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Speaker 2: All right, and again, if you are a member of

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of ads you have to listen to,

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Speaker 2: like on any podcast, you know, get used to it.

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Speaker 2: But if you missed last hour, and if you have

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Speaker 2: a friend who's a member of the again a local

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Speaker 2: governing board, I encourage you to tell them to send

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Speaker 2: a letter, just as these folks from North Reading did

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Speaker 2: from Reading. If you're not North Reading. Melissa Murphy, the

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Speaker 2: vice chair of the Border Selectmen, the select Board, and

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Speaker 2: Chris Haley, the chair, they're basically saying to the legislative leaderships. Hey,

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Speaker 2: do your job, do your job and comply with the

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Speaker 2: audit as the voters instructed you to do back in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. A simple as that, and I'd love

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Speaker 2: to see that this first letter gives others the courage

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Speaker 2: to send letters from every city in town. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's going to happen, but we get a

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Speaker 2: lot of cities and towns to send letters. I'll announce

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Speaker 2: and it will bring some pressure to air. It's as

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Speaker 2: simple as that. But you got to help out here

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Speaker 2: because there are members of again, these local governments.

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Speaker 3: It's you know what it is, it's the.

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Speaker 2: Aldermen Selectmen, Board of Alderman Board of Selectmen, or city councilors.

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Speaker 2: And speaking about city councilors, let's talk about a Boston

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Speaker 2: City council. In the Herald today read a very interesting

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Speaker 2: article was mentioned to me last night by one of

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Speaker 2: our callers actually, which caused me to look for this.

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Speaker 2: Boston City councilor Julia Mahea has introduced a home rule

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Speaker 2: petition Wednesday that would extend voting rights to non citizens

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Speaker 2: who have legal status. That is about believing or not

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Speaker 2: in Boston twenty eight percent of the city's population according

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Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty census. So what does this mean?

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Speaker 2: Tell you what it means. What it means is that

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Speaker 2: it would enable people who are non citizens. We're not

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Speaker 2: talking about illegal aliens here. We're not talking about people

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Speaker 2: guess they may have a visa to live here. It's

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Speaker 2: a little unclear what Mahia wants or who would be

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Speaker 2: us on that, but the councilor apparently chose not to

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Speaker 3: So that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I will simply try to represent what she is attempting

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Speaker 2: to do. So Boston has a population, according to the

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Speaker 2: Boston has lost a lot of population over recent years.

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Speaker 2: They have picked up the population in the Seaport district,

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Speaker 3: So what.

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Speaker 2: Progressive democrats across America have done. Is they engage in

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Speaker 2: what's called incrementalism, so they know they can't get it

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Speaker 2: legals to vote. They might hope they do, but they're

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Speaker 2: not going to be that brazen, and they know that

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Speaker 2: People who are here legally. I mean, there are people

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Speaker 2: they're on the path to citizenship. But citizenship is what

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Speaker 2: gives people the right to vote. Not the fact that

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Speaker 2: So we have an effort here, and it's been done

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Speaker 2: it's still symbolically, I think is very important because I

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Speaker 2: I can easily say they've lost their minds, but they

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Speaker 2: have an agenda, which is to get people as many

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Speaker 2: there are important decisions to be made as to who

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Speaker 2: If you win a state, be it Massachusetts, Texas, Florida, California, Illinois, whatever,

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Speaker 2: the last time the Republicans carried Massachusetts was in nineteen

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Speaker 2: Well, he carried excuse me strike that he carried Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, Walter Mondale was the Democratic nominee. The

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Speaker 2: he carried forty nine states. But those were sort of

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Speaker 2: because the point they make is let them vote in

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Speaker 2: the elections of the communities where they live, cities and towns.

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Speaker 2: They're not saying at this point let them vote in

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Speaker 2: congressional elections, although once they get them the right to

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Speaker 2: vote in cities and towns, the next step logically with

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Speaker 2: incrementalism is to say, well, they should be able to

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Speaker 2: vote for governors because they live their citizens in Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: and they pay taxes the same theory they pay taxes

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Speaker 2: If you're a homeowner and you're a citizen in Boston,

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Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, you're a citizen in Boston, you then

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Speaker 2: have the right to vote. If you're not a citizen

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Speaker 2: in Boston, you don't have a right to vote in

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Speaker 2: you can be a citizen of Worcester. You coun't vote

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Speaker 2: in Boston. In Boston, period, you vote in Massachusetts because

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Speaker 2: United States. But the progressives in the Democratic Party, which

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Speaker 2: they are going to push items like this in this agenda,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear from you. We had one call

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Speaker 2: many as you as possible, because this will spread like wildfire.

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Speaker 2: And the idea is that once you have non citizens

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Speaker 3: Again. We'll be back on Nightside. The lines are wide

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Speaker 3: open right now, let's light them up.

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Speaker 1: Night Side Thought with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about whether or not non citizens should

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Speaker 2: be allowed to vote in Boston elections.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Do I think this is going to pass? I really don't.

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Speaker 2: But I think what this is is just the insistence

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Speaker 2: for example, the proposed petition here in Boston states that

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Speaker 2: non citizen voting rights have been granted in eleven municipalities

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Speaker 2: in Maryland to in Vermont, San Francisco, and New York City. Again,

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Speaker 2: trying to give you a point of view of the

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Speaker 2: of the urgency of this issue has only grown at

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Speaker 2: a time when immigrant communities are facing increasing attacks, harmful

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Speaker 2: This is about morale and whether our immigrant neighbors feel seen,

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Speaker 2: And that's I think you're right. I think that your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, yeah. And if you look at the governor

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Speaker 3: We come back.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: This is a fifty eight second sound bite exactly what

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Speaker 5: I need people who are high net worth to support

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Speaker 2: Late Governor Hochel, the horses, the thoroughbred horses have already

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that Hoku.

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Speaker 2: Should have issued apology and should have said I was wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's the simplest that Bill. I'll let you get back

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, I got wide open lines. If you're not

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting topic in it itself that we just

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Speaker 2: heard Governor Heally talking about hunting on Sundays. I don't

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Speaker 6: How are you Yes? I think Tacoma Park was the

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Speaker 6: American citizens. We want to we want to build American

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Speaker 6: whoever you are. If you were born here and you

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Speaker 6: want to be an American, we want to build you

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Speaker 6: as an American. Right We're not We're not that type

436
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Speaker 6: of people to shun you out. But when you take

437
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Speaker 6: what we've worked for, then we have a problem, right Dan.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's my that's my view of it.

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Speaker 2: I also think that our immigration system is is kind

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Speaker 2: of upside down in the sense that we should welcome

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Speaker 2: people uh to come here, uh, but they need to

442
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Speaker 2: come here with a skill set which is going to

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Speaker 2: add to the general to the general welfare, to the

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Speaker 2: to the community. I mean, if people decide they want

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Speaker 2: to come here and somehow immediately you know, get some

446
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Speaker 2: benefits from the country, that's not the way it works.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day, when people when there was a

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Speaker 2: great immigration uh you know, arrival whenever it was, they

449
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Speaker 2: came here with sponsors.

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Speaker 3: There were there were no social programs for them.

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Speaker 2: They they had to have someone who would promise that

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Speaker 2: they would take care of them. And I think you

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Speaker 2: turn it around now and when someone applies, I think

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Speaker 2: you've got to take into consideration how old they are.

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Speaker 2: If they're coming here in there eighty five years of age,

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Speaker 2: what can they can contribute in the in the balance

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Speaker 2: of their life.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But if you're younger, I think that should be a consideration.

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Speaker 2: If you're able to do physical labor, I think that's

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Speaker 2: an asset. That's not to say that people who can't

462
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Speaker 2: do physical labor might not be welcomed, but they need

463
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Speaker 2: to be able to contribute something. Maybe they're a computer programmer.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just think that if we have if we're going

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Speaker 2: to have an immigration system, let's have it.

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Speaker 3: So it benefits the United States.

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Speaker 2: I use the example Patrick all the time that if

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Speaker 2: you're a lawyer from Ireland, we got enough lawyers. And

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Speaker 2: even though I'm Irish and I love seeing people from

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Speaker 2: Ireland come to America, you got to go to.

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Speaker 3: The back of the line.

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Speaker 2: If you're a doctor or a nurse, I don't care

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Speaker 2: where you're from. We need doctors, we need nurses. Do

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Speaker 2: you know how tough it is to get a doctor today,

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Speaker 2: a general practitioner.

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Speaker 3: It's nigh on impossible.

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Speaker 6: I hate to have to, I would really hate to

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Speaker 6: have to. But when as first of all, with the

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Speaker 6: state of Maryland, the president of the Maryland Senate has

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Speaker 6: held off to doing any redistricting voting, and he was

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Speaker 6: nationally chastised by the man from New York who was

483
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Speaker 6: the minority leader in the House of Representatives. My gosh,

484
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Speaker 6: I couldn't believe that. But Senate Maryland Senate President mister

485
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Speaker 6: Ferguson says, it's unnecessary, it's not really going to add anything.

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Speaker 2: And I think, well, I believe that if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong here. But in the

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Speaker 2: Maryland delegation. There's only one Republican.

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Speaker 6: Correct, and they want to get rid of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, you know, there's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of overkill there, in.

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Speaker 6: My opinion, announce that they announced that, Yeah, we want

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Speaker 6: to get rid of you. Wait a minute, you're announcing

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Speaker 6: the reason why you're doing this is to get rid

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Speaker 6: of this one guy. Well what about all the people

496
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Speaker 6: that voted for him?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in Massachusetts with us, we're similar to Maryland.

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Speaker 2: We have nine congressional districts and they're all Democrats. There's

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Speaker 2: there's no Republican. Now again, in Massachusetts there's probably forty

501
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Speaker 2: percent of the people have voted for Republicans. But it

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Speaker 2: isn't a question if you're going to get forty percent

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Speaker 2: of the voter will be Republican. No, you're going to

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Speaker 2: be an all democratic state, just like just like Maryland.

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Speaker 3: I think you have.

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Speaker 2: I think it's you have six members in your in

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Speaker 2: your congressional delegation. If I'm not mistaken, I'll figure it

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Speaker 2: out here in a second.

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Speaker 6: But what I wanted to add to you tonight, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I like that term prima facia evidence.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 6: If I'm saying it.

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Speaker 2: Right, prima facia. Prima facia. Yep, it's Latin meaning it's obvious.

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Speaker 6: Yep, prima facia. Evidence. The district of Columbia has magically

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Speaker 6: turned around where I do not recognize what a nice

516
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Speaker 6: place it is. Holy Cow, I did my tour duty

517
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Speaker 6: on the streets and you're seeing seeing single Causasian women

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Speaker 6: walking downtown all by themselves, groups of maybe three or

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Speaker 6: four college aged girls out out on the town walking

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Speaker 6: the streets, friends and people. There's people in restaurants, there's

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Speaker 6: the high rises and new stores. What the heck happened

522
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Speaker 6: to this town? It is just like transformed itself to

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Speaker 6: like the like you know where we go to oz

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Speaker 6: Os are so nice. The Emerald City.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope it stays that way. What are the

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Speaker 2: numbers showing in terms of crime? As are the murder

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Speaker 2: rate and all that down.

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Speaker 6: I didn't look at what that is. But I did

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Speaker 6: not feel driving through the streets of Washington, DC that

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Speaker 6: I had to be totally looking around my head this way,

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Speaker 6: back my head that way, looking behind, and gooking over there,

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Speaker 6: looking at coming over here. It was. It was nice.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I was able to pull there's parts of DC that

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Speaker 2: have always been you know what you I guess you

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Speaker 2: would call the Capitol hilly area, which is populated by

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Speaker 2: members of Congress and their Staffs's got nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with where they're from geographically, got nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: racial elements or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: They do well.

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Speaker 2: The poor sections, the southeast sections of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Is where most of the crime has been occurring. As

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Speaker 2: I understand it. Georgetown, which was kind of the wealthy,

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Speaker 2: kind of the equivalent of the back Bay. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that they've had a lot of crime, but but

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Speaker 2: you will have crime spilling over. So hey, you know,

547
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Speaker 2: keep us posted. I asked you to take that tour,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate that you've followed up and and are

549
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Speaker 2: given a report. I got to figure out what's going

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Speaker 2: on down there. Is there still a major you know,

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Speaker 2: National Guard presence, and do you see troops walking the street?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Where I was to where I we's been around and

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Speaker 6: I haven't gone to the to the Capitol Building because

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Speaker 6: I just want to stay away from Pennsylvania average as

556
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Speaker 6: much as possible. But I don't see that where I'm

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Speaker 6: at at the times that I'm there because I can

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Speaker 6: do it odd hours.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, look, keep us posted, keep us posted.

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Speaker 2: Patrick again, I know that you're very much interested in

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Speaker 2: civil defense, and that's that's an important topic. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get to that some night as well, I promise.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, we're gonna have to or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Thanks Thanks Patrick, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Have a great one, right, good night, all right, I

566
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Speaker 2: got I got a couple of open lines here. I'd

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Speaker 2: love to carry this conversation. I'm not sure we will

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Speaker 2: uh into the eleven but six one seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: My friend William is coming up next, William from Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: And there are folks here.

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Speaker 3: In New England.

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Speaker 2: You we were allowed to call night side six one seven, two, five,

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Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: And for the record, the Maryland Congressional delegation almost mirror's Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: It has eight members, seven Democrats and one lonely Republican.

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Speaker 2: And I guess Hakim Jeffries was not happy that there's

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Speaker 2: any Republicans out of Maryland. It has become a game, okay,

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Speaker 2: and the people who are losing in the game are citizens,

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Speaker 2: you and me? Is the Democrats are trying to squeeze

581
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Speaker 2: every member of Congress. The Republicans are doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them down there on both sides of

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Speaker 2: the aisle. They're looking to feather their own nests, all

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Speaker 2: of them. When they leave, they become lobbyist on most

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Speaker 2: of them become lobbyist on K Street. At what point

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Speaker 2: are the American people going to wake up and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got to start changing some of these situations up

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00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: and we did have representatives of both parties. I don't

589
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Speaker 2: want to see parties that are all Democrat, and I

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Speaker 2: don't want to see a state rather than the are

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Speaker 2: all Democrats and states that are all Republican. You need

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Speaker 2: to have both states represented. Not going to happen in

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts anytime soon, but I do think that the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party has an opportunity in Massachusetts, and I hope that

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party has an opportunity in Maryland. And I

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Speaker 2: hope the Democratic Party can get their act together and

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Speaker 2: find some good candidates in states where the Republicans are dominant.

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Speaker 3: Back at Nightside, right after this, It's Night Side.

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Speaker 1: With Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, back to the calls. We try to get everybody

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Speaker 2: in here. If not, we'll hold you over. Let me

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Speaker 2: go to William and Baltimore. William, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: How are you sir?

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Speaker 6: Oh right?

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Speaker 7: How you doing there?

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Speaker 3: Doing great? William? What's on your mind tonight?

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Speaker 8: He talked in my interests, man, with you saying how

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Speaker 8: they do it in inquiments? Right, yes, and look what

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Speaker 8: they do here in Maryland. You know we have twenty

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Speaker 8: three counties, like you said, eleven of them.

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Speaker 7: I didn't. I wasn't even away with that many of them.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 8: It was allowing these people to vote that they're not citizens, right,

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Speaker 8: But I'm not surprised because the way Maryland goes sold

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Speaker 8: in Massachuetts. Right, it's a lot of uh, it's a

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Speaker 8: lot of similarities in our states.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 8: We have, as I'm concerned, a terrible governor. I didn't

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Speaker 8: vote on him. I voted for a guy name I

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Speaker 8: just told I can't think of the bad name. I

621
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 8: was just thinking about it anyway. His opponent, he's a Democrat,

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Speaker 8: but he was a more moderate.

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Speaker 7: Democrat than this guy.

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Speaker 8: This is much more I think he's a bad choice

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Speaker 8: for Maryland and uh.

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Speaker 7: And then we have the mayor of.

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Speaker 8: Baltimore who's off the chaityatief or uh you know, I

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Speaker 8: just thought.

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Speaker 7: Like you said, people are not either paying attention or

630
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Speaker 7: they're not waking up to see.

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Speaker 8: What's going on, you know, because you know with Andy Harris,

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Speaker 8: like you said, he's the only Republican congressman we have

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Speaker 8: in Maryland, right, and they was trying to redistook him out,

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Speaker 8: but mil Phipps and he must have seen what was

635
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Speaker 8: gonna go on because if he did that, they said

636
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Speaker 8: he should go the way and flip and uh.

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Speaker 7: You know the court careole.

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Speaker 9: That uh you know Bius only had one republic and

639
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 9: they wind up with three years seventies on outsold they

640
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Speaker 9: would do it best so we would get more Republicans,

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Speaker 9: right because this state, man is Oh.

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Speaker 7: It's a mess. Man. As far as politically, I think

643
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Speaker 7: it's a mess. And uh, like you just said, man,

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Speaker 7: I think that, uh you know, Maryland's not gonna change.

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Speaker 8: And they run and people moving me into all the

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Speaker 8: people that have means they're leaving, you know.

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Speaker 9: And if I wasn't so old and group I leave

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Speaker 9: to you. You know, I was living in the Colorado

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Speaker 9: for six years. I regret that movement.

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Speaker 8: I regret leaving Colorado and come that against Colorado, they'd.

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Speaker 7: Have changed too. But all I'm saying is, hey man,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's just that I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you've had some republic Yeah, you've had some Republican governors.

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Speaker 2: You had, you know, Larry Hogan, and then then you

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Speaker 2: had not too long ago, elk. Yeah, okay, uh so,

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Speaker 2: but but that's like Massachusetts. We we sometimes would have

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Speaker 2: Republican governors. Uh, but you've got a tradition here of uh,

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Speaker 2: you know a lot of Democratic governors. Uh and whatever.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know much about Wes Moore. You know,

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Speaker 2: he seems to be a a pretty personable guy. You

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Speaker 2: know him better than I do. The Democrats are saying

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Speaker 2: he might be a vice presidential candidate. Maybe he's a

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Speaker 2: presidential candidate. Who knows you know.

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Speaker 7: Well, then the truth will come out about him. He

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Speaker 7: had a status in a three billion dollar deficit, you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, good's good.

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you he is well. I'll give he's educated.

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Speaker 9: But you know, some people.

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Speaker 7: Call him a smile and turny you know, and uh,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 3: He's well, he's what, he's a former US army officer.

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Speaker 2: So you would hope that having been in the army

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Speaker 2: and having understood, you know that people have to work together.

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Speaker 2: Because you got to do that in the army, that

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Speaker 2: maybe carried over to politics and maybe he'll be able.

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Speaker 3: To reach out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Hey, William, I got to scoot here

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Speaker 2: because I'm up on the eleven o'clock news. You got

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Speaker 2: to call more off and I enjoy our conversations.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I will I will, thank you. Dan. I just

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Speaker 7: wanted to you know, tune. I mean, you know, just

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Speaker 7: simon on that with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it. All right, Pa, we'll talk to you. Okay,

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Speaker 3: thanks Buchs.

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Speaker 2: All right, we can stick with some of this and

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Speaker 2: if this doesn't continue, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I just want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Where you live and where you see your future. As

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who are looking around and saying,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting out of here. Kathy Hockel, the governor of

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Speaker 2: New York, acknowledge it now. She's begging millionaires to come back.

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Speaker 2: I don't I think once they're gone, Kathy, if I

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Speaker 2: can call you, Kathy, they're gone forever. Back on nightside light,

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Speaker 2: these lines up you have the numbers, I don't need

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Speaker 2: to repeat them anymore.

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Speaker 3: Coming back right after the eleven o'clock news