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Speaker 1: Boston's bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on

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Speaker 2: Right, joining me now as she always does at this

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Speaker 2: day in time, Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place.

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Speaker 2: Grace Woto full disclosure, my wonderful wife, and yes I

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Speaker 2: married way up. Grace. I know you're a huge supporter

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Speaker 2: of the Save Act like me. You want it passed.

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Speaker 2: You want it pass now are you shocked at Thune's

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Speaker 2: political maneuvering and now at his obvious play to get

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Speaker 2: the Save Act to be sunk? He wants it to

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Speaker 2: go down in flames? And your according to you, why

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Speaker 2: why is stuone so determined to stab the president, maga

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Speaker 2: and the country in the back. What's your theory?

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Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, thank you so much for having me on Listen.

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Speaker 3: It is very clear that the Republicans in both the

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Speaker 3: Senate and Congress, many of them, have been too faced

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Speaker 3: ever since this president was elected. They are either trying

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Speaker 3: to stall, do nothing, or make every excuse possible to

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Speaker 3: give him as few domestic wins as possible. So I

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Speaker 3: completely support what President Trump wants to do on this.

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Speaker 3: And it was even last year that I said, Hey,

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Speaker 3: if we need to get rid of the filibuster, so

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Speaker 3: be it. Literally, the fate of our country is at

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Speaker 3: stake with this piece of legislation, and so I think

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Speaker 3: we need to save the Constitution. I know it's ironic,

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Speaker 3: but the only way to actually save the Constitution going

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Speaker 3: forward is to do this right now, because if we

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Speaker 3: don't have fair, legitimate elections, the Democrats are going to

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Speaker 3: peace by peace destroy the Constitution. So this is the

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Speaker 3: most important domestic legislation that the President has on the docket.

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Speaker 3: I agree with everything he's doing and saying about it.

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Speaker 3: That is how urgent the matter is. And Tune is

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Speaker 3: a trader, There's no question about it. He is working

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Speaker 3: in collaboration with the Rhinos to make sure that the

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Speaker 3: America First Agenda does not get implemented.

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Speaker 2: Grace, I want to play a cut and I want

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Speaker 2: to get your reaction. He went. President Trump went on

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Speaker 2: truth social He threw down the gauntlet to Thune, and

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Speaker 2: then he repeated it at a Republican member's issues conference

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Speaker 2: in Florida. And here's what he told. And the cameras

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Speaker 2: were there, But here's what he told Republican members of Congress.

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Speaker 2: Roll cut one, Mike, if.

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Speaker 4: You could, if I could ask the people in this

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Speaker 4: room to go for the gold. We're going for the goal.

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Speaker 4: We're not going for the bronze. We're not going to

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Speaker 4: sign a watered down version like has been sent up there.

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Speaker 4: Let's go for the gold and let's just not accept

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Speaker 4: anything else. I'll tell you what I'm I'm willing to

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Speaker 4: just sort of say, I'm not going to sign anything

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Speaker 4: until this has approved. I really am. But that's how

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Speaker 4: bad it is. And we're going to have to push

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Speaker 4: the Senate because you have four or five senators that

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Speaker 4: are I don't know, four or five Republican senators. You'll

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Speaker 4: have to explain them to me. But we're not going

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Speaker 4: to get into that now.

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Speaker 2: They're traders. I'll explain it to you in one word, traders.

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Speaker 2: But Grace, my question to you is, you know he

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Speaker 2: said it on truth Social he now said it out

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Speaker 2: of speech. I'm not going to sign any other bill.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you pass it. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: veto it until you give me the Save Act. So

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Speaker 2: he's now I don't know how much more explicit he

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Speaker 2: can make it to Thune, you know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's Basically, it's as close to a papal bull as

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Speaker 2: a president can issue past this act, I don't sign

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Speaker 2: anything else, get it done, and soon will not comply.

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Speaker 2: What does Trump need to do or is there anything

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Speaker 2: he can do at this point? What say you, grace?

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Speaker 3: Then? Right now he's going to give us a vote.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be voted on right and as

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Speaker 3: far as we know at this point, it will not

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Speaker 3: go through. So what the president can do now is

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Speaker 3: try to negotiate feverishly with every single senator that he

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Speaker 3: to get us across that finish line. So I would

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Speaker 3: say to the administration it should be all hands on

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Speaker 3: about what hypocrites they are. You know how they've been

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Speaker 3: going on and on about January six What a disaster,

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Speaker 3: What a disaster? Well, if you want to prevent a

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Speaker 3: January sixth for all time going forward, what you do

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Speaker 3: is you make sure that nobody questions the results of elections,

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Speaker 3: and so this would e is everybody's mind. Once you

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Speaker 3: is a legitimate victory. That would be good for everybody,

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Speaker 3: That would be good for any Democrat who might be

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Speaker 3: about elections. But once again, they too are caught as

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Speaker 3: being a bunch of hypocrites. They do not care to

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Speaker 2: Is it because and they're pretty much admitting it, because

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Speaker 2: they engage in rampant, massive voter fraud that if they

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Speaker 2: didn't have mail in ballots, and if they didn't have

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Speaker 2: illegals and dead people voting, they would be losing election

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Speaker 2: after election. In other words, is are the Democrats now

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Speaker 2: basically admitting to the country and the world they're a

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Speaker 2: party that depends on election corruption and rampant fraud to win.

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Speaker 3: There's no question about it. And one of the great

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Speaker 3: failures of Pam BONDI so far. Think about if we

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Speaker 3: could have this discussion right now with lots of evidence

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Speaker 3: accumulated and lots of proof about everything that we're saying,

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Speaker 3: and prosecutions about this. I mean, who has been held

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Speaker 3: accountable for all of the election fraud that we know

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Speaker 3: takes place in this country. Nobody. But let's say we

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Speaker 3: had a lot of evidence about it that would even

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Speaker 3: strengthen the case and put a lot more pressure on

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Speaker 3: every member of Congress to vote for this. We could

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Speaker 3: shame everybody into doing this. And so this is another

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Speaker 3: reason that of all the people that should go. I know,

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Speaker 3: we've been saying it for over a year. It's Pam

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Speaker 3: Bondi here. We would have had a very important tool,

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Speaker 3: a very important piece of you know, a proof that

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Speaker 3: would really sway as many people as we possibly can. So, Jeff, listen,

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Speaker 3: there's no question about it. That's the only way that

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Speaker 3: Democrats win. They are out of touch on the whole

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Speaker 3: with what the public wants. And they know it too.

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Speaker 3: When they do an autopsy of why they lose, they

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Speaker 3: frequently say, well, we've got to change who exactly it

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Speaker 3: is we're talking to, because we're no longer talking to

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Speaker 3: the people that we need to keep supporting us.

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Speaker 2: Grace, We've got about less than two minutes left, and

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Speaker 2: I want to open it up just a little bit

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Speaker 2: to a philosophical discussion because this comes right into it.

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Speaker 2: This plays right into it. You said to me recently

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Speaker 2: at home. You know, Jeff, I'm getting demoralized. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter who you vote for. The policies stay the same,

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Speaker 2: the system stays the same. Are we facing now a

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Speaker 2: political crisis, almost a crisis of democracy that here we

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Speaker 2: want something that's gotten almost ninety percent support, and yet

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Speaker 2: the corrupt elites in Washington won't let it pass. What

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Speaker 2: say you?

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Speaker 3: In the president's first term, in retrospect, we all said

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Speaker 3: he should have prosecuted Hillary Clinton right away and gone

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Speaker 3: after the deep state right away, because by not doing

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Speaker 3: that then then they were able to group together and

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Speaker 3: sabotage his first term. Well, we're seeing the second, the

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Speaker 3: second term sort of a repeat because the deep state

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Speaker 3: is obviously directing the president's foreign policy. They got Lindsey

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Speaker 3: Graham in the president's ear. This is now a neo

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Speaker 3: conservative globalist foreign policy. And the upshot is that it's

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Speaker 3: dividing MAGA. This is a psychological deep state operation to

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Speaker 3: divide MAGA. And yes, it seems that there are such entrenched,

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Speaker 3: powerful forces in DC that unless you go after them

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Speaker 3: directly and get them out, they sabotage the America First agenda.

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Speaker 3: So the President understood that going in. He said, I

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Speaker 3: need to clean the swamp. The thing is, if you

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Speaker 3: don't get rid of the swamp, the swamp swamps you,

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Speaker 3: and we keep seeing that over and over again.

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Speaker 2: Grace. I have one minute left, literally one minute, John Thoon.

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Speaker 2: Does the president now need the call for him to

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Speaker 2: step down? A Senate majority leader? Does soon have to go?

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Speaker 3: You know, it may come down to that. It may

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Speaker 3: come down to that. If he could just get somebody

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Speaker 3: else that would do what he says, we would have

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Speaker 3: a chance. So I think he's got to do whatever

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Speaker 3: you like, basically lose any nuclear option that you have

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Speaker 3: to get this done. That is how important the Save

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Speaker 3: Act is to the future of this country.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Grace. Putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto Grace

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Speaker 2: as always dynamite stuff. And we will talk to you

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Speaker 2: next Wednesday at nine o'clock here on the Kooner Report.

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