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Speaker 1: DearS kfans, Ron Johnson and Eric Nordquist, Welcome to Vikings

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Speaker 1: fan Line.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson is with me.

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Speaker 2: What a disastrous mess of a Vikings defeat at so far?

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Speaker 2: This evening thirty seven to ten is the final, Just

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Speaker 2: a nice little balanced four hundred yard affair for the

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Speaker 2: Chargers offense, more than two hundred on the ground, the efficient,

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Speaker 2: nice night for Justin Herbert, nearly forty minutes of possession,

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Speaker 2: and my goodness, Ron Johnson, let's be humane. We need

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Speaker 2: to save Carson Wentz from himself. The experiment absolutely needs

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Speaker 2: to end. He might actually die out on the field.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a bit of a truncated fan

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Speaker 2: line tonight, being that it is in primetime, I got

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Speaker 2: Max Fuller on the scene. As soon as the head

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Speaker 2: coach is at the podium, we're gonna We're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: from Ko addressing the media. But let's just jump into this.

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Speaker 2: It's not even about arguing. I just I want all

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Speaker 2: of you to sound off. I got some talk talkbacks

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Speaker 2: loaded and locked and ready to go. But to the

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Speaker 2: phone lines, Dan and Austin Dan, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how you guys doing doing well?

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Speaker 2: What do you got.

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Speaker 3: You may remember I called in after the Pittsburgh game

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Speaker 3: and I talked about Addison getting caught from behind and

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Speaker 3: how just gutless that was. I actually tried to call

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Speaker 3: in last week and I was at the game, and

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Speaker 3: there was five words that came to mind. It was

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Speaker 3: the Vikings are gutless and high leverage situations. Tonight, Paradoxically,

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Speaker 3: the only person who wasn't gutless was Carson Wentz. He

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Speaker 3: was hanging in there and I just have no idea

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Speaker 3: why KOC did not take him out of the game

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Speaker 3: and put Brosmer in a lot to talk about very

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Speaker 3: tough game.

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Speaker 4: I'll hang up and listen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it right off the bat, and we

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Speaker 2: will continue to sprinkle this in. But I just want

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Speaker 2: to I want to jump into more phone calls for

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Speaker 2: me when he's holding his arm like it's about to

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Speaker 2: fall off. After the second time the Vikings passed in

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Speaker 2: third and short instead of trying to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: That was for me the moment where I wanted to

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Speaker 2: see mister Brosmoor Craig and Orno Craig welcome to Vikings

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, thank you.

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Speaker 6: So I know that koc is a former NFL quarterback

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Speaker 6: that through a grand total of four passes for twenty

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Speaker 6: three yards over the course of five years. I don't

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Speaker 6: think he's the best person to make personal decisions when

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Speaker 6: it comes to the quarterback. As a golfer season ticket holder,

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Speaker 6: I've seen Max Brosmer do really good things for the

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Speaker 6: Gophers that last season. I also echo the last person's comments,

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Speaker 6: why was he not put in thank you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that, and again I do. It's not

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Speaker 2: about cutting you off or avoiding the Brozemer conversation. But

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell is addressing the media. Let's hear from the coach.

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Speaker 7: No excuses, injuries, short week, whatever it is that is

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Speaker 7: not in any way, shape or form our standard of

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Speaker 2: To put on the field.

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Speaker 7: And we've got, as I told our team, we've got

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Speaker 2: Of us where we need to own this.

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Speaker 7: This is not a bury the tape kind of time

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Speaker 7: for our organization. This is a watch it, view it

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Speaker 7: own it. Every coach, every player, and it starts with me.

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Speaker 7: I did not have our team prepared to play, and

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Speaker 7: we'll go back to many aspects of what we need

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Speaker 7: We're going to go out there and put our best

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Speaker 7: I think we'll be able to get healthy in some

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Speaker 7: and that's what we're going to do. Injury wise, Christian

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Speaker 7: you know, there was there were some times where yeah,

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Speaker 7: There was some sloppiness, like Blake said in the interior,

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Speaker 9: Carson would like you to pay. He's hysically a good

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we kept on, you know, we kept on, you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, I, you know, Tyler was coming to me

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Speaker 7: He took obviously quite a few hits and and uh,

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Speaker 7: but he was able to. You know, I asked him

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Speaker 2: A few times. Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 7: I think you know what you have to you know,

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Speaker 7: Carson's a veteran player. He understands kind of some of

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Speaker 7: You know, I did think about that at at different

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Speaker 7: the confidence we have in Max and the up side

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Speaker 7: we see in Max is real. We just you know,

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Speaker 7: you also don't want to send him out there and

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Speaker 7: And that was kind of where the decision was to

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Speaker 7: continue to go with Carson. As long as you know,

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Speaker 7: Carson felt like he was healthy enough to keep playing,

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Speaker 7: and the medical team did as well.

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Speaker 2: How are you approach that position here in the next.

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Speaker 9: Week or so?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, you know, as we talked about earlier

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Speaker 7: kind of didn't quite feel like he was he was

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Speaker 7: he's at and the confidence level he thinks he can

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Speaker 7: get to. You know, if JJ's healthy, Jj'll play. That's

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Speaker 7: been the case since the injury. That's always been kind

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Speaker 2: Believe we're right.

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Speaker 7: You know, we're right, you know, hopefully around the corner

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Speaker 7: and go compete, because that's really you know, that's what

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 7: I know, there was a lot of estimates on what

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Speaker 7: the injury timeline and everything with a high ankle it

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Speaker 7: see how Carson comes out tonight. As far as what

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Speaker 7: our overall quarterback depths looks, like, but we will prepare.

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Speaker 7: We'll prepare our team, you know, at every position, based

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Speaker 7: upon what our health looks like. But we also need

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Speaker 7: to be ready to go to work on the practice field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hey, coach Kevin O'Connell addressing the media.

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Speaker 11: It has to be j jay. So that's just uh,

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Speaker 11: that's just.

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Speaker 2: One Rube's opinion here via fan line. Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Fan Mark in Wisconsin. It's Vikings fan line Mark. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 12: Man, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 13: It'sbend a long time.

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Speaker 14: I've been listening to you guys for jeez, over.

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Speaker 12: Twenty some years. I was going to say something a

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Speaker 12: lot of people.

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Speaker 14: Took away the Thunder about when you see a quarterback

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Speaker 14: hurt like that, and I'm a coach and youth football,

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Speaker 14: you got to pull him out. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 14: put him back out there, but it's not the end

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Speaker 14: of the world. Froley Viking Fans. I was at by

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Speaker 14: Grand Journal with Timmy Kramer, by the way, he's a

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Speaker 14: great guy. It sucks tonight, but there are more important

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Speaker 14: things in life, like your kids, your wife, your grandkids,

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Speaker 14: your true friends.

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Speaker 12: In the end, we'll forget about this game and we'll

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Speaker 14: Moving forward and don't lose friends over a game or

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Speaker 14: something stupid like this.

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Speaker 12: Everybody, you're gonna forget about.

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Speaker 14: This game in a week or two. It's like when

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Mark the wise words, real life versus

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Speaker 11: And then you heard during the pressure run.

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Speaker 2: That he had thought about putting I mean you had

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Speaker 11: They don't run it aid, it's a disaster.

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Speaker 2: The ball's batted up in the air and Carson can't

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Speaker 2: have just put Max Brosmer in that game kind of

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Speaker 15: And I don't understand why you kept the three timeouts

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Speaker 15: Max Brosemer actually was doing something. I get they were

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Speaker 15: let's get his stuff.

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Speaker 2: I well, I needed to I need to have him,

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Speaker 2: it needed to be over and it was not over.

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Speaker 2: And I just don't like that excuse weathering it for everyone.

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Speaker 2: Carson's been weathering it for everybody. And and whether it

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Speaker 15: Oh that was just I mean justin Jefferson's face alone

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Speaker 2: Like where are you throwing it? Thirty seven to ten

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Speaker 2: continue this Vikings fan line. Vikings now three and four

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Speaker 2: after the nasty, disastrous loss at so far.

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Speaker 11: This is Minnesota Vikings football.

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Speaker 2: For the Minnesota Sports follow the Leader.

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Speaker 10: Minnesota Sports Leader is FM one hundred point three listening call.

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Speaker 11: The fan.

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Speaker 5: In.

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Speaker 16: This coaching staff of the Minnesota Vikings desperately lacks having

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Speaker 16: the eye of the tiger. Not a lot of passion there.

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Speaker 16: Josh McCown after the first half going off the field, laughing,

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Speaker 16: totally inexcusable. This team needs to show some aggression and

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Speaker 2: To have to make some serious changes. First of all,

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Speaker 2: that guy's voice sounds a lot like offensive coordinator Wes Phillips.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that was Wes actually call it in.

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Speaker 2: They don't know the camera's on Imron. But you saw

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Speaker 2: Josh McCown and Carson Wentz Actually after that play I

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I don't know what's going on in that moment, but

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Speaker 15: you know, the loosen up, staying a good mood. Again,

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Speaker 15: quarterbacks are very fickle and you gotta like you. That's

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Speaker 15: that's what the quarterback coaches job is to do. To

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Speaker 15: too tense like we got we still got this. Yeah

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Speaker 15: they didn't have it, No, it was it was pretty

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Speaker 15: much over that that. That play alone should have been

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Speaker 15: the Max Brozmer inter game. Yes, like it should have been.

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Speaker 15: That's what I thought was gonna happen. And for some

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Speaker 15: a gritty performance, I guess it's the last performance maybe

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Speaker 2: For us this year. No, let Max brozmer go in

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Speaker 11: Talkback machine, stand.

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Speaker 2: Why O'Connell stuck with wins.

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Speaker 17: As long as he did. If I have three vehicles

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Speaker 2: I actually like that analogy. Thank you for the talkbacks.

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Speaker 18: Let me see here, Steve from chask I was just

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Speaker 2: What the hell? How what do you Steve? This is

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Speaker 2: probably not what the team had envisioned when they were

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Speaker 2: Sioux Falls. Shane, Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 4: Hey Nordo, how's my brisket? Smoke and girdering and Buddy, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, I need to cook something up to wash this

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Speaker 4: I could go with the low hanging food with everything else,

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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go big picture. Mark Wolf needs to

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Speaker 12: They're they're good, they're going about this and.

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Speaker 4: We got no depth. And there's that whole thing. And

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Speaker 4: know you're sick of that, you know, But koc tonight

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Speaker 4: And the coaching staff there, I mean, I feel bad

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Speaker 4: you're a professional coaching staff, and you got fifty three

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Speaker 4: professional football players. You can coach these guys up now.

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Speaker 4: Commit penalties, play good, hard football, and be respectable on

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Speaker 4: the field. Jim Harbaugh did that tonight. His team is

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Speaker 4: well coach right now. Too many dumb mistakes. They don't

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Speaker 4: ask you, well, there's something going on. I'll let you go, Nordle.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate your time, Love you too, Ron, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate I appreciate you calling in.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They were outclassed and out coached at every every

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Speaker 11: There there's no disagreement there.

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Speaker 2: And the season long vibe Ron, you know, undisciplined from

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Speaker 2: that cohesion, continuity, et cetera. Whatever word you want to

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Speaker 2: use that in the end. This this team is not

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Speaker 2: standing up to the challenge. No, and it's not getting easier.

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Speaker 2: You got Baltimore, you got Detroit, Like it's I mean,

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Speaker 15: I mean, Lamar Jackson is back this week, so we'll

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Speaker 15: so it's just like, how do you bounce back three

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Speaker 15: That's the scary thing is And at what point do

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Speaker 15: Like if JJ McCarthy can't go, Carson Wentz is gonna

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Speaker 15: give you this now.

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Speaker 2: One tweeter tweeted us because he says, we keep talking

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Speaker 15: Put on Carson or what's his name, Herbert having sixty

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: No, the defense requires a ton of counts.

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Speaker 15: Like you know, you look at the blown coverages, you

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Speaker 15: look at the wide open receivers. I mean, we know

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Speaker 15: lab mcconky and Keenan McCardell are good, but even the

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Speaker 15: tight end, you know, Gadskin or gads did like out

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Speaker 15: of nowhere.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he did have a great game last week too, but.

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Speaker 15: At some point you have to figure out how to

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Speaker 15: guard him, Like you have to maybe start treating him.

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Speaker 15: I'm not saying this, but like you should have treated

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Speaker 15: him like one of the top tight ends on the field,

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Speaker 15: Like you gotta treat him like that. Yeah, And it

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Speaker 15: just felt like the game plan. I don't know what

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Speaker 15: it was, but it wasn't good. No, and Carson or

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Speaker 15: not Carson Wentz, but justin Herbert, they made him look

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Speaker 15: like freaking I don't know. Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 15: when he runs about like it just like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 15: back in what twenty fourteen fifteen, Like he was just

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Speaker 15: running everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they couldn't tackle him like it was as

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Speaker 2: bad it was Dan and West Saint Paul Dan, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Vikings fanly.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 11: Wonderful?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 19: Well, I'm wondering why would you even consider putting McCarthy

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Speaker 19: in until you get that offensive line short up?

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Speaker 13: Because, like like.

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Speaker 19: Ron was saying, Wentz was just pancaked on the floor

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Speaker 19: all night, You're just looking at McCarthy.

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Speaker 13: Getting another injury, and.

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Speaker 19: I'm just like, why would you even consider that until

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Speaker 19: you get that line short of?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you. I appreciate the call. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where you're at around. It's because he has to

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Speaker 2: play correct, you have he has to and not then

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Speaker 2: you need to go sign Daniel Jones when the season ends.

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Speaker 2: And I would ask. I would also argue whether it's

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Speaker 2: injury or whatever the situation is, you know, from a

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Speaker 2: combination of health and then in some cases ineptitude. The

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Speaker 2: offense was way off from a timing standpoint for most

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Speaker 2: of the game. Yeah, if he walked himself into some

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Speaker 2: of those sacks. It wasn't just our offensive line is

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Speaker 2: so terrible. It's it's it's giving him no time whatsoever

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Speaker 2: to make a play. There are elements of this that

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Speaker 2: Carson has to own, I think as well. But fourth down,

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Speaker 2: fourth and goal, why are you taking a set It's

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Speaker 2: fourth and goal. Just throw it to somebody.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I get the whole Like, well, if he takes

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Speaker 15: a sack right there, then they have to drive ninety

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Speaker 15: yards to score. If he throws interception end zone, it

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Speaker 15: goes to the twenty. So what nobody's thinking that in

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Speaker 15: the moment. You're not saying, hey, if there's nothing there,

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Speaker 15: just to take the sack.

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Speaker 2: Now, whether it's that it's the intentional grounding against the

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Speaker 2: Eagles and it was a flag.

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Speaker 15: I mean they end up scoring, We know that they

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Speaker 15: end up but it was a flag, so you should

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Speaker 15: have thrown it anyway.

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Speaker 2: Like, just the amountunt of weird stuff, the amount of

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Speaker 2: red zone dumb that's taking place right now is truly inexplicable.

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Speaker 2: Nick and Minneapolis. I'm hoping that the note here is

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Speaker 2: is true because I loved Jalen Redman and have as

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Speaker 2: he becomes one of our better defenders. Nick and Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 11: Hey guys, thanks for having me on today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 20: I just wanted to touch on two things, the first

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Speaker 20: one being when you guys covered the Jailen Redmond appreciation.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't think he gives enough it from Viking fans.

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Speaker 21: He's been awesome and tonight was a full display. I mean,

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Speaker 21: he had a hand in every play. It looked like

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Speaker 21: he was the only one that wanted to be out there.

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Speaker 21: And then one other thing is I want to talk

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Speaker 21: about the Adam dealn trade.

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Speaker 20: I'm kind of curious why we made it. Traded for

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Speaker 20: a fourth round pick, for a guy that gets no

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Speaker 20: targets and for someone that doesn't want to be here,

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Speaker 20: and for his wife to be such a peat.

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Speaker 11: What happened?

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Speaker 2: He didn't finish it. That was curious.

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Speaker 11: What else he was going to say?

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Speaker 2: Have a great night, Nick in Minneapolis, Jalen Redman has

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Speaker 2: been awesome. I don't think I think Adam Feelin wants

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Speaker 2: to be here. I think Adam Feln wants more targets.

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Speaker 2: I think the offense is a complete disaster. Back to

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Speaker 2: the phone lines, Robert in Corporate Robert, Welcome to Vikings

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Speaker 2: fan line.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 4: I really enjoy your program.

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Speaker 8: And I've been watching the Vikings for a well almost

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Speaker 8: sixty years. And you know something, the end result each

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Speaker 8: year is about the same and no matter who, you know,

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Speaker 8: we're the only team that has I think my memory

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Speaker 8: serves me correct that we've lost four Super Bowls. So

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, they go out and they and

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Speaker 8: they play, but you know the bottom line is, we

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Speaker 8: just don't ever seem to put the final touches on

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Speaker 8: the on the on the game or on the you know,

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Speaker 8: what we need to do. So I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 8: I'm just frustrated, you know. Like I said, I watched

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Speaker 8: and listen to every game I can and and like

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Speaker 8: I say, I was watching that when that was black

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Speaker 8: and white TV, you know. So yeah, it's just interesting,

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Speaker 8: you know, and it's just too bad that I don't know,

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Speaker 8: I don't know enough about the game, you know, if

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Speaker 8: they need to replace the coaches or not. But the

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Speaker 8: owners should really take a serious look at what kind

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Speaker 8: of investment they have and and what they should what

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Speaker 8: they really want to do in the future too, maybe

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Speaker 8: winning a full year of games, or you know, at

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Speaker 8: least maybe be in the Super Bowl again.

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Speaker 13: Obviously this year. I don't believe it. It will happen.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Yeah, I really appreciate you calling

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Speaker 2: in and appreciate you following the team and struggling through

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Speaker 2: these Super Bowl losses. And have a great night. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, thank you Alex and Minnetrista. Alex, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, hey, thank you for listening. You know, the problem

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Speaker 13: with this team is leadership. They have an extremely talented

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Speaker 13: group of young men and a complete failure of leadership

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Speaker 13: as far as discipline is concern, right, anytime the team

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Speaker 13: allows special I'm using my fingers to say that player,

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Speaker 13: we're a completely different uniform with a million dollars worth

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Speaker 13: of diamonds and so forth. It's screams that there isn't

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Speaker 13: a team atmosphere. There's a lack of discipline that's going

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Speaker 13: to translate to all of the failures that we're seeing

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Speaker 13: right now.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't agree with you more. You know, as

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Speaker 2: you referring to like Justin Jefferson wearing diamonds or something,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that leads to the lack of discipline.

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Speaker 2: I know the penalties show it, and I mean, how

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Speaker 2: about can we just have a special teams play once

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Speaker 2: in a while. Miles Price is working his butt off

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Speaker 2: back there, Ron, and we just we can't get out

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Speaker 2: of our own way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Every time there's a big play, there's a holding or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know, from from a leadership standpoint and just

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Speaker 2: the organization of what we're seeing on game days, it's

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Speaker 2: very much lacking. So in that regard, Alex, I totally

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Speaker 2: agree with you. We're gonna pause and continue Vikings fan Line.

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Speaker 2: Ron Johnson's here on Nordo from nine to noon, Max

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Speaker 2: Fuller with us continuing to take your calls eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and three two zero five three two six talkback machine free,

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio apps and play, get some text messages, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to continue on thirty seven to ten the final

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Speaker 2: at SO five Vikings now three and four.

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Speaker 11: This is Minnesota Vikings Football.

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Speaker 2: Your radio home for Viking Football.

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Speaker 10: FM one hundred point three k.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Vikings fan Line. Thirty seven to ten, the

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Speaker 2: Final at SOFI Vikings now three and four. A disastrous

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Speaker 2: night across the board, out coach, outclassed and we're licking

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Speaker 2: our wounds with a baby bye and hopefully Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of mass unit it's going

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Speaker 2: to take to put him together. It was Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: who once said that every week felt like a car accident.

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Speaker 2: And while Carson Wentz looks like he's been in a

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Speaker 2: ten car pile up over the last month.

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Speaker 11: Talkback machine, let's.

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Speaker 2: Listen, please, Ko, you're not earning your money. O'Neil. You're

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Speaker 2: not earning your money.

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Speaker 22: A lot of guys aren't earning their money.

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Speaker 23: Man, this is not good.

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Speaker 22: They better get it together and pray Ben Kinko gets

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Speaker 22: back one offensive lineman. It's terrible. This is terrible. Rich Texas, Hey,

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Speaker 22: thanks man, appreciate it. Feel your pain.

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Speaker 24: I'm sending a talk back through the Arheart radio app.

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Speaker 4: Sound.

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Speaker 2: Do you have the guts to play it?

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Speaker 24: I have the guts to say, KOC, you need to

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Speaker 24: embrace the youth movement. Seeing Wentz out there getting beat

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Speaker 24: up and be horrible is not winning football. You need

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Speaker 24: to embrace winning football. Put in the youth movement. This

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Speaker 24: team needs an enema. Come on, KOC.

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Speaker 2: Change.

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Speaker 11: I love the production work.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 11: Just din to do an audio book talkbacks.

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Speaker 2: The guy's wearing a batman costume.

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Speaker 25: Let Carson Wentz sit out there for as long as

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Speaker 25: he was, especially with him being as injured as he was.

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Speaker 9: I I don't understand.

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Speaker 4: That at all.

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Speaker 25: And why didn't the medical team pull Wentz out? Why

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Speaker 25: was he out there? He was clearly not wanting to

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Speaker 25: be out there. It was a complete disaster. Put in

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Speaker 25: girls were.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have to disagree with you. I think Wentz

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Speaker 2: does want to be out there. He definitely does. That's uh,

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Speaker 2: that's uh. But but be humane and save Carson Wentz

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Speaker 2: from himself. Another talkback, KOs.

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Speaker 26: Only given Brosmer two minutes at the end of the

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Speaker 26: game to prove himself was pretty telling to me. He

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Speaker 26: clearly is protecting JJ McCarthy and was worried that if

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Speaker 26: Brosmer plays better, oh, there could be a little quarterback

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Speaker 26: controversy and he doesn't want that for his little little.

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Speaker 11: Precious JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of that? Rod A little so ko,

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Speaker 2: a sacrificial lamb, that is Carson Wentz. He's not putting

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Speaker 2: in brose Mur, which I think we all agree we

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Speaker 2: needed to see brose Mur. The Carson bit sadly love Carson,

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Speaker 2: You're a warrior. It had to end and it did not,

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Speaker 2: and that I have a problem with that. What do

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Speaker 2: you think about the idea that the court that the

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Speaker 2: coach is protecting prized possession by not putting in highly

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Speaker 2: potential laden rookie, the undrafted cat who could I mean,

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Speaker 2: what if he puts together a couple of scoring drives,

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Speaker 2: things just look efficient. It's back in timing Vikings even

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Speaker 2: still lose the game. But now we got the baby

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Speaker 2: buy and a week of the kid who's supposed to

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Speaker 2: be healthy in a full practice week into the kiddies game,

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Speaker 2: and people are like, I mean to go, look at

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Speaker 2: the Gopher, look at the.

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Speaker 11: Look at backs, look at what Maats did.

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Speaker 2: And that's better than what we saw from the eight

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Speaker 2: quarters of the top ten draft pick stick with Brozmer, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about that? Maybe the coach is

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Speaker 2: a little worried about that type of noise in the

661
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Speaker 2: atmosphere here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I saw in eleven get hurt one

663
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Speaker 15: time and go off on the field, and twelve came

664
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Speaker 15: in and he's been coming. One of the greatest quarterbacks ever.

665
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Speaker 15: She could have happened today. They could.

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Speaker 11: Eleven should have walked off, twelve should have walked on.

667
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Speaker 11: I didn't even think of that.

668
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Speaker 2: Yep, Jaselle Bunchon would have showed up on a white

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Speaker 2: Cloud game over La. It's a movie, you think Giselle, Well,

670
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: it's a movie. You think Giselle would have gotten used

671
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: to the I mean just Minnesota in general.

672
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Speaker 11: Jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 2: She likes jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 11: That's what I've heard as well.

675
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Speaker 2: Thank you for the talkbacks, a couple of phone calls,

676
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: and obviously Bledsoe into Brady in case people weren't eleven

677
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: into twelve. How about this, Nathan maple Grove, Nathan, welcome

678
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was just wondering, why does it seem

680
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: like Kevin O'Connell is immuneto using the middle of the field.

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00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 20: We're sending tosses over to Jordan Nason. I get excited

682
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 20: when I see.

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00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 13: A slant route.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's about it.

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Speaker 2: But no, thanks, okay, yeah, oh, absolutely, have a good night.

687
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: I haven't even ye had to use I almost had

688
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Speaker 2: to use the dump button there with with old Nick

689
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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, but I get bailed out thankfully. Uh, the

690
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: the middle of the field, that's kind of been I

691
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: mean it kind of echoes what you've talked about a bit,

692
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Speaker 2: you know. He mentions, get I get excited when I

693
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Speaker 2: see a slant, and I must say, it's kind of

694
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Speaker 2: weird to say this forty year old man sports fan.

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Speaker 2: I kind of get excited when I see a slant

696
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Speaker 2: to ride. I kind of like it. And they've been

697
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: pretty effective unless uh, and unless Jalen Carter is blowing

698
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: up Blake Brandell and putting his helmet into the ribs

699
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: of Carson Wentz and Wentz doesn't see Jaylex haunting j

700
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: Hank catches it and goes back to the end zone.

701
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: But other than that, slants seemed to work pretty well.

702
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: Now utilized in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 15: What do you think, well, slants a sexy I don't

704
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 15: really know why they do. So they do run that

705
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 15: dig route, you know, they do have that yep. I

706
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 15: don't know if they feel like Carson Wentz can make

707
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Speaker 15: some of those throws because he has that side like

708
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 15: his platform and an arm angle is kind of lower

709
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 15: than like he's not getting over the ball. So remember

710
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 15: Breeze kind of had the lean back and he kind

711
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 15: of was looking up when he threw and he like

712
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 15: wentz kind of is like a weird angle, like it's

713
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 15: always like a fingertip might hit, Like the one at

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00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 15: Justin Jefferson at the beginning of the game that he

715
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 15: call got hit, you know, like even that when I

716
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 15: was like, how did that get hit?

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00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 2: How about one even the one he threw Vikings, I

719
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: think that was on the touchdown drive. Uh, the the

720
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: one behind TJ. Hawkinson. He also had one where he

721
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: didn't even set his feet and just kind of sidearm.

722
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: Chuck did at you're a sack, Yeah, you're a sack.

723
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Speaker 2: Short middle.

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Speaker 11: You talked about middle right, so short middle, deep middle right.

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00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 15: The Chargers for this season have completed or sorry, have

727
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 15: ran seventy one plays offensively when they go to the

728
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 15: middle of the field, short or deep. The Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 15: do you want to guess thirty thirty seven really just.

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Speaker 2: Compared to seventy one and you got fifties fifty five,

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Speaker 2: fifty eight.

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Speaker 15: Sixty five, sixty nine, seventy eight like the teams there,

733
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Speaker 15: and of course you know the forty nine ers sixty

734
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Speaker 15: nine times in the middle like they are they that's

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Speaker 15: the offense, Yeah, Kevin O'Connell.

736
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Speaker 2: And maybe I'll go back and look at.

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Speaker 15: Last year's and see what's the difference, Like did he

738
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Speaker 15: do it last year with Darnold. He's just not doing

739
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 15: it yet right now compared. But it's just it's it's

740
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 15: it's it's amazing to me the lack of slants, Like

741
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Speaker 15: I don't understand why everything and the caller is right,

742
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 15: everything is outside. It's always like quick out side to

743
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 15: Justin Jefferson, let me do it, and it doesn't. It

744
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 15: doesn't always work right like out routes you're you're asking

745
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 15: for pick six well.

746
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Speaker 2: And I also I also feel like because timing has

747
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: to be perfect on those out routes as you're mentioned,

748
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: correct and sadly we saw it from the Kid QB

749
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: and the Bears game and Naseean Wright took one back.

750
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: But at the other end, sometimes you're kind of you're

751
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: limiting and mitigating space and opportunity for yards after catch.

752
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: And some of the good plays we've seen from Justin

753
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: Jefferson this year have been some things through the middle

754
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: in which he's been able to make one guy miss

755
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: and find his way through for an extra twenty yards,

756
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: so middle of the field between those hashes. Let's get

757
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: after Let's take a let's take another call, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll pause several more segments to go. Vikings fan Line,

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Speaker 2: John and Scottsdale. John, Welcome to Vikings fan Line. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for calling. What do you got.

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 27: Thanks nardol, big fan man. I'll tell you a lot

763
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Speaker 27: to Ron Guyamuro.

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Speaker 5: The bot go go for.

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Speaker 11: There, you go, thank you.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get the They're gonna get the pig on Saturday.

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Speaker 11: Let's handle that first.

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Speaker 27: Let's secure the pig. Let's secure the hogs. Guys, I'm

769
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Speaker 27: telling you, I mean this game was over immediately.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 27: KOs He really sets the tone there that third and one.

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Speaker 27: I mean, I love the guy, I really do love

773
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Speaker 27: the guy with What are we doing? Why did we

774
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 27: go get Jordan Mason? Why did we try to secure

775
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 27: the interior of the offensive line? And I mean, my god,

776
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 27: it I was hoping that Carson Wentzton get sent back

777
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 27: in a casket to Minnesota. I mean, I was really

778
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 27: hoping for the best of my guy. But I mean,

779
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 27: in the second half, would love to see a little

780
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 27: more Max Brozmer action. Ye at this point, maybe we Uh,

781
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 27: take a good look at Drake Lindsay in a year

782
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 27: or two. But no, thanks, guys, love you been been

783
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 27: listening to the fan for a long time, so appreciate it.

784
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 27: And I'll hang up and shut up, love you.

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00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, the third down, Yeah, the third and one at

786
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: their own four at their own forty one. And we're

787
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: nitpicking now because the game got out of hand. You

788
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: only had five freaking rush attempts in the first half.

789
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: Unacceptable under any circumstances. Third and one at the forty one,

790
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: you throw it, and it was incomplete, obviously, And and

791
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: then you punt. You throw it on third, and then

792
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: you punt. You only throw it on third if you

793
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: are intending for a forty speaker sorts, so you you

794
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: hit on that earlier. And then of course the third

795
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: and two at the forty seven you throw it. And

796
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: then and then Carson Wentz cam move his arm because

797
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: he has to back down his own previously batted up pass,

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00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, the the the team and and you

799
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: hit on it. I've been I mean, I just feel

800
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: like I have to. I have to contradict myself from

801
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: week to week or a week ago. They're one and

802
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: six in the in the red zone. People clamoring for

803
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: more run plays, and I'm trying to just see you know,

804
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: it's like fifty to fifty to Justin Jefferson like, I

805
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: like that play, and we saw things schemed open. So

806
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: in a vacuum, I'm thinking to myself, I'm talking talking

807
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: myself out of my own argument, and I'm saying, he

808
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: scheme guys open.

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00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 11: Quarterbacks just got to hit him.

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Speaker 2: But in the end, since Kevin O'Connell has come here,

811
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: it's true, this team's like a seventy plus percent throwing

812
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: team on third and short and offensive line discombobulated as

813
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 2: it is. Well, do I want him to step back

814
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: and throw or what I like to take my chances

815
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: with a couple of run plays. I mean, you can

816
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: use that offensive line argument either way. And there was

817
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: another thing during his press conference that I wanted to

818
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: hit into. He was asked about the run he said

819
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: he didn't want to walk us into a third and long. Well,

820
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: you had a third and one, you had a third

821
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: and two, and you didn't run the ball.

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Speaker 11: So you had those chances.

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00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: You didn't run it there either, you didn't run it

824
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: out of worried to be third and long and then

825
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: when you had the third and shorts you didn't run

826
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: it either. I'm having a hard time with iron the

827
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: run plays and that run rhythm.

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Speaker 11: This is this has to be better, I believe.

829
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: And the thing is, though, we so a couple of

831
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 15: things you hit on when you look at third and

832
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 15: three to one, right, so third three to one? Yeah,

833
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 15: the Minnesota Vikings, they're way too like twelve passes to

834
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 15: ten runs.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be there, right, it's two balanced. There's no

836
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: reason to be balanced on third and one. You look

837
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: at the Philadelphia Eagles. We already know the answer there,

838
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: like go get the first down. You know the LA Chargers.

839
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Guess what they do on third and one to three?

840
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: They run the ball twenty one times. They run the ball.

841
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: And they're not even known for running the ball. How

842
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: about this. They were they had twenty nine first downs tonight. Yeah,

843
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: they only had to get nine of them on third down.

844
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean they got twenty first downs tonight on first

845
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: and second down. Yeah. But when they get there, they'll

846
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: run the ball, is what they'll do. They were nine

847
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: to thirteen on third down tonight. They run the ball,

848
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: they certainly do. And you know they're actually at it.

849
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: They're running at a lower rate in twenty twenty five

850
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: than they were even a year ago, and bringing in

851
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason, and you know, kind of excited about, you know,

852
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: keeping what this tandem would look like with with Aaron Jones.

853
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: It has not come to fruition through seven games. Let's

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00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 2: pause and continue on it's Vikings fan line. Vikings lose

855
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: thirty seven to ten at so far. And the home team,

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00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers, who I believe had lost three

857
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: or four and they had given up one hundred and

858
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: forty yards on the ground a game, and they were

859
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: really gripping and couldn't figure out who was going to

860
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: run the ball for him. I'm making Vidal Sassoon stupid,

861
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: stupid jokes all week. Well, Vidal got loose. What was

862
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: I supposed to do?

863
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: Ron?

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00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but Vidal was fantastic tonight because harball, what

865
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: did he do?

866
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 11: He committed to the Rocks. Sassoon, he was still a thing.

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00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: I don't think it is super outdated. Cal Yeah for

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00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: Kalgan take me away?

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Speaker 11: All right, So this is this is where we're at.

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00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: The teams three and four, and uh, we're very frustrated

871
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: four hundred yards of offense those chargers.

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00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 11: What are we doing? Flores?

873
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we got to figure that out and we're going

874
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: to continue to take calls, texts and talkbacks. It's Vikings

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00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: Fan Line on Kfan and the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network.

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Speaker 28: kfas head. Get this now streamed live to Minnesota residents

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Speaker 28: on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 29: Hey guys, Nick from Hawaii, Oh, say hello, how how

880
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Speaker 29: about Sam Donald?

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Speaker 11: How about him?

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00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 30: You know, Liter's had been the worst.

883
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Speaker 27: Case scen area. If Sam Donald tore it up like

884
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Speaker 27: you did the.

885
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: Previous year, the bus like the two games and J. J.

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Speaker 30: McCarthy sat on the bench and watched this win a

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Speaker 30: super bowar G.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just the whole s getting.

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Speaker 8: Here of Donald.

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Speaker 27: I've been a man of the malt I'm plucky of

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Speaker 27: your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it.

893
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Speaker 4: Nick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at the time, the conversation was, you couldn't

895
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Speaker 2: do what you did in free agency if if you

896
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: had paid Sam Darnold whatever that money would have looked like.

897
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Speaker 11: At one point it sounded like they were set on.

898
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: They offered a contract to Daniel Jones Daniel Jones took

899
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: one look and he said, Minnesota or Indy JJ McCarthy

900
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: the way everything's pushing towards him and the future here

901
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: or Anthony Richardson. I wonder which one is going to

902
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Speaker 2: give me the greater opportunity to start. And it looks

903
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: like Daniel Jones took. But yeah, now, I mean fast

904
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Speaker 2: forward though, I'm starting to think to myself, what are

905
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Speaker 2: the additions outside of Isaiah Rodgers. Correct, I'm having trouble pulling,

906
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: you know, finding that return on investment. Yeah, Kuda has

907
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: not done much. Sadly, he's got you, I mean, you

908
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: know all Joe. I want him to be healthy, but

909
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: said I think he's got more concussions and passes defense

910
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five and sounds like he got injured tonight,

911
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: So hoping he gets healthy. But man, him, I couldn't

912
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: tell if it was that Okuda on lad McConkie, or

913
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Speaker 2: was that yeah, yeah, Elijah Williams trying to run down

914
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Speaker 2: the field, Yeah, yeah, it was Yeah, it's he was smoked.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he thought the ball was thrown to

917
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Speaker 2: at one point.

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Speaker 15: I think he because he kind of like slowed up

919
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 15: and then he tried to speak, it was too late.

920
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: It's like once he gets going, it's over for you.

921
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I mean yeah, McConkie didn't need This

922
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: wasn't like a late hand situation. Yeah, he had fallen.

923
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: It was he was kicking little rubber beads up in

924
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Speaker 2: his face as he ran easily into uh, into the

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Speaker 2: end zone. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 11: It was bad talkback machine.

927
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Speaker 9: In Michigan. I do feel bad for the Wills. I

928
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 9: feel like they are stuck with some guys that walked

929
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 9: in and they intergrewed well from the job and they

930
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 9: charmed them.

931
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Speaker 2: And here we are.

932
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: Could have had a.

933
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: Guy like hard Bob. We don't.

934
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Speaker 9: And uh, I need to see more with these guys

935
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Speaker 9: be hired. Are it's going to just be another side chapter.

936
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 9: We got to move on full vice.

937
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Well here's what I'll say, Ryan, and I want your

938
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Speaker 2: thoughts on this.

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Speaker 22: Ron.

940
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Speaker 2: I got a chill and I got to I think.

941
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: And people are free to do what they do. I

942
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: would never demand that anyone listens to me. I'm not

943
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: a point of authority. I am superior to nobody in

944
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Speaker 2: no ways. However, I got I gotta have some people

945
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: take a breath. If they're so willing and incline, let's

946
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: take a breath on the KO thing. Let's take a

947
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: breath on the coaching staff thing. They were outclassed and

948
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: now coach Tonight. All of that is totally valid. What

949
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 2: I will say is I am interested to see how

950
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: the head coach handles true adversity. Twenty twenty three, I

951
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: get it, Kirk Tears's Achilles at Lambeau and then Dobbs

952
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: Dobbs Dobbs, and we got like Jaren Hall on the

953
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: field for a half again, that was ridiculous, Never should

954
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: have happened. And Nick Mullens throws it to the other

955
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: team as much as he throws it to his own.

956
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 2: So that's that's adversity in some way certainly. But think

957
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: about this man, you you build twenty twenty five as

958
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Speaker 2: the toda. Here we are.

959
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 11: With the with the with the.

960
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: The fable draft pick yep, and everything was pointed in

961
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: this direction. You do bring in the defensive talent that

962
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: looked terrific on paper. You believe that you beefed up

963
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: your owl line and everything is falling apart. I am

964
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: interested to see how Kevin O'Connell handles what I believe

965
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: to be true. Adversity really for the first time in

966
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: his coaching career.

967
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean injuries are killing them right now, like

968
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 15: c J Ham out back in out again, Fries Kelly

969
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 15: like everybody's just getting banged up, Brian O'Neill, Darris Saw,

970
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 15: like Donovan Jay. I mean, the entire offensive line at

971
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 15: one point this season has been hurt.

972
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Derris Ow and you're dumb,

973
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: but that's the adversity within the quarterback room alone. Then

974
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: you talk about the additional injuries on defense. Then you

975
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: talk about office because even though Ko is the offensive coordinator,

976
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 2: still his entire team. I think it was twelve guys

977
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: that counted today out or on ir. Yeah, that's a lot. Now,

978
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Now Devil's.

979
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Speaker 15: Advocate because some people at Homer probably like, wait, would

980
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 15: Chargers seventeen and they still are finding ways to win games.

981
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: So but their quarterback they got legit, They got one

982
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: thing that's pretty quarterback is legit, which the Vikings need to.

983
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 15: Be out and lab McConkey and you got this run

984
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 15: Like this run game the fourth running back today had

985
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 15: over one hundred yards for them. The fourth our starting

986
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 15: running back had three yards, three three yards.

987
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: That's what's so crazy.

988
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 15: I don't know if you've ever seen that tweet NORDA

989
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 15: where they're like, would you be able to get five

990
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 15: yards if in ten attempts at running back against the

991
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 15: NFL defense and an NFL offensive line, And everybody always

992
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 15: try to say, oh, yeah, that's that's a half a

993
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 15: yard per carry. Jeorge Mason had four carries today in

994
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 15: three yards. It's not easy to do. And he's a

995
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 15: he's a he is a world class athlete. So was

996
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 15: it that they just got their butts kicked? Or is

997
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 15: it that the calls are not right? Is it that

998
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 15: it's predictable? I mean, you can go down the line

999
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 15: about what happened to night. At the end of the day,

1000
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 15: both sides of the ball lost this game. You know,

1001
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 15: it wasn't just the quarterback. It wasn't just the receivers.

1002
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 15: And honestly, I don't I can't even say the receivers

1003
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 15: is anything wrong until I watched the film, I don't.

1004
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: I think they're the one blameless group.

1005
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 11: No, I think.

1006
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: Receivers did nothing wrong. Yeah, Addison was terrific. Justin jefferis

1007
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: is there? How could you ever look down upon what TJ.

1008
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Hockinson actually caught one. Yeah, but like Dallas Turner, the.

1009
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 15: Only thing Dallas Turner did tonight was dolphin hit the

1010
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 15: quarterback in the head.

1011
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, those dumb Like what was that? He had another

1012
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: penalty that was declined? I think like if he was

1013
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: in college, he had been thrown out the game for

1014
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: target targeting? Yeah, well what was that?

1015
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 15: Like it like and again I watched Gennard and I

1016
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 15: don't know if you watched him on a couple of

1017
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 15: those plays they were showing Gunnard. Yeah, first and secondary

1018
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 15: move off the line of scrimmage is nuts, Like he

1019
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 15: continues to fight the hands of the line. He never

1020
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 15: just gets grabbed and stay out on the defense.

1021
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: He is working so hard, he's defeating double teams. Now

1022
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: he's freaking hurt with him it's.

1023
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 15: The quarterback and then still track back down the track

1024
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 15: and made the tackle seven yards down the.

1025
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: Field, freaking Tyler Battie in there.

1026
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's just it's you can find some bright spots,

1027
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 15: but to blame this like oh the coach this, it's

1028
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 15: it's not that you can't blame that, Like, should Isaiah

1029
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 15: Rodgers have caught the ball?

1030
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1031
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 15: Should Josh Mattel's way, he did catch it. Should the

1032
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 15: rest stop cheating? Yes, suld.

1033
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: Should should where's the cash Totel press conference on that.

1034
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 15: Terry Rozuer was at this game. Terry was like, Hey,

1035
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 15: look man, I'm in deep I'm in deep water. I

1036
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 15: need this one. But I mean, it's just it's it's

1037
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 15: when you look at the way it played itself out,

1038
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 15: like there's so many things that like Josh mantelis is like,

1039
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 15: it's not my fault. I shouldn't be doing this, Or

1040
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 15: how come you don't have a faster cornerback or safety

1041
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 15: the game to watch the quarterback?

1042
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: How about second straight game mattel is getting caught. I

1043
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: mean it was it was aj Brown last week. And

1044
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: then it's that second chance because this pass rush is

1045
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: so impotent right now, Herbert's just able to bounce around

1046
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: it gain You're right, and Josh Hotel has had him

1047
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: on the first part of the coverage but not sing

1048
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: and he got to run back the other way.

1049
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 15: And it's just it's not, like I said, it's not

1050
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 15: his fault that they're not getting to the quarterback. Yeah,

1051
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 15: you know, and again I think Grenard's trying all he can,

1052
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 15: but he needs vang ginkle like he does.

1053
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: He needs vanng Ginko over there. And that's I mean.

1054
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: I saw this text and I'm glad you brought up

1055
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: Turner because it was just nonsensical what happened on the

1056
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: field with the with the rough and the passer. But

1057
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: but I see the text feels like it's another massive

1058
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: miss by our GM. And I've always kind of said it.

1059
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: It's like we're we're midstream right now, like this ain't

1060
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: the time to take the GM deep. This ain't the

1061
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: time to start. But keeps going like this, It's gonna

1062
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: be time. Yeah, Dallas Turner has to watch Grenard more.

1063
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: The criticism of that texture and those that look at

1064
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: this when when you talk about the equity involved in

1065
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: the acquisition of the pick and all of those things

1066
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: and what's working and what's not working, those arguments are

1067
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: very valid. There's no doubt about that. Here's what we

1068
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: should do because we still got full phone lines, got

1069
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: a bunch of talkbacks. At this point, We're going to

1070
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: say good night to the Vikings Audio Network. Next time

1071
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: you hear from us is going to be eleven am

1072
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: a week from Sunday, and it is the Minnesota Vikings

1073
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: at the Detroit Lions. Who's going to play quarterback? We

1074
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: got a full week, thankfully to try and figure that

1075
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: one out. But it's a nooner at Ford Field and

1076
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: the Vikings at three and four are going to facing

1077
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: the face the kiddies who I believe will be fresh

1078
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: off the buy with Gibbs and Golf and Montgomery and

1079
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: I'm monro Saint Brown and Laporida and Aiden Hutchinson.

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00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 11: But thank you so much for listening to fan Line.

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00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,640
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Speaker 2: point three FM the Fan. The Vikings lose thirty seven

1084
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: to ten to the Los Angeles Chargers. We'll be live

1085
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: and local with the power trip from Vegas at five

1086
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: thirty nine to noon. I'll be in for PA commiserating,

1087
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1088
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1089
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,279
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to Vikings fan Line, those of you

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00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: the Vikings lose to the Chargers, outclassed and out coached

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Speaker 2: every step of the way. The Minnesota Vikings defense gives

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Speaker 2: up more than four hundred yards. Nice little balanced attack

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Speaker 2: by the Chargers this evening with more than two hundred

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Speaker 2: yards on the ground. Kamani vidal I doubted him well.

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Speaker 2: He was part of a rushing effort with two o

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Speaker 2: seven Herbert himself sixty two on the ground, but two

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Speaker 2: twenty seven through the air, three tds, one pick to

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Speaker 2: Mittelis and a buck twenty two passer rating Lad McConkey, Ronde,

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Speaker 2: Gadsden the second and Trey Harris all finding their way

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Speaker 2: into the end zone with pass It was brutal tonight,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. And let's jump to some talkbacks and

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Speaker 2: a text, and we'll start with Ed in North Minneapolis.

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Speaker 13: Ed.

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Speaker 11: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 31: Hey, guys, how you doing? A lifelong Vikings fan? I

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00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 31: love him, I support him. I'll never give up. You know,

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Speaker 31: we're in the playoffs until we're physically eliminated. But my

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Speaker 31: question for you guys is Flow seemed to show an

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Speaker 31: open middle to the Chargers tonight and they just shredded

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Speaker 31: us with running the ball. Herbert So that and moving forward.

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Speaker 31: I totally believe in koc I think he's a very

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Speaker 31: good coach. He's shown that with the two big seasons

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00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 31: where we've had wins. Too clearly we are not the

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Speaker 31: same team when we are ahead and again aim then

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Speaker 31: you know flows defense tends to you know, you could

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Speaker 31: really get after the quarterback. But I think moving forward,

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Speaker 31: it's on it's on Quacy. We have not addressed the

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Speaker 31: line until this past offseason, but now we're at the

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Speaker 31: point where we got so many injuries. I'm worried about

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Speaker 31: our guy at center. I mean I'm more worried about

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Speaker 31: his life moving forward than whether he'll play football for us.

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Speaker 31: So just need to hear what you guys think.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Ravaged by injuries, Ryan Kelly on I are hard to

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Speaker 2: say if he'd even return this season.

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Speaker 11: We'll see what those concussions.

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Speaker 2: Michael Jurgins and and Blake Brandell, the other options hasn't

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Speaker 2: looked great save for that that debut performance in London

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Speaker 2: by mister Brandell. Yeah, Christian Darisaw who couldn't go, I

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00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: do want to address right out of the gate. His

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Speaker 2: first question was about just I mean, it was open

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Speaker 2: all night. We've talked about this before, just open all night,

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Speaker 2: whether it was Attel in twenty twenty two, and we've

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Speaker 2: seen it in different stages where it's you know, last

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: week it was Eric Wilson taking the cheese on the

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Speaker 2: front end towards a Goddard streaking across the middle. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: he's leaving Devonte Smith a ton of room behind him

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Speaker 2: for those mid range games and a career day it

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Speaker 2: was for Devonte Smith. Anything you're seeing, specifically from a

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Speaker 2: coverage perspective, that is troubling to you.

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Speaker 15: So I've talked to Brian Flores about this before, and

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Speaker 15: the dvs do have the opportunity to kind of pick

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Speaker 15: their own coverage.

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Speaker 11: And when I say that, like he gives them the base.

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Speaker 15: So if it's cover two, they can within emotion because

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Speaker 15: you know when I did the numbers on cars on

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Speaker 15: Justin Herbert on third down, specifically, if you look at

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Speaker 15: the amount of times he's shift in motion leading up

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Speaker 15: to this game, it was sixty seven out of eighty

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Speaker 15: five times, so eighty percent of the time he's gonna

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Speaker 15: shift or motion his guys. So he does that one

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Speaker 15: to identify what the coverage is, and then he wants

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Speaker 15: to be able to ignite a change within because he'll

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Speaker 15: move that running back and that changes the whole thing.

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Speaker 15: You'll see him moving from the right to the left.

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Speaker 15: Now he's changed it. So he's changed either the protection

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Speaker 15: or he knows somebody's blitzing, or he's trying to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 15: I want you to be hot, goinge to the left,

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Speaker 15: not to the right anymore. And then he wants to manipulate,

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Speaker 15: and that's what he does. And so he was manipulating

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Speaker 15: the middle of the field. I don't know if whatever

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Speaker 15: he was doing he understood exactly what Brian Floores wanted.

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Speaker 15: It made no sense not to just go basic, like,

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Speaker 15: don't move it all. We're gonna play cover two. Let's

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Speaker 15: play Tampa two. Let's play Tampa two. Spy like, keep

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Speaker 15: it basic so that Justin Herbert can't figure it out.

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Speaker 15: When you start running and crossing the field and your

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Speaker 15: cornerback goes back to safety, your safety comes down in

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Speaker 15: the box, your other linebacker goes out and plays corner.

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Speaker 15: It looks cool, it sounds cool, but it doesn't work

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Speaker 15: when nobody's watching the quarterback anymore because they're running full

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Speaker 15: speed to get to their spot. But if I can

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Speaker 15: just stand there and stare at the quarterback and then

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Speaker 15: drop to the hook, I can see that.

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Speaker 11: Okay, wait, we're kind of covered.

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Speaker 15: And now you got to have that internal clock like

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Speaker 15: I even paced one time. I don't know if you

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Speaker 15: saw it, the one run he had. I even paced

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Speaker 15: went and touched the receiver on the hook, like you

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Speaker 15: don't have to touch him when the ball comes, just

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Speaker 15: knock it down.

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Speaker 2: He like went and touched.

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Speaker 15: Him like to make sure, like okay, I got it,

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Speaker 15: tag you're it, Like.

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Speaker 2: Why are you touching him? Leave him, like stay in.

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Speaker 15: Your spot if he throws it, dive and knock it down.

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Speaker 15: If not, be close enough and have your eyes on

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Speaker 15: the quarterback to be able to chase. And that maybe

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Speaker 15: is why I even Paced didn't play last week. There's

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Speaker 15: something fundamentally wrong with him when he's dropping back to pass.

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Speaker 15: And I don't know if it's too much information. I

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Speaker 15: don't know if that's what he's told to do, like hey,

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Speaker 15: go touch the guy running the hook. You don't have

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Speaker 15: to touch the guy running the hook. So a lot

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Speaker 15: of that to me is concerning to be like why

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Speaker 15: is the middle of the field wide open? Why is

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Speaker 15: the quarterback just able to not once, not twice, not thrice,

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Speaker 15: not four times or whole I can't well say, ohle

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Speaker 15: bunch of times.

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Speaker 2: Like you don't know if you remember that from wife

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Speaker 2: and kids. If you guys haven't seen that episode, it's awesome.

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Speaker 24: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He came out on a horse named Cecilies. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: you know, by the way, I saw a urinal advertisement

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Speaker 2: a few days ago, Cat Williams, I believe he's in

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Speaker 2: town tomorrow night. Oh you were at the urinal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I thought you saw advertisement selling urinal. There was a

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Speaker 2: urinal advertisement when you were using the bathroom some day.

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Speaker 2: You were just staring at Kat Williams while you were

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Speaker 2: holding yourself.

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Speaker 11: I was, I think he's gonna be in tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Cool news. Look, we went to the

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Speaker 2: Cat Walliams last time. I'm actually with Keenan mccardial. Funny,

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Speaker 2: you know, funny story. Yeah, he is funny. But when

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Speaker 2: you look at that right, that situation of.

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Speaker 15: Seven times he was able to just run up the

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Speaker 15: middle and get he was almost nine yards of carry

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Speaker 15: for the quarterback. Nine yards of carry and he's not

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Speaker 15: a running quarterback. There's something off there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with you on that. Chandler and Sioux Falls. Chandler,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, well, Fall I don't know what that's saying.

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Speaker 5: Earlier was talking about Brian O'Neal, because last time I checked,

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Speaker 5: I don't think he was in the starting lineup. But

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Speaker 5: I do want to talk about the offensive line. Yeah, Ron,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm not an All twenty two kind of guy.

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Speaker 5: I don't you know, have that access or pay for that.

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Speaker 5: But is it a physicality thing that this offensive line,

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Speaker 5: even the defensive line can get a push or anything

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Speaker 5: up front? Or is it scheme like what is its

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Speaker 5: quarterback now getting the ball out of the hands fast enough.

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Speaker 5: It just feels like a year after year we're getting

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Speaker 5: you know, bullied around up front, and that's just been

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Speaker 5: kind of the same scene over and over again. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the worst thing comes the worst. You know, Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 5: can get busted tomorrow for playing poker with the mob.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'll hang up in Lesson.

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Speaker 2: I got a big shot Chaulncey billups out of this man,

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Speaker 2: you know, lack of It's interesting you got Chandler and

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Speaker 2: Sue Falls talking about the physicality and then I saw

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Speaker 2: this Cordell in Sue Falls. Different phone numbers so I

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Speaker 2: can confirm different people's Cordero Patterson just Cordell the worst

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Speaker 2: this way he says, the worst tackling exhibition of the

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Speaker 2: season by far, Herbert is not Lamar was able to

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Speaker 2: evade and rush with ease. Looked like Bobby Douglas when

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Speaker 2: he decided to run. You could have had one hundred

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Speaker 2: yards rushing if you wanted.

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Speaker 11: Too bad.

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Speaker 2: We weren't playing flag football because that would have helped.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's the physicality and the on line physicality and

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Speaker 2: the tackling game, and the physicality specifically in the tackling

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Speaker 2: is a theme that you and I have kind of

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Speaker 2: that topic. We've broached a few times this year, but

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Speaker 2: certainly seeing it up front with the Minnesota Moving company

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm not gonna blame the way the quarterback is

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Speaker 15: being treated, but I have to blame a little bit.

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Speaker 15: Like if you watch the way some of these guys

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Speaker 15: run a quarterbacks, it's not reckless abandoned anymore.

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Speaker 11: They're so worried about hitting the quarterback too hard.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if you saw that when the quarterback

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Speaker 15: just got hit in the pocket, wasn't watching that the

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Speaker 15: blitz was coming from them from behind and they threw

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Speaker 15: a flag because he hit him too hard?

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Speaker 2: Which game was that?

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Speaker 11: I forget? It was either Aaron Rodgers or somebody.

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Speaker 15: I have to go back and look if you just

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Speaker 15: probably google it, Like Egregious rough In, the passer had

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Speaker 15: the ball. We've seen a few of them, had the

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Speaker 15: ball in his hands, did not fall on him, hit

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Speaker 15: him just super hard in the back, and then the

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Speaker 15: the linebacker fell off to the right, quarterback fell on

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Speaker 15: his face.

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Speaker 11: They threw a flag, right, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 15: And I'm not saying that's the reason why they're missing

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Speaker 15: these tackles. I'm just saying, like the one where Justin

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Speaker 15: Herbert ran and kind of fell forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day, you could have went face

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01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: forward to and put his head into the turf. We

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01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: saw Allas Turner wasn't worried about that. You can't do

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01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: that anymore. So now you gotta like Josh Mntellens was like,

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Speaker 2: should I hit him? Is he gonna slide?

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Speaker 15: Is he gonna Like if quarterbacks are not gonna slide

1303
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 15: every time, and we're gonna treat them like that, you

1304
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 15: have to be able to tee off on a quarterback

1305
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 15: once he starts running. I'm not again, I'm not blaming that. X.

1306
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 15: Don't don't tweet at me and say, oh, you're making

1307
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 15: an excuse me, that's definitely not why they were missing tackles.

1308
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying on that. But Kamani Vidal, Yeah,

1309
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: that's bad. Yeah, that was missing. He was dragging people.

1310
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: It looked like Barry Sanders at one. I'll give you

1311
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: there was one run. I think he went for like eighteen.

1312
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: I'll give Jalen Redmand some grace because he had one

1313
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: arm on Vidal and he was also like trying to

1314
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: break off off and get off an old.

1315
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 11: Lineman at the same time.

1316
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: But even I mean hit man, dude, Like I mean

1317
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: these guys, he got carried for five yards. The tackling

1318
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: is brutal at times, soon a slippery it is vedala soon.

1319
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: I guess I should be saying that in an affectionate matter,

1320
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: given how slick he was, There's no doubt about that.

1321
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: And he was slick for a buck seventeen on the ground.

1322
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: Good for Vidal, best game of his career, I think,

1323
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: or no, he had a good game a couple of

1324
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: weeks ago, but Harbaugh was just committed to it. Let's

1325
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: play something positive and then pause, Hey, Nordo, we got

1326
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: some positive vibes here, Okay, let's not lose faith on

1327
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: the Vikings.

1328
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: Yes, we look.

1329
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: Very bad, but at the end of the day, we

1330
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: get our boy McCarthy back next week. J I don't know.

1331
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 16: I have a good feeling. I don't know if we're

1332
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 16: going to beat the Lions, but I think we'll be

1333
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 16: able to come out.

1334
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 19: The offensive line was not horrible.

1335
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: I think Wentz holds the ball way way too long. Agreed.

1336
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 16: I give Wentz props though I think he knew it

1337
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 16: was his last game and give everything he could.

1338
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: We just weren't good enough.

1339
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 11: Onto the next one.

1340
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 4: Skull Vikes.

1341
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you know, when we wake up tomorrow, we'll

1342
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: be a little bit tired, but we've got to get

1343
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: the Friday started. Maybe there is by the time we

1344
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: can maybe maybe not tomorrow, but we turn this over

1345
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: to Monday and we start thinking we will get to

1346
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: see JJ McCarthy again. The team's three and four, the

1347
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: sun that come out tomorrow. You you laid it out

1348
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: absolutely will and we had we had Mark earlier. I mean,

1349
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: it's all about real life, not the frivolity of sports.

1350
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: But it's about real life. Hug your wife and kids.

1351
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: Yea gentlemen, but uh, but to that end by Monday.

1352
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: If are you able to do it at some point

1353
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: where you want you want the team.

1354
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 11: To win games?

1355
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: Okay at three and four seasons, not over certainly, but

1356
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: can you can you turn that page where you start

1357
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: to kind of think.

1358
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 11: Well, win or lose.

1359
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: There is a great opportunity here to finally, hopefully just

1360
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: get to see what the kid has. Can can you

1361
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: do that? Or is it still three and four? It's

1362
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: like you go out and and JJ even has just

1363
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: you know, let's say it makes his his second debut

1364
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: of the year.

1365
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 11: I suppose against the kiddies, and you lose.

1366
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: That game, you're three and five.

1367
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 11: That's a bad game to come back to.

1368
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tough game. It's a bag.

1369
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 15: I mean, have you seen I mean, you've seen it.

1370
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 15: He set offenses just that run game.

1371
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: Dude, I thought I thought they'd regress. Man, they have

1372
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: not regressed. They regrets for the first game. It took

1373
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: the new coordinator one game, one game to figure it out,

1374
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: and then he realized, wait a minute, I got these

1375
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: two running backs. What am I doing?

1376
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 11: Did you see Gibbs on that seventy.

1377
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 15: Antoine Winfield almost go to hamstring? He was seven yards

1378
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 15: ahead of Gibbs, and Gibbs still beat him.

1379
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: On the ankle. If we if we tackle next week

1380
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: like we did tonight, like we did against Philly, like

1381
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: we've done, I mean nothing.

1382
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 15: Against Harrison Smith and and those none of those guys

1383
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 15: have that speed.

1384
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 11: They're not going to keep up with Gibbs. And Gibbs is.

1385
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 15: Like and he's only having to touch the ball twelve

1386
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 15: to fifteen times to get that.

1387
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: All right.

1388
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 11: See, that's the thing we just turned positive vibes into.

1389
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: Now I'm just saying, here's the thing.

1390
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 15: So if Jason McCarthy, let's let's go with the I

1391
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 15: want to say McCarthy's in that fourteen play drive we

1392
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 15: just saw from the other team. Right, because you watch film,

1393
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 15: everybody watching, you watch your opponent as well, that's.

1394
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: What they need to do. Hardball clearly has a plan

1395
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: with Herbert. You have to do that, which is Jason McCarthy, well,

1396
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: hopefully can run with that ankle.

1397
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 15: Jason McCarthy can run, So give him that trigger. Hey

1398
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 15: one one thousand, two, one thousand, We all did it

1399
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 15: as a kid. Go yeah, one one thousand, two, one thousand, Nope,

1400
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 15: go like Carson Wentz and I think one of the

1401
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 15: callers said earlier, we didn't hit on that.

1402
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: He does hold the ball too long.

1403
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 15: He does hold the ball like he never pulls it

1404
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 15: down and just takes It's always like he right, he's

1405
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 15: backing himself into sacks.

1406
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: That's that's why I didn't want to completely bleep on

1407
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: the O line because Carson Wentz is he has to

1408
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: own some of his own aims.

1409
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: Ye.

1410
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: Who oh, No, I.

1411
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 15: Was watching the Chargers game because I watched literally I

1412
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 15: watched all seven Chargers games, because I cataloged week one

1413
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 15: through seven how many times they motioned and shift on

1414
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 15: third D.

1415
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was kind of crazy, this obsessed.

1416
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: I am obsessed. I was because I was.

1417
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 15: Just wanting to see And when I'm listening to Tom Brady,

1418
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 15: who was Tom Brady did one of their games and

1419
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 15: literally justin Herbert almost.

1420
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: Took a sack. He just threw the ball at the

1421
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: foot of the receiver.

1422
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 15: And Tom Brady said, that's the smartest play he made today. Yes,

1423
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 15: because instead of taking the sack, you throw it to receivers,

1424
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 15: not intentional grounding. You don't put it in harm's way,

1425
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 15: and you move on to third down and four versus

1426
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 15: third down and sixteen. And that's the one thing Carson

1427
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 15: Wentz doesn't do, like he doesn't have a quick trigger

1428
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 15: to say, I gotta get rid of the ball.

1429
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 11: Well, no, he tried, got to go, he tried.

1430
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: He tried to do that on that intentional grounding, that'll be.

1431
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 15: But even the one where he almost threw a freaking

1432
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 15: uh well, thank god it was his knee was down

1433
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 15: and it would have been a pass. Like, what are

1434
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 15: you doing just throwing at his feet right away? He's

1435
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,799
Speaker 15: standing right there. Why are you trying to go forward?

1436
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 15: And you can't run fasts anymore? You can't run anymore.

1437
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: But positive vibes. We might get to see J. J.

1438
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: McCarthy next week. Can I do I do dig that?

1439
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 2: Let's pause segment or two? Remaining a fan line including

1440
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 2: our local Chevy Dealers drive of the game.

1441
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 11: Very excited for that when we return.

1442
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: It's Vikings fan line on the fan and the fan

1443
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: radio network the Fan.

1444
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 30: Hey Spence here in Los Angeles. Two things, One person

1445
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 30: went seems to double pump a lot, as well as

1446
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 30: some McCarthy doing this too. Receivers just not open or

1447
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 30: are they just not seeing them?

1448
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:20,879
Speaker 27: Two?

1449
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 30: Can you let Chris Hockey. Know that traffic ging moving

1450
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 30: and it probably walked to Vegas faster than I can

1451
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 30: pick him up. All right, thanks a lot, guys, love

1452
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 30: what you do.

1453
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: Bye, Hey, cheers to use Spence. Maybe is Spence actually

1454
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: the guy that's supposed to give him a ride? Is Hockey?

1455
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 11: You driving the Vegas?

1456
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 31: Yeah?

1457
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: So so power trips in Los Angeles? I saw that

1458
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: tweet deb and I think I think after the game

1459
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: it's so far that he's jumping in somebody's car.

1460
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 11: Is like three and a half hours the Vegas four ish?

1461
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1462
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, something like that. I don't know the power trip.

1463
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: We do have an actor friend named Spencer that lives

1464
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: out there in LA so that might have been that

1465
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 2: might have been a legit guy. What if that's so

1466
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: that's the Spence. That might be the Spence's giving Hoey.

1467
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was giving Hawk harah. Okay, well, hey, no,

1468
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: that's super cool. Thanks for listening and calling in, Spence.

1469
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate the talkback. More talkbacks. Let's do this.

1470
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 29: Hey, guys, this is Scott. It's becoming clear. I guess

1471
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 29: at this point in the season that the composition of

1472
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 29: the roster and the plan for this year was something

1473
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 29: far beyond a pipe dream. And I know JJ McCarthy's

1474
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 29: gonna be starting our I think, so I fear for him.

1475
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 29: I'm not sold. He's the guy, but he is going

1476
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 29: to get demolished behind this offensive line. He probably won't

1477
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 29: last the season.

1478
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: Geez Okay, well that's that's very morbid and pessimistic. Who

1479
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: hurts you? But he has to, I mean well in

1480
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 2: fairness though the offensive line has its issues. I was

1481
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: talking with Ron during the break, so I'll just kind

1482
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: of put this out on the air with you, just

1483
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: kind of trying to figure out this derisol thing. And

1484
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: it's very concerning, man. I mean, he recovers from the injury,

1485
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: not quite ready to go week one. Totally get it,

1486
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: and you know it was a bad injury as it

1487
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 2: was right and it was actually at so far about

1488
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: a year ago. And but but he makes his way

1489
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: back and it's a pitch count happy to have him back.

1490
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: Coach is going to stick to the plan. We need

1491
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: a win in London against the Browns. They actually pull

1492
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: Christian Darosaw and they stick to the plan and they

1493
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: put justin school in. He performs against Miles Garrett for

1494
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: a player too, we find our way to victory going

1495
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: to the by plays all the snaps against Philly, and

1496
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: so just kind of the idea is is whatever recovery

1497
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: work can be done during the by, we're going to

1498
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: have a full force Christian Darosa out of the break.

1499
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: You get it. And then there's the is it even

1500
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: a regression? But now is it fully healthy? Is it

1501
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: a mental thing? And you know what is you know

1502
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: from a spectrum of pain right like I don't know

1503
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: if they I don't go to the hospital the doctor much.

1504
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: But you got like those little pain charts right like

1505
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: point to the smiley face zero to ten in terms

1506
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: of what your pain level is it pain from an

1507
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: injury versus paying from soreness as you continue to rebuild

1508
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: the strength around that knee. But Darra saw not being

1509
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: able to make the dance. You think if it was

1510
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: a Sunday game, maybe he plays the whole game. I'm

1511
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: less optimistic in that regard than you are. It's just

1512
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: it is kind of concerning with the in and out nature.

1513
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: If we are looking at finding continuity in the offensive line,

1514
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: if Justin School is going to be the guy on

1515
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: the left for eighty percent of the game, I need

1516
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: justin school going into the game thinking he's going to

1517
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: be the guy on the left for the entire game,

1518
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean, And so playing

1519
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: these will I won't die games. I don't think that's

1520
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 2: good and it just kind of worries me a bit. Yeah,

1521
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: I mean, but you saw the Chargers were in the

1522
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 2: same bit. You know, they had a lot of injured

1523
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, linemen coming to this game, and they tried

1524
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 2: to go out there too. One of their guys went out.

1525
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: He did the same thing on the sideline. Can you

1526
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: go back in?

1527
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 15: And he was making that grimace and face too, Like

1528
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 15: I don't think I can go back, Like it's only

1529
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 15: so much you can push a player, you know before,

1530
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 15: Like are you negligent if you send him out there

1531
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 15: and then he gets hurt even worse? Like are people

1532
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 15: pissed off because now christ and Derris was off for

1533
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 15: there's a season they lost thirty seven to ten.

1534
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, with them in or.

1535
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 15: Out, you have to trust that the players doing their

1536
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 15: best to try to get back on the field, and

1537
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 15: then the trainers are you know, doing everything they can

1538
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 15: and make sure he's mentally ready to go. But again,

1539
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 15: I think it's a short week. That's like because even

1540
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 15: coming off both their knees, him and O'Neil, they're swelling.

1541
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 15: That's involved, and so you'll see them wearing like a

1542
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 15: leg sleeve all week, you know, to kind of get

1543
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 15: the swelling out, push it down towards the ankle and

1544
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 15: an icy ankle and iced the leg.

1545
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: And blah blah. So I think that's part of the flight,

1546
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: you know, the flight out there, so short week, no

1547
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: rest flight out to LA long flight and then you

1548
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: got to get off and get the swelling out of

1549
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: your knee. I think that's part of it too.

1550
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 15: That's that swelling is less, it's more sorry, it's more

1551
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 15: of the pain than it is the actual knee. It's

1552
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 15: just it makes it tight. It makes it feel like

1553
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 15: you can't move as well. So that's that's part of it.

1554
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: What we're gonna do now and then we're gonna pause

1555
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: their final segment. I got another talk back and then

1556
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: we'll put a rap on this thing. Happy Friday morning

1557
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: to all of you, and thanks for hanging out with us.

1558
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: Thirty seven to ten to the final. Our locals Chevy dealers.

1559
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: We love our local Chevy dealers. And now it is

1560
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: time for our local Chevy dealers drive of the game.

1561
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: That sounded like this first.

1562
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: Two goal from the five, out of the shotgun Wentz Picks,

1563
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 4: a handoff closed to the end zone, caught touchdown Minnesota Vikings.

1564
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 11: It's Jordan Addison. The Vikings perfect in the red zone tonight.

1565
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 4: Ron.

1566
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: They were one of six a week ago. That's a problem.

1567
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: They were perfect in the red zone tonight. The problem

1568
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: is that was their only time in the red zone.

1569
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: That is your local Chevy dealer's drive of the game.

1570
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: Who was a doozy? It was a six play, twenty

1571
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: six yard drive. Ron, Who two and two minutes and

1572
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: twenty two seconds, six plays twenty six yards. I must

1573
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: remind people who was eighted. I believe by at least

1574
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: two penalties, potentially one on the field goal, and then

1575
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: I think there was an illegal contact on a fourth

1576
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: and goal play that extended it getting the touchdown on

1577
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: the ensuing first down from the four.

1578
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 4: Oh.

1579
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: But thank you to our local Chevy dealers. They're no joke.

1580
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: We love our local Chevy dealers. That was their drive

1581
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: of the game. I just apologize to our local Chevy dealers.

1582
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: I can't offer a better drive because Our offense was

1583
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: a disastrous mess this evening, but thirty seven to ten

1584
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: that all plays into it. That's why the Chargers were

1585
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: absolutely better in every single freaking category. Head the ball

1586
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: for almost forty minutes tonight. That's got to change. Everything's

1587
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: got to be better. About ten days from now, when

1588
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: the team is in Detroit. We're gonna pause one more

1589
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: time and put a rap on this thing as we

1590
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: do look ahead. It's Vikings fan line on the fan.

1591
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 23: Hey, this is Tony in Nashville. Hey, I agree with

1592
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 23: the Broseberg comments, We too, would I find inexcusable. Are

1593
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 23: the stupid penalties? Increase that penalty reach out, penalties on kickoffs, hallelujah,

1594
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 23: twelve men on the field. Yeah, those just show an

1595
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 23: undisciplined team and that is blamed on the coaching score

1596
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 23: of y'all.

1597
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: Scoll seasons not over. But the team's three and four,

1598
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: and I mean just by far, just by every possible metric.

1599
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: The worst game of the season that we've watched from

1600
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 2: our favorite football team took place earlier tonight at SOFI

1601
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 2: Stadium in Los Angeles, and the Chargers find their way

1602
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: to five and three, and the Vikings now three and

1603
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: four lopsided thirty seven to ten l twelve first downs

1604
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: total in the game that in comparison to the Chargers

1605
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: the twenty nine.

1606
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 11: I mean, just kind of running through some of these stats.

1607
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 21: Ron.

1608
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: As much as I love doing fan line with you, Ron,

1609
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 2: sometimes I will say it's masochistic in a way where

1610
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: in some ways I enjoy the losses more in terms

1611
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: of just just doing fan line. I want the team

1612
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: to go undefeated and win every single game, but in

1613
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: terms of like doing fan lines, sometimes the losses can

1614
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: be more entertaining because I just entertain it.

1615
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 11: I love the rooms. Man, I am one.

1616
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: I'm a forty year old child who loves his football team,

1617
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,879
Speaker 2: and I just love whether it's the talkbacks or the texts,

1618
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 2: just hearing what the fan base is feeling.

1619
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 11: I mean, Brosmer was seventy five percent completions today.

1620
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: But correct? Are you give me a break? With the

1621
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: three of eleven on third down? Into the game, Chargers

1622
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: were fourth in the NFL in third down percentage. They

1623
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 2: were nine to thirteen tonight, So they're just playing the script.

1624
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 11: Cool.

1625
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: Forty seven plays on offense for Kevin O'Connell's offense. Okay,

1626
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: that's that's that's not enough compared to seventy How about

1627
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: a buck sixty four of total yards on offense? I mean,

1628
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: just wow, that's terrible compared to four hundred plus by

1629
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 2: the Chargers.

1630
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 11: What else?

1631
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 2: Do we got eight more penalties tonight? That's cool, super undisciplined.

1632
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: The talkbacker hit it. Special teams penalties are ridiculous and unacceptable.

1633
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: We got Dallas Turner launching his head at somebody. He

1634
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: left the freaking turf you mentioned it. If this was

1635
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: a college game that would have been reviewed, he would

1636
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: have been kicked out of the game. You're gone one

1637
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 2: that just I mean, this is a kick in the pants.

1638
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

1639
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: They had the ball for nearly forty minutes, Ron, but

1640
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: we didn't lose the turnover battle. Silver linings, what what

1641
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: are you you're thinking about? Into the baby by that

1642
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 2: that's how we'll end it. What do you what are

1643
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: you thinking about? Into the baby by out of the

1644
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: bye on Monday and uh and.

1645
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 11: Push forward towards the Detroit game.

1646
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 15: Well, like you said, the third down bit like the

1647
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 15: third one, So the third and the first one third

1648
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 15: I think it was like third and eight or something.

1649
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 15: Justin Jefferson catches the deep ball sixteen yards yep or

1650
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 15: deep deep ish very next third down, third one, they

1651
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 15: throw the ball again and don't get it. So it's

1652
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 15: it's like you gotta you gotta take the easy like

1653
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 15: the nerdy stat would be like you're going to run

1654
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 15: the ball on third and one, knowing I'm going to

1655
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 15: run the ball on fourth and one, like I'm gonna push,

1656
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 15: push this thing till i can't do it anymore. And

1657
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 15: I that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, how can the

1658
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 15: Minnesota Vikings take these third down plays like you talked

1659
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 15: about and actually try to convert like it just does it?

1660
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 15: Like I'm looking at this third because I have the

1661
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 15: replays up now, and this third and eleven bit, I

1662
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 15: think that's the Carson Wentz like my arm is about

1663
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 15: to die or one of them because his shoulder got

1664
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 15: his jersey got pulled up or something in the pocket.

1665
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 15: But you know, second and eleven, same thing, play action.

1666
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: Pump pump. He didn't throw the ball, he comes.

1667
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 15: Out of it, and then he's just looking around like

1668
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 15: we're gonna throw the ball, and then he almost throws

1669
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 15: it to the feet of Jordan Natisy Like I'm just

1670
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 15: watching the play back over again.

1671
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: Yep. I just don't understand how you miss Jordan.

1672
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 15: Like in that instance right there, justin Herbert throws nabsolute

1673
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 15: strike and hits Jordanassen in the chest. Carson Wentz throws

1674
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 15: it into the dirt. He's grimacing now. I'm looking at

1675
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 15: his face. His arm clearly is hurting now because you

1676
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 15: can see that arm got grabbed. So this is when

1677
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 15: it started. It started on this second and eleven and

1678
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 15: Khalil Mack just absolutely blew through justin school, Like I know.

1679
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: Dude, It's just like I just got this texted and

1680
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: just appreciate again, appreciate everybody.

1681
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 11: Just Nordo period.

1682
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 2: You script the first play and Wentz damn near throws

1683
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: the lateral to Aaron Jones at a swing pass. I amen,

1684
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw that, Like,

1685
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: just you know, whether it's it's the script, just the

1686
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: inaccuracy that we saw a week ago, it crept in

1687
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: and maybe I you gotta be with me on this.

1688
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: The Carson Wentz experiment needs am I do you think

1689
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm going too far by.

1690
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 11: Saying it just needs to end?

1691
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: No, it does. It just needs to be done. And

1692
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: and and we're talking about JJ McCarthy and Max Brosmer.

1693
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 11: As your backup into the Detroit game.

1694
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: I just, I honestly believe that this this just needs

1695
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: to end, and that is the humane way to treat

1696
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, by the way, who is having to peel

1697
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: himself off the turf. It just has to be over

1698
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: and thank you for your service, Carson.

1699
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

1700
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: In some ways it feels like you were just the

1701
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb while we deal with with the kid QB

1702
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: trying to find out how to stay healthy in the NFL.

1703
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 11: But my goodness, it just needs to add.

1704
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 15: And I'll show you this after like we get off,

1705
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 15: so you can understand what.

1706
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm about to say.

1707
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 15: The other thing, though, is the long developing plays on

1708
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 15: third and eleven.

1709
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: Throw a nine yard.

1710
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 15: Route, throw a ten yard route, let the receiver run

1711
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 15: and get you like lab McConkey yards after catch. Oh

1712
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 15: my goodness, right, like they're getting the ball quick in

1713
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 15: hable to run the ball. The Vikings don't have a

1714
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 15: lot of unless it's just justin Jefferson making a ridiculous

1715
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 15: hall of Flame type of play and you're like this

1716
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 15: dude just got fifty yards on a one yard throw.

1717
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: That's it. Like there's no plays built for them to

1718
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: just catch the ball on third and something.

1719
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 15: It's like, we always got to go to the sticks.

1720
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 15: We always got to make it long developing and look

1721
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 15: at the offensive line. Like when I show you this

1722
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 15: picture from the back angle of this offensive line nord

1723
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 15: of the enzone, the end zone, you're gonna be like,

1724
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 15: what are we doing? Like there's two linemen that are

1725
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 15: absolutely blocking nobody.

1726
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: They're just looking off to the.

1727
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 15: Right, and there's two D like three D line about

1728
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 15: to kill their quarterback and they're just looking off to

1729
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 15: the right watching TJ.

1730
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Howkinson run nowhere. And then the two receivers to the left,

1731
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: there's a it's cover two the middle of the field, nordo. Yeah,

1732
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: I could have got open in the middle of the

1733
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: field on this one. Well, you're a red zone.

1734
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 15: I don't understand why you're not running some type of

1735
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 15: quick underneath slant in the mid and then let the

1736
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 15: receiver is Jordan Addison at that Let Jordan Aisen go

1737
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 15: run and get you fifteen yards. So that's my takeaway

1738
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 15: from this man, It's just you gotta look at this

1739
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 15: and get and get better development plays in these situations.

1740
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 2: You're the best roun. Thanks for doing this as you do.

1741
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: I will see you a week from Sunday, hopefully after

1742
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 2: and just I don't know someone. No, let's not even

1743
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 2: talk about wins or losses at that point. Kings lost

1744
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: tonight thirty seven ten, they're three and four. Power Trip

1745
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: live from Vegas A Chris Hockey I think he's in

1746
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: safe travels my brother and have a blast there in

1747
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: the morning with the boys nine to noon. Pa is

1748
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: going to join at a eleven o'clock. I got Chad

1749
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: Greenway out of the gates at nine and we'll do

1750
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 2: some goph football conversation Ryan Burns around ten, but certainly

1751
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: heavy on the Purple tomorrow during the feast. Thanks to Max,

1752
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: Thanks to Ron. Thank you for the calls, texts and talkbacks.

1753
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: The vikings are three and four. There will be more games.

1754
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Will we get to see JJ McCarthy play next week?

1755
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: I think we have to at some point. But thanks

1756
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: for hanging out with us. It's been the fan radio network.

1757
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 11: Cheers