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Speaker 2: Two minutes, two seconds past the hour, three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. We didn't

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Speaker 1: even hold up a sign. No sign necessary, no hype person,

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Speaker 1: bumper to bumpers the name of the program on an

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Speaker 1: absolute brisk. I think you'd say, Tuesday afternoon here in

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Speaker 1: the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul are on location. Location,

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Speaker 1: as most of you know by now, is the impossible

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Speaker 1: to leave without buying something Shields in Eden Prairie Mall.

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Speaker 2: I swore to myself.

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Speaker 1: I deliberately got here later than I usually do, smart,

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Speaker 1: saying I'm not gonna give myself a chance. Smart, but

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Speaker 1: just walk just like three minutes, walking by several areas,

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Speaker 1: and I go, I'm not gonna leave here without getting something.

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Speaker 1: I know it's impossible. It's the most dangerous store, I think,

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Speaker 1: for me, for you, for a lot of people, no question.

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Speaker 1: I walked around for about forty five minutes and did

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Speaker 1: But I think I've got seven things that I want.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. At least it's impossible, things for my kids,

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Speaker 1: mostly things for me. Guargie is back. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Barrero. I'm the occasional host of the program. Bumper

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Speaker 1: to Bumper is the name of the show. We will

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Speaker 1: be here till six thirty, that's the plan. Three until

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Speaker 1: six thirty, maybe six fifteen. There's a wild game. Oh,

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Speaker 1: forgot about that, so we'll work that through Toys for tots.

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Speaker 1: The reason we're here. Help us out as often and

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Speaker 1: as early as you can. In fact, do you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about some enticements early? Yeah, Well, like every show,

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Speaker 1: the first fifty donations during each show, so basically, starting

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Speaker 1: right now, the first fifty donations each will secure your

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Speaker 1: very own kfan and unreal beanie hat. Is that the

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Speaker 1: hat right front row here that looks like a hat?

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Speaker 2: Is that the new hat?

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Speaker 1: Nice, Viking's horn in there. We don't even see the hats, like,

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Speaker 1: that's how exclusive they are. That's really nice, very nice.

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Speaker 1: Is there any any any Bears Chicago Bears gear available,

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Speaker 1: Not that we're giving away. You can buy it at Shields. Well,

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Speaker 1: I look, they're they're they're either extremely popular right now,

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Speaker 1: they had more packers stuff, they had more Seattle Seahawks stuff.

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Speaker 1: Come on, is not right, it's the monster's the midway.

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Speaker 1: Maybe though off the head, off your head, coach. They

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Speaker 1: realize people don't have shirts because Ben Johnson's going tarps off? Now,

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Speaker 1: So why why buy a bear shirt? You're just gonna

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Speaker 1: what's that expression, tarps off? You take the tarp off? Oh,

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Speaker 1: probably old now, which means it's not cool that I

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Speaker 1: It's the Christmas elf. It's unbelievable. Thanks you got me

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Speaker 1: me got an actual food food one for me, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Is there a black coffee? Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: do the black cop I want this one.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it. I don't know. Let's see this one

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Speaker 2: says Latte thing. Yeah, this is the light.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that says okay, perfect, This says like Morena expected.

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Speaker 2: I thought, Wow, I'm just gonna get a coffee that's

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Speaker 1: Now I won't doze off between now and six thirty

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Speaker 1: I do remember getting one a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Stuff's awesome. We're both wearing one of their new elevation hoodies. Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: there's bitterness apparently because I there are other people on

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Speaker 1: Dan Berrero, it's side Peece gets a nice hoodie, it's

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Speaker 1: what do you have to bring? Just a toy, any toy,

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Speaker 1: I know somebody dropped off one thousand dollars during the

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Speaker 1: not going to be a shock to anybody who listens

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Speaker 1: to the show much. But originally our Viking on location

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be Josh Mattelis, who had been with

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Speaker 1: I predicted yesterday that there's a good chance that Mattelis

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Speaker 1: Bumper curse, yes, involving no fewer than five former Viking

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Speaker 2: No, because he is going to show up. He is.

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Speaker 1: He's I think it's fair to say, in a season

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Speaker 1: that has not gone the way it was choreographed, one

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Speaker 1: regarding this team and perhaps even its future, a nice find. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: That correct.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was in town all weekend Thanksgiving weekend. Okay,

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Speaker 2: He did used to do that in Minnesotan.

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Speaker 1: He regularly whenever you did a couple of thea's at

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Speaker 1: the Mall of Hysteria.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely he showed up.

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Speaker 1: He never went to Fleet Farm in Lakeville, that's where

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Speaker 1: been here at Shields if he was in town, no

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Speaker 1: retweeted a meme that many of you may have seen

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Speaker 1: NFL memes, and I don't know who's responsible for this,

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Speaker 1: but here's what they wrote with some accompanying an accompanying

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Speaker 1: video montage. We might not all be Vikings fans, but

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Speaker 2: Oh no, so it's a step.

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Speaker 1: It goes backwards from the ill fated underhand pick six

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Speaker 1: by your guy Max Brosmer. It starts there, and then

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Speaker 1: the montage includes a series of infamous moments in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: there is wide left playoff game Huntington Banks Stadium before

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Speaker 2: We're not going to finish this. And it was a

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Speaker 1: going all the way back to the Cardinals have knocked

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Speaker 1: it's exactly it. That was back in the day when

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Speaker 1: so coming up on forty years, which is a long time.

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Speaker 2: And I got to tell you something, deep down, as much.

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Speaker 1: As Vikings fans go all you know, poor, poor, pitiful

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Speaker 1: me and us, I'm beginning to wonder if that's deep

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Speaker 1: They're very comfortable in their angst and wouldn't know what

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Speaker 1: the weather and everything else. Personally, I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: the rainbow or the bridge. You're the perfect test case

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Speaker 1: because you did this as a Cubs fan. Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: the World Series? After there could have been a list

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Speaker 1: of Cub stuff, right, Bartman and the Billy Goats and

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Speaker 1: the collapse of whatever year that was. Yes, how did

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what I've been waiting for my whole life.

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Speaker 1: You know, like, at the moment the Cubs win it,

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Speaker 3: there for transferred played all five years total, UH three

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Speaker 3: at Sagoo and then UH two had texted and m

434
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Speaker 3: Commerce and uh man changed my life.

435
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Speaker 2: So how did it change it?

436
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 3: Just first three years at sagu man just spiritually so much,

437
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 3: and then at Commerce just wanting to get more exposure.

438
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: I thought that was the biggest school, you know, and

439
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: it's not so just working my butt off to get

440
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 3: that exposure. It helped, no doubt.

441
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Speaker 1: Did you as you are improving as a college football player,

442
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 1: so are you allowing yourself.

443
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: To think about a professional career? Do you? Did you

444
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: go down that road a lot?

445
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

446
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah.

447
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 3: That was always a dream of mind that well, ever

448
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 3: since I was a little boy, ever since I started

449
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: playing football.

450
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: You know when did you start? I was four four

451
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: years old? It was four yep, so tackle football at four.

452
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 3: Yep, seriously tackle and then we moved on to uh select,

453
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Speaker 3: So that's okay.

454
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Speaker 2: And that was in Texas as well, correct RCT?

455
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, whereabouts in Texas, central Texas, close to Austin, Okay, Yeah.

456
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Speaker 2: And that was the only sport for you? Or did

457
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Speaker 2: you play baseball? Baseball?

458
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Speaker 3: I actually went to Sagoo on a baseball scholarship, on

459
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 3: a baseball visit, and then the coach saw me Duncan

460
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: and my cowboy boots, and it was a hey, let's

461
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Speaker 3: talk to you quick, so talk to them. And then

462
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Speaker 3: I got a dual, dual sports scholarship for both baseball

463
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Speaker 3: and football.

464
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Speaker 2: And would you say one was your first? Football? Always

465
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Speaker 2: been your love? Or was baseball? Man?

466
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Speaker 3: I wanted to go to the league for baseball as well.

467
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Speaker 3: You did, Yeah, but then I and what what did

468
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Speaker 3: you play?

469
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Speaker 1: Were you?

470
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Speaker 3: Position player? My whole life and that picture? Yeah? Yeah,

471
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: but man, I started eating too good a way.

472
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: So that at some point you start thinking about the

473
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Speaker 1: possibility of a of a of a pro football career.

474
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: When when does that go through your mind in a

475
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: serious way? Yeah, in a serious way. I've been practicing

476
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: my signature for since third grade, you know, I was like, Mom,

477
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be worth something one day, you know.

478
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: So ever since I can remember, I've always loved this,

479
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: this profession. Now that I'm in it, it's oh my goodness.

480
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: Was it always defensive line? No?

481
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: I played old line in high school? High school? I

482
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Speaker 3: played old line. That's it interesting? And how did you

483
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 3: like that? Did you like I embraced it?

484
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: You did?

485
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 3: I embraced it. I've always been a defensive player. Go

486
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: hit some seatball, get bright, but you know, just being

487
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: a team player, embracing that and you know, protecting our quarterback.

488
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: I got actually got All State for right tackle, offensive tackle.

489
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: So who made the decision to move you to defense

490
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: in your second college stop? Then?

491
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Speaker 2: That was my first first college stop playing playing d N.

492
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: But who does that?

493
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Speaker 1: Does a coach that, hey, will you belong on defense?

494
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: Or is that you pushing it? I was like, thank

495
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: you lord?

496
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Speaker 2: You like that? Yes? Completely? Yep? And what's I mean

497
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Speaker 2: the in terms of playing where you play?

498
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Speaker 5: Now?

499
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Speaker 1: What are the challenges and what do you think you've

500
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Speaker 1: done well? I mean, because you've obviously gotten a lot

501
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Speaker 1: of people's attention.

502
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Speaker 3: Right yeah, this year, man, I would say, just growing,

503
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: growing daily, Uh, just being a sponge in the building, listening,

504
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: taking coaching, and applying it on the field. Uh, first

505
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Speaker 3: in practice, then you know daily in the practice meetings

506
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Speaker 3: walked through and then going out there and executing it.

507
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Speaker 1: You know.

508
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 3: So just being a coachable person, coachable coachable player, and uh,

509
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: just applying what I'm being taught is major. But getting

510
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: here is it's very mental. You know. We don't draw

511
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: stuff up on the whiteboard often, we just we know

512
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: formations in our head, the talk about them, and then

513
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 3: you just have to visualize them to do them.

514
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Speaker 2: It's hard. It's difficult, especially my first year.

515
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: What is going on, Yeah, no doubt, but learning ball

516
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: and just getting engulfed in it.

517
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Speaker 2: Were you at the combine?

518
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Speaker 1: No, no, sir, no, not invited. Okay, so is that

519
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: another thing you file away and say, fine, okay.

520
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I hear people saying that it was tough.

521
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Speaker 3: It was, you know, the one of the hardest weekends,

522
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: right like a cool you know that that's good for you.

523
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Speaker 1: So where in your position? Where do you go to

524
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Speaker 1: get noticed by scouts? The vikings?

525
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Speaker 6: Man?

526
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Speaker 3: I have to have a great agent. Everett Levy. He did,

527
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 3: he did his thing. He didn't very well but I

528
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: went to a.

529
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Speaker 2: Tropical Bowl, that's what.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, the tropical Where the hell is

531
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Speaker 1: the tropical tropical?

532
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in Florida. It was beautiful too, It's gorgeous, but.

533
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: Not too many, not too any coaches out there, but

534
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: that that definitely gave me exposure. I went to two

535
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: bowl games and same things, okay, just similar playing. You

536
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: know talent from Alabama, Clemson, Tennessee, you know, Iowa, Illinois,

537
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: some big schools, right, and I dominated there. I had

538
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: like three sacks and tackles. Yeah, and that that's what

539
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: put my name on the map.

540
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Speaker 1: So when you see that, you could hold not on

541
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Speaker 1: hold your own, but but play maybe even better to

542
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Speaker 1: some of some of those players. Is that the point

543
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: where you go, I can do this or did you

544
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: always feel that?

545
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: In my mind?

546
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Speaker 3: I knew I was gonna play. I didn't know what

547
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Speaker 3: day or who what team you win, but I knew

548
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: I was gonna play.

549
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: And you have what do you what are you happiest

550
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: with this?

551
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Speaker 1: Individually We're gonna get to the team in a minute,

552
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: but individually, in terms of your growth, where do you

553
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: think you have improved the most to the point where

554
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Speaker 1: you're getting people's attention.

555
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: Right, Just techniques and fundamentals, you know, just learning daily,

556
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Speaker 3: applying them on the field, off the field, just trying

557
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: to be the complete pro that I can be.

558
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and are you a guy you know, obviously the

559
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: most complete lineman.

560
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: Want to be very good at both. They want to

561
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Speaker 2: be very good at handling the run.

562
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Speaker 1: They want to be able to be good at occasionally,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, causing wreaking some havoc when the quarterback's going

564
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Speaker 1: back to.

565
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Past, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, And I'm trying to

566
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: be great at both of those. So just stacking days, man,

567
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: waking up early, figuring out my routine, conquering my routine daily,

568
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: being that pillow, being that warm, blank and every.

569
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Speaker 2: Day is It's tough, but I love it. I love it.

570
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: Best job in the world. What do you every day?

571
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: Do you can you learn from more veteran players.

572
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: On this team, of course, of course, Man, I asked

573
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: them questions about their routine, their habits, their eating habits, everything,

574
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: how much they spend on their body.

575
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: Can't do that yet, but my goodness, it's insane. Yeah, yeah,

576
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: you're not quite there yet.

577
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: How much they they were into their body, how much is.

578
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: It's an investment, no doubt. You're a sponge on picking

579
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: up whatever you can pick up.

580
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: SpongeBob square pants, baby, yeah that is me. So on

581
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: I mentioned the team.

582
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys are not in the position you wanted

583
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: to be at twelve games in So how.

584
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 5: Do you.

585
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: Know, how do you finesse that?

586
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you're obviously paid to work, your continue to

587
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: go forward, you got to keep playing. But how difficult

588
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: has that been within the locker room?

589
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

590
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: I don't think there's finessing any of that, you know,

591
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Like like I said earlier, we go to work every

592
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: single day in the classroom, on the field. Whatever we're doing,

593
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: we're doing it with with our all, you know, So

594
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: there's no finessing hard work. And that's you know, one

595
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: thing we pride ourselves on. We work hard in the building,

596
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: in the classroom, so doing that daily to see the produce.

597
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: So the locker room, the locker rooms holding tight right now,

598
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: we are being together stronger than ever. So I just

599
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: got to keep doing that. Find for one another.

600
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Speaker 1: I thought, you guys again, I know the result wasn't

601
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: what you were looking for, but I thought defensively recently

602
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: as this last game, you guys played well, I don't

603
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: they really did not get all that much going offensively.

604
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: This is of course Seattle with you know, your ex

605
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: quarterback Maam Darnold has been very good this year. But

606
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: it looked to me like you guys had them a

607
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: little bit flustered.

608
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

609
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're on our techniques and fundamentals

610
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: all all week and you know, just working those daily

611
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: so that we can produce on the field.

612
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: And you know, it showed.

613
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: It showed on the field, and you know, it was

614
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: so much fun playing playing with our dogs.

615
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

616
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: The block field goal game was that it Dray can correct.

617
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: So tell me about I know you talked about it

618
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot, but now we have you here, tell me

619
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Speaker 1: about that. That's got to be an extremely satisfying play. Oh.

620
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: It hurt a little bit, hurt on the floor, hurt.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but man, uh, you know, just like I said,

622
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: doing the techniques and fundamentals and you know where in

623
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: there once a week for the for the field goal

624
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: field goal block team. Yeah, and uh, just like focusing

625
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: on that and just a one place series can change

626
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: the game, change the momentum of a game, and just

627
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: giving your all on that phase so.

628
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't know how well you know

629
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: Vikings history if you go back far enough to the

630
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, the the hallowed Bud Grant days. One of

631
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: the strengths of the I mean they were I I

632
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: grew up in Chicago, so I grew up a Bears fan,

633
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: and I I'm sorry, but I tell the story as

634
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: a compliment to the Vikings is that there were I

635
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: felt like there were so many games where throughout the

636
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: game the Bears would dominate and then with like four

637
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: minutes to goo, Matt Blair would block a punt or

638
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: a field goal and it would change the whole damn game.

639
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: So that's part of the tradition of this team going

640
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: way way back and and and those plays are they

641
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: happened so rarely, but that's why I think they stand up.

642
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so much fun, especially once you yeah, yeah, yeah,

643
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: it gets everybody fun.

644
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: What is the art of Is it about timing a job?

645
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: Takea We know the we know the procedure time that

646
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: the offenses use, and we know the fight pattern, their angle,

647
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 3: how long it takes to yeah, get the ball off

648
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: the foot, and then we just have to execute. So

649
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's either four of us on one side

650
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: doing one job and then or two of us. So

651
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: that time was was two of us hip to hip

652
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: and you know, taking five steps getting their hands up.

653
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Speaker 3: So and we did just that and we heard that

654
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Speaker 3: that was good.

655
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Speaker 2: That's very good. Yeah.

656
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Speaker 1: Are you how many cold weather games have you over

657
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: the course of your career, because you know, again, historically

658
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings kind of pride of themselves on outdoor football.

659
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: That's all changed now with the building they're in now.

660
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Uh you would you do you think you would thrive

661
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: if the Vikings were outdoors for home games all the time?

662
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: Would you thrive in that? Or you say no? I

663
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: kind of like right now, I'm in Texas boys, look cool.

664
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: I was wondering, Man, I would.

665
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: Embrace that's football, you know, that's that's the history of football.

666
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: And uh man, that's that's hard nos right there. So

667
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: I love that stuff. I haven't played in a real

668
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: cold game yet, negative temperatures or snow of right, man.

669
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Speaker 2: I want to do that though. That's that's gonna be fun.

670
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll probably help happen eventually, for sure, no question

671
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: about that. A late game in the over the years,

672
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: maybe in Chicago New York.

673
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I don't know.

674
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: We'll see what that looks. That could be it too,

675
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: for sure. Sure, Audio, Well.

676
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: I know you're here.

677
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: You're going to be involved with a kind of a

678
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: shopping spree right with a kid.

679
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: You're gonna be set up at the game. I can't wait.

680
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: Hopefully I can get something to Oh, I'm sure. Yeah,

681
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: it's I was telling justin uh that earlier.

682
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: This is a store that's kind of it's almost impossible

683
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: to walk around this store and not leave with something.

684
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: I go straight upstairs to the to that hunting. Oh

685
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: is that right? You a big hunter? Yeah? What did

686
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: you What kind of hunting? Did you grow up doing?

687
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: All of it? Yeah? Deer hunting, hogs, you know, a

688
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: whole bit. Yeah. Tell me a little about your family background.

689
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I grew up with a brother, sister or

690
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: just a sister, my goodness, sorry, mom, dad, and then

691
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of cousins. I grew up in a

692
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: nine hundred square foot home. You know, my pops has

693
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: always said that we're sports poor, and what that looks

694
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: like is, man, we just spent so much on sports

695
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: that we don't have a lot for you know, nicest house,

696
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: nicest car, gloves or bats or cleats, things like that.

697
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: But man, we were always pouring into sports. So yeah,

698
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm just grateful for that. That's just my family. There's

699
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of love in that house. That's great. Yeah,

700
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade it, went and trade my story or

701
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: for someone else's any day.

702
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Any other athletes in the family.

703
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, my sister, we actually played college at the same school,

704
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: different eras, but the same school.

705
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does she play? She played basketball, basketball.

706
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: And she was going to be a dual sport too

707
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: with volleyball, but yeah, she played basketball for all five years.

708
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Speaker 1: Outstanding. Well, congratulations on emerging. You know one of the

709
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: I think emerging stories for this team. And I guess

710
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: proof again when we all get hung up all these

711
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: shows we do. You get hung up on high draft

712
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: picks and highly toutored names. You know, big names, but

713
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: we see it over and over again, especially I think

714
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: in football, where you have free agent players, you have

715
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: lower draft pick players who maybe takes them.

716
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: A little bit of time. We're hungry though, Yeah, that's true.

717
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: We are hungry. We want it, we want to go

718
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: get it.

719
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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, thanks again for coming to see it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

721
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Levi, Drake Rodriguez, thank you for the time man,

722
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Speaker 1: much appreciate it. We'll take a quick pause here and

723
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Speaker 1: then don't forget. Kevin Sieffer's going to join us from

724
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Speaker 1: our location eaton Prarie Shiels at about probably about four

725
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Speaker 1: o'clock or so. Louis lu Nanni will join by telephone

726
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Speaker 1: Tuesday Regular. We'll get to a couple of other stories.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, Leevi, I appreciate you. Back in just a

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Speaker 1: minute here in the fan.

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Speaker 5: Can you recount.

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Speaker 2: Well, not really all.

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Speaker 1: That different than Levi Drake Rodriguez, our next guest, really

738
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Speaker 1: not highly touted at all coming out of college, should

739
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: not get drafted, kind of a free agent, kind of

740
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: a guy who said, fine, doubt me. If you'd like,

741
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: I'll show you and look where he ends up. Kevin

742
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Seaffert ESPN. There's been like twenty five ESPN purges and

743
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Speaker 1: you've survived all of them thus far.

744
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Speaker 6: Thanks for the for putting me in the curse of

745
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Speaker 6: Dan cursive bumper to.

746
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Speaker 1: But you've been on long enough now that I think

747
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Speaker 1: you're you're you're curse proof. Don't you think I would

748
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: think if it was going to happen, it happened sooner. Yeah, well,

749
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Speaker 1: good to have you.

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Speaker 6: If you done any shields s yet not yet, just

751
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 6: walked in the door. There's plenty of options. Though hopefully

752
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 6: people are getting ahead on their holiday shopping.

753
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Is it possible that we're going to look back on

754
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season and say that ultimately, one

755
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: of the biggest stories to emerge the last month of

756
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: the season is the marriage between Aaron Rodgers and Adam Thielen.

757
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: Your thoughts could have happened here? That was my first thought.

758
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: It could have happened here.

759
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers wanted to come here, we all know that,

760
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 6: and Adam Thielen wanted to come here, and he did

761
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 6: so one of the two came.

762
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 5: Now they will reunite in Pittsburgh.

763
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Speaker 6: It will that'll be a fun one to see you know,

764
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 6: I think that the any offense that Aaron Rodgers in

765
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 6: is just kind of the offense he wants it to be.

766
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 6: So as long as Adam can can get up to

767
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 6: speed on what Aaron wants.

768
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: Which might be in his wheelhouse because it tends to

769
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: be shorter passes, right.

770
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Speaker 6: Yeah there. I mean, the Steelers been running this quick game, yes,

771
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 6: all year. They did that, you know, to an extreme

772
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: in the game again the Vikings, I think he set

773
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Speaker 6: a personal record for the fewest amount of the lowest

774
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 6: amount of time before his average throw, So they were

775
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 6: very much throwing right away, and that that caters to

776
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 6: what Adams does best at this point, and so that

777
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: that could be a fun matchup. But you know, it's

778
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 6: hard not to think of all the people that the

779
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 6: Jets tried to surround Aaron Rodgers with when he was

780
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: there to no avail. But Pittsburgh I think has a

781
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 6: little bit of a better internal culture.

782
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: So we haven't I don't think talked about on this show.

783
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: A Rodge has apparently been calling out after the most

784
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: recent setback his receivers they're not working hard enough in

785
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: the film room, et cetera.

786
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 5: Is that correct?

787
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounded like he was saying that when they

788
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 6: when they watch a play and they decide what his

789
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 6: hand signals are going to be, they need to remember them.

790
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: And so that that's been a theme for a lot

791
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 6: of Aaron Rodgers' career going back to Green Bay. I

792
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 6: know my current colleague Kaylen Kaylor did a story when

793
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 6: she worked at the Athletic talking to a lot of

794
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 6: the receivers who had been through Green Bay who were

795
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 6: flummixed by this intricate signal system that Aaron likes to use.

796
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 6: And so again Adam will have to use his veteran

797
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 6: wiles to make sure he interprets that correct. Well, we

798
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 6: could have had this all here, well, I mean, that

799
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: would have been part of one of the many interesting

800
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 6: things is because as you know, there's a pretty tried

801
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 6: and true offensive system in place here and it's not

802
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: exactly hand signals and quarterback deciding things on the fly.

803
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: All right.

804
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: So ultimately, why did the Adam Thielen experiment go so bad?

805
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: Basically, he was a high price insurance policy. You know.

806
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 6: When they traded for him, Justin Jefferson had excuse me,

807
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson had been injured for almost all of the

808
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 6: training camp Jalen Naylor had just had surgery on his hand,

809
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 6: they didn't know when he was going to come back,

810
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 6: and Jordan Addison was they knew was going to be

811
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 6: missing the first three games because of a suspension, and

812
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 6: so they needed depth. And normally in those situations, you

813
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 6: have guys you either drafted or people have been on

814
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 6: your practice squad that in a very short term way

815
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: you can lean on for that period until Naylor raft

816
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 6: did you say, yeah, until Naylor's healthy and Jordan Asen's

817
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: off suspension, But none of those guys in training camp

818
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 6: showed enough for anybody to count on them, and so

819
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 6: they were in a spot where they felt like they

820
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 6: had to trade for someone just for three games, really true.

821
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Speaker 6: And then and he did play a lot in those

822
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: three games, and people have talked about he didn't catch

823
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 6: a lot, but they didn't throw a lot because they

824
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 6: didn't have a lot of offensive plays in those in

825
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 6: those games, at least not in the first two in particular.

826
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 6: And so, and of all the injuries this team has

827
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 6: had across the board on both sides of the ball,

828
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 6: the receiver position is the one where everybody's been healthy

829
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 6: all year, So you rarely run more than three receivers

830
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 6: on the field at any given time, and he was

831
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 6: the fourth, and so they didn't They were hardly playing him.

832
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: He doesn't play special teams anymore as a veteran, nor

833
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 6: should he, and so they didn't have a use for him,

834
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 6: and so they were just kind of hanging on to

835
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 6: him in case somebody got hurt, and nobody did. And

836
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 6: so finally I think he asked, is there a way

837
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 6: I can play somewhere else? And so, like, I don't

838
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 6: think that they had. I asked O'Connell, like, what was

839
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: the plan for him after Addison got back, and he

840
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 6: kind of went into the injury situation. So I don't

841
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 6: know that it like it was an experiment that went wrong.

842
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 6: It was an insurance policy they didn't need, but they paid.

843
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: It have to one part of the team that has

844
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: not had injury issues, right, can't make it up right.

845
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Usually there's a couple of nagging, you know, pulled muscle

846
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: here here or there, yea, and I mean know what

847
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: he did.

848
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: It worked.

849
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 6: The one time it worked out is when they had

850
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 6: to suspend Addison for the first quarter of the game

851
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 6: against Cleveland in London because he had missed a walk

852
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 6: through so feeling and played that first quarter.

853
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: So you have the unusual confluence of events. Right, he

854
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: leaves Carolina, Yeah, a team that's been a mess. He

855
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: comes here assuming fourteen to three a year ago. Come on,

856
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: what can this be but fun and good? So now

857
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: the Vikings sit at four and eight, twelve games in Carolina.

858
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: Is one of the talks of the National Football League,

859
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the way they've turned it around so recently. Last week

860
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: sid would tell us it's a crazy league. Right, So

861
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: he did he come close to going back there? We

862
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: know or do they have any need? I haven't paid well.

863
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: Since this time of year, everyone goes through waivers, and

864
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 6: so Steelers claimed and the Panthers my understanding was that they,

865
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 6: you know, were okay with where they were at and

866
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Speaker 6: they were not planning to claim him on waivers unless

867
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 6: he was still available in a week or two when

868
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 6: they had injuries. And so the Steelers put in the

869
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Speaker 6: claim on and and had the highest priority of people

870
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 6: who were claiming him.

871
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Is it, uh?

872
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: Do you have We talk a lot with you about

873
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, because, as it turns out, when you have

874
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: a season that goes as Paara shape as this one has,

875
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna multiply the conspiracy theories. They're

876
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: gonna be conspiracy theories to the conspiracy theories. In fact,

877
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: so one of the more recent that's been advanced is

878
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: that secretly KOs played Max Brosmer, not simply out of necessity,

879
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: but out of desire to shut all the Max Brosmer fans,

880
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: including guards the up, because if he plays the way

881
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: he did this last game, there's not gonna be a

882
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: lot of Brozemer fans who were I think, with a

883
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: straight face going to go. Got to put it right

884
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: back out there two weeks in a row. Your thoughts

885
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: tell Addison to drop that ball over the middle too,

886
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: Is that part of the conspiracy.

887
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: I was surprised you didn't go with that yesterday.

888
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: Well, I heard driving to Williams Arena, I heard you

889
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: talking about it. I wish I would have said it

890
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: yes to your face. So I had to squeeze it

891
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: into Shields.

892
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 6: Well, I think O'Connell was one of the biggest Brozemer

893
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: fans out there, and so I don't I don't know

894
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 6: that he would wait with a wink yet that he'd

895
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 6: have any personal motivation to do that. But no, I

896
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 6: has it shut the the Brosmer people up or do

897
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 6: they still want more?

898
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: Well, here's the way I would look at it. I

899
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: think the day of and Monday they were pretty were

900
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: shut up pretty good. But now is the week's going

901
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: on and go wait a minute.

902
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: You know he's a quick learner. It takes time.

903
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: Get him back out to break the first game and

904
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: give him a chance to respond. Everybody said that about JJ.

905
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Why can't we give our guy a chance?

906
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: And then?

907
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's possible, but it would be

908
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 6: nice for him to get another chance to wipe that

909
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 6: that play off of the Social House bad.

910
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: I can't.

911
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I can't defend that that.

912
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: Was a bad big of you.

913
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 5: It may mistake. It may never I mean it might

914
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 5: I feel bad.

915
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 6: It might always be associated with him in ways. Yeah,

916
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 6: you could play another ten years and do a lot

917
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 6: of good things that still be there, which the want.

918
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: To say, No, this is not that play was not

919
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: his fault.

920
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: There's a it was a ridiculous call by your head

921
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: coach who. I don't care how many times he says

922
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: now I get it. He's never going to get it. Oh,

923
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Brozemer play.

924
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now about the browser play, forget.

925
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: It's the old can you have Could any coach had

926
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: predicted that Broseman would.

927
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: Throw a pass in that panic underhanded?

928
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 5: No?

929
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: No, But nevertheless there's no getting out of not that

930
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: that call was made at given the circumstance, given the quarterback,

931
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: that call made absolutely no sense.

932
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 5: No, and he did admit that.

933
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 6: But you know, the proof will be in the pudding

934
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: and you know what's what will they do the next

935
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 6: time it's third and one or the same time it's

936
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 6: fourth and one?

937
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Will they?

938
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: Uh?

939
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: You?

940
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 6: And and to be fair, like a bootleg is one

941
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 6: of the safest things. You know, at worst you're taking

942
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 6: a sack, or you know, at worst you're you're trying

943
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 6: to run and you don't you don't.

944
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: Get it yourself.

945
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

946
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 6: But he admitted it's a bad call, Like I don't

947
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 6: think there's any dispute about it. But again, the proof

948
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 6: will be will you know, what will they do the

949
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 6: next time? And he was asked about, you know, his

950
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 6: third down and fourth down Guessling asked him after the

951
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 6: game about his third down and fourth down calls over

952
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 6: a long period of time. It's been well documented by everybody,

953
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 6: and he was didn't didn't take it very well.

954
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 5: He got a little snippy with Ben and so.

955
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: Like that I missed that. What did he say?

956
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 6: He just said, like he just said, like Ben, we've

957
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 6: talked about that and and it's been you know, we

958
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: do run into those situations and you know.

959
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: Kind of yes, more successful.

960
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 6: He's not throw Yeah, he's definitely tired of that, of that,

961
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 6: of that narrative. But it's but it's not an irrelevant

962
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 6: it's irrelevant narrative.

963
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, it's extremely relevant. All right, let's break

964
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: for the top of the hour. I'll follow up on

965
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: a couple of things off of that answer. Kevin Seffert

966
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: is with US Shields Eden Prairie, Minnesota, where I remember

967
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I see a pooch over here.

968
00:43:59,640 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 2: I forget.

969
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: This is one of those places you can you can

970
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: bring your dog right there, everywhere, there, everywhere. Yeah, the

971
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: beautiful thing is what I got barked at in the

972
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: hunting section.

973
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: Did you seriously?

974
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

975
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: I did. Was it a Saint Bernard or was it

976
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: was one of those little yip dog?

977
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: No, it was a bigger dog. But I think the

978
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: dog knew that I had no business being in the

979
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: hunting section. So it was just trying to clear me out. Interesting, yeah, interesting,

980
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: all right, Well come back if we'd love to have

981
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: your help, if you want to come to see us

982
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: and donate a toy for the uh our Big Toys

983
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: for Tots yearly event right around the holiday season. We

984
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: will be here until six thirty tonight. Louis will join

985
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: by telephone at about five thirty, but a lot more

986
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: with Seafert when we come back.