1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan RAYBSY, Boston's new radio. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: My great thanks to Brian short Slave and Bill from 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Cape cod for throwing a couple of questions at my guest. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: I thought those were two incredibly infullmative hours. Dean Bill 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Fitzimmons of Harvard and Dean Great Goslin of Boston College. 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: They really gave you an insight. If you took the 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: time to listen to the two hours, and if you 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: missed him, you can go to Knightside and demand. Anytime 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, Rob on the Overnight will post those hours. 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Just go to Knightside and demand it'll be part one 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: and part two. They they really did cover the waterfront. 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: I think that if you literally had a base of 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: no knowledge about the college application process, there was a 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: lot to learn. So I think again greatly, Bill fitz 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: Simmons of Harvard. We just did our nineteenth annual college 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Admissions Panel. I happen to think that's one of the 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: most important programs that we do during the course of 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: the year, that as well as our charity combine. When 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: we tend to end the year, I'm not sure if 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: we're going to do the charity combine this year. It's 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot of work. We'll have to figure that one out. 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: There's so many different topics we need to consider and cover. 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: But as they say, Bill fitz Simmons in Grant Goslin, 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: who today he's been functioning as the Dean of Admissions, 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: the equivalent of the Dean of Admissions at Boston College 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: and today formally named the Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid. 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: So it gave you a good sense of those two schools. 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: But from those schools, it gives you a sense of 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: the number of options people have, and young people have. 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get some high 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: school students. Other years we've had high school students call, 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: and sometimes their questions are the best because they're right 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: in the middle of the fray. Now tell you who 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: else is in the middle of the fray. The United 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: States Congress, the US Senate, the US House of Representatives, 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: And it was just reported on the WBC newscast. The 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: Senate now tonight has passed legislation to reopen the government. 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: That piece of legislation will have to go back to 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: the House of Representatives. There were eight Democrats who after 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: this longest government shutdown and will add a few days. 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: It's not going to be formally resolved. Assuming it is 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: for a couple of more days, at least, the House 43 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: will not come back in session until Wednesday, and then, 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: assuming that there are no changes in the piece of 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: legislation passed by the Senate tonight, it goes on to 46 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: the to the House, and the House is even more 47 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: sharply divided than the Senate in the In the Senate 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: there were eight well, there were seven Republicans, along with 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: independent Angus King of Maine, two New Hampshire Senators Jean 50 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: Shaheen and Maggie Hassen, two former governors which may have 51 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: contributed to their willingness to end this shutdown or at 52 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: least vote to end the shutdown, along with two Senators 53 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: from Nevada, Catherine Cortes Mosto and Jackie Rosen, as well 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: as Dick Durbin, who is number two or three in 55 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: the Senate. There have been some suggestions that Durbin was 56 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: going to vote off in terms of the Democrat's position. 57 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who has voted with the Republicans 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: for several of these votes, I think tonight might have 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: been However, you want to count and vote number fifteen 60 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: or sixteen, and then Tim Kine of Virginia kin who 61 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: was Hillary's running mate in twenty sixteen. They would represent 62 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: I guess what you would call the moderate faction within 63 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: the Democratic Senate with the members of the Democratic Senate. 64 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: So the questions, the question that we have, and I'm 65 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: looking for your input, is where do we go from here? 66 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Assuming that the House decides to vote to concur with 67 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: the Senate and send the bill on to the President. 68 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: There are some elements here. I listened to Senator Shaheen 69 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: today and she said that it had gone on a 70 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: long time, nothing was happening. She is quoted in an 71 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: article here from NBC News which cleared just about seventeen 72 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: minutes ago. This is the only deal on the table. 73 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: It was our best chance to reopen the government and 74 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: immediately begin negotiations to extend the ACA tax credits that 75 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: tends millions of Americans rely on to keep costs down. 76 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: So at this point, I would assume that if this 77 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: passes by Wednesday and signed by the President by Wednesday 78 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: or Thursday, that will resolve funding for several departments within 79 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: the government. I believe that this this extension will go 80 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: to will will will extend through the end of January. 81 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: I haven't seen the legislation as finally was passed tonight, 82 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: but all fifty three Senate Republicans voted against, including a 83 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: simple one year extension of the ACA funds proposed by 84 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: Senator Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin in the funding bill, and 85 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: that vote did come up in the hours up to 86 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: the final passage. Again, there will be there will be 87 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: other political pressures that will be exhorted here in all directions. 88 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: This is I think the Democrats. It's been suggested that 89 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: the Democrats caved. I don't particularly like that language, to 90 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: be really honest with you. It looks tonight as if 91 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: President Trump has been interviewed at the NFL football game 92 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: tonight or one of the football games. Maybe it was 93 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: last night. I'm not sure. I'm just trying to absorb 94 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: as much. I've been focused on college applications. Anyway, Where 95 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: do we go from here at this point and what 96 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: are the implications. It's to me it's sort of ironic 97 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: that after the Democrats had had electoral success last Tuesday 98 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: night in Virginia and in New Jersey for two governorships, 99 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: the sense was that the New Jersey governorship might have 100 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: been in play. I think that the shutdown hurt both 101 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: of the Republican candidates. Maybe they wouldn't have won those 102 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: seats either way. But there are now two Democratic governors 103 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: elected in Virginia and New Jersey, as well as obviously 104 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: the the socialist elected in New York. UH. There's there's 105 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: going to be strong debate here on the the money 106 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: that will be available for people who are relying upon 107 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: Obamacare UH and the subsidies. How generous will those subsidies be. 108 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: I think the Republicans intend to make a stand on those. 109 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: So I guess my question here is, did it really 110 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: take everything that we've seen transpire? Did it take the 111 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: the withholding of pah to UH to air traffic controllers? 112 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see why there couldn't have been 113 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: a piece of legislation passed separately by both the House 114 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: and Senate to make sure that air traffic controllers were paid. 115 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: There were a lot of the air traffic controllers who 116 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: apparently literally needed money. 117 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: UH. 118 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: And now do I think some of them called in 119 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: sick to make a statement. Sure, but I also think 120 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: that many of them had to take some other jobs. 121 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: It was reported that they were taking jobs as uber 122 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: drivers uh to to get some money. I mean, that's 123 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: not a great way to uh to to watch how 124 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: our government it's you know, it's it's trillions of dollars. 125 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: It's trillions of dollars. So I just want to open 126 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: it up and see if you feel the shutdown was 127 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: worth it, if you'd like to offer an opinion as 128 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: to whether it is of greater help to the Democrats 129 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: or the Republicans, or if it's a greater hindrance to 130 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: the Democrats or the Republicans. I think we're going to 131 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: see a real difference in the debates in the next 132 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: few weeks as all of this is joined. I think 133 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: it should it could have begun on October first. I 134 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: don't think that the shutdown wasn't necessary. The inconvenience that 135 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: people have suffered who have been traveling, and the inconvenience 136 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: of people will suffer because the airlines are going to 137 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 2: take some time to get back to their full schedules. 138 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: It'll take some time I suspect where the air traffic 139 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: controllers will be fully staffed as well. Thank goodness that 140 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 2: there was no calamity and I think that the Transportation 141 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: Department did the right thing in recent days by cutting 142 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: back flights in this country and limiting the number of 143 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: flights in this country. Look, it's one thing for people 144 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: to be inconvenienced, which was horrible. I think we made 145 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: a mistake in Massachusetts. I think that the better course 146 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: that Governor Healy should have taken would have been to 147 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: have immediately taken away all of the questions about SNAP 148 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: funding and made SNAP funding available with the money that 149 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: we have here in Massachusetts in the Rainy Day Fund. 150 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: So we've talked about it a lot. I just want 151 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: to open up the phone calls. You can take the 152 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: conversation in any direction you want. Tell me who who 153 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: you think had the better of this. This shutdown, if 154 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: you will, the longest in history six one, seven, two, five, four, 155 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 156 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: This is what I'd prefer to talk about between now 157 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: and midnight, because it will be the story of the 158 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: day tomorrow and it's breaking news literally while were on 159 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: the air. I'm in a bit of a disadvantage because 160 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: I can't watch it emerging live. But maybe some of 161 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: you would like to express an opinion on it. All 162 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: I have to do is give us a call six one, seven, two, 163 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: five four to ten thirty six one seven, nine three 164 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Whether you're here in New England with 165 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: WBZ is located, or anywhere around the country, feel free 166 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: to join the conversation back on Nightside right after this. 167 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 168 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: All right, we have ten twenty three, ten twenty three. 169 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: I believe it's a ten ten twenty four. Just turn 170 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: ten twenty four on a Monday night. Cold weather coming 171 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: around later on this evening and into tomorrow, so we're 172 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: going to get a little bit of a taste of winter. 173 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: So what I want to talk about, And again sometimes 174 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: I find that on Nightside, when we talk about something 175 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: that is actually happening, that people are not caught up 176 00:11:54,600 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: on it. You've watched the government shutdown and the implications 177 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: thereof you've seen the snap benefits are delayed, and even 178 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: even in the last ten days and the ten days 179 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: since November one, we had some rulings by federal judges 180 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. It's interesting to me 181 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: to see how confusing these rulings are and obviously the 182 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: efforts to appeal, and the Supreme Court actually was about 183 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: to get involved. I think all of that is now moot, 184 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that that has resolved. So I think that Snap beneficiaries, 185 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: people who rely upon Snap benefits can relax at this point, 186 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: assuming that this all goes according to plan. But did 187 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: we really have to go through this would be the 188 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: question that I would like to ask all of you 189 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: whether or not you're somebody who realizes upon Snap benefits 190 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: to get food and you know, look how it's difficult 191 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: for most. I know there were forty two million Americans 192 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: who rely on Snap benefits, but for those of us 193 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: who do not and who were blessed enough not to 194 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: rely upon Snap benefits, you have to have some empathy. 195 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: Now I realized that there's some concern as to is 196 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: all of those forty two million Americans legitimate or are 197 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: there people who should not be taking advantage of a 198 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: program that's well, all well and good. We can talk 199 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: about that, but was it necessary to put those forty 200 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: two million Americans? And I assume that every one of 201 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: those families was reliant on food pantries for a few days, 202 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: and in many states, people Snap benefits have automatically here 203 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts have gone on to their cards. I think 204 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: all of that political back and forth between Governor Heale 205 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: and President Trump and governors in other states some I 206 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: don't know how productive it was. Maybe it's what we 207 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: had to go through to get the situation resolved to 208 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: one extent or another. Either way it you know, it 209 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: doesn't reflect a lot of glory on any of the 210 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: politicians in Washington. They know these deadlines are coming, they 211 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: know that certain things have to be done, and yet 212 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: they continue along. The House has been away for a 213 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: few days. Speaker Johnson has decided. He decided to send 214 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: his his members home or give them the opportunity to 215 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: go home. He summoned them back now for a vote 216 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, and my suspicion is that that vote will 217 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: accomplish what it's intended to v to accomplish, that the 218 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: government will be back in business and that workers who 219 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: have been furloughed will be paid. Workers who have been terminated, 220 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: as I understand it, amongst the agreement that workers who 221 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: were terminated and fired, they will be their jobs will 222 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: come back. The whole Obama insurance premiums, that's going to 223 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: be the raging debate of the next few few weeks. 224 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: Airports will eventually come back to normal. We may not 225 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: buy tomorrow, but it'll come back within I guess a week. 226 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: Certainly it'll come back well in time for the Thanksgiving 227 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: travel rush. There will be a vote on healthcare, although 228 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: I guess. Speaker Johnson was said tonight that he is 229 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: not bound by the promises that the Senate made, but 230 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: I think it would be well. He would be well 231 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: advised to go along with the Senate. As I said, 232 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: the workers who have been fired according to this agreement 233 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: in the Senate will be rehired. President Trump is said 234 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: he will abide by this. If he's abiding by the 235 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Senate agreement, then furloled workers will be returned to their jobs. 236 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: Workers who were fired, furlough workers would be paid. Workers 237 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: who were fired will be rehired. And again the chaos 238 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: at the airport. If I had been traveling in the 239 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: last few days, I would have been probably as upset 240 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: as anyone, because this is eminently foreseeable, and it was 241 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: eminently preventable. If our politicians were were concerned about anything, 242 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: But again, so many of them seemed to be in 243 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: a in a different class and that goes across party lines, 244 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: by the way, it's Republicans and Democrats. They I would 245 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: think that there should be a law that would be 246 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: passed that any time there is a government shutdown, members 247 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: of the Senate in the House, at a minimum, they 248 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: should not be paid, simple as that. If that is 249 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: what is needed. That's the one proposal I would like 250 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: to lay on the table that going forward, if there 251 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: is a government shutdown, members of the House and Senate, 252 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: who obviously are the cause of the shutdown, will not 253 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: be paid. However long the shutdown lasts, I suspect there 254 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: will be then no shutdowns, and if they are, they'll 255 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: be very quick, very brief. That is a that is 256 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: a rule, a regulation that I would hope someone in 257 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: the Senate, someone in the House of Representatives would seriously 258 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: put put forward because I think that would be that 259 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: would be a reform that would be appreciated by a 260 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: lot of people. Okay, we're going to get to the phones. 261 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: I promise we've got the newscast six one, seven, two, five, 262 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten 263 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: thirty Jump on board. What do you expect? Who are you? 264 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: Who are you most angry? At or are you angry 265 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: at anything? Maybe you have gone along and this has 266 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: not affected you. Well, I'm angry that it's affected other people. 267 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: It's unnecessary. 268 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 269 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: These folks run for office. They're competent. Uh As they're 270 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: competent enough to form a campaign committee and get elected, 271 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: which is no small feet, they should be competent enough 272 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: to work together and resolve matters in his timely fashion. 273 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: That's my argument. I'd love to hear from you. Six one, seven, two, five, 274 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten 275 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: thirty Coming right back on night Side. 276 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 277 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: So the Senate has voted to end the shutdown, but 278 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: if there's still some obstacles to overcome. As a matter 279 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: of fact, tonight, just reading a little bit more of 280 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: this NBC news piece that I mentioned earlier. House Minority 281 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: Leader Hakim Jeffries, Democrat of New York said, House Democrats 282 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: are focused on dealing with the bill that's coming over 283 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: from the Senate to the House, and we're going to 284 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: fight hard to defeat it. So Jeffries is going to 285 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: be take a hard position and if he can hold 286 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: his entire Democratic delegation in the House, that it's a 287 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: very close vote in the House. Asked if the shutdown 288 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: was worth it, Jefferies said, Democrats waged a battle on 289 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: behalf of the American people. Do you believe that? Do 290 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: you believe that he waged a battle on behalf of 291 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: the American people? The forty two million people who were 292 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: without benefits, snap benefits, nutritional benefits. He added, the fight 293 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: lives on. Jeffries deferred to House minority whiped Catherine Clarke, 294 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: Democrat from Massachusetts, when asked if all Democrats will vote 295 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: against the bill, Well, if all Democrats vote against this 296 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: bill and there's a few Republicans and there are some 297 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: Maverick Republicans, I think Marylyn Taylor Green, that's you get 298 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: a few of those and it gets defeated in the House, 299 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: then we're back to square one. So I don't know 300 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: if the shut down, if we can say it's over, 301 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: it certainly has taken a step in the right direction. 302 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: Let me go to John up in Maine. John your 303 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: thoughts on what's going on? How are you John? 304 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm good, Dan, how are you well? 305 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: I was a little encouraged until I just read that 306 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: last last is that piece there, Dan. 307 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: I think the upside of the shutdown, yeah, was that 308 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: when the American people took a look at the fact 309 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: that the air traffic controllers, I mean, we almost lost 310 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 4: a plane or two during this thing. I mean, it's 311 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 4: it's it's the you know, it's the federal government's responsibility 312 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: to manage the FAA. And I think because people flying, 313 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: they're Republicans, they're Democrats there whatever, you know, it's I 314 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 4: think it helps, you know, for people to look and 315 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: see just what we expect of the American government, what 316 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: do they do? And I also think your comment about 317 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 4: the competence of these people in office is correct. 318 00:21:52,720 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 2: Well again, I just think that we have a country, 319 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: we have a great democratic process. Why can't we debate 320 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: these issues and and and have the you know, we 321 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: learned in school about the great debates between you know, 322 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: this senator or that senator. And we know that we 323 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: have the Ronald Reagan Tipp O'Neill model where they would 324 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: fight like cats and dogs during the day and then 325 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: at night to drink together. Now you have people in 326 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party who I think are are pretty far 327 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: out there. And then you have I missed labeled Marjorie 328 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: Taylor Green. I don't think of her often, but I 329 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: think we'll be talking about her in the next few 330 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: days because she she will do anything to grab the spotlight. 331 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: And if she can put together a cabal of five 332 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: or six Republicans who are as crazy as she is. 333 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: I mean when I say crazy, I mean politically is 334 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to go with the program, 335 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: then you have a Congress that is just totally dysfunctional. 336 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: I mean we might get to that point. Look, I'm 337 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: not a snap beneficiary, but but my heart goes out 338 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: to those who for the last I don't know, the 339 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: last month, have have dreaded the possibility that their benefits 340 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: would go away. Uh and they did go away in 341 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: many states and even here in Massachusetts they went away 342 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: for a period of time. So I don't know, you know, 343 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 344 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: I just think that, Yeah, I think that these issues, 345 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 5: uh you know, the media covered it, it got covered, 346 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: you're covering it. It's it's bringing people into the process, 347 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 5: you know, the American people. That's who's going to you know, 348 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: change these congressmen and you know and politicians. 349 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the problem is that that they the 350 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: incumbency re election rate is extraordinarily high in this country, 351 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: which is a good thing. I mean, those members of 352 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: Congress say, hey, look, you know my vote my I'm 353 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: doing such a job, a good job. I get reelected 354 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: time after time after time. And maybe there's truth to that, 355 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: but that I would like to get see some people 356 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: in there who would say, Okay, look what can we 357 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: do to make sure we take care of people who 358 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: really need help and at the same time somehow go 359 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: in and find the people who do not deserve the help, 360 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: get them off the rolls, and deal with a thirty 361 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: seven to thirty eight trillion dollar federal debt that our 362 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: kids and grandkids are going to be able to hook for. 363 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a real danger there. I mean, there's 364 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: it'd be wonderful to say, hey, anybody who wants to 365 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: sign up for freebies, no problem. We're a great country, 366 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: we have a lot of money. Just sign people up 367 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: for as many freebies as possible. Can't do that. Can't 368 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: do that. And there's going to be a debate on 369 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: Obamacare how much subsidies are there. Can we give you 370 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: the same medical care to every American? Unfortunately not? I mean, 371 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: you know, when when senators and congressmen have to find 372 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: the greatest, you know, doctor of whatever specialty they can 373 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: do that most of us can't do that, right. I mean, 374 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: it's horrible to think so, but but that's that is 375 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: a reality that we got. 376 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 4: To deal with after after seventy nine years, I'm looking 377 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: at it and thinking, you know, ultimately it does go 378 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: back to the people. It goes back to you and 379 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: me and everybody else, you know, Uh, you know we 380 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: is it hard to get these people out of office 381 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: that should be out of office? Yeah, very hard, you know, 382 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: with the incumbency and everything. But I think it's a 383 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 4: I think it's beginning to happen because people are becoming 384 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: more aware of what the government should be doing. 385 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 2: And how you just had a member of you have 386 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: two members in the House too, of the Senate, one 387 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: of them Congressman Golden I think, said last week that 388 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: and I guess he's a kind of a moderate Democrat. 389 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: I would I would hope that now that he's not 390 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: running for reelection, uh, that he can vote to end 391 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: the shutdown. Be a Democratic vote that goes over and 392 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: ends the shutdown. You know, I don't know what I 393 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: don't know what he's going to do. Since he's not 394 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: running for reelection, he can do it, he thinks is 395 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: absolutely right, without any considerations of his political future. 396 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 4: I thought what King did was also the independent up here. 397 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he showed his independence. He caucuses with the Democrats. 398 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: He's at his heart heart and soul is a Democrat. 399 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: But he he did the he did the right thing. 400 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: So hats off to I mentioned all of their names earlier, uh, 401 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: and I'll be happy to do it again. Both New 402 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: Hampshire senators who are Democrats. Uh, both former governors by 403 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: the way, Shaheen and Hassan. They were amongst the eight 404 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: along with So there were three of the members here 405 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: from New England, and then you had two from from Nevada, 406 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: Catherine Cortes Masto and Jackie Rosen Durban from Illinois, Fetterman 407 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: from Pennsylvania, Tim Kane from Virginia. So those those are 408 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: the eighth that got this thing back, at least for now, 409 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: back operating. We'll see what happens later this week. 410 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: John, thank you so much, thank you, damn thanks appreciate. 411 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: You getting us going here, my friend. Thank you, have 412 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: a great night. All right. John is a really good caller. 413 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: And I think he raises issues that we need you 414 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: need to think about. I know the Patriots are important 415 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: everybody right now. I know that the Celtics are gonna 416 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: have a challenging year. I know that the Bruins, who 417 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: are the Red Sox is going to get a picture. 418 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: I know all of that stuff is important people, and 419 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: it is important. I don't mean to diminish it, but 420 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: this is important to six one, seven, two, five, ten 421 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. Be 422 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: right back on Nightside. 423 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: Right after this, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on 424 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 425 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: Let's go out to the Great Northwest. Laurie is in Idaho. Laurie, welcome, 426 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: thanks for checking in tonight. What's your thought about these 427 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: recent developments. 428 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 6: Well, first and foremost, Schumer needs to go, and he 429 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: can take Clark with him with him. I just I mean, 430 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 6: he is, he is vile and his the victriol he 431 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 6: spews is ridiculous. 432 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: And I have I haven't heard him tonight. Was there 433 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: something that he had said specifically tonight that you want 434 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: to respond to? 435 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: No, no, all through this thing. Yeah, all through this thing? 436 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 6: And he just and he I don't know. I always think 437 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 6: he feels like the younger legislators in there, who could 438 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 6: you know, maybe learning and act like professionals, feel like 439 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 6: they can get away with not doing so because he's 440 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 6: like the mass on whatever he needs to go. So 441 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 6: this the whole thing is, I think an embarrassment. I 442 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 6: think both sides have fault, but definitely more more the 443 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 6: little Democrats or like. 444 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure that that Schumer is looking at it. 445 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: I think that AOC is going to take a shot 446 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: at Schumer, and I think that Schumer has seen what 447 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: has happened in New York when AOC ran before, he's 448 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: seen what has seen what has happened. He actually endorsed 449 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: I believe that he was the no. I guess he didn't. 450 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm confused. 451 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 6: I don't think he had a good conversation with him 452 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 6: at one point after the election, but I don't think 453 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 6: he endorsed him. 454 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and it was Madami was endorsed. 455 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 7: I don't know that he was endorsed either by by 456 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 7: the House Speaker. I think that the House Speaker had 457 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 7: a I got someone will be able to tell me. 458 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 7: I got confused a little bit in terms of. 459 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: I I would not bet a lot of money as 460 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: to what he did. But I don't think he's going 461 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: to run for reelection. I think that that I would hope, 462 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: not that AOC sees it as this is her opportunity. 463 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 6: She's going to be any better, but she's gonna she 464 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 6: certainly won't have the longevity, let's put it that way. 465 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know. But the question shoot myself 466 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: Pelosi last week step aside, So I'm sure he's well. 467 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's time, I mean, get some fresh blood 468 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 6: in there. But so something came up in one of 469 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: the news reports today. So I mean all this stuff, 470 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are collecting their paychecks for not 471 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 6: only are they you know, they're not even trying up 472 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 6: at work, Beau, nobody will do anything. And then they're 473 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: telling all the people in the nations, oh, I'm sorry 474 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 6: you can't get paid, or I'm sorry you can't get 475 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 6: your food assistance. And then so today they had some 476 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 6: reports that people who had come to Boston, you know, 477 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: was coming up by Boston all the celebration of the 478 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 6: birth of the nation. And they interviewed a couple who 479 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 6: had come to do the Freedom Trail and to do 480 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 6: some of the great things that you can do in Boston. 481 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 6: They're part of the history of our nation, and they're 482 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: not open because the federal government is closed. So now 483 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 6: if they can get a plane back home, they haven't 484 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: been able to do what they want. And so that's 485 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 6: disgusting to me, because you know, the legislators can't get 486 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 6: along in a sandbox. I mean, there's just no excuse for. 487 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: This, I think, as well said by the way, I 488 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: did check it out here. Schubern did not endorse Mamdani. 489 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 6: No, he didn't. Once he was elected. I think he 490 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 6: called him and you know, congratulated him or some darn thing, 491 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 6: but he did not endure. 492 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe that Jeffries did offer some sort 493 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: of an endorsement. I think that was the discussion between 494 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: between the two. But LORI thank you so much for 495 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: checking us in and you are a voice of reason, 496 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: there's no question. But I love you listening to the show, 497 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: and and I love you calling in because you said 498 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: it very well. And I suspect that more people out 499 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: there feel as you do right now. I hear the 500 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: frustration in your voice and it's well, I think it's 501 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: it's yeah, No, absolutely, Thanks Laurie. 502 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 6: We'll talk, okay, thank you, Thank you. 503 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: Let me go next to Ron and Newton. Ron, appreciate 504 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: your calling in your thoughts on what you've seen expire, 505 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: uh in the last day or so, and what you've 506 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: seen expire in the last month or. 507 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: So, I Dan, I am. It's so they are so 508 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: disgraceful to represent us, and it really has for a 509 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: long time. It greates me that they are not held 510 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: their deadlines. You know, I work in one of the 511 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: most highly regulated professions in the country, and in terms 512 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: of having to accomplish, I can't maintain my license without 513 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: having X number of continuing education. 514 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: Credits. 515 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: Sure I'm held to. When I was at Masternal Hospital, 516 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: I was held to. They have different levels of payment, 517 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: so it's it's a merrittroker. That's system where you meet 518 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: certain standards and then you can then you can advance 519 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: in your pay. One of my brother's works at IBM, 520 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: and if he didn't meet the deadline, his pay stopped 521 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: right there. I don't know if you have it in 522 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: a law profession, but are there educational requirements that you 523 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: have to have to maintain you or no lawyers are 524 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: exempt for that? 525 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's good to take continuing legal credits, obviously, 526 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: and a lot of lawyers do that, but there's no 527 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: there's no obligation. There are obligations in other professions. And 528 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: I think we have a lot of lawyers in Congress 529 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: in built the House and the Senate, and they loved 530 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: to work to deadlines, and lawyers are sort of like that. 531 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: They will they will wait, and I I'm different. I 532 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: like to try to get things settled when you can. Yeah, 533 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean it just it's if you live a better 534 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: life that that style, with that lifestyle, in my opinion. 535 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: But if we keep re electing people to Congress at 536 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: a rate of ninety six or ninety seven or ninety 537 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: eight percent, same way with the Senate, very rarely is 538 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: a centate. Does a senator lose his seat in an election. 539 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: You know, there have been some. Scott Brown lost here 540 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, but he was elected in a January election, 541 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: and the Democrats did whatever they could here in Massachusetts 542 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: to take him out, not because he was an incumbent, 543 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: but because he's because he was a Republican. And there 544 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: in the same works ways in other states. But there 545 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: are very few senators who are turned out of office. 546 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: They might retire, but to be to be unseated doesn't 547 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 2: happen off, doesn't happen off. 548 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: I honestly don't care if they turned out an office 549 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: or not. But when they are there, they need to 550 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: be held accountable in a financial manner. Well, I mean 551 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: many of people at Harvard. 552 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 8: Business School or Slowe School, people in. 553 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: Organization will behavior. It could change. We used to call 554 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: it management control. You know, in different systems you're held 555 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: accountable for different payment systems. And you know, I just 556 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 3: started this program at Harvard Medical School and already we 557 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: haven't even had the orientation and they have They have 558 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: presented six assignments for the next. 559 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's what it's like in the real world. 560 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: Congress is not the real world. Rod. I want to 561 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: try to get one more in. Thank you so much 562 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: for calling it. I so appreciate you taking the time 563 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: tonight and you and the points you made are just 564 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: excellent points and I hope people respond to them in 565 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: the next hour. Thank you, my friend. 566 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: Okay, dank you. 567 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: Thank you. Let me go to Frankie in your bed 568 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: for Frankie. I want to get you in here so 569 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: you want have to wait for the eleven o'clock news. 570 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: You gotta get that. You get that radio turned down, 571 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 2: and we'll be we'll be a lot better off. 572 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Frank So, I just wanted to say that, 573 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 8: first of all, I love your show. One of those. 574 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 8: I'm one of the silent listeners. I don't like to 575 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 8: call too much, like to listen. 576 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: Is your first Is this your first time calling? 577 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 8: I called before. I usually go and uh wait till 578 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 8: you get on Facebook and I just say hell, okay, 579 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 8: and I you know I can make it quick. I 580 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 8: don't like to be too much as yours. But I 581 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 8: think my thought is this shutdown little end of eight earlier, 582 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 8: if also the Senator and the Republicans you don't get 583 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 8: paid at all, just like just like the like the 584 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 8: uh the Arctic controlers and just turn get paid. But 585 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 8: if they weren't getting paid ended a long time. 586 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,479 Speaker 2: I agree with you, no, I I and I think 587 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: that should be that should be a piece of of 588 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: reform that should immediately now be approved by Congress that 589 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: when a shutdown occurs, nobody gets paid. Nobody gets paid. 590 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: And obviously you can't Congress can't pass a law to 591 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: stop judges from being paid or the President from being paid. 592 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: But they certainly could pass a law which would say 593 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: they all of them, all of them would would would 594 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: have to forego their paychecks until the shutdown was taken off, 595 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: and then they would get their back pay. 596 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 8: That's just my son and I I think you know again, 597 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 8: I appreciate you show for so many years. I love 598 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 8: listening to you when I've worked, going to the last hours. Well, 599 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 8: thank you for your showing. I appreciate it. 600 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: Frankie, I appreciate you taking the time to call. Thank 601 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: you Paul more often. Okay, thanks, thanks again. Okay, So 602 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: I want you to react to the suggestion that Frankie 603 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: made that I've made as well. No uh, no session 604 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 2: in Congress, no pay simple as that you shut down 605 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: the government. It doesn't matter whether it's been shut down 606 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: by the Democrats and Republicans anyone in Congress. No paycheck 607 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: until the government reopens. I think that would discover shutdowns 608 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, 609 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I'd like to continue to 610 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: talk about this. However, you were impacted by the shutdown, 611 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: whether you're an air traveler or you're someone who's a 612 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: SNAP beneficiary, SNAP recipient join the conversation. We got an 613 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 2: hour to go to midnight, stay with us, and join 614 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: the conversation.