1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Tonight, will a lack of government data impact what happens 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: to your portfolio by the end of the year. We're 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: going to investigate that. Right now, you're listening to Simply 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Money presented by all Worth Financial on Bob's sponseller along 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: with Brian James. Well, as we all know, the government 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: is back open, but there might be some economic data 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: that the Federal Reserve will possibly never see, data that 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: it uses to determine where to set interest rates. All 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Worth Chief investment Officer Andy Stout joins us tonight. Andy, 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: thanks as always for being with us. And Andy, is 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: it possible that we may never find out what the 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: October inflation rate in October unemployment rate even were And 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: if that's the case, how big of a deal is that? 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Here? 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Moving forward as we get into Thanksgiving and quickly approaching 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty five. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bob, wouldn't you look at what's been going on? 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: I mean, the government has been shut down. Workers have 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: not you know, been there and putting all of you know, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: the obvious ripple effects aside. What that means for economists 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: is that there weren't employees there to actually collect the data. 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: They look at this data, and when they collected they 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: collected during certain periods. So if no one's at work 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: during those periods where they would literally like call up 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: and talk to people and reach out to individuals asking 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: them if they have a job, well, they can't go 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: back in time and say hey, did you have a 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: job when they would be normally. 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Collecting this data. 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: I mean they could possibly, you know, reach out and 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: say hey, did you have a job during this period 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: of time, but it's going to be a little bit 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: more flawed than what it would normally be. And there 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: is certainly some speculation in the White House even put 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: this out last week saying that we may never get. 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: The October unemployment rate. 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: So how big of a deal is that, Well, I mean, 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: right around right now, we're around a four point three 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: percent unemployment rate, And when we get the November data, 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: which in theory we should get eventually, and if there's 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: not a big gap between the September and November data 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: in terms of like a spread of what it was 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: in September versus what it was in November, then it's 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: probably not a huge deal in all honesty, but it 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: does make things a little bit more challenging for the 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: Federal Reserve, because I mean, they want this data to 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: be able to say, hey, where is the labor market. 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 3: We've been hearing about these cracks. We're seeing a few 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: things here and there, but we would like to know 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: this actual official data. And if they don't have it, 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: it certainly makes their job more challenging. 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 4: Well, I would say it makes their job just about impossible, 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: because what are you going to make a decision off 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: of if you don't know what you're shooting at. I'm 55 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: picturing Andy, what are these charts going to look like, 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: you know, say two or three years from now. I'm 57 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: looking at a line graph and there's a big question 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: mark right in the middle of it because we just 59 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: didn't bother to collect the data. Well anyway, so it 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: looks like we had some switching to the markets. We 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: had a little bit of bumping this on Thursday and 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: kind of felt like it came out of nowhere. Did 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: that have anything to do with this lack of visiBel 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: to what's happening, you know, under the surface? 65 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 5: Can you can you talk about that a little bit? 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, when when you look at what's been going on 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: over the past week or so and driving markets, I mean, 68 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 3: first off. 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: There was a lot of. 70 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: Volatility between the opening and closing of the week, but 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: when you looked at it when it was all said done, 72 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: there really wasn't too much moving movement. I know you 73 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: probably saw some eye popping numbers, you know, Dow down 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: eight hundred points and things like that, But did you 75 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: know the doll was actually up for the week. It 76 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: was up point four percent last week in spite of 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: all this volatility. So was the S and P five hundred. 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: It was up like a tenth of a percent. Now, 79 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: the Nasdaq fell a little bit, and there's some AI 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: concerns there and we'll talk about that in a minute. 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: Then small caps were off a little bit more. But 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: when we look at what's driving the market really over 83 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: the past week, I would say it's a couple of things. 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: One is the. 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: Fact that, yeah, we may not have some of this data. 86 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: The second is what would the FED actually be doing 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: into some and how would that data inform them? 89 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: And three, what's going. 90 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: On in the world of AI and sticking with you 91 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: know the numbers one and two on that in terms 92 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: of the data, in terms of the Federal Reserve, Yeah, 93 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: that is having an impact. I mean, I want to 94 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: rewind back to the fed's last meeting at the end 95 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: of October. Heading into that meeting, the market was pricing 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: in a one hundred percent chance of a or almost 97 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: one hundred percent chance of another quarter point rate cut 98 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: at the FED December meeting. After last week, after some 99 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: comments from a lot of Federal Reserve officials, we're now 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: sitting at a forty one percent chance of a rate 101 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: cut in December. So we went from about one hundred 102 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: down to forty one percent, And that's certainly been a 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: part of that, you know, volatility, because the market had 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: expected aurey cut and now the FED saying, yay, let's 105 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: let's pull back here a little bit. First off, we 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: don't have the data, we don't know where we're at, 107 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: and we're still worried about inflation. And this backpedaling has 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: certainly added to that volatility that we saw last week. 109 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: Andy, as recently as you correct me if I'm wrong, 110 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like seven to ten days ago, the probability 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: of a FED rate cut in December was around ninety 112 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: five percent. What moved that percentage down to forty Is 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: it concerns about the labor market. Is it concerns about 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: not getting that data that we already you know, talked about, 115 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: or is there something else going out there going on 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: out there that's spooking the market. I understand the volatility 117 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: on Thursday around you know, people questioning the valuation of 118 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: AI stocks, which, as you said, we'll get into it 119 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: a minute, but I want to stick with FED policy 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: right now. What caused that, you know, chance of a 121 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: FED rate cut in December to drop all the way 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: to forty percent really quickly? 123 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: Well, to be. 124 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: Fair, it was it really started to change on October 125 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: twenty nine, that was the fed's last meeting. That's when 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: it was around that ninety five to one hundred percent. 127 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: And then what happened was FED Shared's Rompal came out 128 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: even before taking Q and A basically told orders a 129 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: doll of aall Street that a December rate cut is 130 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: not a four gone conclusion. He usually doesn't come out 131 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: that bluntly with that sort of detail that's usually uncovered 132 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: during the Q and A. But for him to front 133 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: run that, that was pretty aggressive for the Federal reserve standpoint, 134 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: So that spook markets. That immediately caused essentially the chances 135 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: of a December rate cut to go from that ninety 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: five percent to about sixty sixty five percent, so a 137 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: quick drop there. That was on October twenty ninth, and 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: then just last week that's when we've seen more Federal 139 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: Reserve officials come out. 140 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: And when you look at. 141 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: It, basically it was on it was on Thursday when 142 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: that started to change. We started to drift from that 143 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: sixty five percent chance of a rate cut down to 144 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 3: fifty percent by the end of Thursday, and by the 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: end of Friday. You know, that's when we were right 146 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: around this forty one forty two percent chance of a 147 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: rate cut in December. So now what looked like a 148 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: coin better than a coin flips chance for a cut 149 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: in December is now a little bit worse than a 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: coin flips chance of having a rate cut. So it 151 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: was really the Federal Reserve officials pushing back. And when 152 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: you look at the actual voting from that October meeting, 153 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 3: it was really interesting because you had the sense, which 154 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: has become a little bit more normal lately, meaning that 155 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: some voters didn't want to do what the committee as 156 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: a whole wanted to do, and it was what the 157 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: most interesting thing though, was is that there were sins 158 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: in both directions. Someone wanted a fifty basis point cut 159 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: or a half a percent. Another person wanted to do 160 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: nothing at all, and what they ended up doing was 161 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: a quarter point rate cut. 162 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 2: Now, the question is what. 163 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: Does the future old when you look at the you know, 164 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: the FED fund rates and in terms of you know, 165 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: what the rate cuts may or may not be, and 166 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: it's certainly, you know, definitely been a lot less aggressive 167 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: in terms of future rate cuts. And I think what's 168 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: really going to matter though it's not necessarily the committee 169 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: composition today, but what's that committee composition going to look 170 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: like six seven months from now? We have someone who 171 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: just announced they're going to let their term expire in February. 172 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: We know there's. 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: Another outstanding position with another governor who's been under some 174 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: scrutiny regarding some mortgages. And then, more importantly than all 175 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: of that FED sharge, your own pal will be stepping 176 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: down in the middle of next year. That allows President 177 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: Trump to really nominate some Federal Reserve members who are 178 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: more aligned with where he wants the economy to go 179 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: in terms of interest rates. So I would be thinking 180 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: about the FED policy and like two. 181 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: Different regimes regime. 182 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: DAY, which is the one today and for the next 183 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: few months, and as it you know, starts to slowly 184 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: migrate into something different than to Regime B, which is 185 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: probably going to be more dubvish than what we're used. 186 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: To any The whole reason we do this, of course, 187 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: with interest rate cuts, one of the things that we need, 188 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 4: we want to do with the. 189 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 5: Federal Reserve is a control inflation. So TERR. 190 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: Powell was not super excited about the first rate cut. 191 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: He seemed to at least been somewhat bullied into it 192 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: when we kind of shifted gears here several months ago. 193 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: Now that we're a little into this, do you do 194 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: you feel like there's any risk of really reigniting inflation. 195 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what they're worried about, because when you 196 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: look at inflation in general, I mean, obviously, you go 197 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: back a couple of years, the CPI or consumer Price 198 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Index was around nine percent. I mean, that was just 199 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: obviously terrible on many fronts, right, and we quickly got. 200 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Back down to more normal readings. 201 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: But we've been stuck around three percent for really the. 202 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: Past like year year and a half. 203 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: And what the Federal Reserve looks at and First of all, 204 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: they do look at a slightly different inflation measure and 205 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: PCE core PCE actually, which is broader, but that's also 206 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: right around three percent set two point nine percent right now. 207 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: What they target, though, is a two percent inflation rate, 208 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: and we've been at this three percent level for a 209 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: year or so. It's this last leg of inflation that 210 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: the Federal Reserve has not been able to be and 211 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: that's what's giving them pause because they've had this restrictive 212 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: policy and there hasn't been any movement, and that's what 213 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: has them worried. And Chair Pale, he's I mean, like 214 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: it or not, he's worried about his legacy. He doesn't 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: not want to be remembered as the Chair who caved 216 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: because he was afraid of something and then all of 217 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: a sudden reignited inflation. He's more worried about, I would say, 218 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: keeping inflation under control so he doesn't go out as 219 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: the person who brought back raging inflation. 220 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: All right, Switching gears here to corporate earnings. There's some 221 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: major companies reporting earnings this week, and Andy, obviously those 222 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: results are likely going to move this market one way 223 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: or the other. Please talk about that what you see 224 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: coming up this week in terms of earnings, and then 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: is there anything else keeping you up at night? 226 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 5: Right now? 227 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: That's the question, Brian and I always ask you on 228 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Monday because you're always on top of a whole bunch 229 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: of data and you keep that beautiful recession scorecard for 230 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: us in the background. So we want to know what 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: you think of earnings and announcements this week and then 232 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: anything else keeping you up at night as we venture 233 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: into another week here. 234 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so far for earning system overall, I mean, 235 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: earning season is mostly done. There are some big names 236 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: this week, as you mentioned there, Bob, but we are about, 237 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, ninety two percent of the way through earning season, 238 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: and overall it's been very solid, with almost eighty two 239 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: percent of companies reporting better than expected profits in the 240 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: year of a year growth rate sitting almost at fifteen percent, 241 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: which is about double what Wall Street expected heading into 242 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: earning season. 243 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: So by and large, it's been a very good earning season. 244 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: That's really helped to you know, keep markets growing, you know, 245 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: as they have it and when you look at what's 246 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: on the horizon, though, yeah, we got some big names. 247 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: Tomorrow is where it really starts to kick off. You 248 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: got Home deep O tomorrow, then you have Target and 249 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Lows on Wednesday, and then you have on Thursday Walmart. 250 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: So you got some big retailers and that's really going 251 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: to show us how the consumer is handling everything going on. 252 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: And then probably one of the tiny little. 253 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: Out there is Navidia. Navidia is like the AI darling. 254 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: And when you look at what's been going on with 255 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: a market and the ballatility out there, it's really driven 256 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: by recently last week, a lot of it is AI valuations. 257 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: How are companies suspending what's their infrastructure on AI? And 258 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: so Navidia that is the AI company. I mean you 259 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: might think about, you know, other things that move markets, 260 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: but Navidia is the one that probably matters the most 261 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: right now. So we'll get some we'll get some good 262 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: guidance coming out on Thursday from them. 263 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: All right, sounds great? Hey, thanks as always for joining 264 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: us tonight. Andy. Coming out next, we've got the new 265 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: retirement account contribution limits for twenty twenty six and why 266 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: your advisor should be your first call before you put 267 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: your hands on any new payroll forms. You're listening to 268 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: simply money presented by all Worth Financial on fifty five KRC, 269 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: the talk station you're listening to Simply Money, presented by 270 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: all Worth Financial, Umbop sponsler along with Brian James. If 271 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: you can't listen to Simply Money live every night, subscribe 272 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: and get our daily podcasts. Just search Simply Money on 273 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: the iHeart app or wherever you find your podcast. Straight 274 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: ahead of six forty three, How to spot unnecessary duplication 275 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: in your portfolio, how to possibly rethink dividend reinvestments, and 276 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: just overall make sure your money's truly working as hard 277 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: as it can for you. All right, if you're sort 278 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: of paying attention to the show right now, and Brian 279 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: this includes you want we want you to lock in 280 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: here because we just got the new contribution limits for 281 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six for retirement accounts. Let's start with tax 282 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: deferred accounts. In twenty twenty six, you can save up 283 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: to twenty four thousan five hundred dollars in four to 284 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: one k's four or three b's fifty seven plans and 285 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: the federal government's Thrift Savings plan. That's an increase of 286 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars over and above what you could put 287 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: away pre tax in twenty twenty five, and if you 288 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: are between fifty to fifty nine years old, you can 289 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: add an additional eight thousand dollars to that. It's called 290 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: the catch up contribution. So up to thirty two thousand, 291 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars total for the folks between age fifty 292 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: and fifty nine heading into twenty twenty six. 293 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: Brian, and let's yeah, let's not forget there's a new 294 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: secret catch up here for a little while. As part 295 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: of the One Big Beautiful Bill, if you're between sixty 296 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: and sixty three years old, you get to put an 297 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: extra eleven two hundred and fifty on top of all 298 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: the extra things that Bob just mentioned. And so if 299 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: you're sixty four and older, you go back to the 300 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: fifty and younger boat, because that makes all the sense 301 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: in the world. Of course, remember these the deadline for 302 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: these contributions is always December thirty. First, this is the 303 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: stuff you're doing through payroll. This is your four h 304 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: one case. You got to go through your payroll department. 305 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: You're not writing a check, so you want to do it, 306 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: you have to do. You need to go to your 307 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: payroll people and log in your website or do whatever 308 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: you want, but it's got to go through your paycheck. 309 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: And one final thought, remember these limits apply across all 310 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: four oh one ks four h three b's that you've had. 311 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: If you had multiple jobs during the year, you are 312 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: the only one who knows how much has flowed into 313 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: these accounts. You will need to make sure you don't 314 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: go over these limits or you'll have a little bit 315 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: of a messic cleanup by tax time. Not the end 316 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: of the world, but definitely an unnecessary pain in the 317 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: rear end. 318 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: All right, In terms of traditional iras, both regular and 319 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: roth people putting money into regular iras and rath iras well, 320 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: you can contribute up to seven five hundred dollars in 321 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. That's an increase from seven thousand dollars 322 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: maximum in twenty twenty five, so you get an extra 323 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: five hundred bucks to put away, and if you're age 324 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: fifty or older, you get to contribute an additional one thousand, 325 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. And those contribution limits are the same 326 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: for traditional iras and rath iras. Keep in mind that 327 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: for iras there is a phase out, especially for wroth iras, 328 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: and we'll go through these numbers it's a lot of numbers, 329 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: but the phase out range for WROTH iras increase to 330 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: between one hundred and fifty three thousand and one hundred 331 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: and sixty eight thousand dollars for a single or head 332 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: of household filing status. That's up a little bit, you know, 333 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: three or four thousand dollars higher than it was in 334 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Remember, if you start to get phased out, 335 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: you can still make partial WROTH contributions. So just know 336 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: that the the you know, these contribution limits are going 337 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: up a little bit, and make sure to take full 338 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: advantage of that heading into twenty twenty six. 339 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: That's right. 340 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: So and we've got you've got limits of course to 341 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: worry about with regard to the twenty twenty six year too. 342 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: And for traditional iras, right, there's there's always limits, and 343 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: the limits on a traditional IRA or whether you can deduct, 344 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: not whether you can contribute with the WROTH. You you 345 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: either can contribute or you cannot. So for twenty twenty six, 346 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: if you're looking to take that pre tax contribution and 347 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: you're a single taxpayer, if you have a four to 348 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: oh one K, if you have a retirement plan through 349 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 4: your workplace, that's going to limit you to eighty one 350 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: to ninety one thousand dollars. Merely married filing joint phases 351 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: out completely up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, 352 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: and there are some other limits there too, so just 353 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: be paying attention to those items because you don't want 354 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: to have to undo things by around tax time. That's 355 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: why you have all the way until tax time to 356 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: make a prior year contribution because a lot of people 357 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: don't know what their income is. They're modified adjusted gross 358 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 4: income until they've actually done their taxes, so you might 359 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: wait and take a breath, make sure that you can 360 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: get away with it. 361 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: If you do find yourself, you know, in a situation 362 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: where you earn too much money and you get phased 363 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: out from these traditional contributions, remember you can still do 364 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: the you know, backdoor wroth contributions or in some cases, 365 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: if your plan allows it, these megabackdoor wroth conversions. Something 366 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: to check with your HR department if your plan allows 367 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: for that. Heading into twenty twenty six, and then there 368 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: are a hand full of new tax breaks from the 369 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: tax legislation passed earlier this year, otherwise known as the 370 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: One Big, Beautiful bill that will impact tip income over time, 371 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: and state and local tax bills, and those all have 372 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: income thresholds to come with them as well. Once your 373 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: income gets above a certain level, those deductions either disappear 374 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: entirely or get phased out. And that also dovetails with 375 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: how Social Security is taxed, and then the senior deduction 376 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: that impacts the taxability of your Social Security. So be 377 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: sure to review all of this stuff carefully with your advisor, 378 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: your financial advisor, your fiduciary advisor, your CPA heading into 379 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and make sure you're taking a holistic 380 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: view at everything here based on what your personal situation is, 381 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: what your income needs are, and just make sure that 382 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: you can be as tax efficient as possible heading into 383 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. 384 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think some good things to remember too is 385 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: you are allowed if you have some cash laying around 386 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: and you've got the ability to pay your bills, there's 387 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: nothing wrong with putting one hundred percent of your paycheck 388 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: into your foura. Okay, you can do that and it 389 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: will not interfere with your healthcare insurance premiums and. 390 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: All that kind of stuff. You can do that. 391 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: So if that's something it will be advantageous for you. 392 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: Go ahead and pull that trigger. 393 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: Why not? Here's the all Worth advice. 394 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: See the increase limits as a tool, not just a target. 395 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Use it in concert and in coordination with your overall 396 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: broad strategy. Coming up next, the questions high net worth 397 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: investors should ask to make sure their portfolio is built 398 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: for the next ten years, not the last ten. You're 399 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: listening to Simply Money, presented by all Worth Financial on 400 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the talk station. You're listening to Simply 401 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: Money presented by all Worth Financial. I'm Bob spon Seller 402 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: along with Brian James. You and I both know and 403 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: have worked with and talk to a bunch of successful investors, 404 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: folks who've built multimillion dollar portfolios over the years, and 405 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: from time to time, you know, we find what's what's 406 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: really interesting is a lot of these portfolios are still structured. 407 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: For what worked. 408 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Five, ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. They're still heavy. For example, 409 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: in US large cap you know, tech stocks still relying 410 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: on those same mutual funds that can really become very 411 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: tax inefficient at this point, or ETFs that help them 412 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: build their wealth. But markets do change, and we've seen 413 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: some of that change even happen this year during twenty 414 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: twenty five. Let's break this down into some questions folks 415 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: should be asking, because the next decade could look nothing 416 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: like the last one, and we see this happen, you know, 417 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: over the course of time, all right over. 418 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: You know, you and I have been doing this. 419 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: I think we've got sixty to seventy years between us 420 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: of experience guiding people through this, So we've seen some stuff. 421 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: But I think some of the things to look at 422 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 4: is are you overweight anywhere? The winners of the last 423 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: cycle tend to kind of linger in portfolios, and allowing 424 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: your portfolio to stay overweighted in these positions, you can 425 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: let it run for a little while, but eventually that 426 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: becomes like betting on the team that won last year's 427 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: World Series solely because that happened, to bet on them 428 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: again this year. Things do move around, as Bob just mentioned. 429 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: So if you have a huge position in Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, 430 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: or Nvidia is probably the big one. Now, that's been 431 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: phenomenal for you, But how many portfolios are way overweighted 432 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: to those names right now? And how many are susceptible 433 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 4: to the first hiccup that any of those actually have. 434 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: And another one that I think is really really prevalent 435 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: right now is international stocks. And I've mentioned this before, 436 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: but as we review portfolios, the international positions are really 437 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 4: running away and extending their lead this year over and 438 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: above the American stocks. This is a catalyst provided by 439 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: our current political situation where we've decided to basically play 440 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: a little more hardball with other countries, and rather than 441 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 4: play balls, some of them are building relationships between themselves 442 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 4: and working around the United States. So the market is 443 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 4: recognizing that that's an opportunity. If you don't have international stocks, 444 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: because there was a big movement toward the heck, with 445 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: everything else, all I need is the S and P 446 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: five hundred, then you are currently missing the boat. And 447 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and say that I think that 448 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: relationship is going to stick around for a while. We've 449 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: been so proactive with these tariffs and all these things. 450 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: Countries are finding ways to work between themselves and work 451 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: around the United States. This is not ringing the bell 452 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 4: for alarm. I'm just saying you better have an allocation 453 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: in there for it. 454 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, Brian, you miss you mentioned the S and P 455 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: five hundred, and you know the winners of the past. 456 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, regardless of the political situation, 457 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: right now, you know, just sitting on an S and 458 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: P five hundred index fund and thinking that's going to 459 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: get you where you need to go over the next 460 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: ten years. I mean, the S and P five hundred 461 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: now is well over thirty five percent almost forty percent 462 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: weighted to those magnificent seven tech stocks. And we talk 463 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: about this off and on this show. And as you said, 464 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you know, sell all your big cab 465 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: tech stocks. But if you're just sitting there, you know, 466 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: in an index fund, you are already way overweighted, you know, 467 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: from a volatility standpoint, to these large cap tech stocks. 468 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: And it is a good time as we enter into 469 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six to take a look at your portfolio, 470 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: see what your allocation is to certain sectors of the 471 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: market in the US and to your point, whether you 472 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: have any exposure overseas at all, and if you can 473 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: do so, especially on a tax efficient basis, and there's 474 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: ways to do that. You know, now's a good time 475 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: to kind of rebalance, reallocate, and kind of stress tests 476 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: and volatility proof to some extent your portfolio. Here so 477 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: you don't get whipsawed if we do see a pullback 478 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: or sell off in some of these big names that 479 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: have really made headlines over the last you know, three four, 480 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: five years. 481 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And another point to that making sure that you've 482 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: got all the you know, your ducks in a row 483 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: here is interest rates. So for a long time, you know, 484 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: many many investors who have a significant amount of wealth, 485 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: now did that during an environment where nobody cared about 486 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: interest rates because they were. 487 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 5: On the floor. 488 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: And all it meant was I could get really cheap 489 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: debt for my business or for my mortgage. But beyond that, 490 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: it really kind of robbed the ability of interest rate 491 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: based investments to really give me much that I cared about. 492 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 4: So then now that's not really the case. We're off 493 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 4: the mat with interest rates. They're back to a somewhat 494 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: respectable area where you can actually generate some yield out 495 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: of it. So the important question to ask is what 496 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: interest rate world are you built for? Because we were 497 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: in a rising rate environment, we're kind of back into 498 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: a declining rate environment. That means you're going to want 499 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: to pay attention to the duration of your bonds. You're 500 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: going to want to pay attention to the credit quality 501 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: those kinds of things. How do these companies borrow? What 502 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 4: sectors are you in? It really changes the attractiveness of 503 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: cash and CDs versus equities because now we might want 504 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: those things for a long time we spent you know, 505 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 4: kind of leaning away from that because of where where 506 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 4: interest rates actually were. 507 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 5: So that's something else to. 508 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Well when speaking of bonds and just credit based investments, 509 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, in general. You know what we're talking about 510 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: too here is take a look at your credit risk 511 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: exposure in the duration of your bonds, and let's stick 512 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: with credit for a little bit. You know, let's face it, 513 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: when yields go down, interest rates go down, people invariably 514 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: will chase yield, and oftentimes they will embed more credit 515 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: risk into their portfolio than they might have imagined because 516 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: they really, you know, it's very hard to manage. You 517 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: think managing an individual portfolio of stocks is hard, it 518 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: is very difficult to manage both interest rate and movement 519 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: and credit quality of bonds on an individual basis. So 520 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: you've got to have somebody take a look at this 521 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: and just make sure there's not more credit risk embedded 522 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: into your bond or fixed income portfolio than you might 523 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: have bargained for, because Brian, I can remember, you know, 524 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: points in time historically where people just went to sleep 525 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: on some of these even short term I yield bond 526 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: funds and really got their you know, rear in handed 527 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: to them if the economy declined at all, because these 528 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: bond funds can get whacked almost as much as the 529 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: stock market in a recession. 530 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. 531 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: And again, you know some of the other things to 532 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: pivot a little bit here, make sure you're paying attention 533 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: to your tax and estate planning tools. 534 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 5: Are you ready for that next decade? 535 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 4: So we're gonna we're going to imagine that the tax 536 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: code is going to change just a bit over the 537 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: next ten years. Decent chance that tax rates could rise. 538 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: You need a portfolio that's going to anticipate these things. 539 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: And so that means thinking ahead, be thinking about roth 540 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 4: conversions so that you can protect yourself from those require 541 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: minimum distributions. You're not avoiding taxation, you're pulling it forward 542 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: so that you can spread yourself over time into a 543 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 4: higher than current but still lower overall tax bracket as 544 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: opposed to getting hit by the tax truck when you're 545 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 4: age seventy three or seventy five. 546 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, what we're really trying to call out here right 547 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: now is just your portfolio. You know. Don't treat it 548 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: like a crock pot. Don't just set it and forget 549 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: it for a decade, because markets do evolve, polished shift 550 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: your life changes, make sure your investments are keeping up. 551 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: And this is where a good fiduciary advisor can make 552 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: all the difference, because a good advisor is thinking about 553 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: the next ten years rather than the last ten years, 554 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: so you don't have to navigate all of this potential 555 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: volatility alone. Here's the all Worth advice. Build your portfolio 556 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: for the road ahead, not just the one that you 557 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: recently traveled. Coming up next, from overlapping ETFs to dividend 558 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: reinvestments to planning, from maybe even Florida, the real world 559 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: portfolio blind spots you might not even realize you have. 560 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Simply Money presented by all Worth Financial 561 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: on fifty five KRC the talk station. You're listening to 562 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Simply Money presented by Allworth Financial on Bob Sponseller along 563 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: with Brian James. 564 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: If you have a financial question you'd. 565 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: Like for us to answer, there is a red button 566 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: you can click while you're listening to the show. Oh, 567 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: if you're listening to the show on the iHeart app, 568 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: simply record your question and it will come straight to us. 569 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: All right, Brian Mark and Kinwood leads us off tonight. 570 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: He says, we've always used dollar cost averaging, but with 571 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: markets at all time highs, are there situations where investing 572 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: a lump sum actually makes more sense? 573 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, there can be, and there's This is really a 574 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 4: good You're not choosing the right path, You're choosing the 575 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: path that makes you the most comfortable. But history says 576 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: that lump sum investing usually wins about seventy five percent 577 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 4: of the time. Markets are higher twelve months after any 578 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: random day, even when they're already at all time highs. 579 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: Think of this anytime over the past three years. If 580 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: you face this question, the answer was throw the lump in. 581 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: It wasn't dollar cost average. Because the market has gone 582 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: up mostly steadily for three straight years. 583 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: All time highs aren't all that rare. 584 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: One out of every fifteen trading days is a new 585 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: record high. So waiting for that dip often more often 586 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: than that, means you're actually missing returns, not avoiding any 587 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: risk that said, dollar cost averaging isn't a bad thing. 588 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: It's a behavioral tool. 589 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: It's good if it will really really hurt you to 590 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: have gone in just before the market took a dip. 591 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: Think back in April when we panicked about tariffs initially. 592 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: You know, then that would have you know what, you 593 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: might have seen your lump sum get invested in and 594 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: then drop ten fifteen percent maybe more pretty quickly. 595 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: It did recover quickly. 596 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: But if that's the kind of thing that you don't 597 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: react to that you can't stay home about, then dollar 598 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: cost averaging will protect you from from throwing it all 599 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: at once and having to go through that now mathematically financially, 600 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 4: over the long run, it really doesn't make much difference. 601 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: I usually encourage my clients to go with a lump 602 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: sum unless unless we just really think that emotionally that's 603 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: not going to work. Should it should be in the 604 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 4: rare instance that it actually is going to go wrong. 605 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 4: Market goes up, not down, though, So don't don't don't 606 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: overthink it all right, Moving on to Jeff in Newtown, 607 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: Jeff says his portfolio looks balanced, but he keeps hearing 608 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: about hidden leverage in certain bonds and alternative fund So, Bob, 609 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 4: how do you uncover risk that's not obvious from the surface. 610 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, this is how i'd answered this question. I mean, 611 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: when you get into the whole alternative space, especially in 612 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: the credit space, and you talked about bond funds, alternative funds. 613 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: I already mentioned, you know, in the prior segment about 614 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: high yield corporate bond funds, when you mentioned hidden leverage, 615 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Oftentimes that can mean there are some option strategies embedded 616 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: in these investments, you know, and options can work to 617 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: your advantage or your disadvantage, depending on how they're being used. 618 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: So I think the important thing here is to sit 619 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: down with your fiduciary advisor, assume you have one, and 620 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: just look under the hood and see what the components 621 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: of your bond and alternative investment assets are and make 622 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: sure that you're comfortable with the amount of risk being taken. 623 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: Because again, as I mentioned in the prior segment, it's 624 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: awfully fun to reach for yield or more return, especially 625 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: when the when the c's look relatively calm. But I'm 626 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: telling you if and when, and it's not a matter 627 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: of if, it's a matter of when. We get into 628 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: a period of maybe a slight recession or a lot 629 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: of market volatility. You want to make sure you're comfortable 630 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: with what you own prior to volatility hitting the markets, 631 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: so you don't get whipsawed around and end up being 632 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: sorry that you bought what you own. And then what 633 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: we never want to see happen is somebody make that 634 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: phone call and say get me out, move me to cash. 635 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: Because to the extent that phone call needs to come 636 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: in for whatever reason, in my opinion, that means that 637 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: your advisor did not do his or her job to 638 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: educate you in advance about what you actually own and 639 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: have a good, honest conversation about whether you're comfortable with 640 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: the amount of risk being taken in your portfolio. I 641 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: hope that helps. Jeff, all right, Charlie and Bridgetown says, 642 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: we're holding several ETFs to track similar sectors. How can 643 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: you identify brian when you've accidentally created overlap or are 644 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: you just doubling up on risk? 645 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: Well, you got to look under the hood, so sometimes 646 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: that overlap really can't hide in plain sight. To give 647 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: an ETFs exchange funds, they may have different tickers, but 648 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 4: they could own the same ten top stocks, especially with 649 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: in areas like technology, dividend growth or broader US indexes. 650 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 4: So in other words, if you're looking at Apple, Microsoft, 651 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: and Video those kinds of holdings inside your funds, that 652 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: is overlap. That's exactly what we're getting at here. So 653 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: look at the weight, not just the list. Don't just 654 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: do a quick glance of the top ten holdings and 655 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: then call it a day. You've got to understand how 656 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: much of the portfolio that stock makes up, because most 657 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 4: of them are capitalization weighted, meaning the bigger the company, 658 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: the larger portion of the. 659 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 5: Portfolio makes up. Versus let's just throw. 660 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 4: One hundred companies in here and then each company has 661 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: one percent of this portfolio. 662 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: That's not how it works. 663 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 4: So in other words, if a given company is seven 664 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 4: percent of the first ETF and that same company makes 665 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: up six percent of the second ETF, you're not really 666 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: diversifying by owning two of the same but two different ETFs. 667 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: You're just adding more of that same exposure. Remember those 668 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: top ten holdings in each one of those is going 669 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: to drive almost half of that fund's behavior. So if 670 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: you really want to get into this, lots of fun 671 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: companies out there will publish this sort of free portfolio 672 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: overlap calculated look on their websites. So there's plenty of 673 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 4: them out there, and it'll show you if you smush 674 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: these things together, what does your ultimate portfolio look like 675 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 4: under that surface. Anything that shows an overlap of above, 676 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: you know, say even twenty thirty percent, that's kind of 677 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: worth double checking and make sure it's going to match 678 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 4: with the other stuff in your portfolio. So, yeah, you're 679 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: right to be thinking about these things. Just because something 680 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: has a different name does not mean you are diversified. 681 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: Look under that hood. 682 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: One more, another one here from a Nina and Mason. 683 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: Nina's talking about dividend reinvestment today. She says they've always 684 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: done that automatically, but now they're wondering if they should 685 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: start taking them in cash instead. And what's the trade 686 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: off if I turn on my dividends bigot for a 687 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: little bit of income. 688 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 5: Is there any sacrifice there? 689 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: Bob Well, Nina, I think it all comes down to 690 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: what your income needs are, and this is where it 691 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: might be time to look at an overall income strategy 692 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: rather than just looking at an investment strategy in a silo. 693 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: Here's what I mean there are. What it really comes 694 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: down to here is how tax efficient your portfolio is 695 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: and make sure that you're getting you know, everybody needs 696 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: and wants a certain amount of cash flow coming in. 697 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: It all comes down to how do we create that 698 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: cash flow on the best blend of tax efficiency and 699 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: risk adjusted investing. So you know, for example, sometimes if 700 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: you've got these you know, divinends coming in, you know, 701 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: we first need to determine are they qualified dividends or 702 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: non qualified dividends. If you don't need or want the 703 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: income at all from a cash flow standpoint to spend, 704 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: those dividends might be better placed in your I RA 705 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: or qualified accounts so you're not taxed on them right away. 706 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: So uh, it comes down again looking at what your 707 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: income needs and wants are in structure structuring the components 708 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: of your investment portfolio accordingly. All right, we've got time 709 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: for one more. Brian Kevin and Florida. He says he's 710 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: a long time listener and a Cincinnati snowbird. He's starting 711 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: to notice how taxes interact with investment returns, kind of 712 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: what I was talking about here just a minute ago. 713 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: And he brings up the example and it's a good one. 714 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: How capital gains can push up Medicare premiums. How do 715 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: you plan these for these investments in these what he 716 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: calls stealth taxes that come up from time to time. 717 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 4: Always good to hear from a podcast listener. Are I 718 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 4: don't think our radio waves reach all the way down there. 719 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: So he's downloading that poscat podcast every day. 720 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: We love it. 721 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, stealth taxes. This is the stuff that sneaks 722 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: up on you when you're not paying attention. Capital gains, 723 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: roth conversions, requirementum distributions, all of these things, big mutual 724 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: fund distributions that happen to December can quietly shove you 725 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 4: into places you don't want to be with your taxes. 726 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: The big one is called IRMA. I AREMAA, and that's 727 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 4: your Medicare premiums. That means you your monthly part D 728 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 4: and B premiums might climb eight hundred bucks two thousand 729 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: more per year depending on the bracket. 730 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 5: It's based on your income from two years earlier. 731 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 4: Right, So if you're looking at IRMA now, it's based 732 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: off of something that happened in twenty twenty three, and 733 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 4: whatever you're doing now will surface in twenty twenty seven, 734 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 4: so it does change, not locked in at anytime. Also, 735 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: you might have a tax torpedo from Social Security. This 736 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 4: is when your investment income mixes with your Social Security 737 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: benefits and you might get a hit that zone where 738 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: every dollar of gain effectsive effectively gets taxed like two 739 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 4: dollars of gain because it makes more of your Social 740 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 4: Security taxbile. There's this re threshold in there too, So 741 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: the fix is planning out that income, understand where it's 742 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: coming from, spread out those ROTH conversions over several years, 743 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 4: harvest those gains in years with low income municipal bonds 744 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 4: that are tax free, or favoring ETFs over active funds. 745 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 5: So you can reduce those surprise capital gains. 746 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: Good stuff, all right, before you spend that year end 747 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: bonus on a last minute getaway or even the newest iPhone, 748 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: we'll talk about how to really put that money to work. 749 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: Coming up next. You're listening to Simply Money started by 750 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: all Worth Financial on fifty five KRC the talk station. 751 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Simply Money presented by all Worth Financial 752 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: on Bob Sponsller along with Brian Chains. 753 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 5: So you just got a year. 754 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: End bonus or you're expecting to receive one very soon. 755 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: First off, congratulations, Whether that's a small surprise or maybe 756 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: a hefty chunk of change, a bonus can be a 757 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: powerful financial tool if you treat it right. Brian, why 758 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: don't you walk us through how to take all the 759 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: fun out of receiving a year end bonus and be 760 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: responsible with it. Be the adult in the room. 761 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: Only be happy for the instant that that money is 762 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 4: hitting the bank, and then start the worry machine, of course, 763 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 4: because that's how we call those human beings right now, 764 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 4: I'm kidding, but yeah, this is These kinds of nice 765 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: little windfalls are always they always come along with little 766 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: stress because you want to say, okay, what's the right 767 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: thing to do? 768 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, First off, I'll tell. 769 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 4: You if your situation is, if you're in a pretty 770 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 4: good situation and you've been a responsible adult, do something 771 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 4: fun with ten percent of it or something like that. 772 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: We are not here on this planet to stare at 773 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: a pile of money and not spend it. Nobody's going 774 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 4: to talk on your deathbed about that time you didn't 775 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 4: spend that money, So go do something fun with a 776 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 4: portion it now beyond that, or by asking what's my 777 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 4: weak spot? Do I have high interest debt hanging around. 778 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: Do I have that one credit card with several thousand 779 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 4: dollars on it that was maybe it was part of 780 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 4: a zero percent balance transfer situation and I took advantage 781 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 4: of that that I've kind of forgotten about it, and 782 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 4: now I'm paying twenty eight percent. That happens more often 783 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 4: than you might think, So you know, pay that down. 784 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: Just just blow it out of the water with a 785 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 4: few thousand bucks something like that. If you're behind on 786 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: retirement savings, maybe put a chunk of it into your 787 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 4: IRA or boost your four oh one K contributions for 788 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 4: the remainder of this year. There's not that much time left, 789 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 4: but if you've got those dollars sitting in your bank account, 790 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: you have a little more than usual. You can simply 791 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 4: crank up your four to one K contributions all the 792 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: way up to one hundred percent, knowing that you've already 793 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 4: got money in the bank to actually pay the bills. 794 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 4: That's a sneaky way to put a lump sum into 795 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 4: a four toh one K. You cannot write a check 796 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 4: into it, but you can filter it through your payroll 797 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 4: as long as you've got money to pay the bills. 798 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: So anyway, then beyond that, if you've got the debt 799 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: in retirement on track, then start to think tax strategy. 800 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 4: Maybe you use this bonus to fund a donor advice 801 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 4: fund before December thirty first, that'll give you a nice deduction. 802 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 4: If you are contributing to charities anyway, pull that forward 803 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 4: many years of contributions into one account, and the church 804 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: or the charity behind it doesn't have to know that 805 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 4: you're aware of that. 806 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying don't enjoy any of it. Treat 807 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 5: yourself a little bit, but put some guardrails on it. 808 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 5: Take ten percent for fun and the rest of it. 809 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 5: Look at the weak spots. 810 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: Brian, you already brought up the big guardrail, and again 811 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: it bears repeating. If you are sitting out there with 812 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: a credit card balance or this zero interest loan that 813 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: turns into a pumpkin here in the next month, where 814 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: you will be paying high interest rates, you do need 815 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: to forego the fun here and get that stuff taken 816 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: care of, make it, make that debt go away. Thanks 817 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: for listening. You've been listening to Simply Money, presented by 818 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: all Worth Financial on fifty five KRC, the talk station