunch of them. Uh and he and again this is

773
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: a whole different are This is sixty years ago with

774
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: fran Tarkinen and he said in France, first four starts,

775
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: he had, you know, these minuscule numbers, which is true.

776
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: But I said, I don't think you can say that

777
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: without throwing in the fact that fran Tarkanen came off

778
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: the bench in the first game of this franchise's history

779
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: and through me, they weren't throwing the ball very much

780
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: back then, through four touchdown passes, no interceptions in one

781
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: of the biggest upsets in the NFL history at that

782
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: time in NFL history. Absolutely, the Bears were probably I

783
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: don't know, at that time, the Bears were a monster.

784
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: The Vikings were an expansion team that threw a bunch

785
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: of guys off the street on the game into the

786
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: game and in the uniform of North Van Brocklin. Well, yeah,

787
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: I probably was there. I mean, I don't know what

788
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: that was. If they had been, there have been point spreads.

789
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure there were, But I mean they would have

790
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: been twenty four to twenty seven point underdogs in that

791
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: game against the Bears. They were the monsters of the Midway.

792
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: So against top of ri did coming off so much

793
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: point what Carthy did against the Bears in the very

794
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: first game of the season, Well McCarthy started that game,

795
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: Oh he did. George Shaw started the game. That was

796
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: my point. So PA excluded that. I just said look,

797
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: if you're going to throw that, throw that in there,

798
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: you got to acknowledge the fact that Tarking and came

799
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 3: off the bench and did what he did. And then

800
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: they the Vikings were a horrible expansion team. They won

801
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: three games that year. They got blown out Tarkting. It

802
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 3: was not good for a long time. But the first

803
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: game was so I mean, if you're going to talk

804
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: about that stuff, so there's no beef. I just pointing

805
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: something out. Did he come back at you? He didn't

806
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 3: come back at me. He just pointed something out about

807
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: the stats. I went, yeah, you're right. They from a

808
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 3: starting standpoint, Fran wasn't very good, but the team wasn't

809
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: good A great okay, yeah better than you? Yeah, well,

810
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean that would be too. I'm just kidding. No, Yeah,

811
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: we got all fine. I don't. I mean, I don't

812
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: see Pa all that often. It seemed during jump in

813
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: the broadcast booth on Sundays, and I watched him operate

814
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: and then I do my little post game thing with

815
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 3: must and yeah, he's he's it's a national treasure.

816
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: He is a treasure. Any questions, No, there's no beef.

817
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: All right, God, because trying to stir up the controversy. Well, I.

818
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: Public on Twitter. It was it a beef. I was

819
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: just pointing out something about Fran and and just a

820
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: caveat to say Fran was awful in his first four starts,

821
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: but let's keep in mind he threw four touchdown passes

822
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: in his first game coming off the bench. Why are

823
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: we glossing over?

824
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: Warren said about Pa moving on to be the Chicago.

825
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: That I have no idea. But I had no comment

826
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: about that because I don't know anything about it.

827
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 4: About you glossing over your beef with.

828
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: The Jets, glossing over lots of beef. Yeah, you got

829
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: lots of be eve with a lot of people. I

830
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: don't have a beef with them. I just sit there,

831
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: a dysfunctional organization, awful.

832
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: I had another music saves him, and then one more

833
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: thing about the job.

834
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: And that I got the inside scoop on that. Yeahret's

835
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: swinging tomorrow one thirty. Yeah I don't. Yeah, you made

836
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: brother a doucecream meal participate tomorrow, I think, so okay,

837
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: all right.

838
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: He's now going to work really early because he's running

839
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: before work instead of afterward.

840
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: Because it's too dark when he gets home. It is dark.

841
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: So oh he was just he's getting up. He's leaving

842
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: the house.

843
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: At like six am to get to work seven o'clock.

844
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: Where does he get that work ethic from? I don't know.

845
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Hey, no, but I got to beat with my work ethic.

846
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: He's got to beef with everybody. We'll see him out

847
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: one thirty Tammy. Thanks for having me.

848
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: Hey, great job, are you as well? We enjoyed a

849
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: visit with you.

850
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Today, and uh, we'll talk to himorrow on twelve moons

851
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: Stick around a big ticket.

852
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: J G their next right here on the fan. Good

853
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: night folks, good night Mistless. Wherever you go, Jack check.

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