1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: It's a Scott's flowing shell on seven hundred w old WD. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: You just shooting a little straight with you this morth 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: So we have all the snow on the ground. We 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: got like twelve inches of snow, not much of it 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: if all has melted yet tonight. Since lash tomorrow, we're 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: going to get to one to two to three maybe 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: more depending where you are, depends. We shall see temperatures 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: remain cold, so more snow on top of the snow. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Snow's not going anywhere, and city Cruise does a great 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: job clearing snow on the streets. There's still snow on 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: the sidewalks that kids need to walk or wait for buses, 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and so a new ordnance would have force property on 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: us to clear the snow. So what we're saying is 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: that your neighbor, your neighbor, Betty Lorrain or Margaret, whatever 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: name is, she's got to get eighty years old and 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: the city's going to force her out there at gunpoint 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: to go shovel over twelve inches of snow. Absolutely heartless, heartless, 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: it's unreal. Council Member Seth Walsh is proposing this, Seth, 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: are you going to tell me that you're going to 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: force somebody's gramma to go out and shovel sidewalks in 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: this weather. 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: No no, no, Scott, I appreciate you leave it off 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: with the drama there. 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 3: Let's take it up to what's actually going on here. 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: So the city. 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Actually already has on its books ordinances around shoveling the sidewalks, 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: and one of the problems that we've discovered last year 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: with the snow emergency is that we don't actually have 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: any enforceable mechanisms to this. And so whether you're dealing 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: with your sidewalks by your house, whether you're in a 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: business district, whether you're downtown, if you run into sidewalks 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: that are covered in snow a week after the snowstorm, 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: there's no way for you to report it. There's nobody 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: whose job it is to maintain it and check in 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: on it, and there's nobody who's there to make sure 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: that we're actually doing this job. So what this motion 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: asks is what does the administration need, much like we 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: asked last year around the snowpop what does it need 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: to be able to take the next step and actually 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: make sure we're enforcing this appropriately and helping your the 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: city going this isn't about going after you know, residential neighbors. 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: This is about making sure that we all as a 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: community are coming together and actually being able to take 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: care of our sidewalks too. 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so this this would apply then primarily to the 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: residential I'm sorry, the business district areas or places of business. 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's all it's all Cincinnati, but I anticipate 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna be primarily the business district areas. You know, 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of complaints coming in. Downtown has 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: had a number of complaints about you can tell who 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: the properties owners are to clear the sidewalks so. 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: You can tell who have it. 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: We've also seen, you know, a lot of complaints around 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati, like owning property that we haven't cleared, 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: and then questionable property where you're like, is it the city, 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: is it somebody else? 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: And who needs to be responsible for it? 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: One, for example, is the bridge going from Clifton to 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: north Side. What we need to be able to do 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: is have a system in place to be able to 61 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: get peace concerns and then make sure that we get 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: them cleared, whether that's through some city mechanism, whether that's 63 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: to hire in private contractors and whatever it is, that's 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: a pretty big important Yeah. 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I had our buddy on from ODOT last week and 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: he said that, you know, sometimes you see a road 67 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: plowed and then it'll not be plowed, and then it'll 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: be plowed again. Is like that has to do with jurisdiction, right, 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Like odubts in chart generally have highways, but then you 70 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: have the county. Then you have local municipalities cities like Cincinnati, villages, 71 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: et cetera. And sometimes between all those enterprises, we're not 72 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: quite sure who is responsible for that stretch. And normally, 73 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: if it's an intro or typically we get interured to 74 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: a snow it is not a big deal. But when 75 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: you're talking feet, different story. 76 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 77 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And what we currently do not have is a 78 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: mechanism SCOT if you want to call and tell us 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: that there's a sidewalk that need to get shoveled after 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: a week, there's no mechanisms for that. 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: And that's you know, I'll stop sort. 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: Of saying it's a problem because I don't think it's 83 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: the problem on the scale of the snow pot as you 84 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: was last year, but it is the next step in 85 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: this how do we proposely handle snow as we're looking 86 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: at you know, I'm seeing three to five inches tomorrow. 87 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big deal. 88 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: And you know, if you're if you're trying to walk 89 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: to a business and you're trying to walk to your car, 90 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: you're trying to get to you know, take your dog 91 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: for a walk, that's that is a big deal to 92 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: be kind of going through these various grades and it 93 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: becomes pretty unsafe for people. And so if we can't 94 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: even get the reporting on it, how do we how 95 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: do we take Diamex Stap actually solve this problem? 96 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so where do you extend this that stass? 97 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned real estate owners is the target, 98 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: but are we talking about absentee landlords just commercial property only? 99 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: What about like something like an apartment complex. Can you 100 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: define who isn't who's doing their job? 101 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you can define it as pretty 102 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: much a sidewalk. And this wouldn't yes anywhere that has 103 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: a sidewalk that is not being shoveled, you know, several 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: days to the week after the snowfall event. Whether that 105 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: is a private property owner, whether that's the City of Cincinnati, 106 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: whether that's oda. We need to be having these standards 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: to make sure gets taken care of. I think there's 108 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people that are rightfully frustrated that city 109 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: society hasn't shoveled our own sidewalks. 110 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: And right now we haven't even we don't even allow 111 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: you to be able to tell us that that's the problems. 112 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: So let's get that salved like, let's hold everybody to 113 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: the same standard, because again, it's a safety issue. 114 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's about people. 115 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: We're trying to have people walk more, have more pedestrian safety. 116 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: You got to have the sidewalks. You see people walking 117 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: in the streets because they can't access the sidewalks. That 118 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: becomes dangerous for everybody, from the people who are walking 119 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: to the motorists. It's just not a safe environment. 120 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I mentioned kind of tongue in cheek Seth Wall 121 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: jokingly about senior sitting. You know, eighty year old Betty, 122 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: you're next door neighbor. She's not going out and shovel. 123 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: But if you can't physically shovel, and how do you 124 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: differentiate when that in a proper dinner, who's neglecting their responsibility? 125 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: How do you verify this well? 126 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: And that's part of what we're asking in the emotion 127 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: here is what does the city administration need to be 128 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: able to run an effective program? And much like if 129 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: your sidewalk gets destroyed by tree roots and is lifting up, 130 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of inches and you have to 131 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: have it taken out, there are systems in place where 132 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: you can get it replaced by yourself or the city 133 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: brings in contractors seeing it taken care of, and then 134 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: there are ways to get creative about it to solve 135 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: it where you're not putting the burden on your eighty 136 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: five year old neighbor, but we are solving the problem 137 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: which off the sidewalks, make these passable straight you know, 138 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: save sidewalks. 139 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, in the case of the eight year old neighbor, 140 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: so who paid? Does a taxpayer pay for that? Or 141 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: do you have to build? Do you build? The property owner? 142 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's something that the adminstration needs to 143 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: come back to tell us, you know, what the costs 144 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: would be on that, you know, if if it's in 145 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: the obscene coss I'm. 146 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: Sure there's a way we can work that out. 147 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: And at the same time, you have contractors that are 148 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: out there being able to do this because we have 149 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: to take care of the safe property at the same time. 150 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: You know, we can figure that out as well. Right now, 151 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: we're at the information gathering stage. Last year we were 152 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: so worried about the roads high getting cloud. This year 153 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: we have had such a great success at the roads 154 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: getting cloud. The system worked. Now you have the next problem, 155 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: which do you want people to be able to walk 156 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: in the sidewalks aren't getting there? 157 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: How do we answer? How do we address that? Right? Right? 158 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: And I'll pivot for just a second off this outBut 159 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned the success that the crews had. I've saw 160 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: nothing but glowering reviews for the snow removal, but also 161 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: that plow tracking app as well. It was down for 162 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a while. Weren't quite sure with the mechanics. There's always 163 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: growing pains. I think we talked about this before Seth Walsh. 164 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: But but you know, from what I could tell and 165 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: looking at it during the snow event and probably on's 166 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: happening tomorrow. 167 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: Everything looks really good. 168 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys really turned the corner on the 169 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: snow removal thing, largely because of your efforts. 170 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is something that I think a 171 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: lot of people deserve credit and kudos for you know, 172 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: last year we failed as leaders in terms of making 173 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: sure that we were set up for the team to 174 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: be able to go out and succeed at it. We 175 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: had six hundred streets, we just didn't know that. 176 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: We didn't. Wow, that's not acceptable, and we said that, 177 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: and we sent the. 178 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Last year working to make sure that we have the 179 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: six hundred streets identified, that we had the systems in 180 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: place and succeed that we knew days in advance we 181 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: could prepare for and take care of it so that 182 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: when we sent our workers out there, we worked twelve 183 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: hour shifts. You know, they are they're doing the Lord's 184 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: work in this and they needed to make sure they're supported, 185 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: and we made sure they're actually supported this time. You 186 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: see how remarkable the team is once they actually have 187 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: their appropriate support from the snowplowd tracker working to being 188 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: able to see what streets were being taken care of, 189 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: to see that we had two days in advance we 190 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: were salting and preparing for the storms, and then you know, 191 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: literally getting these streets covered and taking care of. Within 192 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: like thirty six hours, we had ninety five percent of 193 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: the streets passable. 194 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: I mean It was really incredible. 195 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: But it took us being honest with ourselves, which I 196 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: think is one of the hardest things in government, to 197 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: admit that, hey, we came up short. 198 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: We have to do better, right, right, and often there 199 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: are enough people taking the hit for that, going hey, 200 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: it's on my watch, it's going to happen. He's council 201 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Member Seth Walsh proposing a new ordin Cincinnati that's going 202 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: to enforce with a little bit more teeth that you 203 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: have to remove the snow from your sidewalks. That doesn't 204 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: apply to a driveway though, right if you want to 205 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: not shovel your own driveway, it's up to you, although 206 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: I guess the sidewalk usually does cross a driveway. And 207 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you know I'm backing up on this thing too, is 208 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: how long before how long do you give someone to 209 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: shovel the snow? Is it within twenty four hours? Forty 210 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: eight a week? How long to shovel the snow that fell? 211 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 212 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: So on the first point, now, this doesn't impact driveways. 213 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: You know, the driveways your private property. The sidewalks are 214 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: of the public property. 215 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: Here. 216 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: The second part of this is, in my opinion, you know, 217 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: if we're trying to get everyone's streets cleared within forty 218 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: eight hours. After that forty eight hour mark is that 219 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: we should expect the sidewalks are getting appropriately cleared as well. 220 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: You know, we had some issues last last week where 221 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: people cleared their sidewalks and then the snowplowd came through 222 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of snowgup dumped back on the sidewalk. 223 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: That doesn't very feel very fair. 224 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: That feels a little punitive for those who are trying 225 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: to do the right thing. It's a situation where once 226 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: a snow emergency has stopped, we've gotten the streets taken 227 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: care of. 228 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: Now we have to make sure the sidewalks become passable. 229 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's a priority order to this. 230 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: So we're not saying, hey, the snowstorm is coming down, right, 231 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: I'll be out there and make sure there's not a 232 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: ounce of snow out there. We're saying, you know, we're 233 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: all a team, you know, especially now you look we're 234 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: a week out on the storm. 235 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: We need to make sure that the sidewalks are passable. 236 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Seth Walsh on that, And I've brought up the 237 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: older neighbors that may not be able to even plow 238 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: their own driveway. That may pay for the drive to 239 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: be plowed, to be a little extra, a little bit 240 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: more money on them to get the sidewalks done as 241 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: part of that. Businesses may be a little bit different 242 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: in that regard to but you know, all it would 243 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: take is someone to go, hey, they're going after this. 244 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: You know this elderly widow or widow. We're they don't 245 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: have the money, they're fixed income, they can't go out 246 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: there and shovel their own thing. And now you're going 247 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: to crack down. And that feels like it's like an 248 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: IT team thing waiting to happen. But the same thing is, okay, 249 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: my next door neighbor. Let's say, you know, it's an 250 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: individual who works two or three jobs, doesn't have time 251 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: to shovel their own driveway, let alone the snowplow or 252 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: hiring someone to do that because they're trying to keep 253 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: their head above water. In that regard, would the enforcement 254 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: be punitive as you mentioned, because you look at them 255 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: and go, oh, okay, it's an older person. They can't 256 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: afford it, they cannot do themselves. But you've got a 257 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: younger next door neighbor. Shouldn't they be out there doing 258 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: it well. If you're working all the time, it's awfully 259 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: tough to do that. How do you respond. 260 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: We have a number of ordnances that are on the 261 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: books currently that you may feel like are targeting are 262 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: more vulnerable citizens, and the way that we handle it 263 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: as a city is that we provide funds and resources 264 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: to make sure that they're being taken care of as well. 265 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: None of these are designed in a way. 266 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: In which we are trying to punish, you know, our 267 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: elderly citizens or those who will work see multiple jobs. 268 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: We're just trying to make sure the sidewalks to become passable. 269 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: And again, you know this isn't an ordinance. There already 270 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: ordinances on the books that you know have this enforcement mechanism. 271 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: There's no way to report it right now. 272 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: And I think where the majority of these issues are happening, frankly, 273 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: our city of society properties. 274 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: Yea, And I think we have to do better as 275 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: a city. That's something in a mantra keep saying out there. 276 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: But if you don't even allow you to op change 277 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: to tell us that these are problems and we can't 278 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: solve the problems. 279 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like set there should be and 280 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: again this is just the very primitive form of stage 281 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: is there's nothing even close to becoming legislation at this point. 282 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, how do we get the and it's 283 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: a safety is how do we get the snow off 284 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: the sidewalks because the reality is you've got kids trying 285 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: to go to school or walk to the bus stop, 286 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: or people waiting for metro, whatever it might be, and 287 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: now they've got to stand in the road and that's 288 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: just horribly unsafe that that's the whole point of this. 289 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 290 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: You know, I've seen way too many people in the 291 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: last weeks who couldn't pass through the sidewalks, so they're 292 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: just walking down the middle of the street. And it's 293 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: arguably safer for them because they because of the slippage 294 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,359 Speaker 2: and the ice. 295 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: That has accumulated. It's not safer because you have these 296 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: vehicles that are coming along. It's not safer for them, 297 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: it's not safer for the vehicles. And so again, as 298 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: a community, we have to step up and do better. 299 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: And so how do we do that. 300 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: Again, we're not trying to be punitive here, We're just 301 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: trying to figure out ways and we can solve problems 302 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: that have arisen, and frankly, of all the problems that 303 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: we had last year, for this to be the next 304 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: issue to tackle, I think it's a good side of 305 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: where the city's setting. 306 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the roads tackled. Now it's the sidewalks 307 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: which is challenging in different ways. I suppose seth and 308 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what comes of this whole thing. I would 309 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: also think too, that this is such an unusually heavy 310 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: snowfall winter for us. We normally don't get this much 311 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: so in a short period of time, you know, and 312 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: maybe a storm or we get four inches or something 313 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: like that, and we treat it like it's a big deal. 314 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: You know, a foot of snow and plus what we're 315 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: getting tomorrow on sidewalks, yeah, that's impassable. You know, an 316 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: inch or two you probably can walk over that. And 317 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: so is this kind of preparing for the quote unquote 318 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: hundred year flood as opposed to what we normally say. 319 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,239 Speaker 2: You know, last year, I got a lot of criticism 320 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: when I was when I was saying that we need 321 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: better on the snowplows because everyone said it was a 322 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: once in a twenty year storm, and barely twelve months later, 323 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: that once in a twenty year storm hit again. 324 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 3: Right. 325 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: You know, the reality is we do live in a 326 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: city where snowhall events happen, and we don't know when 327 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: the next big snowstorm is. We didn't think two weeks together, 328 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: we're going to have two big storms within. 329 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: A two week period. 330 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: And yet that's what we're staring down the gun on. So, yes, 331 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: this is an important issue to make sure that we 332 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: continue to just improve on. 333 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: And I hope that we don't have to experience it 334 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: for the next hundred years. 335 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: But if I've learned anything about my predictions, if you will, 336 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: we'll try to have it again in the next three weeks. 337 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: And so let's just be ready and let's start having 338 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: these conversations and figure. 339 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: Out again as a community, how do. 340 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 2: We do better and how do we work with each 341 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: other make sure we're supporting the administration for what they 342 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 2: need and the resources they need to be successful. 343 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: Well, the good news is much like diarrhea, it doesn't 344 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: hang on too much longer. 345 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: Here on. 346 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: I got a few weeks of this nonsense, Seth Walsh, 347 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: and then we'll be we'll be headed to spring. I 348 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: think with Red's baseball, Aunu Suarez now we're in a 349 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: red uniform, so we got hope down at a great 350 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: American ballpark for our red legs. But of course with 351 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: warmer temperature and all these cold and freezing and the snows, 352 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: the the you know, the warming and freezing cycle, we 353 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: got to worry about potholes. 354 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: Now, are we here? 355 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: I think this is going to focus from clearing sidewalks 356 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: to pothole damage in a few short weeks, and are 357 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: we prepared to deal with the probably immeasurable amount of 358 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: potholes Last year it was a high pothole season. This 359 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: year I would suspect the same. Are we better in 360 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six than we were in twenty twenty five 361 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: on us? 362 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: You know, potholes didn't get as much attention last year 363 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: in the media as the snowstorm did, but it did 364 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: get a lot of attention on the inside of city Hall. 365 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: House Member Nolan obviously did. 366 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: A you know, quick blitz to try to come up with 367 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: some solutions for the pothole how we can do better 368 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: at podoles, and then House I believe today is actually 369 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: going to be approving funding to buy new equipment from 370 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: Pothole Feelings, So hopefully you're going to see improvement or 371 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: remarkable improvement. Again, it's under the same new director who's 372 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: solved our Sonowpo situation. 373 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: Mark Riley. 374 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: So I feel optimistic, but let's have that conversation of 375 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: four weeks when we get to see it in action, right. 376 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: Right, and hopefully we are better than we have been 377 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: in the past when it comes to poddles. Right now, 378 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: it's snow on sidewalks. What's the timeline for this proposal? 379 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: So we were filing it today, which means we will 380 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: officially vote on it next week and hopefully we'll see 381 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: resolves quickly from there. 382 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, No, we think this is a priority 383 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: for the city. 384 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what is you're trying to do because 385 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: you can't have people, especially kids, walking in the street 386 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: because the sidewalks aren't cleared for sure. So anyway, hey, Seth, 387 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you jump and I always love having you on 388 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: the program. And thanks again, buddy, have a good. 389 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: Day, Thanks Scott. 390 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: All right, anytime there you go, Seth Walsh on The 391 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Scott's Loan Show. There may be some questions how are 392 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: you enforced this namely, but I get the concept because 393 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, when sicy and cold out people walk in 394 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: the street because at least the road is cleared, and 395 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: in the past you couldn't walk anywhere because the roads 396 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: weren't cleared. 397 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: So I guess we're making progress. 398 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Julie Hatters, here is next. 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