1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose with you till ten o'clock. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning it. Good to have you along 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: with us. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Well, there has been blowback to Ellen DeGeneres's criticism of 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: what's going. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 3: On in Minneapolis. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: She came out of effectively social hiding since she left 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: the United States after the result of the twenty twenty 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: four elections. She couldn't handle it. Can't stand to be 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: in the United States while Trumps president needed to leave. Okay, 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: it's a little extreme, a little hysterical, but you're free 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: to go wherever you want to go. And she was 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: watching what's happening in Minneapolis, which is still going on. 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: There's going to be another press conference tomorrow. As the 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: demonstrations have changed a little bit, the tactics have changed. 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: I'll fill you in on the new tactic from the 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: gals inflannel up in Minneapolis. 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: They're still upset with Ice. 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: But Ellen is getting backlash for saying what she said 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: and not at least saying something nice about the immigration 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: and Customs enforcement officers that are also getting hurt. Here's 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: what she said. 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, I just wanted to say, I am so 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: sorry for what is happening in Minneapolis, in our country really, 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: but specifically in Minneapolis right now, because it's where I 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: shot my last stand up special and everybody there couldn't 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 4: have been more lovely. 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: So it is a little bit of an insight into 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: her narcissism that, of all things, she saw Minneapolis and decided, huh, Minneapolis, 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: I remember Minneapolis. I shot my last stand up special 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: there and include it in her social media post. 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: So what's going on with that? 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 5: Ellen? 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: Like, we didn't need to know that that's your motivation 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: because it triggered a memory to doing your last stand up. 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: Why aren't you just concerned about what's going on in Minneapolis? 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 6: All right? 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to nitpick, but you did get 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: in trouble over this. 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: So my thoughts and my prayers are going out to everyone, 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: and I'm proud of everyone who's protesting peacefully, and I 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: am sorry for anyone who has been hurt. 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 7: Just for protesting, for doing what you should be doing. 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Yet no thoughts and prayers to law enforcement that have 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: to deal with this. No comment on the Immigration and 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: Customs enforcement agent who was almost killed in demonstrations, right 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: he had like internal bleeding, got hit by a Honda pilot, 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: so she didn't say anything at all about the law 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: enforcement officers, and there's been some criticism of New York 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Times says she's facing blow back. Ellen makes rare political 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: statement with message about Renee Good and leaves out. Officer 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: Megan Kelly criticized her on her remarks, and social media 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: is exploding with comments about Ellen. 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 8: Ellen DeGeneres is facing backlash after posting her thoughts on 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 8: the ice protests. Her message sparked backlash on her Instagram, 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 8: with commenters slamming Generous for weighing in after she left 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 8: the US following President Trump's re election. 59 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four. 60 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: One broad Yeah, that's an interesting point. Right when you 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: leave the country because you are so upset about the 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: majority opinion for leadership in the country, should you then 63 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: be critiquing the way things are going from abroad? I mean, 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: you can. No one's saying she can't, but it seems odd. 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of this whole celebrity thing. 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't like who got elected. 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: I have to leave. 68 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: And you notice it's only when a Republican gets elected 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: that Democrats have to leave like Republicans stay here and 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: win back the White House, So it's kind of weak 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: and lame that you left. 72 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: In the first place. 73 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: Like, if you really believe that America should reflect your vision, 74 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: and you're Ellen DeGeneres and you have stature, you have 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: a voice, you have an audience, you have influence, and 76 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: you want America to be more like the way you 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: believe it should be, why wouldn't you stay and work 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 2: to if you want to get involved in politics. Here's 79 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: how politics works. The United States House of Representatives is 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: elected every two years. There are four hundred and thirty 81 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: five members of the House of Representatives. They each represent 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy thousand people in four hundred and 83 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: thirty five congressional districts. It takes two hundred and eighteen 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: to get the majority. If you have the majority, you 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: become Speaker of the House and you run all the committees. 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: So every two years you have an opportunity to take 87 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: over the House of Representatives. The presidency is elected every 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: four years and we will have another election in twenty 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: twenty eight. And the Senate's elected every six years, and 90 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: there are two senators for every state, which means there 91 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: are one hundred senators and you just need fifty fifty 92 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: senators and you win because the vice president breaks the tie. 93 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: So there you go. There's your political science degree right there. 94 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: You now know more than half the faculty in the 95 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: Department of Political Science at usc and the entire faculty 96 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: at the Department of Political Science at UCLA. But it's 97 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: like really easy, Like America is really easy. If you 98 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: want to change things in America at the federal level, 99 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: it's really easy. State gets a little more complicated. Local 100 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: is a disaster, which is why Karen Bass is a disaster. 101 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: But federal stuff pretty easy. 102 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: So the criticism for me is, if you don't like 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: what's going on in Minneapolis, go to Minneapolis and write 104 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: your congresswoman re election. 105 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 8: In twenty twenty four, one wrote I'm so sorry too. 106 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 8: Why don't these people stay home and let Ice do 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 8: the job? We as a country voted for Another commented 108 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 8: not your country any longer, while another rote as a Minnesotan, 109 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 8: thank you, it's rough here. 110 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why it's so rough to be in Minnesota. 111 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what is so difficult. You have a 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: right to demonstrate, you have a right to protest, you 113 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: don't have a right to interfere. 114 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: Why is that lost upon you? Do they not. 115 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: Teach eighth grade social studies in Minnesota. I'm constantly told 116 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: what an education focused state that is. They're so into 117 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: public schools. The governors used to be a public school teacher. 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: Everybody's about schools in Minnesota. Yet nobody that graduated from 119 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: any of the public schools in the Minneapolis Unified School 120 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: District understands you cannot get in the way of law enforcement. 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Here's what you do, and you don't have to freeze 122 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: out there in the cold. 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 3: You don't need a whistle. 124 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: You don't need to go on any website and follow 125 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: any of these liberal white women in flannel and their advice. 126 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: All you have to do if you don't like immigration 127 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: law is go find yourself a federal building in Minneapolis. 128 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: Don't go to a state don't go to the state house, 129 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: and don't go to city hall. It's got to be 130 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: a federal building, an institution like a courthouse that represents 131 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: the federal government in your hometown. Look for a building 132 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: with an American flagover it. Then make yourself a sign 133 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: and stand on the sidewalk and scream all day abolish ICE, 134 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: defund ICE, get ICE out of Minneapolis. That's what you 135 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: can do. That is, in fact, the only thing you 136 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: can do. What you can do is try and block 137 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: the lawful enforcement of immigration law. Why is this so 138 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: difficult to understand for these and they're getting into all 139 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: kinds of trouble and it's freezing out there, all right, 140 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: So when we come back, they are pivoting their tactics. 141 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: They decided, well, I mean there's. 142 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: Still a pain for the ICE agents, and they're still 143 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: very annoying. They're not consequential. There are thousands of arrests 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: going on in Minneapolis. I mean, Minneapolis is getting clean 145 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: of illegals so fast it will be America's safetyst. 146 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: City, like by the end of the bump. 147 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: That's the irony for all the you know, all the 148 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: crying and whining about immigration and customs enforcement. They're overstepping 149 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: in their protests, have caused immigration officers to, well, it's 150 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: a triple They've tripled the amount of ICE agents in Minneapolis, 151 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: which means they will be triple the amount of deportations, 152 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: which means they will be no illegals in Minneapolis. 153 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: You know, in no time. 154 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm actually amazed they were that many who knew that 155 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: Indian Minneapolis was a high bed. 156 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: For these illegals. 157 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: Which makes me think. 158 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: That when it's time for ICE to come back to 159 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, we're gonna need way more ICE agents. But 160 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: when we come back, they have a new strategy. It's 161 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: called the reverse boycott. 162 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: Have you heard of this? 163 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you all about it next, Lou Penrose on 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 165 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. 166 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose with you till ten o'clock. Ellen DeGeneres getting 167 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: backlash or commenting about what's going down in Minneapolis, a 168 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: lot of people saying, why can't she say something nice 169 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: about law enforcement if she's truly empathetic and concern and 170 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: as compassion. The protesters are are are getting apprehended for 171 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: getting in the way, and sometimes they slip and fall 172 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: and hit their head on the pavement. 173 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: That hurts. 174 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: But the ICE agents also are in harm's way and 175 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: they're getting battered and people are throwing snowballs at them, 176 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: and one guy almost got killed. They got into bleeding. 177 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. The Ice agents are there 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: to do their job. They have to go and chase 179 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: the illegals. Right, The protesters don't have to be there, 180 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: the ICE agents do. So there's a little imbalance in 181 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: Ellen's compassion. 182 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 9: Hey, lou, what Ellen degenerate has to say means absolutely nothing. 183 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 9: I worked with probably a half done Tomorrow talk show 184 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 9: over in the course of ten years or something, and 185 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 9: they all said what an evil, evil person she was. 186 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 9: So I don't know it firsthand, but I heard it 187 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 9: from enough people that convinced me. Anyways, I don't know 188 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 9: what country she moved to. All I know is that 189 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 9: the property values there have gone down. Have a nice Tuesday. 190 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. You know. 191 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: They say she made a rare political comment. I don't 192 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: know if it's rare or not, but it wasn't complete. 193 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of other Republican right wing bag on 194 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: the air, the. 195 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: Worst fillin host ever. 196 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 7: Are you permanent now at seven o'clock slot? Let me 197 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 7: know so I can start working more overtime so I 198 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 7: can listen to you. 199 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. Make sure they give you time 200 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: and a half. All right, So the strategy has changed 201 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: now the gals and Plaid are not out blowing whistles 202 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: and trying to block the ice vehicles in Minneapolis. What 203 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: they decided to do is go to target to do 204 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: a reverse boycott. It's a little hard to hear because 205 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: it's busy in the target there, but here they are. 206 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 10: We are at from the target, any Dinah. We've got 207 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 10: it from about seventy people in line here. 208 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 7: Everybody bought salt and they're returning it. 209 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 10: Why because we are asking that target step up as 210 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 10: a as a corporation. 211 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 7: Of moral courage. 212 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 11: All right. 213 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: So I don't know if you could hear it or not. 214 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: They're in a dina I have never heard of a Dinah, Minnesota, 215 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: but the name of that town is as unattractive as 216 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: the people in this demonstration. So they're there and they're 217 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: buying salt, and then they would they like, then there's 218 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: like seventy people and they're all buying salt, like just 219 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: a you know, canister of Morton salt. And then they 220 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: go through the line and then they go back into 221 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: target with the receipt and the salt and they return it. 222 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: And they do this over and over and over and 223 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: over and over again for the sole purpose of annoying 224 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: people and slowing down Target's ability to sell and make money. 225 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: You see this going on, you think the hell with it, 226 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: I'll come back tomorrow. 227 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: Right. 228 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: So they're trying to hurt Target's business. 229 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of criticism of this tactic because 230 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: Target is a major employer in Minnesota. 231 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: It's headquartered in Minneapolis. 232 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: So the people that are working at Target work and 233 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: live in Minnesota, and the people are shopping that you're 234 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: inconveniencing are your neighbors. So there's been that criticism. Here's 235 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: the explanation of what they want Target to do. 236 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 10: Ice is being leveraging Target's silence. They are objecting Target employees, 237 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 10: they are staging in Target parking lots. We are asking Target, 238 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 10: whose whole brand has been built on serving the communities 239 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 10: in which they. 240 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 12: Are, to step up, speak out, use the corporate. 241 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Power that they have, Use the corporate power that they have. 242 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: So she says that Ice is leveraging target silence. What 243 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: hippie gobbledegook like lady get with the times that tied 244 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: I crap don't fly no more. So she is saying that, well, 245 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: Target has a loud voice. Target is high profile here, 246 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: and we want Target to step up and help us fight? 247 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: What exactly should Target do? Do you know what Target does? 248 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: Target sells children's clothing, bath towels, toys, and stationary And 249 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: some targets have like a CVS in the back, like 250 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: a pharmacy. That's pretty much it. Like if you get 251 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: you're buying a television, you're gonna go to a costco. 252 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: You're not gonna Target. 253 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: And that's it. 254 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: Like they're not in the business of social justice. Why 255 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: must they be involved? Why do you want them to 256 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: be involved? Would you be happy if they were involved? 257 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: And put out a press relief press release and said, 258 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: we support law enforcement right if there is shoplifting its target, 259 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: we want the cops to come. If one of our 260 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: store employees is assaulted in the parking lot, we want 261 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: the cops to come. If one of our store managers 262 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: is making a night deposit drop and gets hit over 263 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: the head by a robber, we want the police to come. 264 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: So we love law enforcement and therefore leave the law 265 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: enforcement guys alone. 266 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: Like would you be happy with that comment? So you 267 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: really don't want Target to comment? 268 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Do you I should. 269 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: Hire a bunch of fat people and die their hair blue, 270 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: give them a nose ring, in a Subaru and they 271 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: can drive right to the riots, and the illegals will 272 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: jump right in their car and they can drive off 273 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: from them. 274 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. 275 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 13: Hey, Lou, you remember that time when Target was doing 276 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 13: everything for the left. Anybody can use any bathroom. They 277 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 13: had to bisexual clothing right in the front, and all 278 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 13: that other crazy nonsense. You know, you never fall in 279 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 13: love with the demon because you could never a piece 280 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 13: the demon. And once you start going off to their rails, 281 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 13: they do crazy things like that. 282 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: You have a go in, Luke. 283 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I do remember when Target was 284 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: pretty woke. It was like the early days of the 285 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Biden administration when like trans children were a big deal 286 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: and Target felt the need to make clothes for trans children. 287 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: And I don't care like that. I think that is 288 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: absolutely silly. But if there's a market, and there's a 289 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: nut enough parents that believe that their child is trans 290 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: or that want to support trends and get on the 291 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: whole trans bandwagon, and there's a market for it, why not. 292 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: It does not bother me at all. I'm not a boycotter. 293 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm a boycotting Target because they have a couple of 294 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: tank tops for ten year olds with pro trands saying 295 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: on it that's commerce. 296 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: If it sells, it sells. If it doesn't sell. 297 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: It'll be discounted and they won't renew the buyer, right, 298 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: So that doesn't bother me. But you're right. Target was 299 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: pretty progressive, took all kinds of chances, and now the 300 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: same people that want stores to do that are now 301 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: they're asking people to boycott Target. Here is the explanation 302 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: as to what the strategy is all about. 303 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 12: For the rest of y'all, if you're not familiar with 304 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 12: this form of protest, you go buy one expensive item 305 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 12: scraper at home depot or a container of salt. 306 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 7: We're melting ice a container of salt. 307 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: How did you catch that? So they did the reverse boycott. 308 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: They tried it out at home depot, and everybody bought 309 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: an ice scraper, which doesn't really work nationally because they 310 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: don't sell ice scrapers in Los Angeles. So people got confused, 311 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: and what they did is buy a three inch putty 312 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: knife and. 313 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: Pretended it was a nice scraper. 314 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: You do have three inch putty knives at home depots 315 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, but here in Minneapolis, they were buying salt, 316 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: you see, because salt melts ice. 317 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: Isn't that cute? 318 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 12: We're melting ice a container of salt at Target and 319 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 12: you have dozens and dozens and dozens of people do this, 320 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 12: and then you all get in line and you return everything. 321 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 7: You gum up the works. 322 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: That's the goal, to gum up the works, to slow 323 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: everything down, to make it so annoying to be at 324 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: Target while this reverse boycott is going on, that you 325 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: leave the store and not spend your money, and the 326 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: employees get annoyed and call in sick the next day 327 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: because they don't want to be there when the salt 328 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: protest is going on. That's the plan. But the blowback 329 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: here and there's been some strong criticism. The people that 330 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: you're harming are people that work at Target. 331 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? 332 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: Well, the people that organize these things address that and 333 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: I'll share it with you next. Lou Penrose on KFI 334 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 335 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand, AM six. 336 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: Forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Lou Penrose with 337 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 2: you till ten o'clock. Good to have you along with us. 338 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: The tactics have changed in Minneapolis. They're now going into 339 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: the Target and disrupting business inside the Target. 340 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 12: I want to draw your attention to a tactic called 341 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 12: shop and return protesting. 342 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 7: I want to show you a clip from Minnesota and 343 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 7: then come back and talk about why this is. 344 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 12: Such an important tactic to have in our arsenal of 345 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 12: non violent direct actions and how it's actually successful. I 346 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 12: had some people in my comments on Facebook earlier who 347 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 12: were like, isn't this performative? 348 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 11: Right? 349 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: Isn't it performative? 350 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: And doesn't it hurt the people that work at Target 351 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: that live in Minneapolis. 352 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 11: Lou Minneapolis is home of Target's headquarters. They've been there 353 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 11: for years and years, forty to fifty maybe longer, and 354 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 11: they were just a little local company and then they 355 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 11: went national. Still headquartered there. 356 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're headquartered there, which means not only do people 357 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: in Minnesota work at the Target store, but they also 358 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: work at the headquarters. 359 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: Ooh, those people in Dona, whatever, Minnesota doing that stuff 360 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 5: at Target need a damn job. 361 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 14: I'm sure they're all on welfare. 362 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: They definitely have far too much time on their hand. 363 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: Gad get rid of this sloop. 364 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 9: Henrose guy. Get rid of him. 365 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: Please. 366 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Lou. 367 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 15: If I was one of those poor clerks at Target 368 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 15: in Minnesota, I would spend probably about thirty minutes per 369 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 15: return just drag in my feet, slow, slow, slow. 370 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. 371 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: You have to wonder what the return people are dealing with, Like, 372 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: what is the conversation, Like, the people that work at 373 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Target are the ones bearing the brunt of your demonstration. Well, 374 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: the person that's organizing this says, no, that's not true. 375 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 2: That's not true. We're not harming the people that work 376 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: at Target. 377 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I get it, but this is kind of silly. 378 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 12: It feels highly performative and really just punishes the workers. 379 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: That's right, it just punishes the workers, she says. 380 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 12: No, this is a classic corporate talking point, by the way, 381 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 12: that these kind of actions just punish the employees. 382 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 7: No. 383 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 12: No, the corporation is punishing their employees. The corporation took 384 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 12: away their DEI policy. Target is actively harming their employees 385 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 12: on a daily basis. 386 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 7: So don't give me. 387 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 3: That, all right, I will give you that. 388 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that DEI was in this too. 389 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: I thought you were just mad at Ice for conducting 390 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: lawful removal of illegals. Now you're bringing a couple of 391 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: things together. So you're still sore at Target over stopping 392 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: reverse discrimination in employment and advancement opportunities. Girls, you're gonna 393 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: have to get like coordinated here. 394 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: You can't. You can't do everything right if you If you. 395 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 2: Want to fall in love with illegals and decide that 396 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: the ICE agents are your ex boyfriends and treat them 397 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: like that, then that's going to be your narrative. You 398 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: can't bring in DEI too. That's a whole separate fight. 399 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: Notice that the cat ladies and the No Kings marches, 400 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: they're not into DEI. That ship is sale. So you 401 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: got to coordinate a little bit. I mean, what what 402 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: do you got going on here? 403 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: But I appreciate it, Lou. 404 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 15: If I was one of those poor clerks at Target 405 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 15: in Minnesota, I would spend probably about thirty minutes per return. 406 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 16: Yeah, Target, Home Depot, Walmart all have separate return places 407 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 16: in their store. And if so, which I believe, I'm correct, 408 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 16: how are these people holding up other people trying to 409 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 16: buy things if they're in a whole separate place in 410 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 16: the store returning items. 411 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: Love your show over and. 412 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 3: Out, over and out. I don't know. 413 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: I saw this happen at home depot like once and 414 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: it made an entire news cycle. People buying the ice 415 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: scrapers and then returning it. And now they're in Minneapolis 416 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: buying assault and returning it. I don't expect this to 417 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: last very long. It's very boring, and I don't know 418 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: that it's all that satisfying. 419 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: So there's only one of two choices you can make. 420 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: As I said, so many of these people have no 421 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: understanding of the First Amendment. They have no understanding of 422 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: how to demonstrate in protest. They don't know what is 423 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: okay and not okay. They have no understanding of the law, 424 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: which is why so many of them are getting tackled 425 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: by ICE agents and put in handcuffs, and Ellen DeGeneres 426 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: feels bad for them. What do you think the ICE 427 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: agents feel like? How do you think they really want 428 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: to spend their day tackling an oversized flannel girl. They 429 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: have enough to do worrying about capturing the illegals. 430 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: It's a tough job. 431 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: Being an ICE agent, and the ICE agents have to 432 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: be there. That's their job. They get up to go 433 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: catch the bad guys and on the way. They got 434 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: to deal with a bunch of these more like just 435 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: complete maniacs. And now and now the store manager of 436 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Target's got to deal with these maniacs. Somebody's got to 437 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: get hold of these women and explain to them how 438 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: it works. Everything ICE is doing is completely legal. It 439 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: is illegal to be in Minneapolis if you're in the 440 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: country illegally. When the Ice fan comes, that means a 441 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: judge has signed a removal warrant and has handed it 442 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: to the ICE agent to go find this guy and 443 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: throw them in the back of the Ice band. And 444 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: if there's a bunch of other illegals in the car too, 445 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: well grab. 446 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: Them too, because you're there already. And that's what they do. 447 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: And so not only do they have to do that job, 448 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: but they've got to argue with you people really getting boring. 449 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: Gotta tell you. 450 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just have a question nobody's talking about. And 451 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 5: correct me if I'm wrong. You're a poly sygact. The 452 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: Constitution doesn't allow us to protest. The Constitution allows us 453 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: to assemble peacefully, but not violence. And all the craft 454 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 5: that goes out in the streets on these Ice interference 455 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 5: peaceful assembly, that's what we're allowed. Let me know what 456 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 5: you think. 457 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're wrong. 458 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: I think that the First Amendment does protect our right, 459 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: doesn't give us a right. It protects government from taking 460 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: an way all right to assemble and to have our 461 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: grievances addressed by our government. So it is absolutely right 462 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: and proper for you to go and get a post 463 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: aboard and write ice at of Minneapolis or ice out 464 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: of la or defund ice and stand in public and chant. 465 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: You can do it. It's idiotic, but you can do it. 466 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: Also if you really have skin in the game, and 467 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: you really believe that this is the most horrible thing 468 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: in the world, that illegals are being deported, and you 469 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: love illegals more than you love Americans, then you can 470 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: take it one step further and engage in nonviolent civil disobedience. 471 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: But you got to do it the way mohandas K 472 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Gandhi did it. You've got to break the law, not 473 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: be violent, and then go to jail. So I mean, 474 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: if you really like it's buying salt and then returning it, 475 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: then lay down in the middle of the street and 476 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: have the police arrest you and you'll get sighted and 477 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: released and then go right back and do it again, 478 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: like as soon as you make bail or as soon 479 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: as you pay your fine, go right back to the 480 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: same corner and lay down, or go out in front 481 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: of the ICE building or the Federal building where ICE 482 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: is headquartered in Minneapolis and lay down on the sidewalk 483 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: and then do it over and over and over again 484 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: until the judge says, all right, well, I don't know 485 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: what to do with you, So you're gonna go to 486 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: jail for thirty days and then on the thirty first day, 487 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: get out and go lay down in the driveway again 488 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: out in front of the ICE Like if you really. 489 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: If this is your this is your Joan of Arc moment, 490 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: then go be mohandas k Gandhi. See they don't. 491 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: They don't because that would they wouldn't get enough clicks, right, 492 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: they wouldn't be anybody filming them. They wouldn't get to 493 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: go on Instagram and TikTok and be all famous and 494 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: all that and a bag of chips. 495 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: It's really lame. It's really boring. 496 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: And now they're annoying the people that work at the target. 497 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 5: Let them go in there and mess around in target. 498 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 5: That means they're not out messing around with the ICE 499 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: agents getting the criminals off the street. 500 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: It's a win win. 501 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: It is kind of a win because all this commotion 502 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: has caused Border Patrol to and the Department of Homeland 503 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: Security to increase the presence of officers in Minneapolis, which 504 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: means three times the raid, which means three times the apprehensions, 505 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: which means Minneapolis is going to be illegal free in 506 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: no time. So the strategy of the gals implaid may 507 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: have backfired on them. Loup Penrose on KFI AM six 508 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. KFI AM six 509 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Loup Penrose with 510 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: you till ten o'clock. President Trump had more comments about 511 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 2: Western Europe and NATO. This Greenland thing has opened up 512 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: a larger discussion about the relationship, the friendship, the connection 513 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: between the United States and Europe. And I think it's 514 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: a healthy time to reevaluate what we need to do 515 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: for Western Europe and what they can do for us. 516 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 6: So these people will just stand in line and buy 517 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: them return the same thing the entire day. Wow, I 518 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 6: guess that's a way to kill an afternoon when you 519 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 6: don't have a job or anything meaningful to do. But 520 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 6: how does this stop the money they're making from their 521 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 6: online sales. 522 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: You're right, it doesn't. 523 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 9: Complete idiots, Those people are in Minieapolis, tark. 524 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 14: Come on, yeah, with no warrant, you break down somebody's door, 525 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 14: you go interrupt them in the shower. You're nice enough 526 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 14: to let them put some boxer shorts on, and you 527 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 14: drag them out into the cold. You drive them around 528 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 14: for two hours until you figure out, oh, they're a citizen. 529 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not true. Why do you feel the need 530 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: to perpetuate this sad sap narrative? You know if you know. 531 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: Anything about this. 532 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: So the story the caller's referring to is the viral 533 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: photograph of the Minneapolis grandpa in the blanket, and they're. 534 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: Like, look at what Ice is doing. This is gastopo tactics. 535 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: They're dragging an old man out and he's freezing out. 536 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: He's in his boxers and crocs, and it's so amazing 537 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: because you don't have to search hard to find the truth. 538 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: I know that on ms now they do that. They 539 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: just show you the picture and the outrage of the 540 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: old man. But there is another website you can go 541 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: to if you want. It's called the Associated Press AP, 542 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: and while not a conservative organization, you can count on 543 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: AP to get the entire story. Now, they may lead 544 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: with the bleeding heartline of this old man that didn't 545 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: have any clothes on. It was called out baba baboo. 546 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: But the reality is ICE did have a warrant. No, 547 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: that's not true. They had two, two warrants for convicted 548 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: sex offenders in the country illegally that were tied. 549 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: To that address. So what happens. 550 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: You go to that address and you knock on the 551 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: door and nobody answers or they answer, and they won't 552 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: let you in. 553 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: Guess what you're allowed to go in? 554 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: And then the person that's in the house refuses to 555 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: identify himself, produce identification of any kind, and refuses to 556 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: come out to the car so that they can. 557 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: Do a check on him. 558 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: Now, keep in mind they have a warrant for the arrest. 559 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: They have two warrants for two convicted sex offenders in 560 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: the country illegally at that address. The person in that 561 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: house has to be presumed to either harbor these sex 562 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: offenders or know a thing or two about them. 563 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: So you would think if that guy was complete. 564 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about sex offenders. I don't know 565 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: anything about illegals. I don't know what's going on. I'm 566 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: just trying to take a shower. You would think he 567 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: would say, wow, my address of my house came up 568 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: on the Department of Homeland Security radar for sex offenders. 569 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, officers, sit down, let's have a cup 570 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: of coffee, break out your paperwork, let's see what you got. 571 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't want my. 572 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Address associated with illegals in sex offender land, right, wouldn't 573 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: you do that if they came to your house and 574 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: they said, excuse. 575 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: Me, Uh, can we talk to you for a second. Yeah, 576 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: what's up? 577 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Well, we have a warrant for the arrest of two 578 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: individuals that are tied to this address. Do you know 579 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: either of these people? I'd be like, oh, wow, no, 580 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: I don't. Can we ask who you are? Absolutely, officer, 581 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: my goodness, that's horrible. Let me help you catch them now. 582 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: The guy didn't do it. I don't want to give 583 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: you my information. I don't want to give you my identification. 584 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to go into the car and do 585 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: a retina scan. 586 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to even put on my clothes. 587 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: And they said, all right, well, guess what, since we're 588 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: here investigating, we're. 589 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: Going to take you into questioning. 590 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: And we can do that since it's just frankly unbelievable 591 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: that you know nothing about this. 592 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: So we're gonna see what you know. 593 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 11: Now. 594 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: You have a right to remain silent you're a US citizen, 595 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I can't ask you questions. 596 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: And they asked them questions. 597 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: And then they said, all and I don't know what 598 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: if the Iceation's got what they needed, or if you know, 599 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: illegals tend to put down wrong addresses too, because illegals 600 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: do lie. I don't know if you know that, but 601 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: they tend to lie a lot. They really lie to landlords, 602 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: they lie to property managers, they lied to the irs, 603 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: they lied to their employers, they lied to the lady 604 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: at the counter at elementary school. And they go to 605 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: enroll their illegal children and pretend that the children are 606 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: residents of Los Angeles. Illegals lie a lot, So it 607 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: would not be unusual for it illegal to put down 608 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: this guy's address. But if that was your house, you'd 609 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: want to know about it, and you'd want to get 610 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: as straightened out, and you would do everything in your 611 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: power to help the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent. 612 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: Get the guys, wouldn't you. 613 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: Now everybody that's a liberal white woman or married to 614 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: one is running around saying, how awful, this is terrible. 615 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: This guy wasn't wearing any clothes. I mean, listen to yourself. 616 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: Listen to yourself. 617 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 14: Yeah, with no warrant, you break down somebody's door, you 618 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 14: go interrupt them in the shower. You're nice enough to 619 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 14: let them put some boxer shorts on, and you drag 620 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 14: him out into the cold. You drive him around for 621 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 14: two hours until you figure out, oh, they're a citizen. 622 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: You really think that's what happened. I mean, are you 623 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: so warped that you think that's what actually happened. The 624 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: ICE agents were just out there joy riding and decided 625 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: to find some older fell by the way. 626 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: He wasn't that old. 627 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: He fit the description of the person on the warrant. 628 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: So it sounds like pretty good police work to me. 629 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: I like, how Yeah, they drove him around and then 630 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 2: let him go. Now they didn't they questioned him, got 631 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: everything they needed, or maybe he didn't cooperate with a 632 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: lone of questioning that is your constitutional right as well. 633 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: But I would imagine that if you, you know, helped 634 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 2: get the child sex offenders that are in the country 635 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 2: legally or at least gave them every bit of information, 636 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: you know, like anybody else living in the house. Do 637 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: you know the people that used to live in the house. 638 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: Can we have the name of your landlord? Like that 639 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: might help us too. Any other time anybody's con your 640 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: house and say, hey, we have a warrant for somebody 641 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: that lives in this house. Like if you like helped 642 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: and answered some of those questions, maybe that ride would 643 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: have been shorter than an hour. But I appreciate your call, 644 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: all right, when we come back. So it is exactly 645 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: one year to the day that Trump was was sworn in. 646 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: He was elected president in November. Then they have something 647 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: called the transition team, but you really don't do anything except, 648 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, get your team together. And I think Trump 649 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: knew exactly who he wanted. So January twenty was the day, 650 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: and it feels longer, and I know that it's a 651 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: If you hate Trump, it feels chaotic to you. 652 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: If you love Trump, you. 653 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Wish that days were years, like you wish the day 654 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: lasted longer. 655 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: Uh, And here we are. 656 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: It's exactly a year, and a lot of things have 657 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: taken place. And whether you love what this administration is 658 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: doing or you hate what this administration is doing, you 659 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: have to admit there have been some real highlights. There's 660 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: been some real fantastic press conferences. There's been some statements 661 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: that are just out of this world. And I went 662 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: back over the year of some of the highlights of 663 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: this administration and pulled some of his statements that are just, 664 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, their exemplary. Now they are almost exclusively unpresidential. 665 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: But I think that's what for the people that love him, 666 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: that's what makes them love him. His candid, frankness about 667 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: what's on his mind. And the Europe thing came up again. 668 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: And now the Europeans, or at least in Western Europe, 669 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: they're starting to push back. They are feeling a little 670 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: strong and they want to put Trump in his place, 671 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: and Trump is pushing back, and the whole NATO thing 672 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: has come up again, and I think it's a health Look, 673 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's not the nineteen fifties. 674 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: The Soviet Union is not invading us. The eighties movies 675 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: are over. 676 00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: Rocky Beat Drago and Red Dawn is not happening, so 677 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: and in Red Dawn, the Europeans are not even on 678 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: our side, so you can't count on NATO if Red 679 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: Dawn happens. But like, none of that is going to happen. 680 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: There is no Soviet Union, there's no Soviet threat, there's 681 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: not going to be World War three, and we don't 682 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: need to hold on to these alliances, like should we 683 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: decide to cool it with Western Europe militarily for a 684 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: little while while we attend to our own affairs here 685 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: in the United States. It's not like some Eastern European 686 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: country is gonna steamroll into Poland, So we need to 687 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: get over that and move into the twenty first century. 688 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to twenty twenty six Lou Penrose on KFI AM 689 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 2: six forty live everywhere, on the iHeartRadio app 690 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty on demand,