1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since he three sixty about Cincinnati 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati sponsoredmen Park by Cincy Shirts. Cincy Shirts all 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: sincey all day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: All right, welcome in our number two thanks to Cincy Shirts. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: We got plenty to tell you about in Cincy Shirts 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: here in the next segment, but for now. The Wednesday 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: weekly press conference from pay Course Stadium with Zach Taylor 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: happening right now. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: Seck, you open the twenty. 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: One day windows for both Dajon and Mike. 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: You anticipate them being able to play something. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: We'll see you know. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 5: Dejon obviously hasn't gotten in practice is training camp, so 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 5: I think that one there's a lot of work that's 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 5: got to go in there. 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: He hasn't played football in a long time. 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 5: Kasecki being out four weeks, I feel like he's a 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 5: little ready to hit the ground running. 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: So we'll see how he looks this week. 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 6: I'll think it could get Mike back given that everything. 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps, given that situation to lose a guy 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 5: like Jamar and had one like Mike certainly helped. 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: He's the pain a little bit and we'd be happy 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: to have. 25 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: Your reaction to obviously the suspension and then and then 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: his appeal being denied. 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we we we gave him everything we had. 28 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 5: They have held the suspension and so as a team, 29 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: we just got to move forward. You know, still support 30 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 5: Jamar and I have support Jamar, but we got to 31 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 5: focus on New England now and look forward to getting 32 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 5: Jamrow next back next Monday. 33 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 7: Is that move for Dejon to be at faded because 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 7: he's finally ready from injury standpoint, or just that you 35 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 7: guys are hopeful in the next couple of weeks to 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 7: see what we can. 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 8: Do for you. 38 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's time to get him back, you know. And 39 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 5: so again now he's he's healthy and so open up 40 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 5: this twenty one day windows. 41 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: We can look at him going into December. It's just 42 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: it's time to do that, Pitch said. 43 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 9: His message to the receivers was, you know, a bunch 44 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 9: of guys getting an opportunity here with Jamorrow. What do 45 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 9: you hope to see kind of in practice this week 46 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 9: to figure out who's going to get those chances. 47 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, guys just taking advantage of the opportunity. Again, It's 48 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: that's exactly what it is. That's how some guys have 49 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 5: gotten their chances. That's how Mitch Tinsley has has gotten 50 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 5: himself on the roster, has taken advantage of moments where 51 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: he's at, you know, and so again, I just think 52 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 5: we'll continue to evaluate these guys. We got a good 53 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 5: plan in place to utilize everybody we can. Then we'll 54 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 5: see how guys continue to step up as the week goes. 55 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: What challenges does Drake may presenting? What do you think 56 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: about him? 57 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: I think he's done a great job. 58 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: I mean, four to one touchdown interception is really impressive 59 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 5: considering his second year, new coaching staff, you know all 60 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: that stuff you factor in. 61 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: I think he's done an excellent job. 62 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 5: Seventy completion which is really impressive too, so he's doing 63 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 5: everything right and leading the team the eight straight wins. 64 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: I think it's just really impressive. And he's he's a 65 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 5: tough challenge when you guys taking care of the football 66 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: like that, completing balls at a high rate like he is, 67 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: twenty touchdowns five, can make plays with his feet as well, 68 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 5: So he's really impressive in a difficult challenge. 69 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: For you guys. 70 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 10: What did you see from Josh mcdagall so offens run 71 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 10: by Drake May. 72 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: What is it about Josh. 73 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 8: McDaniel's that over the years that's. 74 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: Made him successful. 75 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 5: He does a great job attacking defenses in a lot 76 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 5: of different ways, stay and patient, picking his moments for 77 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: for big opportunities explosives. 78 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: It's hard to say how much offense they carry. I 79 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: don't know. 80 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 5: I've never really been with him, but they just do 81 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 5: a good job with their game planning week to week 82 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: and attack attacking what they think your weaknesses. And I'm 83 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: always having some nice wrinkles in place. He's done it 84 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 5: for a long time a very high level, won a 85 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 5: lot of Super Bowls. A ton of respect for Josh, 86 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: and he's certainly getting a lot of the offense right now. 87 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 11: That is a term that comes up a lot when 88 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 11: his name comes up. You see, where do you see 89 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 11: any characteristics of a mesh offense with them? 90 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Run through the break offense. 91 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 5: A mesh like the concept mess like crossing deceiver. Yeah, 92 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: I think if he's get yeah, I mean that that's 93 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 5: through me on that one, and I didn't expect that question. 94 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure that shows up. That's not what I necessarily 95 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 5: think of right out the gate. 96 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: Set. 97 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 8: You know, a game against a good New England team 98 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 8: with a good record, I think is gonna demand, always 99 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 8: going to demand the attention of whoever that the team 100 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 8: is playing. I just wonder because of the unique circumstance 101 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 8: of you guys having one of the coveted like primetime 102 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 8: games the following Thursday on Thanksgiving Night, they're like any 103 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 8: usefulness and maybe just telling the guys focus on this one, don't. 104 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 8: I know, the idea of looking ahead beyond this doing 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 8: the team is insane, but like, don't look ahead just 106 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 8: because we have this, you know, Thursday night game coming up. 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 5: I had a competition to do that for one second. 108 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: I think they're pretty well focused on the ring. 109 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: How Joe Black of feelings, he can have practice it if. 110 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 5: You won't practice today, same schedule as we've been on 111 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 5: the last couple weeks, and. 112 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: That's just maintenance, don't Yeah you'll practice? Yes, well, he 113 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: definitely start on some. We'll keep working through it, you know, 114 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: and see how we go through the week. 115 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: Is that your scenario, Joe Burrow? 116 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow hasn't practiced eleven on eleven yet, So, like 117 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 5: I said the other day, until we get through some practice, 118 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 5: there's no reason for me to even speculate on. 119 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 9: That well without Flacco, like Wednesday kind of be Burrow's 120 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 9: day and then Thursday kind of Flaco's day. 121 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you can certainly get a lot of 122 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 5: work in with Joe today, Joe Burrow today because Flacco 123 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: is not practicing, because the plan has been getting into 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: eleven and eleven so it works well. So we're not 125 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: trying to balance the guy who is going to practice 126 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 5: on a Wednesday, Joe Joe flaccol hasn't done that. We 127 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: got to think of another way to communicate this because 128 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 5: the two Joe's that really is just this is getting 129 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: harder and harder every. 130 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: Week that passes. 131 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: But so we'll get through today and it's just good 132 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 5: start to get dra out there in eleven on eleven. 133 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: See how it goes well. 134 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to. 135 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 8: Eleven on eleven today. 136 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: I think Mike he will, He'll do it. 137 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 7: Today's gotten a lot of praise for the job that 138 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 7: they've done and the rebuild of the entire team, but 139 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 7: specifically on defense obviously that's Rabeles. 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: You know, bread and Butter, and you look at you 141 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: played them last year. What's the biggest change you've seen 142 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: in this year? 143 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, impossible to compare that was that was a weak one. 144 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: It's such a unique thing because they had a new 145 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 5: staff last year, so year ensure so that that one 146 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 5: doesn't to me even count. 147 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: I think that he's just done a great job. 148 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 5: It's it's it's similar enough to what they did in Tennessee, 149 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: but there's some differences, you know, and so again I 150 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: think spending time away for a year. However you look 151 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: at it, it's they've done a good job. There's some 152 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 5: things that stayed the same that they're really hard nose 153 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: playing defense. They do the they do the simple things 154 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: really well. There's a physicality to them for sure. That 155 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 5: shows up. 156 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 8: You know. 157 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 5: There's there's a couple of guys that have been with 158 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: Raple in the past that he brings along, and some 159 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: other guys that they added from around the league, and 160 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 5: then the guys that have been there that they continue 161 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 5: to grow within the organization. So it's a challenging defense. 162 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 5: They do a really good job. It's not even a 163 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 5: team that that overall has They won eight in a row, 164 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: so you normally look at the turnover battle and think, Okay, 165 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 5: they're dominating the term they're not. 166 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: There's zero you know it's even for them. 167 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: And so that that's an impressive way to win it 168 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 5: in a row when there's been games where it's where 169 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: it's plus or minus but overall at zero, And so 170 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: I think that that's just pretty impressive that they've been 171 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 5: able to do what they do with the rector they have. 172 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: That tells you that they're playing really sound football in 173 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 5: all three phases. 174 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: Guy, I think we forgot to ask about it on Monday. 175 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 8: Smarty A. 176 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: D Ryan, Is he getting closer to be doubtful this week? 177 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 9: You did a lot about the defense on Monday and 178 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 9: things that you want to fix going into this week. 179 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 9: Are there any like positive examples that you've the staff 180 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 9: is pointed to and said like, here's what we wanted 181 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 9: to look like from some things. 182 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a lot of great examples on 183 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 5: first and second down where we won and got them 184 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 5: to where we wanted and didn't necessarily finish all the time. 185 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: There's times we did there was. 186 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: A there's a physicality there that I thought, Like I said, 187 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: I thought the linebackers did a good job from an 188 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: operational standpoint. So yeah, there's a lot of things to 189 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: build on that I think had been better than the 190 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 5: weeks before that. It's not our standards, not let's just 191 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: be a little bit better. It's it's we want to 192 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 5: completely raise the standard for a whole team. But there 193 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: were some things that we got to continue to build on. 194 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: Osa got a little dinged up at the beginning of 195 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: the game. Obviously finished the game. Will he be out 196 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: there Today's yeah. 197 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: There's guys of course that always get deemed back in 198 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 5: the games, and we'll manage them through the week. 199 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: But he's in good shape. 200 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: No one makes it to the NFL by shying away 201 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: from challenges. But a team that's one eight and rows 202 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: is something that you actually enjoy that. It's something that 203 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: you want to go after and try to snap them. 204 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't. 205 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: I mean, you kind of know what our mentality has 206 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: been over the last couple of years, and these opportunities 207 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: are fun ones, you know. 208 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: It's it's all these games are meaningful. 209 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: They've obviously they're in a really good rhythm and they've 210 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 5: earned that, and so it's it's a great opportunity for 211 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 5: us to find our rhythm, you know, to go out 212 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 5: there and challenge them and put our best foot forward 213 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: and see how it all falls. 214 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: Get some moment in them after this games the White Sunday, Well, 215 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: you're your communications limited. 216 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: I mean I talked to immediately after the game, but 217 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 5: then since then you can't have communication with him, which 218 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: is tricky. 219 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: But again, he and I are in the same page 220 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: of everything. I'll just keep that with me and Jamal. 221 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: When does that end postgames? 222 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: It's I'm not sure if it's four pm Monday, sometime 223 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: on Monday. 224 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 8: What do you what would your expectations for him be 225 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 8: during this no contact. 226 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: Or can't talk to him? So I'm not expeculating. 227 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 12: What have you seen from from Charlie Jones and the 228 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 12: things that he could potentially give. 229 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: You seing Charlie's got a lot of confidence in their offense, 230 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: So again he's waiting for his opportunity. We've been really 231 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: healthy at the spot, you know, so there hasn't been 232 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 5: a lot of opportunity take advantage hup. So I think 233 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 5: this is one of those moments where where guys have 234 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 5: an opportunity to make a name for himself. And we'll 235 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: keep working through that for practice and see where it 236 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: ends up. 237 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: On Sunday. 238 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: I asked you Monday, and you said you evaluated every day. 239 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Do you anticipate any starting lineup changes on defense? 240 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 3: Will keep working through this week? Thank you, jam. 241 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: All right, back to back week short and sweet for 242 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. 243 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 12: I totally forgot about Charlie Jones. It's a good question 244 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 12: from James there, because I totally forgot about Charlie Jones. 245 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 12: I would imagine we'll see a decent amount of him 246 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 12: just because he knows the offense. But the exchange that 247 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 12: I found most interesting there was about Joe Flacco won't 248 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 12: practice today, did not say he would start on Sunday. 249 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 12: When asked is there a scenario where Joe Burrow would play, 250 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 12: he said, Joe Burrow hasn't done eleven on eleven. He 251 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 12: didn't say no. 252 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: And he said he will do eleven on eleven today, correct. 253 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: I think that's interesting. 254 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 12: I don't know that there's anything there, and who knows 255 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 12: what Joe feels like or how practice goes or any 256 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 12: of that, but it's interesting. It's been around this time 257 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 12: in the past where the Bengals have made some moves 258 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 12: thinking about next year. You may remember Andy Dalton. Andy 259 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 12: Dalton was benched for three games. Sure that helped him 260 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 12: get Joe Burrow. You know, I don't know that Joe's 261 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 12: gonna start. Maybe Jake Browning could play. 262 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's all speculating. 263 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 12: It's interesting, but I found that exchange to feel like, Okay, 264 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 12: there might be a little bit more there, and he 265 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 12: was letting on. 266 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: Also on Sunday after the game, Zach very quickly shot 267 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: down any personnel changes today. He said they will work 268 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: through the week and see what happens. Yeah, so not 269 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. I also thought, 270 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: just to clarify, I think it's fair to clarify, Jamar 271 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: Chase cannot be in the building or have contact until Monday, 272 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: so that's kind of how that works. No mention of 273 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,479 Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton in that press. 274 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 12: Conference did go out of his way to mention Mitchell Tinsley. 275 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 12: He did, I think if Kasiki's back, Burton may not dress. 276 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 12: It's crazy right without Jamar is it? 277 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: Man? I can't believe he's still on the team. Honestly, 278 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: that's like that. The thing for me is, why is 279 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: he then on the team? Just in case? Well, just 280 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: in case, you would think, just in case Jamar Chase 281 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: isn't playing. 282 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 12: Just in case, I would have kept Isaiah Williams over 283 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 12: Jermaine Burton, Right, dude could return punts. 284 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh man, what a world there is. 285 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 12: I understand this is not how we want it to be. 286 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 12: We don't want to dive into elite losing football team, 287 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 12: but there are enough things happening that make the week 288 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 12: in the game itself interesting because of the various storylines 289 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 12: throughout the rest of the year. Still seven games left. 290 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: I was at dinner with a couple friends last night 291 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: and someone asked me, how hard is it on radio 292 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: when the team is struggling, And I said, normally, it 293 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: can be challenging, I said, but oddly enough, this team 294 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: has so many interesting storylines that it's it's something you 295 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: can easily talk about. 296 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 12: I think there was a period of time where it 297 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 12: was kind of difficult because we were just saying the 298 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 12: same thing over and over. There wasn't much change offense, 299 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 12: good defense, bad, no good tackling. And then we get 300 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 12: the you know, Mike Florio thing about Duke tob and 301 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 12: I'm sure they fired duketb and I'm sure they fire 302 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 12: Zach Taylor. Now Joe Burrow come. It's gotten better. But 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 12: for a while there it was just same thing every day. Yeah, 304 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 12: and you know, at least there's there's some changes, there's 305 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 12: some stuff to look for. I think it changes the 306 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 12: way you watch the game, at least for me. I 307 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 12: spent so much of Sunday watching Miles Murphy, so much 308 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 12: watching Cedric Johnson, so much watching Barrett Carter, just seeing like, 309 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 12: what are these guys doing? And I think that's kind 310 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 12: of how you, yeah, look at games like this too. 311 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. We uh, we have much more to discuss as 312 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: it relates to any other big takeaway from Zach Taylor 313 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: before we move on. Hold on, let me let me 314 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: see what did I write down here? I wrote down 315 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: the Burrow him being at eleven on eleven, Flacco not practicing, 316 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase not able to be in the building. 317 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 12: I wrote Mike GESICKI sounds like he's gonna play. Mitchell 318 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 12: Tinsley mentioned Flacco won't practice, not guaranteed to start, p 319 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 12: Ryan doubtful again. Charlie Jones totally forgot about him, and 320 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 12: potential changes to the defensive starting lineup. 321 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't feel as if Dejon Anthony is 322 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: close enough to push genostone. We'll see unfortunately, All right, 323 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: let's break, let's come back. 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They never 352 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 14: really do anything to prop up the defense for years. 353 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 14: It's gross. 354 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 15: Still my team, still. 355 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 16: By the gear. 356 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 11: Going to see them in Miami in December. 357 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: Thank gus. 358 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 17: All right, thank you appreciate Down there, Charlie, Tony Oddie, 359 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 17: what's happening lean the truck here? I just want to 360 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 17: lead his talk back to taff High School. 361 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 8: Man. 362 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 17: I know the media loves to point shine a bad light, 363 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 17: and who cares about the truth when it lives more entertaining? 364 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 18: Man, But. 365 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 17: Tyler, keep running a hell of a program down there. 366 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 17: You go, faculty members down there, keep doing your thing 367 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 17: down there for those kids. Man, it's a shame that 368 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 17: the Cincinnati public school systems don't got y'all back. Man, 369 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 17: But kids, y'all keep shouting for greatness down there. Keep 370 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 17: doing your thang down there, and we love y'all. 371 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: Okay, did I miss something, So what's going on? Something 372 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: came up yesterday where there was a photo going around 373 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: of the Indian Hill visitor locker room and there were 374 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: holes punched in the wall all over the locker room, 375 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: and so stories started running locally that you know, authorities 376 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: were looking into it and that obviously Taft had played there, 377 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: and so people, I think a little bit too early, 378 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: jumped the gun and accused Taft. And then a video 379 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: later surfaced of someone that was taking a video as 380 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: Taft was entering into the locker room, which showed the 381 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: holes were already in the wall. So now you're seeing 382 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: a lot of tracking because people kind of ran with 383 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: it before I think knowing the full story. I don't 384 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: know if the full full story is out there yet, 385 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: but there seems to be a video out that that 386 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: the holes were already there. Interesting. 387 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 19: Austin my co workers in Madison, Indiana. 388 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: Have your NFL team to root for the rest of 389 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: this season? 390 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: Colts Coats, Colts Coat. 391 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 9: Let's go. 392 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 12: Jeff got the co workers in on it and sound 393 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 12: effects rank them. I don't know if I'm ready to 394 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 12: root for the Cults. Okay, I don't know if I 395 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 12: want to put my faith in Danny Dimes. 396 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, happy home Day. This is Cavin and Architect. 397 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 14: You talked back on Tony Pike's Sincy three sixty feetrig 398 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 14: Austin chopped liver elmore, Tony, are you going to be 399 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 14: a guests on the Big pregame show this Saturday? 400 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the Bearcats game? 401 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 14: And if so, are you going to talk about what's 402 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 14: going on with our head coach Scott scattered in his shorts? 403 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: Oh my, I don't think. I don't think so. 404 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: Good day, don't you know? I can think it's your 405 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 6: Incinnati sports Omier. Given the NFL's season events and the 406 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 6: way that the Cincinnati Bengals name has been sullied, I 407 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 6: must declare them the greatest gender dogs in sports history, 408 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 6: and therefore. 409 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: I have to root for them even harder. Does this 410 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: mean that we're watching all seven remaining games? 411 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: Yes, it does, Bart, but I'll make your favorite shaved 412 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 6: borderhouse Beazza. 413 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: No, No, we's judged, Thank you, Homer, love each other. 414 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 20: I open my mouth today, guy, Tom. 415 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: Wasn't he. 416 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 14: Did not sit on that's. 417 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 6: I ain't never opened my mouth. 418 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: Today, guy. 419 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 12: Now you could view jamar As as saying a double negative. 420 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 12: I ain't spit on nobody which could say telling the 421 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 12: truth and he got a box. 422 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 13: John, Sorry, I'm getting in a little late, But mans 423 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 13: and seven called in a couple of days ago, and 424 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 13: I believe he said he hated the Steelers in Michigan 425 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 13: Man's and seven. 426 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: Why do you hate Michigan? 427 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 13: Is it because the team you root for loses to them? 428 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: I have no idea who you root for, but. 429 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 13: If that's the case, then you must hate the Reading 430 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 13: Memorial day three on three because you stay losing down there, 431 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 13: Bob Baby. 432 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: Now May got his wires crossed here yea, which is 433 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: of surprise. 434 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 12: Yep, MAVs and seven and balling ain't easier two different people, John. 435 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: Yep, Now MAVs and seven. They want to change his 436 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: name because MAVs in seven is essentially how many games 437 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: it took for the Dallas Mavericks to be eliminated from 438 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: playoff contention this year. 439 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 12: Yeah, Cooper flag looks pretty terrible. Well, I'm happy for 440 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 12: uh Moon though his super Bowl's coming up next Saturday. 441 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, love your show. 442 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 21: What a fun first howur that was? 443 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: Thank you? 444 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 21: I was wondering if there's any truth to the rumor 445 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 21: I heard years ago that the Bengals, in order to 446 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 21: fulfill the Rooney role requirement, simply turned around and did 447 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 21: a soft interview of Marvin Lewis, the guy that they 448 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 21: literally just fired because the Bengals were too lazy and 449 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 21: cheap to bring anyone else in. 450 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: Is this true? I don't believe. I don't believe that's true. 451 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: It's not true. 452 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 18: After seeing how badly the UK looked last I think 453 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 18: you guys don't have as much to worry about with 454 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 18: Louisville as you might have thought you did, because Kentucky, frankly, 455 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 18: is not very good. 456 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: By the way, this would be my last TikTok this week. 457 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 18: My next one will be from will be next week, 458 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 18: from somewhere else in the United States. 459 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Man, guess where. I'll give you a hint. I'll be 460 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: where my daughter is now living. 461 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 12: Well, if you remember, a couple of weeks ago, Ken 462 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 12: told us that his daughter lives. I believe in Salt 463 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 12: Lake City. Man Ken just travels the world. 464 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he's got it made. He does. 465 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: His teams might stink, but he gets to go around 466 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: and great counterport. Though maybe maybe there is hope for 467 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: the Bearcats. 468 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 20: Hey, Jim and Milford, Hey, if you want to increase 469 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 20: the TV ratings for the Pro Bowl and all these 470 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 20: different skill challenges, let's do a spending contest. 471 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: What do you think. I don't think that would work, 472 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: he thought, he he choked with that. I don't think. 473 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, Marcus from the groove. Unfortunately, the honeymoon phase 474 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 10: with Mark Poe ended for me after this Week sixteen 475 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 10: layup last season, and with the start that we've got 476 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 10: this year, I'm starting to think. 477 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 14: That he might not be the guy. I mean, last 478 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 14: night was just pitiful. Louisville was just pitiful. 479 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 6: I think I think we made a mistake on that one. 480 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 481 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: Now I believe I saw or read somewhere they've spent 482 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: like twenty two million on that roster and if they're 483 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: not winning. 484 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 11: Okay, So about what Ben Roethlisbergers said. Anybody with two 485 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 11: eyes and tummen since can tell that the Steelers are 486 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 11: a dirty team. It's just what they do every year, 487 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 11: every almost every game. All you gotta do is go 488 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 11: back and look at the film for their dirty hits. 489 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: Watch the film. 490 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 11: I think what he's saying is competitively, they don't respect 491 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 11: the Bengals as a true rival like they do the 492 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 11: Ravens because they haven't won any thing like the Ravens hair, 493 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 11: and then the rivalry is way one sided. I mean, 494 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 11: the Steelers are forty two and nineteen over the last 495 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 11: thirty years versus Home. 496 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I'll take your take. 497 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: Prosecution of Mike Brown day two. 498 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 18: We all know Mike's processes are flawed. 499 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 6: Every number proves it. 500 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: His definition of winning is flawed as well, the valuable 501 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: franchise and one of the lowest winning percentages as an owner. 502 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 4: Winning to him is a contractual success. Nick constantly bites 503 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: him in the ours. If you really want somethingbody you're 504 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 4: willing to change. Also, did you know the Bengals have 505 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 4: the third least amount of Hall of Famers. Things that 506 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: make you say, hmmm, let's get Kenny in there. 507 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 22: Okay, thank you Ardi as usual, you are on point. Yes, 508 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 22: It's been like that since the Bengals inception. The Steelers 509 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 22: have always disrespected the Bengals. It just always goes that way, 510 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 22: and you hardly ever hear anything. Oftentimes there's not even 511 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 22: a flag. They have single handedly ended playoff and potential 512 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 22: Super Bowl runs correct, and sometimes it seems like it's 513 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 22: on purpose, but every time it goes the other way, 514 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 22: it's like a federal case, the turning into crybabies. 515 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: I'm not saying what Chase did was right, but there's 516 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: another side. 517 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: Okay, there are two sides to every story. If you 518 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: want a little hope, I him for the defense. Okay. 519 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 21: Seattle, for instance, has gone from twenty fourth to fourteenth 520 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 21: to ninth. 521 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: Now, I think so, you know it is possible to 522 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: make things happen fairly quickly. The only difference in Seattle 523 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: is their coach is a proven defensive genius. That's the 524 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: only difference. Is all right, and you'll be a boss. 525 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 15: That's Austin. 526 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 23: You said something insightful, which is rare, so I had 527 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 23: to do a little talking. 528 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Too on it. 529 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 23: You said, Mike Brown wants to win. 530 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 14: He doesn't. 531 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 23: He hates lous, wants to win his way, and his 532 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 23: way has flaws. Well, the same with your Garry Jones. 533 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 23: Jerry Jones wants to win, but it has to be 534 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 23: his way. He would rather than lose doing it his 535 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 23: way than let somebody else be in charge. 536 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 18: And there's the problem. 537 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's fair. 538 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, Katy Anderson has got to be put in the 539 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 10: Hall of Fame. 540 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 6: Is just so ridiculous. 541 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 10: Are the Pistons are something else? Okay? See unreal. Seems 542 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 10: like Zach Taylor's had enough press conferences for one week. Yeah, 543 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 10: it's Taylor's Bengals. They tried to kill our punter two 544 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 10: different times. You know it's it's bad when that happened. 545 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the lord, hey lord. 546 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 16: The silent reporters always asked Zach Taylor going into halftime, 547 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 16: so what adjustments do you think you'll make? He always 548 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 16: brings up, well, we need to make defensive stops and 549 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 16: get create turnovers. He may want to tell that to 550 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 16: your team back. 551 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: It's true. 552 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 15: No love, no love, no love for that city up there, 553 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 15: No love in the city, sunny hot. Come on, Ben, 554 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 15: I heard you. Pittsburgh's a flower city. One of the 555 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 15: worst stadiums, the worst cities I've received. Flower City, ugly colors, 556 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 15: yellow and black pirates to the pit panthers, to the squealers. 557 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: Man sucks man. 558 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 15: I ain't forgot about what you guys did us back 559 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 15: in the day. That's why we don't like that city. 560 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 15: That's why we don't like that team. I gotta respectful 561 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 15: the Cleveland Browns and I got for them real talk, 562 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 15: and the Ravens Now I don't respect them neither. 563 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: It's all about Bengals, Okay. 564 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 24: I mean you want to talk about a team that's 565 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 24: built for sports radio. I mean, lucky you guys. They 566 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 24: just put it on a fee for you and you 567 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 24: just got to hit it. I mean every single day, 568 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 24: it's something new with the screw. Having said that, the organization, 569 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 24: you have two of the best players in the sport, 570 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 24: two of the best in the sport. You think the 571 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 24: Saints of the Jets wouldn't want Joe Burrow and Jamar 572 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 24: Chase to start their franchises they had into free agency 573 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 24: in the draft. You already have that this is not 574 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 24: a total tear down. You can't fix this if you're competent, 575 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 24: which I'm not quite sure they are. 576 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is fixable. 577 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 12: I do not think this is a complete rebuild, and 578 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 12: I think that's part of the reason why Zach will 579 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 12: probably keep his job. And you know, whether you agree 580 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 12: with that or not, I can see a world that 581 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 12: they are a playoff team next year. 582 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: I can. Okay, did I hear. 583 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 19: Zach say something about first and second down? We're quote 584 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 19: unquote good is he referring to Pittsburgh went on every 585 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 19: second and ten we ran the ball with almost no success. 586 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 19: I'm hoping I heard that wrong, but if you guys heard. 587 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 12: It differently, please I think he was talking about the defense. 588 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 12: There was some good tackling on first and second downs 589 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 12: on defense. If you remember, there was conversions of third 590 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 12: and ten, third and eleven, third and seventeen, third and 591 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 12: sixteenth eleven. Yeah, so they did get him in third 592 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 12: and long. 593 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: All right. I think he was talking can we find 594 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: out what? 595 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 9: Talkbackers snuck into Zach Taylor's press conference and asked the. 596 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Question about looking ahead to Thursday night? 597 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: It was guy, it took a while to get there. 598 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 25: What what other NFL teams can you think of that 599 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 25: struggle to score offensively because they can't scheme their way 600 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 25: out of what the defense is showing them in coverage. 601 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 25: I mean, typically it's because they don't have enough talent. 602 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 25: But when I think about the Bengals, I think about 603 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 25: how Zach Taylor can't scheme against zone coverage against the 604 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 25: Steelers to get anything done offensively. And then I also 605 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 25: think about twenty twenty two. During the first part of 606 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 25: the season, when he could have schemed his way out 607 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 25: of Cover two. 608 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we did have a We did 609 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: have a lengthy conversation about cover two a couple of years. 610 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 12: I think you can go back and look at the 611 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 12: film from Pittsburgh and see there was a handful of 612 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 12: plays that Joe Flacco missed. There was at least two 613 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 12: where Noahfense was wide open for a touchdown and Flacco 614 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 12: didn't hit him and it was either a protection issue 615 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 12: or Flacco checked it down or whatever it was. I 616 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 12: think the big thing is that third option has been winning. 617 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 12: Fant won a couple times, Yoshibash hasn't won enough. Uh 618 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 12: maybe with Kiseki back, that has a role in it. 619 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 12: I understand your counter that would be you have Jamar 620 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 12: Chase and t Higgins. 621 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 622 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 12: But there are some plays at the Bengals offensively left 623 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 12: out there, and specifically the quarterback left out there against 624 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 12: the Steelers. 625 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: There's two sides of her story. 626 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 14: One's a line and one's the true and Mike Brown 627 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 14: and the Bengals front office have been lying to it 628 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 14: our sales for years thinking that their way works. 629 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: There you go, thank you, Kevin. It was our last one. 630 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: All right, a break and a football in the Natty 631 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: that we're gonna have some fun with when we come back. 632 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh boy. On ESPN fifteen thirty six, Sinnati Sports Station. 633 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: What you're talking about? Thanks the Sinti shirts. 634 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: Plumbing Football in the NATI brought you in part by 635 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: Bud Light and by Oakley Greens. On ESPN fifteen thirty, 636 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 637 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back Football in the NATI. Here we go, ESPN 638 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. It's our number two. We're 639 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: gonna switch gears in our number three. We're gonna get 640 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 2: some college basketball on multiple fronts. But before we get 641 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: to that, Austin, I thought we could have some fun 642 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: here because Matt Miller came up with his twenty twenty 643 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: six NFL Mock Draft first round predictions. Okay, and I thought, 644 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: what better time than now to dive right in. I 645 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: like Matt Miller with both feet. Now here's what's almost 646 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: comical to me, restaurant named after him. The Jets the 647 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: number one overall pick. They have this as a projected 648 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: trade with the Tennessee Titans. Titans have their quarterback. Jets 649 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: don't Jets move up to number one. 650 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 12: They first of all, I love that it is a 651 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 12: November mock draft with a projected trade at number one. 652 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: I like that a lot. We go right, we go 653 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: right into it. Fernando Mendoza, Oh, first one off the board. 654 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: That would be an unmitigated disease astor in the city 655 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: of New York. Fernando Mendoza. 656 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 12: I don't know what's going on with Fernando Mendoza, but 657 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 12: I think there's some layers of the onion that need 658 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 12: to be be peeled back a little bit. 659 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: I feel like when I watch him in interviews, it 660 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: looks like he's reading off a script. 661 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 12: I don't know someone I don't want to say something, 662 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 12: you know, sure inappropriate or insensitive. 663 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would worry about that in that city. 664 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: But okay, let's go ahead. Well let's let's let's get 665 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: even better here. Number two. The Browns swap spots with 666 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: the Giants and they take Dante More quarterback from Oregon. Okay, 667 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: but the Browns Dylan Gabriel Sidora Sanders. Let's take another one. 668 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: They get the Oregon quarterback at number two. Now number three, 669 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: the Giants we get into uh, they take a tackle 670 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: from Miami. The Tennessee Titans take Jordan Tyson, wide receiver 671 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: from Arizona State. Good player. The Raiders. Number five, they 672 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: find their quarterback in ty Simpson. Already what I'm seeing 673 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: here Austin not a great quarterback class. Yeah, we've all 674 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: known that for a while. Three out of the top 675 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: five are quarterbacks according to Matt Miller's first round mock 676 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: draft of twenty twenty six, which is hard to even 677 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: say on November nineteenth, but here we are. That's what 678 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: happens when you've got three wins on a season. The 679 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints Austin rvel Reese, linebacker, Ohio State. That's 680 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: a shame. Number seven the Washington Commanders take Reuben Bain 681 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: junior edge rusher from Miami, and then back edge rushers. 682 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: Number eight the Cincinnati Bengals, and he guess I hope 683 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: Caleb Downs Keldrick Falk edge rusher. That would be a 684 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Bengals pick Auburn a guy who's ginormous and strong and 685 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: powerful but doesn't do anything boom. He's got like, uh 686 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: he is two sacks six eighty five with two sacks, 687 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: no force fumble, no interceptions. That would infuriate me if 688 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: Downs is there and they to Kendrick was that was 689 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: going to be the point I was making on this. Now, 690 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, he did have seven sacks, which 691 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: is what two and a half more than what who 692 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: am I thinking of? Jamar Stewart had in his career. 693 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: So seven sacks in twenty twenty four, but just to 694 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: this year only been in on a total of twenty 695 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: six tackles. Just just don't shoot the messenger. This is 696 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: just the mock draft. Can you imagine, though, Austin, if 697 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is sitting there at number eight and the 698 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: Bengals pass on him and take a physical monster, but 699 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: just not putting up the stats on the field, it 700 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: would basically be Karl Lawston Part two. I've looked this 701 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: up while you were talking. 702 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 12: The next pick he has Caleb Downs going to Arizona 703 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 12: and it says, quote yep, Downs is the top player 704 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 12: on my board. So his top board Matt Miller's number 705 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 12: top you know whatever? Is Caleb Downs amazing. 706 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: Best player on the board and it says the Cardinals 707 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: need a safety upgrade. What is Matt Miller watching? 708 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 12: I think it's a good mock draft because he's basing 709 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 12: it off the history and the strends that the Bengals 710 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 12: have done. 711 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: This wouldn't surprise me. No, And I would be maddening 712 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: if Caleb Downs were there and they get a physical 713 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: specimen that just hasn't quite produced yet. You know, Caleb 714 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: downs middle name? What is it third mmm? I thought 715 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: it was turnover. And also I like that you can 716 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 2: do money money Downs. I like that a lot. 717 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 22: Oh. 718 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 12: I would be thrilled if they got does he have 719 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 12: does he have? Caden McDonald going? 720 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: Uh, Spencer, let me tell you this now ten Spencer 721 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: of the the tackle from Utah. That dude's a monster 722 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: as well. Jeremiah Love is up here. Who'd you ask for? 723 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 14: Uh? 724 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: Cayden McDonald. Cayden McDonald. He's got cardial Tate going to 725 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: the Steelers nineteen damn it, nineteen damn it. He's got 726 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: Cayden McDonald at twenty three to the Niners. 727 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, that dude's a beast. So you're thinking trade back. 728 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 12: I think that's I'm not kidding. I think that's possible 729 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 12: trade back. The Bengals tried to trade back in the 730 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 12: first round this year and they couldn't. 731 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: I think the Bengals have to address linebacker, and they'll 732 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: take Anthony Hill Junior, who on Matt Miller's list right 733 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: now is number thirty two. They reached for Anthony Hill. 734 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be surprised if he's like a corner either. Yeah, 735 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did. I had to laugh because I'm 736 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: scrolling down this earlier today and I'm like Ketdrick and 737 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: so now I'm like, all right, let me look up 738 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: Keldric falk. I would lose my two sacks six six 739 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: eighty five. It says built in the mold of Trey Hendrickson. 740 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, great, Downs would still be on the board. Oh, 741 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 2: after they just passed on Jihad Campbell last year, let's 742 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: pass again on a the best player in Matt Miller's board. 743 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: What a shock that would be. That's fun though, right 744 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: November nineteen wouldn't be a shock at all. 745 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 12: But if Duke Tobin thinks she's had some bad days 746 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 12: on this station over the last couple of weeks, Oh hell, 747 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 12: hath no fury like me? If that happened, Downs is 748 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 12: passed for Kendri. If I'm on the air the night 749 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 12: of the draft, oh God help me. If I'm still here. 750 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 12: If I'm on the air the night of April or 751 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 12: the day after, God help Duke Tobin. If that's the case, Yep, 752 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 12: hell hath no fury like an Audie scorn, like audio unchanged. 753 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: I saw that this morning. My goodness. Let's uh, let's 754 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: marinate with that for a second. We'll take a break. 755 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: You'll call her in a hour two when we get 756 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: back on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 757 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN 758 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 759 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 2: Since He three sixty. 760 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 14: Continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's Sports station. 761 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Since he three sixty, It's ESPN fifteen thirty, 762 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at since He's shirts, 763 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: we have not looked ahead at all to what's coming 764 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: up this weekend or even now this week from a 765 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: college football and NFL standpoint. We've got a couple minutes 766 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: here before we switch gears to college basketball. We do 767 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: get the return of macshin this evening. Austin Miami of 768 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: Ohio is at Buffalo. Okay, Miami's going through it a 769 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 2: little bit right now. Mos NFL player to come out 770 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: of Buffalo U khlul Mark. Yeah, d Kwon Finn. Did 771 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: you have you followed along with this? 772 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 12: I don't know much about him. I saw he was 773 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 12: focusing on the NFL, and then I saw his stats, 774 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 12: and then I laughed out loud. 775 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, seventh year guy Da Kwan Finn is no longer 776 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: with Miami. He was a big get from Toledo town. 777 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: How many years? Seven years? Oh my lord? So in 778 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: year seven he's like, you know what, I'm just gonna 779 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: step away from the team and go focus on the NFL. 780 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 12: I think the interest from NFL teams between myself and 781 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 12: Da Kwan Finn is not that different. 782 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Started at Baylor, went to Toledo, finished at Miami. 783 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: Seven year player, three teams has left the program. He's 784 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: left the building to begin preparing for the NFL. Aka 785 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: to me, and I don't have inside info, that would 786 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: mean he probably quit on the team. It would seem 787 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: that way back. Why else would you leave the team 788 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: in the middle of the year. Yeah, because things aren't 789 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 2: going your way. 790 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 12: By the way, I just saw a picture that You've 791 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 12: talked about this a lot, Joe Burrow being able to 792 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 12: push off with that left foot from under center. Yeah, 793 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 12: Kelsey Conway just posted a picture of him doing exactly that. Okay, 794 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 12: working with Ted Carriss on the quarterback center exchange and 795 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 12: Burrow of course starting eleven on eleven work today. I 796 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 12: just think that's notable. I mean, obviously just get the 797 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 12: ball and turned around, that's yeah. And walk through type speed, 798 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 12: that's one thing. 799 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the the initial explosion I think is 800 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: going to be interesting. Is that something? Because explain this 801 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: to me. 802 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 12: I see some quarterbacks kind of have their left foot back, 803 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 12: some quarterbacks have their right foot back. 804 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: Is there a science behind that? So ideally you want 805 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: you want to be as even as possible. But the 806 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 2: main thing is you want to avoid a false step 807 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 2: with your left foot as you're turning away from the center. 808 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 2: That false step you got the center being pushed back. 809 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: You've got guards that are pulling at times. I can't 810 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 2: I couldn't count the times I've been stepped on pulling 811 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: away from under center, right, And that's got to be 812 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: a worry too, yes, And that's a huge worry about 813 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 2: anything under center. So for me, it was easier to 814 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: put my left foot a little further up when I 815 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: was under center, because if your left foot is further up, 816 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 2: you would be less opposed to picking that foot up 817 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: and moving it more forward. You know what I mean. 818 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: If my right foot's up, I'm almost just swapping out. 819 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 2: So if my left foot's forward, now I'm just taking 820 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: it and I'm pushing straight back as quick as i 821 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: can to get away from the center. So that to me, again, 822 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: that has to be quick and violent like when we 823 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: were always taught, like with our drops, that first step 824 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 2: has to be fast and huge, and then your next 825 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 2: couple of steps you're just kind of getting your balance back. 826 00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: But you've got to create a large, large amount of 827 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: separation in that first step. And is that like quarterback 828 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: preference on the step about your foot was more comfortable. 829 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: But again the main thing is you, however you do it, 830 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: you got to avoid a false step because then you're 831 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: stepping closer to the center, and if you've got a 832 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: noseguard that's pushing at all, all of a sudden, Ted 833 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: Carris is now stepping on that left foot. No no, no, no, 834 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: no no. You see all the time when quarterbacks fall 835 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: who fell earlier in the year and they scored a 836 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 2: touchdown off it Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, that like, 837 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: that's just the guard is pulling, you get stepped on. 838 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: It just creates a bad scenario. Interesting, real quick, it 839 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: is a do we call this the bye week in 840 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 2: college football? For the most part, not a ton of 841 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: marquee games. I mean that the top teams Texas, A 842 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 2: and M is playing Sandford, Ohio State has Rutgers, Missouri 843 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: Oahomer all right, fighting for ball eligibility. All right, let's 844 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: get Todd Fraser on the show. Yeah, what's do Let's 845 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 2: call him. I think I saw thirty three and a half, 846 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: thirty one and a half, Okay, and that's with Smith 847 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: and Tate. Yeah, questionable, that's yep, yep. I'm sure the 848 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: Ohio State in Michigan and Indiana are not pleased with 849 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: the rest of the conference, which has been a running 850 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: joke for a while. With that conference. There is only 851 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: one other top twenty five matchup this weekend outside of 852 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 2: Missouri and Oklahoma. That would be usc is traveling to 853 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: Autson Stadium to take on Oregon. So you get that 854 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: outside of it, Georgia is gonna take on one and 855 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: nine Charlotte. That spread his forty three and a half 856 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: game for the forty nine ers. Notre Dame host Syracuse, 857 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt takes on Kentucky. What's Syracuse's record? Three and seven? 858 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: I was a believer in Fran Brown. Yeah, it hasn't 859 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: worked out well. 860 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 12: I remember exchanging texts with Dan Horde about Fran Brown 861 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 12: in the future of Syracuse football. Okay, well, I haven't 862 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 12: heard much Dan about that lately. 863 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 2: Does the NFL slate get any better? Steelers Bears, the 864 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 2: fate of Aaron Rodgers still up a good game, especially 865 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 2: if Rodgers plays. I think Tomorrow night's sneaky good with 866 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: the Texans getting to five and five. 867 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, CJ. Stroud not gonna play, not gonna play it. 868 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 12: And I keep seeing the clips of that concussion. That's 869 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 12: just a gnarly concussion, Davis Mills. But that Texas Houston 870 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 12: Texans front seven is nasty, dude. They create problems on 871 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 12: opposing team's offenses. So, uh yeah, I think that might 872 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 12: be a sneaky good game. 873 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 2: Lions cannot lose a step against the Giants because the 874 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: Lions are out of the playoffs right now. Looking in Packers, Vikings, Seahawks, Titans, Colts, Chiefs, 875 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 2: Colts Chiefs would be a good one. Coat's coming off 876 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 2: a bye Chiefs. Also on the outside looking in, the 877 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 2: Jets take on the Baltimore Ravens, Browns Raiders. That's a 878 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: terrible game. 879 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 12: Flex that to Sunday Night with Shadaddy out there, Eagles, Cowboys, 880 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 12: Time Time. 881 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 2: Bucks, Rams, Sunday Night, come in. I like the Monday 882 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 2: night game Panthers Hopkins. Yeah for Panthers Niners six and five. 883 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 12: But I think that's a sneaky good game right there 884 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 12: for Carolina Dave Dallas, I'm a big. 885 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: Fan of his. Rico Uncle Rico. Yeah, that Sunday night 886 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: game is gonna be electric. All right, let's take a break. 887 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: Let's come back. College basketball last night locally not good 888 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: for the Kentucky Wildcats. We'll discuss that and a big 889 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: bounce back win for Richard Patino and Xavier We'll get 890 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: to both of those. Pat Kelsey in an interview he 891 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: did with Lance, We got a couple of minutes of that, 892 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: and we'll talk some Cincinnati cancer advisors as well. All 893 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 2: on our number three Sincy three to sixty, ESPN fifteen 894 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Day