WEBVTT - 12-12-25 America's Truckin' Network

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<v Speaker 1>This is America's Truncking Network with Kevin Gordon. Welcome aboard,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for tuning in on this Friday morning. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to start off with a little bit of a weather alert,

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<v Speaker 1>give you a heads up. We'll have the full forecast

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the hour. Significant and catastrophic flooding

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<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Northwest, very cold temperatures in the northern plains.

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<v Speaker 1>Lingering rainfall from yesterday's atmospheric river over the Pacific Northwest

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<v Speaker 1>exacerbates ongoing catastrophic major river flooding and landslides, which will

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<v Speaker 1>continue across portions of western Washington and northwest Oregon for

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<v Speaker 1>several days. Arctic air will plummet southward into the northern plains,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing temperatures in the single digits to the region today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Greater Cincinni Northern Kentucky area, we are expecting,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're been telling us that buy later on this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we should well. The people will be waking up at

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<v Speaker 1>five six o'clock in the morning, they'll be seeing anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>from three to five inches of snow. So it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be interesting as far as what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the morning commute might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>difficult in the Greater Sinsaye Northern Kentucky area. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned to your weather alerts. Make sure that you're

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<v Speaker 1>up to date on that. If you're going through an

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<v Speaker 1>area you're not familiar with, make sure you're tuning into that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see something that is not part of the

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<v Speaker 1>weather report, let the people behind you know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully the people in front of you will let

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on. Because, as I've said numerous times,

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<v Speaker 1>job one is getting home safe. So let's have a

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<v Speaker 1>safe trip out there. We got initial job as claims.

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<v Speaker 1>Every Thursday, initial jobless claims comes out. Okay, Now, again

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<v Speaker 1>this affects the trucking industry because you know, if people

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<v Speaker 1>are unemployed, they're not going to be buying as much

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<v Speaker 1>and then therefore there's not going to be the need

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver stuff to the stores, which then would cut

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<v Speaker 1>down on the number of trips that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>make and affect the trucking industry. And ever since Liberation

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<v Speaker 1>Day on April to second, they kept talking about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna see a recession. We're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, the inflation's going to go out of

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<v Speaker 1>control because these tariffs are going to go. And oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, there is a show where these two

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<v Speaker 1>guys are talking about tariffs, and I got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you that two of them have no clue what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't mention their names, but it was I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to it the other day and I just it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those things where when you hear something,

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<v Speaker 1>you just you want to jump through the phone and say,

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys even know what the hell you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>The stuff that you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying just doesn't make any sense, and you really obviously

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about economics. So do yourself a favor,

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<v Speaker 1>don't embarrass yourself, and just shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, they were talking about how.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrifts said, oh, terriffs will always every time, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that it won't lead to inflation. We'll look at

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<v Speaker 1>an economics book once in a while. You bose those

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<v Speaker 1>because if you look at the tariffs over time, terraffs,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the way they're being used now, is a

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating tool to get the teriffs lowered. On the other

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<v Speaker 1>end of the countries that have been taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>us in some instances, these tariffs will go up, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course yes there will raise prices in certain areas,

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<v Speaker 1>but they will lower prices in other areas, so the

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<v Speaker 1>overall balance will be a net effect of less inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet apparently these guys don't understand that, and just

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<v Speaker 1>infuriated me to hear that somebody was actually out there

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that and have and so wrong. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the initial job as claims comes out every Thursday, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know people are unemployed, and going back to

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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Day, you know there's gonna be tremendous employment.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they were forecasting and claiming, wringing their hands

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<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be a recession, and as you recall,

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market on that day took a big plunge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know, from that day forward, not only have

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<v Speaker 1>they recouped those losses, but they have increased since the

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<v Speaker 1>first of the year thirty six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the stock.

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<v Speaker 1>Market even more than that, I believe, and day after

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<v Speaker 1>day from time to time, there have been record numbers

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<v Speaker 1>in the stock market. So anybody that's got a four

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<v Speaker 1>oh one K plan, or anybody that's invested in the

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<v Speaker 1>stock market, you are doing well, and you're if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got your retirement money in there, you're doing pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>at this point as far as you know the stock

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<v Speaker 1>market and what people were talking about. Then the stock

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<v Speaker 1>market had gone down tremendously and the people panicked, and

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<v Speaker 1>whether they were talking about, you know, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into a recession and there's going to be rampid inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to be unemployment and all this sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff, well, none of that is materialized.

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<v Speaker 1>And as fat matter factor, have been numerous situations where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we keep seeing these these headlines retail sales

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<v Speaker 1>unexpectedly higher, unemployment unexpectedly lower, job creation unexpectedly higher, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that they said we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen haven't happened. And then we come into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jobless claims on a weekly basis, and sometimes they're up

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they're down. Last week they were way down

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<v Speaker 1>to I think three year lows, and this week, if

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't a clear indication of what I have been

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<v Speaker 1>saying for a number, well for a long time, I

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<v Speaker 1>have said it on this program numerous times from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying this over the last twenty years, as

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That the spoon fed regurgitators.

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<v Speaker 1>In the mainstream media are not going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>the accurate information. It's been proven as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>what we heard about COVID. It's true what we heard

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<v Speaker 1>about Joe Biden's mental capabilities. It's true what we heard

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<v Speaker 1>in terms terms of any type of inflation numbers or

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<v Speaker 1>job numbers, as far as what's going on, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the economy is concerned, as far as who is

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<v Speaker 1>ahead in the polls, of the polling that they take,

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<v Speaker 1>those are always wrong, and climate change, all the predictions

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<v Speaker 1>that they made about climate change. And again, the spoon

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<v Speaker 1>fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, as from the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trump administration, they have been trying to talk

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<v Speaker 1>down the economy and manufacture recession. Jobless claims came out

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and the headlines, just looking at the individual headlines

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<v Speaker 1>from the individual companies of the different reporting sources, Reuters

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<v Speaker 1>US weekly job claims post the largest increase in nearly

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg US jobless.

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<v Speaker 1>Claims jump by the most since twenty twenty or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>after holiday drop. Let's see seeking Alpha initial job as

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<v Speaker 1>claims jump past consensus in first week in December four

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<v Speaker 1>X factory US job was claims surge after Thanksgiving, but

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<v Speaker 1>low layoffs are still the prevailing trend. ABC News US

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<v Speaker 1>jobless benefit applications jumped to two hundred and thirty six thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>but continuing claims are falling. The best headline that described anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and again one of those situations where you start reading

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<v Speaker 1>the story and you wonder where the hell they came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the headline A group called Seeking Alpha jump

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<v Speaker 1>in initial claims signals holiday volatility rather than trouble. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday morning, I had a doctor's appointment, which was early

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get it out of.

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<v Speaker 1>The way because I had stuff I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at eight thirty in the morning, I'm pulling

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<v Speaker 1>up the jobles claims numbers and looking at what the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines were, and Reuters at eight thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at about matter of fact, the date on the

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<v Speaker 1>here says eight forty six US weekly jobless claims surge

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<v Speaker 1>amid seasonal adjustment challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a bad headline.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of and this is the first paragraph, the

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<v Speaker 1>number of Americans filing new applications for unemployment benefits surge

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<v Speaker 1>last week, but that likely reflected difficulties adjusting the data

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<v Speaker 1>for seasonal fluctuations around this time of the year, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than a material change in labor market conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they go and talk about the number.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hours later, maybe three hours later, here's their new headline,

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<v Speaker 1>same company. US weekly jobless claims posts largest increase in

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<v Speaker 1>nearly four and a half years amid seasonal volatility. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into this. It's just infuriating me. And you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me when we get into this story, does the story

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<v Speaker 1>match the headline. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck in Network

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Need this.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the racing report on America's Drugging Network on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 3>NASCAR has reached an agreement with twenty three eleven Racing

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<v Speaker 3>in front Row Motor Sports on Thursday, ending NASCAR's anti

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<v Speaker 3>trust trial. On its ninth day, Teams attorney Jeffrey Kessler

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<v Speaker 3>told Judge Kenneth Bell that he is pleased to say

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<v Speaker 3>the parties have positively settled this matter in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that will benefit the industry going forward. A document with

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<v Speaker 3>the terms of the settlement was reviewed by Judge but

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<v Speaker 3>Kenneth Bell, marking the end of the lawsuit brought by

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three to eleven in front Row. NASCAR's anti trust

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<v Speaker 3>trial stem from a bitter dispute over negotiations for a

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<v Speaker 3>new agreement with the charter system that governs the relationship

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<v Speaker 3>between NASCAR and its premier teams. Twenty three to eleven

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<v Speaker 3>in front Row sued NASCAR Holdings for three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty five million dollars in combined damages. Michael Jordan and

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Franz commented on the settlement.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like two competitors, obviously we try to get

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<v Speaker 4>as much done in each other's favorite but I think

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<v Speaker 4>you'll collect and I don't think Jim was any opposite

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<v Speaker 4>of me. Was the fans has always been the best,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, solution to this old proceed and to the

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<v Speaker 4>support itself. The only way they and I've said this

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<v Speaker 4>from d Ones, the only way this sport's going to

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<v Speaker 4>grow is we have to find some synergy between the

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<v Speaker 4>two minutes of each and I think we've gotten to

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<v Speaker 4>that point. Unfortunately, it took sixteen months to get to here,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think you know, level heads that got us

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<v Speaker 4>to this point to where we can actually work together

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<v Speaker 4>and grow this sport. I'm very proud about that, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think Jim Jim feels a stream and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Do feel the same. But you can get back to

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<v Speaker 5>focusing and what we really love, and that's racing. And

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<v Speaker 5>we spent a lot of time and I've then, ah,

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<v Speaker 5>not really focused on that so much as we need

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<v Speaker 5>the things. I feel like that we've made a very

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<v Speaker 5>good decision here together.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the raething repard on America's Drugging Network on

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 6>Sake Denis and reporting for a t en It's former

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<v Speaker 6>Bengal and Pro Football Hall of Fame or Anthony Munos.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you know that ninety five percent of the Anthony

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<v Speaker 6>Munhas Foundations funding goes to Revue.

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<v Speaker 1>In the previous segment, I talked about this initial jobless claims.

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<v Speaker 1>The same reporting Reuters, the same group comes out with

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines and it is amazing how at eight thirty

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning they can come up with one headline

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<v Speaker 1>and then two hours later come up with a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different just to reset the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight thirty in.

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<v Speaker 1>The morning, US job as claims claims, US jobless claims

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<v Speaker 1>surge amid seasonal adjustment changes. So nothing too terrible there,

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<v Speaker 1>But then two hours later, three hours later, US Weekly

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<v Speaker 1>Job is claims posts largest increase in nearly four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years amid seasonal volatility.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, yes, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a line in this story, but is it the story?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just scrolling through the headlines, which a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are doing now, they just look at the

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<v Speaker 1>headline and that's how they get their information.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they see the thing it says.

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<v Speaker 1>Increases in nearly the largest increase in nearly four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years, people are gonna think the job market

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<v Speaker 1>is extremely weak.

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<v Speaker 2>So listen to the first the first paragraph of this

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<v Speaker 2>The number.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Americans filing new applications for unemployment benefits increased by

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<v Speaker 1>the most in nearly four and a half years last week. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds horrible, but the search likely does not support

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<v Speaker 1>a material weakening in the labor market conditions, as the

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<v Speaker 1>claims data are volatile around this time of year, does

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<v Speaker 1>that justify the headline that they put out there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like if it leads, if it bleeds, it leads.

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<v Speaker 2>Type of thing. Again, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>These spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to manufacture a recession, talk down the economy, and quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much way to say this, but

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines that we're seeing from the spoon fed regurgitators

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<v Speaker 1>in the mainstream media and what they are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the economy, which is in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>putting the idea in people's head about the economy versus

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<v Speaker 1>what the numbers are saying, and what the job growth

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<v Speaker 1>and what the job layoffs and the picture. And as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the inflation versus what the inflation was for

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<v Speaker 1>the last four years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Reversal of what should have been reported back during the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden years when you had in one month you had

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<v Speaker 1>the inflation jump up to nine point one percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>they talked about, well, you know, it's just a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>blip on the radar screen. Things will be back to normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, it's transitory. You know, everything's everything's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. It wasn't okay because the massive

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<v Speaker 1>increases that we've seen in items up to the up

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<v Speaker 1>to the beginning of this year was caused buy them

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody in the media talked about it. Now all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, things are turning around. Oil prices are

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<v Speaker 1>way down, up to twenty five percent lower than what.

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<v Speaker 2>They were at the first of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Gas prices are now below a doll There are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of states in this country right now that have

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<v Speaker 1>actually their gas prices are below two dollars a gallon.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you start lowering gasoline prices to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where people have more money in their pocket, they have

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<v Speaker 1>more you know, they're not spending as much money on

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<v Speaker 1>gasoline and on crude oil and heating oil, and that

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<v Speaker 1>for their homes. They're going to have more money in

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<v Speaker 1>their pockets. They're going to have more money to spend,

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<v Speaker 1>and the economy will grow if we could get lion

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Powell to lower interest rates. And I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody the other just yesterday morning talking about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>lower interest rates from the Fed, that really doesn't affect

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<v Speaker 1>mortgage rates.

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<v Speaker 2>And this person was a real estate person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it doesn't directly affect mortgage rates. However, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the bend smart number tied to that becomes lower credit

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<v Speaker 1>card interest rates tied to that then becomes lower prices

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates on car loans, and then eventually, because the

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<v Speaker 1>housing market is tied to the banks and tied to

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<v Speaker 1>the profitability these banks, the banks can then charge less

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<v Speaker 1>as far as our home loans are concerned, because interest

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<v Speaker 1>rates along the other way are lower for them in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of their operating costs in order to borrow money

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<v Speaker 1>from other banks. So again this eventually does filter through

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<v Speaker 1>to the mortgage rates. And the person talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't see the correlation unbelievable because when you look

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<v Speaker 1>back prior to the plandemic during the Trump administration in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, we had basically the interest rates the overnight

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<v Speaker 1>rate was around zero and the mortgage rates were about

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half to three percent. Well, when Biden

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<v Speaker 1>took office and that number for the overnight interest rate

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<v Speaker 1>went up to five percent and above mortgage rates went

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<v Speaker 1>up to seven percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So is there a direct correlation or is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, filter through the economy and filter through

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<v Speaker 1>to those numbers eventually. But again it is an effect

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<v Speaker 1>on that. So looking at this again getting into this

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<v Speaker 1>first paragraph, but the surge likely does not suggest a

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<v Speaker 1>material weakening in the labor market conditions as the claims

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<v Speaker 1>data are volatile around this time of the year, so again,

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal, but why make a big deal about it?

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the headline is concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>The larger than expected rise of initial jobless claims reported

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<v Speaker 1>by the Labor Department on Thursday reversed the sharp drop

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<v Speaker 1>the prior week, which had pushed filings to a three

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<v Speaker 1>year low.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a week ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The unemployment numbers the initial jobless claims worked to a

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<v Speaker 1>three three year low. Economists said that adjusting the data

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<v Speaker 1>for seasonal fluctuations is always is always challenging during the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the holiday season, and recommended focusing on the

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<v Speaker 1>four week moving average to get a better read of

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<v Speaker 1>the labor market. The four week average of claims suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that the labor market conditions remain stable. According to Stephen Stanley,

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<v Speaker 1>Chief US Economists, it's Santander.

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<v Speaker 2>US Capital Markets.

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<v Speaker 1>The bulk of this week to week volunteer volatility.

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<v Speaker 2>Is seasonal noise. On an underlying.

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<v Speaker 1>Basis, nothing has changed, but if anything, we would have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that initial claims are running slightly below the

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<v Speaker 1>long established trend. One of several data points that refute

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's characterization of a shaky labor

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<v Speaker 1>market I have I've not heard anybody in any of

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<v Speaker 1>these quotes, in any of these stories up to this

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<v Speaker 1>point making a comment refuting what Lion Jerry Powell said.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me repeat this on an underlying basis. Nothing has changed,

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<v Speaker 1>but if anything, we would have to say that the

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<v Speaker 1>initial claims are running slightly below the long established trend,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the several data points that refutes Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>Chairman Jerome Powell's characterization of a shaky labor market. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I've not seen many economists disagreeing with Jerome Powell, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the first times I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>that initial claims for state unemployment benefits jumped forty four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>to the biggest increase since mid July of twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>to a seasonally adjusted two hundred and thirty six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>for the week end in December sixth the labor market,

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Department said economists pulled by Royers had forecast

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred twenty Now, when we've been talking about these

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<v Speaker 1>numbers over the last year, they have talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>unemployment initial job as claims are generally ranging between two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten thousand and two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>at two hundred and thirty six thousand, jumping from a

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<v Speaker 1>three year low the previous week up forty four thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still within those parameters of the low end at

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ten thousand or two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand on the high end.

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<v Speaker 2>So rather than pointing that out, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just try to, I guess, muddy the waters and make

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<v Speaker 1>things seem worse than they are talking about. The better

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<v Speaker 1>way to gauge this the four week moving average of claims,

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<v Speaker 1>which irons out seasonal fluctuations, rose two thousand to two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixteen thousand, seven hundred and fifty last week,

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<v Speaker 1>So at two hundred and sixteen, you know, a four

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<v Speaker 1>week average, it only went up two thousand at two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixteen that's at the lower end of that

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ten to two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>jo initial jobless claims unbelievable, and there's more data in here.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck at Network seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's your trucking forecast for the Try State and the

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<v Speaker 7>rest of the country. In the Try State overnight snow

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<v Speaker 7>with two to four inches expected for most of us

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<v Speaker 7>who are under a winter weather advisory. Three to five

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<v Speaker 7>inches possible further south in Kentucky and southern Indiana as

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<v Speaker 7>they are under a winter storm warning, so we'll come

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<v Speaker 7>to an MD by mid morning Friday, a high at

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<v Speaker 7>thirty seven, so moving back into the area Saturday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 7>one to three inches of snow expected the high year

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<v Speaker 7>thirty as a winter storm watch. We'll start at ten

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<v Speaker 7>o'clock in the morning and end at seven o'clock Sunday morning,

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<v Speaker 7>with an additional one to three inches of snow possible

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<v Speaker 7>Saturday night. Mostly sunny Sunday, but very cold, a high

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<v Speaker 7>have only thirteen Nationally, a narrow band of monit to

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<v Speaker 7>heavy snow likely from the midwest, upper Ohio Valley and

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<v Speaker 7>into the central Appalachians overnight, with the second round of

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<v Speaker 7>accumulating snow Friday from the northern Plains moving southeast into

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<v Speaker 7>the middle of Mississippi Valley. Like affect snow winding down

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<v Speaker 7>but will return late Saturday into Sunday. Dryer wha they're

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<v Speaker 7>seen in the Pacific Northwest with flooding impacts continue. Record

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<v Speaker 7>warm tempest you're seen across the west, while arctic gaere

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<v Speaker 7>will move into the northern plains and upper Mississippi Valley

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<v Speaker 7>Friday and Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven hundred wlw IM Kevin Gordon is as America Struck

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<v Speaker 1>in network now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm focusing on these jobless.

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<v Speaker 1>Claims because it's been in the news today and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have made hay with it. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this before and it bears repeating. When I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the economic numbers, when I see what is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give the truth as far as what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I don't want to go into hyperbole. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to let something go out there that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go challenge, goes unchallenged. And as I've said before, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the one thing holding back this economy is high

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates. We keep hearing a little bit of inklings

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<v Speaker 1>of that in terms of when they're looking at new

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<v Speaker 1>home sales. Homes being pulled off the market, as we

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<v Speaker 1>covered earlier in the week. So these reports where people

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<v Speaker 1>are saying, you know what, my house is on the market,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going into the winner that generally allows you time

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<v Speaker 1>for people to search for homes. I'm just not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the nonsense of keeping that house on

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<v Speaker 1>the list on the market, so they delist them. That

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<v Speaker 1>is directly affected because if the houses are selling and

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<v Speaker 1>the interest rates are low, people can afford to buy

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<v Speaker 1>those homes.

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<v Speaker 2>On the flip side, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>A number of people and record numbers of people that

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<v Speaker 1>are actually canceling contracts. They actually establish a contract, say

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<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be a closing date, and then

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<v Speaker 1>back out of that contract again because of interest rates,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the cost of getting a new house and

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that comes along with that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>focus on this because again, if we're talking about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the economy is strong, whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be purchases we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we just.

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<v Speaker 1>Had numbers from Black Friday and Cyber Monday, which were

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<v Speaker 1>record numbers. So if people are out of work, if

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<v Speaker 1>the economy is crashing the way these spoon fed regurgitators

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<v Speaker 1>in the mainstream media hope it does, it bothers me

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<v Speaker 1>that they would actually hope this, but apparently they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I want to make sure that we're getting the

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<v Speaker 1>correct information out here on this program, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>have ammunition to know that what you're feeling as far

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<v Speaker 1>as your economy is concerned, is good. And all this

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<v Speaker 1>noise about well, what's going on in the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the economy, we dig into that to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>are those numbers correct? Are they giving us the actual facts?

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<v Speaker 1>And when I read stories like this just bothers me

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<v Speaker 1>that they can't do a straight up reporting. They always

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<v Speaker 1>have to throw stuff in here again, the four week

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<v Speaker 1>moving average.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Van den Houghton, lead US economists at Oxford Economics, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little surprising that recent layoff announcements haven't translated into

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<v Speaker 1>a shift in higher initial claims. An announcement is not

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<v Speaker 1>a layoff. If you announce that there are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be layoffs that is in the future. Those will get

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<v Speaker 1>some indications that they have some of these announcements that

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<v Speaker 1>beginning in March, they're going to lay people off in

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<v Speaker 1>these companies. Now, whether that happens or not, whether things

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<v Speaker 1>turn around with that company and they back off from that.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, but the initial comment about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>so one of the things that she, I guess corrects

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<v Speaker 1>herself and says, it may be that some workers who

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<v Speaker 1>have lost their jobs have received generous severance packages or

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<v Speaker 1>have found other employment, although that is more difficult in

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<v Speaker 1>the current labor market with the press rate of hiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessary, I mean, not necessarily, but again, at least

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<v Speaker 1>she's answering her own question. The Fed on Wednesday cut

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<v Speaker 1>in benchmarket overnight rate by twenty five basis points to

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<v Speaker 1>the three point fifty three point five zero to three

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<v Speaker 1>point seventy five range. US Central Bank has cut interest

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<v Speaker 1>rates three times this year. Palell told reporters that the

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<v Speaker 1>labor market seems to have significant downside risk, noting there

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<v Speaker 1>was an over counting of non farm payrolls, which policymakers

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<v Speaker 1>believe was still persisting. This is what I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday when we talk about the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the brew haha back in September or so,

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>when the head of that department got fired. When they

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>announced in September the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimated that

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and eleven fewer jobs were created in the

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>twelve months through March of twenty twenty five, So going

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<v Speaker 1>from April of twenty twenty four, during the last year

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>of the Biden administration, until March of twenty twenty five,

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the job estimates, the job creations, the stuff that the

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:40.239
<v Speaker 1>spoon fed regurgitators were telling us how strong the economy was,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>that Biden is doing a great job, that he's on

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<v Speaker 1>top of everything, that he sharp runs rings around people

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>around the office, that he's the smartest guy in the room,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. That those job numbers were overestimated by nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eleven thousand. That's on top of the eight

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eight eighteen thousand that were overreported in the

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>prior twelve months. So the twelve month period of time

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<v Speaker 1>from April of twenty twenty three to April of twenty

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs were overestimated,

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and then from the next twelve months nine hundred and

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand, So just between those two years, more than

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>what is that one point seven million jobs were overreported,

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and so all of the bragging about we have created

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>sixteen million new jobs during this administration, well maybe not

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>so much, because that's down about what fourteen to five now,

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and then when you take into consideration that act during

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, there were twenty million people that lost their jobs.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So you are now looking at a situation with their

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sixteen thousand that they were claiming. You're still talking about

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a four million jobs gap. Tweet you and you can't

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>consider a replacement job backfilling something and saying that, oh

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we have created this, you know, created nothing. All you've

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>done is ride the wave of these people rehiring the

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>people that got fired in the first place. It just

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and of course, as I keep saying, the spoon federalgurgitators

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of the mainStreet media kept misleading us, telling us that

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the job market was strong, that all these jobs were

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>being created.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Nine hundred and eleven.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Thousand fewer jobs as of from March that was reported

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in September, the equivalent of seventy six thousand fewer jobs

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>per month. The BLS will publish the final payroll benchmark

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>revision in February, along with January's employment numbers. The unemployment

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>of the employment report for November delayed by the Schumer

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>shutdown for forty three day government shutdown will be released

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>next Tuesday. It will incorporate October's nonfarm payroll data. The

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>unemployment rate for October, however, will not be available because

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the shutdown prevented them from gathering all that information. So

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see some of those numbers next week.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But if the as Jerome Powell is saying that, if

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>these numbers are not reliable and they have not corrected

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the method by which they obtain those numbers, how do

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we have the confidence that those numbers are going to

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>be accurate? And the fact that the head of that agency,

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>who they claim was doing a good job, blew it

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<v Speaker 1>by what one point seven million jobs? They'reabout maybe one

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>point eight million jobs, that that person should keep their job. Now, Okay,

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I buy the part that Okay, she doesn't really she's

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>basically reporting or was reporting, the information that was provided

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to her. But if you're embarrassed by the previous year's numbers,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you say to those people that are collecting that

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>number for you to make you look bad, that you

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>correct the methods there, the methodology by which you're doing this.

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Make sure that when you get these numbers to me

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that they're accurate, so that the agency doesn't look bad,

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but apparently not putting the pressure on them to give

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the right information led to this again a second year

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of where nine hundred and eleven thousand jobs were overestimated

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>on top of the eight hundred and eighteen million from

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the eight hundred and eighteen thousand from the previous year.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk a little bit more about this coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck and Network seven hundred WLW

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<v Speaker 6>You know what your customers are doing right this second,

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 6>the exact same thing you are listening to me, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Can network seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kevin Gordon thought on this topic and again as

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a recovering accountant, you know, I just I just can't

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>resist jumping into the numbers, looking at the numbers and saying, Okay,

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't match this, Where is this coming from?

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Does this make any sense? And take it on from

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>there now.

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>What was what's interesting is that when they're talking about

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the unemployment claims, we also have the number of the

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>unemployment rate, which two months ago had gone down to

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>or three months ago had gone down to four point

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>two percent, then it jumped up to four point three,

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and then the last unemployment number we got that it

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>was at four point four And yet we haven't seen

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>any major increases in unemployment. We haven't seen these job

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>numbers on a weekly basis spike and had been more

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>within more than what was in that acceptable normal range

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of two hundred and ten thousand to two hundred and

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand. Then we have this number that's the continuing

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>people that have done their initial jobless claims and then

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>are on continued benefits.

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>They're on out And this is this struck.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Me in this the number of people receiving unemployment benefits

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>after an initial week of aid a proxy for hiring,

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>dropped ninety nine thousand to a seasonally adjusted one point

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>eight three eight million during the week ending November twenty ninth. Now,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the previous week, they talked about how that number was

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>now up to one point nine three seven, that it

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>was creeping up there and it was in a range

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the highest in a couple of

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>years or something like that. But the difference between one

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>point eight and one point nine is a five percent drop.

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>They come in here, and then they say that some

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of the decline in the so called continuing claims reflected

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the difficulties of seasonally adjusting the data around Thanksgiving holiday

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and also could be a result of people exhausting their

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>eligibility for benefits, which is limited to twenty six weeks

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in some states.

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>But again, they should have that data. The states should

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>be able.

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>To come up with that number that, well, we had

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>x number of people that were on the unemployment and

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>after the twenty six how many people dropped off those roles?

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>They should be able to get that number very easily.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>But when they talk about continuing claims are consistent consistent

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>with a gradual rise in the unemployment rate, which was

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>at a four year high of four point four in September,

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're saying later on that they're expecting that to

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>go to four point five when they come up with

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the unemployment numbers. Well, if the number of people that

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>are continuing on unemployment has dropped by five percent, wouldn't

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you think that would reflect in the unemployment number in

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>total that maybe that four point five should be maybe

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>four point zero. It's amazing that you know that when

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 1>the numbers don't add up, and people don't, and these

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>reporters don't bother committing journalism and explaining it.

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 2>We're left to figure this out.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think, in my opinion, that that unemployment

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>number is going to be a lot higher than what

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they had originally said.

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how that goes. I just don't know.

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that the number is going to be lower

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're not seeing any of these massive unemployment numbers

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>jump on a weekly basis. And you know, if that

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go up, then how can the people You know,

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>if you have the initial claims, those are going to

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>be added to the people that have been on there

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>for a while. But if that number of people that

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>have been on there for a while drops by five percent,

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.439
<v Speaker 1>then you would think overall that that number is coming down,

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that they've either found new positions or have lost their benefits.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And I would imagine that somebody getting close to losing

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>their benefits would find something in order to make sure

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're keeping bread on the table and keeping their

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>families well, keeping a roof over their head. Again, when

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about affordability and we're talking about what's going

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>on as far as the economy is concerned one of

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the things we keep hearing about, or people will started

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about.

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And isn't it interesting that when.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Something that people harp on and talk about and keep

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>flapping their gums about, especially at the first of the year,

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Trump was in office for a week, and

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they said, I was hearing people saying, well, egg prices

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>are still high a week.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>What kind of magic Wand do you think somebody can do?

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>If you've got the bird flu, if you've got people

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>killing having to kill off the flocks of chickens, they're

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to be those dead chickens are not going

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to be laying hey. And so if you've got fewer

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>eggs and you got the same demand, those prices are

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>going to go up. But egg prices just last week

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>at our local store, a large, a large large eggs

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 1>a dozen was a dollar forty nine. Beginning of the year,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that was close to two dollars and ten cents,

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>two dollars and thirty cents. Nobody's talking about egg prices

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>anymore now, you know. Then all of a sudden they

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>jumped on the bandwagon as far as meat prices, Well,

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>if you've got the you got the people that are

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the climbingists that say that, you know, beef cattle or

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, killing the planet not only with their cow farts,

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but the fact that they're doing too much grazing and

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that there's too much water that's being used by these

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>cows in order to this cattle in order to produce,

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and farmers in drought areas or having to buy feedstock

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and buy actual feed for those animals rather than letting

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>them go out on the range and graze. Then all

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they're having to reduce their flock, their

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>herds rather, and those herds are down around the nineteen

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty levels. And if you've got twice the population, then

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a demand and not much of

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>a supply, So of course this price is going to

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>go up. USDA lowers cattle price forecast after Tyson plant closes,

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>which I thought was kind of a weird headline, but

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>when I read into it, it kind of makes a

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit more sense. Cattle prices won't rise as much

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>as previously expected in twenty twenty six, as the closure

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of a Tyson food plant is seen loosening competition for

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>scarce US supplies the Department of agriculture. On December the

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>ninth lowered its estimates estimates for cattle prices through twenty

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, citing reduced slaughter plant capacity early next year

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>and recent pricing data. Tyson, the largest meat packers, said

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in the late November statement, So the run in cost

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of those cattle or the cattle being slaughtered are lower,

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>which will then be reflected later on in the prices. Also,

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>they're upping, and Trump has reduced the tariffs on meat

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>coming in from Argentina.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Brazil, et cetera.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>So those prices should come in and start reducing those

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>prices as well.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 2>But if you're.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Dealing with the same amount of cattle as nineteen fifty

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and your population has doubled, your meat price is going

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to go up.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>And so the fact that this is being corrected.

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>And coming back down as a result of some of

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>these adjustments is a good thing. One of the things too,

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that I've been talking about as far as inflation is concerned,

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing numbers as far as inflation. However, those numbers

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>are not reflecting everything in there.

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>We're not seeing.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>They keep talking about, well, tarifts are doing this for

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>doing that, But when you look behind some of the numbers.

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that has to do with employment costs.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>People working on the job getting higher pay. And again

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not opposed to people getting more pay. I'm all

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>for that, but if that is adding to inflation, then

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>people ought to be honest about it and talk about

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it and bring it up and say, yes, inflation is up,

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but also wages are up, which is making things a

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bit more affordable. US employment costs rise at the slowest

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>pace since twenty twenty one. Annual growth of the US labor

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>costs accelerated in the third quarter to the slowest pace

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.479
<v Speaker 1>in four years, adding to evidence that the softening job

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<v Speaker 1>market is helping limit inflationary pressure. The Employment cost Index

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<v Speaker 1>that are known as ECI, which tracks changes and wages

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<v Speaker 1>and benefits, increase three point five percent in the twelve

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<v Speaker 1>months end in September, according to Bureau of Labors out Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>On an adjusted basis, the gauge rows point eight percent

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<v Speaker 1>eight tens of one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Latest figures highlight the job market.

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<v Speaker 1>And has lost momentum as many employers temper the pace

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<v Speaker 1>of hiring while some reduce head counts.

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<v Speaker 2>But again with the economy being.

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<v Speaker 1>In this no hire, no fire, policy because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to retrain their employees. Again, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the pandemic, when people shut down their businesses, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to gear back up once the businesses were allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>open again, trying to find qualified employees, trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>people that were available to come in and fill those

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<v Speaker 1>positions was difficult. So rather than having to go through

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<v Speaker 1>that again, a lot of employers are hanging on to

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<v Speaker 1>the employees that they have and maybe not reducing those

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<v Speaker 1>even though with interest rates and the financing not being

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<v Speaker 1>able to increase the capacity or increase your business, that

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<v Speaker 1>your margins are being cut.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we've been seeing, there's been an uptick a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit in terms of the production, the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>people that are coming in, the amount of business that

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<v Speaker 1>is being beginning being handled by the current number of employees.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have a bump in what business you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting an increase in sale, sometimes the amount of employees

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<v Speaker 1>you have can handle up that upward amount before you

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<v Speaker 1>have to begin to start hiring new employees. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good news. Again, I start contrast between what

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines say and what the actual story says. Is

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<v Speaker 1>bringing more true today than in most situations. Well, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we're up against clock here. Stay tuned for Retie Radio

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<v Speaker 1>at top the hour. I'm Kevin Gordon, America struck In

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<v Speaker 1>Network seven hundred WLW